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| [03:28:55] | wagnerrp: | sphery: any clue where i might be able to pick up a "car size battery" by tuesday afternoon? |
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| [03:34:49] | sphery: | wagnerrp: hehe, as big as a compact or full size? |
| [03:35:01] | sphery: | is this from a show? |
| [03:35:37] | wagnerrp: | "car size" |
| [03:35:48] | [R]: | lol |
| [03:36:03] | wagnerrp: | ive got a box of dead and old electronics ive been meaning to take to some recycling place for about two years now |
| [03:36:26] | wagnerrp: | and lo, an email from my high school saying they're going an electronics recycling drive on tuesday, 2–5:30 |
| [03:36:50] | wagnerrp: | under items that will be accepted — "Batteries (small to car size)" |
| [03:37:03] | sphery: | hehe |
| [03:37:12] | [R]: | ROFL |
| [03:37:16] | sphery: | that should cover most all of them |
| [03:37:27] | [R]: | wagnerrp: a battery the size of a battery for a car, not a battery the size of a car... |
| [03:37:35] | wagnerrp: | thats not what it says |
| [03:37:47] | [R]: | lol |
| [03:37:51] | sphery: | and it's a school, so, obviously, they wouldn't use the wrong words |
| [03:38:04] | wagnerrp: | you say a watch battery, not a watch-sized battery |
| [03:38:08] | [R]: | LOL |
| [03:38:10] | sphery: | I mean they teach people how to use words |
| [03:38:18] | wagnerrp: | you say a calculator battery, not a calculator-sized battery |
| [03:38:22] | wagnerrp: | its the same thing here |
| [03:38:28] | wagnerrp: | its a car battery |
| [03:38:49] | wagnerrp: | a car-sized battery is a several ton slab of lead, filled with acid, they you have to haul in on a flatbet |
| [03:38:52] | wagnerrp: | flatbed |
| [03:39:03] | wagnerrp: | and i must have one |
| [03:39:15] | wagnerrp: | i can get the flatbed |
| [03:41:39] | sphery: | and, besides, these days, there are hybrids and electric vehicles with big old banks of batteries, so even "car battery" isn't that descriptive |
| [03:42:25] | sphery: | (they're packaged as a single unit, right? not individually-replaceable modules?) |
| [03:42:51] | wagnerrp: | new wiki user... CRCComputer |
| [03:42:54] | wagnerrp: | spam? no spam? |
| [03:43:07] | sphery: | try a CRC check |
| [03:43:44] | sphery: | (or perhaps that should be a CRC or CR check) |
| [03:44:25] | wagnerrp: | hang on, i already banned him a month ago |
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| [04:00:15] | lukeo: | I moved from LA to DC. When I got here I changed my time-zone, changed my channels, cleared all my listing and ran mythfilldatabase. Everything seems to be working except the time on mythweb. The time on the tv interface is correct but the time on mythweb is still showing Pacific time |
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| [04:01:07] | lukeo: | Tried setting the timezone in php but that doesn't seem to be helping |
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| [04:35:56] | jm|laptop: | lukeo: what distro? |
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| [05:06:38] | dekarl: | lukeo, in case you read the logs, theres been talk about mythweb keeping a session cache with the TZ, see http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-05-20:22:05 |
| [05:07:01] | dekarl: | likely the issue will go away in the next days (or when you reset the session) |
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| [06:58:06] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: you awake? |
| [06:59:19] | [R]: | does anyone else think Beirdo is kinda like "beard-o"? |
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| [07:05:07] | wagnerrp: | anyway, is there any real reason to split the gentoo ebuilds into the various branches? |
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| [07:46:21] | Beirdo: | I'm just about to head for bed, but I'm up |
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| [08:14:44] | Shadow__X: | [R]: I do |
| [08:15:12] | [R]: | lol |
| [08:15:34] | Shadow__X: | is there a proper way to pronounce it? |
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| [09:18:14] | prologic: | Is there an easy way to clear all previously recorded episodes? |
| [09:18:33] | prologic: | What MythTV think it's previously recorded (but not necessarily in storage) |
