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| [05:14:54] | wagnerrp: | mmm... banned before they could spam |
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| [06:29:14] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: weeee! http://www.mythtvtalk.com/free-guide-data-windows-15196/ |
| [06:31:02] | Shadow__X: | seriously? |
| [06:31:26] | wagnerrp: | im just waiting for someone to mention a certain piece of software... |
| [06:39:27] | styelz_: | lolz |
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| [06:47:27] | ** wagnerrp is amazed at someone wanting to pay $200 for a copy of Win7 Home Premium to get out of a $25/yr schedules direct membership ** | |
| [06:52:07] | Shadow__X: | not only that but schedules direct works. I dont eve think about the source data until i get the email topay for another year. Its that good |
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| [07:28:18] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: I have no idea what "beating the bush" is (guess its not political or something) but like 1 inch below that rant theres a bit fat "related topics, free guide data from microsoft" about it that got closed 2 years ago... Are the users not seeing that? |
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| [07:59:36] | ** dekarl dies... Some moderator has to approve my rant on not making fund of the land lord? What was all the register the email adress and captcha stuff good for? Oh man ** | |
| [07:59:47] | dekarl: | s/funds/fun/ |
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| [12:00:45] | tgoettlicher: | When zapping through the channels with the cursor keys while live-tv mythtv doesn't show all channels. |
| [12:01:10] | tgoettlicher: | If I type the channel number mythtv switchs to the channel. |
| [12:01:51] | tgoettlicher: | Who knows why some channels are missing when using the cursor keys? |
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| [12:16:49] | tgoettlicher: | Who knows why some channels are not shown in the live-tv's on-screen-display when I zapp using the cursor keys? |
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| [12:30:56] | goibhniu: | tgoettlicher: could it be that they aren't "visible"? |
| [12:31:26] | tgoettlicher: | goibhniu: sql "select visible from channel; " shows "1" for all channels. |
| [12:32:09] | goibhniu: | ok, sorry, I don't know so much about MythTV |
| [12:34:09] | tgoettlicher: | Well, all channels are marked as visible. They are shown in the "program guide" but while live-tv you have to type the channel number, using cursor key doesn't work. |
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| [14:07:11] | wagnerrp: | dekarl, "beating AROUND the bush" is slang for wasting a bunch of time dancing around the answer, but not just coming out and saying the answer |
| [14:07:31] | wagnerrp: | todd said "beat the bush" because todd is an idoit |
| [14:08:01] | wagnerrp: | who well into this year, was recommending that people continue to use 32-bit linux |
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| [14:08:29] | wagnerrp: | because somehow, he was incapable of making a 64-bit system run stably |
| [14:08:49] | wagnerrp: | im betting it was the ancient P4 he was trying to run on... |
| [14:10:06] | wagnerrp: | i swear, look through his forum posts |
| [14:10:30] | wagnerrp: | every 6 months or so, he decided to try amd64, fails, claims it sucks, and drops back to i686 |
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| [15:02:05] | justinh: | gah, seems like half the world has problems connecting to my home IP address – unfortunately the half one of my work's VLANs belongs to |
| [15:04:17] | justinh: | for some reason, being hooked into my phone over USB using the open wifi.. no problem |
| [15:04:26] | justinh: | over 3G.. no problem |
| [15:04:43] | justinh: | over the (allegedly unfiltered) LAN... quack quack oops |
