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| [00:06:43] | ahhughes: | hey, I been looking around with not much luck. I want a video editor so that I can trim the start/end as well as delete sections from the middle of the video. Avidemux only does start / end. Cinerella might be the only option, but it seems very confusing :'( |
| [00:06:51] | ahhughes: | anyone got a suggestion? |
| [00:07:14] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend/mythtranscode? |
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| [00:44:12] | rhl: | Hi, I am building a computer which I want to have an FM Radio Tuner. I want to use a TV Tuner with FM Radio built in. Can anyone recommend any single PCI-E card which has this and works under linux? Bonus points if it is ~$30 |
| [00:44:45] | sphery: | rhl: fwiw, MythTV has no support (yet) for FM radio |
| [00:45:05] | sphery: | one dev has been playing with it on his system, though, and may integrate something into MythTV |
| [00:45:19] | sphery: | until then, you'd need an external app for it |
| [00:45:23] | rhl: | sphery: thats ok, I dont want to use mythtv, I'm looking for people with the hardware. |
| [00:45:30] | Technophil: | Unless of course its broadcast as DVB-T |
| [00:45:34] | rhl: | i'm trying to build a car-pc. |
| [00:45:49] | rhl: | and I want to buy the appropriate FM Tuner card. |
| [00:45:59] | sphery: | our general answer would be: |
| [00:46:01] | sphery: | !url tuners |
| [00:46:01] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [00:46:15] | Technophil: | rhl: what country is this for? |
| [00:46:20] | rhl: | USA |
| [00:46:37] | sphery: | I can't provide much more than that (other than, "I used to have an FM radio tuner on my PVR-x50 cards") |
| [00:47:12] | rhl: | well. on that site. i click on radios |
| [00:47:37] | rhl: | and I get a list of drivers |
| [00:47:44] | Technophil: | rhl: I agree with your concept, I think it has merit to be able to pause and play particular broadcasts in a car. |
| [00:48:30] | rhl: | right. I mean, i dont care about mythtv. I want to go and purchase a card with FM Radio support, in which I can be sure the FM Radio bit works under linux |
| [00:48:47] | rhl: | and on that page it just lists chipsets of radio devices |
| [00:48:55] | rhl: | mostly incomplete. |
| [00:49:09] | rhl: | all links broken |
| [00:49:23] | rhl: | and I have no idea what radio chips are in your average hauppage |
| [00:49:45] | rhl: | Linux support for the WinTV-HVR-1600 |
| [00:49:45] | rhl: | Linux support for the WinTV-HVR-1600 is in the upcoming kernel 2.6.26 release. <-- from hauppage site, on the wrong card. |
| [00:50:09] | rhl: | Linux support for the WinTV-HVR-1800 is in process. When the WinTV-HVR-1800 is added to the growing list of over 30 supported Hauppauge products with Linux open source drivers, an entry will be made in the LinuxTV.ORG Wiki. <-- also on hauppage site, but from the 2.6.26 ref. this is clearly outdated. |
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| [01:00:26] | rhl: | ... hello? |
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| [01:03:04] | wagnerrp: | i doubt there any many users who still use radio, most newer tuners dont get radio support in the drivers |
| [01:03:15] | wagnerrp: | you might find better luck in #linuxtv |
| [01:03:18] | wagnerrp: | or.. |
| [01:03:19] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [01:03:20] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [01:03:53] | awalls: | HVR-1850 MCE would be a good bet for a PCIe card, but god knows if FM radio works in that linux driver. |
| [01:04:16] | awalls: | It would also be an expensive FM radio tuner. |
| [01:04:20] | wagnerrp: | of course, the #linuxtv people may not know anything about tuners either |
| [01:04:21] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [01:04:29] | wagnerrp: | s/tuners/radio tuners/ |
| [01:04:35] | awalls: | What's a tuna? |
| [01:04:47] | awalls: | :) |
| [01:05:10] | wagnerrp: | its a fish that you shove into your ear, it feeds off radio waves and excretes audible sound |
| [01:06:05] | awalls: | :) |
| [01:06:17] | awalls: | have to go. bye. |
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| [01:19:03] | wagnerrp: | channel count: 2134... seems a bit high |
| [01:22:16] | Beirdo: | I dunno aobut that |
| [01:22:31] | Beirdo: | is that on one or more sources? |
| [01:22:45] | wagnerrp: | likely multiple |
| [01:23:01] | Beirdo: | I think I'm over 1000 |
| [01:23:17] | Beirdo: | because I have two listing sets for directv... HD and SD |
| [01:23:17] | wagnerrp: | 17.9TB free for recordings, 18.6TB free for videos |
| [01:23:50] | Beirdo: | someone has too much money |
| [01:24:07] | wagnerrp: | could be a commercial user |
| [01:24:15] | Beirdo: | the database age one is garbage |
| [01:24:41] | wagnerrp: | i know there are a couple people in the 20+TB range, but i would expect those to be mostly full |
| [01:24:43] | Beirdo: | we should be trashing values < 0, and > the age of mythtv |
| [01:24:44] | wagnerrp: | garbage how? |
| [01:24:55] | Beirdo: | the minimum is negative age |
| [01:24:58] | wagnerrp: | ah, yeah... the negative age |
| [01:25:05] | Beirdo: | the maximum is frigging huge |
| [01:25:11] | Beirdo: | what units is that anyways? |
| [01:25:14] | wagnerrp: | its in seconds |
| [01:25:23] | wagnerrp: | referenced from the earliest entry in oldrecorded |
| [01:25:40] | Beirdo: | yeah, we should reject anything that predates mythtv's invention |
| [01:25:59] | wagnerrp: | which if you have a brand new database, with the nearest scheduled recording a week in the future |
