| Sunday, October 30th, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:30] | wagnerrp: | i mean ive used Macs before, but i dont recall any kind of horizontal lines in it |
| [00:00:53] | sphery: | I can't even see the detail page for the recording in mythweb |
| [00:03:10] | iamlindoro: | He means like running an emulated game with old interlaced monitor emulation |
| [00:03:17] | iamlindoro: | or an ancient gamer of pac man |
| [00:03:33] | iamlindoro: | there are literally horizontal rows between every pixel |
| [00:04:50] | iamlindoro: | http://www.emphatic.se/SLG3000/ketsui_mame2.jpg bottom versus top |
| [00:06:12] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [00:07:21] | iamlindoro: | In the above example, the monitor is rotated because the game in question is a top-down shooter with a vertical orientation |
| [00:07:28] | iamlindoro: | but generaly speaking those rows are horizontal |
| [00:11:41] | sphery: | OK, had to manually use mythxml to grab a shot of it--unfortunately there's some moire effects, but you can kind of see it... http://imagebin.org/181508 |
| [00:12:17] | plut0: | anyone use USB-UIRT? |
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| [00:13:16] | sphery: | ah, great... the screenshot locked up my frontend |
| [00:13:53] | iamlindoro: | mythxml, meh |
| [00:14:04] | iamlindoro: | Silly stable user ;) |
| [00:14:10] | sphery: | no, it was the frontend's TV Playback|SCREENSHOT binding that killed it |
| [00:14:44] | sphery: | (markk combined SCREENSHOT binding and ScreenShot jumppoint so the binding no longer exists--meaning we don't have to fix it) |
| [00:15:04] | sphery: | but the jump point just gives me blackness |
| [00:15:27] | sphery: | because I'm using vdpau rendering |
| [00:15:34] | ** sphery switches to xv to get a real screenshot ** | |
| [00:16:05] | iamlindoro: | also not a problem in master |
| [00:16:13] | iamlindoro: | (meaning you can use VDPAU and get a screenshot) |
| [00:16:42] | sphery: | cool... glad he fixed that |
| [00:17:38] | wagnerrp: | trix are for unstable users? |
| [00:20:47] | ** iamlindoro counts on the screenshot capability for use in the app that runs on the excessively expensive thing that nobody could possibly have a use for ** | |
| [00:20:47] | sphery: | OK, finally... http://imagebin.org/181509 |
| [00:21:22] | sphery: | iamlindoro: hehe, but at least your app does it right--using services, etc., rather than using libcmyth or direct db access or ... |
| [00:21:39] | iamlindoro: | or god forbid, the control socket like most do |
| [00:21:45] | sphery: | hehe, yeah |
| [00:21:53] | iamlindoro: | The app uses Services on the BE and the new FEXML control on the FE |
| [00:22:02] | sphery: | but since so many people have ipads, it's good to support them |
| [00:22:38] | sphery: | we should call that "Iron XML" (like Fe) |
| [00:22:47] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [00:23:15] | iamlindoro: | Mark had mentioned converting it to use services as a starting point recently |
| [00:23:19] | iamlindoro: | which would be nice for consistency |
| [00:23:30] | sphery: | wow, amazing how long it took me to remember just which parts worked and which didn't (and which required which renderers, etc.) with the screensaver |
| [00:23:46] | sphery: | at least it should be simple for a user to figure out... |
| [00:23:49] | sphery: | oh, wait... |
| [00:24:20] | sphery: | wagnerrp: you had better look at that image ( http://imagebin.org/181509 ) after all the trouble I went through to get it... ;) |
| [00:24:29] | iamlindoro: | I already gave him an example ;) |
| [00:24:36] | iamlindoro: | You could have just said "yeah, just like that" |
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| [00:25:24] | wagnerrp: | but im in the middle of getting my evil clone killed off, so the world thinks im dead and my heat level goes down |
| [00:25:48] | wagnerrp: | you know, i hadnt even noticed that they had done that on terra nova |
| [00:25:49] | ** iamlindoro wonders if this is a RockStar game ** | |
| [00:25:52] | sphery: | locked up my frontend with TV Playback|SCREENSHOT, then had to switch to Xv renderer for ScreenShot jump point, then had to open the image in GIMP and scale it back down to 1280x720 (screenshot jump point makes it same size as the displayed screen, so 1920x1080), and compress it (jump point uses uncompressed PNG for "performance"--and 6MB files) |
| [00:26:25] | sphery: | yeah, they do that on all the high-tech monitors... even did it on new Star Trek series |
| [00:26:36] | wagnerrp: | nah, elixer |
| [00:26:36] | sphery: | I just don't get it |
| [00:26:39] | wagnerrp: | Evil Genius |
| [00:26:42] | iamlindoro: | So, Grimm was pretty good, I thought |
| [00:26:56] | sphery: | why would they think it's more high tech than the video that actually looks good--and that people get today |
| [00:27:04] | sphery: | iamlindoro: nice... I'm looking forward to that one |
| [00:27:23] | wagnerrp: | its like 'SimLair' or something... |
| [00:27:24] | sphery: | I love the "respin old mythology/folklore/fairy tales/..." approach |
| [00:27:38] | iamlindoro: | Both that and Once Upon a Time are similar, and both good in their own ways |
| [00:27:58] | wagnerrp: | you build an evil lair underground on an uncharted island base |
| [00:28:08] | wagnerrp: | recruit and train minions |
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| [00:28:16] | wagnerrp: | perform evil deeds out in the world |
| [00:28:17] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Yeah, sounds vaguely familiar |
| [00:28:28] | wagnerrp: | eventually, build a rocket to launch a satellite that destroys the world |
| [00:28:40] | sphery: | iamlindoro: did you watch Once Upon a Time? seems to have a similar idea? |
| [00:29:11] | iamlindoro: | sphery: yes, similar... Grimm has a darker feel, OUAT could go either way... both show promise but only time will tell whether they're actually watchable |
| [00:30:08] | sphery: | ahh... cool. I have a feeling darker will take more viewers |
| [00:30:12] | sphery: | (which works by me :) |
| [00:34:48] | wagnerrp: | yes, because if you make something cheerful and colorful to contrast with very dark undertones, viewers wont understand it, and you will get canceled after two short seasons |
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| [00:37:42] | sphery: | isn't there a channel rule about how you aren't allowed to reference Daisies, any more, out of respect for the unjustly cancelled? |
| [00:38:01] | wagnerrp: | hehe |
| [00:39:59] | iamlindoro: | Amusingly, I saw echos of it in both shows, but refrained from saying so |
| [00:41:01] | sphery: | oh, great, now both will be cancelled |
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| [01:19:00] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: you still around? |
| [01:21:13] | wagnerrp: | i was looking into this... http://www.mythtvtalk.com/mythvidexport-py-failing-15137 |
| [01:21:52] | wagnerrp: | and found that tmdb.py keeps getting errors, and returning something similar to -8601 format for 'lastupdated', rather than -822 format |