| [15:05:51] | justinh: | also, checking with various worldwide traceroute test sites, seems most places can connect to my home IP just fine. But some (not in the UK) can't. Our network is stupid, methinks |
| [15:07:37] | justinh: | huh.. checking the site I run outside, seems half the USA can't get onto it. Must be some global routing snafu |
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| [16:07:50] | MrPaco: | hi all |
| [16:08:29] | MrPaco: | i`m looking at the guide of mythtv for translate some menus on mythtv |
| [16:12:22] | MrPaco: | mythtv its at 37% of translating to spanish, i have to help on this |
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| [16:17:17] | wagnerrp: | kenni, knightr: ^^^ |
| [16:18:16] | wagnerrp: | MrPaco: see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Translation#Transl . . . contributors |
| [16:20:03] | MrPaco: | i have read that and send a mail to the owner of spanish translation for help her |
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| [16:24:09] | wagnerrp: | 'her' being Antonio or David? |
| [16:24:15] | wagnerrp: | (both sound like men's names to me) |
| [16:25:13] | mazda01: | anyone in here familiar with a similar setup? XBMC 10.1 GIT:E9E9099, Mythtv 0.23.1+fixes and Mythbox 1.04 |
| [16:25:32] | mazda01: | all running on an apple tv |
| [16:25:42] | mazda01: | well, except MythTV obviously |
| [16:26:00] | wagnerrp: | except.. not mythtv, youre running xbmc |
| [16:26:17] | wagnerrp: | of course both of which are next to useless on an appletv |
| [16:26:34] | mazda01: | i understand this channel is for Mythtv, i was just trying to see if anyone ran a similar setup to possibly help. |
| [16:27:27] | mazda01: | i am attempting to replace my ancient original xbox which is modded with XBMC and runs the myth:// protocol WITH this new apple tv setup but I am FAILING hard |
| [16:28:10] | mazda01: | I understand if no one can assist as I am aware XBMC and Mythbox are not supported by the MythTV channel |
| [16:28:28] | mazda01: | just thought it couldn't hurt to ask |
| [16:28:40] | mazda01: | or maybe it could :-) |
| [16:28:53] | wagnerrp: | new appletv or old appletv? |
| [16:29:16] | mazda01: | old |
| [16:29:24] | wagnerrp: | not worth messing with |
| [16:29:40] | mazda01: | it it however running the latest OS 3.0.2 for it. |
| [16:29:54] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, may I ask why it's not worth it in your opinion? |
| [16:30:18] | wagnerrp: | even if it has enough graphical power to run XBMC's opengl UI |
| [16:30:26] | wagnerrp: | they no longer support that form of hardware decoding |
| [16:30:27] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i know the new apple tv is now $99 so if you can help me understand I could pop for the new apple tv 2 |
| [16:30:32] | wagnerrp: | meaning youre stuck CPU only |
| [16:30:49] | wagnerrp: | and youre not going to do much on a 1GHz Pentium M |
| [16:31:04] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i have no HD files to stream though. |
| [16:31:05] | wagnerrp: | standard definition MPEG2, and very low bitrate H264 |
| [16:31:37] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i still view xvid because currently the old xbox can't stream h264 codec, must be too much for the CPU. |
| [16:31:41] | wagnerrp: | two years after the transition and you still havent sprung for a digital tuner? |
| [16:32:05] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i don't have a lot of money rasising a wife and 2 kids. :-( |
| [16:32:16] | jduggan: | raising a wife, nice :D |
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| [16:32:23] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i still use 3 analog Haugpauge Tuners |
| [16:32:26] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, lol |
| [16:32:34] | mazda01: | jduggan, gotta raise her right ya know. LOL |
| [16:33:02] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, 2 years after the transition...........oh, referring to digital tv transmission? |
