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| [02:29:47] | skd5aner: | heh – the guy from the US who wants a 24/7 news stream internet feed has gotten responses for solutions for the UK and Austratlia, and RT (Russian Times)... gotta love the internet |
| [02:30:06] | [R]: | 24/7 news sounds so boring |
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| [02:31:44] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: can you recover any of the really old fm support that used to be around? |
| [02:32:27] | skd5aner: | [R]: I guess it depends on the network and the story... I mean, a 24/7 victoria secret news network might not be too shabby |
| [02:33:02] | skd5aner: | [R]: also, joking aside, it would be nice to have something you could easily pull up if you only had OTA networks and wanted to pull up news at any given time via MythTV |
| [02:33:50] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I think the streaming stuff in mythmusic has no UI, it's just staged, and might have been based on eskil's old shoutcast code |
| [02:34:05] | skd5aner: | and wagnerrp too ^ |
| [02:34:39] | jya: | for the TV icon in LiveTV, shouldn't it try to retrieve those over myth:// protocol? on my mac, they don't show and in the log I have: MythUIHelper: LoadScaleImage(/home/mythtv/.shepherd/icons/frogman_blue_7TWO)Unable to find image file |
| [02:34:53] | jya: | this is the path off the file on the backend |
| [02:35:12] | wagnerrp: | there never was any old fm support that used to be around |
| [02:35:15] | skd5aner: | jya: I could be wrong, but I don't think that was switched over to storage groups... channel icons still rely on a reachable path |
| [02:35:48] | jya: | i see… that's unfortunate... |
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| [02:35:55] | wagnerrp: | mythfm was a crude hack of a plugin, based around an external utility that would play radio using the hauppauge 250 and 350 tuner cards |
| [02:36:26] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: yea, that's what I was referring too |
| [02:37:38] | wagnerrp: | someone with a bit of knowledge of the UI and plugin APIs could rewrite it from scratch over a short weekend |
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| [02:38:26] | skd5aner: | jya: I was wrong, it was added this dev cycle – https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/caee2ba |
| [02:38:41] | skd5aner: | that said, I don't know if it was fully implemented |
| [02:39:13] | jya: | well, something is amiss then… I wonder if it's my change to the tv_play.cpp that retrieve the path that broke it |
| [02:39:43] | [R]: | skd5aner: i woudlnt even watch the 1 hour/day news... defintely woudn't watch 24 hour/day news |
| [02:40:11] | jya: | ah.. looking at that change, does that mean a ChannelIcons storage group has to exist? |
| [02:40:14] | skd5aner: | not sure the point is to watch it 24/7 – just have a network where you could catch the news anytime you chose to do so, in real time |
| [02:40:22] | skd5aner: | [R]: ^ |
| [02:40:44] | jya: | [R]: I like having the news channel running in the background |
| [02:40:58] | skd5aner: | me too, during the work day |
| [02:41:06] | [R]: | im one of those dang kids that doestn care about news |
| [02:41:09] | [R]: | :P |
| [02:41:16] | skd5aner: | rebelrouser! |
| [02:41:35] | skd5aner: | [R]ebel[R]ouser |
| [02:41:40] | jya: | especially if the anchor woman looks like that: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=melissa+the . . . amp;bih=1075 |
| [02:41:41] | skd5aner: | ;) |
| [02:42:14] | skd5aner: | heh... does she work for a Rupert Murdoch network? |
| [02:42:17] | [R]: | jya: yeah, i'd do her |
| [02:42:41] | skd5aner: | he has a thing for blonde anchors under 30 |
| [02:42:51] | jya: | not even… French journalist.. she was voted hottest new girl in the last Australia GQ |
| [02:42:59] | Seeker`: | jya: skd5aner: it is something that was being discussed today by the devs. They are aware of the problem and are looking at fixing it. I'm not sure whether they decided 0.25 or 0.26 though |
| [02:43:17] | skd5aner: | Seeker`: easy – 0.25, all the had to do was ask me |
| [02:43:29] | jya: | Seeker`: so not point raising a bug then? |
| [02:43:30] | skd5aner: | so let it be written, so let it be done |
| [02:43:43] | Seeker`: | skd5aner: :P |
| [02:44:03] | Seeker`: | jya: I'd say no, as they know how to fix it and are aware of the problem |
| [02:44:18] | skd5aner: | jya: I still am a firm beliver in filing a ticket anyway... I can't count the times where a bug discussion has come up and a dev says "oh yea" and then it never goes anywhere – at least with a ticket there's a tiny bit of accountability/reminder, etc |
| [02:44:22] | Seeker`: | I think its just a question of whether it should be added during a feature freeze |
| [02:44:52] | jya: | Seeker`: I would consider the missing icon in LiveTV a definite blocker :) |
| [02:45:11] | skd5aner: | I mean, the fact that Danielk was asking all the questions he was about being locked into a mux in livetv with multirec is a great example since he has been involved in dozens of conversations of the last 4 years about it – but still acted surprised about it when he was recently troubleshooting it |
| [02:45:29] | Seeker`: | jya: well, it isn't techinically a bug, because if you place the file in a directory on the local machine, they work |
| [02:46:00] | skd5aner: | Seeker`: if it doesn't work as intended, and SG's are now supposed to support channel icons, it's a bug (regardless if there's a workaround / legacy solution) |
| [02:46:03] | jya: | skd5aner: I made sure he had all the info for it to get fixed though… I wasn't going to let this one pass :) |
| [02:46:23] | Seeker`: | skd5aner: channel icons over storage groups for livetv hasn't been implemented yet |
| [02:46:47] | Seeker`: | its one of the things on the "to be converted" list |
| [02:46:59] | skd5aner: | I told him I'd give him all the info he could want on multiple occasions – either way, I'm just happy now so I don't want to sound like I'm whining about the past |
