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Thursday, April 12th, 2012, 00:04 UTC
[00:04:52] skd5aner: SmallR2002: I would disagree entirely
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[00:05:17] skd5aner: schedulesdirect is well worth the small cost and signficiantly better than what is typically delivered over "EIT" in the US
[00:05:30] skd5aner: sounds like you've got a configuration problem or something
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[00:12:55] wagnerrp: skd5aner: i think hes saying he has it configured incorrectly
[00:12:59] wagnerrp: so its not pulling data
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[00:20:11] jm|laptop: hello :)
[00:20:57] jm|laptop: I've upgraded to 0.25 and I'm trying to install mythweb. I think I've done things correctly but I'm getting Class 'MythBase' not found in /usr/local/share/mythweb/classes/Translate.php error. My phpClass-fu is lacking so I can't work out what's up :/
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[00:22:57] tgm4883: jm|laptop, what OS?
[00:23:10] jm|laptop: Linux. Debian wheezy. Lighttpd.
[00:23:16] tgm4883: ok
[00:23:35] tgm4883: so you aren't dardack on the ubuntu forums
[00:23:53] jm|laptop: dardack?
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[00:26:17] jm|laptop: I have set up the mod_rewrites
[00:27:17] SmallR2002: skd5aner: i'm sorry, i mean that no program data is being pulled from it
[00:27:28] skd5aner: np, I misunderstood :)
[00:27:41] SmallR2002: i'd far rather pay twice their fee for a good service like that than deal with the shabby eit i'm pulling
[00:27:59] SmallR2002: (for one thing 2–1 gets nothing at all)
[00:29:40] SmallR2002: hmmm
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[00:35:53] kormoc: jm|laptop, you need to install the bindings from the backend
[00:36:10] kormoc: jm|laptop, 0.25 uses bindings that are shipping with mythbackend now rather then completely standalone
[00:36:32] jm|laptop: the perl dbd ones?
[00:37:01] ** kormoc blinks **
[00:37:18] kormoc: no... the php ones
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[00:38:22] jm|laptop: ris
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[00:38:50] skd5aner: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/512871  – so, uh... there's /still/ a desire to stick with outdated video rendoring capabilities for low-end/old hardware???
[00:39:29] skd5aner: and not only that, spend time rewriting the xvideo rendor instead of working on new/better stuff?
[00:39:56] jm|laptop: kormoc: bindings_php yes I have this
[00:40:12] kormoc: for whatever reason, myth web can't find/access them
[00:40:20] jm|laptop: :(
[00:41:00] jm|laptop: my --prefix was /opt/mythtv-0.25
[00:41:14] skd5aner: why even manually set a prefix?
[00:41:18] jm|laptop: do I need to define that somewhere?
[00:41:46] jm|laptop: skd5aner: because I have a separate (working) installation elsewhere and a backed up database
[00:45:14] kormoc: jm|laptop, add this to your htaccess file: php_value include_path ".:/opt/mythtv-0.25/whatever/the/path/is"
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[00:52:06] Beirdo: skd5aner: seems so
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[00:54:37] skd5aner: seems like waste to me, but hey... I'm sure there's a vision and roadmap you guys are following somewhere, right?
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[01:12:54] skd5aner: hmmm, stumbled upon this via twitter – http://messinet.com/rpms/browser/mythtv/mythw . . . -video.patch
[01:13:59] sphery: skd5aner: I think it's better to say that danielk would rather spend his time working on XVideo stuff since it needs less work than OpenGL video rendering needs
[01:14:51] sphery: that's not to say that we want XVideo nor that we will be keeping it long term--just that the current implementation of the OpenGL video renderer is extremely inefficient and, therefore, needs a lot of work if that becomes the minimum requirement
[01:14:51] skd5aner: it's always easier to work on sustaining innovation than forward innovation
[01:15:15] skd5aner: less risk, but less reward (generally)
[01:15:16] sphery: well, that's the thing about F/LOSS--we work on what we want to work on :)
[01:15:18] wagnerrp: skd5aner: i dont see any way to actually play the content
[01:15:33] wagnerrp: this just looks like a mechanism to proxy the content through mythweb
[01:15:49] skd5aner: wagnerrp: yea, I hadn't really reviewed it – I just was going through twitter search to see what people were saying about torc lately
[01:15:49] wagnerrp: (i.e. half the way there)
[01:15:51] sphery: pretty sure Anthony posted that to the -users list (if not also Trac)
[01:15:53] skd5aner: and mythtv
[01:15:56] skd5aner: and that came up
[01:15:57] sphery: (the html5 video patch)
[01:16:21] wagnerrp: ive seen messinet.com before in reference to mythtv, but couldnt remember who it was connected to
[01:16:25] skd5aner: sphery: yea, wasn't sure if it was referenced to the devs/community already :)
[01:16:35] sphery: Anthony Messina
[01:16:59] sphery: guess I could have been "nice" and just linked his gossamer page so his name didn't appear on another google page... oops
[01:18:01] wagnerrp: "New Audio Standards Support"... we got new audio formats?
[01:18:09] sphery: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10529
[01:18:14] skd5aner: wagnerrp: more ways that people twisted my words :P
[01:19:28] sphery: I find words are like that--the more I use, the more they're twisted
[01:19:46] sphery: (and yet I still haven't learned to use them sparingly)
[01:23:29] skd5aner: I'm off – hopefully tomorrow, the grumpiness will have left, but I'm not holding my breathe
[01:26:11] sphery: I plan to be here, tomorrow, too.
[01:26:17] sphery: oh, maybe that's not what you meant
[01:26:43] sphery: (though I'm much less grumpy, now, than I was early this morning when I thought start scripts were breaking db upgrades)
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[01:29:11] america: mythtv only shows 4 tuners on my new hdhomerun prime (with 6 tuners)
[01:30:26] wagnerrp: the HDHomeRun Prime only has 3 tuners
[01:30:44] wagnerrp: and you must add them all individually
[01:31:36] kisak: america may be refering to the HDHR3–6CC
[01:31:51] america: i am
[01:32:01] sphery: in which case he needs to add all 6 individually :)
[01:32:47] wagnerrp: in which case he needs to add the three tuners on both of his HDHomeRun Primes individually
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[01:33:25] america: mythtv shows 4 options for selecting a tuner under Available devices
[01:33:32] wagnerrp: (the HDHR3–6CC is just two HDHRs with a shared power supply)
[01:33:40] wagnerrp: where are you currently?
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[01:33:50] america: capture cards
[01:33:57] america: mythtv-setup
[01:34:10] wagnerrp: wait... are you using 0.24 or 0.25?
[01:34:11] drounse: im going to set up a box with torc as a back end, how much ram should i use?
[01:34:24] america: 0.24
[01:34:26] wagnerrp: drounse: torc != mythtv
[01:34:54] wagnerrp: america: 0.24 uses an old set of the HDHR libraries, and is not aware that HDHR devices exists with anything other than two tuners
[01:35:07] wagnerrp: best option would be to update to 0.25
[01:35:08] drounse: wagnerrp: what?
[01:35:11] america: oh nast
[01:35:14] america: k
[01:35:22] wagnerrp: drounse: ?
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[01:35:34] drounse: whats torc != mythtv
[01:35:36] skd5aner: drounse: torc is entirely seperate from mythtv
[01:35:45] wagnerrp: as in, this is the mythtv support channel
[01:35:49] skd5aner: != means "does not equal"
[01:35:50] wagnerrp: perhaps #torc?
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[01:36:05] drounse: its forked from it, so the amount of ram needed for a functioning back end should be similar
[01:36:10] skd5aner: and, torc hasn't even released a product yet
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[01:36:29] wagnerrp: should be... probably
[01:36:33] skd5aner: drounse, there's really no reason to build a modern computer, for any purpose, with less than 4GB
[01:36:54] jya: whats the URL to try the http live streaming ?
[01:36:58] skd5aner: RAM is relatively cheap
[01:37:08] wagnerrp: jya: use the internal web server
[01:37:24] drounse: skd5aner: its not a computer with a gui, so theres no need for that much.... plus im running linux fine with less than a 1gb on this computer
[01:37:32] wagnerrp: there is a simple utility there capable of spawning and accessing streams
[01:37:32] sphery: on port 6544, typically
[01:37:37] skd5aner: jya: hostname:6544
[01:37:56] skd5aner: drounse: then why are you asking?
[01:38:06] wagnerrp: drounse: you do realize that servers typically run gobs more memory than your average desktop with "guis", right?
[01:38:18] wagnerrp: a modern desktop might come with 2–8GB on average
[01:38:19] jya: wagnerrp: so I could read the stream from an android phone or iPhone ?
