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| [06:06:09] | A200hrWonder: | I seem to be having a problem with QT crashing my mythfront end, the log shows ASSERT failure in QList<T>::operator[]: "index out of range", file /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qlist.h, line 464 |
| [06:06:09] | A200hrWonder: | Restarting mythfrontend.real... |
| [06:07:33] | A200hrWonder: | I have no idea where to start looking for a solution? I have done the update |
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| [06:16:06] | sphery: | A200hrWonder: that's most likely an issue with how MythTV is using the QList... We need a backtrace with debug symbols ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging ) to fix it |
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| [06:22:15] | A200hrWonder: | My internet connection is slow going to take a while to get the backtrace installed and I will go from there thanks sphery |
| [06:23:02] | sphery: | if you're using packages, the debug package should be relatively small |
| [06:32:15] | wagnerrp: | be the backtrace installed? |
| [06:32:21] | wagnerrp: | s/be/get/ |
| [06:35:01] | A200hrWonder: | 250MB download sphrey |
| [06:35:04] | A200hrWonder: | Just about done |
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| [06:45:47] | A200hrWonder: | OK I did all the debugging steps got the packing installed, and when it crashes I am not asked to submit a crash report |
| [06:49:24] | A200hrWonder: | Oops i found it |
| [06:50:04] | sphery: | if you can get the actual thread stack trace, you can just pastebin it and I will take a quick look at it |
| [06:51:23] | A200hrWonder: | Pastebin? |
| [06:51:47] | A200hrWonder: | Found that |
| [06:51:52] | wagnerrp: | pastebin.com |
| [06:54:48] | A200hrWonder: | Can't seem to copy the Thread Stack Trace from the Apport tool into Chrome... |
| [06:55:27] | A200hrWonder: | Is that in a log somewhere I can get it to copy? |
| [06:55:52] | wagnerrp: | you have it open in a terminal? |
| [06:56:15] | wagnerrp: | if you select content in the terminal, you can middle click to paste it anywhere you want |
| [06:57:47] | A200hrWonder: | No just the windows base |
| [06:57:52] | A200hrWonder: | I found where the file is |
| [06:57:58] | A200hrWonder: | So one sec jsut need to get to the right section |
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| [06:58:21] | wagnerrp: | windows base? |
| [06:59:15] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so, I'm watching the 1999 made-for-tv movie, Aftershock: Earthquake in New York. It has Narim, Martouf, and Maybourne in it, and I can't figure out why they haven't even shown the Stargate, yet--let alone Col O'Neill, Carter, Daniel, and Teal'c. |
| [07:00:21] | [R]: | lol |
| [07:00:23] | wagnerrp: | im guessing you still have it recorded from 12 years ago and are just now getting around to watching it? |
| [07:01:12] | sphery: | hehe, recorded it Aug 3, 2008, so I'm only 3 years and a couple months behind on watching my tv :) |
| [07:01:31] | A200hrWonder: | Nah Mac |
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| [07:05:24] | A200hrWonder: | http://pastebin.com/kijg8jS0 |
| [07:05:30] | A200hrWonder: | Took a while but I have it now! |
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| [07:06:19] | sphery: | A200hrWonder: and please pastebin the output of: mythfrontend --version |
| [07:09:48] | A200hrWonder: | http://pastebin.com/90ZYw6X3 |
| [07:10:00] | A200hrWonder: | I am using a fresh and clean install of mythbuntu |
| [07:12:18] | sphery: | your mythtv version is from Aug 27... |
| [07:12:32] | sphery: | I don't see any possible way you could get the error you're getting in current 0.24-fixes |
| [07:13:12] | A200hrWonder: | Great? well here is how it happened |
| [07:13:20] | sphery: | but don't see any changes since your version |
| [07:13:50] | sphery: | ah, I think I see what's happening |
| [07:14:18] | A200hrWonder: | I have a large DVD/BR collection I have ripped so I can take it with me when I travel on an external NAS. I out grew one so I split all the TV shows into a new one and just added a second sotrage group directory. |
| [07:14:33] | A200hrWonder: | When I do a scan for changes so I can access everything from the front end it blows up |
| [07:14:50] | wagnerrp: | blows up... how? |
| [07:15:07] | sphery: | Yeah, I know exactly what's happening |
| [07:15:13] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo hashes all new content to check for moved files |
| [07:15:22] | wagnerrp: | but the "hash" only encompasses the first and last 64KB |