| [01:25:15] | iamlindoro: | I am around |
| [01:25:24] | iamlindoro: | Though I don't know much about tmdb.py's date transform |
| [01:25:40] | iamlindoro: | API error? Have you looked at the raw XML versus another API request? |
| [01:26:26] | wagnerrp: | i know in the past, the transform was done in XSL, which may as well be gibberish to me |
| [01:26:36] | wagnerrp: | i can look into the api calls to see what is being returned |
| [01:26:52] | wagnerrp: | seems it is only a problem with items updated in the past few days |
| [01:27:12] | iamlindoro: | sounds like an API thing to me if that's so |
| [01:27:17] | wagnerrp: | from "tmdb.py -M 'The Dark Knight'" |
| [01:27:35] | wagnerrp: | TDK and TDKR have been updated in the past two days and show the issue |
| [01:27:56] | wagnerrp: | while some post-apocalyptic movie of the same name was last updated on the 24th, and displays properly |
| [01:28:29] | wagnerrp: | is that something that would cause problems for your metadata libraries? |
| [01:28:40] | iamlindoro: | probable |
| [01:28:51] | iamlindoro: | It expects RFC-822 format |
| [01:29:02] | wagnerrp: | its returning '2011-10–28 04:32:23 UTC' rather than 'Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:47:12 GMT' |
| [01:29:11] | iamlindoro: | yeah, that won't do |
| [01:29:21] | wagnerrp: | technically, for UTC, its supposed to do 'Z' |
| [01:29:28] | wagnerrp: | so its not even ISO format |
| [01:30:17] | iamlindoro: | that said, the metadata libraries would just get a bogus QDateTime from that, but should work otherwise |
| [01:30:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, im not sure why this guy is getting an error |
| [01:30:51] | wagnerrp: | at least on my end, its returning no results from the search |
| [01:31:05] | wagnerrp: | meaning it would fall through to whatever data the EPG had |
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| [01:31:41] | ** iamlindoro wonders if he would be vilified for selling a MythTV iPad app ** | |
| [01:32:26] | iamlindoro: | I went out and bought an iPad, gotta recoup those costs somehow ;) |
| [01:32:57] | wagnerrp: | seems a usable API response is time-zone free ISO |
| [01:33:10] | wagnerrp: | while a broken response appends UTC |
| [01:33:30] | iamlindoro: | sounds like the XSL may just need an additional eligible transform |
| [01:33:50] | iamlindoro: | which is doug's department :) |
| [01:35:57] | wagnerrp: | whoops! |
| [01:36:27] | wagnerrp: | the 'Bugs & Feature Requests' link on the API page leads to a signup sheet to create a bug tracker on lighthouse |
| [01:36:37] | wagnerrp: | seems their subscription has lapsed |
| [01:40:09] | iamlindoro: | They got bought |
| [01:40:14] | iamlindoro: | buy a company out here |
| [01:40:17] | iamlindoro: | er by a |
| [01:40:30] | iamlindoro: | so their future seems in question |
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| [01:43:13] | alla: | sphery: Now what? |
| [01:43:48] | sphery: | alla: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2011-10-29:17:48:55 |
| [01:44:51] | alla: | sphery: ooh. Okay thank you, I'll try that. |
| [01:45:03] | sphery: | alla: sound like your config? with ext4 for the mysql data file system? |
| [01:45:49] | alla: | sphery: Oh, not quite. It is software raid though... |
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| [01:46:04] | wagnerrp: | youre running your MySQL server on a software raid? |
| [01:46:13] | wagnerrp: | surely that would be software RAID1 |
| [01:46:19] | sphery: | well, the no logging table thing is just a meaningless error message |
| [01:46:25] | alla: | wagnerrp: yeah ... raid . |
| [01:46:29] | sphery: | I'll clean that up so it doesn't get output soon |
| [01:46:29] | alla: | raid1 |
| [01:46:48] | sphery: | but it's either that it didn't have time to finish the upgrade before you killed it |
| [01:46:49] | alla: | So I should just let the process run and run and run ...? |
| [01:47:11] | sphery: | or there's a real error message buried in the log somewhere amid the hundreds+ of unimportant errors |
| [01:47:16] | alla: | (I gave it about ten minutes of looping of that error message) |
| [01:47:33] | sphery: | it should take seconds to upgrade on a properly functioning system |
| [01:47:50] | sphery: | that said, some of the users with ext4/barriers would likely see it taking 10s of minutes |
| [01:48:00] | sphery: | (and really need to fix their mysql for proper mythtv performance) |
| [01:48:15] | sphery: | if yours isn't ext4, I'm not sure what could slow it down |
| [01:48:19] | alla: | sphery: The performance is usually stellar. |
| [01:48:27] | sphery: | so I'd guess there's a real error in there somwhere |
| [01:48:41] | sphery: | just have to find it by ignoring all the unimportant errors |
| [01:48:55] | wagnerrp: | alla: just checking... most users around here find RAID1 abhorrent for being 'inefficient', and then do something stupid like put their database on a RAID5 array |
| [01:49:36] | alla: | wagnerrp: It's just a simple raid 1 mirror. |
| [01:50:08] | alla: | wagnerrp: I do however place the recordings onto a separate harddisk ... |
| [01:50:33] | wagnerrp: | well no, i mean when most people say 'raid' around here, they mean 5 or 6 |
| [01:50:41] | wagnerrp: | and both result in terrible database performance |
| [01:50:47] | alla: | wagnerrp: So the main filesystem and database live on md0 and the live tv and recordings on a not raided disk. |
| [01:53:00] | sphery: | alla: if you want to pastebin a log file showing an attempted upgrade, we might be able to give you more info |
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| [01:53:16] | alla: | The error simply mentions the logging table, not existing. What is responsible for creating the logging table? |
| [01:53:23] | alla: | sphery: Ok hang on... |
| [01:53:26] | sphery: | the database upgrade :) |
| [01:53:43] | sphery: | the problem is that someone changed the code that prevented our using the logging table before it exists |
| [01:53:47] | sphery: | so now I hav eto fix that |
| [01:53:55] | sphery: | but it's a completely meaningless error message |
| [01:54:00] | wagnerrp: | hasnt that already been fixed twice? |
| [01:54:00] | sphery: | it won't affect anything |
| [01:55:01] | sphery: | it hasn't ever been fixed... it worked when with the initial implementation... it got broken when someone decided to write his own code to use prepared statements for the db logging instead of using the code I wrote (which didn't have the problem the committed code has) :) |
| [01:55:18] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [01:55:40] | wagnerrp: | i guess i just never looked at the logs to see that spam myself during the upgrade |
| [01:55:58] | sphery: | meaning I actually planned for and verified the functionality with initial implementation and with the prepared-statement-reuse patch I wrote, but that I didn't commit because we couldn't until we had working db reconnect code |