[01:38:28] wagnerrp: a modern server usually starts at 32GB and goes up from there
[01:38:38] wagnerrp: jya: potentially
[01:39:15] wagnerrp: looks like its not in the left-side menu
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[01:40:01] sphery: and the the cost difference between 1GB and 4GB RAM is about $10 (i.e. 2x2GB DDR3 costs about twice as much as 1x1GB DDR3)
[01:40:02] wagnerrp: jya: oh, there it is... API -> Examples -> HTTP Live Streaming
[01:40:17] skd5aner: ah, wagnerrp – you can submit a backend only hardware profile apparently
[01:40:33] skd5aner: via the web server|utilities|hardware profile
[01:40:35] wagnerrp: skd5aner: manually, yes... but there is no mechanism to automatically update it
[01:40:38] sphery: now, if you're "rebuilding" old technology computer that uses DDR2 or earlier, 4GB is expensive (since no one makes it anymore)
[01:40:43] wagnerrp: its a one-off submission
[01:40:55] skd5aner: what kicks off the automation in mfe?
[01:41:14] wagnerrp: starting it
[01:41:31] wagnerrp: it checks on boot, and runs if youve run it before, and it has not been run in over a month
[01:42:12] skd5aner: hmmm, just tried to submit the one from my backend, the ajax notification says it submitted, but it doesn't appear in smolt
[01:42:49] wagnerrp: should be the same code
[01:42:58] wagnerrp: might want to check the logs to see if it failed for some reason
[01:43:05] jya: wagnerrp: you know the default username/password for the backend server?
[01:43:06] skd5aner: yea, I'll look into it later – thanks
[01:43:37] wagnerrp: i think some combination of 'mythtv' and 'admin'
[01:44:04] skd5aner: admin/mythtv
[01:44:48] jya: skd5aner: thanks
[01:44:53] jya: let's try that again
[01:45:17] wagnerrp: note, you must have your backend compiled properly to do HLS
[01:45:54] jya: wagnerrp: I use mythbuntu packages..
[01:47:34] wagnerrp: i have no idea what their compile flags are
[01:47:48] jya: I can stream with the JW plugin thing
[01:47:55] skd5aner: works for me, you just have to have the right packages installed
[01:48:10] wagnerrp: sphery: you think we might want to have the ./configure line compiled into mythtv somewhere?
[01:48:20] skd5aner: jya: what's your mythtv --version output?
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[01:48:47] jya: MythTV Version : v0.25
[01:48:48] jya: MythTV Branch : fixes/0.25
[01:48:49] jya: Network Protocol : 72
[01:49:01] jya: build on the day fixes/0.25 was created
[01:49:03] skd5aner: pastebin please (it should show the compiled in libraries
[01:49:34] jya: skd5aner: it's working… that's all that matters :)
[01:49:44] skd5aner: well, then ya... doesn't really matter :)
[01:50:20] skd5aner: I haven't tried it on my android device yet... about to die, maybe I'll go try it on my HP TouchPad-turned-Android tablet
[01:50:37] skd5aner: although video playback is a bit flakey on it
[01:51:00] jya: it shows all files there, not just videos.. Like I see the .txt, .sub etc
[01:51:34] skd5aner: yea, it's just a POC
[01:53:21] RagingMind: skd5aner, evil...
[01:53:51] ** RagingMind hugs his webOS devices close **
[01:58:40] skd5aner: I really /wanted/ to be the guy who liked webos...
[01:58:51] skd5aner: but on the touchpad... man the experience sucked BADLY
[01:59:40] skd5aner: an alpha port of android, from a third party with no access to the hardware specs, runs significantly faster and more responsive than WebOS
[01:59:50] skd5aner: I can fully understand its demise
[02:06:13] Captain_Murdoch: jya, extensions mean nothing. :) and that's a test/example page. enough to let me stream videos to my iPhone, etc. around the house. wish I could get it working with my Android tablet, but Android's HLS support is lacking...
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[02:22:55] jya: Captain_Murdoch: from the test page, how do you stream to the iPhone ?
[02:23:17] Captain_Murdoch: click the play link
[02:23:21] jya: I had wanted for a whilte to write a proper iphone/ipad app. When I saw that robertm was working on one, I looked elsewhere.
[02:23:35] skd5aner: well, lucky you... you can do it now with no competition
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[02:23:50] jya: but now that it's obvious it won't work for myth, plus I don't trust any of the code he writes, it may be time to reconsider the thought
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[02:28:22] jya: Captain_Murdoch: that test page doesn't display properly at all on my iphone :( i see no list at all
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[02:28:46] jya: oh, actually, I think its safari that just crashed
[02:29:27] america: well, i think i got things working except my HDHR-6cc is only recording black
[02:29:30] Captain_Murdoch: maybe try clicking the refresh. my phone seems to sometimes cache the info from that api call for some reason.
[02:29:38] Captain_Murdoch: the refresh link that is... :)
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[02:34:31] sphery: america: are you sure your cable co has the cable card properly provisioned and that you're recording a "copy freely" channel
[02:35:00] sphery: (though note that I know almost nothing about cablecard, so feel free to ignore me... just seems those are things that often cause problems with CC)
[02:37:45] america: wait, how do i find out which channels are copy freely
[02:37:48] brian__: Hi, brianboonstra here. Trying to make sure the OSX wiki ready for the new release. I've downloaded the official build of OSX backend to a fresh machine and temporarily shut down the old backend. I've got MythTV-Setup hanging after setting up the HDHomeRun capture cards.....
[02:38:24] brian__: I happen to be running setup with -v out of a console. Last 4 messages are: CardUtil::GetHDHRdescription(103289D2) – trying to locate device
[02:39:52] brian__: Th capture card table in mythconverg has 4 entries
[02:41:44] brian__: …and now i also see "AppleRemote::startListening() failed" — still hung
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[02:43:29] brian__: Anyone have suggestions what to examine?
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[02:44:10] brian__: Aha…still listening to th emouse! Just not keyboard arrows.
[02:50:19] brian__: Hmmm…it is unusable like this. I bet it works with an Apple remote but this machine does not have one.
[02:54:36] brian__: Killing and restarting MythTV-Setup gives me enough time to go on to the next category before the AppleRemote timeouts kill me. Not ideal but it works. Next question…..
[02:55:23] brian__: I have an HDHomerun Prime which of course has 2 tuners. Should I be doing a separate channel scan for each, even though both are connected to the same SchedulesDirect "source"  ?
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[02:59:24] wagnerrp: whoops, autoexpired a pair of recordings
[02:59:41] wagnerrp: thought i hat enough space free
[03:01:12] brian__: @wagnerrp: that's why I am always careful to remorselessly prune my wife and kids' shows. More room for me!  ;-)
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[03:36:53] kormoc: jya, aim's iOS app works just fine for myth. It doesn't use anything that isn't in myth proper
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[03:42:31] jya: kormoc: for the time being that may be true.. but I have no doubt that a future upgrade won't or that the servers have diverged too much
[03:43:43] kormoc: I doubt that will be the case. It's easy enough to support both data sources if they diverge and just 'fall' back if needed
[03:45:04] wagnerrp: that took me far too long to figure out who 'aim' was
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[03:45:40] jya: wagnerrp: i still don't know, I guess iam...
[03:45:51] wagnerrp: yeah
[03:46:24] kormoc: autocorrect
[03:46:29] jya: kormoc: btw, what are you up to these days? you've jumped ship or you're still involved in myth?
[03:47:04] kormoc: Busy on other stuff. Database caching layers, System monitoring solutions, etc
[03:47:21] kormoc: I'll be involved once I get a big enough itch again
[03:47:28] wagnerrp: that autoconfiguring cacti-like thing?
[03:47:30] jya: I see you on the Torc commit's list.. hence the question
[03:47:53] kormoc: wagnerrp, yeah
[03:48:16] kormoc: jya, Torc means I can do things I can't do with myth. it's not jumping ship, it's working with both
[03:48:35] jya: what can you do with torc that you can't in myth?
[03:48:43] kisak: danielk handles logging, right?
[03:48:55] wagnerrp: no, bei rdo
[03:49:25] kisak: oh, my mistake, are you around Beirdo?
[03:49:48] kormoc: my first goal is to rewrite the entire http layer to be jquery/jqueryui and all that jazz
[03:50:10] kormoc: it'd step on too many toes on the myth code base, but I'm hoping people will like the end result and merge it in
[03:50:30] kormoc: I have my scheduler changes to apply some day too
[03:50:49] Beirdo: danielk did change it around as well, but yes, I'm here, kisak
[03:51:02] kormoc: changes the scheduler rather radically, but as it breaks compatibility with power rules and similar, it was a lot of pain to apply here
[03:51:19] kormoc: rework the database layouts, etc
[03:51:24] kormoc: plenty of area to experiment
[03:53:58] Beirdo: kormoc: I wish you luck :) especially trying to straddle two potentially time-consuming projects, and having a life too :)
[03:54:00] kisak: Beirdo: I found an incorrect logging message coming out of mythutil --gencutlist, you can see it at line 147 of http://code.mythtv.org/doxygen/markuputils_8cpp_source.html , it should read "Commercial Skip List copied to Cutlist". Also, a LOG_NOTICE line is missing from right after it
[03:54:41] Beirdo: that's upto whoever wrote that tool. but I can go take a look
[03:54:48] Beirdo: got files and line numbers?