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| [09:22:29] | oobe: | prologic, change the recording preference to any episode |
| [09:24:31] | prologic: | umm |
| [09:24:37] | prologic: | I actually want to clear that entire list though |
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| [10:09:48] | tank-man: | recorded a naughty show? :) |
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| [11:02:42] | prologic: | haha |
| [11:02:43] | prologic: | as if |
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| [11:11:05] | ujee: | Hmm.. the slave backend works even when set to listen on localhost. But I suspect I have done terribly wrong, am I right? |
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| [12:01:43] | Curly060: | Hi folks! I go tmythtv up and running,however,it would be great if some knowing ppl could shed some light on some things. I have a dual tuner DVB-T card. Docs are not that clear how to set up video sources. My idea is as follows: ONE video source per CARD(not per tuner). So in my case I configure one video source and assign this source to each of my tuners, right? |
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| [12:10:52] | Sulx: | yes |
| [12:11:10] | Sulx: | if your only source is Terrestial signal |
| [12:11:38] | Sulx: | but if you for example add cable or satellite...then its another source |
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| [12:16:04] | peitolm: | 1 video source per distinct set of channels is probably easier to think about |
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| [12:18:54] | Curly060: | no, my only source is terrestrial. Ok, good, so thats already how I thought it must be:) 2nd question: in mythtv-setup I can scan in two places: from Input conections and from Channel Editor. How do I know which channels mythtv will scan if I scan from within input connections? Mythtv always seems to miss one channel, so I need to manually add it |
| [12:19:04] | Curly060: | argl, sent too early... |
| [12:19:36] | Curly060: | so I manually add it in channel editor by adding another transponder |
| [12:20:40] | Curly060: | I have seen some files under /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/* Is mythtv using that info from there? Where does mythtv get its info, when I tell it to make a full scan? Importing channels.conf doesnt work,because then I miss all EPG data (as mentioned in the docs) |
| [12:24:20] | Curly060: | and if I tell it to make a full scan, it detects conflicting channels, because some channels are found on diff transponders. however, I know all my transponders and their frequencies. I simply would love to edit some config file to tell mythtv: here, thosre are my transponders, only scan these! and if I ever decide to delete a video source or all channels, I would like mythtv-setup to STILL know this information (so ideally it would be in some system |
| [12:26:26] | Curly060: | and my last question: as mentioned I have a dual tuner. so when I am in PIP mode, i can only choose between channels on same multiplex, unless I manually change the input. is there any way to avoid manually chaning the input? cant i tell mythtv: I wanna awatch channel A and B and if they are not on same multiplex, justfind a free tuner for me and show it? |
| [12:27:21] | pepsiman: | last question: use 0.25 |
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| [12:36:50] | Curly060: | @pepsiman: I am using 0.25. So in 0.25 it should work as I would like to have it? |
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| [12:40:18] | pepsiman: | 0.25 release notes say: Fix Live TV tuning issues when using multi-rec (i.e., virtual tuners) and getting stuck on a mux while the tuner is recording ([21784ce], [3a51b83]) – fixed #4989, #7164, #10377, #10400 |
| [12:40:18] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4989 ** | |
| [12:40:18] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7164 ** | |
| [12:40:18] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10377 ** | |
| [12:40:18] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10400 ** | |
| [12:41:03] | pepsiman: | I hope that applies to PIP, but I don't use PIP |
| [12:50:53] | Curly060: | pepsiman:ok, well, at least it is possible to switch. and since PIP is a bit blurry, its not that important, but I merely wanted to know :) |
