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| [00:22:09] | wagnerrp: | coverart gets shared as a storage group |
| [00:22:13] | wagnerrp: | there is no need to mount it remotely |
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| [03:27:17] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: adding covers does not seem to work as a storage group.. had to share it |
| [03:27:53] | wagnerrp: | are your videos defined in storage groups? |
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| [03:44:40] | sphery: | and do you have the storage group directories local to the system that's writing them? |
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| [03:45:19] | wagnerrp: | technically, only the images need to be (in 0.25) |
| [03:45:44] | sphery: | i.e. IIRC, you have to have the dirs on each system with videos |
| [03:45:54] | wagnerrp: | in 0.24 |
| [03:46:36] | sphery: | so what do you need for 0.25? |
| [03:46:43] | sphery: | did you fix the write issue? |
| [03:46:56] | wagnerrp: | the image directories |
| [03:47:06] | wagnerrp: | write issue is still an issue |
| [03:47:14] | wagnerrp: | but only occurs with images, not videos |
| [03:47:22] | sphery: | I thought he was talking about coverart, which I thought was an image |
| [03:47:35] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [03:47:46] | wagnerrp: | but that was a followup where i asked about the videos |
| [03:48:13] | sphery: | ah, yeah, I wasn't meaning video dirs |
| [03:48:15] | wagnerrp: | i was making the distinction |
| [03:48:39] | sphery: | so, "and do you have the [images] storage group directories local to the system that's writing them" "i.e. IIRC, you have to have the dirs on each system with videos" |
| [03:50:18] | ** wagnerrp goes back to this ungodly over-engineered ebuild generator ** | |
| [03:51:14] | sphery: | hehe |
| [03:51:17] | sphery: | good luck |
| [03:51:34] | wagnerrp: | the first one was like 350 lines |
| [03:51:45] | wagnerrp: | i kept expanding it and kept expanding it, and it hit like 1000 |
| [03:52:07] | wagnerrp: | but its a nasty mess, so im breaking it up into a bunch of smaller files, and now halfway through, im already at 1050 lines |
| [03:56:23] | sphery: | hehe |
| [04:07:44] | wagnerrp: | every time i come across the slightest bit of inconvenience, i cant help myself |
| [04:08:06] | wagnerrp: | that takes four lines to do each of the three times i do it, i cant half that |
| [04:08:23] | wagnerrp: | i must write 50 lines of some new class that cuts it down to only two lines each |
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| [06:40:30] | wagnerrp: | banninated... |
| [06:41:12] | wagnerrp: | seriously, why would you create a username like 'GuaranteedSearchEngine' and not immediately start spamming |
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| [06:41:26] | wagnerrp: | surely you realize youre going to be banned in short order |
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| [07:51:31] | justinh: | well, I got rid of xmltv data & am now purely using EIT – and now a schedule takes about 4 secs |
| [07:51:47] | justinh: | that's also with 2 max recordings per tuner |
| [07:53:05] | justinh: | seemingly now recording starts are pretty much bang on time as well |
| [07:53:40] | justinh: | though having the backend time set by NTP is likely helping ;-) |
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| [07:54:11] | justinh: | been asking around & it seems that a lot of *buntu users I know hadn't realised ubuntu removed the default setup of NTP a while ago |
| [07:55:21] | justinh: | as for why they'd put on their wiki that use of NTP to set the time is 'not recommended' for desktop use is quite beyond my understanding. What'd be so bad if you use a pool server? |
| [08:00:16] | justinh: | oh wait a sec. it's still there. there's more than 1 time management control thingy |
| [08:00:47] | justinh: | I thought it used to be set from the clock panel applet but apparently it's under system> admin >time settings |
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| [14:43:16] | NewBuntu81: | I have an RC64 4-function remote control. Most of the buttons works with Mythbuntu when using the mceusb "driver" (lircd.conf) file, and the remote is configured with 21972. However, my guide and info buttons do not seem to work. |