| [16:33:23] | wagnerrp: | actually the transition happened 6+ years ago in most markets |
| [16:33:29] | wagnerrp: | analog was just shut off two years ago |
| [16:33:40] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, yeah, when I get money i'll be getting a hdhomerun also. so you're saying the apple tv (old) just won't be able to stream those recorded shows? |
| [16:33:54] | wagnerrp: | neither can |
| [16:34:02] | wagnerrp: | the old one because its not powerful enough |
| [16:34:10] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, thats what I don't understand. I still get channel 3–99 on my PVR-350 and PVR-500 tuners |
| [16:34:30] | wagnerrp: | and the new one because apple locks down the capability of the hardware decoder for reasons unknown |
| [16:34:43] | wagnerrp: | xbmc only works because they hacked together support for some undocumented decoding api |
| [16:34:49] | mazda01: | and I don't even pay for cable. TWC never came out and put a filter on the line so I am guessing since I pay for internet service that the analog tv signal is still coming thru the line |
| [16:34:57] | wagnerrp: | there are no longer any analog broadcast stations |
| [16:35:02] | wagnerrp: | cable can do whatever they want |
| [16:35:13] | wagnerrp: | but they are rapidly dropping analog because it is expensive (in bandwidth) to run |
| [16:35:42] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, so you're saying 1 day i could turn on my tv's in my house and only get snow where as today I get 3–99 channels |
| [16:36:53] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, ok, in your opinion what is the best compact frontend for running XBMC/MythTV frontend? Do you have an opinion on that? |
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| [16:40:38] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, well, thanks for your time. You have helped a lot in the past. I recall your handle. |
| [16:41:22] | mazda01: | hope everyone has a good day |
| [16:41:27] | mazda01: | good bye |
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| [17:21:33] | wagnerrp: | mazda01: i honestly dont have an opinion on anything xbmc, since i dont use it |
| [17:21:50] | wagnerrp: | for mythtv, a little athlon II or i3 mini-itx system |
| [17:22:01] | wagnerrp: | with an nvidia card |
| [17:26:07] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, is that more or less then an apple tv 2 do you know? |
| [17:26:46] | wagnerrp: | more in every sense of the term |
| [17:27:32] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i haven't used a mythtv frontend in forever so i'll re-look at the improvements as far as flashy interface etc. |
| [17:28:18] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, or maybe i can make the mythtv theme be similar to XBMC, i just love it's interface and how easy and intuitive it is to use. then again, I have been using it FOREVER. |
| [17:29:49] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, ok, i'll look into the i3 mini-itx. I just really have no money and I get hand me downs from my father the apple man. just trying to utilize hardware I have is all. |
| [17:30:08] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i appreciate your honesty about XBMC |
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| [17:33:17] | wagnerrp: | a mini-itx system with a proper processor is going to cost around $250 |
| [17:33:33] | wagnerrp: | you can do it a bit cheaper with more common, but larger, micro-atx parts |
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| [17:55:07] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: i demand mythtv abuse ID3 tags to my liking! |
| [17:56:20] | MrPaco: | whats option to transcode uses the people more common |
| [17:56:34] | MrPaco: | i`m testing some options but dont work very well |
| [17:56:52] | wagnerrp: | most people just use the lossless mpeg2->mpeg2 transcode |
| [17:56:59] | wagnerrp: | that doesnt do much besides clip out the commercials |
| [17:57:18] | MrPaco: | i have to do it before to flag? |
