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| [00:15:50] | wizbit: | git is interesting. if you git clone a mythtv repo, you can view commits via git log |
| [00:16:01] | wizbit: | see what branch your on via git branch |
| [00:16:07] | wizbit: | git pull for updates :D |
| [00:16:40] | ** wizbit is still on the 24 branch ** | |
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| [00:52:03] | wagnerrp: | and from a year and a half in the past, apparently |
| [00:53:38] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: the log shows there was a commit done in april this year on the 24 branch :D |
| [00:53:55] | ** wizbit starts to use clever git words ** | |
| [00:54:56] | wizbit: | i got 2 frontends compiling at the same time |
| [00:55:30] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: if there are too many files open on the diskless frontend, disk access goes really _SLOW_ |
| [00:55:43] | wizbit: | i cannot watch tv and compile at the same time |
| [00:56:12] | wizbit: | i think nfs has its limits |
| [01:00:57] | lucas^: | it's almost certainly the drive itself |
| [01:01:31] | lucas^: | ext4 / btrfs both have terrible performance on this drive. any large file-copy operation brings the system to an unresponsive halt for at least a few seconds |
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| [01:15:27] | poppeye: | hey guys, i'm having trouble with video tearing in precise, 0.25 mythtv. i've switched to the 2d unity setup, and disabled compositing, and i believe i have all the correct sync to vblank marks checked. i have video playback set to nvdpau, (i have a gtx240 video card). right now the tear is a slow moving (top to bottom) line, and is pretty consistent. anyone have any advice on where to go next? |
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| [01:25:48] | wagnerrp: | wizbit: no, i mean youre just discovering git |
| [01:26:13] | wagnerrp: | poppeye: what video output? |
| [01:26:46] | poppeye: | any recording or livetv |
| [01:27:55] | wagnerrp: | output... |
| [01:28:30] | poppeye: | 1080 you mean? |
| [01:28:43] | wagnerrp: | composite... component... vga... dvi... hdmi... |
| [01:28:48] | poppeye: | hdmi |
| [01:29:04] | poppeye: | to a television. |
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| [02:01:22] | wagnerrp: | well that was disappointing |
| [02:01:38] | wagnerrp: | they gave a cliff hanger into a new storyline that were never going to get to see |
| [02:02:04] | wagnerrp: | damn you JJ^H^HFOX |
| [02:07:12] | Oleg_: | mythbackend reported this: |
| [02:07:16] | Oleg_: | 2012-05–11 22:00:24.413521 E JobQueue: Metadata Lookup Errored: Supernatural:"There Will Be Blood" recorded from channel 1111 at 2012-05–11T21:00:00 (Failed with exit status 128) |
| [02:07:39] | Oleg_: | why did this error occur? |
| [02:10:18] | sphery: | wagnerrp: on Fringe? |
| [02:10:42] | sphery: | Oleg_: I can think of 128 reasons! |
| [02:10:53] | wagnerrp: | yeah, didnt fox can it a few months back? |
| [02:11:12] | sphery: | I hadn't heard of cancellation |
| [02:11:46] | sphery: | http://www.tv.com/news/fox-cancels-alcatraz-a . . . touch-28614/ |
| [02:11:59] | sphery: | says they "renewed Fringe for a shortened fifth season at the end of April" |
| [02:12:17] | sphery: | (where I think they mean it was renewed at the end of April for a shortened fifth season next year ;) |
| [02:12:33] | sphery: | so we have 13 episodes for them to close up that storyline! |
| [02:13:56] | sphery: | Oleg_: do you have an inetref set for the show in your recording rule? (78901 seems to be thetvdb.com id for it) |
| [02:15:04] | wagnerrp: | yeah, 13 episodes could probably do it |
| [02:19:18] | Oleg_: | sphery, I guess that site provides xml data for different shows? |
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| [02:20:23] | diogorb: | Please, can any one tell me iff myth uses DSM CC protocol? |
| [02:20:51] | diogorb: | I need do develop an application with DSM CC principles |
| [02:20:51] | Oleg_: | so, metadata lookup error means that I am missing some pretty xml data pictures for my show? |
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| [02:39:41] | wagnerrp: | hahahahaha |
| [02:39:47] | wagnerrp: | silly Grimm |
| [02:39:58] | wagnerrp: | "a mixture of homeopathic herbs and spices" |
| [02:40:04] | wagnerrp: | i.e. tap water |
| [02:44:51] | wagnerrp: | diogorb: mythtv supports MHEG, but to be honest, ive never heard of DSM-CC |
| [02:45:00] | wagnerrp: | you might have better luck talking to the ffmpeg guys |
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| [02:45:51] | diogorb: | http://www.interactivetvweb.org/tutorials/dtv_intro/dsmcc |
| [02:46:21] | diogorb: | ok, thanks!!! |
| [02:46:27] | wagnerrp: | right, MHEG is used for the same purpose in the UK, and so UK devs have implemented it |
| [02:46:43] | wagnerrp: | i dont believe anyone has done so for dsmcc |
| [02:47:37] | diogorb: | ok, i am a newbie on that stuff. i am reading to learn... there is a lot to do ... |
| [02:47:59] | diogorb: | i am trying to develop a system do stream audio, video e Generic objects |
| [02:48:34] | diogorb: | dsm cc is just a try to understand how can i do it... i was thinking about using myth enviroment... |
| [02:48:55] | diogorb: | So myth implements MHEG to the same purpose... right? |
| [02:49:10] | wagnerrp: | thats my understanding, never used it |
| [02:49:14] | diogorb: | stream audio, video and Generic objects |
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| [02:50:17] | diogorb: | Wagnerrp, do you know where to find stuff about that MHEP? |
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| [03:04:01] | eddytv: | Wow. I can't believe upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 ruined my mythtv setup. |
| [03:04:03] | JoshTriplett: | I'm currently trying to track down why my frontends now all have intermittently stuttering audio ever since upgrading from 0.22 to 0.25. I see messages in the frontend and backend logs about "Waited 225ms for video buffers" and "Waited 0.5 seconds for data to become available", but I don't see any signs of a reason why. |
| [03:04:29] | JoshTriplett: | Could I get some help tracking down these issues? |
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| [03:15:27] | Oleg_: | my nvidia gt 220 card has overheating issues |
| [03:19:15] | tekdoc: | Oleg_: fan cooled or passive? |
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| [03:21:23] | Oleg_: | I don't know what it means |
| [03:22:00] | Oleg_: | I just know that my card overheats |
| [03:22:14] | lucas^: | does your card have a fan on it |
| [03:22:20] | Oleg_: | yes |
| [03:23:06] | Oleg_: | In nvidia-settings, I see that the fan speed keeps changing from 13 to 16 |