| [14:43:59] | NewBuntu81: | I pulled out the remote that came with the ir box, and the guide and info buttons work on that. Therefore I think 21972 is not the best code for my RC64. Does anyone know a better code I could try so I gain use of those buttons? |
| [14:45:26] | NewBuntu81: | The remote that came with the ir receiver/blaster is a GP-IR01BK. So I basically want to emulate the GP-IR01BK but using my RC64. |
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| [14:55:20] | NewBuntu81: | Here's the GP-IR01BK that i have: http://azendcorp.com/index.php/products/pc-ac . . . 01-gp-ir01bk |
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| [15:10:59] | peitolm: | sometimes when i use the right arrow when playing back a recording, it skips 5mins or so, rather than 20seconds, any ideas what might be causing this (osx, running 0.25-pre, wired keyboards) |
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| [16:02:01] | NewBuntu81: | Apparently the Xbox 360 remote code for RC64 (av1/av2) is 21708. Good to know. That sitll doesn't solve my problem though with the Guide/List/Previous Ch/Color buttons not working. |
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| [16:19:15] | sphery: | NewBuntu81: just look at ~/.lircrc (or ~/.mythtv/lircrc) and see what's mapped to the guide and info buttons... and fix it how you want. |
| [16:20:01] | NewBuntu81: | thanks sphery. the problem is, in irw when I push "Guide" or any of the buttons I mentioned, nothing shows. However, the light on the IR receiver box lights up so I know something is being received. |
| [16:21:22] | NewBuntu81: | (for the RC64 programmed with 21972). On the gp-ir01bk, when I push guide or any of those buttons, it does show in IRW. So it has to be my RC64 remote code programmed code that isn't quite right, correct? |
| [16:22:04] | NewBuntu81: | I really want to use the RC64 remote--it lights up at night. So i'm willing to use a different lircd.conf file (say Philips, or some other brand) just so I get the functionality i need. |
| [16:22:07] | sphery: | NewBuntu81: if you're getting nothing from irw and you're actually using lirc (versus using the in-kernel keyboard driver), then you need to fix /etc/lircd.conf |
| [16:22:13] | sphery: | isn't it rc6 |
| [16:22:39] | sphery: | (if you mean protocol... maybe you mean a brand name or model...) |
| [16:22:55] | NewBuntu81: | The remote model is RC64. It broadcasts RC6 signals (so does the gp-ir01bk) |
| [16:23:28] | sphery: | ah, ok |
| [16:23:37] | NewBuntu81: | So that means the IR receiver receives RC6 signals. Perhaps I should just try a different lircd.conf remote "driver" and configure my RC64 remote control to a different code? |
| [16:23:46] | sphery: | so a directv remote? |
| [16:24:01] | NewBuntu81: | Yep, i purchased a bunch of them. I like where the button placement is, and that they light up. |
| [16:24:26] | NewBuntu81: | Funny part is, I dropped directtv awhile ago but i still use the remote, hahaha. I have Comcast now. |
| [16:26:23] | NewBuntu81: | Comcast cable allows me to record more simultaneously and ends up being cheaper. All of the first 20 channels (your freebies anyway like NBC, CBS, Fox, CW, etc.) are not encrypted. I believe they cannot encrypt them due to FCC law--and hopefully that doesn't change anytime soon. |
| [16:28:30] | sphery: | yeah, I won't be much help finding a pre-existing remote config for you, so I'll leave you to find someone else who uses a similar rc6 protocol remote... good luck |
| [16:28:47] | NewBuntu81: | Does anyone recommend a different code to use with the mceusb "driver" and RC6 protocol with my RC64 remote? Or perhaps recommend a different "driver" (lircd.conf) file that takes use of the Guide, colored buttons, List, etc. buttons...and then I can just reprogram my RC64 remote control to whatever that code is? |
| [16:29:46] | NewBuntu81: | Just for my understanding, my IR receiver receives the RC6 protocol. So I can configure it to receive ANY remote that uses RC6 protocol, right? |
| [16:30:01] | NewBuntu81: | (Meaning i'm not just tied to Microsoft...if Philips or HP work better, I can use that, right?) |
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| [16:31:57] | sphery: | yes, you can use lircd.conf for any rc6 protocol remote, but whether that particular conf has definitions for buttons you have/that your remote sends is another question |