| [17:57:50] | wagnerrp: | commercial flagging creates a skiplist, while clipping in mythtranscode uses a cutlist |
| [17:58:18] | wagnerrp: | they are intentionally kept independent as the flagger is not reliable enough to clip recordings without checking the results first |
| [17:58:29] | MrPaco: | my englihs is a little low when we speak about that job |
| [17:58:29] | wagnerrp: | play a recording, hit 'e' to enter edit mode |
| [17:58:40] | wagnerrp: | and add cut points as you see fit |
| [17:58:50] | wagnerrp: | note that the lossless transcoder only works with mpeg2 content |
| [17:58:57] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, and that type of hardware frontend for mythtv will be able to stream the files created IF in the future owned a HDHomeRun? |
| [17:58:59] | MrPaco: | ok |
| [17:58:59] | wagnerrp: | if you have h264 recordings, it will not work |
| [17:59:19] | MrPaco: | this is the problem |
| [17:59:33] | MrPaco: | each channel uses different codec |
| [17:59:45] | MrPaco: | some channel uses mpeg2 another h264... |
| [17:59:55] | MrPaco: | on spain this is very crazy |
| [17:59:59] | wagnerrp: | mazda01: pretty much any Athlon II or Core iN chip will handle it |
| [18:00:15] | wagnerrp: | excluding the ultra low power <1.5GHz versions |
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| [18:09:31] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, and there's no piece of already built hardware like that on the market currently that can be hacked and install Linux on it? |
| [18:10:13] | wagnerrp: | an older mac-mini with nvidia graphics |
| [18:10:26] | wagnerrp: | or one of the asrock vision systems |
| [18:10:47] | wagnerrp: | or just any bog standard (not atom/fusion) PC these days |
| [18:11:01] | wagnerrp: | a standard desktop from five years ago has enough power for HD mpeg2 playback |
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| [18:25:21] | Twiggy2cents: | what would be a good audio codec for transcoding videos? copy? |
| [18:25:43] | wagnerrp: | that depends entirely on why you are transcoding videos |
| [18:26:22] | Twiggy2cents: | I am still working on ways to store my dvds on the computer. It will take up too much room to just dump them so I decided to try the transcode route |
| [18:26:37] | wagnerrp: | too much room? |
| [18:26:46] | wagnerrp: | youre talking maybe 6GB per movie |
| [18:27:03] | wagnerrp: | thats ~350 on a single 2TB drive |
| [18:27:48] | Twiggy2cents: | Okay, fine... |
| [18:28:14] | wagnerrp: | the problem with ISOs is more the exceedingly long startup time over storage groups |
| [18:28:18] | Twiggy2cents: | If a disc were unencrypted I could just copy the disc to the mythtv video sg and it would work right? |
| [18:28:23] | wagnerrp: | but apparently that has been very recently fixed on trunk |
| [18:28:41] | wagnerrp: | ISO or VIDEO_TS folder, either will work |
| [18:28:54] | Twiggy2cents: | Okay, I will try that |
| [18:29:40] | Twiggy2cents: | What is the audio_ts actually used for? |
| [18:30:04] | Twiggy2cents: | Bundled songs? |
| [18:30:22] | Twiggy2cents: | I have never seen any audio tracks in there |
| [18:30:39] | wagnerrp: | DVD Audio |
| [18:30:49] | wagnerrp: | its a relatively failed alternative to CDs |
| [18:30:53] | Twiggy2cents: | Ohh |
| [18:31:11] | wagnerrp: | would have been high resolution, high frequency lossless audio |
| [18:32:31] | Twiggy2cents: | Then they realized that most people dont care about the quality of their 128kbs or lower mp3? |
| [18:32:56] | wagnerrp: | they realized most people dont have stereo systems to make use of better quality than cd audio |
| [18:33:37] | wagnerrp: | or music producers who would get out of the way of studio engineers and allow for better quality than cd audio |
| [18:34:06] | Twiggy2cents: | Speaking of stereo systems... Holy Crap that Beats stuff is way too expensive. $100 for ear buds, I didnt see what it costs for the normal headphones. |
