Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Wednesday, March 28th, 2012, 00:09 UTC

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Twiggy2cents:

Where did iamlindora go?

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Twiggy2cents:

s/iamlindora/iamlindoro

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Twiggy2cents:

I believe that is his nick

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Beirdo:

he went to Torc

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Twiggy2cents:

What is Torc?

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Beirdo:

a fork

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Beirdo:

well, in real life, it's a celtic necklace or armband type of thing... but in this context.

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Twiggy2cents:

Hmm so was it a fork due to disagreement or that is just where he felt he needed to be?

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Beirdo:

I'm not getting into it. Not in the mood right now :)

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Beirdo:

sorry

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Beirdo:

anyways, time for me to head home.

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Twiggy2cents:

Okay, at least I found out a little ;)

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sphery:

wagnerrp: wow, I was expecting $4K-$5K, but not $8K

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wagnerrp:

huh?

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wagnerrp:

oh, the OLED

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wagnerrp:

xris, Beirdo, jya: so... do we get more likes from facebook, twitter, reddit, or g+?

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wagnerrp:

http://xkcd.com/1034/

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xris:

none of the above? wonder if we get *any*

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wagnerrp:

(see link)

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xris:

yeah. I thought you meant literally

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sphery:

wagnerrp: hehe, yeah, the OLED TV

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sphery:

wagnerrp: re #10510, did you notice that some of the hostname columns are case-sensitive in mysql?

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wagnerrp:

no i did not

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sphery:

specifically storagegroup

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wagnerrp:

i have a patch that bypasses the issue entirely

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wagnerrp:

but i need to read through it and make sure its not going to cause any weird implications on startup

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sphery:

ah, wait, that's a dirname that's case-sensitive

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sphery:

nvm

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wagnerrp:

no, hostname

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wagnerrp:

well, one of them is hostname

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wagnerrp:

or are you saying the database thing is directory name?

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sphery:

just remembered something in storagegroup was case-sensitive in the db

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sphery:

db thing is storagegroup.dirname

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sphery:

(which makes sense, since most (real) file systems are case sensitive)

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sphery:

wonder if ReFS finally adds case-sensitivity or continues with faking it

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wagnerrp:

http://pastebin.com/bDTPs4pf

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wagnerrp:

my concern is whether there could be an instance where gCoreContext exists, but the database is not yet available

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sphery:

what about the (shouldn't be there) nodb mode for mythcommflag?

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sphery:

feel free to rip that out if you need to :)

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wagnerrp:

where is that?

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sphery:

skipdb it seems

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wagnerrp:

no, i mean who mentioned that?

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sphery:

oh, I'm just asking

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wagnerrp:

if youre not accessing the DB, you shouldnt be touching any backend either

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sphery:

seems to me that might be the only time... unless we actually avoid creating a context, then, too

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wagnerrp:

and IMHO, if that breaks databaseless mythcommflag, so be it

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sphery:

though I don't know the startup stuff

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sphery:

yeah, I don't mind if it breaks "I'm too good to use mythtv, but I'm still using mythcommflag"

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BLZbubba:

where do i adjust the ff/rewind skip times? 5 seconds is not enough

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williammanda:

need some help....what are these ports used for 6549 and 6948?

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wagnerrp:

6548 is the UDP message port, not sure about 6549

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wagnerrp:

a quick 'git grep 6549' should tell you

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williammanda:

ty

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wagnerrp:

are you asking in reference to firewalls?

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williammanda:

y

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wagnerrp:

none of mythtv's ports should be open externally

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wagnerrp:

they cannot be considered secure

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Beirdo:

[12189]

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MythLogBot:

SVN 12189: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/5972984e

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: BTW, 127/8 is all loopback

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Beirdo:

not jsut .0.0.1

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Beirdo:

just almost nobody uses anything but .0.0.1 :)

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wagnerrp:

its simply not an option to individually listen on each of those 16M addresses

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Beirdo:

agreed ;)

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wagnerrp:

and im not going to start adding special case addresses into the serverpool

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Beirdo:

just thought you might wanna know in case some jackhole comes up with another non-working one

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wagnerrp:

and as far as 127/8 being all loopback, at least my BSD systems only respond to 127.0.0.1

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Beirdo:

now... I think I have a fix in the works...