| [01:26:06] | wagnerrp: | you end up with negative age |
| [01:26:08] | Beirdo: | would be 0 |
| [01:26:18] | Beirdo: | as there are no entries in oldrecorded yet |
| [01:26:29] | Beirdo: | no? |
| [01:26:38] | wagnerrp: | the scheduler adds entries prior to recording |
| [01:26:43] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [01:26:59] | Beirdo: | well, we should filter the numbers to make it sensible anyways :) |
| [01:27:16] | Beirdo: | the numbers there are ... um... meaningless as is |
| [01:28:01] | wagnerrp: | maximum age listed is 8yr 230 days |
| [01:28:03] | Beirdo: | as my memory from when I saw it an hour or two ago tells me |
| [01:28:12] | wagnerrp: | and considering mythtv is over 10yr old.... |
| [01:28:22] | Beirdo: | ummm |
| [01:29:05] | Beirdo: | not yet 10 years old |
| [01:29:14] | Beirdo: | we are short by around a week |
| [01:29:30] | Beirdo: | first commit was Fri May 3, 2002 |
| [01:29:44] | Beirdo: | [1] |
| [01:29:44] | MythLogBot: | SVN 1: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/ce7a5f62 |
| [01:29:47] | wagnerrp: | regardless, the oldest age is more than a year less that |
| [01:29:53] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [01:30:03] | Beirdo: | so that wouldn't get filtered anyways :) |
| [01:30:25] | Beirdo: | we need to have a birthday announcement on the third |
| [01:30:29] | Beirdo: | make it so :) |
| [01:30:50] | Beirdo: | knowing me, I'll forget |
| [01:30:51] | wagnerrp: | me? youre the one with a beard |
| [01:31:10] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:31:19] | Beirdo: | that's the day I leave for camping. |
| [01:31:23] | Beirdo: | I'll try to remember |
| [01:32:19] | Beirdo: | I may have a beard, but I don't have a lush head of hair, nor a Betazoid girlfriend. |
| [01:32:43] | Beirdo: | actually, when trimmed, that's about the beard I aim for. |
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| [01:37:11] | Beirdo: | BLARGH |
| [01:37:28] | Beirdo: | my brain flushed its contents |
| [01:37:40] | Beirdo: | and I had a great idea in there somewhere |
| [01:37:53] | wagnerrp: | i know the feeling |
| [01:38:15] | wagnerrp: | something about treking through the wilderness with your number one beard |
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| [01:41:03] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [01:41:19] | Beirdo: | still reminds me of Beavis & Butthead. |
| [01:41:27] | Beirdo: | "Number one, go take a number two!" |
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| [01:45:30] | wagnerrp: | heh heh |
| [01:45:33] | wagnerrp: | you said number two |
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| [03:18:29] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: just a thought, none of the notification interfaces were suitable for our use in the media monitor, correct? |
| [03:18:52] | wagnerrp: | what if we just periodically searched for changes in free space? |
| [03:18:57] | wagnerrp: | if free space changes, rescan |
| [03:19:14] | Beirdo: | I don't recall |
| [03:19:31] | Beirdo: | I don't think we want to be doing that though |
| [03:19:42] | wagnerrp: | i mean each system tried had some flaw or another |
| [03:19:46] | wagnerrp: | it wasnt just out of lack of effort |
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| [03:19:54] | Beirdo: | what if someone has a USB harddrive they are copying onto while mythtv were running |
| [03:20:00] | Beirdo: | that's a lot of rescanning |
| [03:20:17] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [03:20:24] | Beirdo: | every method we found has flaws |
| [03:21:23] | Beirdo: | might be worth a try |
| [03:21:50] | wagnerrp: | just plotting the demise of file browse mode |
| [03:21:51] | clever: | inotify and/or checking mtime on directorys didnt work well? |
| [03:22:17] | Beirdo: | inotify is not platform independent. It will not work. |
| [03:22:34] | clever: | Beirdo: and checking the mtime for only the directories? |
| [03:22:49] | Beirdo: | we support (unfortunately at times) more than just Linux |
| [03:23:03] | Beirdo: | and I wouldn't trust mtime farther than I can throw it |
| [03:23:58] | clever: | seems to work just fine so far for the c program i made last week |
| [03:24:14] | Beirdo: | yeah. In one very specific case |
| [03:24:16] | clever: | biggest surprise is that readdir() doesnt have file type for xfs |
| [03:24:29] | clever: | but ext2/3, xfs, and nfs handle mtime as i would expect them to |
| [03:25:11] | clever: | and what about just re-scanning one directory in a background thread when you actualy open it in file browse mode? |
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| [03:25:47] | wagnerrp: | we could make the scanner more intelligent and scoped as people moved around |
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| [03:47:03] | jya: | wagnerrp: for the record, the reason RAOP didn't work with iTunes wasn't due to an extra authentication step… and more to do with ACK packets not being in a format iTunes liked. |
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| [05:06:51] | jya: | jk90090: I know why there's audio issues during playback |
| [05:08:14] | jya: | the current design plays the audio segment in the order they are received. when you haven't received a packet and the system request a new one, when the missed packet arrived, it is placed at the back of the queue and will be played after what should have been a later packet |
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| [05:54:10] | k-man: | jya, cripes, how did you manage to track that down jya? |