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| [03:23:32] | Oleg_: | and the temperature of the card is 61 C now |
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| [03:25:05] | Oleg_: | if I start watching a video now, the card will crash pretty soon |
| [03:27:02] | Oleg_: | if I remove the card and put oil on its fan, then it will function properly for like 2 weeks |
| [03:29:27] | Oleg_: | however, I have another card, which is 9500 gt |
| [03:29:42] | Oleg_: | those cards have approximately the same features, right? |
| [03:39:46] | Oleg_: | ok, bbl |
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| [09:09:21] | ** wizbit learns git checkout ** | |
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| [09:53:29] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: fwiw, we have a DSMCC parser/handler (object carousel) |
| [09:54:00] | stuartm: | it's used by MHEG for delivery of components (text, images, etc) |
| [09:54:31] | stuartm: | our implementation is apparently based off one called libdsmcc |
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| [09:56:20] | wizbit: | stuartm: i see your name pop up when i did a: git log |
| [10:01:46] | stuartm: | strange |
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| [10:28:11] | wizbit: | stuartm: maybe you commited a change? im learning git :D |
| [10:29:10] | wizbit: | is fixes a branch? or is .24 and .25 a branch? |
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| [11:23:18] | RogerM: | Anyone here that can answer how myth open up a video device(dvb) when changing channels or tuning to another channels due to a scheduled recording? Does it just "tune" or does it close and open the device? |
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| [14:46:09] | bentech: | Hey has anyone tried torc for iPad yet? |
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| [15:03:01] | bentech: | Hi, i found out that if a row in the table channel has the field tvformat set to "Default" the program guide takes over 3mins to load |
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| [15:36:33] | Rabbit^^: | Has anyone been able to successfully use MythTV with ATI's TVW750USB? |
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| [16:20:01] | wagnerrp: | bentech: no, because its not available |
| [16:20:14] | wagnerrp: | keeps getting stalled at Apple review for one inane reason or another |
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| [16:21:13] | wagnerrp: | Rabbit^^: mythtv does not support tuners, we support tuner interfaces |
| [16:21:38] | wagnerrp: | if the 750 has drivers that support the linux DVB API, mythtv should be able to use it |
| [16:23:33] | Rabbit^^: | Silly question: What is the difference? |
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| [16:37:19] | Guierrmo: | I have tried Torc, it is in the app store now. |
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| [16:42:54] | Guierrmo: | I haven't had much luck with HLS, with or without Torc, the video is unwatchable no matter the bit rate or resolution, it is all macro blocked. |
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| [16:43:40] | Guierrmo: | Are there additional requirements for the backend besides enabling x264 and mp3lame? |
| [16:50:24] | bentech: | wagnerrp: I just got it of the appstore |
| [16:50:40] | bentech: | torc has been approved |
| [16:51:22] | bentech: | Guierrmo: Your torc connected correctly? |
| [16:53:21] | Guierrmo: | bentech: yes, didn't auto discover, but it connected ok and I can see all my content. |
| [16:54:35] | bentech: | oh mine auto discovers but doesn't connect |
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| [16:59:32] | iamlindoro: | bentech: Did you actual tap/select the detected backend? |
| [16:59:39] | bentech: | yes |
| [16:59:50] | iamlindoro: | (does it have a checkbox next to it on the settings page) |
| [16:59:54] | bentech: | yes |
| [16:59:58] | iamlindoro: | OK, sounds like you have a firewall issue of some sort |
| [17:00:04] | bentech: | its not |
| [17:00:14] | bentech: | i did a wireshark and it tries this, http://192.168.0.37:6545/Dvr/GetRecordedList? . . . cending=true |
| [17:00:18] | bentech: | which doesn't load on my page |
| [17:00:26] | bentech: | do you think you could try it? |
| [17:00:32] | iamlindoro: | Are you actually running your backend services on 6545? |
| [17:00:37] | bentech: | yes |
| [17:00:41] | iamlindoro: | Why? |
| [17:00:52] | bentech: | why not? |
| [17:00:53] | iamlindoro: | 6544 is the default/correct |
| [17:01:13] | iamlindoro: | If that URL doesn't load, then your issue is that you have a backend misconfiguration |
| [17:01:21] | bentech: | oh sorry it is 6544 |
| [17:01:32] | iamlindoro: | Are you using .25? |
| [17:01:34] | bentech: | yrs |
| [17:01:36] | bentech: | *yes |
| [17:01:44] | bentech: | mythbuntu 12.04 |
| [17:01:53] | iamlindoro: | OK, well your first step is to get that URL to at least load in a browser |
| [17:02:02] | iamlindoro: | there's some sort of connectivity issue on a lower level than the app |
| [17:02:10] | iamlindoro: | if you can't load in a browser, then the app can't load it either |
| [17:02:21] | bentech: | yeah but i have no idea where to start with that |
| [17:02:27] | bentech: | i don't even know how to find that script |
| [17:02:34] | iamlindoro: | It's not a script, it's just a URL |
| [17:02:40] | iamlindoro: | Which should be served up by the backend |
| [17:02:49] | bentech: | yeah but there is a script that serves it up |
| [17:02:55] | iamlindoro: | No, there isn't |
| [17:03:20] | iamlindoro: | The URLs are dynamic, and the paths are registered in the backend code |
| [17:03:27] | bentech: | i don't mean a php script |
| [17:03:31] | iamlindoro: | Nope |
| [17:03:32] | iamlindoro: | no php |
| [17:03:33] | bentech: | but the source code of mythbackend |
| [17:03:42] | iamlindoro: | There's no script whatsoever |
| [17:03:44] | bentech: | i could just have a look at what tables it used etc |
| [17:03:47] | iamlindoro: | the whole API is compiled code |
| [17:04:00] | bentech: | i know its a compiled script |
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| [17:04:14] | iamlindoro: | Which makes it not a script, which is by definition not compiled :) |
| [17:04:20] | bentech: | alright alright |
| [17:04:28] | bentech: | i know its not a "script" |
| [17:04:36] | tgm4883: | This is better than some prime time programming |
| [17:04:39] | bentech: | but i was wondering where the source code for that method would be |
| [17:04:43] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, step one is to get that URL to load in a browser-- I suspect there's some sort of backend web server binding issue |
| [17:04:51] | bentech: | alright |
