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| [00:03:59] | rooter7: | sphery: You Rock. Plugins compiled. Now starting the backend and it's filling database. |
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| [00:43:56] | gizmobay: | I compiled 0.25 beta and it's unusable for me. I can tune one livetv channel but then can't change the channel to anything else as I get video frame buffering error. |
| [00:44:19] | gizmobay: | I thought it had to do with vdpau but it didn't as I tried ffmpeg |
| [00:44:28] | gizmobay: | I get this error |
| [00:44:32] | gizmobay: | AFD: Unknown audio decoding error |
| [00:45:06] | gizmobay: | eno: Broken pipe (32) |
| [00:45:55] | gizmobay: | Waited 205ms for video buffers AAAAAUUUUUUuUULUuAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP |
| [00:48:21] | kisak: | I can tell you that the AFD and video lines are not fatal errors |
| [00:49:33] | gizmobay: | I don't know why this doesn't work. It's unusable. i've never had this issue before |
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| [00:54:53] | kisak: | I wonder why the retro-wide theme preview image looks blurry and I can see artifacts in the screenshot |
| [00:59:05] | sphery: | broken pipe seems to indicate that something is preventing the frontend(?) from reading the recording data |
| [00:59:16] | sphery: | i.e. network issues or socket issues or ... |
| [00:59:54] | sphery: | kisak: https://github.com/MythTV-Themes/Retro-wide/b . . . /preview.jpg (it's a small image, so when scaled...) |
| [01:00:30] | sphery: | kisak: if you create a higher-res preview, then contact the author through github (or do a pull request or something), I'm sure he'd be willing to update it to larger |
| [01:00:58] | kisak: | fair enough, I just mentioned it as general QC |
| [01:01:01] | sphery: | kisak: note, also, https://github.com/MythTV-Themes/Steppes/raw/master/preview.jpg (versus https://github.com/MythTV-Themes/Retro-wide/r . . . /preview.jpg ) |
| [01:01:18] | sphery: | yes, but I'm trying to get more people involved in helping themers :) |
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| [01:02:04] | sphery: | i.e. with most themes, now, anyone who uses the theme could actually help maintain it (to the point that if you impress the author, he can even give you commit privs on the repo) |
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| [01:02:32] | sphery: | soon I hope to have Terra and MythCenter* set up the same way (after 0.25, but I hope it's soon after) |
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| [01:04:07] | kisak: | sphery: I was banging around my settings trying to find the ThemePainter setting because of the commit you just made |
| [01:04:29] | kisak: | (to verify that is was set to a good setting) |
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| [01:05:07] | sphery: | it will be a bad setting |
| [01:05:16] | sphery: | you'll want to change it to Auto |
| [01:05:22] | sphery: | (using the UI, ideally) |
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| [01:41:23] | gizmobay: | I ended up going back to 0.24 |
| [01:41:23] | kisak: | would there be any benefit to having a winXP buildbot? |
| [01:44:43] | BLZbubba_: | is there a way to set up mythtv backend without loading a whole ton of X stuff? |
| [01:45:05] | BLZbubba_: | seems kind of silly to have pango for example |
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| [01:45:21] | kisak: | BLZbubba_: do you have another linux box sitting around |
| [01:45:59] | kisak: | (with X) |
| [01:47:39] | kisak: | if you do, you can enable X forwarding for your regular user on your backend's sshd config, then ssh -Y <regularusername> and run mythtv-setup from the other box |
| [01:49:31] | kisak: | you wouldn't need an X server on your backend then, just some of the X libraries |
| [01:50:23] | BLZbubba_: | yeah that is usually how i install it; but a text only setup would be better for backends that only talk to a tuner and write out files |
| [01:51:22] | BLZbubba_: | like maybe mythtv-setup should be packaged separately or something |
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| [01:51:59] | kisak: | there's talk of a web setup that's in the works, but it's not in the wild |
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| [02:19:49] | gizmobay: | I got a new analog cable box today since the other one broke. Do I need to do anything to mythtv. He also removed a splitter that improved signal. |
| [02:20:45] | gizmobay: | I'm seeing video buffer issues even on 0.24 that I've never had with analog |
| [02:22:17] | [R]: | what? |
| [02:22:53] | gizmobay: | me |
| [02:23:01] | [R]: | you're the only one talking... |
| [02:23:13] | gizmobay: | o |
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| [02:23:33] | skd5aner: | anyone around running a recent 0.25-beta that could test video clip playback in mythgallery? |
| [02:24:08] | skd5aner: | I have catastrophic failure in 0.24-fixes, but would like to see if anyone can replicate with a recent version of master/0.25-beta |