| [01:56:27] | sphery: | well, if you upgraded after the dblogging went in, but before the big database-reconnect changes, you didn't have errors |
| [01:57:52] | sphery: | I /hate/ github so much |
| [01:58:00] | sphery: | their UI needs to die |
| [01:58:17] | wagnerrp: | s/die/become less js'y |
| [01:58:37] | sphery: | and not redefine standard browser behavior |
| [01:58:52] | sphery: | by adding in keyboard shortcuts that are not standard browser behavior |
| [01:59:01] | sphery: | I try to find in page and it does shortcut things, instead |
| [01:59:15] | sphery: | idiot Web 2.0 programmers who just don't get the concept of the Web |
| [01:59:50] | ** sphery has strong feelings about how a web browser should work like a web browser and a web site has no business changing his browsers behavior ** | |
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| [02:01:10] | alla: | sphery: It seems to have gotten past the logging message! |
| [02:01:32] | sphery: | just by allowing the upgrade to run for many minutes? |
| [02:01:40] | alla: | sphery: Yes. |
| [02:02:12] | sphery: | if so, there's definitely an issue with your mysql... maybe your raid or the filesystem used on your raid is imposing similar barrier type constraints as ext4 |
| [02:02:57] | ** wagnerrp wonders if git is smart enough to backport this change directly ** | |
| [02:04:54] | wagnerrp: | seems not |
| [02:07:06] | sphery: | wagnerrp: something about too many files changed? |
| [02:07:19] | sphery: | renames |
| [02:07:22] | wagnerrp: | nah, i had made changes to that file previously |
| [02:07:30] | sphery: | ahhh |
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| [02:10:29] | alla: | sphery: Thanks very much your assistance. (and wagnerrp too!). |
| [02:11:21] | sphery: | good luck with it |
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| [02:14:23] | sphery: | hehe, seems it wasn't the prepared query reuse commit that broke it |
| [02:14:52] | alla: | what do you think it was? |
| [02:15:13] | sphery: | there's bad logic in an if |
| [02:15:30] | sphery: | have to talk to the dev who put it there to make sure that my logic is what he actually wanted |
| [02:15:39] | wagnerrp: | bah |
| [02:15:44] | sphery: | so, basically, it disables the "wait until the database has a logging table" code |
| [02:15:46] | wagnerrp: | no wonder the commflagger is running so slow |
| [02:15:51] | wagnerrp: | i just committed something |
| [02:15:53] | alla: | sphery: If you push a patch up, I'm willing to revert the database and apply the upgrade again to see if the error re-occurs. |
| [02:16:21] | sphery: | I can easily repro on my dev box |
| [02:16:30] | sphery: | I create new dbs all the time |
| [02:16:38] | sphery: | and I start with a 0.24-fixes db backup |
| [02:16:43] | sphery: | so I always get upgrades |
| [02:16:44] | alla: | sphery: Ok, no worries. I didn't realise you could reproduce the error. |
| [02:16:50] | sphery: | thanks for the offer, though |
| [02:17:11] | sphery: | if I were one of these crazy devs who actually uses his production system as a development box, I'd have taken you up on the offer :) |
| [02:17:51] | sphery: | basically, though, https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . ing.cpp#L521 is the problem, by my reading |
| [02:18:38] | sphery: | as it will only wait when we have no MythContext (gCoreContext) and aborted is false and ready is false, but as soon as we have a MythContext, we stop waiting |
| [02:19:11] | sphery: | I think it should either be ||'s or should be while ( !(gCoreContext && aborted && ready)) |
| [02:19:24] | sphery: | just have to talk to a certain bearded dev |
| [02:20:02] | ** wagnerrp wonders if he still had that beard in the rain forest ** | |
| [02:20:11] | sphery: | hehe, yeah, you'd think that would be hot |
| [02:20:41] | wagnerrp: | 14 minutes for 0.24? |
| [02:20:50] | wagnerrp: | wonder why its taking so much longer |
| [02:22:30] | sphery: | for commflag? |
| [02:22:40] | wagnerrp: | no, for 0.24 buildbot |
| [02:22:43] | sphery: | ohhh |
| [02:22:49] | sphery: | ccache? |
| [02:23:01] | sphery: | maybe rebuilding it? |
| [02:23:21] | wagnerrp: | ccache cache is sufficiently large it shouldnt get flushed out |
| [02:23:34] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if ccache does not cache anything with warnings |
| [02:23:52] | wagnerrp: | anyway, guy wanted to know how fast he could expect commflagging to run on a 3.2GHz Ath II |
| [02:23:57] | sphery: | (TTBOMK, the ccache is keyed off file location on the file system, so if you rebuild a 0.24-fixes in the same source directory as you previously used for master, it will bork the master's cache) |
| [02:24:01] | wagnerrp: | ive got a 3.3GHz Phn II |
| [02:24:10] | sphery: | same source dir = absolute path |
| [02:24:15] | wagnerrp: | no, different path |
| [02:24:19] | sphery: | ok, cool |
| [02:27:12] | sphery: | alla: anyway, thanks for getting me to finally read through the code to find the bug... it finally became easier to start reading the code than to keep explaining that the error message is harmless :) |
| [02:28:05] | alla: | sphery: hah. It's easier to interface with code than people. |
| [02:28:46] | sphery: | hehe, well, more than anything, you guilted me into taking a little of my time to save a lot of people's time |
| [02:29:04] | alla: | guilt ftw :-) |
| [02:29:04] | sphery: | since so many people think that's the error that's preventing their db upgrades when it's always something else |
| [02:29:31] | sphery: | yep, there are so many things I'd never get finished without guilt |
| [02:29:48] | sphery: | it's a good thing I'm not a sociopath |
| [02:30:18] | alla: | that's just what a sociopath would say ... |
| [02:30:33] | sphery: | hehe |
| [02:32:56] | iamlindoro: | A sociopath doesn't care if he's a sociopath |
| [02:33:01] | iamlindoro: | he doesn't even know he *should* care |
| [02:33:31] | sphery: | I liked the House with the sociopath--though it was actually kind of scary |
| [02:34:10] | wagnerrp: | i know i saw that several years ago.. but i cant remember much about it |
| [02:35:53] | sphery: | complete with many spoilers: http://www.politedissent.com/archives/4600 |
| [02:37:24] | sphery: | wonder what Fox did to my Terra Nova... went to like a 2.35:1 and SDTV near the end of last week's episode |
| [02:37:34] | sphery: | hope the last 10 minutes aren't all this way |
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| [02:48:42] | alla: | What's the easiest way to stop an inprogress recording? (hopefully without leaving the viewing mode). I usually have to exit and go to "Watch Recordings" and stop the recording. Is there a way to stop it, while you are watching it? |
| [02:50:31] | wagnerrp: | im not sure i understand |
| [02:51:01] | wagnerrp: | oh, youre saying you have another recording, independent of your livetv session |
| [02:51:04] | wagnerrp: | that you want to stop |
| [02:51:14] | alla: | no, hang on. |
| [02:51:42] | alla: | imagine you see that House is on later, so you want to record it, you go to the schedule and make it record. |
