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Sunday, April 8th, 2012, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:05] wagnerrp: PID
[00:00:47] kisak: ok, thank you
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[00:38:35] Beirdo: kisak: in case you were wondering why... we can easily get more than one mythpreviewgen run started within a second
[00:38:39] Beirdo: for instance
[00:42:02] kisak: Beirdo: changed the log file naming coming from my user job to be compliant with the logcleanup.py, it's appname.%STARTTIME%.%JOBID%.log, which should be close enough for my uses
[00:42:26] Beirdo: should do the trick :)
[00:43:21] wagnerrp: or use $BASHPID
[00:43:44] kisak: can I call that before the job is spawned?
[00:43:52] wagnerrp: or rewrite whatever this is in python, which does automatic processing of the logging variables, and output to the properly named file
[00:44:08] wagnerrp: is this a script or an application youre running?
[00:44:20] kisak: it's a oneshot script
[00:44:31] kisak: it's not complicated enough to justify rewriting
[00:46:23] wagnerrp: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux . . . #post3125579
[00:50:20] kisak: won't that cause my userjob to always report that it succeeded, since the launcher script soaks up the error from the script?
[00:51:19] kisak: well, how it is now I am happy
[00:51:51] wagnerrp: no idea
[00:52:42] wagnerrp: i expect there is some better mechanism to perform a dup2 call in bash
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[02:38:29] wagnerrp: heh... heh... Spanky uses Cox internet
[02:38:50] [R]: is that funny?
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[02:44:07] frogonwheels: Does anybody know about an (ongoing) issue where X11 crashes on exit from Music visualisation within myth?
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[02:54:45] frogonwheels: hmmm. seems to be ProjectM
[02:55:40] frogonwheels: it doesn't really matter, 'cause the sound doesnt work *sigh* I have successfully have ALSA:pulse as my audio output for TV, and neither 'default' or ALSA:pulse seem to work for playing music
[02:57:24] frogonwheels: The reason I'm using pulse is 'cause a) it seems to work b) I don't get sharing issues with watching youtube on the browser, or anything else.
[02:58:33] frogonwheels: (I have 'upmix to 5.1' checked, both in TV settings and Music settings – and it's going to a card with proper 5.1 output (ie 3 audio plugs)
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[05:27:31] Beirdo: wonder if any FPGAs are cheap enough for hobbyists at a decent size yet?
[05:28:10] wagnerrp: you could pick up lower end Spartans for <<$100 years back
[05:28:31] [R]: i hate fpgas
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[05:28:56] [R]: i had this one hardware engineer who would carry on so much about stuff
[05:29:01] wagnerrp: and they hate you
[05:29:07] [R]: and then he left, and now this chick does what he did, and she doesnt make such a big deal out of things
[05:29:29] [R]: i told him to just comment out this thing that would reset my processor and he said he couldn't
[05:30:15] Beirdo: maybe he couldn't because of fitting, etc
[05:30:22] [R]: no
[05:30:28] [R]: because i told the chick, and she just laughed
[05:30:28] Beirdo: anyways... Yeah, the spartans aren't too bad
[05:30:39] [R]: and then he said all the resets were tied together, and he coudn't not reset this ione thing
[05:30:53] [R]: and like i told the chick, and she laughed, and said it was already seperate resets, and he was just being difficult
[05:31:44] Beirdo: well maybe he (and/or you) was just being difficult :)
[05:32:03] [R]: i was being perfectly reasonable... he was putting the FTDI into reset, and pissing me off
[05:36:14] Beirdo: heh
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[12:03:22] Oleg_: how can I make mythbackend see not just /dev/dvb/adapter8/frontend0, but
[12:03:33] Oleg_: /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
[12:03:35] Oleg_: and etc.
[12:03:40] Oleg_: for the same card
[12:03:54] Oleg_: I mean, if I unplug the tuner and plug it back in
[12:04:17] Oleg_: I want mythbackend to see the new letters and numbers that were assigned to it
[12:06:27] Oleg_: because now the tuner's location is at adapter16
[12:06:38] Oleg_: and mythbackend is looking for adapter8
[12:06:42] Oleg_: hello!!!!!