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Beirdo:

for the DTS audio fun

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** wagnerrp holds his BSD systems as the gold standard for proper configuration, nevermind what these fly-by-night linux blends think **

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wagnerrp:

:)

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Beirdo:

hah, big mistake :)

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Beirdo:

OMG, stop it with the join flood already

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wagnerrp:

seriously, who's even heard of debian?

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wagnerrp:

bah

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wagnerrp:

was going to, but apparently 'wagnerrp' is not a channel

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Beirdo:

give him a bit of time, and it will get removed :)

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: we could revise the loopback selector to automatically reset any 127/8 connections back to 127.0.0.1

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Beirdo:

yeah. hehe

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sphery:

wagnerrp: debian? isn't that the group of people who had to fix that broken bsd openssl code so that it would be easier to hack?

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Beirdo:

and the people that brought us icedove and iceweasel

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wagnerrp:

was debian the origin of icecast and icewm?

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Beirdo:

doubtful

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sphery:

hehe, I have to admit that I agree with debian on refusing the firefox TM license

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** sphery runs his "Nightly" proudly **

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sphery:

thought when they switched to just callign it Aurora and not giving it new project names (based on parks around the world) that it would be Aurora forever, but with the recent changes to dev/branching, it's Nightly in 11.0

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sphery:

I suppose that's why Debian goes to the trouble of actually replacing the "built-in" name--so that it's constant across upgrades (rather than Deer Park, Bon Echo, Gran Paradiso, Shiretoko, Namoroka, Tumucumaque, Aurora, and now Nightly)

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sphery:

hehe, context diff in #10504 is confusing a user

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Beirdo:

OK then.

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Beirdo:

let's try THIS again

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Beirdo:

that's more like it

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wagnerrp:

sphery: didnt know there was a wiki page detailing that

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wagnerrp:

although thats likely some utility worth building into the backend web setup at some point

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wagnerrp:

a short wizard, with a 'recordings have been moved'/'recordings are to be moved for me'/'recordings are to be discarded' option

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wagnerrp:

potentially with a "with rerecord" option on that last one

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operat0r:

wee

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** wagnerrp adds that that to his todo **

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operat0r:

what do ya know updated to 24 and now analog is fail

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operat0r:

thats what I get for messing with it ...

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wagnerrp:

you could have updated to 0.23.2

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wagnerrp:

or you could post logs as to what is failing

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wagnerrp:

also note, mythtv will have automatically made a database backup should you wish to revert

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operat0r:

it keeps defualting to channel 40 for some @#$%ing reason even when I go back and save it ... works fine unless I change the channel .. ill post logs if I can't ge tit working

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operat0r:

lulz ... ok now its recording channel 2 .. .. at least I got it to change chans

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wagnerrp:

livetv will always go to your last tuned channel, recorded content will simply go straight to where it wants

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wagnerrp:

if for whatever reason you get stuck on a channel, with the UI locked and unable to change

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wagnerrp:

you can alter the start channel in mythtv-setup

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wagnerrp:

which on systems other than ubuntu can be done without restarting the backend

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operat0r:

ya its pissed with watch TV i think .. still testing

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operat0r:

Yup it will record fine just can't change channel in live TV

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operat0r:

http://rmccurdy.com/stuff/bail.txt still looking into it

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operat0r:

as long as it records I dont care .. just does not like switching inside of watch TV

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operat0r:

from that bail.txt file it looks like audio is pissed off ?

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wagnerrp:

looks more like connection issues between the frontend and backend

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operat0r:

frontend and backend are both local :P BRB reboot

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Beirdo:

crap

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Beirdo:

trac hook doesn't seem to wanna work

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wagnerrp:

trac hook probably isnt installed

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Beirdo:

or maybe github is a retard

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Beirdo:

and never sent it

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: i never installed the github hooks, and they werent installed yesterday

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Beirdo:

could be.

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wagnerrp:

so unless youve done it in the meantime...

