| Thursday, March 15th, 2012, 00:09 UTC | ||
| [00:09:44] | k-man: | morning all |
| [00:12:09] | america: | evening |
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| [00:15:06] | spmcewen: | schedulesdirect.org isn't loading for me. I searched the gossamer-threads.com forums and don't see any recent postings about downtime. Is this not working for anyone else? |
| [00:15:32] | Twiggy2cents: | Has anybody had an issue where fedora will not wake from usb? It happened after I updated the kernel. I dunno if the kernel's acpi is broken or what |
| [00:15:48] | Twiggy2cents: | It disables the usb hubs in /proc/acpi/wakeup on reboot |
| [00:17:05] | spmcewen: | I found that with my zotac xbox only certain USB ports are alive while sleeping |
| [00:17:13] | spmcewen: | *zbox |
| [00:17:46] | spmcewen: | I think that's more a hardware thing and not the kernel though |
| [00:18:24] | Twiggy2cents: | It worked before |
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| [00:20:18] | k-man: | where should I look to see the current mythtv database schema? |
| [00:21:16] | k-man: | oh nm, found the wiki entry |
| [00:22:25] | k-man: | where does the data for seriesid come from? is it the TVDB series id? |
| [00:26:33] | k-man: | so from what I can tell, the guide grabber can pass seriesid and programid mythtv for each program? is that correct? |
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| [00:40:54] | sphery: | kisak: no support for seriesid in xmltv, but our xmltv parser generates seriesid if none is provided |
| [00:41:19] | sphery: | only schedules direct code uses a listings-provider seriesid |
| [00:42:25] | sphery: | spmcewen: did you just sign up for schedules direct? if so, it can take several hours before your account is ready to go |
| [00:42:44] | sphery: | spmcewen: if not, we'll need logs to find out what's happening (to pastebin, please, not in channel) |
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| [00:44:28] | spmcewen: | no no, I mean the website won't load: http://www.schedulesdirect.org I wanted to sign up |
| [00:45:10] | ** wagnerrp pokes xris ** | |
| [00:45:12] | wagnerrp: | ^^^^ |
| [00:48:50] | sphery: | ahh, yeah, I see the same, here and at http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/schedulesdirect.com |
| [00:50:29] | sphery: | oops, forgot to use: |
| [00:50:43] | sphery: | !url down schedulesdirect.org |
| [00:50:43] | MythLogBot: | down: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/schedulesdirect%2Eorg |
| [00:51:18] | sphery: | and it seems I used used the wrong one when using the downforeveryoneorjustme.com site manually |
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| [00:51:54] | sphery: | (though I checked the right site when I tried going there directly)... but it is down, even when I use the right name |
| [00:54:40] | k-man: | sphery, was that response above directed at me? |
| [00:55:09] | k-man: | looks like it |
| [00:55:28] | spmcewen: | sphery: thanks for checking. I'll try again tomorrow. The EIT guide data isn't cutting it for me |
| [00:57:01] | sphery: | k-man: yeah, you probably don't want/need input priorities on 0.25beta/master |
| [00:57:18] | sphery: | not sure if you're still on 0.24-fixes, but you'll definitely want to remove them when you upgrade |
| [00:57:33] | spmcewen: | do you happen to know if schedules direct is fairly up to date as shows change scheduled times? |
| [00:57:34] | sphery: | spmcewen: hehe, yeah, in the US, EIT leaves much to be desired |
| [00:58:03] | spmcewen: | I missed a recording this week because something was changed.. got House instead of Alcatraz! |
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| [00:58:42] | k-man: | sphery, , input priorities? |
| [00:58:48] | wagnerrp: | s/much/everything/ |
| [00:58:56] | k-man: | i'm still on .24 fixes |
| [00:58:57] | sphery: | spmcewen: when you set it up, if you use --dd-grab-all (see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/449426#449426 + https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/d2822566 for info on how to use it and how to make sure it will work with your equipment), it's very up to date |
| [01:00:12] | sphery: | spmcewen: that, however, was a problem caused by the Daytona 500's delay... for some reason Fox didn't publish the update (so, for example, I got it instead of House and Alcatraz that night, but I deleted those and allowed them to re-record so that I'd get them when they re-aired) |
| [01:00:31] | k-man: | sphery, i was just wondering if xmltv grabbers could and should provide the seriesid and programid to mythtv? |
| [01:02:31] | sphery: | spmcewen: was it the Saturday showings of House/Alcatraz reruns or the Monday showings that didn't work? |
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| [01:09:41] | spmcewen: | I think it was this Monday's night showing. THe Daytona 500 change threw things off for me too |
| [01:11:19] | spmcewen: | I use mythweb to create my schedule (just use the mythbackend on my home server and XBMC as the front end), and have Alcatraz set to filter new episodes only, and checks for duplicates in all recordings |
| [01:11:43] | sphery: | yeah, I got Alcatraz: Clarence Montgomery at 9:00pm (2nd hour of primetime for me--primetime starts at 8:00, which listed House) on Monday... the preview /looks/ like Alcatraz, but it /could/ be a House episode if he's still in the jail/asylum/whatever |