| [07:15:30] | sphery: | you're also getting an error, "ERROR checking for file, filename '%1' fails sanity checks", right? |
| [07:15:34] | wagnerrp: | meaning it shouldnt take long to run even on relatively large libraries |
| [07:15:34] | A200hrWonder: | The front end crashes |
| [07:16:01] | A200hrWonder: | sphery – No I have not seen that error |
| [07:16:43] | sphery: | that's the only possible way I can see that QUERY_FILE_HASH will return an empty string list |
| [07:16:54] | sphery: | do you have logs from when it crashed? |
| [07:16:55] | A200hrWonder: | I did an rsync between the two NAS devices to move everything over, deleted from the old, added the storage groups to the backend and when I scan for new content this happens |
| [07:17:08] | sphery: | that would be an error in the backend log, I think |
| [07:17:11] | A200hrWonder: | I can make it crash everytime |
| [07:18:31] | sphery: | can you pastebin logs from around the crash |
| [07:18:45] | sphery: | (they're likely also available in the apport report thing) |
| [07:18:56] | A200hrWonder: | Sure I will crash it right now with a tail on it to get fresh data |
| [07:19:07] | sphery: | or if you tell it to go ahead and submit the crash, you can link me to the ubuntu bug report |
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| [07:21:14] | AndyCap: | haxx. http://www.virtuavia.eu/shop/pci-express-to-p . . . p29855.html, a tad expensive and not that many tuner cards are low profile. |
| [07:21:42] | A200hrWonder: | 404 AndyCap |
| [07:21:57] | sphery: | link works for me |
| [07:21:57] | A200hrWonder: | Oops added a comma at the end |
| [07:21:59] | AndyCap: | ooh, probably the comma at the end |
| [07:22:07] | sphery: | ah, but I didn't copy the comma |
| [07:22:09] | AndyCap: | my fault. |
| [07:22:48] | sphery: | definitely an interesting idea, but not one I'd want to trust for my mythtv boxes |
| [07:23:05] | AndyCap: | gnome-terminal's URL selection does the right thing though. |
| [07:23:10] | sphery: | I was nervous enough with a PCI SATA card (and that's not nearly as crazy) |
| [07:24:15] | AndyCap: | wonder if the pci bridge is a good one. |
| [07:25:44] | A200hrWonder: | http://pastebin.com/hSBjQbiD |
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| [07:25:47] | A200hrWonder: | Back end Crash |
| [07:26:01] | sphery: | that's new? |
| [07:26:05] | sphery: | the backend crash? |
| [07:26:12] | A200hrWonder: | Well the back end during a crash |
| [07:26:15] | A200hrWonder: | I should be more specific |
| [07:26:19] | sphery: | ah, ok |
| [07:26:32] | sphery: | yeah, not getting that errror... |
| [07:26:36] | A200hrWonder: | http://pastebin.com/VnWayjhZ |
| [07:26:40] | A200hrWonder: | And there is teh front end |
| [07:28:14] | sphery: | ok, so it looks like it's a socket error that's causing you to get an empty stringlist |
| [07:28:20] | sphery: | 2011-12–22 23:22:51.796 MythSocket(7f236c1c0710:27): readStringList: Error, timed out after 30000 ms. |
| [07:28:44] | sphery: | 2011-12–22 23:23:17.995 MainServer, Warning: Unknown socket closing MythSocket(0x7fe6a4003730) |
| [07:28:55] | sphery: | 2011-12–22 23:23:18.035 MythSocket(7fe6a4003730:-1): writeStringList: Error, socket went unconnected. We wrote 0 of 24 bytes with 1 errors |
| [07:29:05] | sphery: | so same result, but different reason |
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| [07:30:30] | A200hrWonder: | So is that the socket between frontend/backend on the local host? |
| [07:30:35] | sphery: | yeah |
| [07:32:26] | A200hrWonder: | Andy ideas on how to resolve that? |
| [07:33:05] | sphery: | so, I can put a patch in that will prevent this specific problem, but it will just mean that something else will fail when your frontend starts losing connections to the backend |
| [07:33:20] | sphery: | the patch will have to go to master, first, then get backported, later |
| [07:33:29] | sphery: | so it will be a week or so before it gets to 0.24-fixes |
| [07:34:02] | A200hrWonder: | OK it is not the end of the world, if it is not in the list I can walk over the wall-o-movies to watch it |
| [07:34:08] | A200hrWonder: | But that is so 2000! |
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| [07:35:59] | A200hrWonder: | Thanks for all your help I really apprciate it |
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| [07:42:53] | sphery: | wagnerrp: hehe, I just figured out that my test mythvideo directory doesn't work, anymore |
| [07:43:30] | sphery: | I just got a list of movies, changed spaces to _, and put a touch before the names and used it to build a directory of movies |