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Beirdo:

I haven't

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Beirdo:

K

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Beirdo:

fair enough

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wagnerrp:

i was holding off on that

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DeviceZer0:

thanks again wagnerrp :)

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wagnerrp:

in case we wanted to hook it directly into our repo now

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wagnerrp:

connection issues resolved?

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Beirdo:

yeah, it's only gonna be a week and it will be a different hook

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DeviceZer0:

should be yea wagnerrp....not sure what was up. Had to reboot the router.

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Beirdo:

welcome back, DeviceZer0. I was going to remove the temporary ban for your flopping, but looks like I forgot. :)

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DeviceZer0:

hehe no worries :)

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wagnerrp:

mysql why do you hate me so

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wagnerrp:

"You have an error in your SQL syntax'

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wagnerrp:

well thanks...

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wagnerrp:

ah hah! so thats why everyone uses '`' characters around field names

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wagnerrp:

er... nope

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

that reminds me

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Beirdo:

2012-03–27 19:15:28.759108 E [15286/15286] CoreContext mythdbcon.cpp:648 (exec) – Original query failed, but resend with empty strings in place of NULL strings worked.

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Beirdo:

on every bloody transcode run

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Beirdo:

let me go fix that bugger

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Beirdo:

or just put in a ticket. It's not crucial, and I'm tired

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wagnerrp:

stupid lousy '`' characters

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[R]:

theres 2 words you should never one

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[R]:

one is swell, and the other is lousy

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[R]:

"ok, well which is the lousy one?"

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wagnerrp:

?

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[R]:

its from i love lucy

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[R]:

they were taking a manners course, and thats what the teacher said

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wagnerrp:

the '`' character, its full of lice, hence lousy

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[R]:

and ethel asked which was the lousy word

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wagnerrp:

its like a ', but chewed up by the lice and smaller

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[R]:

lol

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[R]:

is backtick the programming word, or is that the real name?

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wagnerrp:

the real name is "lousy single quote"

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jya:

sphery: is there a way to specify which playback profile to use from the command line ? To override any default setting?

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wagnerrp:

you could override the specific option with -O

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wagnerrp:

or --override-settings-file

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wagnerrp:

or you could run an independent profile keyed off LocaleHostName

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jya:

wagnerrp: I know that.. the problem is which setting name to override

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wagnerrp:

or you could adjust it as desired from the 'm' menu

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jya:

I'm trying to create a mythavtest that doesn't use any database connection at all (so I can give a copy to Apple so they can reproduce the VDA kernel panic)

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wagnerrp:

DefaultVideoPlaybackProfile ?

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jya:

you can change the playback profile from within the playback ?

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jya:

didn't know that

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wagnerrp:

i noticed the other day you could set the deinterlace options

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wagnerrp:

i dont know if you can specifically set the playback profile

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jya:

I doubt that would work in what I'm attempting to do anyway.. as I would have no database for which it can retrieve the profiles

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wagnerrp:

you probably want to create a new LocalHostName, configure it how you want

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wagnerrp:

and then dump all the resultant options into an override settings file

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wagnerrp:

but that still only works for the 'settings' table

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wagnerrp:

those playback profiles wont even exist in the first place

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wagnerrp:

they will have never been created

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jya:

oh.. so you mean it's possible to read the settings from a file?

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jya:

that would be the simplest.

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wagnerrp:

mythavtest --help override-settings-file

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jya:

like create a dummy database, start a new config and run it

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wagnerrp:

i *think* its just a bit key=value list

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jya:

much much easier than what I started to work on...

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wagnerrp:

but thats still only going to get you the settings table

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jya:

I don't need anything else

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wagnerrp:

you need the playback profiles

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jya:

those will be in the settings table

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wagnerrp:

the chosen playback profile will be in the settings table

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jya:

aren't the profiles themselves set in the database?

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wagnerrp:

displayprofiles and displayprofilegroup tables

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jya:

how do you generate the settings file from the database ?

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wagnerrp:

i was thinking just write a simple script

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wagnerrp:

cursor.execute("""SELECT key,data FROM settings WHERE hostname=<whatever>""")

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wagnerrp:

for k,v in cursor.fetchall(): print "{0}={1}".format(k,v)

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jya:

let me try that.