[03:55:41] wagnerrp: well... you are on the blame list for damn near every bit of logging in mythtv
[03:56:31] Beirdo: yes, but that particular one came into existance after I did the logging changes :)
[03:56:50] Beirdo: I don't mind taking a look, but I'll need to be pointed to what you want me to look at :)
[03:57:03] Beirdo: I'm a bit distracted working on the ffmpeg sync too.
[03:57:10] kisak: Beirdo: looks like ./mythtv/mythtv/programs/mythutil/markuputils.cpp line 147
[03:57:31] Beirdo: K, one moment
[03:58:02] Beirdo: heh, that's not even "logging" per-se
[03:58:26] Beirdo: but yeah, the text seems backwards
[03:58:35] kisak: well, like I said, there's a LOG_NOTICE line is missing as well
[03:58:48] Beirdo: I'm not sure what you mean by that
[03:59:40] Beirdo: oh, the author decided not to log it
[03:59:41] Beirdo: heh
[03:59:45] Beirdo: I get ya
[03:59:51] Beirdo: all the others have it, not that one
[04:00:26] kisak: if there were others that did not have logging, I wouldn't have mentioned that bit
[04:00:58] Beirdo: heh
[04:01:12] Beirdo: I'll check that in. thanks
[04:01:57] kisak: thank wagnerrp, he helped me get logging back for my user job
[04:02:32] kisak: or blame wagnerrp, for giving you more work; however you want to look at it
[04:03:04] Beirdo: done
[04:03:46] kisak: thanks for saving me the effort of making an account and a bug report
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[04:05:39] wagnerrp: :)
[04:06:08] wagnerrp: that reminds me, ive got the code half written to perform automatic logging in mythsystem
[04:06:14] wagnerrp: i should get that written and committed
[04:06:33] wagnerrp: or at least i think its about half written
[04:06:39] wagnerrp: i dont think ive touched it in two months
[04:07:32] Beirdo: automatic logging?
[04:07:52] Beirdo: not sure I get ya :)
[04:07:57] wagnerrp: managing stdout for child processes
[04:08:05] Beirdo: ahhh
[04:08:17] wagnerrp: instead of simply discarding it
[04:08:26] Beirdo: yeah, I was thinking about that a while back too, I think it's on my TODO as well
[04:08:46] wagnerrp: i think taylorr mentioned something about it that got me working on it
[04:08:53] Beirdo: great minds think alike or something
[04:10:59] wagnerrp: i also need to put in a better caching mechanism
[04:11:05] jamminmon: jya: still around?
[04:12:07] jamminmon: jya: installed your .dmg last night . mysql works well, but I am getting endless "MythSocket(107d11d30:34): writeStringList: Error, invalid string list." errors
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[04:19:18] Beirdo: caching? like for the I/O buffering?
[04:21:52] Beirdo: CyberKnet: you changing IPs on us?
[04:27:17] ** Beirdo chuckles **
[04:27:25] Beirdo: my backend it at a load avg of 8
[04:28:15] wagnerrp: Beirdo: yeah, something that could allow in-progress recording, while clearing out the read data
[04:28:19] wagnerrp: some form of ring buffer
[04:28:38] Beirdo: yeah, the two kinda go together
[04:29:13] wagnerrp: ideally, use it to implement pipes and redirects internally, rather than using bourne
[04:31:15] Beirdo: 2012-04–11 21:31:00.365068 E Player(0): Couldn't find an A/V decoder for: 'myth://[2001:1938:270::4]:6543/3071_20120406210000.mpg'
[04:31:18] Beirdo: snicker
[04:31:23] Beirdo: OK, I missed a spot
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[04:33:01] CyberKnet: Beirdo: Kinda. I left IRC connected at work.
[04:33:17] CyberKnet: and I haven't had my irssi proxy running for a while.
[04:37:35] Beirdo: ah man, what DID I miss?
[04:41:23] CyberKnet: Weird: In mythweb/front end it shows I have 3 HD tuners, and 2 SD tuners ... but mythtvsetup only shows 2 HD and 2SD
[04:41:59] CyberKnet: this is a prime example of why I would not like to have access to the database removed from me :)
[04:42:37] america: can't seem to figure out why my hdhr primes show blank screen
[04:42:40] CyberKnet: Not that I'm modifying it right now ... but I'm looking at it to see what is wrong
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[04:44:01] Beirdo: k, definitely hitting this file
[04:44:29] CyberKnet: should I have two records in capturecard (total of 4) for a HVR-2250 ?
[04:44:33] CyberKnet: that seems ... odd
[04:44:43] Beirdo: um, yeah
[04:45:01] Beirdo: it has two analog and two digital tuners
[04:45:28] CyberKnet: I don't think I've ever used the analog tuners
[04:45:44] CyberKnet: but also ... I don't think I saw any different inputs when I was setting up inputs...
[04:45:47] Beirdo: and you likely have multirec on for the digitals
[04:46:20] CyberKnet: I guess if that is default then I do...
[04:46:22] Beirdo: wow. took it 1min20sec to probe this file
[04:46:29] CyberKnet: I just deleted all capture cards prior to this
[04:46:32] Beirdo: I musta done something stoopid
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[04:48:16] CyberKnet: Beirdo: No, these aren't the analog tuners
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[04:48:44] CyberKnet: These are the /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0, /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 ...
[04:48:51] CyberKnet: I have two records for each of those.
[04:48:54] Beirdo: right
[04:48:57] Beirdo: multirec
[04:50:01] Beirdo: aka virtual tuners... will let you record two channels off the same mux
[04:51:47] CyberKnet: hmmmm ok
[04:52:02] CyberKnet: where is that configured?
[04:52:19] Beirdo: when you configure cards and such
[04:53:38] CyberKnet: thanks. :) I was looking for the what part of when you configure cards and such ... as I am currently configuring cards and such :)
[04:54:22] Beirdo: hehe
[04:54:31] CyberKnet: I should create two input groups, right? to use with the HD/SD on the 2250 x 2?
[04:54:33] Beirdo: I don't remember exactly
[04:54:38] Beirdo: yeah
[04:54:55] Beirdo: one for each tuner, add a digital and an analog to each input group
[04:55:02] Beirdo: (the matching ones, of course)
[04:55:25] CyberKnet: cool.
[04:55:35] Beirdo: OK it's definitely something I screwed up
[04:55:40] CyberKnet: and ... how do I tell it "don't give up recording an HD to use the stupid SD"
[04:55:43] Beirdo: lets' go fix this, I think I know
[04:56:00] Beirdo: tuner priorities
[04:56:09] Beirdo: I think
[04:56:34] CyberKnet: input priority?
[04:56:50] Beirdo: I dunno, that got changed around lately
[04:57:22] CyberKnet: I'll just not screw with it now
[04:57:38] CyberKnet: every time I change a priority because I think I know what it does ... I am severely braindead about how it works :)
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[05:07:05] Beirdo: yay, got it
[05:26:13] Beirdo: Oh WTBLEEP
[05:28:08] Beirdo: missed a wee spot
[05:41:37] dekarl1: CyberKnet: just add priority -1 to your SD input connections
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[07:37:27] johntramp: i am using a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR150 capture card and am having a problem where the incoming data from /dev/video0 randomly stops
[07:38:31] johntramp: it seems to happen regardless of the tool i am using to read the data and i cant find any pattern to what is causing it to freeze up
[07:38:46] johntramp: sometimes it is after a couple of minutes, other times it can record for hours with no problem
[07:39:02] johntramp: have any of you come across anything similar to this before?
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[08:41:34] trapicki: Hello. I'm searching for a decent icon for mythfrontend.
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[09:09:18] partoj: trapicki: can you define 'decent'? :)
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[09:46:06] jya_: for some reasons, my metadatagrabber settings got reset ; now whenever I tried to do a metadatalookup, in the log I see for example: /usr/share/mythtv -l en -M 88 Minutes
[09:46:06] jya_: 2012-04–12 19:39:29.465814 I No results found for 88 Minutes 0 0
[09:46:27] jya_: any ideas what's going on ? where are the metadata grabber configured ?
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[09:53:22] jya_: actually, just going back into the screen where you set the data source and saving again restored all settings as they should
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[10:06:08] trapicki: partoj: decent is, some picture with reasonable resolution (>32x32px) or a vector graphic, representing "MythTV" in an easy to recognise manner, suitable for use on any background, from white to black.
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[10:10:34] partoj: trapicki: Have you looked in in /usr/share/mythtv/themes/* ?
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[10:19:54] grantma: Um, sorry to barge in, but running 0.25-fixes from git on Debian Unstable, ATI card, XVideo is all strange hues and not clipped properly, and opengl displays 1/2 way down screen...
