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Friday, June 22nd, 2012, 00:03 UTC

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skd5aner:

Sharky112065: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0. . . . site_Changes

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Aval0n:

Hello.

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Aval0n:

Does Mythtv support the Ceton Infinitv4 fully now?

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Aval0n:

even for non copy freely channels?

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sphery:

MythTV can never support non-copy-freely channels

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RagingMind:

Aval0n, it's not ever gonna support channels that are't copy-freely

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sphery:

you can't do DRM in F/LOSS

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sphery:

(otherwise, people could just patch it out)

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Aval0n:

Thanks.

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Aval0n:

Guess I'm stuck with media center

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sphery:

or HD-PVR + STB

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Aval0n:

yeah..

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sphery:

or--and this is really thinking out of the box--vote with your wallet and drop cable since they won't let you use their service the way you want

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** sphery has no cable and spends far less buying DVDs of the cable-only shows he likes than he would spend on a cable sub **

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Aval0n:

Yeah, then I'm back to STB again

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sphery:

granted, if you do cable for a sports or news network, then you're kind of stuck with STB + HD-PVR

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wagnerrp:

Aval0n: who is your cable provider?

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Aval0n:

cox

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Aval0n:

and I kinda of already have a STB due to the tuning resolver

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sphery:

are most of your channels copy-never?

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Aval0n:

it's mixed

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sphery:

(or copy once)

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Aval0n:

some of the higher content channels are copy never

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sphery:

just curious

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sphery:

hadn't heard much about cox's policies

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Aval0n:

yeah

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Aval0n:

at least I got down to 1 STB now

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Aval0n:

err tuning resolver

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Aval0n:

I used to have to have two

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Aval0n:

since they only supported two tuners at a time back then

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Aval0n:

CISCO released a fw update that allowed up to 4 tuners.

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Aval0n:

so I was able to ditch one

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Aval0n:

Overall it's a pretty good system

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Aval0n:

but I get MS sounds when I navigate

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Aval0n:

and I loathe them

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wagnerrp:

replace the sound files with empty wavs

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Aval0n:

If I am going to be stuck to winbloze I'de at least prefer to be XBMC or media portal

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sphery:

can't disable them--they don't have settings or themes for that?

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Aval0n:

they are embedded

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Aval0n:

not just .wavs somewhere

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Aval0n:

ehres.dll

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Aval0n:

in there

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wagnerrp:

use one of those resource editor applications

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Aval0n:

I've tried :)

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Aval0n:

it borks it

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wagnerrp:

probably breaks some checksum

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Aval0n:

yeah

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wagnerrp:

something intended to protect the content from you

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wagnerrp:

ain't DRM grand?

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Aval0n:

gotta love DRM

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sphery:

after all, the most dangerous individual to a vendor is, in fact, the customer!

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Aval0n:

yup

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Aval0n:

ahh well I was hoping to give Myth another go

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sphery:

thanks for making me happy that I don't have to worry about that

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Aval0n:

but I figured DRM would still be the hold up

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Aval0n:

M$ has the whole digital cable advisor and playready

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Aval0n:

you're welcome :)

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sphery:

and, yeah, it's too bad, but it will always be impossible to use copy-once and copy-never on "open" GNU/Linux systems

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wagnerrp:

we would love to be of more use for copy protected content

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wagnerrp:

but its just simply not in the realm of possibility

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Aval0n:

yeah

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sphery:

(versus TiVo or other closed systems--where "impossible" = even if someone hacked it, it would be a federal felony offense)

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Aval0n:

right

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wagnerrp:

as sphery indicated, DRM and open source are ideologically opposed

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Aval0n:

Yeah

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Aval0n:

so get this

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wagnerrp:

they cant mix

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Aval0n:

I have a new mobo/RAM/CPU

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Aval0n:

read for my media center

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Aval0n:

but I have been lazy about doing it

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Aval0n:

because all my recorded shows

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wagnerrp:

and you lost access to all your content

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Aval0n:

will bork

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Aval0n:

lol

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Aval0n:

yeah

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sphery:

ah, yeah... gotta love that

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Aval0n:

gotta get through the shows first

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wagnerrp:

there are complaints on the silicon dust forums about such things

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wagnerrp:

its recognizes itself as a different machine

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sphery:

which will be hard for you to do when you keep recording more

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Aval0n:

indeed

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sphery:

(especially with olympics and tour de france coming up!)