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wagnerrp:

those will pre-configure all the settings, so it will pull from the cache, rather than fall through to the database

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wagnerrp:

however as mentioned, that will just let you tell mythavtest what profile to use

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wagnerrp:

mythavtest wont actually know what that profile is without the database

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jya:

yeah.. that's okay.. I can hack the code quickly to use a static profile I've defined myself

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wagnerrp:

ok

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jya:

damn.. sphery gave me a special command line to run so I wouldn't see "Not allowed to upgrade the database."

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jya:

but I can't remember

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jya:

allright… finally have my database up and running… gosh, took forever

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jya:

wagnerrp: cursor.execute("""SELECT key,data FROM settings WHERE hostname=<whatever>""") gives my a You have an error in your SQL syntax

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jya:

or is that shell stuff?

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jya:

ah, it's value,data insteal

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clever:

jya: i think its because key is a keyword, if you quoted it as `key`, it would have said no such column

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: if you're up... the front page of the wiki lies :)

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Beirdo:

latest development is 0.25-rc, not beta :)

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dekarl:

Beirdo, but its a wiki. can you not fix it? :D

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Beirdo:

no

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Beirdo:

the front page is locked to be changed by admins only

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Beirdo:

and the other pages won't let me save at all.

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Beirdo:

so much for sharing my logrotate config tonight

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dekarl:

Ohh, I thought it would be using the template for {{latest-and-greatest}}. (btw, was being rhetorical wrt not being able to save)

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Beirdo:

yeah well :)

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Beirdo:

the wiki's borked right now, it seems to me

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Beirdo:

and I just pruned out about 3G of old logs

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Beirdo:

bedtime for me

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dekarl:

worktime for me

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justinh:

looks like I'm going to be getting some kind of linuxy support role in addition to all the other hats I wear at work

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justinh:

supporting a management system,which compared to installing mythtv on stage 1 gentoo after patching a kernel looks like a piece of cake til you realise that you'll be dealing with customers who are actually *scared* of linux

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EvilGuru:

What is support for DVB-T2 like? I have a PCTV 290e that I've been meaning to try out for a while

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adam_112:

I'm trying to watch liveTV .24 with fixes. Getting the following – 2012-03–28 00:04:53.468 HDHRSH(13128D8C-0) Error: UpdateFilters called in wrong tune mode. FYI: I can record and view. Most of the time LIveTV plays for 5 sec then freezes. Then I eventually get a buffer error.

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adam_112:

also seeing this in the frontend – 2012-03–28 00:04:55.210 RingBuf(/var/lib/mythtv/livetv/1573_20120328000453.mpg) Warning: Taking too long to be allowed to read..

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adam_112:

One last thing – I'm also getting this – 2012-03–28 00:04:52.799 We have a playbackURL(/var/lib/mythtv/livetv/1573_20120328000452.mpg) & cardtype(DUMMY)

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adam_112:

anybody alive in here? :)

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RagingMind:

it's IRC... it can take anywhere between 0.3 seconds to a couple hours for someone to notice a message and respond ;)

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Beirdo:

neeed. slleeeeeep

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skd5aner:

So, if I win the $500m mega millions lottery, I'll make a nice donation to the MythTV foundation

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skd5aner:

just saying

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skd5aner:

Beirdo: would it be easily possible have mythlogbot spit out a link if someone reference a ticket number?

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nocarrier1969:

Anybody happen to be working on ticket 9830? I can't change channels at all (single tuner on a pvr-500) with what appears to be that same issue, and I offer myself as a debugging guinea pig if it would help...

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nocarrier1969:

(nice timing skd5aner)

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skd5aner:

I'm a good straight man

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skd5aner:

nocarrier1969: I believe danielk is actively working it

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nocarrier1969:

Thanks, does he go by that here in irc?