| [01:12:30] | wagnerrp: | i recorded house on monday |
| [01:12:46] | wagnerrp: | not house |
| [01:12:49] | wagnerrp: | alcatraz |
| [01:13:02] | wagnerrp: | (and i watched it, so i know its alcatraz) |
| [01:13:33] | sphery: | seems Clarence Montgomery was the episode that was supposed to air on Daytona 500 night, so are you sure you did a "delete and allow re-record" so it knew it hadn't already recorded it? |
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| [01:19:12] | spmcewen: | ah I think that must be it. I deleted in mythweb but probably hit "delete" instead of "delete + rerecord" |
| [01:20:54] | spmcewen: | I also have duplicate check method set to "subtitle and description", and have it set to record at any time on myh channel… plus auto-expire is checked. Does that sound right? |
| [01:21:34] | sphery: | yeah, that's definitely good for schedules direct |
| [01:21:51] | sphery: | should be good for EIT--assuming EIT gives good subtitles |
| [01:22:55] | sphery: | schedules direct will actually use the programid (unique identifier of each episode), which will be the same even across channels and after syndication and such--rather than subtitle and description, when both episodes being compared have a programid |
| [01:23:52] | sphery: | as long as you had good subtitles with EIT, though, after you switch to schedules direct, it will continue to use subtitle/description--meaning that if the EIT-provided description differ, it would re-record episodes |
| [01:24:25] | sphery: | so if you change you might want to change the rule to use subtitle only if descriptions differ |
| [01:24:58] | sphery: | then mythtv will use programid for schedules direct to schedules direct comparisons and title/subtitle (or title/subtitle/description--depending on rule) for schedules direct to EIT comparisons |
| [01:25:37] | sphery: | (ignore the "as long as you had good subtitles with EIT, though," part (started down one path, then changed) |
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| [01:27:04] | sphery: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/a1457338c |
| [01:27:08] | sphery: | that's one you'll love |
| [01:27:12] | sphery: | (the message) |
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| [01:30:29] | spmcewen: | ah, thanks sphery, that's good to know |
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| [01:45:25] | spmcewen: | hmm, actually mythweb is only showing: none, subtitle, description, subtitle and description, subtitle then description – for duplicate check methods |
| [01:45:57] | spmcewen: | I notice that the mythtv wiki mentions program ID though http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Duplicate_matching |
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| [01:47:44] | spmcewen: | oh, duh, maybe because I haven't actually set up schedules direct yet? |
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| [02:06:33] | sphery: | spmcewen: oh, the choice you will want is "subtitle then description"... that says, "use title/subtitle, if the program has a subtitle, otherwise, use title/description" |
| [02:07:20] | spmcewen: | if I do "none", does that tell it to only use program id? |
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| [02:12:37] | sphery: | none means to record all showings, regardless of whether they've been recorded before |
| [02:12:48] | sphery: | i.e. completely disables duplicate matching |
| [02:12:59] | sphery: | the programid thing is automatic, if programid exists |
| [02:13:02] | spmcewen: | ah, gotcha. So program ID is just implicit then |
| [02:13:14] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Duplicate_matching has some more info |
| [02:13:17] | sphery: | right |
| [02:13:39] | sphery: | because programid is the definitive identifier of an episode, if it exists, it's used, as long as duplicate matching of any kind is enabled |
| [02:14:07] | spmcewen: | I see I see. Thanks again, this clears things up for me a lot! |
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| [02:18:04] | Beirdo: | OK, time to put the garlic bread in the oven |
| [02:18:26] | [R]: | is that innuendo? |
| [02:18:39] | sphery: | I'm still waiting for my sourdough to finish rising |
| [02:18:49] | [R]: | now THAT is... |
| [02:19:15] | sphery: | looks like it's about to pop |
| [02:20:27] | adamu: | hey guys, for some reason when I deleted channels they all came back |
| [02:20:28] | adamu: | lol |
| [02:20:55] | sphery: | adamu: what capture device? |
| [02:21:41] | Beirdo: | [R]: get yer mind outta the gutter ;) |
| [02:22:38] | sphery: | adamu: the HDHR Prime is an "unscannable" digital capture device, so mythfilldatabase automatically adds those channels that are in your Schedules Direct lineup |
| [02:23:07] | sphery: | adamu: so, if you don't want the channels (on any capture device input), then remove them from your schedules direct lineup (most preferred) |
| [02:24:01] | sphery: | or if you're using those channels for a different video source with a different capture device input, either use the hack of marking them as not visible in mythtv-setup's or mythweb's channel editor or run mythfilldatabase with the --remove-new-channels argument |
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| [02:46:41] | xris: | wagnerrp: I see the sd-down warnngs.. looking |
