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| [00:12:28] | k-man: | is there any way for the schedule grabbers (like tv_grab_au) to return a TVDB id of a show to mythtv? (or in fact would that be of any use if it could?) |
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| [00:42:49] | ** wagnerrp wonders what "certain CI requirements" is referring to ** | |
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| [01:03:33] | sphery: | wagnerrp: on list? |
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| [01:03:58] | sphery: | ah, yeah, I see it |
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| [01:05:01] | sphery: | wagnerrp: that phrase's appearing in the thread "[mythtv-users] Does .25 player support MP4 format and AAC Audio format?" makes me suspect it means exactly what you think it means |
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| [01:06:17] | wagnerrp: | he rips content for use on a PS3? |
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| [01:10:27] | wagnerrp: | mp4, you dont really see unless someone made it themselves (or from a hardware recorder) |
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| [01:10:57] | wagnerrp: | mkv, its common enough you cant make any judgments unless someone gives a filename with certain crap in it |
| [01:11:16] | wagnerrp: | but having to make certain changes for CI |
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| [01:11:51] | wagnerrp: | if there were anything wrong with our support of CI, submit a ticket, and let it rot on trac... :) |
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| [03:19:47] | Slappy: | What would the proper userjob command be to export a video to mythvideo using mythvidexport.py ? I tried mythvidexport.py %JOBID% but got this error: Error: Time data ......................does not match format.................. |
| [03:20:51] | wagnerrp: | could i get a full traceback? |
| [03:21:19] | Slappy: | I have logging turned off on the backend hang on |
| [03:21:26] | wagnerrp: | no, whatever that jobid is |
| [03:21:33] | wagnerrp: | just run 'mythvidexport.py <id>' |
| [03:21:37] | wagnerrp: | from the terminal |
| [03:21:51] | Slappy: | how do I know what the jobid is? |
| [03:22:13] | wagnerrp: | well.. heh... it would have been printed out in the backend logs |
| [03:22:20] | Slappy: | that makes sense haha |
| [03:22:39] | wagnerrp: | select * from jobqueue where status=304; |
| [03:25:53] | Slappy: | The error stated: time data '2012-03–06 20:18:08 UTC' does not match format a%, d% b% %Y %H:%M:%S %Z |
| [03:26:50] | wagnerrp: | right, but thats just the last error |
| [03:27:00] | Slappy: | ah ok |
| [03:27:08] | wagnerrp: | i have no idea where that might be happening without a full traceback to the line that caused that error |
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| [05:01:02] | [R]: | wagnerrp: its got a "larger" bitrate, eh? |
| [05:04:20] | wagnerrp: | yeah, it needs a fatter data pipe to force it through |
| [05:04:44] | [R]: | ROFL |
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| [05:40:10] | xris: | NOTICE: small downtime on mythtv.org stuff while the VM moves hardware at Rackspace. |
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| [05:51:05] | wagnerrp: | "how can i tell what bitrate a recording is at"... sheesh, people these days |
| [05:51:29] | wagnerrp: | thats like kindergarten stuff |
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| [08:03:30] | pheld: | testing 0.25-beta, channel scanner/editor is failing on certain multiplexes. The scanner reports X possible channels found and stops there. Any further action (stop scan, cancel, back) leaves the UI non-responsive. Manual scan of a single multiplex works for most multiplexes. Using DVB-S2. |
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| [08:07:01] | pheld: | logging with chanscan doesn't reveal anything obvious wrt the data obtained from the scan, but which loglevel is able to reveal why setup becomes unresponsive? |
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| [08:18:46] | kenni: | pheld: The best way to figure it out, is to compile a debug build, run it under GDB and press Ctrl+C when the setup becomes unresponsive. Attach the output to a bug report together with the chanscan verbose logging. |
| [08:19:43] | kenni: | pheld: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/TicketHowTo & http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.2 & http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
