Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, December 24th, 2011, 00:09 UTC

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AndyCap:

Heh, I take it samsung wanted PMPO for televisions? introducin CMR

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sphery:

hehe, foot control

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rsiebert:

just for information: the new theme version 1.6 of blue-abstract has been released

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sphery:

nice work

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Beirdo:

yawn

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: nonsense! a 6yr old closed ticket is the perfect place to complain about your particular mythtv annoyance

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Beirdo:

heheh

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dekarl:

wagnerrp, beirdo: what happened to http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2011-10-26:16:08 ?

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mazda01:

morning. Merry Xmas Eve to all who celebrate

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pyther:

Good morning

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pyther:

What are SCTE channels?

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Torne:

i just upgraded mythbuntu from jaunty to karmic (yes i know i am massively behind) and sound doesn't work any more in mythtv. I'm outputting to ALSA:pulse which used to work, and works for other alsa apps

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Torne:

but while mythtv is running not only does *it* not make any sound, but nor can any other alsa apps

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Torne:

they start making sound again as soon as you quit mythfrontend

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Torne:

any guesses? :)

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[R]:

pulse sucks... shocking isn't it

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Torne:

it worked in the previous versoin, and everything else is able to output to the alsa pulse sink just fine

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Torne:

it's an ugly config, i know

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[R]:

never really "got" the point of pulse in 99% of configs

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Torne:

it avoids painstakingly reconfiguring ubuntu at length

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Torne:

and it means you don' thave to quit mythfrontend for other stuff to be able to play sound

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[R]:

alsa supports software mixing natively

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[R]:

and has for many years

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dekarl-too:

pyther: SCTE is the US cable organisation which makes e.g. the US cable TV standard.

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Torne:

it's never worked for me :)

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[R]:

infact im listening to an mp3 in mpalyer while playing a youtube video right now

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[R]:

dmix has existed for years

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Torne:

yes

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Torne:

i know

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bixter:

is .25 stable enough to run all the time or should I stick with .24?

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Torne:

ah; it's because mythtv is suspending pulseaudio :)

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Torne:

..is there a way to make it not do that?

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[R]:

bixter: well tehre is no 0.25... so...

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[R]:

Torne: get rid of pulse

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[R]:

:)

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KungFuJesus:

wagnerrp: I'm getting errors trying to compile mythgame

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Torne:

if you want to come to my parents' house and configure their machine such that multiple things can output audio at once without using pulseaudio then feel free

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Torne:

otherwise, please don't give useless suggestions :)

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[R]:

sure, i require $100/hr

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KungFuJesus:

wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/wVTEM7gr

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[R]:

and paid airfare

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wagnerrp:

Torne: it should 'just work'

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wagnerrp:

most sound card support hardware mixing in ALSA

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wagnerrp:

and for the past couple years, ALSA will automatically enable dmix on any hardware that does not support mixing

[17:36:31]

KungFuJesus:

it looks like some issue with a compiler macro, as it's an "EXPORT" line for a shared library

[17:36:34]

Torne:

wagnerrp: yes, i am fully aware that it should just work

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Torne:

however, it does not

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Torne:

even if i manually configure dmix

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Torne:

so, i long ago gave up and just let ubuntu use pulse

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Torne:

and that worked fine

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wagnerrp:

the problem is that all those other applications are currently configured to use pulseaudio

[17:37:11]

Torne:

wagnerrp: no, it doesn't even work with two instances of aplay at a time

[17:37:12]

wagnerrp:

so if you disable pulse, all those other applications do nothing

[17:38:15]

wagnerrp:

what other than mythtv do you actually have playing audio on a frontend?

[17:38:41]

Torne:

lots of things

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Torne:

the frontend machine is a normal pc

[17:38:51]

Torne:

it gets used to browse the web, run rhythmbox, etc

[17:39:07]

Torne:

people complain if they have to quit mythfrontend before they can do those things

[17:39:22]

[R]:

you dont have to quit it unless you are using pulse crap

[17:39:29]

[R]:

when its at the menu, its not using the audio

[17:39:39]

Torne:

[R]: it is for me

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wagnerrp:

right, mythtv only disables pulse when it is actually in playback

[17:40:05]

Torne:

Not this version

[17:40:10]

Torne:

This version is disabling it at startup

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Torne:

clearly shown in the log

[17:40:31]

Torne:

also, i don't want it disabled *at all*

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[R]:

so stop using that crap, adn yo uwont have problems

[17:40:38]

Torne:

[R]: See above

[17:40:38]

wagnerrp:

what version are you using?