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Aval0n:

:D

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Aval0n:

hoping to have it done before that

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wagnerrp:

and thus shuts everything in an attempt to prevent you from migrating the content to unauthorized hardware

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Aval0n:

the infinitv4 is a great product though

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wagnerrp:

dont the internal hard drives in the xbox do the same thing?

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Aval0n:

too bad it's limited with DRM

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wagnerrp:

you cannot move it to another unit?

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Aval0n:

you have to hack them

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Aval0n:

unclock/re-sign

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Aval0n:

unlock&

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sphery:

yeah, and for a better answer to your question, it's fully usable for copy-freely channels with MythTV, but not the final/proper implementation

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sphery:

(the final implementation is in the works, but we have a shortcut in there for now)

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Aval0n:

cool

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wagnerrp:

the current implementation is a direct implementation of ceton's custom interface

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sphery:

but even after the change, it will look pretty much identical to the user

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wagnerrp:

the final implementation will be a generic OCUR implementation, and will be compatible with infinitv gear, hdhomeruns, dcr-2650s, and anything else that speaks OCUR

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Aval0n:

who do you guys use for providers?

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wagnerrp:

currently, insight

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Aval0n:

STB?

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sphery:

for me, OTA

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wagnerrp:

nah, just cheesy mini-boxes

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Aval0n:

I see

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Aval0n:

I guess I could get a dish STB

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Aval0n:

and demand one with firewire

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wagnerrp:

hoping to move to fios, if they ever get around to pulling that fiber the last 500ft down my street

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wagnerrp:

no such thing

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sphery:

dish doesn't have any firewire ones

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sphery:

dish means HD-PVR

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Aval0n:

I thought fcc mandated firewal availability

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Aval0n:

firewire*

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sphery:

that was only for cable cos

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wagnerrp:

satellite was never restricted by those FCC firewire rules like cable carriers

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Aval0n:

jeebus

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sphery:

because, of course, satellite and cable aren't competing

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sphery:

only dish and directv compete with each other

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wagnerrp:

cable and cable aren't competing

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sphery:

and cable cos compete with each other

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Aval0n:

directtv have firewire?

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wagnerrp:

everyone has a local monopoly

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Aval0n:

directv*

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sphery:

no firewire for directv, either

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Aval0n:

uhg

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sphery:

I think they used to have a few boxes that supported firewire for channel change, but even that's gone

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Aval0n:

lame

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wagnerrp:

no firewire, only serial over usb

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Aval0n:

HD-PVR is just RGB correct?

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Aval0n:

component

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wagnerrp:

component != rgb

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Aval0n:

yeah

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Aval0n:

that's why I corrected

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Aval0n:

:P

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Aval0n:

I see it has hdmi too

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wagnerrp:

nope, only component (and composite and svideo)

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Aval0n:

you have people in here happy with their STB and HD-PVR setups?

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Aval0n:

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&a . . . 83&ty=34

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Aval0n:

wow sorry for the long link

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Aval0n:

that one is expensive though

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wagnerrp:

i love the long links, never stop

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Aval0n:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

when people talk about the HDPVR, they specifically mean the hauppauge HDPVR

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Aval0n:

Oh yeah

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wagnerrp:

long links mean i can actually tell where im going

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Aval0n:

I recotgnize that

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Aval0n:

recognise

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wagnerrp:

although technically there, its some other website routed through google

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Aval0n:

;)

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wagnerrp:

still, better than some tiny url that is just as likely to send me to some goatse image, spinning and bouncing around my screen, to the music stylings of rick astley

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Aval0n:

haha

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wagnerrp:

in any case, HDMI is worthless to us

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Aval0n:

I used to know a url for a 'GPS tracking by phone number' site.

