| Wednesday, June 13th, 2012, 00:05 UTC | ||
| [00:05:15] | Twiggy2cents: | arg wagnerrp will reindexing fix audio sync? |
| [00:05:41] | Twiggy2cents: | This trouble dvd now plays and has the correct times from tsmuxer but the audio is off by ~330ms |
| [00:06:19] | wagnerrp: | the whole video is off by 330ms? |
| [00:06:37] | wagnerrp: | often times, the audio and video is stored on those things with an offset |
| [00:06:47] | wagnerrp: | which you have to make sure to carry forward when reprocessing |
| [00:06:53] | wagnerrp: | 330ms is not unreasonable |
| [00:08:29] | Twiggy2cents: | So 1/3 of a second off is reasonable? |
| [00:08:57] | Twiggy2cents: | I only did a section of the video |
| [00:09:01] | wagnerrp: | ive seen movies with stored offsets that large |
| [00:09:21] | wagnerrp: | however it really is a value stored in the PS container |
| [00:09:29] | Twiggy2cents: | On a side note, what would make the playback slow for a second or two after a large skip? |
| [00:09:51] | Twiggy2cents: | Separate fe/be |
| [00:09:56] | wagnerrp: | and often times, when you feed the VOB into some other editing program, it will read that offset, and automatically know to maintain it during further processing |
| [00:10:29] | wagnerrp: | not sure |
| [00:10:44] | Twiggy2cents: | Well it is a movie we wont watch very often, I think that I will just live with it and adjust the audio sync |
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| [00:11:56] | Twiggy2cents: | It is 100mb connection. The audio plays so I am guessing I am seeing it drop frames to catch up |
| [00:13:00] | Twiggy2cents: | The network has little load on it, I see if after skipping a commercial or jumping forward/backward |
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| [01:13:39] | rumblebumble: | Has anyone had any experience with yellow usb 2.0 port (high current) and an hd-pvr |
| [01:15:35] | rumblebumble: | The hd-pvr intermittently connects with mythtv |
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| [03:39:14] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: it depends. over here you get all the public channels plus some private ones http://www.lyngsat.com/hd/Astra-1H-1KR-1L-1M-2C.html Obviously Astra is trying to shove down their HD+ DRM scheme down your throat which some private stations do like. (they ruined their own market by going 100% ad supported and now want more money then people are willing to pay. so they need to perform some tricks) |
| [03:39:14] | dekarl: | Which means you get the big private stations in SD only but all public stations and the smaller private ones in HD. If you move over to austria/switzerland its different as the smaller german countries have to encrypt (CI without +/DRM) because they pay way less licenses for the content and they run the same dubbed shows as the big private stations from german on their public stations which would canibalize the private stations market share |
| [03:40:00] | dekarl: | s/german countries/german speaking countries/ |
| [03:43:17] | dekarl: | looks like UK went FTA, too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freesat#Move_to_free-to-air |
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| [03:50:45] | knightr__: | .0 |
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| [03:56:46] | dekarl: | so yes, DVB-S2 without CI/CI+ is useful. But DVB-S2 with CI (no plus) and an austrian card is way more useful as you get what you are used to, but without ad breaks. Obviously thats only legal for the 1 million austrian satelite users. With DVB-S2 and CI+ (DRM) I have no idea if the offer already is differentiating between actual usage of DRM so open source can at least get the "copy freely" channels. Nor do I know what DRM flags the statio |
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| [04:05:44] | wagnerrp: | ah, i had forgotten all about freesat |
| [04:06:11] | dekarl: | a quick google run hints that everbody just breaks their DRM in various more or less legal ways. Which I do understand as people got used to "everything for free" from the tv stations in the last 30 years. |
| [04:06:43] | dekarl: | ^- usually less... |
| [04:08:41] | wagnerrp: | i would expect for every user doing it for legitimate (if not legal) reasons, there are at least ten more doing it to bypass a subscription |