| [16:32:47] | sphery: | but if you can find a lircd.conf that has defs for your guide/info buttons, then you can combine those defs with the ones from another conf with all the other buttons--assuming the one with guide/info is missing some others or whatever |
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| [17:07:42] | NewBuntu81: | Sphery, what lircd.conf file and remote do you use? Do the Guide and Info buttons work? |
| [17:08:44] | sphery: | I'm using an ATI Remote Wonder (RF remote) |
| [17:08:50] | sphery: | very different from "real" remotes |
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| [18:15:44] | lurker: | Hi guys! I have a Mythbuntu 10.04 installed and running. Now my decade-old monitor gave up. So I'm going to buy a decently sized TV to replace it. It shall have a resolution of 1920x1080. I know the procedure from Windows to set up another screen resolution. After setting it, the PC will wait for 15 seconds. If you don't accept it within that time, resolution is set back to the previously running one. Is there anyting comparable |
| [18:15:44] | lurker: | in Myththbuntu 10.04? Or can I change it via console if the desktop isn't displayed properly? |
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| [18:16:39] | wagnerrp: | thats really more an ubuntu question than a mythtv or even mythbuntu one |
| [18:16:52] | wagnerrp: | i know ubuntu has moved to a nearly configurationless Xorg setup |
| [18:16:59] | Slasher`: | i think ubuntu also has a similar thing to windows |
| [18:17:04] | wagnerrp: | and doesnt typically use the old standard /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| [18:17:17] | wagnerrp: | i would expect it to default to whatever the native resolution of the display is |
| [18:17:29] | wagnerrp: | or whatever the next best format is supported by the card |
| [18:17:37] | wagnerrp: | on that note, what video card do you have? |
| [18:20:49] | wagnerrp: | lurker: ^^^ |
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| [18:22:31] | ** wagnerrp pings jams ** | |
| [18:22:50] | wagnerrp: | just wondering if youve ever made it back to the computer and had a chance to see the backlog |
| [18:23:45] | lurker: | I know it is some Intel chipset-included graphics solution. |
| [18:24:17] | wagnerrp: | what generation motherboard? |
| [18:24:35] | wagnerrp: | some Core2 blend? earlier? |
| [18:24:56] | lurker: | How can I find out without digging for the screwdriver? |
| [18:25:22] | lurker: | Yes, I think, it was something of that era. |
| [18:25:26] | wagnerrp: | how old is the motherboard? |
| [18:25:53] | wagnerrp: | G45? G41? G31? G965? G945? G915? |
| [18:25:57] | wagnerrp: | anything sound familiar? |
| [18:27:01] | wagnerrp: | i just ask as there is the distinct potential for something like a 915 or 945 (or maybe 965, not sure) to not actually support 1920x1080 |
| [18:27:11] | lurker: | One moment, please... |
| [18:27:30] | wagnerrp: | at least for nvidia, support for that only became standard in the 8-series |
| [18:27:55] | wagnerrp: | some of the low end 7-series only did 1600x1200 |
| [18:28:05] | wagnerrp: | and some of the 6-series would only do 1280x1024 |
| [18:28:22] | wagnerrp: | (digitally, theyve all supported 2048x1536 for years) |
| [18:28:27] | lurker: | It's a 82G965. |
| [18:30:45] | NewBuntu81: | Lurker, why are you using Mythbuntu 10.10 and not 11.04 or 11.10? |
| [18:31:24] | wagnerrp: | hes using 10.04 LTS, not 10.10 |
| [18:31:39] | wagnerrp: | meaning hes likely to upgrade to 12.04 here in a few months |
| [18:31:47] | NewBuntu81: | sorry, anyway, why isn't he using the 11 or 12 series? :-) |
| [18:32:23] | wagnerrp: | because hes using 10.04 LTS |
| [18:32:47] | wagnerrp: | its the latest LTS version, until 12.04 LTS gets released here in a couple weeks |
| [18:33:35] | NewBuntu81: | ah. what does LTS mean? |
| [18:33:42] | NewBuntu81: | long term solution? |
| [18:34:02] | wagnerrp: | support |
| [18:34:25] | pplmaker: | what does TMI mean? |
| [18:34:28] | wagnerrp: | i think its 1yr for normal releases, and 3yrs for LTS releases |
| [18:34:48] | wagnerrp: | with LTS releases coming every 2yrs |
| [18:35:30] | pplmaker: | LTS is 5 year I believe |
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| [18:36:22] | wagnerrp: | 2 and 5 then? |
| [18:36:26] | wagnerrp: | or just 1 and 5? |