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wagnerrp:

HDCP this time.... DRM rearing its ugly head once more

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Aval0n:

we told our co-worker you could find out where his wife was based on it's GPS locator.

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Aval0n:

so he put in the number

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Aval0n:

and because of the prefix and area code it zoomed in from space into his local city.

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Aval0n:

'WOW! It's really working'

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Aval0n:

and as soon as it got close enough

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Aval0n:

*BOOM* meatspin

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wagnerrp:

meatspin.... dont think ive had the displeasure of seeing that one

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Aval0n:

well

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Aval0n:

do to your spinning and 'in the style of rick astly'

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Aval0n:

I thought you did

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Aval0n:

it's basically 2 men

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Aval0n:

reverse cowboy

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Aval0n:

as the top one bounces up and down while being penatrated, his penis spins in circles while the song... you spin me right round plays.

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Aval0n:

I recognise that's not Rick Astley but same style. :)

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wagnerrp:

yeah, a decade ago we had "worksucks"

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Aval0n:

hmm..

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Aval0n:

not familiar

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wagnerrp:

just a simple javascript application that opened up nine windows of goatse in a 3x3 grid

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wagnerrp:

and did that in a loop, 500 times

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Aval0n:

oh

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Aval0n:

haha

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Aval0n:

woooops

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wagnerrp:

and did that while blaring "hey everybody, im looking at gay porno"

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Aval0n:

ahh you've just rung the bell

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Aval0n:

I have infact witnessed this

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Aval0n:

to this day I don't think I have seen anything worse that 1 man 1 cup

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wagnerrp:

and you know those physicists, know how to use computers, but know f--- all about actually administering them

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wagnerrp:

so we have these physics labs for physics 101

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wagnerrp:

and were using these computers, ancient P3s or some such, internal speaker, no physical volume control of any sort, no real computer security

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wagnerrp:

no one thinks to disable 'net send'

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wagnerrp:

so you can flood messages to these things from anywhere on campus

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wagnerrp:

so of course several people found it amusing to tell people to go to said web site

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wagnerrp:

and after the second pass through the loop or so, those old pentiums were wasted

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wagnerrp:

blaring this lo-fi audio recording, and absolutely no control to hit that volume control on the task bar

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Aval0n:

haha

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wagnerrp:

you had no choice but to power cycle the thing

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wagnerrp:

and lose all your current tabulated data for that lab

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Aval0n:

damn

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Aval0n:

I bet ppl were pissed

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Aval0n:

I used to fork bomb some workstations at my old school

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Aval0n:

people had no idea wtf was happening

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Aval0n:

but that's not nearly as exciting

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Aval0n:

thanks for the chat

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Aval0n:

ttyl

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Gumby:

Hi all. if I have two dvb-s tuners in a system that share the same sources and I set card 1 to have a livetvorder=10 and schedorder=1 and card 2 is set to livetvorder=1 and schedorder=10 then livetv should always try card 2 first and scheduled recordings should try to use card 1 first, is this correct?

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Gumby:

hrm, when I left tonight I was watching livetv, I didnt want to miss the end of that show so I pressed record on the remote and then checked to see if the event was being recorded in both mythfrontend and also mythweb, it was.. no problems.

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Gumby:

now I get home and want to watch the end of the show and it is no where to be found, what settings might effect this behaviour

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Gumby:

man, what a piss off

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sphery:

Gumby: check the live tv recording group--may not have been properly grouped

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sphery:

though there are rumors that when you exit live tv after hitting record, it stops

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Jordack:

hmmm. In MythWeb when I click on TV I get this "{"VideoLookupList": {"Count": "0", "AsOf": "", "Version": "", "ProtoVer": "", "VideoLookups": []}}" Just started yesterday. rebooted teh box today and still get it. Any thoughts?