| [02:47:36] | Seeker`: | I think the channelicons storage group was put in for something else, but it isn't actually used by anything at the moment |
| [02:47:36] | jya: | there you go: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10404 |
| [02:47:38] | skd5aner: | Seeker`: how's your theme coming along? Plan to have it ready by release? |
| [02:47:51] | Seeker`: | skd5aner: been kinda distraced by other stuff :( |
| [02:48:09] | skd5aner: | jya: cool – if nothing else, it's a tracking ticket and an opportunity for someone to put a notch in their "closed a ticket" belt :D |
| [02:48:20] | skd5aner: | Seeker`: totally understand dude... my life is upside down right now too |
| [02:48:38] | Seeker`: | I'm not good enough at theme implementation to produce something that looks really nice either |
| [02:48:39] | ** jya waiting for a "request without a patch" resolution ** | |
| [02:49:41] | skd5aner: | Seeker`: I can't remember the exact quote from Mark Zuckerberg, but it goes something like "released is better than perfect" |
| [02:50:08] | skd5aner: | Seeker`: think "incremental" improvements – get it to a place you're geneally happy, then iterate like crazy – the download manager will make that really easy for folks to get your updates |
| [02:50:24] | Seeker`: | skd5aner: I likely won't be able to get it in to a state where I'm happy to mark it as 'suitable for general consumption' |
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| [02:50:50] | skd5aner: | maybe not by release :) |
| [02:51:01] | Seeker`: | the OSD and videos are sorta getting there, but I haven't touched much else |
| [02:51:17] | ** Seeker` started writing a path tracer last week, has lost all of his time to that ** | |
| [02:52:51] | Seeker`: | its vaguely work related, but I'll never be given the time to do it at work, but its something I really want to do |
| [02:53:11] | skd5aner: | wouldn't we all like that |
| [02:53:34] | ** skd5aner wishes he could get paid for his hobbies ** | |
| [02:54:57] | skd5aner: | off to spend some time away from my desk, g'night |
| [02:55:02] | ertyu-m: | they stop being hobbies then and you stop enjoying them |
| [02:55:08] | Seeker`: | nn |
| [02:55:52] | Seeker`: | Its the point where its "we need this polished and releaseable" that it starts to suck. The "research this, see what you can get working" is the cool part |
| [02:56:10] | Seeker`: | http://cjo20.net/cornellpath2.png <- just about working |
| [02:59:46] | jya: | allright, made a copy of the output of configure for all platforms tested by buildbot |
| [02:59:55] | jya: | let see if the new one gives the same result |
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| [03:57:58] | mangus580: | does anyone here use mythdroid? |
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| [05:09:32] | kisak: | jya: are you around? |
| [05:09:43] | jya: | i am, but not for long |
| [05:09:56] | kisak: | it was suggested that I run something past you |
| [05:10:41] | kisak: | I run mythtv 0.25 on gentoo from 20120223, I perviously ran it from early january |
| [05:11:06] | kisak: | somewhere between the two, mythtv lost surround sound output to jack |
| [05:11:54] | kisak: | even though mythfrontend is set to 8 channel output, it outputs stereo |
| [05:12:51] | kisak: | if I go into the audio config section in mythfrontend and rescan audio devices, select jack up top, the only option I get below is stereo |
| [05:13:25] | kisak: | it currently reads "8" instead of "7.1" in hte lower field |
| [05:13:53] | kisak: | s/hte/the/ |
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| [05:15:41] | kisak: | jack output is clearly not broken, since it is still putting out stereo, it just forgot that you can do surround sound to jack |
| [05:17:46] | kisak: | the only commit I found that smells related is https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/c5b6e . . . 820f8a86a0cc |
| [05:18:10] | kisak: | but I could easily be wrong |
| [05:19:36] | kisak: | argh, scratch that those last two lines |
| [05:22:49] | kisak: | I know it's not exactly where you like to tinker, but it would be appreciated if you found anything |
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| [05:55:43] | skd5aner: | kisak: read the logs from several hours ago, jya posted a bunch of replies to your already |
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| [05:56:14] | skd5aner: | s/your/you |
| [05:56:51] | jya: | kisak: that commit has nothing to do with your issue. It's only to prevent trying to play audio files with more than 8 channels. |
| [05:57:09] | jya: | there has been no change whatsover to jack between january and feb.. |
| [05:58:11] | jya: | my guess is that you've changed something to your jack server, and now it reports not supporting 8 channels. If you post the output of starting mythfrontend with -v audio and going into the audio settings, you will see what jack reports |
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| [05:58:49] | kisak: | jya: I just saw your message to me from umm ... 7 1/2 hours ago, sorry I didn't catch it before I reitterated what I'm experiencing |
| [05:59:08] | jya: | yeah, IRC is like that.. |
| [05:59:46] | kisak: | jack is definately configured for 8 channel playback |
| [06:00:59] | jya: | not according to myth it isn't… myth uses jack_get_ports to report what channels is in use |
| [06:01:14] | jya: | otherwise, please send me your jack configuration file, and I have a look in more details |
| [06:01:24] | kisak: | I use qjackctl to launch jackd with my window manager, and the output channels is forced to 8 |
| [06:01:55] | jya: | well, again, post the output of -v audio and going into the audio setup. |
| [06:02:13] | kisak: | okay |
| [06:02:17] | jya: | I got to run, will be back in a few hours. have shopping to do, feed the kids, bath them, put them to bed. |
| [06:02:30] | kisak: | I'll be asleep by then |