| [04:09:30] | dekarl: | of course. thats the whole point of the HD+ stuff. to get people used to subscriptions which is uncommon over here and hard to get market share with |
| [04:09:51] | wagnerrp: | and to be honest, i wonder how many people are using css/aacs/bd+ strippers to copy movie rentals |
| [04:09:54] | dekarl: | they advertise with "hook them with prepaid subscriptions that come with the new tv" and stuff |
| [04:10:10] | wagnerrp: | especially considering im on the opposite side of that equation on that one |
| [04:10:30] | dekarl: | the companies themselves ruined their market and now are trying for the Nth time to establish pay tv in germany... |
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| [04:11:24] | dekarl: | the only ones that get some sales are newcomers like the telcos that at least ship "works for grandma" sealed devices. |
| [04:11:41] | wagnerrp: | theres this James Anderson that just signed up for the wiki, and its really troubling |
| [04:11:53] | wagnerrp: | i cant decide if the website the email is tied to is malicious |
| [04:11:59] | wagnerrp: | or just a general waste of internet space |
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| [04:12:27] | wagnerrp: | 1retirementplan dot com |
| [04:12:45] | dekarl: | and its 13 letters in James Anderson ? |
| [04:13:02] | wagnerrp: | 14 including the space |
| [04:13:35] | wagnerrp: | amusingly, it actually tripped one of the "selects" i set up months back for a polish spammer that always had 14 characters |
| [04:13:48] | dekarl: | Ahh ok, I vaguely remembered a schema where spambots used account names with N letters all the time |
| [04:14:01] | wagnerrp: | (length(user_name) = 14) as Y |
| [04:14:48] | wagnerrp: | its almost certainly crap, since the email account is jane4565, for a james |
| [04:15:01] | wagnerrp: | but you never know... maybe an "operation" was part of the retirement plan |
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| [04:15:22] | Valen: | quick question, I had a SSD floating about so i had the idea of making / the SSD and leaving all the recordings on spinning disks that can then be spun down. All works fairly well but when browsing recordings all the disks wind up spinning up to show the preview images. Is there a way (perhaps a storage group) to tell myth where to put the preview images so i can keep them on the SSD? My google fu seems to be lacking the close |
| [04:15:38] | Valen: | at the moment my best idea (which is bad) is to make a 1gb partition on the SSD add it to the recording groups then sweep through the recordings directories and move all the images into it |
| [04:15:45] | Valen: | but that just feels *really* nasty |
| [04:16:34] | wagnerrp: | not currently, no |
| [04:17:01] | wagnerrp: | previews must be in the same folder as the recording |
| [04:17:20] | wagnerrp: | of course thats really something we should do... |
| [04:17:28] | wagnerrp: | no reason why it would even be very difficult |
| [04:17:31] | Valen: | thats unfortunate lol |
| [04:17:50] | Valen: | that is fortunate |
| [04:18:41] | dekarl: | Which reminds me that xmltv config files and channel icons are not written to a SG either. |
| [04:18:48] | wagnerrp: | you could potentially wrap mythpreviewgen with some script that takes the generated images, moves them into some other folder, and symlinks back to them |
| [04:19:15] | Valen: | it'd probably still spin up the drive to read the symlink though |
| [04:19:22] | wagnerrp: | although im not sure if symlinks would be cached any longer than other files |
| [04:19:29] | wagnerrp: | right... |
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| [04:19:39] | knightr__: | \\\ |
| [04:19:48] | Valen: | which causes a pretty fair delay, though to myths credit, it doesn't lock the front end |
| [04:19:50] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: no reason for xmltv config files to exist anywhere other than the master backend |
| [04:20:02] | wagnerrp: | so there should be no need to put them in a SG |
| [04:20:13] | wagnerrp: | just leave then in the home directory |
| [04:20:20] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: I was thinking more in terms of which users home the MYTHCONFDIR was in... |
| [04:20:45] | wagnerrp: | channel icons are in a SG IIRC, just not a configurable one |
| [04:20:56] | wagnerrp: | anyone know if knightr has a cat? |
| [04:21:04] | dekarl: | running the backend with a backend user, but setup / MFDB with your frontend user makes for lots of setup fun |
