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| [00:42:25] | wagnerrp: | David Crawford needs to stop doing anything related to computers |
| [00:42:29] | wagnerrp: | he cant handle them |
| [00:44:17] | wagnerrp: | "Here is MediaInfo output showing the recording made by mythtv was done when the broadcaster was sending 50% higher bitrate. Does anyone know why recordings made with mythtv are 50% larger?" |
| [00:46:00] | [R]: | lol |
| [00:46:28] | wagnerrp: | the guy tries putting 2 and 2 together, but somehow gets -17 |
| [00:47:32] | ertyu-m: | maybe he only has a 2 bit computer |
| [00:49:12] | wagnerrp: | the guy is claiming hes using both MythTV and DVBViewer to perform recordings, and theyre coming up with different sizes |
| [00:49:25] | wagnerrp: | he fails to mention hes not actually recording the same shows with both applications |
| [00:49:43] | wagnerrp: | meaning any comparison between the two is COMPLETELY WORTHLESS |
| [00:50:27] | [R]: | COMPLETELY |
| [00:51:15] | wagnerrp: | you know, a month back, i tried beating this guy with the basic programming stick, trying to get him to figure out how to stitch some chunks of code together for his intended purpose |
| [00:51:25] | wagnerrp: | except it was like playing jumble |
| [00:51:29] | wagnerrp: | there was no logic to it |
| [00:51:37] | wagnerrp: | he took the bits i gave him |
| [00:52:19] | wagnerrp: | and continued to randomly arrange them with no sign of intelligence, post them back to the mailing list, and ask me if that was right |
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| [00:53:00] | wagnerrp: | it was like watching an infant try to do connect-the-dots |
| [00:53:26] | wagnerrp: | i need to not get involved this time around |
| [00:53:43] | [R]: | lol |
| [00:53:52] | [R]: | you're already involved |
| [00:54:14] | wagnerrp: | no, im done |
| [00:54:19] | wagnerrp: | i wash my hands of that thread |
| [00:54:21] | [R]: | that's what she said |
| [00:54:24] | wagnerrp: | im not looking at any more responses |
| [00:54:27] | [R]: | haha |
| [00:55:21] | tmkt: | MythTV Companion looks pretty fabulous |
| [00:56:02] | wagnerrp: | is that the name of iamlindoro's thing? |
| [00:56:09] | tmkt: | yeah |
| [00:56:13] | tmkt: | just watching the vids now |
| [00:56:26] | wagnerrp: | new ones? or the several month old ones? |
| [00:56:30] | tmkt: | several mnths old |
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| [00:56:50] | tmkt: | getting "the new ipad" this week probably..so just looking up stuff up |
| [00:57:02] | tmkt: | since the boxee app doesn't seem very useful |
| [00:57:17] | tmkt: | unless i ran mythtv on osx or windows |
| [00:57:18] | wagnerrp: | i dont think he intends to put it up for sale until after the release |
| [00:57:45] | tmkt: | after the release or 0.25? |
| [00:57:58] | wagnerrp: | it only works with 0.25, nothing newer |
| [00:58:18] | tmkt: | there's newer the 0.25? |
| [00:58:30] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [00:58:38] | wagnerrp: | er... nothing older |
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| [00:58:50] | tmkt: | yup..makes sense...needs the api |
| [00:59:13] | tmkt: | guessing that api will help make a boxee app easier to do also |
| [00:59:16] | skd5aner: | I'd be surprised if he releases it for mythtv at all |
| [00:59:35] | skd5aner: | I'd almost assume at this point he's going to rebrand it and customize it to be a torc based app |
| [00:59:50] | tmkt: | ah he went with the torc fork? |
| [00:59:54] | skd5aner: | that said, the differences between mythtv and the torc API right now might be small enough not to matter |
| [01:00:08] | skd5aner: | but I don't see him releaseing it at the same time 0.25 is released |
| [01:00:10] | wagnerrp: | hes got feet in both pools |
| [01:00:25] | skd5aner: | tmkt: he's one of the main devs associated with torc now, but still contributes (a little) to mythtv |
| [01:00:37] | tmkt: | shame the split happened |
| [01:01:28] | skd5aner: | that said, I lurk in their channel as well – and he's recently mentioned ordering a "new ipad" and modifying the app to work with the new resolution and has given some hints that he's using torc as his basis for working on the app now |
| [01:01:50] | skd5aner: | again – all speculation though – until he says something either way, I've no idea |
| [01:02:01] | tmkt: | torc even have a web site? |
| [01:02:13] | skd5aner: | yes, torcdvr.com I believe |