| [07:43:36] | sphery: | seems all my empty files have the same hash |
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| [07:57:10] | ** wagnerrp wonders why his comment is inciting a hardware flame war ** | |
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| [07:59:09] | sphery: | A200hrWonder: I'm probably going to push this change, tonight, then follow up with another dev, tomorrow and maybe make some similar changes in a few other places... There's a good chance they'll get backported to 0.24-fixes soon, so you should probably enable the 0.24-fixes repo on your system: http://mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [07:59:31] | sphery: | wagnerrp: you're just a jerk who won't let me run mythbackend on my pogoplug because you bought stock in Intel! |
| [08:00:22] | sphery: | and, "I've been using the [Crystal HD] card on an AM2+ board with integrated ATI HD3200 graphics." ... why? |
| [08:00:37] | sphery: | AM2+ board means a reasonable CPU that should be fine for software decode |
| [08:00:57] | sphery: | and whether using CHD or not, you're still using the ATI Xv graphics, likely |
| [08:01:05] | sphery: | (or maybe OpenGL, but only if you have sufficient CPU) |
| [08:01:25] | A200hrWonder: | sphery thanks for that I will enable the repo tomorrow |
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| [08:05:57] | dekarl: | sphery: he just doesnt want people to run mythtv on devices with names that sound like sex toys... bad image and such... But hey, at least your recordings end up on a (local) cloud storage extension and clouds are hip :) |
| [08:06:33] | sphery: | hehe, yeah |
| [08:06:52] | sphery: | clouds are so fluffy and cuddly |
| [08:07:31] | wagnerrp: | fluffy and cuddly? |
| [08:07:58] | wagnerrp: | http://www.g-news.ch/articles/nhp200nc/images/closeview.jpg |
| [08:08:30] | sphery: | hehe, a cloud computer |
| [08:08:35] | sphery: | now I know what they look like |
| [08:08:56] | sphery: | I almost want to make one |
| [08:09:22] | dekarl: | thats a pogoplug? |
| [08:09:56] | wagnerrp: | no, thats a cloud computer |
| [08:10:07] | sphery: | an NHP 200NC |
| [08:10:10] | sphery: | http://www.g-news.ch/articles/nhp200nc/ |
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| [08:10:35] | wagnerrp: | and a glorious passthrough voodoo card |
| [08:10:49] | sphery: | 200MHz Pentium MMX, so it's likely way too powerful for our users |
| [08:12:14] | dekarl: | And I thought thats a cloud computer http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/95/42/41/pipe_w11.jpg |
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| [08:13:16] | sphery: | wow, seems that cloud computer is going to use a lot more power |
| [08:13:32] | wagnerrp: | no, thats one of those old vacuum tube computers |
| [08:14:34] | sphery: | 31c69f707e4a3967 |
| [08:14:41] | sphery: | seems to be the hash of an empty file |
| [08:14:46] | wagnerrp: | 56a55d6c416af6b6a6d864 |
| [08:14:52] | sphery: | hehe |
| [08:15:07] | sphery: | are we speaking hashish? |
| [08:16:09] | dekarl: | I see, yes thats an old model, but they have miniaturization, too! http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/21668299 |
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| [08:22:16] | sphery: | ok, so actually, it seems that I'm getting null for 0-length file hashes (so my test dir actually works) |
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| [09:06:54] | sphery: | so, not going to fix this tonight |
| [09:07:17] | sphery: | it's on the todo list... when I fix the immediate problem, it causes a lot of other problems, since the code wasn't written to handle errors |
| [09:07:51] | sphery: | so, basically, at least as is, it crashes... with the fix for the immediate problem, it hangs forever |
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| [09:10:02] | sphery: | ok, not forever... until a timeout |
| [09:10:10] | sphery: | 30s /seemed/ like forever |
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| [16:23:18] | Seeker`: | Are there any known issues with getting trailers to play back before movies in 0.25? I can't find an option to play random trailers, I tried setting a specific trailer before a movie, clicked play and it doesn't show, and there doesn't appear to be a 'play with trailer' option any longer |
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| [16:46:29] | pyther: | Hello |
| [16:47:05] | pyther: | I have a digital tuner card that won't pick up any digital channels through my cable line. I was wondering, if I plug my digital cable into my OTA digital converter box, should I be able to pickup the local channels? |