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brfransen:

devinheitmueller: Saw your post about the 950q power analysis. Are any of the issues you are chasing down related to analog not working in myth .25?

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devinheitmueller:

brfransen: some of these are reliability issues with analog, but not the issue with the referencing counting on the video device. Debugging that would require me to get a MythTV box setup.

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devinheitmueller:

The reference count problem is almost certainly some API misuse that MythTV is doing which is being handled by other drivers but causes the au0828 to crap out.

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devinheitmueller:

Unfortunately, debugging the issue would require me to setup a new box with a recent MythTV build.

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devinheitmueller:

(which is a PITA)

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brfransen:

so it is a bug in the driver and not Myth?

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devinheitmueller:

It's probably two bugs – MythTV misusing some API call, and the driver not having good enough exception handling.

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devinheitmueller:

That's obviously speculation though until the cause of the problem is actually identified.

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devinheitmueller:

lunch. bbiab.

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Sharky112065:

Anyone know what version of libfftw3 is required for Mythtv 0.25 fixes? I have libfftw3–3 ver 3.2–1 and libfftw3-dev 3.2.2–1 on Debian Squeeze. Configure shows no for libfftw support.

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Sharky112065:

libcec is updated now on deb-multimedia.org debian-backpoets

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daniel1:

howdy

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daniel1:

Having an issue performing a channel scan with mythtv-setup on an arch box with a hauppauge 950q. I'm getting a seg fault every time.

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daniel1:

I have an strace if anyone can help

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Gumby:

sphery: thx for the response earlier. Just heading to work but I'll check that out. I have the scenario you mentioned re: exiting and livetv stops recording before. Any idea why that may happen and a possible solution? (I'll check for an answer when I get home)

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daniel1:

here is my strace (sorry for 3 links, i dont have pastebin pro): pastebin.com/zmuTCBmk pastebin.com/b4h3SX52 pastebin.com/vPuGBzcV

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devinheitmueller:

daniel1: any errors in the dmesg output when the segfault occurs?

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wagnerrp:

daniel1: this is a digital channel scan?

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smoothifier:

is it possible to, say, run a vm, compile mythtv in it, and transfer the information to the other machine? or is that a strange idea?

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wagnerrp:

as long as the VM runs a sufficiently similar environment that the dynamically linked code can find the necessary libraries on the other machine

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wagnerrp:

but why would you want to?

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wagnerrp:

running a VM wouldn't be of any advantage in that scenario

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smoothifier:

well, i haven't played much with virtual machines. it would be more of an exercise, i guess

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smoothifier:

actually, getting mythtv to compile seems daunting enough

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wagnerrp:

getting mythtv to compile is fairly simple, assuming your distro provides a sane development environment

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smoothifier:

well, i'm running fedora so I suppose it's fairly sane

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wagnerrp:

i dont consider any distro that requires you install a whole crapload of "-dev" packages to be "sane"

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smoothifier:

it looks like i'd have to install about 20

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smoothifier:

i don't use atrpms so i wouldn't get into a dependency battle

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Sharky112065:

Its certainly not easy. Ive been trying to get it compiled on Debian Squeeze. It compiles fine, but getting the no's on configure to be yes's is a bit of a pain

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wagnerrp:

theres no purpose to requiring any, unless youre trying to stuff things onto a livecd or something

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smoothifier:

haha well i'm far away from that

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wagnerrp:

i mean all you're doing is saving a bit of disk space for those ascii header files

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Sharky112065:

for example libfftw version 3.2.2–1 is what comes with debian squeeze but aparantly mythtv needs a newer version. What version I do not know as I can find no valid list of dependancy versions for mythtv

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Sharky112065:

at least for 0.25 fixes anyway

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smoothifier:

yeah, i've had trouble with libraries before in big compiles. it's why i've left it up to package maintainers to this point

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Sharky112065:

If I leave it up to package maintainers I will not get Mythtv going.