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skd5aner:

it's marked as a blocker, and he's taken on several tickets related to channel changing issues in the last week or so

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skd5aner:

he's not in this channel, but yes... that's his nick

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wagnerrp:

skd5aner: more difficult than the commit thing, but not impossible

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wagnerrp:

right now, trac is using an internal sqlite database

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wagnerrp:

it would be a lot easier to accomplish were it using a mysql one

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skd5aner:

Well, I just meant that if someone says "It's attached to #9900" that mythlogbot just does a reply with http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9900

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skd5aner:

just a simple parse

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wagnerrp:

ah, that would be doable

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skd5aner:

I don't even care if it's a dumb parse with no logic to determine if they were actually referencing a ticket number or not...

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skd5aner:

just anything that starts with a # followed by numbers

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skd5aner:

unlikely to be an irc channel in that case

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skd5aner:

and if it's anything else, oh well... false positives won't really get in the way I wouldn't think

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skd5aner:

Beirdo: ^ :)

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Beirdo:

it can be done, but not this week :)

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wagnerrp:

beirdobot... "Last updated a year ago"

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wagnerrp:

been forgetting to push those commits like with nuvexport?

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skd5aner:

Beirdo: gotcha, next week it is!

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Beirdo:

heh, no, it just rarely needs a tweak

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wagnerrp:

all the changes youve been making have been sql bits?

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Beirdo:

what changes?

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wagnerrp:

new URLs and the like

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Beirdo:

yeah, that's driven from an SQL table

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Beirdo:

no code changes required

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wagnerrp:

hmm...

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wagnerrp:

boo...

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wagnerrp:

its not installed

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Beirdo:

hehe, and enabling that is also done by config

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Beirdo:

if I even installed that plugin

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Beirdo:

I did

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adam_112:

I've setup a new mythtv box. Having for stream and playing livetv locally. Getting frame buffer errors etc....

[19:02:40]

skd5aner:

!trout wagnerrp

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** MythLogBot slaps wagnerrp with a trout on behalf of skd5aner... **

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skd5aner:

you've upset him

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skd5aner:

not sure why he says it was on my behalf

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** MythLogBot farts back at Beirdo **

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Beirdo:

there, happy? :)

[19:03:37]

Beirdo:

!fart

[19:03:53]

Beirdo:

hmm, oh right

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adam_112:

Is there anything else I can provide that might help?

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skd5aner:

adam_112: -v playback on mythfrontend and --version into a pastebin

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Beirdo:

Removing fart...

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Beirdo:

hehe

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adam_112:

2012-03–27 23:45:36.876 mythfrontend version: fixes/0.24 [v0.24.2-26-g7b992ca] www.mythtv.org

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adam_112:

From the logs.

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peterpops12:

Hi, I have som trouble setting up lirc. I can se the codes with mode2 --device=/dev/lirc0 but not with irw ?

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wagnerrp:

if mode2 picks up the signals, but not irw

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wagnerrp:

it means your lircd.conf has not been programmed properly to recognize those signals and forward them on to irw

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo, skd5aner: http://pastebin.com/fQESFv0G

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peterpops12:

wagnerrp: ok, could you check my lircd.conf? im not so familiar with it. http://pastebin.com/7ypwBz1A

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wagnerrp:

peterpops: do those codes line up with what you are seeing through mode2?

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wagnerrp:

if not, you may consider creating a new lircd.conf using irrecord

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wagnerrp:

is lircd actually running?

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wagnerrp:

and is it listening to the correct device?

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Beirdo:

problem... we already have a trac plugin :)

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Beirdo:

it did svn + trac

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Beirdo:

but that does look like it :)

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wagnerrp:

fine then rename the functions... :O

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wagnerrp:

erm... :P

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Beirdo:

nah, no problem, we'll work with it

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: cool, you da man

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wagnerrp:

thats a very sizeable plugin for trac

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peterpops12:

wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/gGePUER2. Thats the output of mode2...

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Beirdo:

yeah, it had svn functionality in it

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peterpops12:

wagnerrp: yes lirc is running. How to know if it is listening to correct device?

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Beirdo:

let me hook this in :)

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Beirdo:

gonna call it tracredir.c

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skd5aner:

peterpops: ps aux | grep lircd and see what it says it's listening too

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wagnerrp:

feel free to make the legalese at the top more proper :)

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skd5aner:

#9999

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skd5aner:

oh, man... it doesn't work yet?!