| [17:04:54] | iamlindoro: | so you'll want to look for errors in your backend startup |
| [17:05:03] | bentech: | will try in a hour have to give someone a lift somewhere ;( |
| [17:05:23] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp might be able to help if it is a binding issue, he knows that part very well |
| [17:05:35] | iamlindoro: | Once you get that URL to load in a browser, you should be all set for the app as well |
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| [17:06:12] | iamlindoro: | If you get to the point where you can load it in a browser and the app doesn't work for you, feel free to ping me |
| [17:06:14] | tgm4883: | bentech, did you install fresh or upgrade? |
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| [18:02:15] | bentech: | tgm4883: its a fresh install but i used my old database |
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| [18:34:46] | tgm4883: | Captain_Murdoch, sorry for the delay in testing. I ran the command you gave but for testing, but it doesn't like the --avf |
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| [18:42:58] | aramus: | has anyone gotten the pulse-eight usb cec adapter to work with mythtv .25? |
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| [18:58:52] | wagnerrp: | bentech: could i see the startup logs from your backend? |
| [18:59:58] | Seeker`: | evening |
| [19:00:07] | wagnerrp: | specifically, just looking to see what addresses your backend reported it was going to listen on |
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| [19:00:34] | uh992k: | good evening |
| [19:00:45] | uh992k: | wow crazy ... mythgallery can play mp3s :) |
| [19:01:03] | uh992k: | why do you still name it mythgallery and not mythfilebrowser? |
| [19:01:36] | uh992k: | I'd like to have it as a generic tool for playing and viewing media |
| [19:02:05] | wagnerrp: | because its intended purpose is for use as a photo gallery |
| [19:02:18] | uh992k: | that thought be reconsidered |
| [19:02:24] | wagnerrp: | i just hasnt grown into that role sufficiently enough to be much more than a simple file browser |
| [19:02:26] | uh992k: | it is suitable to be a good file browsing tool |
| [19:02:35] | wagnerrp: | yes, the plan is to make it a good photo gallery |
| [19:03:06] | uh992k: | it already is a good photo gallry |
| [19:03:14] | uh992k: | but why restrict it only for this purpose? |
| [19:03:26] | wagnerrp: | why need a generic file browser? |
| [19:03:48] | uh992k: | because I just want to browse to my directories and select files to watch/play |
| [19:03:58] | wagnerrp: | why? |
| [19:03:58] | uh992k: | mythmusic and mythvideo are way too complicated for this purpose |
| [19:04:22] | wagnerrp: | default behavior in mythvideo IS to display your content according to the layout of your directories |
| [19:04:40] | uh992k: | I know it can display the directory tree |
| [19:04:51] | uh992k: | but why does it have to load all directories and subdirectories in order to do so? |
| [19:05:00] | uh992k: | it takes 30sec on my machine and that's way too long |
| [19:05:04] | uh992k: | mythgallery is perfect |
| [19:05:19] | wagnerrp: | nonsense, takes me mere seconds to load my video gallery with several thousand videos |
| [19:05:33] | uh992k: | I assume, you have stronger hardware |
| [19:05:51] | wagnerrp: | last i opened it, was on a 7yr old 1.8GHz Opteron |
| [19:06:07] | uh992k: | never tried it on an atom? |
| [19:06:33] | uh992k: | but to come back to the point ... things like that can be programmed more efficiently |
| [19:06:41] | uh992k: | why scan all directories at the start? |
| [19:07:29] | uh992k: | mythgallery does make it better, so that's the reason why I prefer it |
| [19:07:41] | wagnerrp: | because its simpler to just do a full database query at once and build the tree structure then, than try to incrementally build metadata based views on demand |
| [19:08:12] | wagnerrp: | at best, we could cache those directory views in the database to make subsequent access quicker |
| [19:08:16] | uh992k: | so, programming it like this is more convenient |
| [19:08:42] | wagnerrp: | well, no... programming it like this is more sensible |
| [19:08:42] | uh992k: | but mythtv is supposed to run on hardware with little power |
| [19:08:53] | uh992k: | isn't it? |
| [19:08:59] | wagnerrp: | and no, its really not |
| [19:09:15] | wagnerrp: | it _can_ run on hardware with little power, in _some_ scenarios |
| [19:09:32] | wagnerrp: | doesnt mean it was designed or optimized with that purpose in mind |
| [19:09:38] | bentech: | wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/knRLz2Ac |
| [19:09:58] | uh992k: | hmm ... prices for electricty seem to be a lot lower where you live :) |
| [19:10:09] | wagnerrp: | mythconverg.recordedseek doesnt exist? |
| [19:10:21] | wagnerrp: | uh992k: this atom is a dedicated frontend? |
| [19:10:38] | uh992k: | backend is also running on this machine |
| [19:11:31] | tgm4883: | well there's your problem |
| [19:11:34] | wagnerrp: | well then there really was just no forethought put into this thing then... |
| [19:11:54] | wagnerrp: | bentech: really more looking for what the webserver is listening on, port 6544 |
| [19:12:02] | wagnerrp: | which is flushed out below all those database errors |
| [19:12:10] | wagnerrp: | nevermind, it is there |
| [19:12:18] | wagnerrp: | "failed listening on tcp 127.0.0.1:6544" |
| [19:12:36] | wagnerrp: | so... either something else is already listening on port 6544 |
| [19:12:54] | wagnerrp: | or there is some strange issue with how Qt deals with proxies |
| [19:13:02] | wagnerrp: | if you have http_proxy set in your environment, unset it |
| [19:13:23] | ** wagnerrp prods iamlindoro to look up should he be checking the logs ** | |
| [19:14:03] | wagnerrp: | uh992k: even on an Atom, it shouldnt take you 30 seconds to load the video library from the database |
| [19:14:11] | bentech: | hmm |
| [19:14:15] | wagnerrp: | which only leads me to believe you are in fact NOT loading the video library from the database |
| [19:14:22] | wagnerrp: | but are instead in video browse mode |
| [19:14:24] | uh992k: | sure it does ... mysql is very slow and even slower on an atom |
| [19:14:35] | uh992k: | scanning my videos would have taken 10hrs! |
| [19:14:41] | wagnerrp: | but mysql isnt doing much of anything |
| [19:14:48] | wagnerrp: | all youre doing is blindly reading the list |
| [19:14:55] | uh992k: | but why does it consume >50% of my cpu? |
| [19:14:59] | wagnerrp: | theres no processing or filtering going on, just data lookup |
| [19:15:07] | wagnerrp: | when opening the video library? |
| [19:15:14] | uh992k: | yes |
| [19:15:17] | wagnerrp: | is it user load, or system load? |
| [19:15:28] | uh992k: | don't know ... |