| [02:52:04] | alla: | then later your watching telly and myth says it wants to record House on channel n, do you want to watch it? |
| [02:52:08] | alla: | sure, you say |
| [02:52:24] | alla: | so it switches channels and you watch House. |
| [02:52:37] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, ive never used that capability |
| [02:52:48] | alla: | unfortunately you have mythtv set up to record half an hour past your shows |
| [02:53:07] | alla: | so House ends, and then you would like to change the channel – and your crappy tv card only has one tuner |
| [02:53:23] | alla: | so you have to exit to "watch recordings" and manually kill the recording. |
| [02:53:45] | sphery: | only way I know of to stop an in-progress recording is to do so through watch recordings |
| [02:54:25] | wagnerrp: | add additional tuner cards |
| [02:54:26] | alla: | It appears to be deliberately difficult to stop inprogress recordings. Understandably I guess, but it is a PITA. |
| [02:54:45] | alla: | Maybe my use case is just not very common. |
| [02:55:06] | sphery: | I think once you say you're watching the show in progress, you're no longer in live tv, anyway, so even if you end the recording (i.e. through mythweb), it will just play until the end of the recording, then dump you back to the menus |
| [02:55:21] | sphery: | so either way, you have to restart live tv |
| [02:55:30] | sphery: | but, the /best/ solution is: don't use live tv :) |
| [02:55:55] | alla: | sphery: I love live tv! |
| [02:56:15] | alla: | sphery: I see all manner of junk I wouldn't think to record... |
| [02:56:30] | sphery: | I love having 1700 recordings of things that I previously decided I might want to watch rather than having to suffer through whatever garbage may be airing right now :) |
| [02:57:00] | sphery: | alla: and then you get to watch the last half or last 10 minutes of it :) |
| [02:57:16] | sphery: | since you never find it before/when it starts |
| [02:57:58] | alla: | hmph. See you're probably coming from a culture that has hundreds of channels. In Australia there are about 10. |
| [02:58:05] | alla: | (unless you've got paytv) |
| [02:58:28] | wagnerrp: | nah, we get 5–10 depending on your market |
| [02:58:38] | sphery: | hehe, I only have OTA channels, so I have about 6 worth watching |
| [02:58:46] | alla: | Ah jeeze. |
| [02:58:52] | sphery: | but I record a lot of stuff on those 6 |
| [02:59:09] | wagnerrp: | alla: do note that you cant just record one virtual channel, you can record the whole multiplex |
| [02:59:18] | alla: | wagnerrp: wtf |
| [02:59:21] | wagnerrp: | if youre recording house on one channel on the multipelx |
| [02:59:28] | wagnerrp: | you can still record some other show on the same multiplex |
| [02:59:49] | ** wagnerrp is assuming youre talking about a digital tuner card ** | |
| [02:59:53] | alla: | wagnerrp: You are literally speaking another language. And don't tell me to look up 'literally'. |
| [03:00:07] | sphery: | I will admit that from what I've heard of the Australian broadcasters' refusal to obey their posted schedules, I can understand a) the 30min over-record on House and b) why you might not be as trusting of recording things and watching them days/weeks/months/years later |
| [03:00:36] | alla: | wagnerrp: Are you saying I am recording more than one channel on my DVB-T card, at a time? |
| [03:00:56] | wagnerrp: | you can record one physical channel at a time on your DVB-T card |
| [03:01:10] | wagnerrp: | each physical channel (multiplex) can contain multiple virtual channels |
| [03:02:03] | alla: | Is there a different program on each of these virtual channels? |
| [03:02:13] | wagnerrp: | often, yes |
| [03:03:05] | alla: | That kind of makes sense, we have four or five main broadcasters, each with an allotted piece of the spectrum. And they each broadcast two or three channels. |
| [03:03:42] | alla: | I'm not sure I can record more than one (virtual) channel at a time though ... how can I check? |
| [03:04:45] | wagnerrp: | when you created your digital tuner in mythtv, it should have added two virtual tuners by default |
| [03:04:56] | wagnerrp: | each virtual tuner can record one show |
| [03:05:08] | wagnerrp: | and they can record at the same time, as long as they both want to use the same multiplex |
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| [03:05:58] | alla: | wagnerrp: cool. But I don't think I do have two virtual tuners. I do have a secondary v4linux (analog) tuner, that's not what you're referring to is it? |
| [03:06:24] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [03:06:54] | wagnerrp: | in the advanced settings when you define a virtual tuner, there is an option to set the maximum number of simultaneous recordings, that manages how many virtual tuners are created |
| [03:07:02] | wagnerrp: | it defaults to two, with a maximum of give |
| [03:07:04] | wagnerrp: | five |
| [03:08:20] | alla: | wagnerrp: wowser. I will check back in when my latest myth build completes. |
| [03:08:28] | ** alla afk ** | |
| [03:08:51] | wagnerrp: | with multiple tuners, you want to set that as high as you want at creation, and not fiddle afterwards |
| [03:09:03] | wagnerrp: | with a single tuner, just increase it now |
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| [03:58:41] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, you are not a fan of the composer Richard Wagner? |
| [03:59:06] | wagnerrp: | only when piloting a dive bomber |
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| [10:20:56] | elkin: | /msg NickServ identify drecksack |
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| [10:22:57] | elkin: | have multiline text edits been added to mythui? |
| [10:27:49] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes, jpabq has been working on that recently. https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/8f757eeaf was his recent commit to try to get them working correctly. |
| [10:30:01] | elkin: | Captain_Murdoch: it seems this is just a start... or can it be already used? |
| [10:30:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | I think it can be used. his commit log says "Multi-line textedits are now rendered correctly." |
| [10:31:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | and talks about automatic scrolling if the text exceeds the size of the area. |
| [10:32:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | there have only been 2 edits to mythuitextedit.cpp since, and I don't recall any discussions about it since then, so I think it's functioning. |
| [10:33:31] | elkin: | Captain_Murdoch: I will test it in my theme in a minute... thanks |
| [10:33:37] | Captain_Murdoch: | yw |
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| [10:40:37] | elkin: | Captain_Murdoch: works!! |
| [10:42:18] | Captain_Murdoch: | great. send me (cpinkham) an email if you want to pull another version for git master for the theme download site. |