| [05:54:30] | jya: | lots of logs :P |
| [05:55:20] | k-man: | awesome |
| [05:55:20] | jya: | k-man: I committed a change earlier today to airplay that make playing via itunes work, I know you had tried to before, you may want to give it a shot. the change will apply to fixes/0.25 fine |
| [05:55:38] | k-man: | jya, no, not me – i'm not on .25 yet |
| [05:56:27] | k-man: | i'd be glad to try it once i upgrade to .25 but i'm a bit pressed for time at the moment |
| [05:56:39] | k-man: | i tried in sunday night but didn't get to start until 10:00 pm |
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| [06:13:14] | lautriv: | backend-status tells me "searching metadata" for 2 recordings in job-queue, what happend ? |
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| [13:36:22] | KaZeR: | hi there |
| [13:36:42] | KaZeR: | i'm having issues trying to set up a secondary backend : MythSocket(7f3ec000ea90:59): readStringList: Error, timed out after 30000 ms. |
| [13:36:51] | KaZeR: | any thoughts on that? thanks in advance |
| [13:40:42] | wagnerrp: | what version are you running? |
| [13:41:55] | KaZeR: | 0.25 |
| [13:42:13] | KaZeR: | both nodes are mythbuntu running latest updates |
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| [13:45:35] | wagnerrp: | you have them set to listen to accessible network addresses? (not 127.0.0.1) |
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| [13:50:33] | KaZeR: | wagnerrp, startup logs of both nodes : http://pastebin.com/ng0zYzFC |
| [13:50:48] | KaZeR: | both are listening on their lan ip address : Listening on TCP 192.168.1.54:6544 |
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| [13:54:01] | wagnerrp: | you wrote a personal xmltv grabber? |
| [13:54:19] | wagnerrp: | yeah yeah, that stuff is supposed to be anonymously collected... but you did name yourself in it... :) |
| [13:54:31] | wagnerrp: | http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/stats.html |
| [13:54:42] | wagnerrp: | last tab, about 3/4 of the way down |
| [13:56:40] | partoj: | wagnerrp: what kind of a grabber is '/bin/true' ? :) |
| [13:57:13] | wagnerrp: | no clue |
| [13:57:25] | wagnerrp: | or "1"? |
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| [13:58:47] | partoj: | ...and who has a channel count of 2134? |
| [13:59:21] | wagnerrp: | likely someone with both a large cable and large satellite |
| [13:59:28] | partoj: | yeah |
| [13:59:43] | wagnerrp: | or perhaps two large but ever-so-slightly not-overlapping lineups |
| [13:59:52] | partoj: | hehe |
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| [14:00:08] | wagnerrp: | like, a cablecard tuner that gets nearly everything, and an HDHR that does get everything |
| [14:00:16] | wagnerrp: | (HDHR Prime) |
| [14:00:22] | wagnerrp: | ermm... HDPVR |
| [14:01:41] | KaZeR: | wagnerrp, yeah i wrote a grabber, which is now included in the official xmltv release :) |
| [14:02:27] | KaZeR: | only one user registered? damn i'll have to ask my users to push their profile :) |
| [14:02:42] | wagnerrp: | i figured that one user was you |
| [14:03:21] | KaZeR: | it is, i did upload my own profile (the master backend + frontend) a few days ago |
| [14:04:11] | wagnerrp: | the whole submission process is still quite clumsy |
| [14:04:21] | wagnerrp: | in the process of cleaning things up presently |
| [14:05:19] | KaZeR: | ok |
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| [14:06:35] | KaZeR: | wagnerrp, i'll also ask the users from the french community to upload their profile if it helps. just let me know when you think the process isn't clumsy anymore :) |
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| [14:11:50] | wagnerrp: | and actually set the language/country properly |
| [14:12:13] | wagnerrp: | timezones dont lie, there arent 505 profiles currently in the US... :) |
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| [14:46:04] | KaZeR: | wagnerrp, hehe :) |
| [14:49:19] | KaZeR: | btw, i've checked using nc, both my nodes are accessible from my whole network on ports 6543 et 6544 |
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| [16:24:07] | wagnerrp: | noooo.... i686 users are catching up to x86_64 as more results slowly filter in... |
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| [17:38:38] | eye69: | I'm trying to import my channels.conf which has 192 channels in it (DVB-C), and the 0.25-fixes channel scanner finds a bunch of channels, but none of them seem to be added. |
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| [17:40:44] | eye69: | I ran 0.24-fixes earlier and have upgraded to 0.25-fixes. Maybe try a complete wipe of the db> |
| [17:40:47] | eye69: | ? |
| [17:41:38] | Oleg_: | mythtv 0.25 is still not in the freebsd ports collection |
| [17:42:29] | Oleg_: | if I decide to compile it myself, all I need is g++47 compiler, right? |
| [17:44:56] | justdave: | In case it hits anyone else, when I updated Ubuntu from 11.10 to 12.04 it auto-detected my video capture cards in the reverse order, and since they were different models all but one failed to work until I went into mythtv-setup and swapped the drivers around to match what got detected. |
| [17:45:19] | justdave: | probably won't bite you unless you have more than one *type* of capture device hooked up |
| [17:48:28] | Oleg_: | if I just type ./configure --cc=gcc47 --cxx=g++47 in mythtv-0.25 directory, it will detect libvdpau if it's installed and etc.? |
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| [17:49:51] | wagnerrp: | i dont know why you would manually specify the compiler |