| [12:59:02] | xavierh: | How the metedata grabber is working for recorded movies? I try to grab the metadata, but the description stayed unchanged |
| [12:59:14] | xavierh: | s/metedata/metadata |
| [12:59:54] | Curly060: | anyone on the scan thing? How does mythtv find transports? In scan configuration I can say "Full Scan" and specify the country. how does mythtv know about the transports of my country? is there some config file somewhere that i can edit and put exactly the correct info there (since I know all my transports)? |
| [13:00:30] | pepsiman: | you can edit the transports after a scan and then just scan the known transports |
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| [13:14:20] | Curly060: | pepsiman: yes, I had found that out, too. Ok, that is a way of doing it, but currently i am still evaluating mythtv and deleting video sources etc quite often. so every time i must re-edit my transports. thats why it would be nice to have it in some config file which mythtv-setup uses, so that the scan is immedately doing the right thing. but thanks so far for the help! |
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| [13:15:13] | pepsiman: | you can also import a previous scan |
| [13:15:40] | Curly060: | pepsiman: only if you havent deleted the video source ion the meantime, which i did ;) |
| [13:16:42] | Curly060: | but yes, true. there are quite a few options. still, it would be nice to understand how mythtv works |
| [13:17:00] | pepsiman: | I usually end up deleting all channels, running a full scan and redownloading channel icons |
| [13:17:52] | pepsiman: | I want a way to check all channels can be tuned without spending an hour in livetv |
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| [13:20:35] | Curly060: | pepsiman: ok, i guess that will be the way to go then. but about that: if i delete my channels and rescan, the next their channel numbers are all over the place again and with them, the ordering. What I havent figured out yet: how do I sort my channels in my custom order so that in liveTV they are all where I want? |
| [13:21:31] | pepsiman: | UK DVB-T. I'm currently missing EPG for the Channel 4 family of channels from Saturday 26th onwards. Anyone else? |
| [13:21:48] | pepsiman: | Curly060, my channel numbers just work, sorry |
| [13:23:40] | Curly060: | pepsiman: so after a delete-rescan cycle, all your channel numbers are nice? dont you get channel numbers like 2, 15,412, 15365? |
| [13:24:39] | pepsiman: | my channel numbers match the expected Freeview channel numbers exactly |
| [13:26:15] | stuartm: | it all depends if the broadcasters in your country following the DVB specification or whether they are using a proprietary numbering system |
| [13:27:11] | Curly060: | stuartm: ok,thanks. I guess I am out of luck then. this is Germany, DVB-T. So what options do I have to get back my custom sorting after a delete-rescan cycle? |
| [13:29:46] | stuartm: | that's a good question, there's no simple solution right now, if you are really comfortable with mysql you could create a backup before scanning and copy back the numbering but I'm really not advocating that as the novice or even intermediate level solution |
| [13:30:16] | stuartm: | I'm wondering for the first time if we need a 'preserve channel numbering' option in the scanner |
| [13:30:50] | Curly060: | stuartm: since I am a developer and frequently work with databases, that is actually an option for me. it is just a question of knowing the right tables. I guess I can google this info |
| [13:33:21] | Curly060: | stuartm: that would indeed be a great option to have. on the other hand: how often does one delete all channels and rescan? while evauating mythtv it happnes often,but in everyday use, I guess not so much |
| [13:33:56] | stuartm: | Curly060: 'channel' table – I'd do a CREATE TABLE ... SELECT on it to make a backup before scanning, then after scanning an UPDATE channel a, channel_backup b SET a.channum=b.channum WHERE a.serviceid=b.serviceid; |
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| [13:39:41] | Curly060: | stuartm: thanks a lot! that will most definitely save me a lot of time! |
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| [13:49:38] | quicksilver: | talking of rescans, is there a really good page to read about how to do a UK switchover rescan? |