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skd5aner:

geeze

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skd5aner:

;)

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wagnerrp:

might want to make the regular expression lower bounded at 4 characters

[19:25:52]

skd5aner:

I thought it was ok to demand instant gratification in today's society

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wagnerrp:

no sense responding to anything older than that

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gregL:

Question: Whats the difference between , Delete all capture Cards or Delete all Capture cards on server?

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wagnerrp:

gregL: one deletes all, the other deletes all on that specific server

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skd5aner:

(only relative if you have more than 1 backend with tuners on them)

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wagnerrp:

beirdobot has a lua interpreter?

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peterpops12:

wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/94vej1pJ

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gregL:

wagnerrp, Thanks

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wagnerrp:

yikes, does VDR put all of its configuration information in the command line?

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peterpops12:

wagerrp: yes...

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skd5aner:

/usr/sbin/lircd --nodaemon --uinput --output=/var/run/lirc/lircd.2022 --device=/dev/lirc0

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peterpops12:

skd5aner: Im trying irw /var/run/lirc/lircd.2022 but no output..

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skd5aner:

should you just type irw?

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** skd5aner hates troubleshooting lirc **

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peterpops12:

skd5aner: me too :(. trying just irw as well, but no output..

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wagnerrp:

WTH? one of the patches against #10514 does nothing but replace 4-space soft tabbing with 2-space

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: aye. I don't have it in use right now though

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wagnerrp:

Cardoe: is gentoo trying to make a push from python2 to python3?

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wagnerrp:

im just trying to figure out why this guy is making these changes

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wagnerrp:

for that matter, it doesnt even work in python3 as the single __cmp__ method has been removed in favor of rich comparisons

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justinh:

EvilGuru: from what I know, you're lucky if dvb-t2 is stable in linux – certainly not if you use a tuner for dvb-t and dvb-t2

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EvilGuru:

justinh: I remember some months ago that T2 was transparently hidden by the driver and presented as a T mplex

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Beirdo:

#8888

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/#8888 **

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Beirdo:

sooo close :)

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wagnerrp:

yeah, i didnt really understand what that CommandLineParse thing did

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wagnerrp:

i was hoping putting it in a () would be enough to extract

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wagnerrp:

since it seemed to ignore the [] around svn arguments

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justinh:

EvilGuru: hmm. anyway as far as I know mythtv will 'just work' with dvb-t2

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Beirdo:

#8888

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/ **

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Beirdo:

oops

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EvilGuru:

I may be completely off-base here, but is there still an arbitrary limit on the number of dvb frontend adapter thingies?

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wizbit:

sssh im trying to sleep, stop torcing

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wagnerrp:

dvb frontend adapter thingies....

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EvilGuru:

the /dev/adapter<n>/ device, for some reason I've got n = 4 as the max supported

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Beirdo:

#8888

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8888 **

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Beirdo:

bingo

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wagnerrp:

the frontends are something defined by the DVB drivers, nothing mythtv has control over

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wagnerrp:

if youre referring to mythtv's internal virtual tuners and multirec, yes, that is artificially limited at 5 per input

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EvilGuru:

wagnerrp: I meant frontends, sorry

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justinh:

when multirec came about I tested it with a hack set to 10 :-D

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wagnerrp:

frontends are a DVB thing, and nearly all cards will only provide one of them

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wagnerrp:

i think you might see multiple frontends on something that supports different types of DVB

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EvilGuru:

I've currently got four cards + a DVB-T2 stick to plug in

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wagnerrp:

i really dont know

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EvilGuru:

So might need to ditch one first

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wagnerrp:

the n in /dev/dvb/adapter<n> is just sequential numbering from udev

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wagnerrp:

add another DVB device, increment the number

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wagnerrp:

thats not going to be limited by the kernel or udev unless there is some limit within the driver itself

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justinh:

I think there's an arbitrary limit at 8 or something

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justinh:

remember seeing that in #linuxtv once

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Beirdo:

thank you, wagnerrp. New plugin in git.