| [17:50:14] | Oleg_: | well, the default compiler for freebsd is very old |
| [17:50:18] | wagnerrp: | so? |
| [17:50:23] | Oleg_: | its version is 4.2.1 |
| [17:51:06] | wagnerrp: | unless you're looking for some very heavy optimizations, it will still work well enough |
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| [17:51:51] | wagnerrp: | if you want to switch compilers, you really should recompile your entire system for the new compiler |
| [17:52:17] | eye69: | Oh well, I'll just try wiping the db completely. |
| [17:52:32] | Oleg_: | I am curious, if this is what configure produced: |
| [17:52:34] | Oleg_: | DVB support no [/usr/src/linux-9.0-STABLE/include] |
| [17:52:43] | Oleg_: | does it mean it won't detect my card? |
| [17:52:54] | wagnerrp: | youre likely going to run into bigger issues trying to link together libraries and applications from such different versions of the compiler, than you are from simply running an old compiler |
| [17:53:28] | wagnerrp: | eye69: wiping your database will likely not solve anything that simply clearing your tuner cards and starting with a new video source wouldnt |
| [17:53:37] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: the "no" says no |
| [17:53:43] | Oleg_: | will it detect my ATSC card if that thing says no? |
| [17:54:13] | wagnerrp: | it takes your kernel version, which it detects as "9.0-STABLE", and is looking for the DVB headers in the location those would appear on a linux system |
| [17:54:24] | wagnerrp: | which is where that path comes from |
| [17:54:32] | wagnerrp: | no DVB headers there, it disables that capability |
| [17:54:54] | wagnerrp: | there are very few, if any, DVB tuners directly supported by FreeBSD |
| [17:55:01] | eye69: | wagnerrp: I've tried deleting the cards and source and recreated them already |
| [17:55:19] | wagnerrp: | you can reuse existing linux DVB drivers for USB devices through the webcamd interpreter |
| [17:55:19] | Oleg_: | webcamd detects my USB atsc tuner just fine |
| [17:55:21] | eye69: | Didn't help one bit |
| [17:55:29] | Oleg_: | and that's what I used with mythtv 0.24.x |
| [17:55:33] | wagnerrp: | but how well that works, and how to compile mythtv for DVB on freebsd, i dont know |
| [17:55:46] | wagnerrp: | if youve done it before, you must have the headers and libraries somewhere |
| [17:56:00] | wagnerrp: | there should be an option available through configure to point mythtv at where those are |
| [17:57:12] | Oleg_: | I used webcamd with the version of mythtv that was already included in ports |
| [17:57:16] | Oleg_: | which was 0.24.2 |
| [17:57:35] | Oleg_: | but, since mythtv 0.25 is not in ports yet, I am trying to compile it myself |
| [17:57:49] | wagnerrp: | read the ports Makefile, and see what it does |
| [17:58:05] | wagnerrp: | should be simple enough to just poke it to pull the 0.25 tarball if nothing else |
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| [18:00:20] | Oleg_: | in that Makefile, I see: |
| [18:00:21] | eye69: | wagnerrp: I don't seem to be getting any errors in the logs either. I had an error earlier about it not being able to add to channelscan_dtv_multiplex due to a NULL field, but it retries with "blank" instead which works |
| [18:00:22] | Oleg_: | CONFIGURE_ARGS= --prefix=${PREFIX} --dvb-path=${LOCALBASE}/include \ |
| [18:06:16] | Oleg_: | okay, I added --dvb-path=/usr/local/include to the command line |
| [18:06:47] | Oleg_: | so, now it detects dvb, but I am not sure if I missing something else that went undetected |
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| [18:09:37] | Oleg_: | something else is missing, 'cause I get this error: |
| [18:09:39] | Oleg_: | libavdevice/v4l2.c:41:23: fatal error: asm/types.h: No such file or directory |
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| [18:13:16] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.25 . . . e/logs/stdio |
| [18:13:23] | wagnerrp: | those are the options the buildbot uses to compile |
| [18:13:34] | wagnerrp: | beyond that, i have no experience with the freebsd mythtv ports |
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| [18:20:31] | locuse: | i'm setting up mythweb. my webserver's apache 2.4.3 w MPM=event. as that's a threaded mpm, i use php-fpm rather than mod_php5. i've found @ wiki mythtv config for apache <= v2.3.x + mod_php5, and nginx + php-fpm. b4 i reinvent the wheel, is there any config info/guidance for apache 24x (or any version, for that matter) + php-fpm? |
| [18:20:33] | wagnerrp: | sphery: do you think you might be able to start putting your new database tables in? |
| [18:20:45] | wagnerrp: | im not talking about functional or anything, just available |
| [18:21:17] | wagnerrp: | ive been working on redoing the scanner for the video library |
| [18:21:44] | wagnerrp: | but now that ive been thinking about it, i just want to scrap it and start from scratch with a generic scanner for all of mythtv |
| [18:21:52] | wagnerrp: | which means needing a unified "file" table |
| [18:23:37] | wagnerrp: | just develop the new stuff in parallel, in a split off 'mythmaster' or whatever |
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| [18:48:07] | justinh: | had a proper go at wearing a new hat at work today. debugging a web app based on php/mysql/linux/python/js. And fixing the code :-) |
| [18:48:10] | RagingMind: | is there a way to easily (via a job) losslessly transcode my mpeg4/mp3 nuv contained videos into mp4s? |
| [18:48:32] | justinh: | who still records nuv files? eew |