| [04:21:33] | wagnerrp: | thats why setup and MFDB get run as your backend user |
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| [04:21:55] | dekarl: | thats a nice idea, but mythbuntu doesnt work like that :) |
| [04:21:58] | wagnerrp: | that's always been the proper usage |
| [04:22:20] | Valen: | how does myth get the preview, some other script or is it native? |
| [04:22:46] | wagnerrp: | it looks for an image file |
| [04:22:47] | Valen: | (as in how does the preview get back into myth) |
| [04:22:52] | wagnerrp: | if it doesnt find one, it calls mythpreviewgen |
| [04:23:01] | dekarl: | and the icons get stored in MYTHCONFDIR, too. which has a SG defined but they are stored as absolute local paths in the database. Adding the two user accounts makes for some fun there, too |
| [04:23:21] | wagnerrp: | right, forgot about that little issue.... |
| [04:23:49] | wagnerrp: | lots of independent solutions for similar problems that we need to clean up |
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| [04:25:15] | wagnerrp: | god damnit... |
| [04:25:20] | wagnerrp: | friggen urlgrabber |
| [04:25:29] | wagnerrp: | i swear ive removed that dependency about four times now |
| [04:25:35] | wagnerrp: | how does it keep slipping back in |
| [04:25:46] | dekarl: | I was thinking that MFDB could just get/put the xmltv config from the SG and put it in a temporary file, just like the xmltv output is put into a temp file. Need to look into that once I'm through with the UTC / lineup stuff |
| [04:25:48] | Valen: | fairies |
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| [04:28:18] | wagnerrp: | heh |
| [04:28:21] | dekarl: | looking at the code... icons seems to collide if the basename of the icon file is the same... like http://station1/logo.gif vs. http://station2/logo.gif |
| [04:28:42] | wagnerrp: | between the (multiple) ffmpeg sync(s) and the UTC migration, im still running several weeks old |
| [04:29:19] | Valen: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:More_B . . . N#Code_Fairy lol |
| [04:34:17] | wagnerrp: | well the code fairy is actually me |
| [04:34:29] | wagnerrp: | they're my fault, since im taking code from ja ms blindly |
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| [04:35:21] | wagnerrp: | except hes working off an upstream version of smolt, which makes sense as he writes it |
| [04:36:21] | wagnerrp: | which dont include my various changes that remove dependencies not needed since their are built in modules that take care of it, because those modules werent built in for antiquated versions of python running on old fedora/suse/whatever systems |
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| [04:37:13] | wagnerrp: | i need to get fallthrough behavior put in place, and try take some initiative to get that stuff pushed back upstream |
| [04:37:47] | wagnerrp: | or we just need to official diverge |
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| [05:04:17] | Valen: | so what do you think the chances of a preview image storage group springing into being are wagnerrp ;-> |
| [05:05:45] | wagnerrp: | better than average |
| [05:06:02] | ** wagnerrp pokes sphery ** | |
| [05:06:12] | wagnerrp: | thought for the recordedfile changes ^^^^ |
| [05:07:04] | Valen: | i'd offer to help but i'm a lowly python programmer |
| [05:10:36] | dekarl: | if you grok python and nice pictures for recordings, maybe you can take a peek at fanart.tv and come up with a grabber? (I don't grok Python :( |
| [05:10:38] | dekarl: | ^^ |
| [05:10:57] | wagnerrp: | mythtv grabber? |
| [05:11:05] | Valen: | might need to explain that one a little bit more |
| [05:12:02] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: do you know if we have a key? |
| [05:12:23] | dekarl: | our art grabbers are written in Python, fanart.tv has art that is referenced by the same primary keys as our existing metadata/art grabbers |
| [05:12:42] | Valen: | whats it for? |
| [05:12:46] | dekarl: | oh, they do require a key now... |
| [05:13:05] | dekarl: | valen, it would give theme creators some more image kinds to integrate into a nice GUI |
| [05:13:08] | wagnerrp: | if its a simple enough format, i could throw the tmdb3 framework at it and have a grabber banged out in an hour or two |
| [05:13:25] | Valen: | i mean at a lower level, what does it do lol |
| [05:13:37] | wagnerrp: | provides fanart through an API? |