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skd5aner:

Beirdo, wagnerrp: thanks for the ticket functionality, works in #mythtv too?

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Beirdo:

should

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wagnerrp:

thats a yes

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skd5aner:

This is a test, ticket #8888 is awesome

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8888 **

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skd5aner:

cool

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Beirdo:

or... #10510 is better than #10511

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10510 **

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10511 **

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Beirdo:

:)

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skd5aner:

nice test

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Beirdo:

regular expressions are fun

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skd5aner:

I like it...

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Beirdo:

later on, I'll probably extend it to have a separate URL per channel configurable (including disabling per channel)

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Beirdo:

but the svn/git one needs that too

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Beirdo:

and the luascript plugin needs a boot to the head. Seems like it didn't bootstrap its database schema correctly

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Beirdo:

maybe after the ffmpeg sync, I might give the bot a wee bit of love

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skd5aner:

you mean, so each individual can configure it on or off, or only at an all-or-nothing channel level?

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skd5aner:

cause, it gets pretty hold manually trying to look up tickets in either here or the other channel

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Beirdo:

so each channel can choose to have it on or orff

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Beirdo:

as opposed to globally on

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: kind of-ish

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skd5aner:

can't see why it'd make sense to have it on in one and off in another

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skd5aner:

but hey, I'm just an observer

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: You have the ability to do a setup like that.

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Beirdo:

this bot can sit on many channels at once, not necessarily on the same network

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skd5aner:

yea

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: You really need to rebase your initial seeder ebuilds with some updates I've done.

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Beirdo:

I could (for instance) put it on a channel for beirdobot itself and have it log

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Beirdo:

and obviously, the trac URL would be different

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wagnerrp:

Cardoe: are they in the main repo? ive been meaning to do updates for a while now

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Beirdo:

or even non-existant

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wagnerrp:

was likely going to do them tonight

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: I'm about to commit another update tonight or tomorrow

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: but yes

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: I believe the fix to tell Portage that you want to use Python 2 only is in the tree.

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wagnerrp:

python 3 only?

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: Some users have set their systems to prefer or use Python 3 always

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wagnerrp:

im talking about some tickets open with some guy patching a few of my scripts for python 3

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wagnerrp:

except... at least in one of them

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wagnerrp:

the scripts are just wrong

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Cardoe:

Unless the ebuild says this package installs python 2 bits.

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: he's just being a pain

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wagnerrp:

using string formatting no longer available in python 3, using comparison operators no longer available in python 3

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wagnerrp:

i mean my source uses them, and works fine for python 2

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: Send the stuff to /dev/null

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wagnerrp:

but it doesnt make sense why hes trying to push them for python 3 but not replacing them

[20:09:26]

Cardoe:

All my stuff uses Python 2

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wagnerrp:

im about to close one as wontfix, with my own updates that *should* be usable with both P2 and P3

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wagnerrp:

the other one will get closed wontfix sooner or later, replaced by a completely different script

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: I bet I know who it is too

[20:10:44]

wagnerrp:

gorillaoncrack

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wagnerrp:

anyway, if youve got a copy of those updates i can look at, send it over

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wagnerrp:

otherwise, ill hold off a day or two until you get them pushed upstream

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Cardoe:

in all my ebuilds I ahve this

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Cardoe:

pkg_setup() {

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Cardoe:

python_set_active_version 2

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Cardoe:

python_pkg_setup

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Cardoe:

}

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Cardoe:

Tells Portage that the bits its about to install are Python 2 bits

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Cardoe:

He's been opening bugs about that saying that Python scripts should be updated for 3.

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Cardoe:

wagnerrp: the updates are on my box at home. Can't get into it until I go home.

[20:12:45]

Cardoe:

wagnerrp: I'll hop on IRC and ping you when I get home.

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Cardoe:

otherwise just e-mail it or commit it to the tree

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wagnerrp:

by python scripts, do you mean the ones in the packaging repo or the bindings and metadata scripts?