| [06:02:39] | jya: | they scream if they see me close to a computer :( |
| [06:02:43] | kisak: | maybe I can catch you another day |
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| [06:04:57] | kisak: | "JACK: is invalid or not usable." that didn't come up before |
| [06:05:16] | jya: | that would explain it too… jackd isn't responding to request |
| [06:06:21] | jya: | when you are seeing in the settings (8 vs 7.1) is simply because the settings show your existing config, and won't attempt to fix it by itself. |
| [06:06:37] | jya: | now navigate in the list of audio output device |
| [06:06:48] | jya: | and go back to the jack one |
| [06:06:55] | jya: | or do: |
| [06:07:04] | jya: | switch from the current audio device |
| [06:07:33] | jya: | press scan device (this refresh the list) and then see if jack is still showing up |
| [06:07:54] | jya: | it's important that you move from the current audio device that was selected from when to enter |
| [06:08:23] | kisak: | jack is not on the list |
| [06:08:40] | jya: | so its not running |
| [06:08:45] | kisak: | okay, at least this gives me something to chew on |
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| [06:09:57] | kisak: | I can see the /usr/bin/jackd process in htop |
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| [06:10:43] | kisak: | I tried to downgrade jack a couple minutes ago, I may have broken something |
| [06:11:30] | kisak: | a nice recompile of mythtv should factor that out |
| [06:15:34] | kisak: | okay, got rid of that error message, it was from my fiddling just then, not the original issue |
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| [06:21:58] | kisak: | jya: here is the mythfrontend -v audio you requested, the startup handshake was omitted: http://pastebin.com/MCHrgRcW |
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| [06:26:39] | kisak: | jya: SB should be the primary audio card, CA0106 is a secondary audio card that is left out of the jack setup, the is no hdmi connected, so that's a pipeline to nowhere, and loopback is an alsa loopback device which is 8 channels |
| [06:28:32] | kisak: | in my setup, surround sound applications like mythtv and mplayer are routed through jack, while misc. apps like firefox and pulse are routed through the loopback device |
| [06:31:45] | kisak: | if I switch the output device to null, rescan, then I can select JACK: again and stereo is the only option in the lower field |
| [06:34:50] | kisak: | the terminal reports 2012-03–04 01:31:31.163403 I Found JACK: (Use JACK default sound server. | Device supports up to 7.1) the second time around |
| [06:37:46] | kisak: | this doesn't seem to be a problem with the jack audio pipeline, just the logic that selects the amount of channels to use |
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| [09:16:16] | k-man: | is there some way to keep the "adjust audio sync" menu on the screen for longer |
| [09:16:19] | k-man: | ? |
| [09:16:26] | k-man: | it keeps dissapearing before I get the sync right |
| [09:29:57] | k-man: | damn i'm hopeless at getting it in sync |
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| [09:57:19] | jya: | kisak: thanks for the report… I think I know what the problem could be |
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| [10:11:34] | jya: | what version of pkzip is used to compress the themes being downloaded? |
| [10:11:49] | jya: | when I try to download a theme on the mac I get Unsupported PKZip version. Skipping file. |
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| [11:58:51] | aster1sk: | Morning all, this picture is killing me, is there anything I can change to increase the quality — I'll provide details in a moment. http://i.imgur.com/EW1P8.png |
| [11:58:57] | aster1sk: | It's Hauppage 1600 Analogue / Rogers Cable — 0.24.0+fixes.20110908.1de0431–0ubuntu1 |
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| [12:03:20] | stuartm: | aster1sk: it's unrelated to your picture problem, but that version of 0.24 is pretty old, 0.24.2 was released at the end of January, you might want to think about upgrading |
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| [12:05:29] | aster1sk: | Yeah I would if it wasn't such a pain. I require about 10% of what myth is actually capable of doing and don't care to muck with it. |
| [12:06:05] | aster1sk: | I'd actually prefer HTStvheadend but NTSC support is no good. |
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| [12:06:58] | aster1sk: | I don't record any shows, I don't care for the myth frontend, I just want an x264 stream from /dev/video0. |
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| [12:08:30] | stuartm: | H264 |
| [12:08:37] | stuartm: | x264 is a program |
| [12:08:46] | stuartm: | application even |
| [12:09:39] | stuartm: | aster1sk: what are you using if not mythfrontend for playback? |
| [12:09:46] | stuartm: | the problem is no deinterlacing |
| [12:09:58] | stuartm: | or a crap deinterlacer |
| [12:11:41] | stuartm: | well that's how it looks to me, but it could also be an issue with the driver or arguments used to the driver, #linuxtv guys might be able to suggest driver or hardware specific advice |
| [12:13:01] | stuartm: | aster1sk: fwiw, if you just want livetv from mythbackend without the menus, then you could use mythavtest (not exactly what it's designed for, but it works |
| [12:17:01] | aster1sk: | I'm using XBMC on an ATV2 |
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| [12:17:47] | aster1sk: | You're right with x264 – I originally just wanted to pipe the output from /dev/video0 into ffmpeg / x264 in order to push to iPad as well but then I need a segmenter. |
| [12:18:24] | aster1sk: | That screen was taken from MythTV Frontent x86 Macbook. |
| [12:19:01] | aster1sk: | I just enabled de-interlacing and it still looks pretty terrible – though I'd bet that's from the source more than anything. |
| [12:19:15] | aster1sk: | I've got the latest fw / module for the 1600 card. |
