| Friday, October 21st, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:07] | wagnerrp: | i dont know why there arent more instrumental rock songs |
| [00:00:07] | lapion: | No iTunes made the decline go even beyond subzero... |
| [00:00:09] | Beirdo: | heh. 8:25 of instrumental. :) |
| [00:00:18] | wagnerrp: | its like the vocalists need their ego boost |
| [00:00:24] | Beirdo: | yeah, exactly. |
| [00:00:50] | Beirdo: | Van Halen usually has one per album or so. Eddie showing off, primarily |
| [00:01:13] | wagnerrp: | far too many songs have been ruined by the vocalists opening their mouths |
| [00:01:37] | lapion: | when people started sampling single the lesser songs they found out that they did not have that many good songs |
| [00:02:33] | lapion: | s/single// |
| [00:02:44] | lapion: | time to sleep of the typos |
| [00:02:53] | lapion: | s/of/off/ |
| [00:03:17] | lapion: | nnd wagnerrp, Beirdo |
| [00:03:21] | wagnerrp: | no, you had it right first |
| [00:03:24] | wagnerrp: | the sleep of the typos |
| [00:03:41] | Beirdo: | ah well. This reminds me, I should go to the record stores and see if they have any old Metallica or Megadeth vinyl :) |
| [00:03:46] | Beirdo: | night, lapion |
| [00:03:49] | wagnerrp: | its a night of literary discord |
| [00:04:20] | lapion: | or night of litterary poetry |
| [00:04:23] | lapion: | nn |
| [00:06:12] | Beirdo: | too bad Cliff Burton died so early on... Metallica coulda used his awesome bass playing for longer than 3 albums. |
| [00:06:30] | wagnerrp: | by reload, they had completely lost it |
| [00:06:34] | Beirdo: | which... happen to be my favorite 3 albums |
| [00:06:43] | wagnerrp: | i mean seriously... you dont make a SEQUEL of a song |
| [00:06:48] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [00:06:52] | Beirdo: | yeah, no kidding |
| [00:07:04] | wagnerrp: | hey, hey guys! lets make an unforgiven... two! |
| [00:07:52] | Beirdo: | although I played them in the wrong order... played all 3 today (on Ride the Lightning now, started with Kill 'em All) |
| [00:08:23] | wagnerrp: | i had a copy of RTL at one point |
| [00:08:27] | wagnerrp: | no idea where it went |
| [00:08:32] | Beirdo: | this is my second copy |
| [00:08:37] | Beirdo: | I broke the first CD |
| [00:08:39] | Beirdo: | oops |
| [00:08:47] | Beirdo: | I want all three on vinyl |
| [00:09:01] | Beirdo: | but, even used... they go for > $20 each, usually |
| [00:09:43] | wagnerrp: | did you know theres an Unforgiven III now? |
| [00:09:50] | Beirdo: | whaaaa? |
| [00:09:51] | wagnerrp: | madness... |
| [00:10:04] | Beirdo: | that cow has already been milked... move on! |
| [00:10:07] | wagnerrp: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Magnetic#Track_listing |
| [00:10:31] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [00:12:15] | Beirdo: | gotta say, I like the *song* Ride the Lightning better when sung by Dave Mustaine |
| [00:12:44] | Beirdo: | it was his song |
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| [00:21:55] | Beirdo: | I didn't know that. |
| [00:22:16] | Beirdo: | the intro to "For Whom the Bell Tolls"... is played on a bass, not guitar |
| [00:22:47] | Beirdo: | niiice. Wikipedia is full of useless details :) |
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| [00:36:00] | Oleg_: | I don't understand. Here http://markmail.org/message/7n2673b35u5236dt , a guy mentions the same tuner that I bought |
| [00:36:11] | Oleg_: | which means it should work on freebsd |
| [00:36:54] | wagnerrp: | you bought a PCI card that hasnt been manufactured since like 2007? |
| [00:37:09] | Oleg_: | no, I am talking about the usb tuner |
| [00:37:41] | wagnerrp: | oh, the pinnacle one |
| [00:37:45] | Oleg_: | yes |
| [00:37:56] | wagnerrp: | well, like i said, its not supported under freebsd |
| [00:38:03] | wagnerrp: | its supported under linux, and interpreted using webcamd |
| [00:38:44] | Oleg_: | he said he's happy with it |
| [00:38:46] | wagnerrp: | and with all such interpretation layers, there is a lot of fuzziness in how well it actually works |
| [00:41:31] | Oleg_: | well, if he's happy with it, that must mean something |
| [00:41:39] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yes, preview images will be ref'ed in the DB after the recordedfile schema changes--which is why I took #8471 |
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| [00:47:14] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, and I am not able to get it to work under linux also |
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| [01:41:14] | Oleg_: | are any of you fans of the show "The Vampire Diaries"? |
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| [01:58:44] | Oryx: | Are there any alternatives to mythtv for live tv watching for ATSC/DVB video? |
| [01:59:04] | Oryx: | mythtv seems to work wonderfully, but I don't have enough space on this SSD drive to watch live tv :D |