| [08:20:26] | pheld: | always running a debug build. I'll do. Was just thinking that certain debug-logging might be of further help |
| [08:22:33] | kenni: | I think chanscan is the only one relevant there, but I might be wrong :) |
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| [10:25:31] | xavierh: | I have two Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 900H, one is 2040:6600 (working), the other is 2040:b138 (No driver for it). I was thinking buying an Nova-T instead. Is there different version for it wich could cause problem, or is it very well supported ? |
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| [11:47:23] | k-man: | is the audio sync adjustment supposed to stick? because every time i watch a recording i have to set it again |
| [11:47:27] | k-man: | in .24 fixes |
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| [16:21:09] | pplmaker: | does anyone know what "5.86 GT/s QPI" (in the context of intel CPUs) means? |
| [16:21:35] | wagnerrp: | 5.86 billion transfers per second |
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| [16:22:11] | pplmaker: | transfers of what? data from CPU -> RAM? |
| [16:22:37] | wagnerrp: | no, RAM gets an independent memory controller |
| [16:22:48] | wagnerrp: | 5.86? thats a rather odd number |
| [16:23:24] | pplmaker: | I see options for either 5.86 or 6.40 |
| [16:23:34] | wagnerrp: | maybe 5.6 or 6.4? |
| [16:23:53] | wagnerrp: | meaning double-pumped 2.8GHz or 3.2GHz clock |
| [16:24:17] | pplmaker: | I see it here: http://tinyurl.com/7dpgaud |
| [16:24:59] | pplmaker: | CPU's that have that spec seem to not have hyperthreading listed |
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| [16:25:23] | wagnerrp: | 5.86... intel confirms it |
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| [16:25:30] | wagnerrp: | well thats queer |
| [16:26:00] | wagnerrp: | no, its running a 2.93GHz clock |
| [16:26:12] | wagnerrp: | 22x133MHz |
| [16:27:49] | pplmaker: | i'm lost |
| [16:28:00] | pplmaker: | thank you for looking at it though |
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| [16:28:16] | wagnerrp: | you know what hypertransport is? |
| [16:28:18] | director9: | evening all |
| [16:28:54] | wagnerrp: | pplmaker: ^^^ |
| [16:29:42] | pplmaker: | no |
| [16:29:55] | pplmaker: | i thought HT meant hyperthreading |
| [16:29:59] | director9: | i'm completely new to mythtv, but facing the crossover to digital tv i'm looking around for possibilities, and mythtv came up as one |
| [16:30:28] | wagnerrp: | hyperthreading is just intel's name for what everyone else calls SMT (symmetric multithreading) |
| [16:31:06] | wagnerrp: | hypertransport is AMD's current front-side-bus architecture, created for the original AMD64 systems 9yrs ago |
| [16:31:36] | wagnerrp: | its a very narrow, high clock rate bus |
| [16:32:01] | wagnerrp: | up to 32-bits wide, and from 800MHz in its original configuration, to 3.2GHz currently |
| [16:32:11] | jpabq: | 1 |
| [16:32:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | 2 |
| [16:32:36] | jpabq: | Just ignore me. |
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| [16:32:57] | ** J-e-f-f-A laughs. ;-) ** | |
| [16:33:02] | pplmaker: | okay so whats the intel equivalent? |
| [16:33:03] | wagnerrp: | since its DDR communication, it communicates twice per cycle, making 1.6–6.4 billion data transfers per second, typically at 16-bits wide |
| [16:33:21] | wagnerrp: | for a nominal 25.6GB/s throughput in the current implementation |
| [16:34:39] | wagnerrp: | when Intel re-engineered their Core2 architecture into Nehalem, they took the same route |
| [16:34:43] | wagnerrp: | and called it QPI |
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| [16:35:51] | wagnerrp: | the original systems ran 2.4GHz, the current top end systems run 3.2GHz |
| [16:36:03] | wagnerrp: | again, double pumped, and again, typically 16-bits wide |
| [16:36:27] | wagnerrp: | so, its hypertransport by another name |
| [16:36:46] | pplmaker: | so the processors on that page that do not list QPI are not nehalem? |
| [16:37:31] | wagnerrp: | i didnt say that |
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| [16:37:58] | pplmaker: | oh okay |
| [16:37:59] | wagnerrp: | technically, theyre likely an updated core under a different name |
| [16:38:14] | wagnerrp: | but theyre still the same basic nehalem architecture |
| [16:38:39] | wagnerrp: | since they all run with a base 133MHz clock generator |
| [16:39:26] | wagnerrp: | the older 4.8GT/s units run a 18x multiplier on the QPI bus, the 5.86GT/s run a 22x multiplier, and the 6.4GT/s run a 24x multiplier |