| [19:15:40] | uh992k: | I wiped the database and stopped using mythvideo |
| [19:15:52] | wagnerrp: | well how did you know it was using 50% (one core) |
| [19:16:03] | uh992k: | top told me |
| [19:16:15] | wagnerrp: | and top also told you what type of CPU usage |
| [19:16:18] | wagnerrp: | third line at the top |
| [19:16:35] | uh992k: | I can't recall it ... it's been 2 weeks ago |
| [19:16:40] | wagnerrp: | if its primarily 'us', then mysql is doing god knows what for processing |
| [19:16:54] | ** tgm4883 sighs ** | |
| [19:16:57] | wagnerrp: | if its 'sy', chances are mysql is blocked for some strange reason due to ext4 and Barrier waits |
| [19:17:32] | uh992k: | but, if it was faster, I don't like mythvideo ... personal taste |
| [19:17:36] | uh992k: | mythgallery is perfect^^ |
| [19:18:10] | uh992k: | I just recompiled it with .mp3 endings :) |
| [19:18:34] | wagnerrp: | well the near term plan, likely 0.26, is to revise mythgallery to use storage groups and cache content lists in the database, just like the video library |
| [19:18:41] | wagnerrp: | putting you right back in the same position |
| [19:18:50] | uh992k: | :( |
| [19:19:28] | wagnerrp: | everything is moving to storage groups to allow it to be accessed from any machine |
| [19:19:44] | wagnerrp: | and its much faster to query a database once, than poll through all connected machines on a cluster |
| [19:20:00] | uh992k: | probably you are right |
| [19:20:33] | wagnerrp: | when building more complex trees based off the video or image metadata |
| [19:20:56] | wagnerrp: | its a whole lot cheaper in the long run to try to build that tree once, than try to do it incrementally as you move through the tree |
| [19:21:04] | wagnerrp: | best we could do is cache those views |
| [19:21:20] | wagnerrp: | and flush, or potentially rebuild, them when the content is rescanned |
| [19:21:24] | uh992k: | this caching mechanism doesn't exist yet? |
| [19:21:50] | wagnerrp: | not at current, as to be honest, the database performance has never been an issue |
| [19:22:36] | uh992k: | hmm ... I hate rescanning things ... in my personal view it's use- and senseless ... I know exactly where my files are and I tried mythmusic with all my mp3s in the database and I couldn't use it because I didn't find anything again |
| [19:22:54] | wagnerrp: | the plan is you wouldnt rescan things |
| [19:23:17] | wagnerrp: | the media monitor would detect the insertion of new portable media and trigger a rescan on its own |
| [19:23:30] | uh992k: | hmm k, this sounds quite good |
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| [19:23:40] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: didnt you actually do something externally in that regard a couple months back? |
| [19:24:14] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: theres an open ticket documenting that if a user has HTTP_PROXY defined in their environment, Qt does bad things and prevents us from binding to those ports |
| [19:24:21] | tgm4883: | I have a python script that will detect new media added and add it to the db |
| [19:24:24] | wagnerrp: | unset that, and the problem goes away |
| [19:24:44] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: right, but it wasnt a dumb scheduled scan, it was something with inotify right? |
| [19:24:46] | iamlindoro: | bentech: I see from the logs of this channel the last little bit that it looks like you have a binding error on your backend for the API/HTTP server-- any luck getting that sorted out? If, by chance, you are the guy who left a one star review just now, I really am happy to help you, you are welcome to e-mail or PM |
| [19:24:50] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, yep |
| [19:25:01] | iamlindoro: | bentech: wagnerrp's suggestion above (and again just now) is possibly your issue |
| [19:25:05] | uh992k: | tgm4883: does your script use inode notification? or just scanning? |
| [19:25:18] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Any plan to work around it? |
| [19:25:35] | tgm4883: | uh992k, it connects with inotify and tells the backend to add the media |
| [19:25:40] | tgm4883: | it's not a scan |
| [19:25:42] | uh992k: | nice |
| [19:25:46] | bentech: | I'm trying to look into it |
| [19:25:50] | uh992k: | that's the way it should be :) |
| [19:25:51] | bentech: | im not really sure what's going on |
| [19:26:13] | wagnerrp: | plans to do so? yes... plans on how to do so? not at all... :) |
| [19:26:18] | iamlindoro: | bentech: Are you the reviewer? No harm done if so, but if we can get your backend problem fixed I hope you'll consider revising it (since it's not the app's fault) |
| [19:27:03] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, i have zero practical knowledge of proxies, never had the need or desire to use one |
| [19:27:42] | tgm4883: | bentech, is uses inotify and waits for something to be added or removed from the videos SG |
| [19:27:58] | tgm4883: | and by bentech, I mean uh992k |
| [19:28:00] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: I don't see an attempt to bind the BE HTTP Server against an actual routable address in his log, but 6543 binds fine-- any ideas on that? |
| [19:28:42] | wagnerrp: | might be the HTTP server actually attempts to use the proxy setting, while the protocol server does not |
| [19:28:49] | uh992k: | tgm4883: that sounds interesting |
| [19:29:02] | wagnerrp: | however IIRC, the ticket on trac has to do with the control socket in the frontend |
| [19:29:03] | tgm4883: | uh992k, it also triggers a metadata lookup |
| [19:29:14] | wagnerrp: | which AFAIK should be similarly ignorant of proxy configurations |
| [19:29:18] | iamlindoro: | Table 'mythconverg.recordedseek' doesn't exist <-- well that's unrelated, but not a good thing |
| [19:29:22] | tgm4883: | uh992k, it does not work with NFS mounts though, as inotify doesn't seem to know about stuff added there |
| [19:29:33] | tgm4883: | I've not tested with smb mounts either |
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| [19:29:35] | wagnerrp: | yeah, at best a crashed table, at worst a broken schema |
| [19:30:26] | wagnerrp: | whats that database optimization program? |
| [19:30:33] | iamlindoro: | optimize_mythdb.pl |
| [19:30:36] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [19:30:50] | wagnerrp: | i believe that will fix broken tables |
| [19:30:56] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, it should |
| [19:30:58] | wagnerrp: | or at least report them |
| [19:31:05] | tgm4883: | there is also mysqltuner, that will just give recommendations on db changes |
| [19:31:15] | iamlindoro: | usually if the table is crashed, that's what the error says, though |
| [19:31:20] | iamlindoro: | not "doesn't exist" |