| [18:48:59] | RagingMind: | I have a bttv card... not really another option with myth at this point |
| [18:49:13] | justinh: | RagingMind: prolly just change the container. you likely won't need to transcode IMHO |
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| [18:49:55] | wagnerrp: | right, "lossless transcode" is really an oxymoron |
| [18:49:59] | wagnerrp: | there is no such thing |
| [18:50:19] | RagingMind: | yeah... but that's how it's referred to in the wiki for mpeg2 files so that's what I called it :P |
| [18:50:21] | wagnerrp: | well thats not true... there are lossless compression formats |
| [18:50:29] | wagnerrp: | but mpeg2/4 is not one of them |
| [18:50:43] | wagnerrp: | when the wiki refers to "lossless transcoding" it really isnt actually transcoding |
| [18:50:57] | wagnerrp: | its just directly ripping out sections of video |
| [18:50:57] | justinh: | almost lossless but not totally because it's mpeg2 & you're cutting it – doesn't quite roll off the tongue so well though ;-) |
| [18:51:09] | wagnerrp: | there is no loss, as youre not even touching the chunks that you intend to keep |
| [18:51:38] | wagnerrp: | the only "transcoding" or "loss" involved is for the handful of frames between the cut points and the nearest GOP |
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| [18:51:48] | wagnerrp: | it backfills those areas with I frames, which are lossy |
| [18:51:52] | justinh: | so anyway, as I said.. repacking the nuv files into another container is likely a good bet I think |
| [18:52:02] | RagingMind: | I'm familiar with containers/codecs, just not sure how to prod myth into doing what I want |
| [18:52:10] | wagnerrp: | and something that could be done in a matter of minutes |
| [18:52:16] | wagnerrp: | since its basically just a file copy |
| [18:52:18] | justinh: | nuvexport, ffmpeg... |
| [18:52:29] | wagnerrp: | mythffmpeg would likely be best |
| [18:52:45] | wagnerrp: | since its going to have our assorted fixes for properly dealing with out blend of nuvs |
| [18:52:48] | justinh: | does mythffmpeg have the same syntax as ffmpeg pretty much? |
| [18:53:14] | wagnerrp: | its nothing more than the 'ffmpeg' binary compiled out of our internal copy |
| [18:53:33] | RagingMind: | justinh, I don't really want to "export" it from mythtv. I just want to be able to stream from mythtv to my tablet's upnp video player |
| [18:53:34] | wagnerrp: | it should be more or less identical to the upstream copy at the time the snapshot was made |
| [18:53:57] | wagnerrp: | RagingMind: the bigger question is how did you get these nuvs in the first place |
| [18:53:59] | RagingMind: | I can setup mythffmpeg as a job to change the container and replace the original file? |
| [18:54:03] | wagnerrp: | youre still using a "framegrabber" card? |
| [18:54:08] | justinh: | mythffmpeg -i %FILENAME% -acodec copy -vcodec copy outputfilename.mpg |
| [18:54:22] | wagnerrp: | look for the "transcode wrapper stub" on the wiki |
| [18:54:29] | justinh: | RagingMind: replacing files isn't really a simple operation |
| [18:54:31] | RagingMind: | wagnerrp, yes... I'm stuck with my ancient bttv card because my PVR250 doesn't seem to like my server |
| [18:54:36] | wagnerrp: | it lets you define a command to run, and manages everything else in terms of updating the database |
| [18:54:44] | RagingMind: | and I can't afford anything new at the moment |
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| [19:05:38] | eye69: | Right, I tried dropping all tables in the db, removed my .mythtv dir and ran mythtv-setup |
| [19:06:37] | eye69: | Readded my DVB cards and recreated the source, ran the channels.conf import and was left with no channels in the list despite it listing a bunch of channels when scanning and asking me whether I wanted to add them |
| [19:07:07] | eye69: | So...something is really botched here... |
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| [19:07:56] | wagnerrp: | yes, the channels.conf import |
| [19:08:21] | eye69: | I'll try rescanning all existing transports |
| [19:13:34] | eye69: | Right, this time it seems to have worked. |
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| [19:22:26] | Oleg_: | so, compiling mythtv |
| [19:22:36] | Oleg_: | let's hope there will be no errors |
| [19:23:15] | Oleg_: | mythtv-setup is still a part of mythtv 0.25? |
| [19:23:43] | Oleg_: | 'cause I heard something was supposed to be deprecated |
| [19:23:44] | wagnerrp: | correct, the replacement in the backend web server is not yet complete |
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| [19:28:27] | Oleg_: | and now I have this issue: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/511182 |
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| [19:31:57] | RagingMind: | wagnerrp, thanks. looks promising |
| [19:32:32] | RagingMind: | but I'm not versed in python so I don't quite follow what it's doing and I see a hardcoded mkv extension |
| [19:32:42] | Oleg_: | patch -Np0 -i "${srcdir}/mythtv_0.25_gcc_4.7.patch" |
| [19:32:43] | Oleg_: | srcdir: Undefined variable. |
| [19:35:31] | justinh: | RagingMind: well, mkv is one of the least retarded container formats around. Unlike, say AVI |
| [19:35:50] | Oleg_: | so, I did setenv srcdir /usr/home/mythtv/mythtv-0.25 |
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| [19:37:02] | RagingMind: | justinh, yeah, but my tablet won't like it. I need mp4 |
| [19:37:19] | RagingMind: | still working my way through the bits to figure out what I need to change to what |
| [19:37:37] | Oleg_: | firefox saves some garbage instead of the actual patch |