| [18:34:54] | wagnerrp: | who cares about all that dynamic range of 24-bit audio when it all gets compressed into the top 8-bits by music producers wanting louder albums |
| [18:35:06] | wagnerrp: | 256 levels are enough for anyone! |
| [18:35:20] | Twiggy2cents: | lol |
| [18:35:25] | wagnerrp: | $100 for ear buds are ridiculous |
| [18:35:33] | wagnerrp: | $10 for ear buds are a bit much |
| [18:35:46] | wagnerrp: | but ear buds are far different from in ear monitors |
| [18:36:03] | wagnerrp: | ear buds are the little bits of garbage that rest on your ear lobes |
| [18:36:20] | Twiggy2cents: | In their defense, I have listened to music with their normal headphones and it is very good quality. But way too much money still |
| [18:36:32] | wagnerrp: | in ear monitors are the things with rubber seals that you stuff into your ear canals |
| [18:37:26] | Twiggy2cents: | http://www.google.com/products/catalog?pq=%24 . . . 0CN4BEPMCMAc |
| [18:37:49] | Twiggy2cents: | I guess it is technically an in ear monitor setup then |
| [18:38:00] | wagnerrp: | well, its also monster |
| [18:38:15] | wagnerrp: | meaning those same things would cost $25 from any other manufacturer |
| [18:38:58] | Twiggy2cents: | $150 for the cheap normal headphones and ~230(+-20) for the higher end ones |
| [18:39:02] | Twiggy2cents: | That is way too much |
| [18:39:20] | Twiggy2cents: | http://www.google.com/products/catalog?pq=%24 . . . 0CPgBEPMCMAk |
| [18:39:22] | Twiggy2cents: | The best ones yet |
| [18:40:39] | wagnerrp: | im sure those are perfectly decent headphones |
| [18:40:56] | wagnerrp: | but about $300 of that price is because they say Monster and Dr. Dre |
| [18:41:02] | Twiggy2cents: | For $400 they better be! |
| [18:41:12] | Twiggy2cents: | Yeah monster is a joke. |
| [18:41:49] | Twiggy2cents: | I went out in the mess today. They had a deal on a 3ft Monster HDMI cable, ~$16. |
| [18:42:01] | wagnerrp: | hey now, monster makes sure you have a best buy to look at tvs at in store |
| [18:42:03] | Twiggy2cents: | Normal like $30 or something |
| [18:42:22] | wagnerrp: | that one $100 monster cable gets them about as much margin as half a dozen playstations |
| [18:42:43] | Twiggy2cents: | Yeah, that is why I shop with monoprice! |
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| [18:44:02] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: you know anything about mythweb not working with php 5.4? |
| [18:46:52] | kormoc: | I saw the post. I believe it's because he has deprecated as a fatal level, but I'm not sure. It'd be easy enough to fix once I find the time |
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| [18:57:22] | Twiggy2cents: | lol sneaky dvd people. I was trying to copy a dvd and it copied fine, but the ts ifo file is bad. Loading the TS.vob shows a intro and then this kid coming up on the screen, sorta like hes on a trampoline. That plays looped over and over. |
| [18:57:34] | Twiggy2cents: | Myth gets mad saying that the ifo file is bad |
| [18:59:49] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i have been seeing streaming devices everywhere no days from compainies like Western Digital, RCA, and others |
| [19:00:35] | mazda01: | Twiggy2cents, couldn't you rebuild the ifo file? |
| [19:00:55] | Twiggy2cents: | I really have no clue what the ifo file is. |
| [19:01:13] | Twiggy2cents: | Well I have an idea of what it does, but not how it does or whats inside of it |
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| [19:08:18] | kormoc: | It's all ones and zeros man, all ones and zeros... |
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| [19:58:58] | justinh: | ifo files are basically just about disc contents & navigation |
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| [20:32:15] | dougl: | what do I need to install in ubuntu 10.10 to run mythfronent? |
| [20:32:23] | dougl: | what do I need to install in ubuntu 10.10 to run mythfronend? |
| [20:33:17] | wagnerrp: | mythtv |