| [18:37:39] | pplmaker: | that i do not know, honestly |
| [18:37:51] | tgm4883: | traditionally, LTS was 3 years for the desktop and 5 years with the server. Starting with 12.04, LTS for both is 5 years. Mythbuntu however follows a ~2 year model. EG. we will build mythtv for LTS releases up to the next LTS release (and maybe a few months after that) |
| [18:38:08] | tgm4883: | and yes, LTS comes on even years in april |
| [18:38:31] | sphery: | yeah, LTS support for desktop has been extended to 5 years starting with 12.04 |
| [18:38:42] | sphery: | before it was 5yrs for server and 3yrs for desktop |
| [18:38:59] | sphery: | and now I see tgm4883 already said that :) |
| [18:39:17] | tgm4883: | Further, Mythbuntu won't be releasing ISO's for non-LTS versions, though we will still build mythtv for those releases |
| [18:39:54] | pplmaker: | do you guys upgrade when new versions come out? I never do because it breaks my hdpvr drivers and who wants to deal with that |
| [18:40:33] | ** wagnerrp doesnt run [myth|u]buntu ** | |
| [18:41:07] | pplmaker: | what does wagnerrp run? and why are we talking about wagnerrp in the 3rd person? |
| [18:41:22] | NewBuntu81: | i run fedora 14 as a backend, which i review and test patches on another box before deploying to my backend server. i've updated the frontends which use mythbuntu 11.04 currently. |
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| [18:41:55] | tgm4883: | I upgrade MythTV, not the entire distro |
| [18:42:06] | tgm4883: | although I do test installs on my frontends |
| [18:42:15] | NewBuntu81: | Since I keep nothing on the frontends, I'm not so worried about breaking them, which 11.10 did and why my frontends are still on 11.04. |
| [18:42:16] | tgm4883: | 10.04 on my backend though |
| [18:42:18] | pplmaker: | tgm4883: you run myth from source? |
| [18:42:23] | tgm4883: | pplmaker, no |
| [18:42:32] | tgm4883: | I run it from the Mythbuntu provided packages |
| [18:42:34] | ** wagnerrp runs freebsd ** | |
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| [18:43:16] | pplmaker: | mythtv @freebsd, that is a bachelor setup |
| [18:43:34] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [18:43:44] | NewBuntu81: | Does anyone use an RC6 protocol remote control with the 4 colored buttons, including a guide and info button? If so, what remote control are you using? What "driver" (lircd.conf) file are you using? |
| [18:44:07] | tgm4883: | although currently i'm running the Mythbuntu 0.25 builds on 10.04 |
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| [18:45:33] | tgm4883: | speaking of, how is the 0.25 release coming along? |
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| [18:47:26] | nysasounds: | Hi All , quick question. I have just added s couple of HD tv inputs to a set-up that already has three standard definition inputs (all are dvb-t). |
| [18:47:28] | nysasounds: | How do I tell mythtv not to try and use the standard def cards to tune the HD channels. |
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| [18:48:00] | NewBuntu81: | remove those channels on the non-hd cards? |
| [18:48:02] | jams: | wagnerrp- i did. depending on how the work week goes, i hope to get smoon running this week. |
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| [18:48:39] | NewBuntu81: | or maybe use priorities on the standard cards to set those channels as low as possible (-99, etc.) |
| [18:49:22] | nysasounds: | Currently they are all connected to one input source. |
| [18:49:24] | nysasounds: | Do I need to create more than one input source? |
| [18:50:32] | nysasounds: | I'm not sure that priorities is what I'm looking for here. I don't mind the cards being used for any of the other channels. |
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| [18:51:09] | tgm4883: | IIRC, you need separate inputs |
| [18:51:10] | nysasounds: | If weight things in faour of the HD cards , they will end up being used got standard def and be tied up when I wnat HD. |
| [18:52:07] | nysasounds: | Ok – thanks chaps. I'll try messing around with an extra input source :) |
| [18:53:19] | sphery: | nysasounds: don't use channel or input priorities--that doesn't work the way people think it works |
| [18:53:40] | sphery: | nysasounds: the best solution is to upgrade to 0.25rc1, then set the Live TV and recording order for your cards |