| [16:39:34] | wagnerrp: | thats what i meant by 133x22 |
| [16:39:58] | wagnerrp: | director9: see http://mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview |
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| [16:43:28] | pplmaker: | okay so.. QPI > non QPI? |
| [16:43:56] | wagnerrp: | QPI is the new serial point-to-point communications architecture in nehalem |
| [16:44:12] | wagnerrp: | very similar to hypertransport implemented by AMD in 2003 |
| [16:45:03] | wagnerrp: | replacing the old parallel FSB interconnects, that would link to a northbridge, with a communications fabric for access to hardware, and a memory controller |
| [16:45:46] | wagnerrp: | HT/QPI were implemented as much simpler buses, for use communicating with a much simpler south bridge, as the memory controller was moved out of the north bridge and into the CPU |
| [16:47:13] | pplmaker: | okay i guess thats a silly question – i looked at the specs for those "non QPI" cpus and they all have it listed, in varying speeds of 4.8 through 6.4 |
| [16:49:10] | wagnerrp: | the real server/workstation chips all use QPI to connect to a large southbridge |
| [16:49:26] | wagnerrp: | the more consumer oriented ones use something called DMI |
| [16:49:42] | wagnerrp: | which is just QPI with some added features thrown in such as integrated PCIe links |
| [16:49:58] | wagnerrp: | as it is supposed to allow the use of a smaller, cheaper southbridge |
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| [18:12:02] | director9: | thx wagnerrp |
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| [18:54:34] | ikrabbe: | Hi, does anyone else have screen size problems ? I run two screens, one HDMI, one laptop screen |
| [18:54:51] | wagnerrp: | ikrabbe: basically, mythtv is designed to be run in full-screen, on a TV |
| [18:54:53] | ikrabbe: | when keep my old configuration I get a wide menu, displayed halve |
| [18:55:01] | ikrabbe: | wagnerrp: I know |
| [18:55:15] | ikrabbe: | I get a slim video picture |
| [18:55:16] | wagnerrp: | if you're using xinerama, there are options that can tell mythtv to figure out what the extents of a single screen are, and use those |
| [18:55:27] | wagnerrp: | but theres nothing that can be done with randr |
| [18:55:53] | ikrabbe: | hmm I have randr |
| [18:56:05] | ikrabbe: | and I use this configuration for some time now |
| [18:56:10] | wagnerrp: | which means with randr, youre just stuck manually defining the extents of the screen |
| [18:56:34] | wagnerrp: | you can do that with an override on the command line... --geometry XxY[+H+V] |
| [18:56:38] | ikrabbe: | when I manually define the screen extents the video is compressed horizontally |
| [18:56:49] | ikrabbe: | yes I know all options |
| [18:56:54] | ikrabbe: | but none fit |
| [18:57:05] | ikrabbe: | I mean I can record and view with vlc |
| [18:57:09] | wagnerrp: | did you manually set a video scaler in your playback options somewhere? |
| [18:57:16] | ikrabbe: | no |
| [18:57:36] | ikrabbe: | no scaling, no auto detection, just keep it as it is |
| [18:58:03] | wagnerrp: | then its probably doing something fancy based off the screen size the X server is telling it |
| [18:58:27] | wagnerrp: | im not sure off hand how to resolve that |
| [18:58:40] | wagnerrp: | use 'w', and cycle through the various zoom modes, see if one of them looks normal |
| [18:59:21] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: IIRC, you have a TV with non-square pixels and use that automatic resizing stuff |
| [19:00:55] | ikrabbe: | thats basically the problem, there is no "normal" zoom mode |
| [19:01:17] | wagnerrp: | there should be an "Off" |
| [19:01:25] | ikrabbe: | yes |
| [19:01:30] | ikrabbe: | thats default |
| [19:01:51] | wagnerrp: | and "Off" does the fancy non-square-pixel resizing? |
| [19:01:56] | ikrabbe: | the video scales towards the -geometry setting |
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| [19:02:16] | ikrabbe: | or thats what it looks like |
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| [19:03:25] | ikrabbe: | hmm, I will watch tv with vlc for now, tomorrow i will find a solution I think |
| [19:03:43] | wagnerrp: | just stay idle in the channel for a while |
| [19:03:50] | ikrabbe: | but I have this issue for some time now |
| [19:03:53] | wagnerrp: | someone may respond who knows about that subsystem |
| [19:03:58] | ikrabbe: | yes of course I will stay in the channel |