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wagnerrp:

KungFuJesus: that macro should be defined in zlib.h

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KungFuJesus:

.24.1

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KungFuJesus:

wagnerrp: oh you mean my zlib?

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KungFuJesus:

1.2.5.1-r2

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wagnerrp:

zlib.h

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KungFuJesus:

I'll have a look

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wagnerrp:

look in /usr/include/zlib.h

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KungFuJesus:

they are all prefexed with _Z_OF

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KungFuJesus:

prefixed*

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wagnerrp:

what distro?

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KungFuJesus:

Gentoo

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KungFuJesus:

looks like we need a patch file for the ebuild :-p. Using the upstream git overlay

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KungFuJesus:

.24.1

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wagnerrp:

my install of gentoo has the proper macros

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KungFuJesus:

I'm using zlib 1.2.5.1-r2

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KungFuJesus:

are you using 1.2.5 or something?

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wagnerrp:

header says 1.2.5

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KungFuJesus:

gahhh

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KungFuJesus:

generally speaking shared libraries should never change the names of functions like that

[18:36:44]

KungFuJesus:

it's even more annoying when it's preproccessor sugar

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KungFuJesus:

well the good part is there's a preprocessor macro telling you what zlib version you're using in the header, so this can be used to determine which macro you use

[18:38:05]

KungFuJesus:

if I write a patch can you commit it to the upstream overlay?

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wagnerrp:

ill have to take a look at the current base stage 3

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KungFuJesus:

base stage 3 is using your version, the issue is that I'm mixing ~amd64 with amd64, but there's no reason this can't work with a simple patch

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KungFuJesus:

the reason why I favor gentoo over other distros is there usually isn't 6 months of beauracracy before something is fixed that I need to be fixed. Though my patch to lirc stagnated in the bugzilla for about 4 months...seems to vary between maintainers

[18:41:13]

KungFuJesus:

you seem to be a pretty active maintainer

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wagnerrp:

as evident by the last new ebuild last month... :)

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KungFuJesus:

heh

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wagnerrp:

its just... it seems odd that they would do something like that

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wagnerrp:

changing headers in a single version

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KungFuJesus:

the very person that does that is in this channel right now :-p. I won't name names

[18:42:27]

KungFuJesus:

oh, I meant letting ebuilds stagnate

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wagnerrp:

does what?

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wagnerrp:

oh, apparently hes been pushing our recent stuff upstream

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KungFuJesus:

but yeah, there must have been a reason to change that preprocessor macro to be more specific to zlib. Maybe another project uses it

[18:43:42]

KungFuJesus:

sorta...without plugins...

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wagnerrp:

another project should know better than to use a macro already in use by a 15yr old very very base library

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wagnerrp:

and if it were going to be a problem, it should have been a problem long ago

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Oleg_:

what hot new features will appear in mythtv 0.25?

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KungFuJesus:

so is blue OSD dead? I'm starting to miss it :(

[18:45:18]

wagnerrp:

all of the old pre-0.24 OSDs no longer exist

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KungFuJesus:

hmm, the currently default one is too large :(

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KungFuJesus:

any plans to write a mythtv-themes ebuild in the overlay?

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wagnerrp:

nope

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wagnerrp:

themes are now downloaded using the internal theme downloader

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KungFuJesus:

where is that? I didn't see it in the setup screen

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wagnerrp:

frontend setup, theme chooser

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KungFuJesus:

didn't see it in there, what portion of the screen does it occupy?

[18:47:52]

KungFuJesus:

or is it a menu entry?

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wagnerrp:

menu entry

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KungFuJesus:

yep found it

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pyther:

How long should it take to run mythfilldatabase?

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[R]:

depends on how much it has to download

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pyther:

About 100 channels, iotop is showing a steady 600KB/s being written (looks like db access)

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[R]:

its supposed to run in the background

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pyther:

I'm hoping some channels get populated

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pyther:

I used the wrong channel listing at first so had to make some manual changes

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bixter:

in mysql how do I know what storage group a video belongs to?