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| [20:39:37] | dougl: | ty |
| [20:39:53] | wagnerrp: | i likely am not understanding the question |
| [20:40:33] | dougl: | or more closely to the truth – am I asking silly questions ;) |
| [20:40:40] | laga: | yes |
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| [21:27:11] | dougl: | I have confiured a Photos directory with my mythtv – err how do I find them now? |
| [21:27:25] | [R]: | mythgallery |
| [21:27:41] | dougl: | mythgallery – thanks :) |
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| [21:37:06] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: thanks, dict.leo.org already explained it nicely to me. Still bugs me a bit that I'm in the moderation queue in a way that it appears like the post is gone without any hint on "awainting moderation" or "post denied for <reason>" or anything. (Or did I dream that and the internet ate it? who knows) |
| [21:37:26] | wagnerrp: | moderation... at mythtvtalk? |
| [21:37:59] | dekarl: | yeah, I replied pointing out that they should open their eyes and stop making fun of devs and mods and got some "this'n'that moderation" message that I can't remember |
| [21:38:36] | wagnerrp: | probably only matters for the first couple messages |
| [21:40:45] | dekarl: | That's what I think, too. But what a lousy idea of yet another hoop to jump trough :( It's not as if I've already had captchas and mail verification at that point (and recaptcha actually being quite good at it) |
| [21:42:32] | dekarl: | Hmm, been ranting about bad user interaction to much this week at work. Maybe I've got my nerves on the edge on such topics... |
| [21:43:47] | wizbit_: | this is what happens when i boot my joggler with slackware: http://imageshack.us/f/820/img1637pe.jpg/ |
| [21:44:08] | wagnerrp: | hehehe |
| [21:44:12] | wagnerrp: | "Trouble ahead" |
| [21:44:13] | wizbit_: | the fstab and initrd look ok |
| [21:44:15] | wagnerrp: | woderful... |
| [21:44:36] | wizbit_: | sda3 was used when it was running ubuntu |
| [21:45:43] | wagnerrp: | it probably still is |
| [21:46:00] | wagnerrp: | boot/swap/root is a common partition layout in modern distros |
| [21:46:16] | wagnerrp: | but your initrd does not appear to have a /mnt path for it to mount to |
| [21:46:25] | wagnerrp: | so it doesnt get mounted |
| [21:46:36] | wagnerrp: | and your initrd has no error checking to fault out |
| [21:46:45] | wagnerrp: | causing pivot_root to tail |
| [21:46:46] | wagnerrp: | fail |
| [21:47:25] | wizbit_: | wagnerrp: i need to create a /mnt path in the initrd fstab? |
| [21:47:34] | wizbit_: | if it has one |
| [21:47:39] | wagnerrp: | no, you need to create a /mnt in the initrd |
| [21:47:47] | wizbit_: | oh im sure its got one |
| [21:47:51] | ** wizbit_ checks ** | |
| [21:47:59] | wagnerrp: | clearly not, based off the error |
| [21:48:33] | wizbit_: | /tmp/joggler/boot/initrd-tree/mnt |
| [21:48:38] | wizbit_: | it exists! |
| [21:48:42] | wizbit_: | but there is nothing inside it |
| [21:52:52] | dougl: | netflix is no longer supported in mythth on ubuntu? |
| [21:53:25] | wagnerrp: | dougl: im going to say that is completely false |
| [21:54:14] | wagnerrp: | mere semantics, netflix was never supported in mythtv on ubuntu |
| [21:56:22] | dougl: | err – does that mean netflix will not work? I am reading a howto that says it does? |
| [21:57:19] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:58:24] | dougl: | c'mon... dumb it up for the guy thats half in the bag on friday afternood :) |
| [21:58:32] | dougl: | noon |
| [21:59:00] | [R]: | [03:54:13] +wagnerrp mere semantics, netflix was never supported in mythtv on ubuntu |
| [21:59:04] | [R]: | how much more dumb can we get? |
| [21:59:57] | dougl: | ok – I should interpret not supported to not functional... thank you :) |
| [22:00:52] | dougl: | too bad tho... it also said could access mythtv from ps3 – also false? |
| [22:01:01] | wagnerrp: | through UPnP, yes |
| [22:01:07] | wagnerrp: | but there is no live transcoding at current |