| [19:34:54] | ** wagnerrp gets out his ban hammer and starts pounding on the wiki ** | |
| [19:37:54] | SteveGoodey: | wagnerrp: Is it not poss. to moderate new wiki users for a while? |
| [19:38:25] | wagnerrp: | you know, youre the second person to mention that in two days |
| [19:38:36] | wagnerrp: | just havent spent enough time to find a plugin i like yet |
| [19:39:46] | bentech: | iamlindoro: Yeah i fell bad about my rating, i changed it now |
| [19:39:52] | bentech: | sorry ;( |
| [19:40:03] | iamlindoro: | bentech: no worries, but let's make sure we get you working too ;) |
| [19:40:16] | bentech: | yeah just finishing something quick |
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| [19:48:41] | uh992k: | is there a torrent-downloading-plugin for mythtv? :) |
| [19:50:09] | Shadow__X: | theres a schedule all your shows plugin |
| [19:50:27] | Shadow__X: | schedule to record all your shows plugin * |
| [19:50:45] | uh992k: | uhm ... can it download torrents?^^ |
| [19:52:03] | uh992k: | perhaps I should change my question ... does someone know a good torrent-downloader with web-frontend? |
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| [19:54:45] | Shadow__X: | there is not a plugin that i know of for torrents on mythtv. look at transmission that might have a web frontend |
| [19:57:41] | bentech: | iamlindoro: i checked the log and it says Listening on TCP 192.168.0.37:6543 but still doesn't work if i enter that |
| [19:57:54] | iamlindoro: | bentech: 6543 isn't the HTTP/API port |
| [19:57:58] | iamlindoro: | that's mythproto |
| [19:58:04] | bentech: | oh |
| [19:58:17] | iamlindoro: | your issue is that the backend isn't binding on 6544, which is the API/HTTP port-- we want to get to the bottom of why that's failing |
| [19:58:32] | iamlindoro: | In your pastebin, that's these lines: |
| [19:58:32] | iamlindoro: | 2012-05–12 20:02:44.061873 E Failed listening on TCP 127.0.0.1:6544 |
| [19:58:33] | iamlindoro: | 2012-05–12 20:02:44.061925 E MediaServer::HttpServer Create Error |
| [19:58:56] | iamlindoro: | Did you check to see if HTTP_PROXY is set on your system? If so, can you try unsetting it? |
| [19:59:17] | bentech: | where would i check that? |
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| [19:59:49] | iamlindoro: | you can do: |
| [19:59:54] | iamlindoro: | echo $HTTP_PROXY |
| [20:00:05] | bentech: | gives a blank line |
| [20:00:44] | iamlindoro: | OK, so no HTTP Proxy set-- in the absence of that I'll have to turn you over to wagnerrp as he's the chief when it comes to HTTP binding. I don't know this code and it's changed somewhat since I was involved |
| [20:00:52] | iamlindoro: | s/http binding/IP binding/ |
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| [20:02:22] | iamlindoro: | bentech: if you go into mythtv-setup, and go to "1. General" can you take a screenshot of the IP settings page? |
| [20:04:42] | bentech: | here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/454062/Screen%20Shot% . . . 21.04.07.png |
| [20:05:24] | iamlindoro: | It certainly looks OK to me-- wagnerrp, any ideas? |
| [20:10:20] | bentech: | hmm i found the process with lsof -i that was using the port and killed it now i get http://pastebin.com/vyXq1udu |
| [20:10:44] | tgm4883: | iamlindoro, in the back of my brain I think I remember people having an issue with anything in the IPv6 area |
| [20:11:17] | iamlindoro: | bentech: That looks much better! Try going back into the app and re-tapping the backend in the settings page |
| [20:11:21] | iamlindoro: | and then check the dashboard |
| [20:11:30] | bentech: | yay! |
| [20:11:32] | iamlindoro: | oh wait |
| [20:11:37] | iamlindoro: | until I see further down |
| [20:11:58] | iamlindoro: | 2012-05–12 21:08:48.576349 E MythSocket(9fdf788:54): Protocol error: 'GET /Dvr' is not a valid size prefix. 259 bytes pending. That doesn't look good-- are you sure you have the app set to the right port? |
| [20:12:07] | bentech: | it works now |
| [20:12:11] | iamlindoro: | It looks like you have it set to talk to 6543 instead of 6544... |
| [20:12:15] | iamlindoro: | well.. ok ;) |
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| [20:12:21] | iamlindoro: | Hey, just so long as it works I guess |
| [20:12:25] | bentech: | :D, i should have looked what the process was before killing it |
| [20:12:44] | iamlindoro: | ok, great |
| [20:12:58] | iamlindoro: | Glad to hear that it wasn't something too earth-shattering to fix |
| [20:13:57] | bentech: | wow it's really good |
| [20:14:01] | bentech: | steaming works well |
| [20:14:12] | bentech: | hmm, it did just stop |
| [20:14:15] | bentech: | maybe weak wifi |
| [20:14:34] | bentech: | ill try my 5ghz network |
| [20:15:31] | iamlindoro: | bentech: Streaming requires massive amounts of backend CPU |
| [20:15:48] | iamlindoro: | if you really are running the backend on an atom, I wouldn't expect you'll be able to do more than 224p… if that |
| [20:17:20] | bentech: | ha both cores flat out |
| [20:17:41] | iamlindoro: | One core is decoding, the other is encoding.. or at least it's trying ;) |
| [20:17:49] | bentech: | it does alright |
| [20:18:32] | Shadow__X: | whats the recommended cpu for a backend now :) |
| [20:18:33] | iamlindoro: | In your case what you can do is start a playback, pause it, and walk away if it starts to get behind |
| [20:19:20] | bentech: | well i can't stream my avatar blueray to iPad….! better upgrade my cpu |
| [20:21:35] | iamlindoro: | bentech: To address how to get support, by the by, There's a link in the store for the app that gets you to the support page, and my e-mail is on that page… It's just me doing the app so I can't say I'll get back to you in minutes, but I'll certainly get back to you ASAP |
| [20:22:31] | iamlindoro: | Shadow__X: Well I want to dump my Q600 since it's too slow for 720p…. so I guess an i7? ;) |
| [20:22:40] | iamlindoro: | er Q6600 |
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| [20:23:05] | bentech: | yeah ivybridge |
| [20:23:07] | Shadow__X: | i have an e8400 right now so i know i need to upgrade |
| [20:23:23] | bentech: | can i set the channel from the guide? |
| [20:23:44] | Shadow__X: | i am wondering if a quad i7 would make sense or a six core i7 would make more sense (have enough cpu for commflagging+streaming+more) |
| [20:23:51] | iamlindoro: | bentech: No, unfortunately that is only available through the API in Torc and not in MythTV |
| [20:24:01] | bentech: | fair enough |
| [20:24:51] | bentech: | Seriously though get a ivy bridge as they have a built in gpu it uses for video transcoding |
| [20:25:36] | Shadow__X: | i dont think there is an open source project with quicksync support yet |
| [20:26:01] | bentech: | http://www.anandtech.com/show/5771/the-intel- . . . k-review/21# |