| [01:02:36] | tmkt: | ah...seo isn't very good |
| [01:02:50] | skd5aner: | well, not sure they've really thought about that (at all) yet |
| [01:03:04] | tmkt: | pretty web site |
| [01:03:15] | tmkt: | pretty front page i shoudl re-phrase |
| [01:03:17] | tmkt: | content is pretty slim |
| [01:04:54] | skd5aner: | I wish it didn't happen either – that said, I kind of understand /why/ it happened |
| [01:05:49] | tmkt: | any details on that? or could you share you understanding of it? all i've heard was the final straw was removing the raop key from source |
| [01:06:18] | skd5aner: | I hope the fact that it did happen has a postitive impact on MythTV as well, in terms of how things are run and managed – we'll see |
| [01:06:39] | skd5aner: | tmkt: think of that as the straw on the camels back... |
| [01:06:52] | tmkt: | Hmm...hard to see how splitting a team into 2 smaller teams not working together would be good |
| [01:06:59] | tmkt: | Only makes sense to keep the key out of the code |
| [01:07:50] | skd5aner: | tmkt: I'm on the outside, and can only speculate, which I don't want to do too much of... but in fairness of full disclosure, I think it's important to talk about – but basically, some devs wanted things to happen faster than they were without having to wait for approval to work on things or change things and then wait 6–18 months before approval to do so |
| [01:09:24] | skd5aner: | it basically boils down to the fact that no one is clearly in command, yet some devs have veto power or make it difficult when people want to make any sort of "distruptive" change... |
| [01:09:55] | skd5aner: | they mean well, but the red tape can slow down the implementation of things people want to accomplish |
| [01:10:35] | tmkt: | makes sense...can't afford to wait 6 months to make changes with the amount of alternatives out there right now, need to be fleet of foot |
| [01:10:57] | tmkt: | but still have to be able to avoid the coders developing into a bunch of cowboys |
| [01:11:20] | tmkt: | the red tape does suck..that was part of what I found was the downfall of yahoo when i worked there |
| [01:11:28] | skd5aner: | I think asking Mark to remove the RAOP key was the right call, but again – it was probably just one more example of someone telling/asking him to not do something he felt was the way to go (right or wrong)... |
| [01:12:02] | tmkt: | when i started...getting things done...got done.. 7 years later it was more work to convince people to get things done then to do them |
| [01:12:17] | skd5aner: | tmkt: yea, same thing I go through daily in my job |
| [01:12:26] | tmkt: | having the key in there is just asking for issues |
| [01:12:57] | skd5aner: | tmkt: there were larger debates I guess about things such as only supporting opengl for the painter and getting rid of Xv/Qt painter, etc... |
| [01:13:35] | tmkt: | yeah...quite a difference leaving that kind of environment and going back to startup again 15 people 7 developers |
| [01:13:53] | tmkt: | i think of a good idea, it's done in 2 hrs, tested for the next 2, and on live machines the next morning |
| [01:13:56] | skd5aner: | he wanted to do those a few years ago, so that they could focus on providing features on opengl only... but there were a few devs that wanted to hold off on that for a few releases in order to give "fair warning" to users who might be using legacy hardware that wouldn't support it |
| [01:14:16] | skd5aner: | tmkt: hiring? ;-) |
| [01:14:18] | skd5aner: | heh |
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| [01:14:23] | tmkt: | always |
| [01:14:43] | tmkt: | php/mysq/operational skills Toronto |
| [01:15:16] | tmkt: | a company no one has ever heard of pretty much |
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| [01:30:17] | simcop2387: | Are there any builds of 0.25 for debian? or failing that a set of instructions for building the packages from source control. |
| [01:31:56] | [R]: | d/l the source |
| [01:32:00] | [R]: | run configure make |
| [01:32:01] | [R]: | profit |
| [01:32:36] | simcop2387: | i'm after a way to uninstall it cleanly if i run into a serious problem with it. |
| [01:33:09] | [R]: | install it into a prefix |
| [01:33:42] | tmkt: | the mythbuntu builds perhaps? |
| [01:34:14] | simcop2387: | tmkt: didn't think about them, i'll check them out see if they've got development builds |
| [01:34:42] | tmkt: | i'm using those |