[10:19:54] grantma: <grantma> Hardware: ATI RV710 [Radeon HD 4550], 3.2GHz AMD Phenom IIX4
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[10:49:54] stse: Hi! Can anyone suggest a sattelite dish (60cm) that works with a unicable LNB? I have my eyes on a CAS06 (Kathrein), but Kathrein doesn't offer unicable LNBs and doesn't mention if third party LNBs are working.
[10:51:02] trapicki: stse: this should only be a matter of feed mounting... seems to be a little off topic here, though
[10:52:55] stse: trapicki: yes, a little off topic, true. I only thought that I could find people here using such combinations.
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[11:33:30] Guest85716: hello, i changed some hostnames with any relevant parts ( database/DNS/hosts etc.) clients can see the backend-status but complaining about "could not connect to backend, correct setup?" .... what do i miss ?
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[11:46:59] lapion: hmm the only way I can change channels on my analogue card is if I create one "virtual" capture card for each channel
[11:47:32] lapion: that works even better then when normal channel changes where still working
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[13:40:28] tgm4883: sphery, on that DB upgrade thread on the mailing list. The upstart script would have restarted the backend because of the way he stopped it
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[13:41:34] tgm4883: It's a little unclear to me his exact steps, but from what I can tell he just killed the backend process. He should have issued a stop command to the backend service (sudo service mythtv-backend stop)
[13:44:17] RagingMind: johntramp, I get similar weirdness from a pvr250, the only fix I found was using a different motherboard. I hope your solution is simpler
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[14:17:20] skd5aner: wagnerrp: is the gentoo ebuild up to date for 0.25-fixes?
[14:17:27] wagnerrp: not yet
[14:17:36] skd5aner: ah – just recommended it to someone
[14:17:57] wagnerrp: i could update it today without much trouble
[14:18:07] skd5aner: might be a good idea I suppose?
[14:18:34] wagnerrp: ive been meaning too, havent gotten around to it
[14:18:40] skd5aner: out of curiousity, why do you package for gentoo? simply because that's what you run? does another gentoo packager pick up form the repo?
[14:18:49] skd5aner: s/form/from
[14:19:05] wagnerrp: yes, yes
[14:19:16] wagnerrp: car doe and rich0
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[14:33:34] sphery: tgm4883: yeah, I was thinking the same, but regardless, the database backup he had from before he started was corrupt--it had lots of post 0.24 changes. He mentioned that he "tried" 0.25pre a couple months ago and had problems so went back, and I think he made a mistake when restoring the backup
[14:33:57] sphery: so, no matter what else happened, his database was messed up anyway
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[14:34:44] EvilGuru: I know the 'real' Gentoo mythtv ebuilds were quite neglected for some time
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[15:19:11] laber: i changed some hostnames with any relevant parts ( database/DNS/hosts etc.) clients can see the backend-status but complaining about "could not connect to backend, correct setup?" .... what do i miss ?
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[15:20:22] sphery: lautriv: How did you change hostnames? Did you change them in the database using http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . d_or_backend before starting up any MythTV apps?
[15:20:41] sphery: are the IP addresses different, too?
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[15:22:49] lautriv: sphery, i made a backup and purged the former mythtv, IP is the same, error remains regardless of IP or jostname given. but i'm curious about thebehaviour because if there would be a problem with the database, the client won't see the status. also checked a remode db-login with appropirate user/pass and succeeded.
[15:23:00] sphery: lautriv: also note that if you've attempted to run any mythtv apps on the system(s) with new hostname(s), the change hostname will fail
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[15:23:27] sphery: "purged the former mythtv"?
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[15:24:16] lautriv: sphery, i had a problem with certain logins but the install-script was the problem. not the setup.
[15:25:20] lautriv: sphery, are there anywhere else mysql.txt and config.xml some entries ? (grep found nothing)
[15:26:33] sphery: those have IP address stuff (and "LocalHostName" overrides)
[15:26:54] sphery: mythtv-setup also has master server and "this" server IP address (under General)
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[15:27:48] sphery: but hostname is all over the place in the DB--which is why you need touse the restore script ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . d_or_backend --doesn't actually restore a DB, just fixes it) before starting up any MythTV app on the system with new host name
[15:27:52] lautriv: sphery, master is up, showing his and the slave working fine, can see that also from the clients frontend but i can't use the frontend to watch or record.
[15:28:15] sphery: can you post frontend log, please (to pastebin.com )
[15:28:46] lautriv: sphery, let me see if there is something .........
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[15:31:18] lautriv: sphery, i found one frontend did not rotate the log since over 2 years so i'll cut it a bit down ;)
[15:32:49] sphery: hehe, yeah, that would be good--just need one startup attempt
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[15:35:31] lautriv: sphery, rebooting frontend after clearing log, pasting soon.
[15:40:28] lautriv: sphery, there it is --> http://pastebin.com/6L4nY5nt shows clearly a successful db-access.
[15:42:35] sphery: also shows it connecting to the backend successfully
[15:42:45] sphery: what's not working?
[15:43:20] sphery: btw, unless you install Droid Sans, your text will be all messed up on MythCenter-wide (with things cut off)
[15:43:35] sphery: Or, you can upgrade to 0.25, which includes Droid Sans as part of the theme, so it just works
[15:43:43] lautriv: sphery, on the clients, it starts up to the graphics where i can select tv/video etc. but if i select e.g. watch tv it complains about "could not connect to backend"
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[15:44:24] sphery: please try that and post the additional log info
[15:45:15] lautriv: sphery, i have also one repeating line in the backend-log where i could get no answer on google --> Error: offset>181, pes length & current cannot be queried
[15:46:32] sphery: that's some thing in the video stream... not related to not getting playback, and probably not important once you get playback, assuming you don't notice playback problems
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[15:50:14] lautriv: sphery, now i found something interresting, after one attempt, it refers to backend on 127.0.0.1 from the client o.O
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[15:50:47] lautriv: sphery, i have to do some steps with the dogs, are you here in approx 1h ?
[15:50:50] sphery: you need to run mythtv-setup on each system and set this backend IP address
[15:50:57] sphery: (including frontend systems)
[15:51:29] sphery: I may be around, but if not, others will :)
[15:52:07] ikevin: hi
[15:53:32] ikevin: if my pc use a resolution 1024x768 and i try to play with livetv a rtp stream at 1440x1080, does it can make myth crashing?
[15:54:12] ikevin: i've 2 pcs with the same version & use the same backend, 1 work fine (use 1280x720 as resolution) and the second crash
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[16:24:05] sphery: ikevin: it should work fine, but may be affected by the chosen Playback Profile (under mythfrontend Playback settings) and, potentially, by video card/drivers
[16:25:05] skd5aner: heh – comments like this make me chuckle – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/513227#513227
[16:25:05] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/513227 **
[16:26:06] skd5aner: Beirdo: ^ gotta try and update the regex to ignore anything where the # is not preceded by a space or something?
[16:28:43] ikevin: it's only on rtp stream, i've another dvb tunner who work fine
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[16:29:00] ikevin: i check in playback setting
[16:29:03] ikevin: +s*
[16:29:06] ikevin: thx
[16:34:32] anykey_: Is it known that when you switch channels in LiveTV mode you sometimes see the main menu "behind" the video?
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[16:40:13] sphery: wagnerrp: hehe, I like the math question for new external links on wiki :)
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[17:13:37] kisak_laptop: good day #mythtv-users dwellers, I got bluray playback back to working shape on one of my frontends just to discover that the playback has a hickup every couple minutes and dts-hd does not work with the audio receiver even though the reciever claims to support it
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[17:15:05] kisak_laptop: the hickup may go along with the track entering and exiting interactive sections of the playback
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[17:47:50] skd5aner: hmmm, maybe I should have mentioned Cablecard tuner support as a "new" feature for 0.25 even though that's not technically true
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[17:48:14] skd5aner: would have been a good thing for all the downstream news/announcement folks to pick up on
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[17:49:55] skd5aner: jpabq: btw – I love that you didn't use "-wide" but instead used "-narrow" on the 4:3 theme ;)
[17:50:02] skd5aner: awesome touch :D
[17:52:24] skd5aner: Beirdo: political issues?
[17:53:29] sphery: skd5aner: hehe, yeah, that would have been good to mention--and it is "new" since we now have a) proper support for configuring HDHR Prime and b) acceptable "first-cut" support for Ceton
[17:53:58] sphery: though the announcement you did was a good one, so it's not a big deal
[17:54:04] skd5aner: I considered it, but didn't give it enouh thought... kind of regret it now, as that's a big badge to brag about
[17:54:25] sphery: at least this way, we won't get people on TWC siwtching to MythTV en masse and then blaming you when they can't use cablecard
[17:54:42] skd5aner: oh, there will be no blaming me... I'm a 3'rd party here ;)
[17:54:46] sphery: hehe
[17:54:47] skd5aner: that uses TWC
[17:54:57] skd5aner: and is screwed from that perspective anyway
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[17:56:29] sphery: So, trying to decide whether to spend ~$200 on replacement parts for an old DLP TV (with knowledge that the DMD (mainboard and DLP chip) could fail at any time) or just switch to a new "TV" is a challenge
[17:56:46] sphery: likely "new" TV would be a projector at ~$500 or less
[17:57:02] sphery: meaning the $200 is just under half the cost
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[17:58:17] skd5aner: sphery: updated the release notes at least to account for it
[17:59:07] sphery: cool
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[18:01:57] stonith: Wondering if anyone had any experience with a Hauppauge hdpvr and v4l2-ctl? I will be watching Live TV, have another shell opened doing a 'watch -d -n 2 v4l2-ctl --device=/dev/video0 -l' while I am using the "G" key to manipulate the brightness/contrast/hue/etc. I see the values being sent to the device, but I do not see any changes in the picture. Any suggestions?