| [19:05:24] | ikrabbe: | most times my problem is, that I have a very uncommon setup, though it used to work for a while now |
| [19:05:45] | ikrabbe: | I use a nouveau driver on that laptop with randr managed screens, and a ratpoison window manager |
| [19:05:55] | ikrabbe: | not the thing many people use |
| [19:06:13] | wagnerrp: | try using the nvidia drivers instead? |
| [19:06:26] | wagnerrp: | window manager shouldnt matter |
| [19:06:27] | ikrabbe: | that's no option |
| [19:06:38] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is keying off what the X server is telling it |
| [19:06:55] | ikrabbe: | yes, it should obey to one screen only though |
| [19:07:00] | ikrabbe: | not to both combined |
| [19:07:02] | wagnerrp: | but since you have two screens with two different PAR |
| [19:07:11] | wagnerrp: | the X server is just telling it the average of the two |
| [19:07:18] | wagnerrp: | and mythtv is blindly obeying it |
| [19:07:27] | ikrabbe: | no |
| [19:07:34] | ikrabbe: | its telling the sum of both |
| [19:07:44] | ikrabbe: | as I laid them out that way (for work situations) |
| [19:08:14] | wagnerrp: | with xinerama, rather than randr, it may be able to be more intelligent about it |
| [19:08:31] | wagnerrp: | and i still dont understand why you must use the nouveau drivers |
| [19:09:12] | ikrabbe: | its because randr is better for screen positioning |
| [19:09:22] | ikrabbe: | but maybe I see the problem |
| [19:09:27] | ikrabbe: | I will care about that tomorrow |
| [19:09:33] | wagnerrp: | sure, it means you dont have to restart the X server to change the config |
| [19:09:34] | ikrabbe: | I'm just too tired now |
| [19:09:55] | wagnerrp: | but it also likely means mythtv doesnt have access to the individual screen information |
| [19:10:01] | wagnerrp: | or perhaps does, but doesnt know how to |
| [19:10:14] | wagnerrp: | in the latter case, this would be a potential new feature |
| [19:10:26] | wagnerrp: | considering randr has largely replaced xinerama |
| [19:10:30] | ikrabbe: | well xrandr gives me strange information currently |
| [19:10:38] | ikrabbe: | maybe thats the problem |
| [19:10:43] | ikrabbe: | I will try later |
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| [19:13:13] | ikrabbe: | ok, at least turning off one of the screen brings me back the old situation |
| [19:14:19] | director9: | mythtv seems to be a bit of work :) |
| [19:14:19] | ikrabbe: | hmm and enabling it again during playback leaves it fine :) |
| [19:14:28] | ikrabbe: | thats the power of randr |
| [19:14:59] | wagnerrp: | director9: more correctly, mythtv with strange configurations is a bit of work |
| [19:15:27] | ikrabbe: | true, actually I found mythtv is still the best tv app out there |
| [19:15:34] | wagnerrp: | with a "normal" setup, and hardware well supported in linux, one could get it up and running in several minutes |
| [19:16:06] | ikrabbe: | but what I most miss is a auto-resize feature of the video screen, when I tell the window to resize |
| [19:16:12] | director9: | i was thinking of a 'backend' and several frontends for the kids(frontends, i see you can buy them too, like the asrock one) |
| [19:16:24] | ikrabbe: | thats extremely usefull and impressing with tiling window managers |
| [19:16:59] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the current UI is not really designed to allow for dynamic resizing |
| [19:17:32] | director9: | but i'm not sure it'd fullfill my needs, especially since they are starting to lock down the smartcard |
| [19:17:57] | wagnerrp: | well... sort of |
| [19:18:20] | wagnerrp: | if you can get a smartcard and a CAM, mythtv can use it |
| [19:18:34] | wagnerrp: | the issue is that a lot of systems no longer make CAMs available |
| [19:18:42] | ikrabbe: | ah yes, alsa driver selection needs a bit more love too |
| [19:18:46] | wagnerrp: | and then CI+ is a DRM scheme, and completely unusable |
| [19:19:10] | wagnerrp: | device selection should be pretty easy in 0.24 and 0.25 |
| [19:19:21] | wagnerrp: | while driver selection is something thats left up to your distro to manage |
| [19:19:39] | ikrabbe: | yes, alsa knows about virtual devices |
| [19:19:50] | ikrabbe: | (and I configured some, through dmix) |
| [19:20:07] | ikrabbe: | but mythtv does card based selection |
| [19:20:15] | ikrabbe: | at least in 0.24 |
| [19:20:47] | director9: | been looking at a multiple STB for DVB-S, each room his own, but that'll cost quite a bit |
| [19:20:49] | ikrabbe: | that helps with multiple output sources |
| [19:22:39] | director9: | hence the search for a centralized system, but i'm not sure the wife wants to wait while i tinker away :) |