| [19:38:18] | justinh: | RagingMind: I can't find where the command that does the transcode is in that script. my python-fu is weak :P |
| [19:39:00] | Oleg_: | oh, never mind |
| [19:39:01] | RagingMind: | my guess right now is "ask = System(path=transcoder, db=db)" |
| [19:39:15] | justinh: | RagingMind: no, transcoder=cp :) |
| [19:39:24] | justinh: | so rather than cp... |
| [19:39:33] | RagingMind: | yeah I saw that's where it's set |
| [19:40:16] | RagingMind: | but I still don't know how it then gets executed, given options, how the correct file names are passed to it |
| [19:41:38] | justinh: | have you tried just copying a recording, renaming it to .mp4 & playing it on the tablet? ;-) |
| [19:42:56] | RagingMind: | no, because I'm almost certain my tablet won't like the nuv container |
| [19:43:29] | wagnerrp: | RagingMind: so you hard code it to whatever extension you want |
| [19:44:07] | wagnerrp: | its not supposed to take options, as all options are intended to be stored in the file itself |
| [19:44:15] | wagnerrp: | so you have a different file for each different set of options |
| [19:44:18] | justinh: | my guess is that to do an actual transcode, say using ffmpeg you'd put transcoder = '/path/to/ffmpeg' then further down below outfile = maybe have transcoder = transcoder + '-i' + infile + 'ffmpeg options' + ' outfile' ... ish |
| [19:44:33] | wagnerrp: | exactly |
| [19:44:57] | RagingMind: | wagnerrp, is changing that one extension line to mp4 enough to tell mythffmpeg that it needs to copy video/audio streams into an mp4? |
| [19:45:13] | wagnerrp: | possibly |
| [19:45:24] | wagnerrp: | im not entirely sure how the ffmpeg command line operates |
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| [19:56:09] | Oleg_: | and now, this error: |
| [19:56:11] | Oleg_: | /usr/include/netinet/ip.h:51:2: error: 'u_char' does not name a type |
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| [20:08:48] | justinh: | RagingMind: if you just want to repackage the streams in an mp4 container just try ffmpeg -i $inputfilename -acodec copy -vcodec copy $outputfilename.mp4 |
| [20:08:59] | justinh: | or mythffmpeg ;-) |
| [20:09:30] | justinh: | try it with a recording or 2 & play the resulting file on your tablet. if that works, then put that stuff in wagnerrp's wrapper script |
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| [20:10:18] | justinh: | worth a try doing it like that first. I wouldn't like to burn cpu cycles just so some lame tablet could play TV |
| [20:10:59] | justinh: | I have a tablet somewhere. a crappy archos 70 thing. I don't know exactly where it is |
| [20:11:15] | justinh: | not the biggest waste of money I've ever had but still a waste |
| [20:11:30] | RagingMind: | once I got my touchpad I all together stopped using my laptop |
| [20:11:45] | justinh: | speaking of which I wonder when the myth android apps are going to work with 0.25 |
| [20:12:02] | justinh: | meh. tablets are good for web browsing & about nothing else IMHO |
| [20:12:15] | RagingMind: | yeah... I'll try from command line first. I'm just still not sure how to edit the script to make it a job that'll run automatically |
| [20:12:32] | justinh: | you'd basically do as I suggested |
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| [20:15:28] | justinh: | take out the transcoder = 'cp' line, change the line outfile = to make an mp4 extension instead of mkv, then under that line put transcoder = "/path/to/mythffmpeg -i " + infile + " -acodec copy -vcodec copy " + outfile |
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| [20:19:06] | justinh: | assuming the -vcodec copy args work of course |
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| [20:22:55] | RagingMind: | I'm looking though man pages to figure out ffmpeg |
| [20:26:43] | justinh: | why? |
| [20:26:56] | justinh: | just try the basic container change |
| [20:28:22] | RagingMind: | because it's what I do |
| [20:28:54] | RagingMind: | http://pastebin.com/vMDt97Eb is what I have at the moment |
| [20:29:12] | justinh: | me, I look on google for examples. try em. if they work, use that :D |
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| [20:29:57] | justinh: | RTFMing on something like ffmpeg can make a guy's brain hurty |
| [20:31:19] | Oleg_: | looks like u_char and u_short don't really exist in C |
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| [20:42:05] | trumee: | wagnerrp: any plans of updating gentoo ebuilds? |
| [20:42:28] | wagnerrp: | plans, yes |
| [20:42:31] | RagingMind: | okay... so I have a separate frontend/backend setup. where do I put the script? |
| [20:42:39] | wagnerrp: | but those pesky distractions, they just keep growing |
| [20:42:57] | wagnerrp: | RagingMind: where ever the jobqueue runs |
| [20:43:07] | RagingMind: | I have no idea where it runs :( |
| [20:43:31] | trumee: | wagnerrp: seems you have a merge request, https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/pull/28 |
| [20:43:33] | wagnerrp: | there is one built into mythbackend, or there is the separate mythjobqueue |
| [20:44:15] | Oleg_: | look at this warning: |
| [20:44:17] | Oleg_: | videoout_nullvdpau.cpp:493:38: warning: narrowing conversion of 'vf->VideoFrame_::pitches[1]' from 'int' to 'uint32_t {aka unsigned int}' inside { } is ill-formed in C++11 [-Wnarrowing] |
| [20:45:12] | justinh: | RagingMind: job queue settings. on the backend in mythtv-setup |
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| [20:45:38] | justinh: | user job 1, user job 2, etc |