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| [12:21:42] | aster1sk: | stuartm: You know anything about OTA ATSC stuff? |
| [12:23:44] | aster1sk: | Also here's a screen after enabling vdpau high in frontend config : http://i.imgur.com/XEw7b.jpg |
| [12:25:45] | aster1sk: | Here's with the canned 'High Quality' setting under frontend config : http://i.imgur.com/4qkEF.jpg |
| [12:26:04] | aster1sk: | Still looks heavily interlaced. |
| [12:30:15] | stuartm: | aster1sk: no I don't I'm in the UK |
| [12:31:10] | stuartm: | aster1sk: ok, looks there's something wrong with the hardware/driver :/ |
| [12:31:12] | aster1sk: | Ah ok – makes sense since most people aren't awake at this time. |
| [12:31:30] | aster1sk: | Interesting, I'll try a different version. |
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| [12:32:19] | stuartm: | aster1sk: just check one thing, press MENU while watching, Video > Advanced > Video Scan – then make sure it's set to Interlaced |
| [12:32:47] | stuartm: | could be that it thinks the source is progressive for some reason |
| [12:33:11] | aster1sk: | Let's try — how to access menu using a keyboard in mythTV Frontend? |
| [12:33:29] | aster1sk: | I'll google -- |
| [12:33:46] | stuartm: | aster1sk: M |
| [12:33:54] | aster1sk: | LOL makes sense |
| [12:35:06] | stuartm: | the location of that Video Scan entry might be different in 0.24, the menu layout was changed at some point but I don't know if that was before or after the 0.24 release |
| [12:35:58] | aster1sk: | Yeah so tried all three settings and extremely subtle change — progressive certainly looked the worst. |
| [12:37:56] | stuartm: | ok, so it still sounds like something is amiss with the actual capture side, could be the driver or the recording profile in mythtv, unfortunately it's been years since I've used any form of analogue capture |
| [12:38:42] | stuartm: | and that's the same for most (all?) MythTV devs who have either moved to digital only, or the HDPVR |
| [12:40:12] | aster1sk: | Here's dmesg | grep cx18 |
| [12:40:13] | aster1sk: | http://pastie.org/3518074 |
| [12:40:45] | aster1sk: | Yeah I'd like it to look better but if I can't it's no big deal. |
| [12:41:10] | aster1sk: | And according to google this is the latest http://linuxtv.org/downloads/firmware/ |
| [12:41:51] | aster1sk: | So I'm currently on 0.0.74.0 – I'll look for more recent. |
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| [12:46:43] | stuartm: | could be that the bitrate is set too low in the recording profile ... |
| [12:46:55] | stuartm: | or the wrong capture resolution |
| [12:51:27] | aster1sk: | Hmm that's in mythtv-setup? |
| [12:51:35] | aster1sk: | On the host with the NTSC card? |
| [12:51:43] | stuartm: | try changing the capture resolution under Recording Profiles to 720x480 instead of 480x480 |
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| [12:52:27] | stuartm: | bizarrely it's under mythfrontend, in the settings menus, buried a little |
| [12:54:27] | aster1sk: | Oh right – so when you change that it affects the backend? (I assume in the DB) |
| [12:59:22] | aster1sk: | Going to try this as well http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx18 |
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| [13:08:20] | stuartm: | aster1sk: yes, for some stupid reason the settings are in the frontend even though they concern the backend (I'm currently moving those into mythtv-setup where they belong) |
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| [13:38:00] | aster1sk: | stuartm: Looks much better on ATV / XBMC now after de-interlace (Auto) and stretching the source – kinda weird but I'm happy. |
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| [13:51:37] | stuartm: | aster1sk: good :) |
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| [14:02:28] | slappy: | Hello |
| [14:03:17] | stuartm: | hi |
| [14:03:18] | slappy: | I have a user job for transcoding here: http://pastebin.com/q7ZWc2aD |
| [14:03:32] | slappy: | Everything seems to work ok |
| [14:03:43] | slappy: | except that the transcoding stops at exactly 5 minutes everytime |
| [14:03:47] | slappy: | 5:00 |
| [14:04:07] | slappy: | I've tried different recordings but they all cut off at 5min |
| [14:05:01] | slappy: | The script is based off of the transcodestub |
| [14:05:18] | slappy: | but uses HandBrakeCLI as the transcoder |
| [14:06:17] | slappy: | I have tried this both by launching the user job through mythweb with the same 5min cut off |
| [14:06:37] | slappy: | and using pkexec -u mythtv to launch my script |
| [14:06:42] | slappy: | both do the same thing |
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| [14:10:01] | slappy: | Maybe I've got an overflow going on with stdout? |
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| [14:10:24] | doda_: | hi folks |
| [14:10:30] | slappy: | I tried to avoid that by using >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| [14:10:54] | doda_: | how do i scan my channels, i use a random cable in a random country |
| [14:11:25] | doda_: | try-all doesn't seem to work, but ivtv-tune with the frequency from the site works |
| [14:15:34] | slappy: | does anyone here have an example of a userjob that works with handbrakecli? maybe I can just work off of that? |
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| [15:16:47] | pyrodex: | can any recommend a good quality 6 port splitter for COAX? I need some more runs in my attic and need to provide quality lines to my HDHR devices. |
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| [15:28:50] | doda_: | is there a logger for this channel ?, i asked a question but then got dissconected |
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| [15:33:28] | Cougar: | doda_: sorry, there was no answer for that |
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| [15:47:34] | peitolm: | odd, i thought here was a link to it in h topic |
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| [15:58:50] | doda_: | hi, sorry to repeat the question, but how do i use mythtv without the frequency lists ? |