| [01:35:06] | tmkt: | 2:0.25.0~master.20120311.7862c79–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 |
| [01:36:33] | simcop2387: | ah cool |
| [01:38:40] | simcop2387: | the REALLY fun part of this will be moving the database and everything, i'm working on rebuilding my whole setup so that the frontends that record can shut down when not in use. |
| [01:39:03] | simcop2387: | well into suspend mode at least anyway. |
| [01:40:16] | [R]: | mv /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg /somewhere/else |
| [01:40:19] | [R]: | not that hard... |
| [01:41:36] | simcop2387: | it will be when i'm turning my former master backend into a slave |
| [01:49:25] | wagnerrp: | woo! hit the floor butter-side-up |
| [01:51:14] | simcop2387: | wagnerrp: watching mythbuster reruns? |
| [01:51:14] | tmkt: | ] |
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| [01:52:28] | wagnerrp: | no, i just dropped a bagel |
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| [03:47:24] | slappy: | Hello again, I retried a recording that consistently fails at the 5:00 mark in Handbrake. I tried it in windows with the handbrake gui using the MPEG4 encoder, the MPEG2 encoder and the H.264 encoder, all of them fail at the 5:00 mark or 8.59% of the roughly 1hr long program. Anyone know why handbrake would fail to get beyond this point, yet mythtv or VLC can play the original recording file with no problem? |
| [03:48:01] | slappy: | [23:30:51] stream: 107776 good frames, 0 errors (0%) [23:30:51] libhb: work result = 0 |
| [03:48:18] | slappy: | Encode done! HandBrake has exited. |
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| [04:22:15] | slappy: | Anyone have issues with handbrake on recorded TV shows, where it works on some but not on others with NO error given? |
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| [04:31:09] | mindstormmaster: | I have a problem with mythtranscode. I get a "Column 'rechost' cannot be null" error on the inuseprograms table. I'm using 0.25_pre20120223 on gentoo |
| [04:34:20] | slappy: | I'm going to try mencoder and see if it has problems with the same mythtv recording |
| [04:44:09] | oobe: | I use mencoder without issues on mpeg2 dvb recordings |
| [04:45:33] | oobe: | this is the script I use http://pastebin.com/ufVHGyf2 |
| [04:45:47] | oobe: | Its 16:9 I also have one in 4:3 |
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| [04:56:11] | slappy: | the only trouble I have there is that I am trying to encode for an iphone4 and haven't quite found the necessary mencode settings for that yet |
| [04:56:28] | slappy: | The resolution I wanted to use was 9660x540 |
| [04:56:33] | slappy: | 960x540 rather |
| [04:56:57] | slappy: | my original recording is 1920x1080 |
| [04:57:24] | oobe: | ah just change the numbers in the script |
| [04:57:47] | oobe: | for resolution |
| [04:58:23] | oobe: | I am not sure if mencoder has a h264 encoding |
| [04:58:26] | oobe: | probably does |
| [04:58:36] | oobe: | but h264 sounds like what you want |
| [04:59:53] | slappy: | thanks! |
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| [07:26:36] | [R]: | wagnerrp: you there? |
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| [10:32:12] | xavierh: | Could someone remind me how to access to the http setup for the backend ? |
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| [11:37:24] | wagnerrp: | xavierh: it has been disabled |
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| [13:31:30] | xavierh: | wagnerrp: How can I enable it ? |
| [13:33:31] | xavierh: | Also I reinstall my mythbox yesterda from <0.22 to 0.25 (mythbuntu). I did not use the same hostname. How can I remove my old input card? |
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| [13:34:39] | xavierh: | Also I notice mythbackend can not create the thumbnail for recording priior change of host name but I can watch them ...? |
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| [13:49:51] | wagnerrp: | xavierh: not sure off hand, i would look through commits in mythtv/html |
| [13:50:04] | wagnerrp: | chances are someone just removed a menu entry that gave access to it |
| [13:50:19] | wagnerrp: | and its otherwise still completely functional |
| [13:50:57] | wagnerrp: | in order to remove a tuner card, youve got two options |
| [13:51:18] | wagnerrp: | set the LocalHostName option in your mysql.txt to override the system's hostname for settings |