| [20:46:15] | wagnerrp: | trumee: no sense committing something the ebuild generator can manage on its own |
| [20:46:28] | wagnerrp: | there are no meaningful changes in that pull request |
| [20:46:30] | justinh: | should be pretty self explanatory. the wiki used to describe how to mangle the db yourself. NOT recommended |
| [20:47:15] | trumee: | wagnerrp: right. guess mythtv 0.25 will appear in portage before you get around to updating the ebuilds :D |
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| [20:48:45] | wagnerrp: | ill try to get something out tonight |
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| [20:50:25] | trumee: | wagnerrp: thanks! |
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| [20:51:11] | Oleg_: | and now I am getting this error: |
| [20:51:13] | Oleg_: | dvbstreamhandler.cpp:616:37: error: '__u16' was not declared in this scope\ |
| [20:51:24] | RagingMind: | hmm... it *feels* like I'm getting closer. I'm guessing I have to "allow user jobs" ? |
| [20:51:42] | wagnerrp: | the specific user job, on whatever host you want it to run on |
| [20:51:51] | wagnerrp: | since all youre doing is a container change |
| [20:52:11] | wagnerrp: | you may want to add that as an automatic rule for those recording rules made on that tuner |
| [20:54:59] | RagingMind: | yeah, was planning on it :) |
| [20:55:09] | RagingMind: | how do I tell it to pass the job number to the script? |
| [20:55:23] | wagnerrp: | %JOBID% |
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| [21:06:39] | Oleg_: | folks, when trying to compile mythtv, I get this error: |
| [21:06:41] | Oleg_: | In file included from dvbdev/dvbci.cpp:31:0: |
| [21:06:41] | Oleg_: | /usr/include/malloc.h:3:2: error: #error "<malloc.h> has been replaced by <stdlib.h>" |
| [21:06:49] | justinh: | this is all still assuming it works, RagingMind ;-) |
| [21:08:07] | RagingMind: | it worked on a file from the command line. now setting up the job (and taking time to make notes) |
| [21:09:21] | RagingMind: | I had to edit the script again to do what you'd originally said and put the transcode = line below infile and outfile to get it to not error |
| [21:09:23] | RagingMind: | http://pastebin.com/UDu2M5VG |
| [21:12:13] | RagingMind: | error user job returned non zero :( |
| [21:15:33] | Oleg_: | folks, in mythtv source code, what does __u16 stand for? |
| [21:15:42] | Oleg_: | is it unsigned 16-bit integer? |
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| [21:21:16] | RagingMind: | how do I get python to "echo" a variable or something to the terminal when a script is running? |
| [21:23:57] | justinh: | print ("something") IIRC |
| [21:24:03] | RagingMind: | mythffmpeg is being run with the right file, but I think it's missing most of the command line |
| [21:24:26] | RagingMind: | so I wanna make it print the transcoder variable |
| [21:25:18] | Oleg_: | how come the source code for mythtv uses __u16 instead of uint16_t? |
| [21:25:32] | justinh: | print 'transcoder variable = ' + transcoder |
| [21:26:08] | Oleg_: | and how come it uses malloc.h instead of stdlib.h? |
| [21:26:11] | justinh: | here am I, knowing little of python, giving python code advice. LOL |
| [21:27:03] | justinh: | I may yet one day stop hating it for no good reason |
| [21:27:39] | Oleg_: | now, another crappy error: |
| [21:27:41] | Oleg_: | requesthandler/fileserverutil.h:27:5: error: 'off_t' does not name a type |
| [21:28:27] | justinh: | Oleg_: ever considered using linux? :-P |
| [21:29:45] | RagingMind: | hmm... no what it prints is the entire command line and running that in the terminal works |
| [21:31:16] | justinh: | oh wait a sec |
| [21:31:40] | justinh: | RagingMind: I know what's up I think |
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| [21:32:53] | justinh: | or not. I just don't get python yet |
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| [21:34:56] | RagingMind: | when I tell it to print transcoder I get "/usr/bin/mythffmpeg -i /mnt/stuff/mythtv/1302_20120321210000.nuv -f mp4 -acodec copy -vcodec copy /mnt/stuff/mythtv/1302_20120321210000.mp4" |
| [21:35:03] | justinh: | RagingMind: I suspect it's to do with the output = task ( stuff. dunno what's going on there |
| [21:36:13] | RagingMind: | and when I run that command on terminal it spits out the file, but in the logs (when I run the job and it errors) I get "Unable to find a suitable output format for '/mnt/stuff/mythtv/1302_20120321210000.nuv'" from mythffmpeg and the output file is 0 in size |
| [21:38:36] | justinh: | RagingMind: what about if you run it without the -f mp4 part? |
| [21:39:14] | justinh: | because unless you record in mjpeg it should already be mpeg4 |
| [21:39:17] | RagingMind: | and I get "AttributeError: 'MythError' object has no attribute 'returncode'" after the script is done |
| [21:39:37] | RagingMind: | justinh, mp4 is telling it what container I want, not the video format |
| [21:39:42] | justinh: | ah |
| [21:40:12] | justinh: | so if mythffmpeg doesn't work with .nuv you might be kinda screwed |
| [21:40:41] | justinh: | what if you just run mythffmpeg -i $file ? |
| [21:41:04] | RagingMind: | if I feed the exact same command to a command line it does the conversion just fine and the resulting file works on my tablet |
| [21:41:18] | justinh: | righto |
| [21:41:25] | justinh: | that's good news |
| [21:41:49] | justinh: | so there's something up with my interpretation of the script. you need to bone up on python ;-) |
| [21:43:50] | justinh: | oh wait a sec... yeah it's the output = line messing things up |