| [18:54:34] | sphery: | nysasounds: the solution for 0.24-fixes is to Delete all capture cards (not "Delete all capture cards on <hostname>"), then add then back with things in a particular order--but it's way more complex than just updating to 0.25rc1 and setting LIve TV and recording order |
| [18:56:17] | nysasounds: | Ahh – thanks shery. I didn't realise that 0.25 was introducing something like that. |
| [18:56:19] | nysasounds: | I'll check it out. |
| [18:56:23] | sphery: | (and if you set any channel priorities, unset them--unless you really mean to say, "I would rather record garbage from this higher-priority channel than record my favorite show from this lower-priority channel" :) |
| [18:56:28] | nysasounds: | *sphery :) |
| [18:56:53] | sphery: | the delete all capture cards will unset input priorities, but if you upgrade to 0.25rc1, you can just unset them (all back to 0) |
| [18:57:52] | sphery: | nysasounds: and note that you can have a different order for live tv and recordings, too (but that with 0.25rc1, MythTV will allow you to switch from one input to another when an input is locked to a mux, so you don't need to) |
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| [19:06:06] | tgm4883: | sphery, how is 0.25 looking for release? |
| [19:06:29] | Oleg_: | it was supposed to be released today |
| [19:06:39] | wagnerrp: | see mailing list announce |
| [19:06:48] | wagnerrp: | pushed back a week to resolve some outstanding livetv issues |
| [19:07:02] | tgm4883: | yea I saw that |
| [19:07:12] | tgm4883: | I didn't see it was 1 week though |
| [19:08:03] | sphery: | tgm4883: yeah, I've been traveling for a week, so I'm just catching up, but it looks like next monday |
| [19:08:15] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [19:08:19] | sphery: | when do you guys pick the revision for 12.04? |
| [19:08:29] | tgm4883: | that will still give us time to get it into 12.04 |
| [19:08:34] | sphery: | looks like the main fixes this week will be for live tv |
| [19:08:39] | tgm4883: | final freeze is april 12th |
| [19:08:53] | tgm4883: | so pretty soon |
| [19:08:56] | sphery: | ah, good--since live tv is pretty much the first experience new users (who don't know to enable mythbuntu repos for -fixes updates) will have |
| [19:09:04] | wagnerrp: | oh? i thought you guys were locked in months ago |
| [19:09:27] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, feature freeze was months ago |
| [19:09:32] | sphery: | they're "mostly" locked, AIUI, but we have *buntu packagers with pull helping us out |
| [19:09:36] | tgm4883: | but we put 0.25 in before that |
| [19:09:45] | tgm4883: | so we can keep doing fixes to it |
| [19:10:02] | sphery: | yeah, and you guys have to do some paperwork to update the revision you pull or something? |
| [19:10:26] | tgm4883: | sphery, only if it's after final freeze |
| [19:10:31] | tgm4883: | or after release |
| [19:10:44] | tgm4883: | it's a bunch of work to get a Stable Release Update (SRU) |
| [19:10:45] | sphery: | ah, ok |
| [19:10:58] | sphery: | anyway, I'm glad you're working to get the final 0.25 in |
| [19:11:04] | tgm4883: | yep |
| [19:11:15] | sphery: | especially with the LTS schedule for Mythbuntu |
| [19:11:16] | tgm4883: | we figure LTS we should get the latest in |
| [19:11:20] | tgm4883: | exactly |
| [19:11:40] | sphery: | I'd hate to have 2yrs of pre-0.23 like (since our prerelease version was so buggy) |
| [19:12:05] | tgm4883: | well we wouldn't do that again since we are doing LTS only ISO's now |
| [19:12:19] | tgm4883: | we'd do the SRU then catch 12.04.1 |
| [19:12:33] | sphery: | ah |
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| [19:19:07] | NewBuntu81: | Is there any way to set up mythtv to save recordings in a folder (each show gets its own folder), and to name the file the title of the show? |
| [19:20:09] | wagnerrp: | yes, no |
| [19:20:37] | wagnerrp: | you can create a new recording group for each rule, named after the show the rule will record |
| [19:20:46] | wagnerrp: | but thats really a lot of work for no gain |
| [19:20:58] | wagnerrp: | and mythtv will only record to its own internal format |
| [19:21:11] | NewBuntu81: | ok, just figured i'd ask. |
| [19:21:12] | wagnerrp: | if you want a human-readable format, use mythlink.pl |