| [19:24:05] | wagnerrp: | should CI/CAM not be an option |
| [19:24:16] | wagnerrp: | you can always do analog capture from a box |
| [19:25:35] | director9: | in the backend the dvb-s2 cards are placed if I read correctly? |
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| [19:26:22] | wagnerrp: | yes, capture devices in the backend, playback in the frontend |
| [19:26:29] | wagnerrp: | which can be on the same or separate machines |
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| [19:45:26] | director9: | if another frontend asks for a channel from an already used transportstream, does it use the same card? |
| [19:45:54] | wagnerrp: | no, cards are not currently shared between multiple livetv sessions |
| [19:46:08] | wagnerrp: | erm, scratch that |
| [19:46:38] | wagnerrp: | you can use 'virtual tuners', and record multiple things from a single multiplex/transport using a single tuner |
| [19:46:50] | wagnerrp: | however there are some usability complications when that is done with livetv |
| [19:46:58] | director9: | ah, ok |
| [19:57:57] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, I don't use auto resizing. I do have a 1024x768 16:9 plasma though. I normally just use the menu to change the mode if we have to. not using new enough code to enjoy the auto resize. |
| [19:58:26] | wagnerrp: | heh, such fancy things werent yet in mythtv by 0.21? :P |
| [19:59:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | evidently not. I do boot my living room FE into master sometimes talking to my dev system. I have a script to keep recording data in sync from production to dev. |
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| [20:33:07] | doda_: | hi folks |
| [20:33:37] | doda_: | what might be the issue with mythtv-setup not leting me enter a path to channels.conf file ? |
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| [20:35:09] | Yammeh: | Hi, I don't suppose you guys can provide help with MythBuntu and being able to install my DVB-S2 card? |
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| [20:37:16] | Yammeh: | Sorry, just realised this was for MythTv, not mythbuntu |
| [20:38:11] | wagnerrp: | same thing as far as tuner setup is concerned |
| [20:38:31] | wagnerrp: | mythbuntu doesnt have any special mechanisms for that |
| [20:38:55] | Yammeh: | I see |
| [20:39:16] | Yammeh: | I guess this isn't really a Myth support issue, it's more an issue that I can't install the firmware for my card |
| [20:39:31] | wagnerrp: | that would be ubuntu and/or linuxtv |
| [20:41:25] | Yammeh: | Don't suppose you know if linuxtv have an IRC channel/server? |
| [20:41:35] | wagnerrp: | i would try #linuxtv |
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| [20:42:00] | Yammeh: | That would be it, thanks |
| [20:48:37] | CyberKnet: | Hmmm... Google Reader is empty |
| [20:48:42] | CyberKnet: | what a dreadful feeling. |
| [20:48:56] | CyberKnet: | time to go read spam I suppose. |
| [20:49:31] | doda_: | CyberKnet: i know that feeling lol :D |
| [20:49:35] | doda_: | try cracked.com |
| [20:50:09] | CyberKnet: | sfw? |
| [20:50:32] | CyberKnet: | Oooh right, I'm supposed to be working! |
| [20:50:34] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [20:52:01] | kisak: | it's more fun to read mythtv's commit log than spam |
| [20:54:09] | doda_: | btw, i have entered all my channels in tv-viewer manually, and now i have a file that looks like this. http://ompldr.org/vY3pocA/channels.conf |
| [20:54:28] | doda_: | any way to import it in mythtv? |
| [20:57:56] | wagnerrp: | mythtv cannot properly import channels.conf files |
| [20:58:05] | wagnerrp: | better to rescan internally |
| [20:58:46] | doda_: | i can't :D |
| [20:59:09] | doda_: | it doesn't work on my cable, i get a bunch of random channels |
| [21:02:18] | doda_: | i get a failed to add new channels error |
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| [21:04:33] | pyrodex: | hey wagnerrp looks like the commit 23f3e6ff07fc80d4c4f95729c3f782707a326eb7 isn't working right. I can't bind to any IP's now for mythbackend |
| [21:04:45] | wagnerrp: | yeah, im looking at it |
| [21:04:55] | pyrodex: | Ok, reverted back but wanted to report it. |
| [21:05:04] | wagnerrp: | works on my end, seems to be causing problems for others |
| [21:05:28] | wagnerrp: | im guessing anyone on a system that doesnt have 'bindv6only' or similar sysctl enabled |
| [21:05:32] | pyrodex: | I don't have an IPV6 IP defined but ubuntu seems to give one by default. |