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[R]:

theres a column for it...

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bixter:

i checked videometadata and storagegroup. am i missing a table?

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[R]:

wait, you said video

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[R]:

isn't htere only 1 group for videos?

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bixter:

nah can have multiple groups

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[R]:

how? what do you name them?

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bixter:

storage groups? just keep adding them in your config as video ones

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wagnerrp:

no, you can only have one storage group (Videos) for video

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bixter:

i have 20 listed

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wagnerrp:

you can define what storage group is used for recordings

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wagnerrp:

but recordings != videos

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[R]:

bixter: thats one group

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[R]:

bixter: with muliptle locations... differnet thing

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wagnerrp:

you have 20 different folders listed for storing video?

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bixter:

right

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bixter:

thats it multiple folders in a group

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bixter:

so how do I know what folder a video is in?

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[R]:

it doesnt store which directory

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wagnerrp:

you dont care

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[R]:

thats the whole point of storage groups

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wagnerrp:

mythtv searches through all folders to find it at time of playback

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bixter:

ah! k thanks

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wagnerrp:

bixter: do note, mythtv flattens all folders listed in a storage group

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bixter:

i thought it would store the path to save on searching everytime. cool thanks yall!

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wagnerrp:

so if for instance, you have 20 different TV shows

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wagnerrp:

and you listed each folder as a storage group path

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wagnerrp:

mythtv will merge those 20 shows together into one

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wagnerrp:

its really intended more to spread content across multiple partitions

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wagnerrp:

rather than having to use RAID or spanning

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pyther:

What are SCTE channels?

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johnsu01:

I've managed to get myth into a state where it thinks the tuner is busy recording, so I can't watch TV — but selecting the recording from the busy dialog just brings me back to the main menu

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johnsu01:

and no recording is shown in the watch recordings area

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johnsu01:

this is the debian-multimedia version, 0.24.1+fixes20111126–0.0

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[R]:

restart the backend

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johnsu01:

yeah, tried that

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johnsu01:

both a restart and a stop then start (verified that it actually stopped)

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[R]:

what "Busy" dialog?

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[R]:

just go to the rescodinrg list

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[R]:

and delete it

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johnsu01:

there's no recording there

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wagnerrp:

check your backend logs

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johnsu01:

[R]: the busy dialog is what pops up to tell you the tuner is busy when you try to watch tv, and lets you choose to watch the recording in theory

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johnsu01:

no error with regular verbosity, I'll have to try increasing it

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johnsu01:

it seems to think it's successfully playing the recording

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johnsu01:

system info tuner status say "Tuner 1 has an error"

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johnsu01:

well the show it thinks it's recording ends in 2 minutes, so we'll see what happens then

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johnsu01:

now we have "Error: MythTV is using all inputs, but there are no active recordings?"

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johnsu01:

logs show that the frontend is talking to the backend and the backend is talking to mysql

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pyther:

Is it possible to update just one channel?

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pyther:

update the guide data for one channel?

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wagnerrp:

pyther: for what purpose?

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pyther:

wagnerrp: I have just one channel that hasn't received guide data

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pyther:

orginally it was missing the xmlid so I filled it in, but it still says no guide data

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pyther:

I ended up doing mythfilldatabase --refresh-today and it updated the problem channel, but all the other days still contain no data for that channel

[22:53:37]

wagnerrp:

when you pull data, you pull all data for the whole video source

[22:54:12]

wagnerrp:

the only thing running over a single channel would do would be to modestly reduce the amount of processing needed

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pyther:

anything I could do to make sure my problem channel pulls in new data

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wagnerrp:

'mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all'

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pyther:

ok, I'll try that, how is that different than mythfilldatabase without any options?