| [02:47:11] | xris: | looks like a dns issue |
| [02:52:19] | adamu: | anyone have a clue why on the mymote app none of my frontends are showing up? |
| [02:54:14] | [R]: | did you enable the network control port? |
| [02:54:26] | adamu: | yea, i can control it with the other app mythremote |
| [02:54:34] | adamu: | but apparently its not discoverable on the mymote app |
| [02:54:46] | adamu: | cant seem to figure out why |
| [02:55:18] | Beirdo: | hahaah |
| [02:55:42] | Beirdo: | ubuntu can't boot consistantly from SSD? Go, upstart, you piece of stinky crap |
| [02:57:11] | Beirdo: | no matter how much they polish it, it's still a turd. |
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| [03:13:47] | sphery: | guess I should have told spmcewen that Alcatraz: Clarence Montgomery is repeating on Mar 24, so he can pick it up still |
| [03:15:02] | Beirdo: | pfft |
| [03:16:15] | wriley: | what happened to schedulesdirect.org? |
| [03:16:43] | sphery: | wriley: they're working on it, now... seems some dns issues? |
| [03:17:07] | sphery: | hang out here and you're bound to see updates :) |
| [03:17:41] | wriley: | thanks, that's why i'm here |
| [03:18:49] | knightr: | SD main web site is back up... |
| [03:20:22] | sphery: | yay |
| [03:28:45] | wriley: | <cheer> |
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| [03:45:04] | sphery: | the question is whether we lost a subscriber in spmcewen, who was trying to sign up while it was down... |
| [03:45:48] | sphery: | hope he still decides to sign up--since the more people who subscribe the less likely SD is to disappear, and I need my SD program listings |
| [03:48:27] | kisak: | I wonder why "2012-03–14 23:47:46.646253 W NVCtrl: OpenGL Sync to VBlank is disabled." is my mythfrontend initialization while nvidia-settings has that option checked |
| [03:51:31] | sphery: | the opengl one |
| [03:51:37] | sphery: | there are 2 in nvidia-settings |
| [03:51:46] | sphery: | and you have to actually apply those settings each time you start x |
| [03:51:48] | kisak: | ah |
| [03:52:14] | kisak: | well, let's get that into my xorg.conf |
| [03:52:47] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/501114#501114 |
| [03:53:56] | kisak: | I ran the 'nvidia-settings -a "SyncToVBlank=1"' command as advised, then fired up nvidia-settings to see if it had changed, then found the opengl vsync option you just mentioned, which was not checked |
| [03:55:00] | kisak: | shouldn't the command line change be visible in the gui right afterwards? |
| [03:55:20] | kisak: | (for nvidia-settings) |
| [04:02:50] | kisak: | oh, okay sphery |
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| [04:07:15] | kisak: | thanks for that info sphery |
| [04:07:59] | sphery: | hope it helps |
| [04:08:23] | kisak: | I wasn't noticing a problem, this is just a little housekeeping |
| [04:08:49] | sphery: | yeah, seems vdpau takes care of it, even without that checked |
| [04:09:15] | sphery: | at least I haven't noticed issues using vdpau (when tearing is quite noticeable with opengl without it) |
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| [09:57:31] | aop3063: | hi all |
| [09:57:54] | aop3063: | I am not able to use Mythtv analog channel scan with my wintv hvr 900r2 |
| [09:57:55] | aop3063: | card. tvtime scans analog channels fine. But mythtv (version 0.25 in ubuntu 11.10) does not find a single channel. |
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| [11:27:25] | toeb: | is it possible to let mythpreviewgen store preview images in its own storage group? |
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| [11:37:08] | wagnerrp: | not currently |
| [11:40:48] | toeb: | would myth still find them if i move them by hand or cron? |
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| [11:41:58] | toeb: | i would like to see if stuff feels quicker if i move those to the SSD |
| [11:43:09] | wagnerrp: | no, preview images are pulled from whatever folder the recordings are found in |
| [11:43:57] | toeb: | ok, thanks |
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| [11:58:02] | wagnerrp: | mmmm.... |
| [11:58:39] | ** wagnerrp enjoys retarded spammers who cant manage to type in a valid password, and thus will never respond to the authentication request ** | |
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| [13:28:33] | pyrodex_: | is there any easy method to tell the usage of your tuners in your system over time? For example if I have 6 tuners could I determine how often they are used and maybe utilize them for something else? |
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| [13:48:56] | wagnerrp: | pyrodex_: there is no long term storage of such information |
| [13:49:25] | wagnerrp: | however this script will parse that out as far back as your logs go... http://mythtv.org/wiki/Which_recorder.pl |
| [13:50:25] | wagnerrp: | or this one re-implemented using the database logger in 0.25... https://github.com/wagnerrp/mythtv-scripts/bl . . . _recorder.py |
| [13:50:49] | wagnerrp: | note that database logs are automatically flushed after two weeks |
| [13:51:22] | wagnerrp: | and that tuner numbering is not persistent should you ever 'delete all tuners' and recreate them |
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| [14:30:41] | gizmobay: | I just compiled 0.25 beta. How do you start the backend with upstart? Looks like all the files in the /etc/init.d directory for myth are from the previous install |