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| [21:06:11] | pyrodex: | mine is set to 0. |
| [21:06:16] | pyrodex: | net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0 |
| [21:07:04] | wagnerrp: | i made it just blindly listen to all ipv4 and ipv6 addresses on the system |
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| [21:07:16] | wagnerrp: | but it seems that if bindv6only == 0 |
| [21:07:31] | wagnerrp: | the system automatically listens on all ipv6 addresses when you tell it to listen to the ipv4 ones |
| [21:07:43] | wagnerrp: | so listening a second time is redundant, and it complains |
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| [21:07:58] | wagnerrp: | ipv6... what a clusterfu-- |
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| [21:08:52] | wagnerrp: | ipv6 is fine on its own |
| [21:09:03] | wagnerrp: | ipv4 is fine on its own... until we run out of addresses |
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| [21:09:26] | wagnerrp: | but its this half-assed migration between the two |
| [21:09:33] | wagnerrp: | with all sorts of screwy behavior |
| [21:09:51] | CyberKnet: | I'm all for ditching four |
| [21:10:03] | CyberKnet: | if everyone else does ;) |
| [21:10:04] | CyberKnet: | heh |
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| [21:11:15] | pyrodex: | gah now my git won't revert to a previous commit |
| [21:11:33] | pyrodex: | how do I revert to 177fdbb5ab0159edb9f58c928075b3f32fb30520 via git? |
| [21:11:49] | wagnerrp: | checkout |
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| [21:17:37] | pyrodex: | ok its working. BBL have to get the wife. |
| [21:18:05] | wizbit: | pyrodex: shes here, ill send her in a cab |
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| [21:44:03] | yianni: | Hi, everybody. Can someone help me with a mythweb problem? In manual recordings, the channel list is empty. I raised it in the users list but got no response. |
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| [22:06:27] | sphery: | yianni: my dev box DB is currently broken, but if you give me another 30min or so, I should be able to test on my system |
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| [22:13:17] | yianni: | sphery: Thanks, I'll be here. |
| [22:13:38] | yianni: | Good luck. |
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| [22:15:42] | sphery: | hehe, well it's broken on purpose (doing testing), but thanks :) |
| [22:16:54] | wagnerrp: | yianni: you did? what was the topic? |
| [22:17:42] | sphery: | [mythtv-users] Mythweb channel list appears empty when creating manual recording |
| [22:18:06] | justinh: | and how is it in mythfrontend? |
| [22:18:16] | wagnerrp: | oh, you responded to yourself |
| [22:18:30] | wagnerrp: | no wonder i couldnt find anything related with no reponse |
| [22:18:46] | wagnerrp: | works fine here |
| [22:18:55] | justinh: | bumping. lol. on a mailing list |
| [22:20:57] | yianni: | The channels are available everywhere else. |
| [22:21:30] | yianni: | I can record, watch tv ok, just the mythweb manual recording shows an empty channel list. |
| [22:21:38] | yianni: | Other lists are ok, too. |
| [22:21:53] | justinh: | btw folks, ubuntu stirred my ire once too many times today. having installed 11.10 on my work desktop & rid it of the unity junk I set it to autologin. Next reboot, X wouldn't start. So I installed Mint instead. No more ubuntu junk. The other annoying thing was that for some weird quirk my user wasn't in the cdrom group so I couldn't burn a CD :-\ |
| [22:22:42] | yianni: | justinh: did I use a wrong word or method? |
| [22:23:05] | justinh: | oh, and don't use clonezilla to backup a HDD, unless you don't mind it making a corrupt partition table |
| [22:23:37] | justinh: | yianni: maybe you should try renaming or wiping the mythweb dir & redoing the make install |
| [22:24:46] | yianni: | justinh: No make install, I just copied every folder from the git of mythweb to /srv/www/htdocs, created the links to video folders, etc. |
| [22:24:52] | justinh: | if the channels appear correctly elsewhere, then I suspect there's only one place there's a problem |
| [22:25:08] | justinh: | oh yeah. been a while since I reinstalled mythweb |
| [22:25:15] | yianni: | Me too. |
| [22:25:36] | justinh: | unless the channels for some reason are set to invisible |
| [22:25:45] | justinh: | they'd appear in some places but not others |
| [22:26:09] | sphery: | yianni: hmmm... I see a list of channels in my MythWeb, when I click Manual (next to Recording Schedules) |