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smoothifier:

i think my package is from around may 6th.

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Sharky112065:

I think 0.25 was released way too soon. Most of the documentaton is still 0.24

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wagnerrp:

our documentation is always lagging

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wagnerrp:

feel free to update things on the wiki

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Sharky112065:

I have no problem helping out on that once I ever get it up and running.

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Sharky112065:

but some basic documetation on dep version requirements would be nice

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Sharky112065:

someone gave me this, but it is not accurate

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Sharky112065:

https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/blob/mast . . . bian/control

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daniel1:

devinheitmueller: here's my dmesg output. as you'll see, it does give me a message pertaining to the mythtv-setup segfault, seems to be an error in libmythtv? www.pastebin.com/4CDRJbwk

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daniel1:

wagnerrp: no, i'm only attempting to do an analog scan

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wagnerrp:

you shouldnt be doing analog scans

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wagnerrp:

pull a lineup from schedules direct

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wagnerrp:

and as far as many of us in this channel are concerned, you shouldnt be using that device for analog anyway

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daniel1:

i don't mind using it for digital, i'm just trying to get it working and it seemed to be using analog fine with tvtime

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wagnerrp:

tvtime and mythtv operate in very different manners

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wagnerrp:

tvtime just copies the raw frames right out of the capture device and right into the graphics card

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wagnerrp:

"framegrabbers" are ideal for use in that manner, and in fact tvtime can only work with framegrabbers

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wagnerrp:

mythtv must compress and store everything to disk, before reading it back off the disk and sending to the frontend

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wagnerrp:

so it makes more sense for tuners to have hardware compressors

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devinheitmueller:

daniel1: the dmesg doesn't show a driver issue (there's a problem people are seeing with regards to the driver's reference counting for the file handle, but there is no sign of that in your dmesg output).

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wagnerrp:

can you try to get a traceback for this segfault?

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daniel1:

sorry im not an expert. does that meen i need to run mythtv-setup in gdb and then use bt?

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daniel1:

mean*

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wagnerrp:

thats one option

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wagnerrp:

depending on your system setup, segfaults will produce a core dump

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wagnerrp:

and that core dump can be loaded into gdb after the fact to get a backtrace

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daniel1:

okay. i'm on a fully updated arch linux box if that gives you any idea. i'll try using bt though

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ViperSBT:

Hey guys, is there a Nvidia VPDAU capable AGP 8X card out there?

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ViperSBT:

What would be a good AGP 8X card for HD?

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daniel1:

okay, here's my output from gdb: www.pastebin.com/B2Bk2Yuf

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Sharky112065:

Only newegg card is 6200 and not VPDAU .. for 8x AGP

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Sharky112065:

so probably not

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ViperSBT:

Yeah, it looks like AGP and VDPAU are not going to happen...

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ViperSBT:

The MOBO the ATI card that I had in this box, just can't cut HD... So I need something that will... Any suggestions?

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Sharky112065:

swap out your MB

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ViperSBT:

So, there aren't any AGP cards that will handle HD?

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Sharky112065:

ViperSBT: that I do not know. Im guessing not

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ViperSBT:

Just trying to tunr this in to a F/E I guess I just need to go on the hunt for AGP cards...

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ViperSBT:

Is there a particular spec to be looking for in a grpahics card? More memory = better?

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wagnerrp:

there are plenty of AGP cards that will handle HD

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wagnerrp:

there are no AGP cards mythtv can use for hardware decoding of video

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wagnerrp:

of course if you're still using a 6yr old AGP system, it might be time to consider upgrading

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wagnerrp:

8yr?

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ViperSBT:

That is why I was decommissioning this to a F/E only

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wagnerrp:

some destop i built in late 2005 was PCIe

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ViperSBT:

Then it may be easier to find a MB that will use the same processor, memory, etc. that will have PCIe on it...

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wagnerrp:

not likely

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wagnerrp:

socket a? DDR 1?