| [05:14:19] | wagnerrp: | make that half hour or so |
| [05:14:25] | wagnerrp: | theres really no data here, just the artwork |
| [05:14:42] | dekarl: | its just pictures that follow a common convention wrt art style |
| [05:14:54] | wagnerrp: | would need to put together something to combine sources |
| [05:15:13] | wagnerrp: | or redesign the metadata framework within mythtv to accept multiple sources |
| [05:15:31] | wagnerrp: | the latter would probably be better in the long run |
| [05:15:53] | wagnerrp: | guess ill go register a key then |
| [05:15:57] | Valen: | it sounds like you like making work for yourself lol |
| [05:15:58] | dekarl: | aye, you hinted about a wrapper to extend the exisiting grabbers with more metadata when I was asking about it the last time... I've looked at Pyhton since then and failed :) |
| [05:16:34] | wagnerrp: | well i probably hinted that was the only way it could be interfaced with the current framework |
| [05:17:30] | dekarl: | yes. while I was thinking that it might make sense to extend the existing grabbers to grab data for the same key from the new site. (which is a work around, too. just the other way around) |
| [05:18:16] | wagnerrp: | something wrapping the existing tmdb[3].py grabbers, or hitting the respective libraries directly, and combining it with this data would be much faster in the short term |
| [05:18:25] | wagnerrp: | but it would still be better to allow multiple sources |
| [05:20:44] | wagnerrp: | how is "php" a supported format? |
| [05:21:12] | wagnerrp: | oh, it uses their internal serialization format |
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| [06:39:45] | Valen: | so wagnerrp got my image storage group done yet ;-P |
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| [07:33:53] | laga: | is there a way to have mythvideo import some kind of .nfo file? I'm writing a custom grabber for a video website to download things to mythvideo and I'm wondering how I can best import the metadata |
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| [07:48:25] | dekarl: | laga, you can put mythtv native metadata into a file next to the video see http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/52613a0 . . . 65939/mythtv |
| [07:49:12] | dekarl: | here it is http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_Universal_Metadata_Format |
| [07:49:54] | laga: | thank you, this is great |
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| [07:51:56] | laga: | i can definitely work with that |
| [07:53:30] | laga: | I'm probably going to wedge it into MythNetVision: if it downloads an item, it automagically adds it to MythVideo |
| [07:53:34] | laga: | although that is.. kludgy. |
| [07:55:52] | dekarl: | hmm, sounds a bit like https://github.com/managementboy/mntv |
| [07:56:20] | dekarl: | anyway, got to leave |
| [07:58:35] | laga: | dekarl: thanks, I will look into it |
| [07:59:11] | laga: | as for MythNetVision, I'd love to have some kind of cache facility so I'd only have to grab the updated content |
| [07:59:28] | laga: | it's a bit unfriendly to the source to grab three years worth of metadata every time the site map is updated |
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| [19:28:35] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: so, removed the hdpvr killer, and used the "new" power supply – no issues with recordings in 2 days and over 9 recordings |
| [19:28:44] | skd5aner: | before I was at about an 80% fail rate |
| [19:29:34] | Beirdo: | it's likely your old power supply then |
| [19:29:38] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:29:56] | skd5aner: | yup! most likely |
| [19:30:06] | Beirdo: | and sometimes, I've had to completely remove the hdpvr driver when things get really confused |
| [19:30:17] | skd5aner: | I knew that in the past hauppauge had replaced some of the early ones because they used those defective plastic caps |
| [19:30:42] | Beirdo: | my motherboard doesn't appreciate me poiwercycling the USB device so often |
| [19:31:04] | skd5aner: | you might want to try a new power supply and see if you have any luck |
| [19:31:28] | Beirdo: | maybe. It's actually not too bad |
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| [23:33:45] | majnoon: | ok here the "problem" on lan mythtv frontend show vid good but sound jitters livetv |
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