| [13:51:29] | wagnerrp: | or remove all tuner cards (on all systems), and add them all back |
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| [13:51:53] | wagnerrp: | and <0.22 -> 0.25? |
| [13:51:57] | wagnerrp: | that shouldnt be possible |
| [13:52:22] | wagnerrp: | the schema update routines dont allow for such any longer |
| [13:58:52] | xavierh: | wagnerrp: Yes, I had to do a stop at 0.24 on the way :) |
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| [14:30:11] | cbovy: | hi! Is it possible to scan and update DVB-channels from cli on a periodic basis? Or possible to automatically update DVB channels? |
| [14:30:22] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [14:30:51] | cbovy: | ok, thanks for quick and clear answer. :-) |
| [14:31:09] | wagnerrp: | generally, the only people who have reason to frequently scan for channels are digital cable users in north america |
| [14:31:29] | wagnerrp: | where the cable providers use a virtual channel mapping that tuner cards do not have access to |
| [14:31:54] | cbovy: | in NL the cable provider moves/adds channels very often (minimum once a month). |
| [14:32:10] | wagnerrp: | allowing them to shift channels around, while seemlessly pushing out channel updates to their first party hardware, while screwing users trying to access those channels through other means |
| [14:33:14] | xavierh: | wagnerrp: My problem is not only tunner, but also storage group. I believe that the thumbnail generation does not work because it tries to use the storage group on my previous hostname |
| [14:33:54] | xavierh: | don't understand why this is a problem for thumbnail generation but not for watching |
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| [14:35:24] | wagnerrp: | it should try to have the host that recorded the show perform thumbnail generation |
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| [14:35:45] | wagnerrp: | perhaps playback has an additional level of fallthrough to the master backend that preview generation does not |
| [14:36:10] | wagnerrp: | or maybe those recordings are accessible on your local filesystem on your frontend, and are being played directly |
| [14:36:27] | wagnerrp: | while the master backend fails preview generation because that hostname is not available to do so |
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| [14:39:23] | cbovy: | wagnerrp: I just checked the changes done by my cable-provider: In February 4 times they changed channels, transportstream, service-ID. |
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| [14:41:05] | TheAsp: | whats the setting in the database that adjusts how long myth waits for data from a recorder? |
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| [14:43:47] | wagnerrp: | TheAsp: you set it in the tuner configuration in mythtv-setup |
| [14:44:35] | TheAsp: | yeah, but what is it in the database |
| [14:44:51] | wagnerrp: | i dont know |
| [14:45:04] | wagnerrp: | go into mythtv-setup, change the value, and compare the database before and after |
| [14:45:11] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [14:48:41] | TheAsp: | capturecard.signal_timeout |
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| [14:54:09] | wagnerrp: | is there a particular reason you dont want to use mythtv-setup as was intended? |
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| [15:46:09] | TheAsp: | wagnerrp: dont have access to x atm, was just checking the value |
| [15:46:25] | TheAsp: | had a 0 length recording last night after upgrading |
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| [16:44:32] | wagnerrp: | devinheitmueller: take evasive action! its a trap! |
| [16:44:54] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: heh. |
| [16:45:08] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, I saw your comments earlier on the channel log. ;-) |
| [16:46:19] | wagnerrp: | hes going to be asking you what options to run tsreader with |
| [16:46:33] | wagnerrp: | and then what each of the outputs means |
| [16:46:51] | wagnerrp: | it will be like rtty-over-fleshy-carrier |
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| [17:18:41] | adam_: | does anyone have a script to restart lirc and mythfrotnend that can execute when the computer wakes from sleep |
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| [18:27:47] | adam_: | .msg wagnerrp hey wagnerrp |
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| [18:53:39] | drac_boy: | hi |