| [16:48:43] | Seeker`: | hmm, found the trailer option, but it doesn't seem to play trailers, only the same episode of the big bang theory over and over |
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| [17:12:52] | sphery: | pyther: digital converter box takes digital signal and outputs analog signal... you'd want to plug the OTA cable directly into the digital tuner card |
| [17:13:23] | sphery: | pyther: and, with the exception of something like the HVR-2250, you don't want to use the garbage framegrabbers that most digital capture cards include |
| [17:13:57] | sphery: | (where framegrabbers are analog capture of SDTV... just dumps raw frames for the CPU to compress/encode to MPEG) |
| [17:14:32] | sphery: | HVR-2250 has a real MPEG-2 encoder for analog capture, as opposed to a cheap/useless framegrabber |
| [17:14:50] | sphery: | (but all analog capture is SDTV, except for HD-PVR, so...) |
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| [17:18:05] | pyther: | sphery: thanks, I'm trying to get clearQam to register on my tuner |
| [17:18:13] | pyther: | I've been unsuccessful |
| [17:18:24] | pyther: | I thought the OTA stuff was QAM, but it seems that I thought wrong |
| [17:26:00] | sphery: | ota is 8vsb |
| [17:26:13] | sphery: | output from digital converter box is ntsc |
| [17:26:19] | sphery: | (or baseband) |
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| [17:52:34] | Seeker`: | is there a switch I can pass to mythfrontend that will show which file it is trying to play as a trailer? |
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| [18:03:40] | dekarl: | huh, who uses .tp for their tv recordings? (source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC#TP ) |
| [18:04:58] | [R]: | wtf |
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| [18:05:20] | [R]: | what retard added that |
| [18:05:22] | [R]: | stupdi wikipedia |
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| [18:10:43] | dekarl: | [R]: its there but only in german methinks http://www.stupidedia.org/ ;) |
| [18:10:57] | wizbit: | i remember some of the nicks in this channel being here about 3–4 years ago lol |
| [18:11:26] | dekarl: | (obviously with some premium content where hitting the X is linked to popunder so I can enjoy it later) |
| [18:14:57] | sphery: | dekarl: Beyond TV |
| [18:16:16] | sphery: | of course, now that it's on wikipedia's ATSC page, it's official for everyone |
| [18:17:30] | [R]: | shouldn't it be ts? |
| [18:17:42] | sphery: | shouldn't file extension be meaningless? |
| [18:17:49] | sphery: | oh, wait, the rest of the world uses windows |
| [18:17:52] | [R]: | lol |
| [18:18:26] | sphery: | I've seen mts, m2ts, ts, ... |
| [18:18:56] | sphery: | tons of stuff, and it's all just a stupid 1983 approach to encoding metadata into file names |
| [18:19:16] | [R]: | lol |
| [18:20:25] | sphery: | seems JVC calls theirs TOD (for Transport stream On Disc) |
| [18:21:49] | sphery: | anyway, this has actually motivated me to log into wikipedia to put a complaint on the discussion page |
| [18:22:57] | [R]: | rofl |
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| [18:50:22] | sphery: | ok, I don't know how to properly comment in discussion, so I'm not submitting the comment |
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| [19:25:52] | Dorward: | Is there a means to set a channel as a favourite via mythweb? I've just tuned a Freesat card and I'd like to pick out the channels I care about with a UI I prefer. |
| [19:26:27] | sphery: | no, mythweb doesn't support channel groups |
| [19:26:36] | sphery: | you'll have to use mythfrontend |
| [19:27:14] | Dorward: | OK, thanks. |
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| [19:40:04] | danomac: | hi everyone. I've been using mythtv and scheduling stuff to record on my OTA setup |
| [19:40:48] | danomac: | i have one question, is there an easy way to skip ahead a week in the guide other than pressing the right arrow on the remote/keyboard eleventy billion times? |
| [19:41:44] | danomac: | using myth 0.23 |
| [19:53:59] | danomac: | nevermind, i eventually found it |
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| [19:56:54] | sphery: | hehe |
| [19:57:06] | sphery: | wonder if he found keys.txt or just randomly found the key |
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| [20:25:00] | Oleg_: | u think gtx 550 card is better than gt 220 card? |
| [20:26:28] | wagnerrp: | absolutely |
| [20:26:37] | wagnerrp: | but a 220 is sufficient |
| [20:26:50] | wagnerrp: | in mythtv's capability, a 550 doesnt get you much more than the 220 |