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| [16:09:25] | wagnerrp: | !url logs |
| [16:09:25] | MythLogBot: | logs: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1 |
| [16:09:30] | wagnerrp: | doda_: ^^^ |
| [16:09:57] | wagnerrp: | doda_: use mythtv without the frequency lists? |
| [16:11:13] | wagnerrp: | slappy: the System() class in the 0.24 python bindings does not read the pipes until the process terminates |
| [16:11:40] | wagnerrp: | which means if your process produces more than 64KB of output on stdout or stderr |
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| [16:11:50] | wagnerrp: | it will permanently block |
| [16:12:04] | wagnerrp: | it would seem you are producing 64KB of stdout in just five minutes |
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| [16:13:17] | wagnerrp: | so, either set some option that tells handbrakecli to be quiet, append a '>/dev/null' as the final argument, or backport the improved System() class in the 0.25 bindings back for your use |
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| [17:47:11] | doda_: | wagnerrp: how do i do that ?, all i have is the try all option, but that tries the lists |
| [17:49:41] | wagnerrp: | what exactly are you trying to do? |
| [17:51:15] | doda_: | scan channels on my local cable, i live in a random country that isn't listed :) |
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| [18:02:58] | wagnerrp: | doda_: just a guess, your best bet is probably to use the czech frequency table |
| [18:03:36] | wagnerrp: | if thats not correct, it likely wouldnt be difficult to set up a new table for macedonia |
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| [18:21:01] | doda_: | wagnerrp: mhm, ok will try to make a table since i don't have the czech table |
| [18:21:27] | wagnerrp: | it should be available from a dropdown somewhere |
| [18:24:17] | doda_: | its not :/ |
| [18:24:35] | doda_: | can i download them somewhere ? |
| [18:24:49] | wagnerrp: | no, channel tables are compiled into mythtv |
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| [18:26:43] | doda_: | that kinda sucks, can i make my own list manually ? |
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| [18:27:53] | wagnerrp: | if you cant select from the lists, there would be no sense making one manually... since you couldnt tell it to use it |
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| [18:28:40] | doda_: | mhm, ok, thanks for your help :) |
| [18:29:16] | wagnerrp: | odd... the 'channel frequency table' dropdown lists different options from that i found in the code |
| [18:29:23] | wagnerrp: | youre right, there is no czech option |
| [18:29:52] | wagnerrp: | perhaps that is renamed to 'europe-east'? |
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| [18:41:18] | doda_: | tried that too, it said no new channels added |
| [18:42:51] | wagnerrp: | what card do you have? |
| [18:43:05] | doda_: | hauppage pvr 150 |
| [18:43:20] | doda_: | maybe the card is broken, but ivtv finds channels |
| [18:43:59] | doda_: | not i tried to add one channel manually in mythtv, i get errors when trying to watch live tv |
| [18:44:16] | doda_: | 2012-03–04 19:41:41.603 RingBuf(/data/Movies/1000_20120304194133.nuv) Warning: Taking too long to be allowed to read.. |
| [18:44:26] | wagnerrp: | well theres one serious problem |
| [18:44:32] | wagnerrp: | you have an IVTV/MPEG tuner card |
| [18:44:40] | doda_: | yeah |
| [18:44:40] | wagnerrp: | while you configured it as a V4L2 tuner card |
| [18:44:45] | doda_: | :D ah |
| [18:44:48] | doda_: | lol |
| [18:45:05] | wagnerrp: | nuvs are only generated when using framegrabbers |
| [18:45:07] | doda_: | i tried it as ivtv later too |
| [18:45:09] | doda_: | mhm, ok |
| [18:45:38] | doda_: | a yeah |
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| [18:45:43] | doda_: | makes sense |
| [18:45:56] | doda_: | i saw it was v4l. then switched it to ivtv |
| [18:46:06] | doda_: | but when it didn't scan i reverted it |
| [18:46:23] | wagnerrp: | each time you select from the dropdown will simply attempt to find any matching hardware on your system |
| [18:46:38] | wagnerrp: | the 'v4l' type will blindly match anything it finds in /dev/video<n> |
| [18:46:55] | wagnerrp: | while the ivtv type will be more selective, and probe each device to see if it is compatible |
| [18:47:15] | doda_: | mhm, yeah v4l can be an webcam or something |
| [18:47:37] | wagnerrp: | v4l is any 'framegrabber' device, interfaced through the v4l API |
| [18:47:58] | wagnerrp: | framegrabber being something that just exposes the raw video frames in some memory buffer space |
| [18:48:05] | wagnerrp: | which mythtv must grab, and compress |
| [18:48:20] | wagnerrp: | many webcams operate in that manner |
| [18:48:22] | [R]: | that doesnt sound very nice... does it ask before grabbing atleast? |
| [18:48:34] | wagnerrp: | some others are 'UVC' cameras, providing MJPEG output |
| [18:50:31] | [R]: | i have oen of thsoe... i alway wondered what it stood for. ultra violet camera? |
| [18:51:18] | wagnerrp: | universal video, i believe |
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| [19:21:24] | doda_: | yeah, framebuffer cards cameras are cheaper but now are phased out, cpu's are cheaper and everyone uses dvb-t |
| [19:21:30] | doda_: | *dvb |
| [19:25:44] | [R]: | um... i wouldn go so far as to say "everyone uses dvb" |
| [19:29:23] | swerve: | i was having trouble with std::bad_alloc error w/3 sticks of memory in a dual channel board, removed the odd stick & things seemed to have improved – wow |
| [19:30:22] | swerve: | just wanted to know if there is any way to get the advantage of the extra 512mb stick, like through disabling dual channel if possible, or if it's still better just to run the 2gb in dual channel |
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| [19:33:18] | wagnerrp: | with all three sticks in there, dual channel was already disabled |