| [14:30:58] | wagnerrp: | is that a problem? |
| [14:31:07] | wagnerrp: | the only potential change is with the logging options |
| [14:31:57] | wagnerrp: | if you want, there are some config files on the wiki you can use to route your logs through syslog |
| [14:33:32] | gizmobay: | The problem is the previous files won't start the backend |
| [14:34:04] | wagnerrp: | yes, likely just the logging options |
| [14:35:32] | pyrodex_: | thanks wagnerrp |
| [14:37:21] | gizmobay: | Do I need to run this as sudo mythwikiscripts |
| [14:38:37] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [14:38:43] | wagnerrp: | well... maybe |
| [14:38:56] | wagnerrp: | it depends on what you are trying to get it to download |
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| [14:39:27] | wagnerrp: | if the files listed on the wiki just have a filename, they get stuffed into ~/bin/, which you should have write rights to |
| [14:39:47] | wagnerrp: | if the files listed there are absolute paths, it will try to put them in that absolute path |
| [14:40:07] | wagnerrp: | which may require superuser rights |
| [14:41:57] | gizmobay: | Is this what I need to route my logs through syslog? |
| [14:42:00] | gizmobay: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Rsyslog_Configuration |
| [14:42:56] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [14:43:31] | gizmobay: | Then I'll need to start the backend with this mythbackend --syslog local7 |
| [14:43:34] | gizmobay: | ? |
| [14:44:45] | wagnerrp: | something like that |
| [14:44:58] | wagnerrp: | use that in place of whatever you had '--logfile' as before |
| [14:45:25] | gizmobay: | I use to just start it with mythbackend |
| [14:45:46] | gizmobay: | well that still works but my mythtv-backend in upstart won't work |
| [14:45:52] | wagnerrp: | meaning upstart would manage logging of stdout? |
| [14:46:46] | gizmobay: | I'm not sure. It was all transparent as it just worked. Guess I'm trying to figure out how to start the BE on boot |
| [14:48:09] | wagnerrp: | wait, what is 'mythtv-backend'? |
| [14:49:21] | gizmobay: | it's the file in my /etc/init.d folder thus I can just do a start mythtv-backend or sudo service mythtv-backend start plus if I rebooted it would start for me. |
| [14:50:16] | gizmobay: | could be carry over from when I used mythbuntu |
| [14:50:21] | gizmobay: | I compile now |
| [14:55:44] | gizmobay: | I guess the easiest answer is how do you start your BE on boot |
| [14:57:58] | wagnerrp: | you want the script i use? |
| [14:58:08] | gizmobay: | yes, thanks |
| [15:00:47] | wagnerrp: | https://github.com/wagnerrp/pyjail/blob/master/jail/jail.py and http://pastebin.com/M43dQnsc |
| [15:01:51] | gizmobay: | where do you put it? |
| [15:02:33] | wagnerrp: | /usr/local/lib/python2.7/pyjail/jail.py and /usr/local/etc/jails/mythbackend.json |
| [15:05:32] | wagnerrp: | oh, and this one too... http://pastebin.com/p0V60ixu |
| [15:11:14] | wagnerrp: | in case you havent realized... all of that is meaningless if you dont run freebsd |
| [15:11:15] | wagnerrp: | :) |
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| [16:08:27] | gizmobay: | I'm now trying to compile mythnetvision. I get an error *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/mythtv/mythuifilebrowser.h', needed by `rsseditor.o' |
| [16:09:09] | gizmobay: | I don't know why it's calling the mythuifilebrowser file since it went away |
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| [16:11:11] | wagnerrp: | you likely have old stuff hanging around from a previous compile |
| [16:11:20] | wagnerrp: | and need to clean out your repository |
| [16:12:13] | gizmobay: | I downloaded to a fresh directory |
| [16:13:00] | gizmobay: | I manually deleted my previous install |
| [16:14:38] | gizmobay: | I have /usr/include/mythtv/libmythui/mythuifilebrowser.h |
| [16:15:30] | wagnerrp: | have you actually installed mythtv? |
| [16:15:36] | wagnerrp: | i.e. 'make install' |
| [16:18:21] | gizmobay: | Yes |
| [16:18:37] | gizmobay: | I manually edited the makefile and corrected the path |
| [16:18:57] | gizmobay: | Now it compiles |
| [16:19:10] | wagnerrp: | thats a bad thing to do |
| [16:19:54] | wagnerrp: | the makefile is generated by 'configure' |
| [16:20:14] | wagnerrp: | so if its made wrong, then either something is wrong with your system, or something is wrong with configure |
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| [16:22:30] | gizmobay: | I see |
| [16:22:42] | gizmobay: | I don't know what could be wrong |
| [16:23:02] | gizmobay: | mythnet did crash the FE on exit |
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| [16:36:46] | wagnerrp: | oh harald nehring... have you even looked at the documentation? |
| [16:37:25] | wagnerrp: | hes going straight into creating new classes based off the low level base classes in the python bindings |
| [16:37:37] | wagnerrp: | but hasnt actually checked to notice what he wants to do is directly available |
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| [16:52:30] | Mqaximo: | hi all.. |
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| [16:52:39] | Mqaximo: | can anyone help me? |
| [16:52:55] | wagnerrp: | not until you tell us what is wrong |
| [16:53:25] | Mqaximo: | i just installed mythbuntu 11.10 |