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[18:03:46] stonith: CentOS v6.2, 2.6.32–220.7.1.el6.centos.plus.x86_64, mythtv 0.24.2 ... everything else works, its just that I have a horrible washed out colors in picture. My streams don't display any red, it mostly has blue/yellow tinge.
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[18:04:35] sid3windr: reconnect your "red" component cable ;>
[18:04:42] ** sid3windr grin/duck/runs **
[18:04:47] stonith: hah
[18:05:11] stonith: I've reconnected plenty of times – from tinkering with the hdpvr firmware
[18:05:33] stonith: I was think that at one point of time too sid3windr
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[18:06:16] stonith: but it just looks like the any vlues I change with v4l2-ctl applies to hdpvr value wise, but the device doesn't listen.
[18:07:52] sphery: stonith: not sure if HD-PVR respects those values (or if it needs restarting/re-init'ing to pick them up or ...)
[18:08:25] sphery: stonith: that said, horrible washed out colors = you're using a firmware that's new and GNU/Linux drivers don't use it properly, so they can't work with it
[18:09:26] stonith: sphery, no its a good point, I'm actually using the recommended firmware from the MythTV wiki site: hdpvr 2–1.1:1.0: firmware version 0x15 dated Jun 17 2010 09:26:53 ... it still looks horrible... tested with two frontends.
[18:09:49] stonith: Granted my hdpvr 1212 is also a revision F2, don't know if latter revisions are also affected.
[18:10:37] sphery: stonith: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/490173#490173 specifically: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/490427#490427
[18:10:37] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/490173 **
[18:10:37] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/490427 **
[18:10:43] stonith: I tried using a latter firmware for kicks and giggles, but kernel seems like it didn't like it at all and would crash the device
[18:10:44] sphery: ignore mythlogbot links
[18:10:52] stonith: taking a look sphery thanks.
[18:11:24] sphery: and, btw, Devin hangs out here and may just appear sometime with more useful info
[18:11:46] sphery: he's one of the guys working on drivers for video stuff for GNU/Linux
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[18:12:35] sphery: stonith: depending on your kernel version--like if you're on a bleeding edge distro--you may actually have the fix
[18:12:36] stonith: sphery: yah i just pasted the firmware version 0x15 ... i've actually came across that thread before. Its just odd that my hdpvr device shows the values, but nothing happens.
[18:12:50] stonith: sphery: I'll lurk and stalk for Devin then.
[18:13:31] sphery: but if so, you'll probably have to do more of the blood, sweat, and tears part to figure it out (as you'll be one of the ones blazing the trail for others)
[18:13:33] stonith: sphery: no on the bleeding edge kernel... running CentOS v6.2 2.6.32–220.7.1.el6.centos.plus.x86_64
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[18:13:50] stonith: i thought hdpvr has been out for a while?
[18:13:52] sphery: ah, ok, then you almost definitely don't have the new fix
[18:14:12] stonith: I've been using mythtv since 0.22 on a hauppauge pvr350, never had an issue, until I decided to build a new box
[18:14:25] sphery: anyway, many here use HD-PVR (not I, though), so keep hanging out and you'll find someone with more info
[18:14:42] stonith: sphery: thanks for your efforts. Its appreciated.
[18:14:47] sphery: good luck
[18:14:51] stonith: Devin, i'm lookin for ya.
[18:15:03] stonith: :)
[18:15:52] sphery: yeah, I don't think he's in channel, now
[18:15:59] sphery: but many HD-PVR users are...
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[18:16:36] gregL: stonith, I had that problem..I reverted to (hdpvr 1–5:1.0: firmware version 0xf dated Nov 18 2008 11:51:10) and it cleared up..Just a thought..
[18:17:33] stonith: gregL: interesting .. where would I find this gem of a firmware? I was thinking if an older firmware could help me, but Hauppauge's website only listed 0x15 firmware for Linux users.
[18:17:53] gregL: It's on their web site..
[18:18:20] stonith: gregL: I'll look harder
[18:18:24] sphery: seems 1–5 is worth a try--that's the one mentioned by Devin in that thread
[18:18:39] skd5aner: I think it's a firmware issue
[18:18:59] skd5aner: you have to use the one the one that's mentioend that still works ok within linux
[18:19:13] sphery: stonith: http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/software/hd_pvr/hdpvr_1.5.7.0.zip is the link provided... well worth a few minutes to try
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[18:21:07] stonith: sphery: i know i came across this thread and tried it out with no avail. Granted it doesn't hurt to try again, actually might run HCWCLEAR.exe before I try that firmware
[18:21:48] stonith: This is what 'dmesg' says is my current when the hdpvr device is connected to my linux box:
[18:21:49] stonith: hdpvr 2–1.1:1.0: firmware version 0x15 dated Jun 17 2010 09:26:53
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[18:22:03] sphery: stonith: and I'd recommend you also try a system reboot, too--to make sure everything gets cleared/reset
[18:22:52] jheizer: Same firmware I have been using for a year or so ok, except my optical audio from Dish receiver woudl drift
[18:23:11] sphery: (yes, although a reboot is "never" necessary on a GNU/Linux system, that assumption implies that you do everything just right--whereas a reboot always ensures everything is reset, regardless of how much I might know/think of/... :)
[18:23:12] jheizer: So just using RCA, but have not tried it again in ages though
[18:24:04] jheizer: although yes, if I reboot some times I have to reboot again for the hdpvr to be detected
[18:24:11] stonith: sphery: its a good point on the reboot. I learned that when i was getting errors loading modules for hdpvr related to the v4l compiling, but a reboot fixed it.
[18:24:43] stonith: I really need to come to IRC when I'm working from home.
[18:25:40] jheizer: sorry I missed 2 firmware versions up there, my experience is with 0x15
[18:26:55] tgm4883: Should I expect to find the new VAAPI stuff in 0.25 under playback profiles?
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[18:28:42] tgm4883: Checking http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VAAPI is pretty sparse
[18:29:06] tgm4883: but that is where I would have expected to see it based on that page
[18:29:33] sphery: tgm4883: it should be there if you have vaapi stuff all installed right
[18:29:36] stonith: sphery: so you think even a 'rmmod hdpvr' isn't enough when I reconnect the hdpvr device after the firmware switches?
[18:29:51] sphery: stonith: just saying that a 30s reboot is easier than wondering ;)
[18:29:58] tgm4883: sphery, ok, so it's something that is detected and then shows up?
[18:30:07] stonith: sphery: point taken :)
[18:30:11] tgm4883: even for upgrades
[18:31:08] sphery: stonith: I have literally spent hours trying to figure out why a fix a made didn't work only to see it fixed by a reboot, so long ago I decided that I may not actually know everything there is to know when trying to fix my system :)
[18:31:37] sphery: the worst is when you fix it, don't reboot and it's not yet working, so you "unfix" it by trying new things
[18:32:07] sphery: so, any time hardware is involved, I tend to err on the side of rebooting more often than is probably required
[18:32:51] lautriv: sphery, the only reason for a rebbot is a kernel-change without kexec ;)
[18:33:33] lautriv: s/bbo/boo
[18:33:53] ** stonith cannot equate to rebooting a nix box unless I'm loading another kernel. **
[18:35:17] rhpot1991: sphery: is it a vaapi a new playback profile entry then?
[18:35:25] rhpot1991: or is it hiden underaneath one of the current ones?
[18:35:41] jheizer: +1 on rebooting any time hardware is involved as I am sure there is plenty I do not know
[18:35:44] sphery: "only reason for a reboot is kernel change without kexec"--or a user who isn't perfect
[18:36:21] sphery: I was extremely surprised to find out I'm not perfect, but I try to live with the revelation as best as I can.  :(
[18:37:07] stonith: sphery: hah... i'm not perfect either, but haven't came to the realization... guess that makes me stupid.
[18:37:47] skd5aner: has anyone had any success getting the remote to work via lirc for MNV sources? I had no luck when I briefly was playing around with it last night
[18:38:12] lautriv: sphery, perfevtion is usually the opposite of human beeing. if one claims to be, that's probably an alient then.
[18:38:18] skd5aner: tried youtube, didn't work – was going to try vimeo, but for some reason I think that grabber might be broken
[18:38:30] ** lautriv punches his kbd on the wall.... **
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[18:44:10] wagnerrp: why would you have a keyboard on the wall?