| [02:00:57] | wagnerrp: | buy a drive designed for capacity rather than speed |
| [02:01:07] | wagnerrp: | if you are using mythtv, then you record everything |
| [02:01:11] | sphery: | hehe, I like your way of thinking... mythtv for recordings and an alternative for livetv |
| [02:01:18] | wagnerrp: | if you dont want to record, then mythtv or any other dvr is not for you |
| [02:01:23] | wagnerrp: | try mplayer or kaffeine |
| [02:01:24] | sphery: | because mythtv is THE alternative to live tv :) |
| [02:04:46] | Oleg_: | sphery, so you are a fan of "Supernatural". What about "The Vampire Diaries"? |
| [02:09:12] | Oryx: | wagnerrp, ah that's what I was looking for (this is for when I'm watching on the netbook, I have a desktop and another card for DVR :) |
| [02:09:36] | wagnerrp: | Oryx: then stick both cards in the desktop, run mythbackend |
| [02:09:42] | wagnerrp: | and run your netbook as a remote frontend |
| [02:09:44] | Oryx: | haha |
| [02:10:10] | Oryx: | That's not a bad idea :) |
| [02:11:19] | sphery: | Oleg_: I've recorded diaries, but haven't watched any, yet... I also lost the pilot and some other episodes in the last great HDD failure, so don't know if it's worth watching without |
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| [02:12:23] | Oleg_: | sphery, you can buy blu-ray discs with season 1 and season 1 of vampire diaries |
| [02:12:38] | Oleg_: | *season 1 and season 2 |
| [02:13:05] | dardack_home: | change my router, and now my backend is getting a diff IP then it's always had, on the backend, I run mythtv-setup, it brings me to the choose language, i do that, it then brings me to the server info, I keep changing the IP to correct IP, but when I click finish, the output says it's pinging the old address, can anyone help me? |
| [02:13:13] | sphery: | hehe, but the show has to be one I love for me to get it on disc |
| [02:13:23] | sphery: | and until I watch it, how will I know if I love it? :) |
| [02:14:35] | sphery: | dardack_home: did you change the master backend ip address /and/ the "this backend" IP address? |
| [02:14:40] | dardack_home: | yes |
| [02:14:43] | dardack_home: | but i figured it out |
| [02:14:50] | dardack_home: | somehow root got ownership of mysql.txt |
| [02:14:58] | sphery: | ahh, so it couldn't overwrite... |
| [02:15:02] | dardack_home: | srsly i've done nothing with this machine for years |
| [02:15:03] | sphery: | glad you got it |
| [02:15:04] | dardack_home: | no clue how that happened |
| [02:15:06] | dardack_home: | ty |
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| [02:18:55] | dardack_home: | does a pvr500 have 1 or 2 entries under lspci? |
| [02:19:25] | [R]: | 1, its 1 card |
| [02:19:47] | sphery: | will have multiple devices under /dev/ |
| [02:19:48] | dardack_home: | hmmm ok lspci see's all 3 of my cards, but only 1 250 and the 2 500's are initialized by ivtv |
| [02:21:34] | dardack_home: | any reason that would happen |
| [02:21:36] | dardack_home: | ? |
| [02:22:24] | [R]: | 1 250 and 2 500s sounds like 3... |
| [02:22:51] | dardack_home: | sorry think i misspoke, I have 2 250's, 1 500, ivtv initializes the first 250, then the 2 tuners on the 500 |
| [02:22:57] | dardack_home: | but not the second 250 |
| [02:23:01] | dardack_home: | lspci lists 3 cards |
| [02:23:33] | [R]: | what do you mean "ivtv initializes" |
| [02:23:42] | dardack_home: | when you boot up if you look at dmesg |
| [02:23:51] | dardack_home: | ivtv is the driver, says initalizing |
| [02:24:09] | [R]: | sounds like an ivtv problem |
| [02:24:12] | [R]: | not a myth problem |
| [02:24:22] | dardack_home: | damn it worked fine 30 min ago |
| [02:24:24] | dardack_home: | sigh |
| [02:33:35] | wagnerrp: | meaning you only have /dev/video[012], no /dev/video3 ? |
| [02:34:32] | wagnerrp: | usually the problem with that many IVTV cards is that they shift around, and you have to ensure the proper tuner is connected to the proper IR blaster each time |
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| [02:55:53] | Oleg_: | Look: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mu . . . /011594.html |
| [02:56:04] | Oleg_: | it means that this stick should be able to work under freebsd |
| [02:56:12] | Oleg_: | so, why am I unable to make it work? |
| [02:56:34] | Oleg_: | maybe I need to load a different firmware? |
| [02:59:44] | wagnerrp: | actually, that post reports all sorts of errors trying to use that tuner with freebsd |
| [03:00:02] | Oleg_: | but he said he was able to make it work |
| [03:00:15] | Oleg_: | he had recording problems that he fixed later |
| [03:00:40] | Oleg_: | he was able to watch live tv with it, and I am unable to find any channels with it |
| [03:00:43] | Oleg_: | I have no clue why |
| [03:01:36] | Oleg_: | though his webcamd output is a bit different from mine |