| [16:53:33] | Mqaximo: | but the problem is that |
| [16:54:16] | Mqaximo: | even if i installed mythbrowser and the menu is available, when i try to use it from the frontend |
| [16:54:40] | Mqaximo: | it says that i don't have any bookmark and don't let me go ahead.. |
| [16:54:56] | Mqaximo: | even if i press M button |
| [16:55:32] | Mqaximo: | i see the pane to add bookmarks but if i try to add one of them, it will not be shown. |
| [16:55:48] | Mqaximo: | how can i do to let mythbrowser work? |
| [16:55:52] | Mqaximo: | thanks |
| [16:55:55] | Mqaximo: | :P |
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| [16:58:42] | xavierh: | Is there a way to configure the number of column displayed in the program guide ? I thought this was done in the theme but it appear it does not |
| [16:59:09] | wagnerrp: | it should be done in the actual theme code |
| [16:59:16] | wagnerrp: | there is no UI to change those values |
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| [17:00:20] | wagnerrp: | Mqaximo: seems to be working here with the mythbuntu theme |
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| [17:00:32] | xavierh: | Just found it the columns size is 20% so ot display only a certain amount of data. thx wagnerrp |
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| [17:01:02] | Mqaximo: | i'm just trying to tchange theme |
| [17:01:18] | wagnerrp: | are you running something other than the mythbuntu theme currently? |
| [17:01:21] | wagnerrp: | if so, which? |
| [17:01:33] | Mqaximo: | as it goes i'll let you know. before i was using myth theme 1.1 |
| [17:01:59] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what that is |
| [17:02:04] | Mqaximo: | :( same think... |
| [17:02:18] | wagnerrp: | MythCenter 1.1? |
| [17:03:18] | wagnerrp: | Mqaximo: are you sure you hit 'ok' and not 'cancel' at the bottom, after creating the new bookmark? |
| [17:03:31] | Mqaximo: | yes |
| [17:03:46] | Mqaximo: | is it possible to skip this step? |
| [17:03:52] | wagnerrp: | depending on the theme, the shading to denote which is selected can be confusing |
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| [17:05:13] | wagnerrp: | once in the browser, you can hit 'm', and specify a URL to go to directly |
| [17:05:23] | wagnerrp: | but you need at least one bookmark to start at |
| [17:05:35] | wagnerrp: | you cant just jump straight into an empty browser |
| [17:06:19] | Mqaximo: | is it possible to add it manually by a configuration file? |
| [17:07:29] | wagnerrp: | a while back, i wrote this to import bookmarks exported by firefox... http://mythtv.org/wiki/Update_bookmarks_from_file |
| [17:08:13] | wagnerrp: | it will read a ~/bookmarks.html, or take the path to such a file as an option on the command line |
| [17:09:05] | wagnerrp: | in firefox's bookmark library, see 'import and backup', and 'export bookmarks to html' |
| [17:09:19] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if other browsers have something similar, or if they use the same format |
| [17:09:37] | Mqaximo: | as default browser there is chromium |
| [17:09:55] | Mqaximo: | i'll try to search the bookmark file of it |
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| [17:18:32] | Mqaximo: | ok, i found the problem. |
| [17:19:07] | Mqaximo: | using a different theme that the original, there could be problems in adding bookmarks. |
| [17:19:19] | wagnerrp: | only if the theme is broken |
| [17:19:38] | Mqaximo: | maybe mine is so... |
| [17:19:46] | wagnerrp: | what theme? |
| [17:20:54] | Mqaximo: | i don't remember the name, i have 4 themes, the first one (mythbintu 1.0, another 1.1, another 1.1 stretched and Hearth) |
| [17:21:10] | Mqaximo: | i tried the second one and gave me all thet problems |
| [17:21:27] | wagnerrp: | mythcenter |
| [17:21:27] | Mqaximo: | i switch back to first ona and it goes |
| [17:21:32] | Mqaximo: | maybe |
| [17:21:44] | Mqaximo: | wait i'll tell it for sure |
| [17:22:13] | Mqaximo: | yes |
| [17:22:15] | wagnerrp: | Hearth? |
| [17:22:19] | Mqaximo: | mythcenter 1.1 |
| [17:22:39] | Mqaximo: | while in mythbuntu 1.0 goes ok |
| [17:22:56] | wagnerrp: | knightr: youre not actually able to translate theme names are you? |
| [17:23:21] | Mqaximo: | it's my fault sorry :P |
| [17:23:31] | Mqaximo: | i was going "at memory" |
| [17:23:33] | Mqaximo: | :P |
| [17:24:17] | wagnerrp: | well adding bookmarks works here for both mythcenter and mythcenter-wide |
| [17:24:25] | wagnerrp: | although this is 0.25, while youre running 0.24 |
| [17:24:36] | wagnerrp: | there may have been some fix for that along the way, im not sure |
| [17:24:49] | xavierh: | Does anybody no how to display mythtv in full screen. I have the same problem with 10.04 gnome and 11.10 unity, the top bar is still visible |
| [17:25:09] | xavierh: | s/no/know |
| [17:25:12] | wagnerrp: | xavierh: you disable aiglx |
| [17:25:32] | xavierh: | where is that ? is it Compize ? |
| [17:25:58] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [17:26:17] | wagnerrp: | since it causes things to be rendered to a virtual opengl buffer |
| [17:26:25] | xavierh: | great, thank you MythiPedia |
| [17:26:39] | wagnerrp: | applies further scaling afterwards |
| [17:27:01] | xavierh: | That why on of my account worked properly |
| [17:27:11] | xavierh: | one |
| [17:27:28] | wagnerrp: | there IS some new mechanism you can use with compiz to tell it you really actually do want the full screen |