[18:44:12] sphery: skd5aner: only works with 25+ on some sites--those that provide JavaScript APIs for control of playback
[18:44:28] sphery: not sure which those are
[18:44:33] sphery: but definitely need 0.25+
[18:44:45] skd5aner: sphery: yea, I know... and vimeo and youtube are supposed to be 2 of them that do
[18:44:52] lautriv: wagnerrp, it's aging and as you can see the rows are sometimes jumping ;)
[18:44:53] skd5aner: and, of course, I'm running 0.25
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[19:01:25] anykey_: I have very wired colours running 0.25 on an intel G35 chipset, but only during video playback. I can adjust it a bit with the picture settings, but I did not need to that in 0.24... is this expected or is something wrong?
[19:01:49] skd5aner: from what recording source?
[19:01:56] skd5aner: and any media, or just recordings?
[19:02:07] anykey_: skd5aner: satellite, cable, I did test recordings only so far
[19:02:31] skd5aner: can you test a non-recording and see if it also does it?
[19:03:01] anykey_: skd5aner: yeah, same problem
[19:03:16] skd5aner: mythfrontend -v playback logs would help
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[19:04:50] anykey_: skd5aner: ok, will provide them later, tv is going to be used now ;)
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[19:07:53] skd5aner: well, I can confirm (what's already been mentioned), that itunes will not connect via RAOP
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[19:20:05] lis0r: yep, just tried it myself
[19:20:28] lis0r: pretty sure the key should be good, cos the same machine running shairport works fine
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[19:26:29] lis0r: works okish for my phone, though – managed to get unsynced between the youtube app and the tele – didn't stop, had to back out to get the tele to accept a different video
[19:27:01] skd5aner: jams: is it possible to get a bit more granular on the smolt CPU speed?
[19:27:14] jheizer: hmm, I'll have to update and try it. Last time I tried it acted like it was working, but nothing ever displayed.
[19:27:17] skd5aner: seems like large windows, and tops off at 2.0
[19:28:08] skd5aner: I'm just trying music, not video
[19:28:27] ** lis0r wonders if it has an associated system event **
[19:28:48] lis0r: would be cool to be able to have it switch my front-of-house on upon an incoming airplay connection
[19:29:36] ** lis0r should have chosen a less odd video to test with **
[19:29:41] lis0r: ponponpon creeps me out :S
[19:30:45] tlhiv_laptop: anyone know of a 0.25 ebuild for gentoo?
[19:31:56] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/tree/fixes/0.25/Gentoo
[19:32:13] tlhiv_laptop: thanks a bunch
[19:32:20] skd5aner: It's not completely up to date yet... a few weeks old, but wagnerrp has mentioned he'll update it in the next few days
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[19:34:11] jams: skd5aner- it's possible, the actually speed of each cpu is stored in the DB. how detailed are you thinking?
[19:34:12] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: cardoe might be a good person to ask too
[19:34:38] Cardoe: lies
[19:34:40] Cardoe: I know nothing
[19:34:40] skd5aner: jams: not sure, but I figured a little more granularity, especially above 2.0ghz would probably be good
[19:35:12] skd5aner: Cardoe: you just happened to join at the right moment... unluckly you ;)
[19:35:49] skd5aner: maybe in 250 MHz increments?
[19:35:56] skd5aner: above 1GHz
[19:35:57] wagnerrp: skd5aner: actually, it may take a bit more effort than i originally thought
[19:36:04] wagnerrp: right now, were pulling tarballs from github
[19:36:04] Cardoe: I don't know what you guys are talking about so its ok
[19:36:18] skd5aner: Cardoe: <tlhiv_laptop> anyone know of a 0.25 ebuild for gentoo?
[19:36:18] skd5aner: <skd5aner> tlhiv_laptop: https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/tree/fixes/0.25/Gentoo
[19:36:21] wagnerrp: im not sure whether or not i should switch that to our server now that were running the primary
[19:36:32] wagnerrp: or whether we leave it on github and let them take the load for free
[19:36:55] Cardoe: Just use wagnerrp's builds in that link
[19:37:13] wagnerrp: my builds are still back on the RC
[19:37:21] wagnerrp: i havent made a new release build yet
[19:37:39] skd5aner: and 3 people have asked about a gentoo build, today...
[19:37:41] skd5aner: geeze
[19:37:50] skd5aner: ;)
[19:37:51] ** wagnerrp is slacking **
[19:38:05] jams: skd5aner- ok more then 2GHZ does seem reasonable. Shows just how long ago that screen was developed.
[19:38:06] Cardoe: I've been so busy lately I haven't really been looking at MythTV
[19:38:07] wagnerrp: wait, no... wrong distro
[19:38:46] skd5aner: jams: :)
[19:39:15] wagnerrp: skd5aner: ideally, we would be using charts rather than tables, however smolt is not designed to do anything but tables at this point
[19:40:07] skd5aner: jams: 1.0–1.24, 1.25–1.49, 1.50–1.74, etc up to 3.5 GHz (and then more than 3.5)?
[19:42:06] skd5aner: someone has 12 CPUs... geeze, dual socket 6-core?
[19:42:28] wagnerrp: !seen kormoc
[19:42:29] MythLogBot: kormoc is here and has been idle for 3 hours 58 minutes 32 seconds
[19:42:54] wagnerrp: kormoc: youve got a fair bit of experience in stats and charting
[19:42:54] skd5aner: it's his?
[19:42:58] skd5aner: oh
[19:43:01] skd5aner: nm
[19:43:19] wagnerrp: any recommendation on what to use if we wanted to add charts to smolt?
[19:43:30] wagnerrp: i.e. rrdtool, or something more low level than that?
[19:43:44] wagnerrp: i dont know if rrdtool is designed to work with anything outside its own internal format
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[19:44:13] skd5aner: wagnerrp: https://developers.google.com/chart/ ?
[19:45:07] CyberKnet: <AMD>Maybe it should show IPC instead of Mhz ... after all, it's not just about clock speed!</AMD>
[19:45:38] wagnerrp: im actually thinking it would be better to do server-side image generation
[19:45:48] wagnerrp: with some amount of caching
[19:46:05] wagnerrp: which means python
[19:46:06] jams: wagnerrp- rrdtool only works with it's own format, however i do plan on using it for some specific graphs over time.
[19:46:56] jams: for other charts turboflot would work
[19:48:07] jams: on top of that, if you wanted to get real fancy there is always something like tableau to generate reports
[19:53:34] sphery: I still have to look into whether there's a way to make vnstat use a larger RRD or something--so I can get more than 2 months of history on my gateway
[19:53:49] skd5aner: TWC has decided to shut off my STB about once a week (or more) now :P
[19:54:01] sphery: was thinking about trying to use rrdtool to explicitly create the DB for vnstat or to resize it or something
[19:54:04] skd5aner: very frustrating to wake up and see several 0 byte recordings because of it
[19:54:34] sphery: skd5aner: hehe, that's fun... due to firmware/software updates or something?
[19:54:52] skd5aner: yea, the broke my ability to use firewire for channel changes about 5 months ago
[19:55:05] skd5aner: and not that long after, sporadic shutdowns of my stb
[19:55:06] sphery: do you have a discrete on/off code for it? if so, perhaps you could do a cron job in the evening before prime time or something to turn it on?
[19:55:14] skd5aner: No, that's the huge bummer
[19:55:21] sphery: I used to do that for my DISH receiver (though when it was off, it was my own fault)
[19:55:25] sphery: :(
[19:55:36] skd5aner: the funny thing is that it DID have the ability for discrete on/off via firewire
[19:55:54] skd5aner: but, the box flips out now when I try to send it anything via firewire
[19:56:59] sphery: I only got discrete on code when Endaf Jones reverse-engineered the dish protocol
[19:57:18] sphery: no clue how he did it (but he described it a bit in http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/196566#196566 )
[19:57:18] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/196566 **
[19:57:30] skd5aner: I'm probably going to sell my house and move within the next few months – so maybe I'll specifically look to move to an area services by comcast so I can get a prime and be done with all this TWC mess
[19:57:40] skd5aner: s/services/serviced
[19:57:49] jams: skd5aner- same thing here with TW. I called them on it and was told it happens when they push updates to the box
[19:58:20] skd5aner: jams: yea, I've seen it happen in real-time before, but generally happens in the middle of the night
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[19:59:24] skd5aner: btw- unrelated note, I found some instability playing back a few recordings since upgrading...
[19:59:30] skd5aner: one even caused a segfault
[20:00:20] skd5aner: ESPN seems to do some weird things when recorded via the HD-PVR... I sometimes lose sound until the next commercial break when it gets "reset" – I think it has to do maybe with resolution changes midstream
[20:00:22] jams: it's real annoying..so is the fact they implmented a sleep mode. Now when using IR it often misses the first digit
[20:00:40] skd5aner: jams: which stb? I have the SA32500HD
[20:01:03] jams: yep thats the one I have
[20:01:12] skd5aner: heh – with "mystro"?