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iamlindoro:

mythfilldatabase with schedules direct by default fills in tomorrow, and 14 days from now

[22:55:31]

iamlindoro:

not everything in between

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iamlindoro:

dd-grab-all tells it to grab everything for all days

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iamlindoro:

and is actually better on schedules direct servers

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pyther:

hmm I have guide data for Tue Dec 27th

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pyther:

I'v always had like 2 weeks of guide data

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pyther:

btw I'm using schedulesdirect

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iamlindoro:

because it's constantly refreshing the day 14 days from now, daily

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iamlindoro:

and then updating that day when it becomes "tomorrow"

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pyther:

I don't think I follow

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iamlindoro:

I don't think you do either

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iamlindoro:

When you run mythfilldatabase, it doesn't just trash all the data

[22:58:05]

iamlindoro:

it adds what it gets for the day +14 from now, and replaces the day +1 from now

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iamlindoro:

all other days are left alone

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iamlindoro:

thus your schedule data, say, +7 days from now won't be touched again until it's +1 days from now

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iamlindoro:

--dd-grab-all says "don't just download +1 and +14, download everything and replace everything I've got"

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pyther:

ahh so since data wasn't fetched for the first time around, it won't update that channel until later

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pyther:

got it

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iamlindoro:

correct

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iamlindoro:

so you would be fine right now

[23:00:00]

iamlindoro:

but if you are desperate to see all two weeks worth, run --dd-grab-all

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pyther:

and I don't care about what is on that channel too much

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pyther:

Now what are SCTE channels? I had a whole bunch found when I did a QAM scan on my cable, but none seemed usable

[23:01:46]

iamlindoro:

SCTE means Society of Cable Television Engineers, and basically means it's a US Cable TV channel

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iamlindoro:

Not all usable channels have SCTE signalling, and not all SCTE signalled channels are usable in myth

[23:02:45]

iamlindoro:

It could be, for example, that your providers channels only fully comply with SCTE when they're broadcasting Video on Demand

[23:02:46]

pyther:

Was it safe to ignore all those SCTE channels?

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iamlindoro:

As safe as ignoring any other channel-- you may have discarded something usable, can't say with actually trying to watch them

[23:03:36]

pyther:

I found only like 3 that were usable and they were public access channels, all the others cased myth to crash

[23:03:51]

pyther:

at least the ones I tried

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iamlindoro:

what is your definition of crash?

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pyther:

the frontend would freeze up

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iamlindoro:

well that's not a crash, then

[23:04:46]

pyther:

usually the first time around it would kick me out of the tv viewer, but the second time around myth would just become unresponsive

[23:05:10]

iamlindoro:

Eventually Myth will time out even if it's getting nothing-- but most users won't wait that long

[23:05:11]

pyther:

and I'd have to go in and change the starting channel or else I'd run into the same problem all over again

[23:05:28]

iamlindoro:

So it's not a crash at all, just a channel that is no longer broadcasting, or lying about its encryption status

[23:05:36]

pyther:

iamlindoro: how long does it take?

[23:05:42]

iamlindoro:

Lending credence to it probably being Video On Demand content that someone has stopped watching

[23:05:50]

iamlindoro:

multiple minutes

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pyther:

hmm then maybe that was exactly the case

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pyther:

it's my understanding that Time Warner Cable will only broadcast the local channels unencrypted

[23:06:31]

pyther:

be nice to get basic cable unencrypted :(

[23:07:32]

pyther:

I wonder how well the WinTV-DCR-2650 works with myth

[23:07:50]

iamlindoro:

For Time Warner Cable, "not at all"

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iamlindoro:

same as every cablecard device with TWC

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iamlindoro:

For Comcast, FIOS, or RCN, it, the Prime, and the Ceton work great

[23:08:13]

pyther:

what is the deal with TWC and cable cards?

[23:08:26]

pyther:

They refuse to provide them?

[23:08:26]

iamlindoro:

They set all channels as copy-once or copy-none

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iamlindoro:

meaning you can't use them with MythTV

[23:08:42]

pyther:

eww yuck

[23:09:47]

pyther:

so that basically means that the stream can be received once and not passed on, correct?

[23:10:10]

iamlindoro:

It means the stream cannot be used, period, in MythTV

[23:10:36]

pyther:

why because myth can record it? I'm just trying to understand the techincal reasoning

[23:10:43]

iamlindoro:

CableCard tuners will not pass it to any application other than Windows Media Center if it's not Copy-freely

[23:10:52]

iamlindoro:

It's not a technical problem, it's a DRM problem

[23:11:09]

iamlindoro:

For a tuner to support CableCard, it must be authorized by CableLabs

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pyther:

ahh, so it the fault of the cable card manufactors then?

[23:11:26]

iamlindoro:

No, it's the fault of the cartifying body, which requires they follow their rules

[23:11:29]

iamlindoro:

er certifying

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pyther:

understandable, why is Windows Media Player given an exemption?