| [17:27:35] | wagnerrp: | and i thought mythtv had some kind of support for it |
| [17:27:45] | wagnerrp: | but i dont know what or where that might be |
| [17:29:29] | xavierh: | By the way, I found out for the channel group in live TV, there is a setting burried somewhere to enable it. I thought you might like to NOT know :) |
| [17:30:19] | Mqaximo: | ok just another question, i'm trying to use google in mythbrowser but it doesn't allow me to write in the search box is it not allowed? |
| [17:32:11] | wagnerrp: | you should be able to |
| [17:32:17] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, i dont use mythbrowser |
| [17:33:14] | Mqaximo: | www.google.it |
| [17:33:17] | Mqaximo: | sorry |
| [17:43:02] | Mqaximo: | ok... if i go in Utilities/Setup->Setup->InfoCenter Settings->Web Settings |
| [17:43:10] | Mqaximo: | and put in "browser commands" |
| [17:43:42] | Mqaximo: | instead of "Internal" ->"/usr/bin/chromium-browser %URL" |
| [17:44:05] | Mqaximo: | i'm able to use chromium instead of the original browser |
| [17:44:21] | Mqaximo: | and here i'm able (obviously) to use forms |
| [17:45:29] | wagnerrp: | of course that means you also need to implement your own IR control |
| [17:46:49] | Mqaximo: | hemm... :P i'm trying it on VirtualBox :P |
| [17:47:12] | Mqaximo: | however it's not so important |
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| [17:56:15] | Mqaximo: | Founded! |
| [17:57:08] | Mqaximo: | if you click/select the text-box and press F1, the internal browser allow you o use imput text-field! |
| [17:57:11] | wagnerrp: | presumably youre just trying it, and dont intend to use it in virtualbox? |
| [17:57:58] | Mqaximo: | i'm preparing a tv-box and before to buy some components, i'll try it on virtual box in order to pre-configure it |
| [18:00:44] | Mqaximo: | the only problem that remain and could not be corrected (because is browser-dependent) is that text-fields if not formatted, are shown with a black background. but maybe re-changing theme again it could be corrected too. |
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| [18:03:04] | kenni: | wagnerrp, no, you shouldn't be able to translate the name of the theme – only the theme description shown in the theme downloader |
| [18:05:34] | Mqaximo: | however, thanks all for the big patience :) hope to have further satisfaction with this product. Thanks again, bye! ;) |
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| [18:30:35] | wagnerrp: | sphery: do you know if steven adeff uses irc? |
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| [18:31:32] | sphery: | I don't think so |
| [18:31:41] | sphery: | if so, I've never "recognized" him here |
| [18:31:46] | wagnerrp: | one of his emails lost in the noise |
| [18:31:55] | wagnerrp: | he claims he has no "Transcoders" profile group |
| [18:32:02] | wagnerrp: | should that even be possible? |
| [18:32:22] | sphery: | yeah, I haven't actually looked at my system to see where they are to verify it still works |
| [18:32:41] | sphery: | (haven't booted the dev box since I told him that they're in mythtv-setup, now) |
| [18:32:57] | wagnerrp: | the show up here |
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| [18:34:32] | wagnerrp: | oddly, i dont have a v4l/framegrabber group |
| [18:35:11] | wagnerrp: | or mpeg2 |
| [18:35:21] | wagnerrp: | does that stuff only show up if you have that hardware installed? |
| [18:35:41] | sphery: | yeah, for the actual recording ones |
| [18:35:47] | sphery: | I assumed transcoding ones always showed up |
| [18:35:56] | sphery: | but it's possible that they only show up if you have them in the db |
| [18:36:13] | sphery: | (they /are/ part of an initial DB schema, so everyone /should/ have them) |
| [18:36:32] | sphery: | if so, it means that if you delete them, you're unable to add them back |
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| [20:28:09] | EvilGuru: | Hmm, the mysql server on my mythtv box has sent 213GiB of traffic, what does mythtv query during normal useage? |
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| [21:01:08] | kisak: | EvilGuru: most of the traffic I'm seeing is during the mythfilldatabase cycle, with about a million querys per day over here |
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| [21:08:06] | knightr: | wagnerrp, theme descriptions, yes.. Theme names, no... |
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| [21:08:22] | MylesMan: | hi al |
| [21:09:02] | MylesMan: | all* |
| [21:09:56] | MylesMan: | i'm having iussues with lircskipping lines on a arrow keypress i've tried adjusting the delay & repeat in lircrc file & no dice |
| [21:10:10] | MylesMan: | lirc skipping* |
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| [21:11:40] | wagnerrp: | knightr: thanks, ken ni indicated as much |
| [21:11:57] | wagnerrp: | there was just some italian user talking about the "Earth" theme |
| [21:11:59] | MylesMan: | i tried reinstalling lirc cleanly and still no dice |
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| [21:15:02] | StevenR: | how do I make mythtv record on the correct channel? It seems to tune to the wrong channel and record that instead of the correct programme |
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| [21:15:40] | StevenR: | the guide shows that the programme is on channel X, but myth is recording on channel Y instead. |