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| [10:54:28] | elkin: | Captain_Murdoch: I was under the impression, that you had a script checking the version number... I have made many changes in the last few weeks. |
| [10:59:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, I do check the version number, but I don't run the script automatically. I was waiting to do that until we got back onto our original webserver. right now wer're running on a temporary server. |
| [10:59:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | right now I run the script on my home machine, then upload the files to the webserver. |
| [10:59:49] | Captain_Murdoch: | once we get back on our own webserver I'll setup the script to run there automatically. |
| [11:01:30] | Captain_Murdoch: | sorry for the confusion. I might not have mentioned that earlier. we expected to be back on our own physical server by now, but had a delay. |
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| [11:04:52] | elkin: | Captain_Murdoch: thats no problem at all. I am sure not many are using trunk much less my theme. I will make a mental note to send you a mail each time I change the version (sometime tonight) |
| [11:06:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, thanks. I wish I had more time to create a theme upload site, but until we get more themers, it's takes a whole lot less of my time now to just run the script every so often or add new theme repos to the script. that's something else I need to do before cron-ing it on the webserver, I need to split out the theme/repo information out of the script and into a config file. :| hardcoded for simplicity to begin with. |
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| [11:45:23] | k-man: | if I have subtitles turned on and then skip back a bit, the progress bar obscures the captions. is there some way to make the bar go away more quickly in that instance? |
| [11:45:41] | stuartm: | ESCAPE |
| [11:46:46] | k-man: | stuartm, ah cool, thanks! |
| [11:49:03] | stuartm: | it's not automatic, but it's the next best thing |
| [11:54:35] | k-man: | no its perfect |
| [11:54:46] | k-man: | I wouldn't want it automatic |
| [11:55:22] | stuartm: | just be careful with the timing, if you press it after the OSD has disappeared it will exit playback instead :) |
| [11:55:28] | k-man: | as most of the time the progress bar is what you want to see, but sometimes you need to get it out of the way quickly |
| [11:55:38] | k-man: | yeah figured |
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| [12:14:20] | sphery: | unless you set action on playback exit to prompt :) |
| [12:24:57] | alla: | Okay now I'm running 25.1. I'm recording something and I would like to watch it as well. Previously I would be given the option to select the in-progress recording from "Watch Recordings", but now I just get a "Tuner Busy" message... |
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| [12:25:06] | wagnerrp: | 0.25.1? |
| [12:25:17] | wagnerrp: | no such beast |
| [12:25:47] | alla: | hrm |
| [12:26:08] | sphery: | you likely mean "unstable/development code from the master branch" |
| [12:26:19] | alla: | wagnerrp: Ah, the theme is called 0.25.1 |
| [12:26:26] | wagnerrp: | there is 0.24.1, and 0.25pre |
| [12:26:45] | wagnerrp: | the theme may be versioned 0.25.1, but it is not named that |
| [12:26:56] | alla: | wagnerrp: My mistake. |
| [12:27:04] | alla: | SO ... |
| [12:27:16] | alla: | I'm missing my show :-) |
| [12:28:05] | alla: | Any idea how to actually see it? |
| [12:28:13] | wagnerrp: | trying to play the show from in 'watch recordings' gives you a 'tuner busy'? |
| [12:28:43] | sphery: | I think he's starting Live TV and trying to use the popup that says, "All tuners are busy, would you like to..." |
| [12:29:04] | ** wagnerrp has honestly never seen that dialog ** | |
| [12:29:11] | sphery: | but the approach wagnerrp mentions should definitely work |
| [12:29:19] | alla: | wagnerrp: the show hasn't even appeared in 'watch recordings' yet. |
| [12:29:21] | sphery: | nor I :) |
| [12:29:43] | sphery: | alla: is it actually recording? if so, you likely have a filter on |
| [12:29:43] | wagnerrp: | it should appear immediately after recording starts |
| [12:29:44] | alla: | sphery: I can't even start live tv, because it's recording. |
| [12:29:53] | alla: | filter you say .... |
| [12:29:55] | wagnerrp: | meaning, within a second or two |
| [12:29:59] | ** alla goes and checks ** | |
| [12:30:05] | sphery: | alla: no, the approach of going to Watch Recordings and then starting playback |
| [12:30:12] | sphery: | that should always work |
| [12:30:16] | wagnerrp: | in 'watch recordings', hit 'm' and mess with the filter options |
| [12:30:21] | sphery: | anything that has to do with Live TV, not so much :) |
| [12:30:41] | sphery: | alla: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . ecordings.3F |
| [12:31:17] | ** sphery should go through the FAQ and change "Myth" to MythTV ** | |
| [12:33:10] | alla: | wagnerrp: Huzzah, changing the filter worked. I lose teh netz today. |
| [12:35:57] | alla: | ummm, btw commenting out the pause dialog code from 5502 worked perfectly. What are the chances it could be made into a config option in the future? |
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| [12:36:20] | alla: | 5502/tv_play.cpp, that is |
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| [12:38:16] | sphery: | no new settings for things like that |
| [12:38:28] | sphery: | instead, change the theme to make a transparent pause dialog |
| [12:38:50] | sphery: | we're actively reducing the number of settings and "what appears on screen" is firmly in the realm of themes and not settings |
| [12:40:24] | alla: | sphery: I meant more of a hidden config option. No UI necessary. |
| [12:40:39] | alla: | sphery: That takes away the support burden ... surely? |
| [12:40:47] | sphery: | even without UI widgets (or especially) settings become a burden |
| [12:41:16] | sphery: | because we'll get bug reports from users "X doesn't work" and then spend months trying to figure the right combinations of settings under which it fails to work |
| [12:41:22] | alla: | sphery: I know you're right, I just hate that pause dialog so. much. |
| [12:41:44] | sphery: | besides, as mentioned, it's not a settings idea... just change the theme--we already have a good approach for "fixing" that |
| [12:42:15] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Osd.xml |
| [12:42:32] | alla: | sphery: I tried going through the theme. It should say something that I found the source easier to understand – and I'm no cpp guy. |
| [12:43:20] | alla: | sphery: FWIW it's not that I want to completely remove the dialog – only when pausing and frame-by-framing ... |
| [12:44:02] | sphery: | looks like you'd just make a <window name="osd_status"></window> ? |
| [12:44:31] | sphery: | and get rid of the theme's existing osd_status |
| [12:44:37] | sphery: | (comment/delete) |
| [12:45:35] | alla: | sphery: Yeah I've nfi about that. HEY guess what show I just uncovered that I'd missed via changing the filter? :-) |