| [19:22:40] | NewBuntu81: | i've been reading up on options to get some of my favorite shows into mp4 compatability for ipod video. there were several projects like this but many seemed to have stopped/been cancelled. are any of you using such a program, and is it possible to perhaps program which shows to automatically save a copy as mp4 too? |
| [19:23:06] | NewBuntu81: | i've been traveling a lot so i wan't more "shows" that i can easily copy to my ipod |
| [19:23:27] | wagnerrp: | you can create a user job, and have that user job automatically run for a recording and produce the mp4 |
| [19:24:29] | NewBuntu81: | ok. what add-in do i need to install for this option? |
| [19:24:38] | NewBuntu81: | or is it installed by default? |
| [19:24:48] | wagnerrp: | there is no add on, there is nothing to install |
| [19:25:00] | wagnerrp: | you go into mythtv-setup, general configuration, and specify a user job |
| [19:25:11] | wagnerrp: | then you set the recording rule to automatically run that user job |
| [19:29:13] | NewBuntu81: | ok, i see the option for user jobs. what command can I search google for to help me with automatically converting shows to mp4? |
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| [19:29:41] | wagnerrp: | handbrakecli should do it |
| [19:29:49] | wagnerrp: | or you can look into mythexport and nuvexport |
| [19:31:14] | lurker: | Or you could read about ffmpeg. I think it has an option dedicated to ipod. |
| [19:31:48] | wagnerrp: | or use nuvexport, which uses that ffmpeg option dedicated to ipod |
| [19:32:09] | NewBuntu81: | great. thanks |
| [19:32:10] | wagnerrp: | or look into the new HLS code and how to use mythtranscode to generate a compatible file directly |
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| [20:10:13] | skd5aner: | hmmm, since yesterday, all new emails into my gmail account are showing up as read, anyone else seeing the same? |
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| [20:13:10] | skd5aner: | Matches: * |
| [20:13:11] | skd5aner: | Do this: Mark as read |
| [20:13:21] | skd5aner: | nice – now tell me how a filter got applied that I didn't put there :P |
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| [21:05:39] | sphery: | So, did anyone have MythTV working on the Sony Vaio Q? I know the AMD GPU isn't ideal, but it would be extremely portable, so if I can do software decode and Xv, I might get one: http://discover.store.sony.com/q/sony_content.html (though it seems maybe they were only available yesterday, so may have to get one on eBay) |
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| [21:07:24] | pplmaker: | i'm so happy 4/1 was on a weekend this year so i didnt have to hear too much of this nonsense |
| [21:11:46] | sphery: | yeah, they're better when you get to see them after the fact |
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| [21:12:46] | ** kormoc munches on some unicorn meat ** | |
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| [21:13:08] | sphery: | kormoc: did you get your hungry, hungry hippos for the iPad? |
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| [21:13:22] | sphery: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/looflirpa/ee0b/?i=front |
| [21:13:25] | kormoc: | I don't do tablets sadly |
| [21:13:58] | sphery: | that's ok, seems they still have to actually make one (kind of like the ton ton sleeping bag) |
| [21:14:55] | sphery: | I'm guessing there won't be as much of an outcry to make this one real, though |
| [21:17:25] | skd5aner: | thinkgeek is the only april fools where I actually say "damn, that's actually freakin cool" |
| [21:17:56] | sphery: | yeah, they have some good ideas for theirs |
| [21:18:07] | sphery: | the best ones are the ones that actually become real later--like the unicorn meat |
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| [21:33:16] | skd5aner: | sphery: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/510749&nbs p;– I'm assuming you're telling him to turn browse mode off, right? |
| [21:33:51] | skd5aner: | because, I've come to like browse mode and would think it makes a reasonable default, but it is one of the few settings where I think it'd probably be a toss-up... some people would hate it, some people would love it |