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sphery:

WMC follows the rules and has built-in DRM

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iamlindoro:

It's not an exception-- they pay the many millions of dollars for a playready license, which in turn allows them to capture the content, so long as they abide by the rules-- namely, the recordings are encrypted and only watchable on windows MCE

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sphery:

that's the whole reason Vista was so broken

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iamlindoro:

So you can't commercial skip, edit, transcode, copy, move, or otherwise use the recordings, other than to watch them in MCE

[23:13:01]

iamlindoro:

and for Copy-never content, it is only watchable within a window of 60 minutes of recording

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iamlindoro:

and then is destroyed

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sphery:

because MS had to change the entire hardware abstraction layer--which meant all driver vendors had to throw away all their code and rewrite everything from scratch--so that MS could get end-to-end DRM support into Windows to allow things like MCE + CableCARD

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sphery:

(and things like Blu-Ray/HD-DVD playback and ...)

[23:13:32]

iamlindoro:

Since MythTv imposes none of those restrictions, and has not paid millions for a PlayReady license, it cannot and will not ever support Copy-once or Copy-never content

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pyther:

make sense

[23:13:55]

pyther:

makes me hate the game even more

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sphery:

and even if we had millions, it's impossible to impose such restrictions in F/LOSS, so...

[23:14:16]

pyther:

more of reason to not even bother with anything other than OTA channels when I move out

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sphery:

+1

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sphery:

I dropped cable and satellite... I'm voting with my wallet

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iamlindoro:

Or move someplace where the provider is customer friendly

[23:15:01]

iamlindoro:

ie, Comcast, FIOS, or RCN territory, where I enjoy all my channels with my Cablecard tuner, no muss, no fuss

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sphery:

and when I convince 200 million of my closest friends to do the same, I'm sure the industry will rethink their DRM implementation/restrictions/requirements

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pyther:

iamlindoro: it's kinda interesting though since comcast has their bandwidth caps

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iamlindoro:

I don't have a bandwidth cap

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pyther:

iamlindoro: did they revote their caps?

[23:16:41]

iamlindoro:

I've never had a bandwidth cap

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pyther:

a while a back that was the big news thing

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iamlindoro:

You are likely thinking of another provider

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pyther:

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/08/it . . . ctober-1.ars

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pyther:

Is there a comcast outside of the states?

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iamlindoro:

No

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sphery:

I thought it only got so far as "limited market area" testing

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iamlindoro:

That said, the vast majority of legit users would have a very, very hard time using 250 GB a month

[23:18:12]

iamlindoro:

My entire office of 100 doesn't use 250 GB a month

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sphery:

yeah, I wouldn't come close to it--even with streaming pandora 24/7

[23:18:41]

sphery:

(and I don't use that much pandora by a long shot)

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pyther:

I've used over 100GB some months

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pyther:

Personally, I'm not fan of any bandwidth caps

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sphery:

perhaps now is the time for me to get vnstat installed on my systems so I can do real stats (just because I'm curious how much I use)

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pyther:

sphery: if you use openwrt, in the latest release (10.03.1) there is a real nice vnstat luci-app

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sphery:

yeah, I was wanting per-system and at-the-gateway stats

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pyther:

ahh makes sense

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sphery:

hehe, probably doesn't--it's kind of useless info, but I've been curious

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pyther:

kind a hard to filter internet traffic on a per system basis

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pyther:

since vnstat will collect all lan traffic

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pyther:

always cool to look at the numbers

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sphery:

mainly because I want to know exactly what I use so I have a better idea of just how much data is involved in the limits that mobile providers have

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pyther:

I got real close to use the 150GB ATT cap a few months

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sphery:

mainly for discussion purposes--since I don't have data plans

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pyther:

wireless data plans are crazy expensive

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sphery:

right, I want to know how much data goes into and out of each system

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sphery:

the gateway will give me internet traffic

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sphery:

(I only care about internet traffic as a combined total)

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pyther:

I should setup vnstat on my myth box

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pyther:

that'd be some interesting data

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sphery:

yeah, that's what I'm thinking

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sphery:

just curious info

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sphery:

and it's pretty low-resource, so, why not?

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pyther:

exactly

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