| [12:46:27] | alla: | ... there's a roof ... a doormat ... it's a House! |
| [12:47:29] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you want to handle this 'recommendation for new combined frontend+backend'? ill be out at breakfast for a while |
| [12:47:45] | wagnerrp: | dont want the 'you want silent, go atom' people to hit it first... |
| [12:47:45] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [12:49:09] | alla: | wagnerrp: combine ALL the -ends! |
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| [12:53:14] | sphery: | wagnerrp: hehe, will be more fun to wade in after all the "just use an Atom" people speak up... besides, I'll be at volleyball for a few hours |
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| [13:06:39] | elkin: | the scrollspeed in a textarea seems to be pretty fast (I can't read that fast...). Is there a way of reducing it in the theme? |
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| [16:18:29] | TLE: | hallo, I have some problems getting the system event handlers to work |
| [16:18:58] | TLE: | In the field for "Any event" I have put: /bin/bash path-to-bash-script |
| [16:19:29] | TLE: | and this bash scripts simply echo hallo world to a file, that is given by a full path |
| [16:19:45] | TLE: | echo "hallo world" > /home/kenneth/testlog |
| [16:20:27] | wagnerrp: | did you put a '#!/bin/bash' at the top of the script? |
| [16:20:39] | TLE: | then I tried to trigger any event, e.g. by opening live tv, but nothing happens, any ideas on what I'm doing wrong |
| [16:20:49] | wagnerrp: | does every mythtv-related process have write access to your home directory? |
| [16:21:53] | TLE: | wagnerrp: yes :: I don't know, but ok I can touch the file and give anyone access to it |
| [16:22:24] | wagnerrp: | that means frontends, backends, jobqueues, and any other binary that may be running and connected to the master backend |
| [16:22:45] | wagnerrp: | just one of them is chosen per host, effectively at random, and used to run the script |
| [16:25:00] | wagnerrp: | (its not random, but there is no intended priority) |
| [16:25:16] | wagnerrp: | other than the master backend will always be the one to trigger it on its host |
| [16:28:06] | TLE: | wagnerrp: damn, I cannot believe its that simple |
| [16:28:41] | TLE: | it works now, thanks a lot |
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| [16:30:15] | TLE: | wagnerrp: another thing, is there any limitation is wat kind of script can be run from it |
| [16:30:23] | TLE: | e.g. kan I also run python scripts |
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| [16:30:42] | wagnerrp: | you can run anything that is executable |
| [16:33:03] | TLE: | with or without supplying it with the executable |
| [16:33:15] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [16:35:36] | TLE: | do I need to write /usr/bin/python /home/kenneth/test.py or just the latter part |
| [16:35:54] | wagnerrp: | scripts are executable if written correctly |
| [16:36:20] | TLE: | yeah ok, with the shabang in the beginning, great, thank you |
| [16:36:28] | wagnerrp: | specifically, that means your python script gets a '#!/usr/bin/env python' |
| [16:37:34] | TLE: | yes I did that, I guess it was just the right issue I had then, because I have been trying all different kinds of ways of writing those handlers |
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| [17:28:13] | TLE: | is the system event "scheduler ran" triggerede when I schedules new recordings? |
| [17:28:31] | wagnerrp: | not exactly |
| [17:28:46] | wagnerrp: | it is triggered at the end of ever scheduler run |
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| [17:29:20] | wagnerrp: | the scheduler is in turn run every time you make a change to your recording rules, or perform a recording, or make a change to your old recordings, or add new guide data, or any number of other triggers |
| [17:29:46] | wagnerrp: | so yes it will run when you schedule new recordings, but it will also run a whole lot of other times as well |
| [17:30:46] | TLE: | ok, but that then means that it is _as a minimum_ run whenever I add/remove recording, it is just also run in more cases, right? |
| [17:31:35] | wagnerrp: | lots of other cases |
| [17:32:58] | TLE: | yes |
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| [17:41:28] | [R]: | wagnerrp: so remember how i had that problem with the video catching up to livetv? well now its ALOT worse and i do have problems because of it |
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| [18:16:20] | [R]: | so i found a bug in my channel change script, blah |
| [18:16:29] | [R]: | wagnerrp: is there a system event for if a recording fails? |
| [18:24:25] | wagnerrp: | not currently |
| [18:25:23] | sphery: | but many have expressed a desire for one... |
| [18:25:41] | sphery: | there is a state for it, so it's just exposing it as an event that needs doing |
| [18:27:48] | iamlindoro: | Which is one line of code... or two if you need the header |
| [18:27:55] | iamlindoro: | not it |
| [18:28:37] | sphery: | didn't [R] say he was it? |
| [18:28:38] | sphery: | :) |
| [18:28:46] | [R]: | lol |
| [18:28:48] | iamlindoro: | sure sounds like it ;) |
| [18:28:55] | [R]: | then i have to learn the event system |
| [18:29:07] | [R]: | i dont even know how to configure an existing one |
| [18:29:07] | iamlindoro: | no, you just need to copy any other line sending a system event |
| [18:29:20] | iamlindoro: | and give it a name :) |
| [18:29:37] | [R]: | TO THE WIKI! |
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| [18:33:20] | sphery: | sad... mythconverg-1264–20110906160324.sql.gz was the last time I did any work on mythtv |
| [18:33:30] | sphery: | almost 2 months |
| [18:37:17] | sphery: | yeah, mythtv-setup is unusable with it trying to connect to the master backend and popping up an error when it can't |
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| [18:38:23] | [R]: | sphery: i was going to say something about that |
| [18:38:33] | [R]: | but i figured i must be crazy |
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| [18:47:23] | sphery: | well, we can't consider this proof that you're not... but at least regarding the unusability of mythtv-setup, you're correct. ;) |
| [18:47:49] | [R]: | :( |
| [18:47:50] | [R]: | lol |
| [18:48:26] | [R]: | so i can't figure out how these system events work |
| [18:48:32] | [R]: | do you knnow of a particular place one gets sent? |
| [18:49:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | [R], look at this commit: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/4aece2ea |
| [18:49:36] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: I have to admit that I'm behind on commits, but I thought someone mentioned something about fixing mythtv-setup's trying to connect to the backend? |
| [18:49:42] | [R]: | ah, thanks |
| [18:49:57] | sphery: | or was I just dreaming ... like Nostradamus |