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| [18:57:27] | wagnerrp: | adam_ ? |
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| [19:33:51] | adam_: | .msg wagnerrp Hey wagnerrp, yesterday I had a issue with the bleutooth remote creating a new event handler everytime the frotnend came out of sleep, I made a script with restarts lirc and restarts mythfrontend when it wakesup from sleep |
| [19:34:40] | wagnerrp: | ok? |
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| [19:35:04] | wagnerrp: | lircd just sends events |
| [19:35:18] | wagnerrp: | you should be able to restart lircd, and mythfrontend should reconnect to the new instance |
| [19:35:22] | wagnerrp: | without needing to be restarted itself |
| [19:35:34] | wagnerrp: | you may have to -HUP mythfrontend, im not sure |
| [19:36:10] | wagnerrp: | as to why it keeps creating a new event device, as opposed to reusing an old one |
| [19:36:18] | wagnerrp: | thats something you would have to ask your distro |
| [19:37:23] | adam_: | i just set the script to restart bluetooth |
| [19:37:28] | adam_: | works lol |
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| [20:10:16] | wagnerrp: | sphery: perhaps some revisions to http://mythtv/org/wiki/OTA_Daylight_Savings_T . . . _Not_Honored |
| [20:11:28] | wagnerrp: | off hand... going into mythtv-setup is unnecessary, if anything actually happens, a restart of the backend to let it know of the emptied table would be sufficient |
| [20:12:14] | wagnerrp: | going into mythfrontend is unnecessary, as the backend will automatically start polling content on its own... or waiting until a recording (which wont happen) or livetv, depending on active/passive mode |
| [20:12:51] | wagnerrp: | and the whole thing is for broadcast EIT only, SD and XMLTV should be unaffected |
| [20:14:34] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i assume the problem is that EIT data is transmitted as X hours in the future, rather than a specific time |
| [20:15:08] | wagnerrp: | so mythtv would need to know that a certain hour would be missing/added, and compensate when inserting programs |
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| [20:35:05] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, definitely should specify that it's only for EIT users and taking out the mythtv-setup is good |
| [20:35:50] | sphery: | not sure how to deal with different distros start/stop approaches (i.e. sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop |
| [20:36:08] | sphery: | vs sudo /etc/rc.d/init.d/mythbackend stop vs service mythbackend stop ...) |
| [20:36:28] | wagnerrp: | should that even be necessary? |
| [20:36:30] | sphery: | but easiest may be just say, "stop and restart mythbackend, for example:" |
| [20:36:47] | wagnerrp: | i mean is there some internal stored table of EIT data that needs to be flushed before the backend will try to repopulate it? |
| [20:37:01] | wagnerrp: | because it assumes the data is already there (and in normal cases it should be there) |
| [20:37:08] | sphery: | restarting will restart the eit grabber |
| [20:37:20] | sphery: | might not be necessary |
| [20:37:53] | sphery: | main benefit is that it kicks off a new run 5min after restart (rather than waiting until mythtv decides to run another grab) |
| [20:38:06] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [20:38:18] | sphery: | not sure how long it would be without restart--might even be less than 5mins... |
| [20:38:25] | sphery: | would need to ask someone who knows eit better |
| [20:38:49] | sphery: | part of me is under the impression that once it starts grabbing it goes until the tuner is needed for something else |
| [20:39:02] | sphery: | part of me assumes that there's some logic to only scan when appropriate |
| [20:39:20] | sphery: | but I really think it's actually the first and that the "only when appropriate logic" was a TODO |
| [20:39:33] | sphery: | meaning it may well start again faster without restart |
| [20:48:22] | wagnerrp: | perhaps there is a 'last modified' flag in the EIT data |
| [20:48:34] | wagnerrp: | so the backend will not keep continually scanning over the same data |
| [20:48:45] | wagnerrp: | if it hasnt changed, it knows not to bother with it |
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| [21:13:00] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: you about? |
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| [21:19:51] | wagnerrp: | gah! WTF... |