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| [19:42:09] | swerve: | I see. so i'm better off just with the two, then |
| [19:45:30] | [R]: | that's what she said |
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| [19:46:24] | kisak: | I found a dead link in mythtv's wiki: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Ceton_InfiniTV_4 the driver url needs to contain .../linux_drivers/ instead of .../linux-drivers/ |
| [19:46:53] | wagnerrp: | fix it? |
| [19:47:03] | kisak: | I don't have a wiki account |
| [19:47:58] | wagnerrp: | by the power of grayskull... you have the power! to create an account... :) |
| [19:52:29] | [R]: | grayskull? |
| [19:52:47] | wagnerrp: | grayskull |
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| [19:53:27] | wagnerrp: | hey, no one every talks of 80s cartoons as having well written dialog |
| [19:53:41] | stuartm: | greyskull |
| [19:53:56] | wagnerrp: | well sure, if youre british |
| [19:54:47] | stuartm: | of course everyone overlooks the question of why the good guy lives in a castle shaped like a skull – reminds me of the Mitchell and Webb sketch about the SS |
| [19:55:42] | stuartm: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEle_DLDg9Y |
| [19:56:08] | wagnerrp: | and everyone overlooks the question of why we have cartoons about oiled up, muscle bound men in loincloths, but are so concerned about children turning into "the gay" |
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| [19:56:31] | knightr: | wagnerrp, or Canadian... |
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| [19:59:01] | Yammeh: | Hi guys, I'm having a issue setting up mythtv which I'm hoping someone can help me with. When I installed it from the apt repository, I typed in the wrong mysql password and now I'm trying to reinstall the package, I get the error "Access denied", does anyone know how I can edit the password so I can reinstall the package? |
| [20:01:50] | ** wagnerrp wonders why the SS had english accents ** | |
| [20:02:34] | Scopeuk: | Yammeh, ubuntu? |
| [20:02:37] | Yammeh: | Yer |
| [20:02:42] | Scopeuk: | open a terminal |
| [20:02:56] | Yammeh: | Yup |
| [20:02:58] | Scopeuk: | cd /home/mythtv/.mythtv |
| [20:03:10] | Scopeuk: | cat mysql.txt |
| [20:03:14] | Scopeuk: | password should be at the bottom |
| [20:03:32] | Scopeuk: | DBpassword=thepassword |
| [20:03:58] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: can cartoons featuring oiled muscled men in loincloths turn people gay? Personally I find that particular sight repellent, if I found myself even the least bit attracted to He-man I'd have to suspect that I was gay before I watched the series |
| [20:04:14] | Yammeh: | I set the user for mythtv to be root |
| [20:04:31] | Scopeuk: | database user or mythtv user? |
| [20:04:41] | Yammeh: | And I've tried setting the mythtv.txt user /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt to the correct password |
| [20:04:48] | Yammeh: | I believe the mythtv user |
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| [20:04:57] | Yammeh: | But I was rushing, because I'm an idiot |
| [20:05:11] | Scopeuk: | your other option is to change the user password in mysql |
| [20:05:19] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: well you cant watch venture brothers without finding yourself attracted to brock sampson, regardless of previous persuasion |
| [20:05:20] | stuartm: | that said, I'm repelled by the body builder look when applied to woman as well |
| [20:05:32] | Scopeuk: | someone else is probably better equiped to walk you through that one though |
| [20:05:36] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: never heard of that one :) |
| [20:05:44] | Yammeh: | I should be able to do that with the interface, I'll give that a shot |
| [20:05:46] | Yammeh: | Thanks |
| [20:05:50] | slappy_: | Hello |
| [20:06:11] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: he's the swedish murder machine! |
| [20:06:50] | Scopeuk: | Yammeh, the output from cat mysql.txt also has the configured database username much further up |
| [20:07:49] | Yammeh: | Well, I was just able to remove MythTv, so I'll try reinstalling and starting from scratch |
| [20:08:03] | Scopeuk: | for future reference |
| [20:08:07] | Scopeuk: | sudo dpkg-reconfigure |
| [20:08:12] | Scopeuk: | sudo dpkg-reconfigure "package name" |
| [20:08:17] | Scopeuk: | reruns the initial setup script |
| [20:08:25] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: well if their video player didnt seem to be completely broken... http://www.adultswim.com/americaloveslists/vb . . . s/index.html |
| [20:08:27] | Yammeh: | Ah, should have done that before then :P |
| [20:08:28] | Yammeh: | Thanks |
| [20:08:58] | Scopeuk: | nice to be able to dish out a little help for a change |
| [20:09:23] | slappy_: | got a questoin about exporting recordings to mythvideo |
| [20:09:34] | doda_: | wagnerrp seems like europe-east doesn't find all the channels, but i finnally got somewhere, thanks for the help :) |
| [20:09:45] | Yammeh: | Don't suppose you know how to setup x11 forwarding to Windows? I'm trying to setup through putty and all the guides end up with the same error. |
| [20:10:08] | slappy_: | How can I get the tv meta data for exported recordings back into mythvideo? |
| [20:10:24] | slappy_: | Do I have to name the files like SHOW1S1E2? |
| [20:10:42] | [R]: | slappy_: the wiki explains the filenameining conventions you needt ofollow |
| [20:10:48] | slappy_: | ok thanks |
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| [20:14:29] | Scopeuk: | Yammeh, putty + xming |
| [20:15:05] | Scopeuk: | in putty tick the forward x11 under ssh settings, has to be done before you open the connection, xming just has to be running in the tray |
| [20:16:42] | wagnerrp: | or you use 'xhost' to allow access from that host without using putty |
| [20:17:01] | wagnerrp: | or you set up proper magic cookie sharing |
| [20:17:05] | Yammeh: | Well, I've been trying to use xming |