[12:06:57] Oleg_: please answer
[12:17:16] sphery: Oleg_: you need to use udev or driver module options to ensure consistent device numbering
[12:18:03] sphery: Oleg_: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Device_Filenames_and_udev
[12:18:10] Oleg_: thanks
[12:18:44] sphery: note, also, some kernel modules have options (see them with "lsmod <module name>") to allow specifying a starting device number
[12:19:45] sphery: (since distros never came up with the tools do properly create udev rules for users--meaning currently it pretty much requires learning udev and writing rules manually--they added hacks/workarounds to the kernel modules)
[12:20:47] sphery: the module options--though inelegant--are much easier
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[12:31:19] sphery: FWIW, today's newegg shell shocker deal from 1:00PM – 3:59PM PT is the (3-tuner) HDHR Prime + Rosewill MCE USB remote for $164.98 instead of $219.99 ... http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx (2nd item, scroll at top)
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[12:33:34] russell5: i saw that. its sad too becaus ei just bought a dvr 2650 for 107.
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[12:35:26] sphery: well, that's close to 2/3 the price (DVR-2650 is 2 tuners, right?)
[12:35:31] russell5: yup
[12:35:39] russell5: and usb instead of networked
[12:35:44] russell5: i would of rather networked
[12:35:57] sphery: actually, yours is cheaper per tuner (just one fewer tuner)
[12:36:06] sphery: though I understand the USB concerns :)
[12:36:17] russell5: yeah but im happy with it.
[12:36:33] russell5: and i was suprised to find myself using the extra tuner
[12:36:49] sphery: hehe, have tuner, will record
[12:36:55] sphery: I'm up to 6 physical tuners, now
[12:37:02] russell5: wow
[12:37:07] russell5: i only got 4
[12:38:02] sphery: and only have OTA--which means basically 6 multiplexes (NBC, CBS, ABC, CW, Fox, PBS--though I do an occasional recording on MyTV or Ion)
[12:38:14] russell5: wow
[12:38:42] sphery: was getting conflicts on Thursday nights a lot since the networks try to put all their best shows up against each other
[12:39:07] sphery: so got a 5th tuner (but because I got the HVR-2250, I also got a 6th)
[12:39:18] russell5: ahhh yeah i have that too
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[12:47:21] Seeker`: I'm tempted by a DVB-T2 tuner, seeing as DVB-T2 goes live here in a week or so
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[13:07:41] peque: Hey Guys. Normally I have runned mythfrontend – with following command to get a logfile (mythfrontend – v -l /var/log/mythfrontend.log ) but after getting 0.25 from git – this will not work. trying the mythfrontend --logpath /var/log/mythfrontend.log --nodblogh as described in mythfrontend -h – doesnt give me anything in the logfile – but since my pulseAudio totally craps up – I need to se the logfile when running mythfrontend – could anybody tell me how t
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[13:09:37] russell5: this is what i do /usr/bin/mythfrontend --logpath /var/log/mythtv --verbose general --loglevel info
[13:10:06] russell5: it now creates its own filename so i dont think you need to tell it its file just path
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[13:19:55] peque: thanks a loyt
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[13:33:30] russell5: I upgraded udev last night. Now i need to have CONFIG_DEVTMPFS enabled and i do. But now it takes it forever to load the driver/firmware for my 2250 and i have to restart mythtv after the computer fully boots to see /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
[13:33:43] russell5: anyone heard of anything like this
[13:34:19] russell5: this is one of the last lines i see in dmesg 52.797314] DVB: registering adapter 1 frontend 0 (Samsung S5H1411 QAM/8VSB Frontend)...