| [21:20:25] | wagnerrp: | someone from china has been hammering my smtp server since about 7AM this morning |
| [21:20:39] | wagnerrp: | and its making mailman complain about my address |
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| [21:30:22] | coop: | that's when you add all APNIC IPs to your ACL :-D |
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| [21:52:53] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'm here |
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| [22:10:01] | Zigi: | Hi all, i cant get my harmony 600 to run with my dvbsky s952 IR receiver. I tried several lirc configurations and still i dont get any "irw" output |
| [22:11:43] | kenni: | Beirdo: out of curiosity, did you ever receive the SD card I sent you? :) |
| [22:12:12] | Beirdo: | yes, thank you :) |
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| [22:12:46] | Beirdo: | that reminds me, must put it on top of the frontend box so I don't misplace it. I'll have to remember when I get home |
| [22:13:26] | kenni: | cool :) |
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| [22:35:37] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: was going to see if you could check why none of my outbound emails to the list were going through |
| [22:35:42] | wagnerrp: | but i found my answer |
| [22:36:00] | wagnerrp: | seems mailman has temporarily suspended me due to bounced email |
| [22:36:15] | wagnerrp: | caused by someone hammering my server all day |
| [22:39:48] | wagnerrp: | since i seem unable to send email to the mailing list at the moment, could someone forward a message for me to the 'limit channels on different tuners?' thread? |
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| [22:48:51] | jya: | sphery: what makes mythfrontend decides to upgrade the database? I'm seeing a very weird behaviour. 90% of the time when I start mythfrontend on my mac (against an empty mythconverg database), it just tells me that it needs upgrading and I have to start mythbackend or mythtv-setup. But from time to time, mythfrontend or mythavtest decides that it's all okay, they can do the upgrade themselves |
| [22:50:01] | sphery: | if with an empty database, the problem is what I mentioned to stuartm in #mythtv a few days ago--a change a year ago broke the schema wizard so it doesn't necessarily know that it's a new db |
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| [22:50:47] | jya: | sphery: it's just bizarre that sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't |
| [22:50:48] | sphery: | in theory, mythfrontend can create a database schema if the schema is empty, but since we don't know that it was just created in the schema wizard, it fails |
| [22:51:16] | jya: | ah, I think I know when… if I get on the prompt to enter the IP address of mysql, then it will do the upgrade.. otherwise it won't |
| [22:51:16] | sphery: | the issue will be "swept under the rug" for the 0.25 release when I rollup the initial db creation to current-for-release 0.25 schema version |
| [22:51:50] | sphery: | but as soon as someone changes schema version in master, it will be back to the confused init |
| [22:51:57] | jya: | I actually want it to upgrade the database, it's for me debugging why the frontend with the new build script do not work with 0.24 |
| [22:54:02] | jya: | hum.. I can't reproduce it now… it never wants to create the proper schema.. damn.. |
| [22:54:57] | sphery: | yeah, I think when I update the initialization to go to current version, you won't see the issue (it will create a new schema for you at the proper version) |
| [22:55:38] | sphery: | basically, though, the old fix broke upgrades and fixed a few other things |
| [22:55:39] | jya: | I just want to know why it worked *sometimes*.. and what I have to do to make it work all the time.. this is purely for my testing environment |
| [22:55:50] | jya: | I'm with 0.24 still |
| [22:56:19] | sphery: | and since the only way to have both working properly without major redesign is to do the rollup and have initialization go to the proper schema version, that's the approach we're taking for 0.25 |
| [22:56:42] | sphery: | and I'm hoping we'll actually rewrite/redesign the schema wizard to be mythui compatible and work properly for 0.25 |
| [22:56:45] | sphery: | er, 0.26 |
| [22:57:36] | Zigi: | any hint how to fix "ir receiver hardware fifo overrun" ?? |