[20:01:22] jams: don't know about that
[20:01:23] skd5aner: (the OS on the box)
[20:01:44] skd5aner: when you do a full boot, as in – after completely disconnecting power – it'll have a splash screen that says mystro
[20:01:55] jams: never see it boot
[20:02:08] skd5aner: pull the power, plug it back in, and turn it on :)
[20:02:20] skd5aner: it's a 4–6 minute boot process, not fun
[20:02:26] trumee: wagnerrp: any plan on updating gentoo ebuilds for 0.25?
[20:02:31] skd5aner: rofl
[20:02:38] jams: mine boots in about a minute, so guess it's not mystro
[20:02:40] skd5aner: wagnerrp: #4 (and counting)
[20:02:40] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4 **
[20:04:47] jams: skd5aner- for the most part i use the analog channels. the STB is only for HBO and G4
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[20:07:54] wagnerrp: heh
[20:08:14] wagnerrp: ive abandoned gentoo, linspire all the way baby!
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[20:21:18] kormoc: wagnerrp, for server side generation, I really don't know. I just use js libraries to generate them
[20:21:24] kormoc: interactive is where it's at imho
[20:21:44] CyberKnet: why would someone want to interact with a graph? :D
[20:21:48] CyberKnet: heh
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[20:22:21] CyberKnet: interactive graphs with drillability are very useful..
[20:22:53] wagnerrp: kormoc: oh? and they generate rapidly?
[20:23:01] kormoc: They do, aye
[20:23:14] wagnerrp: then perhaps that google library could work
[20:23:31] kormoc: I actually like something like high charts or flot
[20:23:53] kormoc: http://www.highcharts.com/demo/line-time-series
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[20:42:42] jheizer: I've used highcharts on a few production websites and they work great
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[20:45:23] cocoa117: is there any dvb-s/s2 device that can run without needing computer, so it have ethernet port, and stream dvb contents to client directly. if i can use it with mythtv would be great
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[20:58:34] tlhiv_laptop: ok i just upgraded to 0.25, and i cannot figure out how to have ALL of my music "added" so that i can select what i want to play via a directory tree
[20:59:43] dekarl1: cocoa117: there are lots of such devices in all variants, try google for "dvb-s2 network stream" the ones that are known to work good with mythtv are only available in DVB-C/T variants though
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[21:08:12] anykey_: skd5aner: http://pastebin.com/7kTcFb7K – mythfrontend -v placklog (strange colours still there, I reset the picture controls)
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[21:10:09] tlhiv_laptop: sorry ... i had a netsplit ... i need some help with the new mythmusic
[21:10:21] anykey_: skd5aner: colours on glxgears are ok
[21:10:21] skd5aner: don't we all
[21:10:25] skd5aner: j/k
[21:10:32] skd5aner: (sorta)
[21:10:41] tlhiv_laptop: i would like to just "Listen to Music" and then select the album/song that i would like to listen to via a directory tree
[21:11:14] skd5aner: anykey_: I'm not the best at troubleshooting these issues, but it looks like you are using opengl for the painter and software (vx-blit) for the video rendor, correct?
[21:11:22] anykey_: yes
[21:12:00] anykey_: have a look @ lines 183–185, do these values make sense?
[21:12:03] sphery: 2012-04–12 23:04:07.954638 W This application expects to be running a locale that specifies a UTF-8 codeset, and many features may behave improperly with your current language settings. Please set the LC_ALL or LC_CTYPE, and LANG variable(s) in the environment in which this program is executed to include a UTF-8 codeset (such as 'en_US.UTF-8').
[21:12:10] sphery: (not related, but needs fixing)
[21:12:14] skd5aner: Looking at line 177 now
[21:12:18] skd5aner: ~
[21:12:21] anykey_: sphery: yeah, figured that ;)
[21:12:47] kormoc: wagnerrp, what sorta charting are you after? pie charts?
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[21:12:58] anykey_: skd5aner: the system is connected by using DVI to HDMI over an AV-receiver
[21:13:20] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: I'd love to be able to do that too, unfortunately, that's not how it works now... you ahve to build playlists.  – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . reply;so=ASC
[21:13:22] anykey_: skd5aner: but i've had the same problems when I connected it directly to a HP monitor via DVI
[21:13:23] sphery: anykey_: why not use VDPAU rendering?
[21:13:29] anykey_: sphery: it's an intel card?
[21:13:38] sphery: ok, good reason
[21:13:41] anykey_: :)
[21:13:42] tlhiv_laptop: skd5aner: lame
[21:13:47] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: agreed
[21:14:13] tlhiv_laptop: and i don't mean the MP3 encoder
[21:14:14] skd5aner: unfortunately, paul took offense when people complained about this and has decided, because of that, not to implement a directory browsing mode
[21:14:41] skd5aner: which is very unfortunate, but maybe somebody else with the skillset will step up and provide that functionality
[21:15:27] tlhiv_laptop: why would he take offense?
[21:15:44] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: he took it as criticism of his several years of work re-writing mythmusic
[21:15:55] skd5aner: rather than ux feedback
[21:16:20] tlhiv_laptop: on a different note then, i'm getting some strange coloration with video playback ... is this a known issue?
[21:16:21] skd5aner: and since he waited years to commit it, rather than ask for incremental feedback along the way from users and devs, we got this
[21:16:35] sphery: anykey_: your brightness/contrast/saturation values look like they'll mess up colors
[21:16:37] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: yes, I'm working on anykey_'s issue
[21:16:47] skd5aner: sphery: was just going to say something about that...
[21:16:52] tlhiv_laptop: which is?
[21:16:57] skd5aner: the saturation specifically
[21:17:00] anykey_: sphery: well, I did not set anything like that anywhere, where can I change it back?
[21:17:07] skd5aner: 2012-04–12 23:04:17.224784 I VideoOutputXv: XV_BRIGHTNESS: -128:-19:127
[21:17:07] skd5aner: 2012-04–12 23:04:17.224990 I VideoOutputXv: XV_CONTRAST: 0:75:255
[21:17:08] skd5aner: 2012-04–12 23:04:17.225110 I VideoOutputXv: XV_SATURATION: 0:146:1023
[21:17:24] sphery: anykey_: please try restarting your frontend with: mythfrontend -O PlaybackBrightness=50 -O PlaybackContrast=50 -O PlaybackColour=50
[21:17:55] skd5aner: anykey_: also, I'm assuming the OSD colors are similiarly messed up?
[21:18:01] anykey_: skd5aner: yes
[21:18:03] sphery: and if that works, you just have to use F to change them to the appropriate value (50 is the number, but it's displayed differently in settings)
[21:18:50] skd5aner: VideoOutputXv: XV_SATURATION: 0:146:1023 – can that third value even be legallyt above 255?
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[21:19:44] sphery: the values printed there are very different from the values stored in db
[21:19:54] skd5aner: sphery: you mispelled "color"
[21:19:55] skd5aner: ;)
[21:20:02] sphery: and, likely, different for different cards
[21:20:11] sphery: (I think the range differs on different video cards/drivers)
[21:20:38] sphery: which is why we don't use actual value in mythtv settings
[21:20:55] skd5aner: I just thought it was a positive/negative 4 bit value
[21:21:22] anykey_: this is what I got by using the above option overrides
[21:21:22] anykey_: 2012-04–12 23:20:21.272990 I VideoOutputXv: XV_BRIGHTNESS: -128:-19:127
[21:21:23] anykey_: 2012-04–12 23:20:21.273195 I VideoOutputXv: XV_CONTRAST: 0:75:255
[21:21:23] anykey_: 2012-04–12 23:20:21.273389 I VideoOutputXv: XV_SATURATION: 0:146:1023
[21:21:30] anykey_: so... just the same
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[21:22:29] skd5aner: anykey_: can you do a pastebinof xvinfo from a cli within X?
[21:22:55] anykey_: skd5aner: DISPLAY=:0 xvinfo does also work, right?
[21:23:10] skd5aner: probably – I always have to look that stuff up :)
[21:23:14] anykey_: heh
[21:23:21] skd5aner: or, just do it from within the context of the display ;)
[21:23:25] anykey_: skd5aner: http://pastebin.com/ux6cUc8G
[21:23:33] sphery: anykey_: try hitting F and adjusting the various controls to about "50%"
[21:23:55] skd5aner: and if they're not at 50%, what are they at?
[21:23:56] sphery: I think you hit F multiple times to get the additional ones
[21:24:25] sphery: brightness (which I think is the first one you get with F) is at almost 50% (just a bit under)
[21:24:30] anykey_: sphery: they are all at 50%
[21:24:32] sphery: contrast and saturation are way low, though
[21:25:00] sphery: then it may be doing a "workaround" for based on gpu, then
[21:25:05] skd5aner: anykey_: thanks for the second pastebin – unfortunately, I don't really know what's normal for those values (i.e. XV_COLORKEY, XV_BRIGHTNESS, etc)
[21:26:02] sphery: anykey_: ok, let's try: mythfrontend -O UseOutputPictureControls=0
[21:26:31] skd5aner: anykey_: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . iew_threaded stumbled across this
[21:26:40] sphery: (or just change the setting "Enable picture controls" in playback settings)
[21:26:52] sphery: might want to try both ways
[21:27:07] anykey_: sphery: overriding does not change anything
[21:27:55] skd5aner: anykey – if you mess with those picture controls, do they help/hurt?