| [20:26:10] | bentech: | that is the cpu doing it on these reviews |
| [20:27:02] | bentech: | more future proof as someone may well do a open source version |
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| [20:28:11] | bentech: | what is this torc anyway?, isn't it just the app? |
| [20:28:59] | iamlindoro: | bentech: Probably best not mentioned in this channel, it's a fork of MythTV. You can get more information in #torc |
| [20:29:17] | iamlindoro: | (which is not me trying to convince you to do so, merely mentioning that it's probably not welcomed here) |
| [20:35:27] | Shadow__X: | is airvideo supposed to work on the .25 frontend too? |
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| [21:26:40] | wagnerrp: | bentech: so problem solved? |
| [21:26:53] | bentech: | yes thanks |
| [21:27:17] | wagnerrp: | ok, otherwise i was going to have you upgrade to 0.25-fixes, rather than what is presumably a release version |
| [21:27:37] | wagnerrp: | a couple weeks back, i altered that error to actually give the sockets error code |
| [21:27:43] | wagnerrp: | to see specifically why it was failing |
| [21:28:09] | bentech: | ah, i have the mythbuntu repo i thought i would have 0.25-fixed |
| [21:28:26] | wagnerrp: | seems you do not have it configured to |
| [21:28:44] | wagnerrp: | as the commit im talking about went in three weeks ago |
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| [21:36:28] | konstantink: | hey guys :) I'm having some issues with "mythbuntu". Basically, I'm trying to setup mythbackened and would like to use my (working) channels.conf. However, when doing "channel scan" via import, mythbackened finds the channels, gets a lock, but right afterwards it tells me "XX unused transports found" and I end up with no channels at all. Where did I mess up? |
| [21:37:02] | wagnerrp: | you tried to use an existing channels.conf |
| [21:37:06] | wagnerrp: | use mythtv's internal scanner |
| [21:37:20] | konstantink: | the that takes forever? |
| [21:37:25] | konstantink: | *the one |
| [21:37:56] | wagnerrp: | no it doesnt, it takes a couple minutes |
| [21:37:57] | konstantink: | alright, I'll give it a try. Thanks for the quick reply. |
| [21:38:09] | wagnerrp: | it takes not significantly longer and scan did to build your channels.conf |
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| [21:45:44] | konstantink: | it's at 25% :( |
| [21:45:50] | konstantink: | you did mean the "Full Scan", right? |
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| [21:50:15] | wagnerrp: | where are you located, and why type of tuner? |
| [21:50:41] | wagnerrp: | *what |
| [21:51:35] | konstantink: | germany, the brand of the pci-card is terratec |
| [21:51:47] | konstantink: | I don't know if that's what you're asking for |
| [21:51:54] | wagnerrp: | DVB-T? |
| [21:51:56] | wizbit: | has anybody here ever experienced a sluggish frontend |
| [21:51:57] | konstantink: | yes |
| [21:51:58] | wagnerrp: | DVB-S? |
| [21:52:02] | konstantink: | dvb-t |
| [21:52:26] | konstantink: | (with an active antenna. tv works fine under me-tv and mplayer with the mentioned channels.conf) |
| [21:52:38] | wagnerrp: | as i understand it, each transponder is supposed to identify all other transponders in the area |
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| [21:53:09] | wagnerrp: | and you is some scanning option that lets you pick all that up from a pre-tuned tuner |
| [21:53:15] | wagnerrp: | s/you/there/ |
| [21:56:38] | konstantink: | I am not sure if I'm following. Is a full scan required then? Or can I use that option and speed up the whole scanning process (60%) |
| [21:57:12] | Shadow__X: | wizbit: slow as in what? menus are slow? playback etc |
| [21:57:15] | wagnerrp: | dekarl1: good point, i do know that a number of companies are actually selling things as a ready-to-go VM image |
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| [21:58:15] | wizbit: | Shadow__X: yep slow menus |
| [21:58:26] | wagnerrp: | only... mythtv is not one of them, and im not aware of any packager doing so either |
| [21:58:27] | wizbit: | if i hit watch tv, longer than usual delays |
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| [22:00:54] | earthw0rm: | Evening |
| [22:00:57] | earthw0rm: | I set the radio times to be the tv guide for my freeview input on mythtv but there's nothing in the tv guide |
| [22:01:06] | earthw0rm: | What might I have done wrong? |
| [22:01:30] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: makes sense, but a backend that pipes 3–4 HD streams from satelite via virtual PCI and back via virtual ext4 in a file on another filesystem on crappy (measured in IOPS) consumer hardware? |
| [22:01:39] | wagnerrp: | well mythfilldatabase does have to run on the xmltv data to import it into the database |
| [22:01:52] | dekarl: | I'd love Mythbuntu to be the MythTV appliance. But its not there yet :( |
| [22:02:13] | earthw0rm: | wagnerrp: I ran that I thought ... |
| [22:02:17] | wagnerrp: | im not aware if its designed for mythfilldatabase to pull directly, or if you download a file and feed it into mythfilldatabase |
| [22:02:42] | earthw0rm: | Should you run it while the backend is still going? |
| [22:02:44] | wagnerrp: | when you "set the radio times to be the tv guide", you mean you gave mythfilldatabse that script to run? |
| [22:02:51] | wagnerrp: | doesnt matter |
| [22:03:12] | wagnerrp: | virtual PCI? oh for shame... |
| [22:03:13] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [22:03:42] | dekarl: | But all the cool kips do it! |
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| [22:03:47] | dekarl: | s/kips/kids/ |
| [22:03:49] | earthw0rm: | In the mythtv-setup GUI, you choose your capture card, then you choose the channel sources or something? I selected it in there |
| [22:04:31] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: and thats EXACTLY what ive been trying to explain on the mailing list to these people |
| [22:05:02] | dekarl: | earthw0rm: the wiki has some hints http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Uk_xmltv#RECOMMENDED |
| [22:05:03] | wagnerrp: | theyre all doing it just because "well thats what everyone does", and dont understand why everyone is doing it that way, to make an informed decision on why they might want to do it that way |
| [22:05:26] | earthw0rm: | dekarl: Great, thanks mate |
| [22:05:35] | wagnerrp: | but no, im just a ranting zealot who should be ignored... |
| [22:06:06] | Shadow__X: | dekarl: you could do pci passthrough |
| [22:06:07] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: thats easy, everyone has to cope with trained monkeys and still get the job done somehow (doesnt matter of them being coworkers, supporters or external professionals) |