| [20:27:11] | wagnerrp: | the only difference in worth to mythtv is the ability to bitstream HD audio |
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| [20:50:40] | Oleg_: | 220 card is not able to bitstream hd audio? |
| [20:50:51] | Oleg_: | I think it has built-in audio capabilities |
| [20:51:12] | wagnerrp: | audio? yes... hd audio? no |
| [20:52:13] | AndyCap: | where do you get hd audio? blu-ray? |
| [20:53:13] | wagnerrp: | yes |
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| [21:24:13] | sphery: | Oleg_: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:HDAudioPassthrough |
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| [21:25:15] | keld_: | can I make text smaller? running mythtv 0.24 |
| [21:25:49] | sphery: | keld_: only HTML text (i.e. the INFO screen in Watch Recordings or any MythBrowser page) using zoom |
| [21:26:22] | sphery: | all other requires you to actually edit the theme to change the font /and/ change every single text area and label area to have sufficient space for the larger font |
| [21:26:44] | sphery: | or, better, just create a new theme that does things the way you want :) |
| [21:28:27] | keld_: | hmm, second question: can I remotely go in an control mythtv, like setting new programs to be recorded in a xterm window? Is there a xterm oriented theme? |
| [21:28:42] | sphery: | no, mythfrontend is graphical only |
| [21:29:08] | sphery: | there's mythweb, which provides something of a remote interface for scheduling and such, using html |
| [21:29:09] | keld_: | so could/should I create my own xterm oriented theme? |
| [21:29:34] | [R]: | it'd be more than a theme... it'd be a whole new program |
| [21:29:37] | keld_: | ok mythweb could be of help |
| [21:29:43] | sphery: | you would have to create a whole new client program that uses terminal type stuff (curses or whatever) |
| [21:30:14] | keld_: | I just want the text to be smaller... |
| [21:30:19] | sphery: | or would at the least have to create a whole new "painter" for mythui that uses terminal |
| [21:30:49] | [R]: | and throw in some libcaca while you are at it |
| [21:30:57] | sphery: | the best solution is to create a whole new theme |
| [21:31:20] | sphery: | as what you're actually saying is "I just want the text to be smaller [so I can fit more stuff on the screen at once]" |
| [21:31:30] | keld_: | yes |
| [21:31:44] | sphery: | and since the theme controls what's on screen and how big the text is, you'd need to change both parts--meaning you'd be better off just creating a new theme |
| [21:31:58] | sphery: | fwiw, we /really/ need more themes |
| [21:32:18] | sphery: | (and need complete themes versus "well, I'll just do this little bit that I use") |
| [21:32:31] | keld_: | I am just using my pc – and the text could be much smaller, so I could have a better overview of what is going on. |
| [21:33:07] | sphery: | yeah, ttbomk, all our themes are designed for the 10-foot (3-meter) user-interface |
| [21:33:20] | keld_: | ok, so how do I build a new theme? any howtos? |
| [21:33:24] | sphery: | none for the 2-foot (60-cm) UI |
| [21:34:01] | sphery: | if you do create a new one, feel free to mention it on list when you've got something to show for it and add it to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Theme_Teams if you'd like to get other people involved/on board |
| [21:34:20] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development is the official reference for theme development |
| [21:35:15] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/support/ mentiones MythTV-theming mailing list (which is more oriented to "how do I accomplish this one specific thing" rather than "can someone do a theme for me" :) |
| [21:35:20] | sphery: | as well as announcements and such |
| [21:35:49] | sphery: | see, also, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI , http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_XML_Examples , http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Demo_Theme |
| [21:37:02] | sphery: | and browsing the mythtv-theming list archive (at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/theming/ ), you can find quite a bit of good "getting started" type info (it's a relatively new list with low traffic, so you could look through all 6 pages of threads easily enough) |
| [21:37:52] | sphery: | also, make sure you check out the "online" downloadable themes in the Theme Chooser... Utilities/Setup|Setup|Theme Chooser, then use Menu to tell it to download a list of available themes |
| [21:38:00] | sphery: | there may be some that are closer to what you want |
| [21:40:09] | sphery: | keld_: oh, and I hope I haven't overwhelmed you :) |