| [21:16:28] | StevenR: | and it seems to have picked some really strange channel numbers too. I just can't find the list of actual channels to rectify this. |
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| [21:20:37] | knightr: | wagnerrp, oops, I hadn`t seen his reply... Sorry for the delayed reply, I can't have IRC on my current phone (I definitely need to replace it) and I'm still not back from work (I logged on my home pc to program my MythTV to record the news tonight since there was a metro accident this morning... ttyl |
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| [21:25:02] | xavierh: | StevenR: What channel are they, digital, analog ? you need to give more info |
| [21:28:13] | StevenR: | xavierh: they're freeview channels. I have two DVB usb tuners |
| [21:28:22] | StevenR: | they're connected to the same aerial feed |
| [21:29:24] | xavierh: | Do you use eit or xmltv ? |
| [21:29:31] | StevenR: | xmltv |
| [21:29:33] | xavierh: | StevenR: ^^^ |
| [21:30:01] | xavierh: | ok, did you set the xmltvid for each channel by hand ? |
| [21:31:00] | xavierh: | StevenR: ^^^ |
| [21:32:17] | xavierh: | If not, you will need to. |
| [21:32:19] | StevenR: | not sure. |
| [21:32:29] | StevenR: | looking at mythweb, they all have one |
| [21:32:34] | xavierh: | You would know if you did it :) |
| [21:33:09] | xavierh: | have you got mythweb install, it is probably the quickest way to do it |
| [21:33:37] | StevenR: | yes. All of the channels have one, apart from a couple of non-real ones |
| [21:34:04] | StevenR: | hmm. none of the radio ones have one. |
| [21:35:34] | StevenR: | xavierh: must have done it at some point, as all bar two of the tv channels have one |
| [21:37:54] | xavierh: | StevenR: Maybe a rescan, delete some channel and add new one ? shame it is not auomatic |
| [21:38:12] | xavierh: | s/,// |
| [21:39:36] | xavierh: | wagnerrp: You are always on irc, have you got a script to filter and redirect irc to mythutil --event ? |
| [21:40:58] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [21:41:07] | CyberKnet: | It's actually mapped as a virtual channel. |
| [21:41:13] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [21:41:37] | CyberKnet: | recording device, even. |
| [21:42:23] | xavierh: | I meant mythutil --message :) |
| [21:44:10] | xavierh: | I don't even know how to send a message :( |
| [21:45:16] | wagnerrp: | xavierh: no, im just strangely around when people happen to ask me something |
| [21:49:13] | xavierh: | Any idea how to use mythutil to send message ? |
| [21:49:20] | CyberKnet: | wagnerrp: add that to the wishlist though ... a virtual recording device that outputs IRC as a recordable channel :D |
| [21:49:33] | wagnerrp: | already on there |
| [21:49:50] | wagnerrp: | in a sense... |
| [21:55:37] | sphery: | xavierh: you didn't know that wagnerrp is a bot? |
| [21:56:10] | sphery: | we may, finally, be able to pass the Turing test |
| [21:59:29] | kisak: | if wagnerrp is a bot, he/it is one of the best I've ever seen |
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| [22:02:41] | sphery: | The only part we've been unable to do, so far, is actually enforce the first and second laws of robotics--and he only seems to follow half of the third law. |
| [22:03:09] | ** wagnerrp appreciates the praise ** | |
| [22:03:39] | ** wagnerrp stands by and watches sphery get mauled by a rabid user ** | |
| [22:04:50] | sphery: | hehe, *cough*, *ow* |
| [22:06:51] | kisak: | hmm ... I probably should set a regular interval to run ntp-update on this desktop |
| [22:07:05] | kisak: | the rtc isn't particularly good |
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| [22:09:39] | sphery: | just run ntp |
| [22:10:39] | sphery: | like ntpd or whatever... and have it pointed to a single machine on your network (or your router) that runs ntpd and updates from an upstream source at pool.ntp.org |
| [22:11:27] | sphery: | (or, better, your continental or country zone server – http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html ) |
| [22:11:45] | kisak: | I run ntpd on my mythbackend ... perhaps it's time to set that up to accept ntp requests |
| [22:13:19] | sphery: | should just be a matter of setting the approriate restrict values in your ntp.conf and making sure your firewall isn't blocking it |
| [22:15:29] | kisak: | 2 characters later and a service restart ... |
| [22:20:25] | sphery: | nice |
| [22:20:37] | sphery: | wish all things were that easy |
| [22:21:30] | xavierh: | sphery: :D |
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| [22:45:12] | rooter7: | Compile err on 0.24. Any idea why? http://pastebin.com/CBqDqav2 |
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| [22:51:13] | adamu: | Comcast cable card issues...first world problems |
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| [22:58:45] | sphery: | rooter7: there are no errors shown in that excerpt, likely because you're doing a multi-job compile and the actual errors were way up before that and other jobs completed successfully after |
| [22:59:08] | sphery: | rooter7: so either re-run the make and get the end of that log with the actual error or--ideally--run without -j option |
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| [23:01:31] | rooter7: | Thanks sphery. Yes I used -j 4 |