| [22:06:42] | dekarl: | Shadow__X: sure, but its going to be lots of fun when the drivers have a hard time of working 24/7 without added latencies and whatnot :( |
| [22:06:59] | dekarl: | Shadow__X: I can also drill a hole in my knee, doesn't mean I should do it ;) |
| [22:07:04] | Shadow__X: | yup |
| [22:07:12] | Shadow__X: | unless you have fluid :) |
| [22:07:22] | dekarl: | :) |
| [22:07:26] | wagnerrp: | drilling a hole through my head would have worked if you hadnt stopped me |
| [22:07:50] | Shadow__X: | but yeah i agree from the little i have read. Especially the part about consumer hardware |
| [22:07:52] | earthw0rm: | Btw, how does mythtv know how to log into my mysql database? |
| [22:08:07] | Shadow__X: | ie your telling me a low end system wont just work perfectly? |
| [22:08:10] | wagnerrp: | you told it, in your config.xml |
| [22:08:10] | dekarl: | but drilling a hole in your head will sometimes save your life, so its a good tool in the toolbox of mankind, just as is VM ;) |
| [22:08:36] | wagnerrp: | i dare say drilling a hole in your own head will never save your life |
| [22:08:54] | wagnerrp: | that whole "accuracy" issue :P |
| [22:09:04] | earthw0rm: | wagnerrp: So, I should have added them when using mythtv-setup |
| [22:09:26] | earthw0rm: | Will go back and check they are in there, can't remember having done that |
| [22:09:32] | dekarl: | Shadow__X: I have a hard time to get my master backend to "just work" without losing packets on one tuner when its sister tuner changes channels |
| [22:09:39] | linuxtech: | The quality of the recording in .25 doesn't seem to be quite as good as earlier versions, ie I notice visual blocks. And the high quality encoding of the transcode is much worse than it used to be. This is a PVR-500 card. I also upgraded the mythbuntu from 10.04 to 12.04 right after the upgrade, so it could be related to a newer ivtv module. Do you have any suggestions for improving the visual quality, would |
| [22:09:39] | linuxtech: | changing settings for the transcoder help? ie. check boxes Enable 4MV encoding, Enable interlaced DCT encoding or Enable interlaced motion estimation? |
| [22:09:39] | wagnerrp: | earthw0rm: added what? |
| [22:10:19] | earthw0rm: | Login details for the mysql database |
| [22:10:24] | konstantink: | full scan: done after 36 minutes. but it worked. Thanks wagnerrp ! |
| [22:10:35] | Shadow__X: | dekarl: hmm i dont have those issues but mine is all native no vm here |
| [22:10:50] | wagnerrp: | earthw0rm: the first time you ran mythtv-setup, the first thing it did was ask you language |
| [22:10:59] | wagnerrp: | the second thing it did was ask you login credentials for your database |
| [22:11:02] | dekarl: | Shadow__X: its only nasty when you have the active EIT scan tuning all the time :) |
| [22:11:17] | Shadow__X: | earthw0rm: did you use a mythtv distro? |
| [22:11:34] | Shadow__X: | dekarl: i pay for my listings mister |
| [22:11:35] | wagnerrp: | you dont touch the files manually, the various applications popup that UI to ask you them, and populate the file automatically |
| [22:11:59] | dekarl: | Shadow__X: It depends on your kind of hardware and most importantly driver quality. devin can tell stories of that |
| [22:12:15] | earthw0rm: | Fedora 17 LXDE spin, and followed this ... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Installing_MythTV_ . . . #Setup_MySQL |
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| [22:12:42] | dekarl: | Shadow__X: SD and most devs residing in the US is one of the reasons that EIT doesnt work as well as it could... there just isnt much incentive to improve it :D |
| [22:13:19] | dekarl: | over here with 28 days of good data OTA its not so bad |
| [22:13:55] | Shadow__X: | dekarl: well i tried eit at one point but i dont use ota so eit doesnt really help me |
| [22:14:44] | dekarl: | its 28 days on cable and satelite, too. (for the public channels, the DRM channels "only" provide 4 days of acceptable data) |
| [22:15:05] | Shadow__X: | i did not know that |
| [22:15:26] | earthw0rm: | wagnerrp: I remember getting asked language, but not DB credentials |
| [22:16:03] | earthw0rm: | Should I have created a mythtv DB user? I did run mythtv-docs-0.24.1/database/mc.sql |
| [22:16:12] | earthw0rm: | Well, the .25 version |
| [22:16:50] | earthw0rm: | I suppose mythtv wouldn't be doing anything though if I hadn't set the DB up right, yet I can actually watch TV through it |
| [22:16:51] | wagnerrp: | mc.sql automatically generates a mythtv user, with the password 'mythtv' |
| [22:17:03] | earthw0rm: | Ah |
| [22:17:16] | wagnerrp: | thats what that 'grant' call is |
| [22:17:23] | [R]: | wagnerrp: what does mythconverg stand for? |
| [22:17:46] | wagnerrp: | 'mythical convergence' i presume |
| [22:17:49] | dekarl: | [R]: Mythical Convergence? |
| [22:18:02] | [R]: | rofl |
| [22:18:07] | earthw0rm: | Okay, so the DB is there, if I changed the password, where would I add a new setting in mythtv, or would mythtv-setup ask for a new password if it couldn't get in? |
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| [22:18:45] | dekarl: | just guessing based on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Introduction "I want the mythical convergence box that's been talked about for a few years now." |
| [22:19:07] | wagnerrp: | earthw0rm: changed how? |
| [22:19:23] | earthw0rm: | To something other than the default |
| [22:19:33] | wagnerrp: | no, how did you change it? |
| [22:19:43] | earthw0rm: | I haven't, just thinking I should |
| [22:20:02] | earthw0rm: | Security like :) |
| [22:20:08] | wagnerrp: | its only a problem if someone gets on your network |
| [22:20:21] | wagnerrp: | and if they get on your network, there is absolutely zero security on the backend protocol |
| [22:20:32] | wagnerrp: | even without access to the database, they can destroy all sorts of crap |
| [22:20:51] | earthw0rm: | Okay |
| [22:21:06] | earthw0rm: | So, it's not database access that's breaking my TV listings then ... |
| [22:21:12] | wagnerrp: | change it if you like, better to just make sure it cannot be accessed from the internet |
| [22:21:59] | earthw0rm: | I might do in the future then, want to just get mythtv working properly for now |
| [22:22:29] | wagnerrp: | mythtv accesses that file from ~/.mythtv/config.xml |
| [22:22:41] | wagnerrp: | assuming the backend runs mythfilldatabase automatically |
| [22:22:49] | wagnerrp: | or you run it manually from the same account that runs mythbackend |
| [22:22:59] | wagnerrp: | database access should not be a problem |
| [22:24:08] | earthw0rm: | Ah, I was running the backend as root ... |
| [22:24:32] | earthw0rm: | But running the setup and front end as my mythtv user |