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| [14:24:30] | Curly060: | one more problem with the scanning: I deleted all existing channels and transports, then I made a full scan and deleted all channels. Now I have a list of transports. In that list I edited one transpiort which I know has a weak signal. I changed its frequency to a transport that has the strong signal. Now I made a scan of all known transports. All channels were found, all looks nice, except that now I dont have any EPG data on e |
| [14:24:30] | Curly060: | xactly those channels that are on the edited transport... |
| [14:24:41] | Curly060: | any ideas, why that could be? |
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| [14:49:10] | bentech: | Is there a system event for volume change?, so i could match my amp to the system volume, over rs232 |
| [14:49:33] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [14:50:08] | wagnerrp: | why not just use irexec to make the remote control the amp directly? |
| [14:50:53] | sid3windr: | or hdmi cec ;) |
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| [14:52:33] | wagnerrp: | that wont do any good |
| [14:52:37] | bentech: | its optical |
| [14:52:50] | wagnerrp: | still needs some application to send the control codes |
| [14:53:00] | sid3windr: | doesn't myth do that in .25? |
| [14:53:00] | bentech: | well IR blaster or rs232 doesn't matter i still need the hook of sound volume change |
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| [14:53:02] | wagnerrp: | HDMI would just replace RS232 |
| [14:53:13] | bentech: | the rs232 commands are really simple e.g., VOL 50 |
| [14:53:15] | sid3windr: | lirc can exec stuff too |
| [14:53:18] | sid3windr: | hehe |
| [14:53:21] | wagnerrp: | i really dont know to what extent mythtv supports that pulse8 stuff |
| [14:53:40] | sid3windr: | I have an adapter, but no .25 yet – also no hdmi amp yet, so.. :) |
| [14:53:40] | bentech: | maybe there is a alas hook |
| [14:54:02] | bentech: | yeah no hmdi amp is my problem as well |
| [14:54:18] | bentech: | although spdif is prob better |
| [14:55:04] | bentech: | I have a script that i can do e.g. ./amptalk vol 50 |
| [14:55:19] | bentech: | just wondering if there was a hook |
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| [14:56:06] | sid3windr: | lirc can exec things upon button presses |
| [14:56:09] | sid3windr: | if you don't map it to myth |
| [14:56:43] | bentech: | hmm, i use keyboard as well though, plus i want it to match the system volume not guess |
| [14:57:00] | bentech: | as i might as well make my remote send out the amp codes |
| [14:58:04] | bentech: | maybe there is a alsa hook |
| [14:58:06] | wagnerrp: | why? |
| [14:58:16] | wagnerrp: | if your system is controlling the volume, you dont need your amp to |
| [14:58:29] | wagnerrp: | if your amp is controlling the volume, then just leave the system at full |
| [14:58:31] | bentech: | my remote is controlling the amp |
| [14:58:35] | bentech: | but i have a keyboard as well |
| [14:58:45] | wagnerrp: | why do you need two separate volume controls? |
| [14:59:19] | bentech: | for the visual feedback of volume control and i was planning to make it change source when you start using mythtv |
| [14:59:56] | bentech: | also my sonos requires a higher volume on the amp which would be nice to be lowered for mythtv |
| [15:01:35] | bentech: | this ticket here is adding some events, http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9395 |
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| [15:12:17] | loganrun: | is there any way to delete shows that don't have a recording assoicated with them? it looks like I can do it one by one from the web interface, but each deletion takes a very long time |
| [15:12:42] | loganrun: | I tried adding the group to the playlist, but that doesn't work |
| [15:12:53] | loganrun: | since they are shown with an X indicating there is no valid recording Iguess |
| [15:13:09] | loganrun: | which there was some easy way to delete them all |
| [15:13:23] | loganrun: | don't understand why the web interface is so darn slow |
| [15:13:56] | loganrun: | is anyone online |
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| [15:14:26] | loganrun: | is there any way to delete shows that don't have a recording assoicated with them? it looks like I can do it one by one from the web interface, but each deletion takes a very long time |