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[14:26:15] wagnerrp: Beirdo: just a thought, with you doing the ffmpeg resync
[14:26:53] wagnerrp: you could try that 'git subtree', and keep reference to ffmpeg's tree
[14:27:36] wagnerrp: so subsequent syncs are just a 'git pull' away, with full history (and whatever new patching needs to be performed)
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[17:18:35] russell5: n
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[17:57:29] Oleg_: if mythtv segfaults, does it mean its source code contains a bug that causes it?
[17:58:17] Oleg_: usually, apps segfault because they have bugs?
[18:02:45] [R]: well segfaults usually ahppen because of bad memory accesses
[18:04:13] Oleg_: it means that mythtv's source code has pointers that cause undefined behavior?
[18:04:35] [R]: sure
[18:04:39] [R]: no one said myth has no bugs
[18:04:40] [R]: ...
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[19:44:44] Beirdo: wagnerrp: I have it as a subtree, but I'm not going to push their history
[19:45:11] Beirdo: and it's more than just a simple merge regardless as we have done significant changes )
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[19:52:35] benomatic: dumb question — can't find it on the wiki :/ if i have videos w/ external subtitle files, can i get the internal player to use them?
[19:53:51] [R]: name them the same as the filename
[19:53:55] [R]: and it should "just work"
[19:56:29] benomatic: kk. i'll recheck the file names. tnx :)
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[20:16:05] Seeker`: Any sign of a fix for the video buffering bug appearing on github?
[20:16:37] wagnerrp: benomatic: they must be of extension '.srt'
[20:17:14] Seeker`: ooh, just been comitted :)
[20:19:20] ThisNewGuy: hey all – I just scanned some hdhomerun channels and it created some like "105.123" but it doesn't seem like the front end will let me enter 7 characters for a channel number in livetv – is there anything I can do?
[20:23:37] wagnerrp: rename it to something more sensible using the channel editor
[20:33:16] ThisNewGuy: k – thanks
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[20:48:58] Seeker`: Is there an easy way of seeing which frequences are used for each channel for DVB-S2 services?
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[20:50:02] family: hello people, I am trying to build the DB for 1st use. but cann't see how to do it. Any help? using – xbmc
[20:51:45] sphery: family: after creating the database in MySQL (not a schema--just a database, a place to put the database schema), run mythtv-setup to create the schema and start configuring the backend
[20:52:17] ** sphery enjoys talking with family on this holiday **
[20:52:37] family: is mythtv-setup a windows application
[20:52:39] family: ?
[20:53:03] sphery: family: you can create the database using mc.sql (if you compiled mythtv yourself), or if you're using a package on a GNU/Linux system, you may have gotten one pre-created
[20:53:14] sphery: it's an application that's part of MythTV
[20:53:34] sphery: not sure how well/if the Windows build works
[20:53:37] family: where can I get the mc.sql ?
[20:53:58] sphery: mc.sql is part of source (and really only something you'd need if you're building from source)
[20:54:24] sphery: though you might still need it if trying to do a backend on windows
[20:54:35] sphery: note, though, that we don't support "tunerless" backends
[20:55:23] sphery: and we primarily support Video4Linux--and no Windows-based capture API--so there aren't many tuners for use on Windows
[20:55:33] sphery: possibly HDHomeRun or something
[20:57:20] family: ok, just looked in the mc.sql and it dosn't create any tables etc...
[20:57:27] family: where are these done?
[20:57:33] sphery: right
[20:57:37] sphery: tables are schema
[20:57:41] sphery: those are done by mythtv-setup
[20:57:50] sphery: mc.sql creates the database (and a user)
[20:58:42] family: a blank db yes.. where I am using xbmc in windows i now need to create the tabels.
[20:59:02] family: anyone have a backup of a frsh install..
[20:59:22] Seeker`: family: are you using mythtv at all?
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[20:59:42] sphery: family: you must run mythtv-setup to configure your backend, anyway
[20:59:47] sphery: meaning you must run mythtv-setup
[21:00:08] sphery: you can get a copy of the windows build of mythtv and see if that works
[21:00:22] family: yeh, ok thanks
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[21:01:13] sphery: family: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Packages
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