| [23:01:16] | jya: | sphery: I hear what you are saying about 0.25 or 0.26… but that doesn't explain to me why in 0.24, sometimes it creates the database, and sometimes it won't |
| [23:01:27] | jya: | what do I have to do to make it do it all the time |
| [23:04:03] | sphery: | jya: it's broken in 0.24-fixes, too. You could just revert https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/25a1255482fd , but you'll break other initialization stuff |
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| [23:04:15] | sphery: | (i.e. the fix got backported) |
| [23:07:06] | jya: | that may be.. but what I was trying yesterday was using the latest fixes/0.24.. and it certainly created my schema properly |
| [23:14:43] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: do you have access to the email logs? |
| [23:14:56] | wagnerrp: | actually.. i might |
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| [23:16:04] | Beirdo: | yes, but you should as well |
| [23:16:47] | wagnerrp: | trying to figure out why none of my emails seem to be getting sent |
| [23:16:57] | Beirdo: | which list? |
| [23:17:11] | wagnerrp: | at the moment -users |
| [23:17:33] | wagnerrp: | but anything i send that hits anywhere beyond my ISP's MX seems to die |
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| [23:19:24] | Beirdo: | I don't think it's at our server |
| [23:19:48] | Beirdo: | likely some asshat got you into an RBL |
| [23:20:07] | wagnerrp: | but its not me, i route my traffic through my ISP's MX |
| [23:20:16] | wagnerrp: | so if im blocked, my whole ISP is blocked |
| [23:20:27] | Beirdo: | try sending me a direct email to my gmail? |
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| [23:20:36] | sphery: | wagnerrp: has happened to me, before |
| [23:20:42] | wagnerrp: | i tried sending stuff to my rwagner at mythtv account |
| [23:20:52] | wagnerrp: | i see the logs where it seems to be delivered |
| [23:21:08] | sphery: | a certain clueless RBL adds one or more of Earthlink's Atlanta mail servers to their RBL with an automatic expiry of 1day or so |
| [23:21:37] | sphery: | (and, so far, I haven't been able to explain the concept of RBLs to Earthlink in time to get them to realize that the RBL needs to be slapped around a bit) |
| [23:22:03] | sphery: | since it just gets removed before I can escalate to a guy who knows what an RBL is |
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| [23:24:46] | wagnerrp: | actually, those test emails seem to have died somewhere in my inbound maildrop filter |
| [23:26:00] | k-man: | jya, is your OSX script supposed to download and install QT? |
| [23:26:10] | wagnerrp: | oh, right... everything else on that account automatically gets bumped to the mythtv folder |
| [23:26:49] | wagnerrp: | sphery: so i guess i send to your mythtv account this time? |
| [23:27:35] | jya: | k-man: it depends on the type of build |
| [23:28:11] | jya: | but in all cases it does download the source to compile the mysql plugin |
| [23:28:45] | k-man: | jya, oh because i attempted to build against QT installed from homebrew and i failed. |
| [23:29:07] | k-man: | jya, and I couldn't tell how to get your script to build Qt (maybe I'm missing something?) |
| [23:31:25] | wagnerrp: | booooo..... |
| [23:31:32] | k-man: | ah -qtsrc? i missed that the first time |
| [23:31:38] | wagnerrp: | no one cares about what happens after the final episode of the bachelor |
| [23:31:43] | wagnerrp: | or before the final episode of the bachelor |
| [23:32:11] | wagnerrp: | stop pre-emting castle with garbage scripted reality shows |
| [23:33:00] | drac_boy: | heh heh |
| [23:33:04] | sphery: | wagnerrp: pre-empt like castle isn't airing or something? |
| [23:33:12] | sphery: | do I need to delete and allow re-record or extend a recording? |
| [23:33:15] | wagnerrp: | nope, no castle tonight |
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| [23:33:45] | wagnerrp: | two hours of "The Bachelor", followed by yet another hour of "The Bachelor: After the Final Rose" |
| [23:33:52] | sphery: | ah, ok, then it's picked up by --dd-grab-all |
| [23:34:05] | sphery: | wasn't sure if you meant tonight or some other ep |
| [23:34:05] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [23:34:22] | wagnerrp: | pretty sure this was originally scheduled, not actually preempted |
| [23:34:30] | sphery: | ah, ok |
| [23:34:37] | wagnerrp: | ive seen shows of that name show up in past seasons |