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| [15:17:37] | bentech: | new github graphs are cool, https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/graphs/code-frequency |
| [15:23:38] | loganrun: | why does deleting a show from the web interface take so long |
| [15:28:35] | tgm4883: | loganrun, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py |
| [15:30:02] | tgm4883: | loganrun, did you see this ^^ |
| [15:30:23] | tgm4883: | loganrun, are you still here? |
| [15:30:32] | tgm4883: | loganrun, why aren't you answering me? |
| [15:30:40] | tgm4883: | loganrun, I'm just trying to help |
| [15:30:49] | loganrun: | no looking at it |
| [15:30:57] | loganrun: | sorry was downloading it |
| [15:31:06] | skd5aner: | tgm4883: a bit of patience, lol |
| [15:31:45] | tgm4883: | skd5aner, I know. I was kinda pointing that out ;) |
| [15:32:12] | tgm4883: | loganrun, no worries. just know that this is IRC, and people check back from time to time |
| [15:32:38] | skd5aner: | ah, didn't read back far enough to catch the irony |
| [15:32:50] | loganrun: | the script sounds promising, let me see what happens |
| [15:32:53] | tgm4883: | skd5aner, I am to please :) |
| [15:33:01] | tgm4883: | loganrun, yea I've used it in the past for the same thing |
| [15:33:45] | loganrun: | if it works, this will save me a headache |
| [15:34:05] | loganrun: | would be a good addition to the web interface |
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| [15:34:49] | tgm4883: | loganrun, actually, it would be better if it didn't list recordings that weren't there. |
| [15:35:00] | tgm4883: | but I can see the reason it does |
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| [15:36:29] | loganrun: | well it would be nice if there was a way to batch delete entries on the web interface, kind of like how the channel dialog lets you delete a lot of channels in one shot |
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| [15:38:00] | loganrun: | the script is failing when it tries to delete "Unkown" |
| [15:38:11] | loganrun: | Unknown |
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| [15:42:06] | tgm4883: | loganrun, any error messages? Is there a verbose setting? |
| [15:42:37] | loganrun: | Warning: Failed to delete 'charity: Unknown' |
| [15:42:38] | loganrun: | Recordings with missing files |
| [15:43:02] | loganrun: | when it prints out the shows it shows a bunch with name unknown |
| [15:43:18] | loganrun: | pretty weird |
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| [15:53:47] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: you around? |
| [16:05:33] | loganrun: | well with a little python code change and repair tables from the web interface, I think I am back in business |
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| [16:07:40] | sphery: | loganrun: what version of MythTV? |
| [16:08:49] | sphery: | loganrun: the only supported way of cleaning up after something destroys MythTV's recording files (at least in 0.25, since we have a bug that prevents doing it from the mythfrontend Watch Recordings screen) is http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py |
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| [16:11:26] | jams: | Thats what he used |
| [16:11:45] | sphery: | loganrun: the script isn't failing, you're re-running it too fast |
| [16:12:01] | sphery: | loganrun: run it once, then wait until the backend can delete everything properly before running it again |
| [16:21:44] | ujee: | I put my slave backed to listen on localhost.. it works, but... wasn't it a dumb idea? |
| [16:27:23] | loganrun: | sphery, ahh that could be |
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| [16:29:50] | loganrun: | going to try to install mythtv from source. is the development version worth downloading or is it pretty unstable |
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| [16:38:35] | loganrun: | ahh crud doesn't look like it will be possible to build it with FC14, seems like most of the prerequisite packages don't exist in yum |
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| [16:44:19] | sphery: | loganrun: IMHO, everyone should use -fixes for all production systems |
| [16:44:33] | sphery: | I'm a developer and I use -fixes, but I have a separate system set up to allow development |