| [21:43:51] | RagingMind: | near as I can tell it's executing the right command, but mythffmpeg isn't acting as expected |
| [21:44:15] | justinh: | no, the 'transcoder' variable is right on the money |
| [21:44:49] | justinh: | maybe change that line to output = task |
| [21:46:21] | justinh: | what I *think* happens otherwise is the 'output' line is running System ( foo ) & adding args defined in that line |
| [21:46:55] | justinh: | anyway I'm going to bed. good luck :-) |
| [21:53:47] | RagingMind: | OH, I finally got what you were saying. |
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| [21:53:50] | RagingMind: | thanks :) |
| [21:54:14] | Oleg_: | okay, I finished compiling mythtv and when I type "cd programs", "./mythtv-setup/mythtv-setup", I get: |
| [21:54:20] | Oleg_: | Shared object "libmythtv-0.25.so.0" not found, required by "mythtv-setup" |
| [21:55:46] | RagingMind: | well. the job finished this time, but now that recording is gone :( |
| [21:56:01] | RagingMind: | output file is 0 and the logs don't have the output of the script |
| [21:58:52] | jams: | Oleg_- you have to install it first, or change your lib path but really installing it is easier |
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| [22:00:27] | Oleg_: | it's installed |
| [22:00:49] | Oleg_: | now I need to know how I can make freebsd see it. It's in /usr/home/mythtv/mythtv-0.25/libs/libmythtv directory |
| [22:00:57] | Oleg_: | I don't wanna install it |
| [22:01:11] | Oleg_: | I mean, it's compiled, but not installed |
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| [22:19:00] | Oleg_: | and now this problem, I type mythtv-setup and get: |
| [22:19:07] | Oleg_: | /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version GLIBCXX_3.4.11 required by /usr/local/lib/libmythtv-0.25.so.0 not found |
| [22:20:28] | [TheAsp]: | oleg, you need to do make install at the top |
| [22:20:44] | [TheAsp]: | oh |
| [22:20:55] | [TheAsp]: | did you build it on another machine? |
| [22:21:10] | [TheAsp]: | sorry, i was scrolled up a bit and didnt notice |
| [22:21:50] | Oleg_: | no |
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| [22:44:17] | nichos: | Hi all, is there an updated theme wiki for .25? the mainmenu.xml doesn't seem to do anything in this new version |
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| [22:54:45] | jk90090: | Wagnerrp: the build generator won't build a fixes/0.25 |
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| [22:56:56] | wagnerrp: | jk90090: sure it will, you just have to tell it to |
| [22:57:27] | wagnerrp: | something like 'scripts/mythtv-buildebuild.py --version=0.25 --type=fixes' |
| [22:57:32] | wagnerrp: | or maybe you have to specify the branch |
| [22:57:36] | wagnerrp: | i dont recall exactly |
| [22:57:43] | jk90090: | right, but it just won't work for some reason |
| [22:58:14] | jk90090: | in at least once instance I saw it pulling in the 0.26 master even though the trunk for fixes was specified |
| [22:59:02] | wagnerrp: | well... all the more reason for me to finish up this new version then |
| [22:59:22] | wagnerrp: | only been sitting on my hard drive partially functional for ~6mo |
| [22:59:57] | jk90090: | :-) And it has a flaw in that it will look at pre-existing tar ball to pull has values, which if the user had accidentally ran it without options first means the master is pulled, and so the hashes are 0.26 hashes |
| [23:00:55] | jk90090: | I didn't do more debugging after tracing for 10 minutes, though |
| [23:01:14] | jk90090: | I just created my own corrected ebuild ;-) |
| [23:01:19] | wagnerrp: | yeah, when the distfiles and Manifest gets hosed, its a complete PITA to resolve |
| [23:01:29] | jk90090: | totall |
| [23:01:31] | jk90090: | y |
| [23:01:34] | wagnerrp: | hence the new version operating completely independent of the portage tools |
| [23:01:41] | wagnerrp: | (it generates its own Manifest) |
| [23:01:53] | wagnerrp: | plus that means i can run it on my freebsd server, rather than one of the gentoo clients |
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| [23:25:00] | RagingMind: | wagnerrp, do you happen to know much about the mythtv python bindings? |
| [23:25:09] | wagnerrp: | none at all |
| [23:25:40] | wagnerrp: | erm... |
| [23:25:45] | ** wagnerrp sometimes forgets he wrote them ** | |
| [23:26:14] | RagingMind: | I saw your name on the wiki history page that describes them :) |
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| [23:30:45] | RagingMind: | wagnerrp, I can't figure out what combination of 'transcorder' and 'output = task *blah*' I need to get the script to work. |
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| [23:35:37] | Oleg_: | what is this: |
| [23:35:39] | Oleg_: | 2012-04–24 19:35:23.484449 E DVBChan(1:/dev/dvb/adapter8/frontend0): Getting Frontend signal strength failed. |
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| [23:47:00] | wagnerrp: | RagingMind: give me the exact command you want to run |
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| [23:51:51] | RagingMind: | "/usr/bin/mythffmpeg -i /mnt/stuff/mythtv/1302_20120321210000.nuv -f mp4 -acodec copy -vcodec copy /mnt/stuff/mythtv/1302_20120321210000.mp4" |
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| [23:56:26] | Oleg_: | folks, could you please tell me how to resolve this error: |
| [23:56:47] | Oleg_: | 2012-04–24 19:56:39.593753 E DVBChan(1:/dev/dvb/adapter8/frontend0): Getting Frontend signal/noise ratio failed. |
| [23:57:47] | wagnerrp: | http://pastebin.com/EHtA1JqG |
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