| [21:34:39] | skd5aner: | It might be one of those settings that actually makes sense to stay – although I would say maybe more as a "power user" thing if such a capability was ever built out to have a "simple" and "advanced" settings page |
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| [21:43:35] | kisak: | afternoon, if I run a recording through ffmpeg -acodec copy -vcodec copy, all that changes is the container and the headers, right? |
| [21:44:19] | kisak: | and if I follow ffmpeg with mythcommflag --rebuild, mythtv should play it properly, right? |
| [21:48:28] | kisak: | I have three recordings on mythtv 0.25 (from 20120223) which do not playback in realtime through Watch Recordings, but do play fine with the internal player via the Watch Videos menu |
| [21:48:49] | kisak: | they play slow |
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| [22:03:07] | kisak: | hmm ... Manual of Style is referenced in the yellow header on the wiki, but it does not exist |
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| [22:09:05] | pyrodex: | Question: With recent commit d0df4ce8ee416f3aa37bb04bc4be30b9cb2b8456 it seems the format in logging has changed for TVRec as it pertains to recording messages. When the recording is done now it is difficult to determine the show the recording was going for since the Title is no longer in the finished message. Was this desired or by accident with this commit? |
| [22:17:21] | sphery: | skd5aner: yeah, because if you can't tell your system to lock up for 5–15s every time you hit up or down, it's not a usable tv interface ;) |
| [22:17:57] | sphery: | and imagine the sheer amount of effort that a user would have to exert to hit SELECT, too |
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| [22:19:08] | sphery: | anyway, can't remove any settings--seems only torc can |
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| [22:24:58] | pyrodex: | yea something is funky with that commit and recording messages now... |
| [22:25:17] | pyrodex: | looks like the changes in line 809 and 810 did it |
| [22:27:29] | sphery: | pyrodex: might want to ask danielk if it's doing as he intended... could ask on -dev list or possibly on irc if you catch him when he has some time |
| [22:27:54] | sphery: | that said, though, what are you trying to do in watching the logs? |
| [22:28:04] | sphery: | there's a good chance there's a better way to do what you want |
| [22:29:07] | sphery: | (for example system events may be what you really want?) |
| [22:30:07] | pyrodex: | I wrote a script that is run as a userjob at the end of a recording to check for discontinity errors and if any are found it forgets that recording for a potentially cleaner recording |
| [22:30:12] | pyrodex: | I only do that for shows I archive. |
| [22:30:24] | pyrodex: | So i had to adjust my logic a bit and fixed my scripts |
| [22:30:30] | sphery: | well, 0.25 has built-in discontinuity detection |
| [22:30:53] | pyrodex: | Yes... But every recording I've had done with errors >0 and even some in the 2000s it still considers good. |
| [22:31:00] | pyrodex: | and doesn't reschedule them |
| [22:31:13] | sphery: | but doesn't the userjob have all the info you need to find out what recording it's being run for? |
| [22:31:59] | pyrodex: | It does but I had a search string on the job title in the logging of the DB and ran into an issue by using Title to search for it since the old string used title. I converted to the unique string (chanid+recstart time) and it's working again |
| [22:32:13] | pyrodex: | just didn't know if it was the desired behavior of the change in that commit |
| [22:32:31] | pyrodex: | since the string was already found in the details and a title would make a easier correlation for some users when reporting issues. |
| [22:33:23] | sphery: | yeah, not sure what danielk wanted--I have as much info as you do (and since there's no explanation in the message...) |
| [22:34:21] | pyrodex: | just an observation from a troubleshooting standpoint. |
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| [22:36:22] | sphery: | I can only guess that it makes it easier for danielk to troubleshoot other people's systems--perhaps because they have multiple recordings of the same show (or for the multiple files per show (including dummy file) stuff) |
| [22:37:14] | pyrodex: | understood |
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| [22:39:19] | sphery: | but asking on -dev list would allow him to better explain reasoning to us all--rather than my guesses :) |