| [21:43:09] | keld_: | sphery: well, I was somewhat prepared for a DIY answer |
| [21:43:53] | sphery: | I have a feeling that a lot of users would welcome a designed-for-the-desktop theme, too |
| [21:44:12] | sphery: | so if you're serious about it, you'll likely please a lot of people |
| [21:44:24] | sphery: | and might even be able to get them to help out/finally get this theme teams things going |
| [21:46:15] | keld_: | I think I did create my current installation from source – about 6 months ago. I did have to modify things a lot beac |
| [21:47:12] | keld_: | because of some tv drivers, could I work from that source tree, or do I need to install mythtv again from the newest sources? |
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| [21:47:59] | keld_: | ie: how much has changed in the themes source tree? |
| [21:48:34] | sphery: | you should be fine just using packages for 0.24-fixes |
| [21:49:03] | sphery: | there are a few mandatory changes/required elements you'll have to add for 0.25 before your theme will be usable with 0.25, but you could always do that when 0.25 is released |
| [21:49:15] | sphery: | and, since themes are just XML files, you don't need any source code at all (not even for themes) |
| [21:49:36] | keld_: | how much time would it take to make a new theme, for a somewhat inexperienced mythtv user like me? I do know how to program and I have hacked XML before |
| [21:49:38] | sphery: | the mythtv-themes repo/package is just a group of themes that users should never download/install |
| [21:49:55] | sphery: | instead, they should use the theme chooser to download the theme they want |
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| [21:50:18] | sphery: | to get a semi-functional theme shouldn't take too terribly long |
| [21:50:42] | sphery: | but to get a complete and consistent theme takes a /very/ long time (about a week more than forever) |
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| [21:51:20] | sphery: | best approach is to start out with a nearly empty theme and get the main menu squared away, then do the individual windows you use most as you use them |
| [21:51:44] | sphery: | until you add a window to your theme, it will fall back to the window definition in default or default-wide (depending on screen aspect) |
| [21:52:07] | keld_: | why not just take the theme I use now, and then hack it? |
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| [21:52:33] | sphery: | and, btw, MythCenter* is basically default/default-wide, so it's not critical to prevent fall back... some people actually choose to use default/default-wide through mythcenter |
| [21:52:44] | sphery: | mainly because if you do, you're inheriting all the problems with that theme |
| [21:52:53] | sphery: | and there are few themes that are designed properly |
| [21:53:04] | sphery: | IMHO, it's a /lot/ easier to build a new theme |
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| [21:53:33] | sphery: | than to unravel the brokenness of a different theme to try to figure out what they were thinking before you change it to make it do what you want |
| [21:53:39] | keld_: | what is mythweb? is it some apache driven interface to the db? |
| [21:54:08] | sphery: | mythweb is a php web app that talks to mythbackend and the database |
| [21:54:27] | sphery: | and, fwiw, it's basically being replaced, now, with a "built-in" web application |
| [21:54:46] | keld_: | is it just a package I can install? eg in mint? |
| [21:54:51] | sphery: | should be |
| [21:55:03] | sphery: | are you using mythbuntu repos? |
| [21:55:38] | sphery: | or just whatever version mint shipped when your mint version was released? |
| [21:56:33] | sphery: | http://mythbuntu.org/repos being the mythbuntu repos (and I have no idea how to enable/configure them on mint, but I've heard it's possible--and that the mythbuntu devs would be happy to make an "auto-configure" for mint if some mint users could provide the appropriate version-translation info) |
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| [21:57:16] | sphery: | anyway, I know for sure that mythbuntu has a package for mythweb |
| [21:57:30] | keld_: | I think I installed from svn |
| [21:57:39] | sphery: | git, you mean? |
| [21:57:41] | sphery: | I hope |
| [21:57:55] | sphery: | (we switched to git long ago, so the last svn revision is way out of date) |
| [21:58:04] | wagnerrp: | like over a year ago |
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| [21:58:55] | keld_: | I have mythtv installed on 3 pcs, one is mint, one is mandriva, one is compiled from svn – I think. My running versoin is the compiled stuff. |