| [22:01:20] | wagnerrp: | meaning your content must exist on disk in a format the PS3 can understand |
| [22:01:23] | AndyCap: | works ok for me recording from DVB |
| [22:01:43] | wagnerrp: | digital recordings in a TS container should work fine |
| [22:02:02] | dougl: | very good – thanks alot for all the info. |
| [22:02:34] | wagnerrp: | dougl: if you were referring to 'mythflix', that was just a crude list to allow you to manage your netflix queue |
| [22:02:48] | wagnerrp: | it had nothing to do with netflix instant |
| [22:03:10] | wagnerrp: | netflix requires silverlight, which is not available on linux |
| [22:03:15] | wagnerrp: | only OSX and Windows |
| [22:03:35] | wagnerrp: | in theory, you could use it with one of those, but mythnetvision does not currently have cookie or login support |
| [22:04:08] | dougl: | wagnerrp, yeah – thats what confused me... thanks, that clears up alot. |
| [22:04:51] | dougl: | myth ported to osx? |
| [22:05:13] | wagnerrp: | ported? no |
| [22:05:20] | wagnerrp: | the main repository compiles directly on OSX |
| [22:05:35] | wagnerrp: | you dont have to use an independent port |
| [22:05:45] | dougl: | ok |
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| [22:23:53] | ptheberge_: | Hi, I've setup this mythtv-frontend installation on my laptop and I'm trying to have it connect to a backend server I have home, however, the main window won't open: http://pastebin.com/MzQzFzj9 |
| [22:23:54] | ptheberge_: | Any idea? |
| [22:25:48] | [R]: | thers no errors there... |
| [22:26:37] | ptheberge_: | Indeed, why wouldn't the window show, then? |
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| [22:34:09] | ptheberge_: | No one? I'm using Gnome Shell... any chance it might have a role? |
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| [22:34:20] | wagnerrp: | gnome doesnt have a shell |
| [22:34:36] | [R]: | wagnerrp: the name is called "gnome shell" |
| [22:34:43] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell |
| [22:35:33] | wagnerrp: | so by 'shell', they mean something completely different from terminal shells |
| [22:35:39] | kormoc: | yes |
| [22:35:45] | kormoc: | by shell, they mean window manager |
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| [22:36:12] | ** wagnerrp loves it when people blur the meaning of names ** | |
| [22:38:05] | ptheberge_: | Is there any more hardcore debugging than -v all, so that I have a clue of what's going on? |
| [22:39:15] | [R]: | what does the backend say |
| [22:39:49] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, like lineup :) |
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| [22:41:00] | sphery: | ptheberge_: use default logging and re-post yourlog output, please |
| [22:41:28] | ptheberge_: | sphery, you mean without the -v? |
| [22:41:35] | sphery: | yes |
| [22:41:54] | ** sphery bets this is another, "I'll just tell MythTV to connect to MySQL using the MythTV port" issue ** | |
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| [22:42:08] | ptheberge_: | server says that: http://pastebin.com/A7tzWdQf |
| [22:42:26] | sphery: | it's definitely a frontend config issue |
| [22:42:59] | sphery: | 2011-11–25 17:11:04.966 (old)Settings::ReadSettings(/home/pier-luc/.mythtv/mysql.txt) – 'DBPort' = '6543'. |
| [22:43:02] | ptheberge_: | sphery: front-end without verbosity: http://pastebin.com/q5fJDGNQ |
| [22:43:05] | sphery: | yes, definitely that's it |
| [22:43:16] | ptheberge_: | What's wrong with it? |
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| [22:43:30] | kormoc: | MySQL runs on 3306, 6543 is the backend port |
| [22:43:31] | sphery: | DBPort means the port to use to connect to MySQL database |
| [22:43:32] | wagnerrp: | your database does not live on port 6543 |
| [22:43:44] | sphery: | wagnerrp: again, /me wonders why so many people configure like this |
| [22:43:49] | ptheberge_: | oh.... |
| [22:43:54] | kormoc: | sphery, one port to rule them all? |