| [23:35:02] | sphery: | just got worried... Would have been very mad if I went to watch this season of Castle this summer and ended up missing an ep because of the bachelor |
| [23:35:55] | wagnerrp: | nothing like a day where two of the big four are running garbage, and a third is all reruns |
| [23:36:49] | sphery: | that's a good thing, for me... now that I'm down a 1.5TB HDD, I'm having a hard time keeping up with recordings to prevent autoexpiring |
| [23:37:36] | wagnerrp: | when did that happen? |
| [23:38:18] | sphery: | (and worst part is that the 1.5TB had bad sectors, so I ran SeaTools, which "fixed" them (after a reformat), so now it won't error in SeaTools, but I know that the bad sectors will spread, so I don't trust it--using it would be about as dangerous as it was when it started getting errors) |
| [23:38:54] | sphery: | it was months ago... haven't bought a new one since I'm hoping to defer it until prices are back down to where they were |
| [23:39:21] | wagnerrp: | theyre getting close |
| [23:39:26] | wagnerrp: | still about 50% high |
| [23:39:33] | sphery: | yeah, January was when I lost it |
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| [23:39:46] | wagnerrp: | and more like 70% if they had kept going down like they had been |
| [23:40:12] | sphery: | Yeah, I'm hoping for a 2TB in the <$100 range |
| [23:41:38] | sphery: | I'd love to get it around $80 |
| [23:42:24] | sphery: | seems best on newegg right now is around $129 including shipping |
| [23:42:57] | wagnerrp: | i thought i saw one for $120 a few days back |
| [23:45:11] | wagnerrp: | oh... $7.28 shipping |
| [23:46:22] | sphery: | yeah |
| [23:46:52] | sphery: | I should probably re-test the drive and see if it will fail with bad sectors, again |
| [23:47:00] | sphery: | I haven't been writing to it, so I doubt it will |
| [23:47:17] | wagnerrp: | its a shame anandtech's RTPE died |
| [23:47:30] | sphery: | maybe I should just set up a computer to write to it until it starts getting more errors |
| [23:47:55] | wagnerrp: | well this is interesting... |
| [23:49:16] | wagnerrp: | based off my previous history at buy.com, they recommend a 73" cat scratching house, 180 tabs of anavar (some diet supplement?), a precision replacement stock for a sniper rifle, and an acoustic ukulele |
| [23:49:32] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [23:49:47] | wagnerrp: | i dont think ive bought anything there in several years, i guess thats its version of a "divide by zero" |
| [23:49:58] | Beirdo: | the sniper rifle is a necessity to deal with whoever picks up the ukulele at 3am |
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| [23:50:31] | wagnerrp: | isnt the proper procedure to grab it, and beat it to kindling against the wall? |
| [23:50:55] | Beirdo: | yeah, but that's harder to do while lying on your bed beside a window. |
| [23:50:57] | wagnerrp: | of course after which, you apologize, and go back to the toga party |
| [23:51:05] | Beirdo: | you'd actually have to get up |
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| [23:52:11] | wagnerrp: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eh2KPGBHMM |
| [23:52:45] | Beirdo: | hehe, a great scene to be sure |
| [23:53:02] | wagnerrp: | now, what did i actually come here for... |
| [23:53:06] | wagnerrp: | ... right, hard drives |
| [23:58:06] | wagnerrp: | sphery: buy.com has one for $125 – $25 rebate, free shipping |
| [23:58:20] | wagnerrp: | but its from "Fantom", meaning you have to rip some generic drive out of an external case |
| [23:58:28] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [23:58:28] | k-man: | when one installed mythtv from scratch, does it set up the mysql tables to be innodb? |
| [23:58:55] | sphery: | k-man: if you're using mythtv 0.24-fixes to create the database and you use MySQL 5.5, MySQL 5.5 will |
| [23:59:19] | sphery: | if you use mythtv 0.25beta (which I would recommend at this point if you're just starting a database), it properly specifies the expected engine (MyISAM) |
| [23:59:21] | k-man: | sphery, is that a default setting in mysql or something mythtv sets? |
| [23:59:23] | wagnerrp: | amazon has one for $110 after shipping, through one of their partners |
| [23:59:28] | sphery: | mysql default |
| [23:59:45] | sphery: | and mythtv never specified engine, though we always assumed users would use myisam, since that was the old mysql default |
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