[21:28:20] anykey_: skd5aner: yes, I can adjust it a bit
[21:28:24] skd5aner: (as the one guy mentioned in that article? I'd also be interested in what the xvinfo says without mythfrontend running and after (to see if they change)
[21:29:00] sphery: where you really need to restart X (at minimum--possibly even reboot) to ensure you get a good "without mythfrontend" value
[21:29:16] sphery: since it's not guaranteed that any app will change stuff back to what it was before they started
[21:29:19] skd5aner: yea, and make sure mythfrontend doesn't auto start
[21:29:21] anykey_: I always restart X right now, mythfrontend is started up with xinitrc ;)
[21:29:24] skd5aner: good point sphery
[21:29:27] anykey_: oh, ok
[21:30:00] sphery: anykey_: yeah, can you check what "Enable picture controls" is set to?
[21:30:05] sphery: (either checked or not)
[21:30:11] anykey_: sphery: I can't find it
[21:30:12] skd5aner: the nice thing about xinitrc, you can just put in a xterm & and an # in front of mythfrotned ;)
[21:30:26] sphery: it's in video playback settings
[21:30:49] sphery: (not positive where Playback settings is in 0.25 structure--it's moved... I think under Video Settings or something)
[21:31:38] tlhiv_laptop: ok i have my color fixed ... it was the HUE
[21:31:49] tlhiv_laptop: this playlist thing in MythMusic is 100% annoying
[21:31:56] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: with the picture controls?
[21:32:04] tlhiv_laptop: by pressing F
[21:32:08] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: yes... write you congressman and demand change! ;)
[21:32:15] tlhiv_laptop: it remembered it when i restarted
[21:32:23] anykey_: fresh X: http://pastebin.com/F9zL4XuN // after mythfrontend ran: http://pastebin.com/ban1xWfh
[21:32:39] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: you, too, could tyr to turn off picture controls to see if it disabling it fixes the problem too
[21:32:50] skd5aner: sphery: on a new install, are picture controls enabled by default?
[21:33:01] tlhiv_laptop: skd5aner: how do you turn off picture controls?
[21:33:03] anykey_: skd5aner: well, the values from the mailing list look about right, though I think the colour is not really perfect, skin does look like 4 weeks of beach holidays everywhere ;-)
[21:33:19] tlhiv_laptop: my HUE was set to 0 instead of 1/2 way
[21:33:20] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: somewhere in the video settings (scroll up a few lines, we were just talking about it)
[21:33:39] sphery: skd5aner: defaults to not enabled
[21:33:51] skd5aner: anykey_: heh – well, I'm curious if disabling the picture contols basically eliminates the problem or not
[21:34:05] skd5aner: anykey_: were you able to confirm if they are enabled/disabled?
[21:34:11] skd5aner: sphery: probably a good thing
[21:34:13] anykey_: still searching
[21:34:28] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: what kind of output, intel?
[21:34:34] skd5aner: (video output)
[21:34:46] tlhiv_laptop: ATI
[21:34:59] tlhiv_laptop: do i have to create a stinking playlist for every one of my albums?
[21:35:07] skd5aner: sphery: I wonder why some people are seeing this issue after upgrade? kinda strange
[21:35:30] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: if you want to listen to that albume at that particular minute, you can add it to the active playlist
[21:35:41] skd5aner: tlhiv_laptop: please don't shoot the messanger
[21:35:46] tlhiv_laptop: hehe ;)
[21:36:14] anykey_: oh c'mon, how hard can it be to find this setting :D
[21:36:38] skd5aner: anykey: I'll brb, let me see if I can menu hunt for it
[21:36:54] anykey_: it IS still present in 0.25, isn't it?
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[21:39:36] anykey_: err
[21:39:40] anykey_: removed settings (from the release notes)
[21:39:41] anykey_: Enable Picture Controls – Picture controls are now always enabled [27348]
[21:39:41] MythLogBot: SVN 27348: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/a7008535
[21:40:09] skd5aner: anykey_: was just going to check that
[21:40:19] skd5aner: sphery: that might be a BIG problem
[21:40:27] anykey_: maybe THAT is the problem, I've never enabled them before
[21:43:45] tlhiv_laptop: my video playback OSD seems a little less crisp (i.e., a little blurry) than it should be
[21:43:58] anykey_: skd5aner: going to disable them in code and post the results
[21:44:14] skd5aner: anykey_: that'd be a big help
[21:44:33] skd5aner: let me know, and if we can nail it down, then I might ask you to submit a bug report with the details
[21:46:51] skd5aner: anykey_: can you test in another player, such as mplayer?
[21:47:02] skd5aner: just to confirm that only mythtv is changing the colors on you?
[21:47:28] skd5aner: (and can you do it after a fresh reboot wthout mythtv every have ran?)
[21:47:29] anykey_: skd5aner: not today, I just want to confirm that the picture controls are the problem, after that I really need to get some sleep ;)
[21:47:45] skd5aner: anykey_: np – if/when you get the time, would be good data to confirm
[21:47:49] anykey_: yea
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[22:00:46] skd5aner: anykey_: were you planning on disabling in the code and testing now or tomorrow?
[22:01:06] skd5aner: anykey_: I'm talking with some of the devs about the issue, and that was definitely something they wanted to see
[22:01:17] anykey_: skd5aner: i'm compiling right now
[22:01:22] anykey_: just takes a while
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[22:40:14] stonith: sid3windr: in regards to my blue/yellow tinge and reconnecting the red cable, I'm gonna kill myself if it is either the connection to my STB or HDPVR or the cable... but going to definitely check that out tonight. As stupid as it seems, stupid problems generally happens in my life.
[22:40:36] stonith: it might not be firmware issues at all lol
[22:42:48] sid3windr: :-)
[22:43:06] sid3windr: it may be stupid but if it is the problem it may be the easiest one you could have to solve :)
[22:44:16] stonith: gonna buy you a beer if it is the cable
[22:44:21] skd5aner: stonith: can you recap your issue again?
[22:44:32] skd5aner: I've been working with a few other folks around discolored playback...
[22:44:44] skd5aner: stonith: and what version are you running?
[22:46:07] skd5aner: actually – nevermind, I read the backlog...
[22:46:18] skd5aner: 0.24.2, weird colors with HDPVR recordings, correct?
[22:46:27] stonith: yes sir
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[22:46:30] skd5aner: do you have content from non-hd-pvr recordings?
[22:46:31] stonith: dmesg output shows this: hdpvr 2–1.1:1.0: firmware version 0x15 dated Jun 17 2010 09:26:53
[22:46:52] skd5aner: and if so, does that content play back alright?
[22:46:59] stonith: i haven't tried non hdpvr records, i did try two different frontends... frontend running directly on the backend server, and a frontend on a mac
[22:47:22] skd5aner: ... or dvds, videos, etc (video not from the hd-pvr)
[22:47:46] stonith: i initially thought it was my nvidia coloring issue – but since the mac was showing the same colors, i figured it was either mythtv or the hdpvr
[22:47:50] skd5aner: either way – I don't think your issue is related to the one I was working on, since it involved an issue I think that's only related to 0.25
[22:48:09] skd5aner: I've got to run, sorry I can't stay and help
[22:48:35] stonith: skd5aner: the real issue is v4l2-ctl ... when i pass values for hue saturation, etc... the devices shows the values being changed when watching Live TV and using the "G" key, but picture doesn't show any changes.
[22:48:54] stonith: skd5aner: understood :) thanks for chiming in.
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[22:57:15] america: seems my scheduled recordings (on mythweb) don't record from my hdhr prime 6cc,
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[22:57:43] america: also im not picking up any of my upper channels
[23:00:19] Twiggy2cents: I am getting error_open on my capture cards after upgrading to .25. It changes from 1 or 2 to all 3 also if I unplug and plug the usb tuners in this happens "lgdt330x: i2c_write_demod_bytes" It floods the dmesg
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[23:51:36] Twiggy2cents: I am getting this, 2012-04–12 18:47:06.646770 I MythSocket(38b4170:86): write -> 86 57 QUERY_FILETRANSFER 98[]:[]SEEK[]:[]2698636452[]:[]0[]:[]0
[23:52:08] Twiggy2cents: All playback (videos, recordings, and live tv) crashes the frontend
[23:52:15] Twiggy2cents: That is from the frontend -v all log
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[23:58:13] Twiggy2cents: http://pastebin.com/mYD5q936
[23:58:19] Twiggy2cents: there is the pastebin to the log fild
[23:58:21] Twiggy2cents: file

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