| [02:24:49] | gizmobay: | I tried 0.25 and all it did was give me video buffer when trying to tune so I went back to 0.24 and I'm still get video buffer issues but not just as often. Just wondering if the new box has anything to do with it |
| [02:25:33] | tank-man: | gizmobay, unlikely |
| [02:25:50] | gizmobay: | that's what I thought |
| [02:26:34] | gizmobay: | thanks |
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| [03:32:34] | Beirdo: | skd5aner: we changed around how the videos are played in 0.25, I thought |
| [03:36:24] | sphery: | skd5aner: (in MythGallery) |
| [03:39:10] | [R]: | so myth is picking the moviedb instead of the tv db, how do i fix that? |
| [03:39:30] | [R]: | consequently, the id happens to be for a dirty movie |
| [03:40:56] | sphery: | [R]: upgrade to revision from the last couple hours |
| [03:41:02] | [R]: | ah |
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| [04:07:52] | wagnerrp: | sphery: actually, 0.24 will pass logging options through to applications if you tell it to |
| [04:08:11] | wagnerrp: | and if you have your transcoder set to 'mythtranscode', the jobqueue knows to send that information through |
| [04:09:05] | sphery: | ah |
| [04:09:20] | sphery: | then no idea why he's not getting logging from mythtranscode? |
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| [04:14:45] | wagnerrp: | unless he ran mythjobqueue with no logging, so there was nothing to pass |
| [04:15:21] | sphery: | yeah, but he said in mythbackend he only got mention of start/stop |
| [04:15:39] | sphery: | and his start script for (0.24) mbe showed --logfile |
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| [06:05:11] | BLZbubba_: | ok i'm setting up a second backend with an extra tuner; but the backend process exits immediately |
| [06:05:27] | BLZbubba_: | "Error Loading en_us translation for module mythfrontend" |
| [06:07:31] | BLZbubba_: | and for some reason it is doing some kind of multicasting: |
| [06:07:33] | BLZbubba_: | MMulticastSocketDevice(239.255.255.250:16): setsockopt – IP_DROP_MEMBERSHIP #012#011#011#011eno: Invalid argument (22) |
| [06:07:54] | BLZbubba_: | multicasting is kind of satanic |
| [06:08:24] | wagnerrp: | it uses multicasting for UPNP |
| [06:08:25] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: what version of mythtv? |
| [06:08:42] | wagnerrp: | both as a content server for remote devices, and for its own internal auto-detection routines |
| [06:10:10] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: in theory, the backend process will tell you why it's exiting in the log file |
| [06:10:30] | sphery: | likely in /etc/mythtv/mythbackend.log or something |
| [06:11:22] | BLZbubba_: | 0.25 |
| [06:11:30] | BLZbubba_: | the ubuntu precise packages |
| [06:11:55] | BLZbubba_: | i'm running it in the foreground with --loglevel debug |
| [06:12:35] | sphery: | want to pastebin the log output? |
| [06:12:36] | BLZbubba_: | ah there it is, "No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP" |
| [06:12:46] | BLZbubba_: | mythtv-setup time, ok |
| [06:13:19] | sphery: | hehe, that would do it :) |
| [06:13:23] | sphery: | glad you found it |
| [06:15:42] | BLZbubba_: | yeah that's much better :) |
| [06:16:00] | BLZbubba_: | ok my hd pvr and satellite may actually work now |
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| [06:22:36] | BLZbubba_: | fun, ir blaster no workee |
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| [06:40:32] | BLZbubba_: | ah, ir blaster is just sensitive and the glue on it is t3h suck |
| [06:40:42] | BLZbubba_: | awesome, thanks for the help!!! |
| [06:40:52] | BLZbubba_: | been wanting to do satellite for years, finally got around to it |
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| [07:16:02] | BLZbubba_: | when i use "watch tv" should I be able to use the channels on the non-master backend? |
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| [07:49:15] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: yes... try changing to the channel that's only on the remote backend using the guide. or, try MENU and then something about changing cards or inputs to just switch to the card on the remote backend |
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| [09:54:48] | xavierh: | MythTV does not seems to desactivate the dpms anymore, is it only me ? Same resukt on 2 different computer, one ubuntu 10.04 and one 11.10 |
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| [10:09:06] | xavierh: | according to this http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8639#comment:9 it should just work. or do I need to configure something ? |
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| [10:38:41] | quietone: | I don't have a tv tuner but can I use MythTV to play existing video files? I'm playing with an old laptop. |
| [10:39:03] | rileyp: | yes |
| [10:39:59] | rileyp: | ad the dir to mythvideo |