| [16:45:13] | sphery: | if you use unstable/development code, you need to subscribe to mythtv-commits and mythtv-dev mailing lists and keep up with them so you know what's broken and what's not, and know when something is a bug and when it's unfinished work and ... |
| [16:45:19] | sphery: | and know when to pull updates |
| [16:45:43] | sphery: | and you should realize that you /will/ miss recordings because you're running unstable/development code |
| [16:45:55] | sphery: | meaning, if you want a DVR, you should probably use -fixes |
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| [16:52:01] | sphery: | loganrun: why were you thinking of building from source? is that an indication that you're using 0.24 since your distro doesn't have packages for the 0.25-fixes MythTV version? If so, you can actually delete properly from Watch Recordings: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . t_on_disk.3F |
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| [17:12:47] | ujee: | How does one use mythfilldatabase? The example on the wiki does not work (mythfilldatabase --update --file 1 tvguide.xml) |
| [17:13:32] | ujee: | I get "Boolean type options do not accept values: --file" |
| [17:16:27] | ujee: | got it.. it's 'mythfilldatabase --file --sourceid 1 --xmlfile tvguide.xml' |
| [17:18:01] | ujee: | even mythfilldatabase --help provides obsolete information :/ |
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| [17:22:58] | sphery: | ujee: you shouldn't have to call mythfilldatabase manually... just set the backend to run it for you |
| [17:23:10] | sphery: | ujee: also, please mention where on the wiki it's wrong (or correct it) |
| [17:23:19] | ujee: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythfilldatabase |
| [17:23:22] | sphery: | also, please mention what's obsolete in the --help output |
| [17:23:34] | ujee: | the information about '--file' |
| [17:23:45] | ujee: | says nothing about requirement for "--sourceid" |
| [17:25:15] | ujee: | ah.. the wiki is correct below.. the example at "--update" was confusing |
| [17:26:37] | ujee: | sphery, how do I configure that? (using tv_grab_dvb_plus for complicated reasons) |
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| [17:28:50] | loganrun: | sphery, yes I have version 0.24 and want to upgrade to latest version, of course I don't see it for FC14 |
| [17:29:24] | sphery: | ujee: did you see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythfilldatabase#3 . . . _--file_flag (or did you just add it)? |
| [17:29:43] | sphery: | loganrun: my recommendation would be to upgrade to a version of your distro that has packages for the current version of MythTV |
| [17:29:46] | ujee: | I made no changes, sphery |
| [17:30:16] | sphery: | loganrun: but with 0.24-fixes, deleting a recording without a file works if you a) follow directions in the wiki link I provided and b) disable "Auto-expire instead of delete" |
| [17:30:25] | ujee: | sphery, it's the example under option "--update" that confused me |
| [17:30:32] | loganrun: | sphery, yeah I guess that is the only option, it takes forever to get things running on a new system. the lircd is always screwed up |
| [17:30:45] | sphery: | loganrun: with 0.25-fixes, "Auto-expire instead of delete" is always enabled, which is why we now can't properly delete recording metadata without files |
| [17:31:04] | sphery: | loganrun: but find_orphans.py will handle it for you |
| [17:31:26] | sphery: | ujee: ok, thanks... I'm cleaning up lots of old/outdated garbage on the page |
| [17:31:33] | loganrun: | find orphans works well, it is just the frontend crashes periodically when jumping around on the recording which is a real pain |
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| [17:33:55] | sphery: | ugghhh... Ctrl-W doesn't kill a word in Firefox. |
| [17:34:05] | ** sphery needs bashfox (with readline support) ** | |
| [17:35:28] | sphery: | loganrun: yeah, updating to 0.25-fixes, you'll have a /much/ better experience with playback (especially with Live TV) |
| [17:35:42] | sphery: | so it's probably worthwhile when you can make the time |
| [17:35:51] | sphery: | (but I do recognize that it's a bit of a time sink) |
| [17:47:12] | Oleg_: | the latest version of 0.25-fixes mythtv is v0.25-100-gb5b4c48? |