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| [22:40:08] | sphery: | (by which I'm trying to say that I'm not trying to discourage you from asking or to say that it's good how it is--I'm just making guesses) |
| [22:40:18] | pyrodex: | heheh |
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| [23:02:38] | jm|laptop: | did I miss something today? |
| [23:02:47] | jm|laptop: | Apr 2, 2012 |
| [23:03:22] | knightr: | jm|laptop, release has been delayed... |
| [23:03:27] | jm|laptop: | ah ok :) |
| [23:03:56] | knightr: | it should be release at or close to the 9th... |
| [23:04:07] | knightr: | s/release/released |
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| [23:32:50] | DarthFrog: | For adding more storage space, is there any advantage in building a secondary backend (with no tuner cards) or a NAS box instead? |
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| [23:41:43] | kisak: | DarthFrog: it's best to have a direct connection to the recording backend if possible |
| [23:43:56] | kisak: | DarthFrog: you'd need to NFS mount (or whatever method you need) the storage space to record to it, the only advantage you'd get out of running a slave backend is the option to commflag or transcode using the slave backend |
| [23:43:59] | DarthFrog: | kisak: The soon to be master backend is already stuffed with drives. :-) |
| [23:44:11] | kisak: | DarthFrog: I know that feeling |
| [23:45:11] | kisak: | DarthFrog: if I had money, I'd get a 4 drive esata external raid enclosure and make myself a 2x2TB raid5 |
| [23:45:13] | DarthFrog: | I've got about twenty or so ex-server drives gathering dust. I want to re-purpose them. So it's either a FreeNAS box or a secondary backend. |
| [23:46:23] | kisak: | DarthFrog: if you do not intend to run jobs on the slave backend, then there is no point in it running mythbackend |
| [23:46:31] | DarthFrog: | My cable provider is dropping analogue in a few weeks so I have to put digital boxes in front of my tuner cards. This obsoletes my second master backend so I'm taking the tuner cards from it and turning it into a storage system. |
| [23:47:07] | kisak: | DarthFrog: there can only be one ... master backend |
| [23:47:24] | DarthFrog: | The new frontend box and master backend will have far more horsepower than the storage box. Thanks for the advice, so FreeNAS it is. |
| [23:47:31] | kisak: | (sorry, too much Highlander recently) |
| [23:47:42] | DarthFrog: | Right now, I've got two master backends. |
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| [23:49:56] | DarthFrog: | I've already mytharchived the recordings of the machine that's being removed from service. Is there any way, when I import the mytharchives, to automatically change the recording group (from Default to something else) for several hundred recordings simultaneously? |
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| [23:50:26] | kisak: | DarthFrog: from my experience, NFS soft mount when you can, so if there is a connection issue, you can force unmount the NFS share and get things back into shape, and any sort of post processing on 10/100 is able to bog down NFS to the point that you get damaged recordings |
| [23:50:56] | DarthFrog: | Yeah, I see no advantage in a hard mount for this purpose. |
| [23:51:54] | kisak: | DarthFrog: as for mytharchive, I have not gotten into that and have no insight to help you with that |
| [23:52:18] | DarthFrog: | Thanks anyway. |
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| [23:53:53] | DarthFrog: | the only post-processing I do is commercial flagging. |
| [23:55:16] | DarthFrog: | We also have a HD PVR from the cable co. We call it Homer, cuz it's braindead compared to MythTV. :-) |
| [23:55:30] | DarthFrog: | MythTV has spoiled us. :-) |
| [23:58:26] | kisak: | DarthFrog: for a while I had to increase my space and I didn't have the budget to swap drives, so I delt with NFS and that setup didn't treat me well, ending with one of the NFS drives (soft) failing and about 16 hours spent recovering recordings |
| [23:58:55] | DarthFrog: | Was it a hardware or software problem? |
| [23:59:04] | kisak: | hardware |
| [23:59:27] | DarthFrog: | Then NFS is irrelevant in that case. |
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