| [22:24:53] | wagnerrp: | eeew |
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| [22:26:07] | earthw0rm: | I know, oops |
| [22:26:22] | earthw0rm: | Maybe that will help me see some listings if I run the backend properly :D |
| [22:28:01] | earthw0rm: | Nope, everything still says unknown |
| [22:28:22] | wagnerrp: | well its certainly not doing anything if it ran that fast |
| [22:28:58] | earthw0rm: | What ran so fast? |
| [22:29:27] | wagnerrp: | you responded in only two minutes |
| [22:30:13] | earthw0rm: | Does it take a while to pull the channel guide in the background? |
| [22:32:41] | earthw0rm: | Ah, running mythfilldatabase as mythtvuser is taking a bit longer :D |
| [22:33:55] | Shadow__X: | mythfilldatabase takes a bit to pull in listing information |
| [22:34:10] | earthw0rm: | It took a while that time |
| [22:34:27] | earthw0rm: | I just went on there again though and there was still nothing in the EPG |
| [22:37:03] | tgm4883: | dekarl, problems? |
| [22:38:31] | wagnerrp: | probably looking for something like the old knoppmyth where there was a bootable iso |
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| [22:39:49] | tgm4883: | mythbuntu has a bootable iso |
| [22:40:48] | wagnerrp: | bootable or installable? |
| [22:40:57] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, both? |
| [22:41:01] | tgm4883: | define bootable |
| [22:41:28] | wagnerrp: | you put the CD in, and two minutes later with no user intervention, it is running mythfrontend connected to a backend somewhere on the network |
| [22:41:47] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, well you have to input the PIN, but yes we have that |
| [22:41:55] | wagnerrp: | ah, was not aware |
| [22:43:39] | dekarl: | tgm4883: not at the moment, but the list posts suggest I should plan a day or two for the upgrade to 12.04 LTS ^^ the only issues I have are dvb card issues that have nothing to do with Mythbuntu and that none of lossless trancodes doesnt like me anymore (havent had time to dig into that yet :( |
| [22:44:20] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: perhaps is more of your content h264? |
| [22:45:16] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: no, it stopped working in the middle of the master/0.25 cycle, around the time when I started messing with the table/packet stuff |
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| [22:45:38] | dekarl: | the content is plain old mpeg-2 video/audio in low bitrates |
| [22:45:57] | wagnerrp: | i would say to try the newly synced master |
| [22:46:10] | wagnerrp: | but i believe the lossless transcoding is done through a completely independent library |
| [22:47:09] | dekarl: | I have it on "the list", got to visit my new nephew first ;) |
| [22:47:57] | dekarl: | btw, if someone is into covers, the coverart archive from IA/MB is working now, might be nice to extend the album art grabber to use it |
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| [22:49:20] | ** dekarl_zZz hits sack, 1am already ** | |
| [22:50:00] | wizbit: | is there a such thing as a female mythtv user? |
| [22:50:23] | tgm4883: | ? |
| [22:50:43] | tgm4883: | My wife is a female mythtv user |
| [22:50:58] | ** wagnerrp suggests wizbit leaves his basement ** | |
| [22:51:00] | dekarl_zZz: | wizbit: lots of little girls handle mythtv very well |
| [22:51:13] | wizbit: | haha yes, remote control operators |
| [22:51:16] | earthw0rm: | My Mrs thinks we should have stuck with PlayTV so far, but if I get these TV listings working we'll see |
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| [22:51:37] | wagnerrp: | i still dont understand how playtv hasnt been sued out of business |
| [22:52:16] | dekarl_zZz: | you are not talking about Play-TV the Sony Playstation DVB-T dongle? |
| [22:52:46] | earthw0rm: | Yeah, that and the software on the PS3 to go with it |
| [22:52:58] | earthw0rm: | I'm trying to use the hardware on a Fedora box |
| [22:53:02] | wagnerrp: | oh, im thinking of PlayOn |
| [22:53:05] | earthw0rm: | With Mythtv ... |
| [22:53:32] | wagnerrp: | PlayOn is a piece of software that grabs all sorts of DRM'd content off the internet, strips the DRM, and pumps it back out over UPNP |
| [22:53:36] | Shadow__D: | wagnerrp: yeah, i agree. The first time i read about that i wasn't sure how long it would be around |
| [22:53:47] | dekarl_zZz: | night mates |
| [22:53:52] | wagnerrp: | night |
| [22:54:13] | earthw0rm: | I'm running the mythfilldatabase script again |
| [22:54:14] | Shadow__D: | night |
| [22:55:02] | earthw0rm: | I can see it's trying to update things, and it's not finding a match for things like Sky Movies that I havne't got anyway |
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| [22:55:27] | wagnerrp: | did you ever set your XMLTV IDs? |
| [22:55:50] | earthw0rm: | How do I do that? |
| [22:56:05] | wagnerrp: | channel editor |
| [22:56:07] | earthw0rm: | Is that some mapping from listings IDs to IDs from freeview? |
| [22:56:18] | wagnerrp: | something like that |
| [22:56:28] | earthw0rm: | Hmm |
| [22:56:29] | wagnerrp: | its how mythfilldatabase actually knows what data to insert for each channel |
| [22:56:35] | earthw0rm: | Okay |
| [22:56:55] | earthw0rm: | Sounds fiddly, I thought it'd just do that magically somehow, matching strings or something |
| [22:57:36] | Shadow__D: | so without the id's the listing info will not be filled |
| [22:58:33] | earthw0rm: | Makes it tempting to just use the over the air freeview ones, even though they won't be as good |
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| [23:06:42] | earthw0rm: | How do I know if mythtvfilldatabase is doing anything? |
| [23:06:48] | earthw0rm: | Is it usually verbose? |
| [23:07:08] | earthw0rm: | I think it might have crashed |
| [23:07:14] | [R]: | run it with verbose options |
| [23:10:52] | earthw0rm: | Oooh, I have some program information |
| [23:13:54] | earthw0rm: | So, can I get it to pick up the over the air TV guide as well for TV channels that it can't find anything for from the Radio Times? |
| [23:16:45] | wagnerrp: | you should not enable both on a single channel |
| [23:16:51] | wagnerrp: | but you can mix them per source |
| [23:17:22] | k-man: | i don't seem to be able to play airplay video any more |
| [23:17:28] | k-man: | audio works but no video |
| [23:18:33] | earthw0rm: | wagnerrp: So I need to go to the set up program for every channel with no EPG and tell it to use the over the air stuff ... |
| [23:18:58] | k-man: | oh – do you still have to export that variable to enable video? |
| [23:19:08] | k-man: | i think i must have forgotten to do taht |
| [23:22:48] | k-man: | yeah that seems to be it |
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