| [22:44:01] | sphery: | ptheberge_: did you type in 6543 or did that come from a broken distro config/package? |
| [22:44:19] | ** wagnerrp watches a pack of hairy-footed midgets scurry past kormoc ** | |
| [22:44:27] | ptheberge_: | I probably typed it in when I got a prompt from myth because database was not accessible from lan |
| [22:44:39] | wagnerrp: | hey! who left the door open? |
| [22:44:45] | sphery: | ptheberge_: the value should be 0 for 0.24-fixes |
| [22:44:49] | sphery: | i.e "use the default" |
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| [22:45:12] | ptheberge_: | Hm |
| [22:45:14] | ptheberge_: | That started |
| [22:45:16] | ptheberge_: | And then: |
| [22:45:29] | ptheberge_: | QMutex::lock: mutex lock failure: Argument invalide |
| [22:45:34] | ptheberge_: | Followed by: Erreur de segmentation |
| [22:45:45] | ptheberge_: | (That could be translated by Invalid argument and Segmentation error) |
| [22:45:50] | sphery: | I'm seriously considering writing code to detect a Qt-MySQL driver request on MythTV's ports and then give an error message |
| [22:46:13] | sphery: | ptheberge_: please post whole frontend log file from attempted start |
| [22:46:15] | sphery: | (to pastebin) |
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| [22:47:01] | ptheberge_: | full log of the front-end: http://pastebin.com/7YFZN6jm |
| [22:47:06] | ptheberge_: | Apparently some theme missing.... |
| [22:48:11] | sphery: | you still have 0.23 themes installed--they need to be uninstalled |
| [22:48:32] | sphery: | you may well also have 0.23 libraries installed--which may be causing you to get a segfault when using a mix of 0.23 and 0.24 code |
| [22:48:36] | ptheberge_: | That's the basic ubuntu package installation... |
| [22:48:44] | sphery: | how did you install? |
| [22:48:50] | sphery: | so, ubuntu packages |
| [22:48:54] | ptheberge_: | sudo apt-get install mythtv-frontend |
| [22:49:03] | sphery: | I think you need to uninstall some of them (like myththemes or whatever they call it) |
| [22:49:06] | sphery: | and possibly others |
| [22:49:17] | sphery: | was this an upgrade or a first-time-on-this-system install? |
| [22:49:47] | ptheberge_: | first-time install |
| [22:50:18] | sphery: | then probably not mixed-version libs |
| [22:50:59] | ptheberge_: | would a dpkg-reconfigure help? |
| [22:51:06] | Muzer: | OK. I'm in the UK, and I can receive terrestrial and satellite on my computer. I finally got around to setting up mythtv to properly use it. After half a day of work, I've got everything scanned. So, what next? First of all, it'd be nice if it could use the compressed Freesat EPG info – is support for that available out of the box, or do I have to set something up? (I haven't really tested yet) |
| [22:51:33] | sphery: | ptheberge_: not sure... without seeing a backtrace of the segfault, I'd only be guessing |
| [22:51:56] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging , fwiw |
| [22:53:41] | ptheberge_: | Installing in progress |
| [22:57:57] | ptheberge_: | sphery, should I send the bug report, or would you rather need some part of it on a pastebin? |
| [22:59:10] | Muzer: | OK. First of all, is there a way to set a preferred frequency for EIT data grabbing? The Freesat Home transponder sends EIT data significantly faster than any other, so I'd like to choose this one if it's possible. Is it? |
| [22:59:44] | sphery: | ptheberge_: could start with posting the gdb output to pastebin |
| [23:02:27] | ptheberge_: | sphery: Hm... looks like I can't copy-paste that, am I mistaken? |
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| [23:03:21] | ptheberge_: | Does it reside in some kind of file? |
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| [23:12:15] | ptheberge_: | So... I have a different error now that I installed mythtv-themes... |
| [23:12:40] | ptheberge_: | There's no meta-package for a front-end under Ubuntu apparently... |
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