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ViperSBT:

Argghhh

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wagnerrp:

or one of the early 754s?

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wagnerrp:

im not sure if anyone ever made 939s with AGP

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ViperSBT:

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K9MM-V.html

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wagnerrp:

wow, an AM2 with AGP

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wagnerrp:

one really has to question why

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wagnerrp:

well youll have better luck with AM2

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daniel1:

wagnerrp, i'm using scheduledirect atm, running mythfilldatabse

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daniel1:

we'll see how this goes

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wagnerrp:

daniel1: you pulled a lineup in mythtv-setup?

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daniel1:

yeah i put in my username/password then fetched channels from listing and it updated my starting channel to 1

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daniel1:

then asked me to run mythfilldatabse when i exited

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ViperSBT:

Thanks for the help and giving me some ideas...

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daniel1:

seems to be hanging but i'll give it some time

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wagnerrp:

daniel1: it will take some time

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wagnerrp:

it may take a whole lot of time depending on your database configuration

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wagnerrp:

if you get a chance at some point, it would still be worthwhile to open a ticket with that backtrace

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daniel1:

i've just been using wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MythTV to set this up

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daniel1:

okay, i'll look into that while i wait

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Sharky112065:

Anyone know what version of libfftw3 is required for Mythtv 0.25 fixes? I have libfftw3–3 ver 3.2–1 and libfftw3-dev 3.2.2–1 on Debian Squeeze. Configure shows no for libfftw support. configure is looking in the file fftw3.h for fftw_init_threads. The new version on the fftw website (fftw 3.3.2) has fftw_init_threads, but it is in the file fftw3.f03.

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[R]:

fftw3.f03 for a header makes absoutely no sense

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Sharky112065:

I understand, but that is where it is. found by using grep for all files

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wagnerrp:

fortran?

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wagnerrp:

was there a 2003 language revision of fortran?

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wagnerrp:

i know there was one in 95

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Sharky112065:

hmm. maybe im building it wrong. ill uninstall and do a disclean and look at the configure options for it.

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Sharky112065:

disclean = distclean

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[R]:

why do you need the fftw dep anyway?

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Sharky112065:

Sont know that I do. I just dont like seeing no next to options on configure output :p

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[R]:

rofl

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[R]:

are you going to use mythmusic?

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Sharky112065:

probably

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[R]:

well its for some stupid visualizers for that

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[R]:

otherwise

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[R]:

it serves no purpose

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[R]:

you will survive without it

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Sharky112065:

Ok, guess ill let it go then.

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Sharky112065:

do I need crystalHD?

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[R]:

do you have a crystalhd device?

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Sharky112065:

I have nvidia

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Sharky112065:

so guess not

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[R]:

it has nothign to do with nvidia

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Sharky112065:

Its under video output support so I was guessing it had to do with what kind of video card I have?

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RagingMind:

Sharky112065, it's a separate add in card that'll do video decoding, but it's not a video output card like an nvidia/ati would be

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Sharky112065:

RagingMind: Ah ok, thanks. I do not need it then

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Sharky112065:

The last thing that has a no on configure is under Misc Features. ==> OpenGL ES 2.0 do I need that?

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RagingMind:

OpenGL ES is generally for embedded systems, like tablets/phones

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Sharky112065:

RagingMind: OK thanks then guess im good to go for another make.

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MylesMan:

he, can I use mythtv to rcord my ps3?

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Sharky112065:

OK, mythtv compiled ok. 5 min 24 sec. off to install woot

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wagnerrp:

sphery: article on slashdot in response to linus's rant.... xbmc devs complaining about AMD graphics support

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Sharky112065:

need some help with the following...

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Sharky112065:

mike@server1:~/src/mythtv/mythtv/mythtv/database$ mysql < mc.sql

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Sharky112065:

ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mike'@'localhost' (using password: NO)

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Sharky112065:

I tried as root also.

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Sharky112065:

Ok it worked with mysql -u root -pmyrootpassword < mc.sql

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