| [20:17:16] | Yammeh: | When I enable x11 forwarding in putty |
| [20:17:22] | Scopeuk: | wagnerrp, only good if your inside the same network, although x11 forwarding is a touch worthless over the internet anyway |
| [20:17:24] | Yammeh: | What do I put in x dsplay location? |
| [20:17:31] | Scopeuk: | jsut leave it putty will do it for you |
| [20:17:42] | Scopeuk: | xming is normally 10.0 though iirc |
| [20:17:55] | Yammeh: | Ok, so xming running, opening the shh connection to putty |
| [20:17:57] | wagnerrp: | Scopeuk: works relatively well for me |
| [20:17:58] | Scopeuk: | its been a little while since i've needed it |
| [20:18:20] | Yammeh: | When I look at the event log usin putty, I get x11 forwarding refused |
| [20:18:25] | Scopeuk: | wagnerrp, perhaps more dependant on the available upload at the client end |
| [20:18:36] | wagnerrp: | most applications dont need all that much bandwidth, so its all a function of latency |
| [20:18:52] | Scopeuk: | hmm i've found alot of applications take a long long time to load |
| [20:19:00] | wagnerrp: | 20–30ms is more or less usable |
| [20:19:07] | wagnerrp: | beyond that, it gets exponentially more painful |
| [20:19:11] | Scopeuk: | but I do have pretty heavily restricted upload |
| [20:19:18] | wagnerrp: | and whatever you do, dont resize windows |
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| [20:19:39] | wagnerrp: | my experience is on a server with some 750Kbps upload |
| [20:19:45] | wagnerrp: | ~100KBps |
| [20:19:54] | Yammeh: | Any idea why I get the error x11 forwarding refused? |
| [20:25:04] | Scopeuk: | Yammeh, http://aruljohn.com/info/x11forwarding/ |
| [20:27:23] | Yammeh: | See, that's what I've been doing, when I use echo $DISPLAY, nothing is stored |
| [20:29:15] | wagnerrp: | then 'xhost <remote machine>' through the xming command terminal |
| [20:29:30] | wagnerrp: | and then 'export DISPLAY=<desktop>:0.0' |
| [20:29:39] | Yammeh: | Also, there doesn't seem to be a .Xauthority file created.. |
| [20:29:43] | Yammeh: | Ok, I'll try that |
| [20:30:23] | wagnerrp: | when using xhost, all authentication is disabled, so there is no need to worry about an .Xauthority |
| [20:31:19] | markcerv: | cd |
| [20:31:45] | Yammeh: | I might be being a bit stupid, but how do I access the xming command terminal? |
| [20:31:52] | Yammeh: | I just get an icon in the taskbar |
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| [20:32:06] | wagnerrp: | right click on the systray icon, select Command Processor |
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| [20:32:38] | Yammeh: | I don't get that, I get hide root window, view log, about xming, exit |
| [20:32:55] | wagnerrp: | what version are you running? |
| [20:33:11] | Yammeh: | 6.9.0.31 |
| [20:33:19] | wagnerrp: | ah, that might be why |
| [20:33:23] | Yammeh: | Apparently a really old version? |
| [20:33:24] | wagnerrp: | im using 7.3something |
| [20:33:35] | Yammeh: | I downloaded it today.. how can I get the old version |
| [20:33:40] | Yammeh: | I'll update and give it a shot |
| [20:33:46] | wagnerrp: | 7.5.0.39 |
| [20:37:14] | doda_: | ha, wierd, myth zooms in the video after a while |
| [20:38:10] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will automatically adjust the zoom in attempt to compensate for letter/pillarboxed content |
| [20:38:41] | wagnerrp: | i.e. analog TV will be 4:3, but if you are watching 16:9 letterboxed content on a 16:9 display, mythtv will automatically zoom to fill |
| [20:41:05] | doda_: | yeah |
| [20:41:16] | doda_: | but i can't read the subtitles :D |
| [20:41:36] | doda_: | that is frontend side right ? |
| [20:42:08] | wagnerrp: | yes, you can adjust the zoom mode through the 'm' menu |
| [20:42:19] | wagnerrp: | or i believe 'w' may be the default keybinding |
| [20:42:32] | wagnerrp: | and you should be able to disable the auto-zoom in the playback settings |
| [20:42:43] | wagnerrp: | doda_: these are "hardsubs"? |
| [20:43:07] | wagnerrp: | meaning the subtitles are cooked into the image itself, rather than being passed through the more traditional VBI data? |
| [20:43:29] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: nah, soft subs are also zoomed for some reason, and that means they can disappear off-screen |
| [20:43:46] | wagnerrp: | eew |
| [20:44:13] | stuartm: | I've noted it a few times in the past, but since I rarely have to zoom it's been low on the agenda |
| [20:44:34] | wagnerrp: | open up a ticket so you dont forget? |
| [20:44:40] | [R]: | thats what my boss says |
| [20:44:42] | [R]: | it pisses me off |
| [20:44:49] | [R]: | i have the mind like a steel trap... i won't forget |
| [20:45:28] | wagnerrp: | i have a big text file at the root of my repository, and a mind like a sieve |
| [20:45:46] | wagnerrp: | or perhaps a colander |
| [20:46:38] | Yammeh: | It works! |
| [20:46:46] | Yammeh: | Thanks wagnerrp and Scopeuk |
| [20:48:27] | Yammeh: | Wow there are a lot of settings on here |
| [20:49:13] | [R]: | that's what she said |
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| [20:53:09] | doda_: | wagnerrp: yeah |
| [20:53:21] | doda_: | hardsubs |
| [20:53:50] | wagnerrp: | doda_: well as stuartm mentioned, its irrelevant, mythtv is just bugged in regards to that |
| [20:55:10] | doda_: | mhm, its not a problem, biggest issue is that i have to edit channels by hand :) |
| [20:56:37] | wagnerrp: | what version are you running? |
| [20:59:21] | stuartm: | [R]: if you don't remember that you've forgotten something then there's nothing to worry about, right? ;) |
| [20:59:35] | [R]: | haha |
| [20:59:37] | doda_: | 1:0.24.2–2 on archlinux |
| [21:00:30] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: so long as no one else remembers it either |
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| [21:07:03] | kisak: | wagnerrp: turns out I had a wiki account from a year and a half ago, forgot I had it |
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| [21:12:13] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: dont we already have a ticket open for 10408? |