| [18:50:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | basically you just need to add the 1 line to libs/libmythtv/mythsystemevent.cpp to add an entry to m_settings to define the new event so you can set a command for it. then inside the code where you want to send the event, you call SendMythSystemEvent("YOUR_EVENT_NAME") where YOUR_EVENT_NAME translates to EVentCmdYourEventName |
| [18:51:03] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, I fixed an issue like that a week or so ago. the issue I fixed was a short-lived bug related to me sending system events whenever a window was created or destroyed, so you could fire off a system event when you entered the music playback screen, etc.. |
| [18:51:10] | [R]: | Captain_Murdoch: doens't sound too bad, thanks |
| [18:51:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | [R], you may need to #include "mythsystemevent.h" if the file you're sending from doesn't already include that header. |
| [18:51:51] | sphery: | ahhh... seems that's different from current. for some reason mythtv-setup tries to connect to the backend and keeps popping up a dialog saying it can't, so you can't even navigate or anything |
| [18:51:56] | sphery: | :( |
| [18:53:36] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, is the MBE up or down? that may be the same issue even if you're on current trunk. I just had a 2x4 hit me in the head that made me realize the issue may happen if the MBE is down. |
| [18:53:56] | stuartm: | Captain_Murdoch: fwiw, I've noticed an issue with the playback started event and livetv, I've not debugged it yet, but one of two things are happening – either it gets sent followed by playback stopped event or it's never sent in the first place |
| [18:54:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | I tested with the MBE up, didn't test with the MBE down but I can see how it would cause popups if it wasn't up. |
| [18:56:36] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: yeah, mbe is down--because I'm supposed to shut it down to run mythtv-setup :) |
| [18:56:48] | sphery: | (and, actually, I was using mythtv-setup to upgrade my db--testing db logging changes) |
| [18:57:12] | stuartm: | I have scripts to change the processor freq when video is playing (start/stop/pause/unpause) and the frequency isn't where it should be when I start livetv so somewhere one event or another isn't getting sent |
| [18:57:25] | sphery: | glad you know what's causing it... I would have been going in cold |
| [18:57:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, ok, I'll get a fix in for that. |
| [18:58:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | stuartm, anything repeatable or just at random? |
| [18:58:21] | sphery: | stuartm: that sounds /very/ much like the behavior Beirdo saw with his hdhr killer script... I think he mentioned something about dummy recording starting/ending? |
| [18:58:47] | stuartm: | Captain_Murdoch: entirely repeatable so far, I'm waiting for recordings to finish so that I can increase the verbosity |
| [18:59:03] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, could be missing a place that needs to fire the event. |
| [18:59:05] | stuartm: | sphery: dummy recordings might help to explain it |
| [18:59:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | stuartm, yeah, I was wondering about that, but thought we got rid of some of that, but probably misremembering things. |
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| [19:00:15] | stuartm: | I don't generally use livetv, but I've just been re-laying the coaxial cabling and that involved lots of testing |
| [19:00:31] | sphery: | should definitely talk to Beirdo... I know he's using recording started and I think he was also watching for recording finished because of some case where both would come |
| [19:00:48] | sphery: | he definitely knows that behavior well |
| [19:04:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, thanks. |
| [19:14:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, mythtv-setup should be fixed now. I tested with my dev MBE down. now, a frontend may have a similar issue if the MBE is down, I need to think of a way around that. |
| [19:15:45] | sphery: | thx |
| [19:15:47] | sphery: | tha twas quick |
| [19:16:02] | [R]: | that's what she said? |
| [19:16:18] | sphery: | oh, and yay! RPM Fusion retired the mythtv-themes package--now expecting users to use the Theme Chooser (as they should) |
| [19:21:37] | ** sphery considers removing --logfile ** | |
| [19:34:36] | sphery: | wagnerrp: didn't Beirdo re-enable HUP handling? |
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| [19:37:01] | stuartm: | sphery: huh? What's wrong with --logfile ? |
| [19:38:33] | [R]: | ffs! |
| [19:38:36] | [R]: | keepmynets.com |
| [19:38:40] | [R]: | i need my natgeo! |
| [19:38:54] | sphery: | stuartm: it means that we don't get logging for anything except the main app |
| [19:39:00] | sphery: | and users won't stop using it |
| [19:40:44] | sphery: | stuartm: my plan for --logpath/--logfile was to accept either a directory or file path... If the user gave a file path, I'd then use the same directory for the log files for other apps/children processes, etc. Beirdo made the point that the user isn't giving us permission to write to other files in the directory with --logfile, so he didn't want to, which means users don't get logging output for other stuff |
| [19:41:12] | sphery: | so, IMHO, because --logfile is the one users keep trying to use, but is not providing info they need to debug problems, having it is worse than removing it |
| [19:42:05] | sphery: | users wanting a specific file can set up syslog output... users wanting "generic mythtv logging to mythtv-specified log file names" can then use --logpath |
| [19:44:35] | sphery: | iamlindoro: wanna close #10132 after 12aa9525? :) (That was your plan, right--add a small memory leak so you could remove it and close that ticket...) |
| [19:44:39] | stuartm: | hmm, it just means changing my logrotate configs and tbh I'm not sure how that would work |
| [19:45:07] | sphery: | stuartm: well, the problem is with mythbackend and mythfrontend running a ton of external processes, if you use --logfile you do not get any log output for them |
| [19:45:18] | sphery: | it's just thrown away... |
| [19:45:34] | sphery: | does Mandriva(?) use rsyslog? |
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| [19:46:16] | sphery: | If so, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Rsyslog_Configuration ... |
| [19:46:33] | sphery: | If not, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Syslog_Configuration_Files (we'd appreciate your posting the config for your syslog impl :) |
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| [19:49:10] | iamlindoro: | sphery: heh |
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| [20:09:14] | [R]: | so the system events documentation said '%RECSTATUS%' isn't currently useful... it dindt say its not currently implemented |
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| [20:16:37] | stuartm: | sphery: playing devils advocate, I suppose we're past the point where --logfile could just mimic the old behaviour, logging everything to a single file? |