| [10:40:40] | rileyp: | provided they are not some silly windows format like wtv |
| [10:40:41] | quietone: | rileyp, thanks for that. I did. But the backend fails with 'no channel sources in the database' |
| [10:41:03] | rileyp: | then dont open live tv |
| [10:41:03] | quicksilver: | you have to add a dummy card and dummy channel source I think |
| [10:41:16] | quicksilver: | which is a bit clumsy |
| [10:41:28] | quicksilver: | there are simpler programs for playing video files surely |
| [10:41:57] | rileyp: | open videos tbh never used myth without a tuner" thats like car engine without oil |
| [10:42:32] | rileyp: | vlc |
| [10:42:35] | quietone: | well, I've wanted mythtv for a while and now I have a machine I can dedicated as the backend (I just money to buy) |
| [10:42:44] | quietone: | s/just/ just lack/ |
| [10:43:51] | rileyp: | quietone sony playtv tuner ~$60 au on ebay.au dual tuner! |
| [10:44:09] | rileyp: | plug it in and they work dvb tuner |
| [10:44:57] | rileyp: | old laptop isnt the best unless it has nvidia graphics and wil most likely struggle with hd playback |
| [10:45:52] | rileyp: | and wont hav anywhre near the storage capacity you require once you start to love it even with a usb storage drive/s |
| [10:48:17] | quietone: | rileyp, yes, I am sort of aware of the limitations, but this is about proof of concept. If I can get it working on all machines then maybe we can buy better toys. |
| [10:50:12] | quietone: | rileyp, I just get stuff about ps3 when searching for sony playtv tuner at ebay.au |
| [10:52:09] | rileyp: | they are made for the ps3 but are a usb tuner and work without messing round |
| [10:52:54] | rileyp: | http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1880443 |
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| [12:16:44] | quietone: | quicksilver, rileyp, thank you both very much. I've got it working. good night. |
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| [15:22:55] | ** skd5aner wonders if there's a single mythtv user in North Korea or not ** | |
| [15:24:08] | CyberKnet: | Probably one somewhere. |
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| [15:31:53] | skd5aner: | I'm sure Kim Jong-Il was a master MythTV user /and/ developer |
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| [16:13:44] | adamu: | hey there, for some reasonw hen trying to watch recorded programs my FE freezes and then goes to a black screen. And there is nothing in mythfrontend.log about it |
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| [16:27:38] | skd5aner: | dekarl: http://www.effectiveperlprogramming.com/blog/1292 |
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| [18:27:37] | ThisNewGuy1: | hey all – does anyone know what this error means: http://pastebin.com/ih006pmB |
| [18:28:43] | [R]: | looks like your database is corrupt |
| [18:29:07] | ThisNewGuy1: | [R] any idea how to fix it? |
| [18:29:40] | [R]: | ThisNewGuy1: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fix+corrupt+mysql |
| [18:31:38] | ThisNewGuy1: | k – thanks |
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| [19:00:01] | Beirdo: | time for some Extreme |
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| [20:22:44] | BLZbubba_: | ok got a new capture device: Hauppauge HD-PVR |
| [20:23:06] | BLZbubba_: | mostly working well, but playback seems a little jumpy |
| [20:24:17] | BLZbubba_: | is there a way to debug that kind of thing when using vdpau? |
| [20:27:54] | BLZbubba_: | maybe it will work better if i switch the satellite box to send 720p instead of 1080i |
| [20:36:12] | [R]: | if you are using vdpau and its not working well |
| [20:36:24] | [R]: | a) make sure you are actually using vdpau b) switch your deinterlacer |
| [20:40:38] | BLZbubba_: | positive about a, great idea with b; i'll try good old reliable bob 2x |
| [20:41:45] | BLZbubba_: | hmm my only choices are va-api, vdpau, crystal, or "standard" |
| [20:42:45] | BLZbubba_: | never mind, i'm a moron |
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| [20:43:45] | BLZbubba_: | ok one thing that has always been hard to understand – why are all of the fallback deinterlacers 1x? |
| [20:43:59] | BLZbubba_: | i would like to try advanced 2x for primary and bob 2x for secondary |
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| [20:54:29] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: primarily because depending on screen refresh and video refresh, a 2x deinterlacer may not be possible |
| [20:55:11] | sphery: | i.e. 30fps video and 59.94Hz refresh rate means you can't do 2x deint |
| [20:56:32] | sphery: | so, basically, if you can use bob 2x, then advanced 2x would also work, so you'd never actually use bob 2x |
| [20:57:00] | sphery: | (it doesn't take into account whether the deinterlacing uses too many resources--only whether it's theoretically possible) |
| [20:59:03] | BLZbubba_: | gotcha so it is kind of like windows safe mode where if your screen looks awful then you know something is wrong |