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| [21:59:32] | wagnerrp: | if you have compiled from svn, then it is over a year out of date |
| [21:59:53] | keld_: | I dont remember if it was git or svn. I do remember I had to do git at some time, maybe this was it. |
| [22:00:00] | sphery: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac shows where to get the git stuff |
| [22:00:21] | sphery: | in the source dir, a svn info or git status would tell you |
| [22:00:29] | sphery: | (assuming you still have the source dir) |
| [22:00:38] | sphery: | actually, even mythfrontend --version should tell you |
| [22:00:57] | keld_: | library 0.24.20101129–1 |
| [22:01:05] | sphery: | mythtv version |
| [22:01:08] | sphery: | not library version |
| [22:02:00] | keld_: | mythfrontend --version did not really give me something useful |
| [22:02:09] | sphery: | pastebin it, please |
| [22:02:14] | sphery: | whole thing |
| [22:03:07] | keld_: | Please attach all output as a file in bug reports. |
| [22:03:07] | keld_: | MythTV Version : exported |
| [22:03:07] | keld_: | MythTV Branch : exported |
| [22:03:07] | keld_: | Network Protocol : 63 |
| [22:03:07] | keld_: | Library API : 0.24.20101129–1 |
| [22:03:07] | keld_: | QT Version : 4.7.3 |
| [22:03:09] | keld_: | Options compiled in: |
| [22:03:11] | keld_: | linux release using_alsa using_jack using_oss using_pulse using_pulseoutput using_backend using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_directfb using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend using_hdhomerun using_iptv using_joystick_menu using_libfftw3 using_lirc using_mheg using_opengl_video using_opengl_vsync using_qtdbus using_qtwebkit using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmc_vld using_xvmcw using_bindings_perl using_bindings_ |
| [22:03:16] | keld_: | python using_mythtranscode using_opengl using_vdpau using_ffmpeg_threads using_live using_mheg |
| [22:03:18] | sphery: | I'm guessing, though, you either have the 0.24 tarball or a 0.24/0.24-fixes git build |
| [22:03:23] | wagnerrp: | please dont do that |
| [22:03:29] | sphery: | pastebin meant: http://pastebin.com/ :) |
| [22:03:52] | keld_: | sorry for not doing correct pastebin |
| [22:03:54] | sphery: | anyway, your bulid script is broken and doesn't properly provide version info |
| [22:04:39] | sphery: | (which is true of many of the distros whose packagers are "less active" with mythtv...) |
| [22:05:07] | sphery: | but it's likely the 0.24 release tarball (to which we've added some 500+ bug fixes since release) |
| [22:05:29] | sphery: | or possibly a git pull from quite a while ago |
| [22:05:52] | sphery: | definitely before 0.24.1 |
| [22:06:30] | sphery: | using 0.24-fixes would be ideal--but it would likely require your figuring out how to enable the mythbuntu repos for you mint system (or compiling yourself) so you could have current 0.24-fixes on all |
| [22:06:53] | sphery: | but even if you don't, you should be good doing theme development with that... |
| [22:06:57] | keld_: | mythtv-frontend-0.24–0.5.svn.r27420 from pclinuxos |
| [22:07:15] | sphery: | ah, so that was the last rev in SVN, it seems |
| [22:08:59] | sphery: | [27420] |
| [22:08:59] | MythLogBot: | SVN 27420: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/3958daf4 |
| [22:09:27] | sphery: | which says your revision was done Dec 2, 2010--so just over a year old |
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| [22:10:30] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.24-fixes shows the fixes since then... you up through about #42 |
| [22:10:47] | sphery: | and there are another 330 listed (but that doesn't include fixes in Nov and Dec, yet) |
| [22:10:50] | keld_: | My developing machine is pclinuxos |
| [22:11:02] | keld_: | for this project |
| [22:11:10] | sphery: | anyway, theme wise, 0.24 is 0.24, so any would work for development |
| [22:11:24] | sphery: | it's mainly the other bugs that will could be problematic |
| [22:11:32] | keld_: | good |
| [22:12:09] | sphery: | anyway, good luck on the theme... again, I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in one designed for desktop/2-foot use |
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| [22:16:37] | ** wagnerrp uses computers with his hands, and wonders what apparatus sphery uses for foot control ** | |
| [22:24:55] | kormoc: | http://www.fentek-ind.com/FootPedal.htm |
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| [23:46:49] | wizbit: | Merry Mythmas |
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