| [22:26:10] | yianni: | No, I can record from them ok, live tv is ok too. |
| [22:26:13] | sphery: | anything special I need to do? |
| [22:26:21] | justinh: | or some other kink like favourites or groups.. I'm not up to speed with master |
| [22:27:04] | justinh: | check it out again, re-do it, for starters maybe |
| [22:27:19] | yianni: | Nothing. I select the "Manual" link, and the ch. list is just one line, dim. |
| [22:27:31] | sphery: | yianni: In MythWeb setup, under TV|My Session, do you have, "Only display favorite channels" checked? |
| [22:28:46] | yianni: | No, it's clear. But I've never visited this page before. |
| [22:30:11] | yianni: | Next to My Session, the Channel Info tab is also empty. Only the headlines are there. |
| [22:30:21] | yianni: | "Delete, sourceid, etc" |
| [22:30:56] | yianni: | Can I reset mythweb somehow? |
| [22:31:39] | wagnerrp: | sphery: since when did seeking back one frame in the cutlist editor drop back a whole keyframe? |
| [22:32:14] | sphery: | yianni: let's try: mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg -e 'truncate table mythweb_sessions;' |
| [22:33:16] | sphery: | wagnerrp: sounds like it may be related to fixes from: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10389 ? |
| [22:33:36] | sphery: | wagnerrp: this is when nav mode is set to frame? |
| [22:34:03] | wagnerrp: | one frame only |
| [22:34:17] | yianni: | It didn't work. |
| [22:34:20] | sphery: | weird |
| [22:34:24] | sphery: | and weird |
| [22:34:31] | yianni: | lol |
| [22:36:18] | sphery: | yianni: new theory... you don't have the php bindings properly installed and/or are getting conflicts from a broken mythweb that still has them in it? |
| [22:36:51] | sphery: | they're now installed by mythtv install and you need right-versioned mythweb to go along with them |
| [22:37:02] | sphery: | (now = master and will be in 0.25) |
| [22:37:33] | yianni: | The script I use to update mythtv also updates mythweb. |
| [22:37:42] | wagnerrp: | i really need to stop running transcodes as im editing the cutlists |
| [22:38:23] | yianni: | mythweb is at 21197fc0651 |
| [22:38:36] | sphery: | yianni: do you just clone mythweb into your web server documents dir or do you copy it to there? |
| [22:38:55] | yianni: | cp -dpR |
| [22:39:12] | sphery: | try blowing away the entire mythweb directory, then copying the current checkout back |
| [22:39:32] | yianni: | But I rename each existing folder to .old first |
| [22:39:48] | yianni: | Will do. |
| [22:40:00] | sphery: | ok, then in your configure output, do you have: bindings_php yes |
| [22:41:19] | yianni: | Yes. |
| [22:41:32] | wagnerrp: | and is that on the machine that runs mythweb? |
| [22:41:56] | yianni: | Yes, on opensuse 12.1 |
| [22:42:03] | sphery: | hehe, yeah, I guess this change does mean you have to actually install mythtv on your mythweb host |
| [22:42:05] | yianni: | The new and improved... |
| [22:42:31] | wagnerrp: | sphery: not completely |
| [22:42:38] | sphery: | (fortunately, it's not hard to run apache on the master backend, anyway) |
| [22:42:52] | wagnerrp: | you can get away with just a config.mak, and cd bindings/php; make install |
| [22:43:08] | sphery: | well, you have to jump through some hoops/know our configure to do otherwise |
| [22:43:18] | wagnerrp: | or just shove the things into $PREFIX/share/mythtv yourself |
| [22:43:24] | wagnerrp: | well ok |
| [22:43:30] | yianni: | it's an Intel Q9400, @ 2.66GHz, |
| [22:43:36] | wagnerrp: | or, ive got a ebuild configured for that purpose |
| [22:44:00] | wagnerrp: | a 100MB tarball for a few dozen KB of scripts |
| [22:44:02] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [22:44:23] | sphery: | hehe |
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| [22:56:31] | justinh: | oo, I like this touchpad. multitouch & gestures are supported :-) |
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| [23:00:56] | yianni: | Initial results are not optimistic. I'll keep retrying with the permissions and all the installation steps from the beginning. |
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| [23:04:04] | russk: | mythfrontend plays in slow-motion for me ... used to be OK ... recordings are fine ... did I mess up some setting or something ? machine otherwise behaves ok |
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| [23:06:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | russk: Sounds like you (or someone else) set a default 'time stretch' value to .5 or something... |