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| [18:04:49] | justdave: | I've had the opposite experience |
| [18:05:00] | justdave: | LiveTV freezes up on me every time the program changes on 0.25-fixes |
| [18:05:28] | justdave: | frontend log gets lots of log entries about "Taking too long to be allowed to read.." |
| [18:06:18] | sphery: | Oleg_: yeah |
| [18:07:12] | sphery: | justdave: /me guesses you have your mysql database on a file system using ext4 (with barriers enabled) and the required mysql access is blocking all I/O (including reading the recording file), so transitions fail |
| [18:07:30] | ** justdave looks ** | |
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| [18:07:58] | justdave: | it's on ext3 |
| [18:08:04] | justdave: | /dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,data=writeback) |
| [18:08:59] | sphery: | justdave: does it say barrier=0 in: cat /proc/mounts |
| [18:10:03] | justdave: | I see lots of barrier=1 on all the ext3 devices |
| [18:10:38] | justdave: | should those be barrier=0? |
| [18:14:21] | sphery: | barrier = 1 means barriers are enabled |
| [18:14:38] | sphery: | barriers provide safety in catastrophic circumstances |
| [18:14:52] | sphery: | without them, you may get data--or even file system--corruption |
| [18:15:20] | justdave: | googling on that info I'm seeing recommendations to have mysql on a different platter than the recordings, and that's already the case |
| [18:15:30] | sphery: | but the cost is terrible I/O performance, because they say, "when something syncs data, wait until that data is on the platter before allowing anyone else to read or write data" |
| [18:15:51] | justdave: | it's also a relatively ancient box and the drives are probably slow |
| [18:16:06] | justdave: | (they were pretty high-end when it was bought, but it's a number of years old :) |
| [18:16:11] | sphery: | I'd recommend testing with barrier=0 explicitly specified for the file system with mysql data |
| [18:16:24] | sphery: | and if it fixes the problem, post the results to -users list and appropriate tickets |
| [18:16:48] | sphery: | like #10743 (and about 10 others, IIRC) |
| [18:16:48] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10743 ** | |
| [18:18:18] | justdave: | in my case when it hits the program change, livetv hangs with a black screen for about 30 seconds, then it goes back to the main menu with a "read timed out" or some similar error, and I have to pick Watch TV again |
| [18:18:45] | justdave: | and then it usually has staticky audio on the first attempt and I have to hit escape and do it again to get normal audio |
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| [18:25:02] | sphery: | yeah, that sounds a lot to me like what would happen if mythtv were prevented from reading from disk because the I/O subsystem was locking all I/O due to a request to sync with barriers enabled |
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| [20:08:57] | MrShakeTouchpad: | is there no longer a browser with o.25? |
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| [20:11:54] | MrShakeTouchpad: | found it |
| [20:12:51] | ujee: | How bad idea is running a slave backend on 127.0.0.1 ? (since I did it and won't have an opportunity for fix for a week) Will it catch fire? :P |
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| [20:26:27] | skd5aner: | Well, I don't think you techincally can |
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| [20:41:44] | wagnerrp: | sure you can, and it will record so long as your master backend is on a normal IP |
| [20:41:54] | wagnerrp: | but anything it records will be inaccessible |
| [20:42:11] | MrShakeTouchpad: | how can i ennable zoneminder plugin with plugins already installed? |
| [20:42:36] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [20:43:23] | MrShakeTouchpad: | ive already got mythplugins installed |
| [20:43:27] | MrShakeTouchpad: | using apt |
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| [20:43:35] | uh992k: | good evening |
| [20:43:42] | MrShakeTouchpad: | i need to enable zm right? |
| [20:43:50] | wagnerrp: | ok? so what prevents you from installing the zoneminder plugin? |
| [20:44:13] | MrShakeTouchpad: | isnt it included but is a compile option? |
| [20:44:47] | uh992k: | sphery: yay! my patch was accepted and was committed :) |