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| [20:27:35] | sphery: | stuartm: that would require a pretty major rewrite of the logging code--and it was something we tried to explicitly prevent since it was making it hard for people to read logs (and users would report issues like, "Ticket #9704: backend deadlocks up with Protocol version check failure." when the backend didn't give a version check failure, but mythpreviewgen, called by the backend, gave a version check error and such |
| [20:28:08] | sphery: | but with the current code, you can put all mythtv logging into a single file--using syslog output |
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| [20:44:52] | srk9: | Does nayone kno whow to install MythTV 0.24.1 on Gentoo Linux? |
| [20:45:22] | [R]: | with emerge? |
| [20:45:55] | srk9: | The latest version in portage is 0.23.1. |
| [20:46:10] | srk9: | I read that upstream had an overlay, but I cannot find it. |
| [20:46:11] | sphery: | srk9: https://github.com/MythTV/packaging |
| [20:47:06] | srk9: | sphery: Thanks. :) |
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| [20:59:08] | justinh: | heh. I need a thing to email or else somehow inform me that the aerial has become unplugged |
| [20:59:34] | [R]: | sphery: so i got a recording failed event... but i notice if channel change fails... i still have an entry in my recorded shows list... is that supposed to happen? |
| [20:59:56] | [R]: | justinh: does that happen oftne? |
| [21:00:06] | justinh: | [R]: it might, with a Thomas in this house |
| [21:00:13] | [R]: | thomas? |
| [21:00:19] | justinh: | 1 year old |
| [21:00:35] | [R]: | is that his name, or another one of those crazy british slangs? |
| [21:00:40] | justinh: | his name |
| [21:00:42] | justinh: | sheesh |
| [21:00:44] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:00:57] | justinh: | [R]: define 'failed channel change' |
| [21:01:04] | [R]: | justinh: the script returned an error |
| [21:01:16] | justinh: | ooh no, shouldn't have gone to proceed to record |
| [21:01:30] | justinh: | a script failure should mean it stops right there AFAIK |
| [21:01:33] | [R]: | it knows it failed, and it dindt actually record anything |
| [21:01:47] | [R]: | but i have an entry with a missing recording |
| [21:01:54] | justinh: | do you have a 0 byte file though? |
| [21:02:05] | [R]: | 2011-10–30 13:59:22.406704 E ProgramInfo(1568_20111030135700.mpg): GetPlaybackURL: '1568_20111030135700.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found. |
| [21:02:07] | [R]: | i have no file |
| [21:02:11] | justinh: | heh |
| [21:02:15] | [R]: | and mythweb just says "B" |
| [21:02:35] | sphery: | [R]: you're not backgrounding the script or anything, are you? |
| [21:02:45] | sphery: | your timeout is sufficiently long? |
| [21:02:53] | [R]: | which timeout? |
| [21:02:56] | [R]: | no background |
| [21:02:57] | sphery: | (the defaults liekly aren't) |
| [21:03:05] | sphery: | timeouts for the tuning or signal |
| [21:03:08] | sphery: | the ones in mythtv-setup |
| [21:03:17] | [R]: | my channel change script returns an error immediately |
| [21:03:41] | sphery: | hmmm... well, I know we don't always handle errors properly when tuning |
| [21:03:47] | sphery: | so maybe this is just one of those cases |
| [21:03:54] | sphery: | signal monitor is supposed to catch that |
| [21:04:22] | [R]: | what kind of verbose should i enable? |
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| [22:09:39] | [R]: | sphery: so it looks like it was a flaw in my test, it seems the backend gives up after three minutes, my tests were only for 1 minute... when dealing with the channel change failing |
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| [22:21:52] | sutula: | Is there a way to start the backend with no valid input connections? I just want to use the backend to play my existing recordings, not to record any new ones. |
| [22:23:14] | sutula: | The backend gives: Channel(/dev/video0) Error: GetCurrentChannelNum(): Failed to find Channel |
| [22:23:47] | sutula: | and |
| [22:23:53] | sutula: | ChannelBase(10) Error: InitializeInputs(): |
| [22:23:53] | sutula: | Could not get inputs for the capturecard. |
| [22:23:53] | sutula: | Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video |
| [22:23:53] | sutula: | sources to your card's inputs? |
| [22:24:41] | [R]: | you obivulsy have a tuner... so just create a dummy source with no grabber and add a single dumy channel |
| [22:25:29] | sutula: | [R]: K, thanks |
| [22:28:19] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: for gentoo, i wrote a little python script that you stick in cron to clean up anything over a week, or more than five instances of the same application, which ever comes last |
| [22:28:43] | wagnerrp: | so you just use a catch-all rule for that folder for logrotate |
| [22:28:54] | wagnerrp: | and let this script periodically clean up old files |
| [22:29:55] | wagnerrp: | staurtm: to be honest, i flush my gentoo boxes once every week or two, so the logs never have a chance to grow to unmanageable sizes |
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| [22:30:38] | wagnerrp: | and my bsd box, the logs are compressed on-the-fly using ZFS, so i could potentially go years before the logs grow too large |
| [22:31:30] | [R]: | that's what she saaid |
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| [22:45:50] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [22:46:08] | Beirdo: | Mercedes-Benz hired an illiterate ad agency |
| [22:46:28] | Beirdo: | "blah blah blah, less doors..." |
| [22:46:44] | Beirdo: | that's *fewer* doors, you dimwits! |
| [22:46:55] | [R]: | wtf? |
| [22:47:19] | [R]: | why is that a good thing to begin with? |
| [22:47:39] | Beirdo: | it's an ad for a C-series coupe |
| [22:47:57] | [R]: | so it only has a drivers door and no passengers? |
| [22:48:06] | Beirdo: | so it has 2 instead of 4 dorrs |
| [22:48:08] | Beirdo: | doors |
| [22:48:32] | Beirdo: | and for those who don't get my beef: |
| [22:48:33] | Beirdo: | http://oxforddictionaries.com/page/grammartiplessorfewer |
| [22:48:41] | [R]: | lol |
| [22:48:57] | Beirdo: | clearly doors are something you can individually count. |
| [22:49:05] | [R]: | haha |
| [22:49:31] | ** wagnerrp cant count, you insensitive clod! ** | |
| [22:50:06] | Beirdo: | then you must be rich enough to buy the C-class coupe! |
| [23:04:56] | Beirdo: | OMG. |
| [23:05:17] | [R]: | ROFL @ the mailing list |
| [23:05:22] | Beirdo: | there it goes. Seems you *must* call CanHandle() before OpenFile() in avformatdecoder |
| [23:08:46] | Beirdo: | crap |
| [23:08:59] | Beirdo: | I think I have more hackage to do |
| [23:12:51] | Beirdo: | hehe, every frame seems to go onto the audio queue. |
| [23:12:58] | Beirdo: | don't think that's quite right |
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| [23:47:33] | Beirdo: | Yeeehaw |
| [23:47:40] | Beirdo: | got it linked up correctly now |
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