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| [23:07:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | russk: To change it during playback, hit the 'menu' button ("M"), then Video -> Timestretch [IIRC] — I think there's an equivalent 'global' default somewhere too. ;-) |
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| [23:09:38] | sphery: | justinh: Well, it does for now--at least until Apple sues everyone. They now own multitouch (US patent was granted on Feb 29 that basically covers all existing implementations of multitouch). |
| [23:09:49] | russk: | time stretch is set to 1.0X |
| [23:10:03] | sphery: | granted, an EOL'ed TouchPad may not be required to be updated to not violate those patents... |
| [23:10:50] | russk: | J-e-f-f-A: one thing I think I did play with was VDPAU |
| [23:11:04] | sphery: | russk: mythfrontend Utilities/Setup|Setup|TV Settings, 3rd screen, what's your Playback Profile Group? If it's CPU anything, you need to change it. Probably to Slim or, if you have a VDPAU-compatible nvidia video card and nvidia proprietary drivers, then a VDPAU profile (like VDPAU Slim) |
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| [23:12:17] | russk: | ah sphery, I will try to get to that ... at the moment it's a black screen which is another symptom after I hit ESC during playback |
| [23:13:00] | sphery: | sounds like you're using an OpenGL video renderer? |
| [23:13:08] | sphery: | if so, it has, er, issues |
| [23:13:36] | sphery: | (OpenGL theme painter is fine, but OpenGL video renderer is high-resource and prone to failure) |
| [23:13:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | I've got to run, but it looks like you're in good hands. ;-) |
| [23:13:44] | sphery: | with Allsate |
| [23:13:48] | sphery: | er, Allstate |
| [23:13:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | hehehe ;-) |
| [23:16:34] | russk: | can't find OpenGL video renderer ... any clue where to find that setting ? |
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| [23:20:13] | Yammeh: | Is there an easy way to scan for channels without having to manually type in the frequency over and over in mythbuntu? |
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| [23:35:20] | russell5: | nit sure but you scan for channels in mythtv-setup |
| [23:36:20] | Yammeh: | Only by passing in the frequency though, right? |
| [23:37:08] | russell5: | not sure. i remeber doing it i just had to choose qam |
| [23:37:15] | russell5: | havent don eit in a hiwle |
| [23:37:18] | russell5: | while^ |
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| [23:38:50] | ertyu-m: | just hit scan |
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| [23:49:04] | sphery: | russk: if you change the playback profile group, as I mentioned (and you hadn't edited profiles within those groups), you will be switching away from the OpenGL video renderer |
| [23:49:34] | sphery: | russk: i.e. 03.09 18:11:04 <+sphery> russk: mythfrontend Utilities/Setup|Setup|TV Settings, 3rd screen, what's your Playback Profile Group? If it's CPU anything, you need to change it. Probably to Slim or, if you have a VDPAU-compatible nvidia video card and nvidia proprietary drivers, then a VDPAU profile (like VDPAU Slim) |
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| [23:56:45] | russk: | sphery thanks i seem to have it working after switching back to a VDPAU profile |
| [23:57:03] | sphery: | cool |
| [23:57:12] | sphery: | and, yeah, if you can use it, you should use VDPAU |
| [23:57:30] | russk: | not sure i why i messed with it since it wasn't broken :-) |
| [23:57:46] | sphery: | only people using a less-than-ideal choice of video card for MythTV or refusing to use proprietary drivers have to be stuck with bad video rendering |
| [23:58:07] | sphery: | russk: what was yours set at before you changed it to VDPAU |
| [23:58:31] | russk: | it was set to Normal |
| [23:58:38] | sphery: | did you just upgrade to 0.25beta or something? |
| [23:59:17] | russk: | i'm on 0.24.1_p20110524 on gentoo |
| [23:59:18] | sphery: | we removed some broken playback profile groups for 0.25beta and that means that users who had selected them (CPU+, CPU++, or CPU--) would have been changed to Normal |
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| [23:59:24] | sphery: | ah, ok |
| [23:59:28] | sphery: | not sure how it changed, then... |
| [23:59:48] | sphery: | anyway, you're better off with VDPAU if using sufficiently-new nvidia card and drivers |
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