| [21:01:19] | BLZbubba_: | the high cpu vdpau profile should probably default to 2x advanced instead of none |
| [21:01:41] | BLZbubba_: | but i switched from none to 2x and still getting weird frame drops |
| [21:02:13] | BLZbubba_: | but strangely intermittent |
| [21:02:45] | BLZbubba_: | and OTA transport streams don't do it |
| [21:04:13] | awalls: | Only stuff recorded from cable? |
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| [21:05:44] | RogerM: | Anyone here that can answer a small translation question? |
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| [21:08:09] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: which graphics card? there's talk that advanced 2x isn't usable on 1080i60 content with most video cards |
| [21:08:56] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: fwiw, you should probably be using one of the 3 "default" profile groups for vdpau (i.e. unmodified versions of) vdpau slim, vdpau normal, or vdpau high quality |
| [21:09:32] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: if you've already changed the example profiles, you can reset them to defaults as described at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles# . . . ofile_groups |
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| [21:10:16] | sphery: | too slow... was about to tell RogerM I could try |
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| [21:22:24] | BLZbubba_: | advanced 2x works great with every other 1080i content i have tried; and i have tried a lot. it's a geforce 210 |
| [21:22:44] | BLZbubba_: | i use vdpau high quality but it defaulted to no deinterlacin |
| [21:22:45] | BLZbubba_: | g |
| [21:22:58] | BLZbubba_: | so i changed that to advanced 2x |
| [21:23:03] | BLZbubba_: | that was the only change i made |
| [21:23:30] | BLZbubba_: | i'm about 80% sure this is an HD PVR issue but i dont' know anyone else who uses one to either confirm or deny |
| [21:24:05] | devinheitmueller: | BLZbubba_: have you copied the video file over to some other computer to see if it plays back properly? |
| [21:25:17] | BLZbubba_: | not yet; i was mainly trying to improve my vdpau debugging skills to see if there was any way to log this kind of thing in mythfrontend, or if the whole vdpau process is a black box |
| [21:25:50] | devinheitmueller: | Sure. Nonetheless I probably wouldn't go blaming the HD-PVR until you've tried playback on another machine (with something like VLC or mplayer) |
| [21:27:48] | BLZbubba_: | that is how confident i am in how awesome the mythtv internal player is as well as my hardware :) |
| [21:27:59] | BLZbubba_: | but i'll give that a try too |
| [21:28:40] | BLZbubba_: | the HD-PVR is brand new, my mythtv system has been here working great for awhile; that is the main reason i suspect it |
| [21:29:09] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, but the HD-PVR is doing a much higher bitrate than many capture devices, and it's H.264 instead of MPEG2. Hence it's likely to expose problems in existing setups. |
| [21:29:36] | devinheitmueller: | (just ask all the developers who had to fix the codecs in their applications when the HD-PVR first came out) |
| [21:30:31] | devinheitmueller: | All that said, it *could* be the HD-PVR, but from my experience it's much more likely to be some aspect related to playback rather than capture. |
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| [21:49:45] | BLZbubba_: | 720p mode works great. interlacing is a tool of satan |
| [21:49:58] | BLZbubba_: | ok i'll try the old file with vlc now |
| [21:56:50] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: yeah, I'd guess that the 210 just isn't powerful enough for advanced 2x at 1080i60 |
| [21:57:08] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: just use a different, lower-resource vdpau deinterlacer |
| [21:58:01] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: and read (all of) the threads at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/508099#508099 and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/503420#503420 |
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| [22:28:03] | BLZbubba_: | bob 2x seems a lot better. why was "none" acting just like "advanced 2x" though? |
| [22:28:34] | BLZbubba_: | did they ever make a fanless 220 or better? |
| [22:28:52] | BLZbubba_: | when i was researching years ago, 210 was the most powerful fanless card i could find |
| [22:29:29] | BLZbubba_: | not that i would ever be able to tell the difference between bob and advanced of course :) |
| [22:33:04] | sphery: | BLZbubba_: I have a fanless 220 |
| [22:33:41] | sphery: | not sure what to classify as "better", though, since it gets muddy after the 2xx series :) |
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| [22:55:34] | BLZbubba_: | depends if you play 3d games on your HTPC i guess |
| [22:55:44] | BLZbubba_: | does WoW have 5.1 audio as an option? |
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