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Cardoe:

binding/metadata

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wagnerrp:

bleh

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wagnerrp:

im going to need to redo the bindings somewhat radically with the impending move to an internal database

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wagnerrp:

so im in no mood to try to maintain two different sets

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wagnerrp:

im going to wait until i get the p2 set rewritten, and then migrate it to p3

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justinh:

man the remote on mythdroid sucks

[20:22:37]

justinh:

it's nice & fast etc but boy is it ever lacking in the button department

[20:22:43]

justinh:

no menu key, for one

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justinh:

EvilGuru: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . eaded#284724 – max dvb tuners was at some point set to 8. might still be

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justinh:

I think I remember stuarta removing the limit in mythtv but can't be sure

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wagnerrp:

why would we limit to four tuners?

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justinh:

no there was a limit to 8 IIRC

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wagnerrp:

four, eight, whatever

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wagnerrp:

why would we limit?

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justinh:

why not?

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wagnerrp:

i dont see why there would be a need

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wagnerrp:

i mean thats extra code to have a limit

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justinh:

pretty sure there was a limit. anyway now it goes up to the end of sdevs

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justinh:

this would all have been a very long time ago anyway

[20:35:38]

justinh:

back then you'd have been hard pressed to fit that many tuners in a box

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justinh:

in that -users thread janneg said "Depending on the mythtv version you have to make different changes in

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justinh:

the mythtv code to add more than 8 dvb devices.

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justinh:

In trunk it's the SpinboxSetting in the class DVBCardNum in

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justinh:

libs/libmythtv/videosource.cpp "

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justinh:

rats. that should have been 2 lines

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justinh:

here we go. this is how it used to be http://pastebin.ca/2133418

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operat0r:

yay save $62$ a month just doing ATSC

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operat0r:

status 1f | signal 96ab | snr 1499 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK

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operat0r:

I can't read that .. can I get a % or something trying to get wifre to help with signal for local GPB stream

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Plugh:

My cable provider is going 100% digital so I'm going to be stuck with using an external digital to analog converter. Can someone remind me what setting I have to change so I can schedule the channel I want to watch but have MythTV stay on channel 3?

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rumblebumble:

Anyone try HD PVR driver version 1.7.1.30059

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wagnerrp:

Plugh: why would you want to do that?

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wagnerrp:

svideo or composite capture not an option?

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wagnerrp:

you have no choice but to do modulated RF?

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Plugh:

wagnerrp: The external converter outputs the selected signal on either 3 or 4 and I've set it to 3. My PVR150 needs to stay on channel 3 input or else I won't be able to watch/record my programs. At the moment, if a scheduled recording kicks in for a program on cable 21 MythTV changes the PVR to that channel and I just see snow.

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Plugh:

The box where the old TV and the new adapter are located is about half a room away from where the computer and the PVR150 are located.

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wagnerrp:

if you had an external channel changer script (which you need), mythtv would not attempt to change channels using the internal tuner at all

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Plugh:

ok. I can set up a dummy changer script.

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wagnerrp:

in the same location you set that, there is a box to allow you to force the channel for the internal tuner

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wagnerrp:

there will be two similar options

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wagnerrp:

one is an edit box to set the forced channel

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Plugh:

yeah, a channel preset option IIRC

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wagnerrp:

the other is a dropdown to select the starting channel used when starting livetv

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Plugh:

Saw that but it didn't stop it from changing channels. If I add a dummy change script that might be what it needs.

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wagnerrp:

in mythtv-setup, section 4

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wagnerrp:

correct, that option only carries any relevance if you have an external channel changer script defined

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wagnerrp:

(which without one, mythtv will be of little worth)

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Plugh:

"Preset to channel" I have set to 3. I'll make a dummy script that won't do anything and feed the name of the script to MythTV.

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Plugh:

ah, ok. Thanks.

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wagnerrp:

or use '/bin/true'

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Plugh:

oh, right. I was trying to think if there was something simple to use.

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Plugh:

wagnerrp: That seems to have done the trick.

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Plugh:

Not sure if its taking a touch longer to "change channel" but its not too bad.

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Plugh:

Next step will be to find a way to set up some kind of IR sending system to tell the external adapter to change channel.

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Plugh:

That will be a separate bit of research to see what's out there for that.

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