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| [21:22:33] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: I didn't find one, but I could have missed it |
| [21:23:03] | wagnerrp: | i know its been discussed, dont know if its actually gotten a ticket before |
| [21:23:09] | stuartm: | hmm, http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10382 could be related |
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| [21:26:42] | stuartm: | if it were 10382 the workaround suggested won't work, since these TV series have no coverart etc to use instead |
| [21:30:20] | stuartm: | if the recording rule indicates that it's a series, then there's no reason why we should be marking the recording as a film, so even if it's related to 10382 there is a proper fix possible |
| [21:44:01] | pyrodex: | looks like the latest git has a compile issue with the changes to util.h |
| [21:44:03] | pyrodex: | make[2]: Entering directory `/source/mythtv/mythtv/libs/libmyth' |
| [21:44:03] | pyrodex: | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../libmythbase/util.h', needed by `audiooutput.o'. Stop. |
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| [21:44:57] | [R]: | pyrodex: its not the latest then |
| [21:45:25] | pyrodex: | I just did a git pull. just did a distclean and reconfig, let me see if that fixes it. I did a make clean first and reconfig |
| [21:46:32] | bcgrown: | hello mythtv people |
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| [22:03:57] | bcgrown: | where can I find a list of all the LIRC "macro" keys for mythfrontend? I mean the ones that have config = Left and stuff like that instead of specific keys |
| [22:04:08] | bcgrown: | or... uhh.. does Left just mean Left arrow? |
| [22:04:34] | [R]: | yes |
| [22:06:40] | bcgrown: | um.. nevermind then. *facepalm* |
| [22:11:14] | bcgrown: | it seems like mythfrontend doesn't take hold of new lirc settings after I stop the service and start it again. I have to actually close the frontend and re-open it. actually i may even have to restart lirc with the front end closed for it to get updated. is that intended behaviour? |
| [22:11:39] | [R]: | if you modify the lircd settings, then you need to rsetart it |
| [22:11:47] | [R]: | if you modify the myth lirc settings, you have to restart it |
| [22:11:53] | [R]: | see how that works? |
| [22:12:38] | bcgrown: | yeah but i thought the settings i was modifying were for lirc, not myth |
| [22:12:43] | bcgrown: | i guess i was wrong? |
| [22:12:54] | [R]: | well it depends on what settings you are talkinga bout |
| [22:12:54] | bcgrown: | ~./lirc/mythtv that is |
| [22:12:59] | [R]: | thats the myth settings |
| [22:13:01] | bcgrown: | ah |
| [22:13:04] | [R]: | read the log from when you start the frontend |
| [22:13:11] | bcgrown: | so i was restarting lirc for no reason haha |
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| [22:49:00] | mangus580: | crazy question.... why would my pvr-500's not show up in mythtv-setup? |
| [22:49:17] | mangus580: | but yet will function on the frontend, and play video? |
| [22:49:28] | [R]: | is the backend runnign? what does "show up" mean |
| [22:49:30] | mangus580: | (they have been setup and working for a while) |
| [22:49:54] | mangus580: | when you go into the capture cards settings, and choose a device, they say 'failed to open' |
| [22:50:04] | mangus580: | backend is not running when I try this |
| [22:50:24] | [R]: | what does the backend log say |
| [22:50:31] | mangus580: | where do i find it? |
| [22:51:14] | [R]: | not backend sorry |
| [22:51:15] | [R]: | the setup log |
| [22:51:26] | mangus580: | ok – again, where do I find it :-) |
| [22:51:36] | [R]: | its the touput when you run it... |
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| [22:52:33] | mangus580: | I dont understand |
| [22:52:48] | mangus580: | I cant get it to run from a command line, have to use a shortcut for some reason |
| [22:53:48] | [R]: | wtf... |
| [22:53:53] | mangus580: | yeah |
| [22:53:56] | [R]: | there is no difference between running it form the command line |
| [22:53:59] | [R]: | and running it form a shortcut |
| [22:54:17] | mangus580: | when I run cli, I get a GLib-GIO:ERROR, AND IT DUMPS |
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| [22:54:30] | [R]: | mythtv doesnt use glib... |
| [22:54:42] | mangus580: | now mind you, this is from a vnc terminal (which I have always used) as my backend is headless normally |
| [22:54:51] | [R]: | yeah, you dont use vnc |
| [22:54:53] | [R]: | you us remote x |
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| [22:55:06] | mangus580: | I have yet to figure remote x out :-) |
| [22:55:13] | mangus580: | expecially since my desktop is winbloze |
| [22:55:32] | mangus580: | am I forgetting the command for setup? it is mythtv-setup, right? |
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| [22:56:49] | [R]: | well get a real os |
| [22:57:01] | [R]: | thats it |
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| [22:57:18] | mangus580: | LOL – I rely too much on things that linux cant offer me... or I would |
| [22:59:11] | mangus580: | in the end, all I am trying to do is resolve video quality issues from teh tuner |
| [23:00:26] | mangus580: | was trying to watch the race, and it keeps cutting out audio (and I think the video is choppy too) |
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| [23:09:33] | mangus580: | oh, it turns out it might be a FE issue |
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| [23:48:43] | bcgrown: | non-mythtv question... why can't i "sudo echo" a value to /proc/acpi/wakeup? i just get permission denied... |
| [23:49:19] | [R]: | because the redirection doesnt work through the sudo |
| [23:49:39] | bcgrown: | [R]: ah, did not know that. "sudo sh -c" does it |
| [23:50:27] | bcgrown: | anyway i'm outta here to test if that worked |
| [23:50:29] | bcgrown: | later |
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