| [20:44:50] | wagnerrp: | is there simply no package for mythzoneminder in your distro of choice? |
| [20:45:15] | MrShakeTouchpad: | hrm... |
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| [20:45:28] | MrShakeTouchpad: | didnt get that impreeession from the docs |
| [20:45:58] | wagnerrp: | if theres no binary package, youll just have to build it yourself |
| [20:47:40] | MrShakeTouchpad: | well...napt found it |
| [20:47:42] | MrShakeTouchpad: | apt |
| [20:49:29] | at0m: | MrShakeTouchpad: i set up zm the other week, too |
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| [20:49:55] | MrShakeTouchpad: | im just playing right now |
| [20:49:58] | at0m: | zm works fine on the web server, but the mythzoneminder fails to find the zm server |
| [20:50:10] | at0m: | need to look into that some more later. |
| [20:50:42] | MrShakeTouchpad: | i dont even have zm seeing my cam yet.... cam requires auth |
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| [20:51:25] | wagnerrp: | note, mythzoneminder must be run on the same PC as the camera is attached to |
| [20:51:48] | wagnerrp: | there is no network capability like mythtv's master/slave backends |
| [20:51:49] | at0m: | wagnerrp: ah that's why... it's on my headless BE for now |
| [20:52:25] | at0m: | mythzoneminder is on the frontends, cam on the be |
| [20:52:53] | wagnerrp: | note, that is a zoneminder limitation, and not anything mythtv can do anything about |
| [20:52:59] | wagnerrp: | zoneminder is only designed to operate on single systems |
| [20:53:01] | wagnerrp: | not a cluster |
| [20:53:04] | at0m: | doh |
| [20:53:27] | wagnerrp: | usually if people want a sizable ZM installation, they use networked cameras |
| [20:53:49] | MrShakeTouchpad: | im using ip cams |
| [20:54:10] | at0m: | i tried with this spare usb cam to see how it all went |
| [20:54:12] | MrShakeTouchpad: | tried to get mythbrowser to view the stream, but nogo |
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| [21:17:08] | ujee: | wagnerrp, actually, since you told me to use NFS it is accessible |
| [21:18:07] | ujee: | the only thing that appears to be broken is livetv .. and recordings stuck in "recording" state for suspiciously longer than they should |
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| [21:41:51] | at0m: | MrShakeTouchpad: same. getting all the pages, but without the images, in the browser. |
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| [22:24:27] | Beirdo: | blargh |
| [22:28:23] | at0m: | sup Beirdo |
| [22:28:36] | ** at0m shopping for DVB-S cards ** | |
| [22:30:46] | Beirdo: | can't help ya there :) |
| [22:31:09] | at0m: | dont need help now, just felt chatty :D |
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| [22:48:29] | k-man: | i can't believe how whingy some people are about the new logging system in .25 |
| [22:57:03] | Beirdo: | me neither |
| [22:57:26] | Beirdo: | I have another set of further changes lined up already... |
| [22:57:27] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:57:49] | Beirdo: | and I'm sure someone (or some ones) will whine about THAT too |
| [22:58:08] | Beirdo: | just want to get it building for windows and the PPC Linux slave first |
| [22:58:21] | Beirdo: | the PPC one just needs a package installed |
| [22:58:47] | Beirdo: | windows (as always) needs either hand-holding or bitch-slapping |
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| [23:24:27] | sphery: | Beirdo: I shouldn't have to run yet another program just to have logging output... I can't believe you think that's good... |
| [23:24:48] | sphery: | (joking... I am a huge fan of the new logging in 0.25 and an even bigger fan of the zeromq logging) |
| [23:26:56] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [23:46:00] | tgm4883: | Beirdo, where is the "email logs to beirdo so he can personalize them and email them back" option? |
| [23:46:13] | tgm4883: | it's all about customer service :) |
| [23:47:00] | tgm4883: | you could enable that by using the --gtfo flag, which would promptly delete all your recordings |
| [23:47:34] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | some people are just daft |
| [23:48:28] | Beirdo: | it's like they think I didn't talk to anyone at all in the process :) |
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