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| [23:04:41] | rooter7: | Err with no -j: http://pastebin.com/kHWWuqat |
| [23:05:07] | sphery: | mythmainwindow_internal.h:10:21: fatal error: QGLWidget: No such file or directory |
| [23:05:15] | sphery: | so you don't have qt opengl support installed |
| [23:05:22] | sphery: | what distro? |
| [23:05:28] | rooter7: | Debian Testing |
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| [23:07:49] | sphery: | rooter7: pkg-config --version QtOpenGL |
| [23:08:19] | rooter7: | 0.26 |
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| [23:08:54] | sphery: | do you have your configure output, still? |
| [23:10:05] | rooter7: | I can make it again. BRB |
| [23:12:22] | rooter7: | http://pastebin.com/R5ArUSYg |
| [23:13:54] | rooter7: | Can't find an opengl package, per se... |
| [23:14:26] | sphery: | rooter7: you're using a lot of configure options you shouldn't be using... you should make distclean, then: ./configure --enable-proc-opt |
| [23:14:51] | sphery: | the configure line you're using will cause breakage--even if you get it to compile, you'll end up with broken mythtv |
| [23:16:12] | rooter7: | OK, making... |
| [23:17:59] | rooter7: | Same crash: http://pastebin.com/mhu6GT8B |
| [23:19:20] | sphery: | I'm guessing you're missing the dev package for libqt4-opengl or whatever it's called? |
| [23:19:36] | sphery: | this is the joy of using a distro that feels it has to break things up into tiny pieces... |
| [23:19:43] | sphery: | you get to learn all the pieces |
| [23:19:55] | rooter7: | :( |
| [23:20:11] | sphery: | also, you /are/ using 0.24-fixes, right (and not some old 0.24 release package) |
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| [23:20:22] | sphery: | 0.24.2 /might/ work, but 0.24-fixes is the best choice |
| [23:20:33] | sphery: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac under, "Stable: If you'd like to get the 0.24 stable branch, do this: " |
| [23:21:58] | johnsu01: | so I haven't gone searching much yet, but how do I get my recording schedule back on track after the daylight savings time change? |
| [23:22:19] | johnsu01: | the system time is right, but mythtv is recording everything an hour earlier than it should now |
| [23:22:42] | rooter7: | Yup, missing libqt4-opengl & dev. Trying again. |
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| [23:23:11] | sphery: | johnsu01: what's your program listings source? |
| [23:24:17] | johnsu01: | sphery: schedules direct |
| [23:25:09] | sphery: | johnsu01: it shouldn't have wrong times on it... |
| [23:25:18] | sphery: | but for now, run: mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all |
| [23:25:34] | sphery: | then carefully check your configuration to make sure that, for example, you don't have EIT enabled or something |
| [23:25:58] | sphery: | also, you should probably restart mythbackend as it seems for some reason your system didn't "notice" the change |
| [23:26:08] | johnsu01: | yeah, I've restarted the backend |
| [23:26:55] | johnsu01: | I tried --refresh-all, trying --dd-grab-all now |
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| [23:27:08] | sphery: | yeah, you should never use --refresh-all with Schedules Direct |
| [23:28:10] | johnsu01: | hm --dd-grab-all seems to have fixed it |
| [23:28:12] | sphery: | (it didn't break anything when you did, but it isn't ideal) |
| [23:28:25] | johnsu01: | at least now the upcoming recording list is correct |
| [23:29:19] | sphery: | johnsu01: especially since that was pretty darn quick, you should see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/449426#449426 and https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/d2822566 |
| [23:29:57] | sphery: | your listings will be better/more accurate, and you'll always have the most-up-to-date data, and it's less strain on Schedules Direct |
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| [23:31:21] | johnsu01: | sphery: ah, thanks — yeah, I'm only doing OTA so really not fetching that much data |
| [23:31:56] | johnsu01: | I wonder if that also fixed the description mismatches I was having sometimes |
| [23:31:59] | johnsu01: | looks like it did |
| [23:32:42] | sphery: | if you're having description mismatches, you almost definitely have enabled EIT on channels that use Schedules Direct--which will wreak havoc on your listings |
| [23:33:01] | sphery: | you should turn off "Use on-air guide" on your Video Source in mythtv-setup |
| [23:33:11] | johnsu01: | well, the mismatches started when I moved |
| [23:33:31] | johnsu01: | but I'll look at that |
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| [23:38:26] | rooter7: | sphery: it's compiling... further than it's gone since I reinstalled Debian... |
| [23:39:05] | rooter7: | Maybe I'll actually have TV tonight. |
| [23:39:41] | rooter7: | Sons of Bitc-- I mean Sons of Guns, here I come. |
| [23:40:27] | sphery: | hope it works |
| [23:40:29] | sphery: | good luck |
| [23:41:36] | rooter7: | IT FINISHED! Now I try mythplugins... |
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| [23:51:19] | sphery: | rooter7: remember you have to install mythtv before compiling mythplugins |
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| [23:57:07] | rooter7: | Yp... just got all plugins dependencies satisfied. Now trying compile. |
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