| [03:01:39] | Oleg_: | Mine is this: |
| [03:01:49] | Oleg_: | Attached ugen4.3[0] to cuse unit 0 |
| [03:01:50] | Oleg_: | Loading firmware at '/boot/modules/dvb-usb-dib0700–1.20.fw', f=7 |
| [03:01:50] | Oleg_: | Creating /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0 |
| [03:01:50] | Oleg_: | Creating /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 |
| [03:01:50] | Oleg_: | Creating /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 |
| [03:01:50] | Oleg_: | Creating /dev/input/event0 |
| [03:02:27] | wagnerrp: | are you done or have you flooded out? |
| [03:02:56] | Oleg_: | sorry, it wasn't too many lines |
| [03:03:06] | wagnerrp: | yes it was |
| [03:03:09] | wagnerrp: | channel rules say two |
| [03:03:11] | Oleg_: | then sorry |
| [03:03:39] | wagnerrp: | normally, somewhere around 8–10 lines, the freenode flood filter kicks in |
| [03:03:50] | wagnerrp: | and lines slowly come in over the next several minutes |
| [03:03:56] | Oleg_: | ok, I won't do it again |
| [03:04:35] | wagnerrp: | few people in here are running mythtv on freebsd |
| [03:04:44] | wagnerrp: | fewer still (if any) trying to use webcamd |
| [03:04:53] | Oleg_: | hehe |
| [03:04:57] | wagnerrp: | you may find better luck on the freebsd mailing lists |
| [03:05:17] | wagnerrp: | if i had any experience with it, i would help |
| [03:05:30] | wagnerrp: | but i simply dont even have any USB tuners to try with freebsd/webcamd |
| [03:05:44] | Oleg_: | ok |
| [03:05:54] | wagnerrp: | honestly, i try to avoid USB devices like the plague |
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| [03:13:50] | k-man: | wagnerrp, me too |
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| [03:27:48] | k-man: | I like the hdhomerun network tuner concept |
| [03:29:56] | wagnerrp: | well... thats really what mythtv is supposed to be fore |
| [03:30:09] | wagnerrp: | but the network attached tuner tends to be fairly universally compatible |
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| [04:45:09] | Oleg_: | yes!! I fixed the problem!! |
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| [04:48:23] | Oleg_: | finally I am able to watch and record TV on freebsd |
| [04:48:35] | ** wagnerrp has been doing so for years ** | |
| [04:49:28] | Oleg_: | and how do you do it without a pci card or usb tuner that freebsd supports? |
| [04:50:01] | wagnerrp: | hdhomerun |
| [04:50:08] | Oleg_: | oh, ok |
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| [04:50:28] | Oleg_: | what's your cable provider? |
| [04:50:38] | wagnerrp: | insight |
| [04:51:20] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, you are the man. you were the one who told me that freebsd supports usb tuners through webcamd |
| [04:51:42] | Oleg_: | thanks |
| [04:51:45] | Rubin: | so i signed up with schedulesdirect, and have a week free or w/e, and put in my username and password to mythtv-setup, but there are no schedules showing up (viewing via mythweb at the moment while installing frontend) any ideas? |
| [04:52:19] | wagnerrp: | Rubin: is this analog or digital? |
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| [04:52:28] | Rubin: | over the air digital |
| [04:52:33] | Rubin: | (minneapolis) |
| [04:53:10] | wagnerrp: | you need to scan for channels first, and then mythfilldatabase will do its best to match up the broadcast callsigns with the channel names on your scheduled direct lineup |
| [04:53:27] | wagnerrp: | anything that cannot be automatically matched, you will have to go into the channel editor and manually supply the xmltvid |
| [04:53:28] | Rubin: | i have done a channel scan |
| [04:53:44] | wagnerrp: | after a subsequent run of mythfilldatabase, it will populate guide data for the remaining channels |
| [04:54:42] | Rubin: | ok i'll look in the chan editor |
| [04:54:44] | Rubin: | thanks |
| [04:57:58] | Rubin: | another question... |
| [04:58:07] | Rubin: | User Notice at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/classes/MythBackend.php, line 124: |
| [04:58:07] | Rubin: | Failed to set php timezone to CDT Response from backend was Array ( [0] => CDT [1] => -18000 [2] => 2011-10–20T22:02:51 ) |
| [04:58:07] | MythLogBot: | No match for SVN revision 0 |
| [04:58:07] | MythLogBot: | SVN 1: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/ce7a5f62 |
| [04:58:08] | MythLogBot: | SVN 2: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/654df684 |
| [04:58:17] | Rubin: | getting that on top of every mythweb page |
| [04:58:37] | Rubin: | tried turning user notice errors in php.ini off, but it seems tobe overriding it somewhere |
| [04:58:41] | wagnerrp: | dont know about that one |
| [04:58:49] | wagnerrp: | look into how you specify a timezone for php |
| [04:59:02] | Rubin: | i did, my php.ini is set correctly |
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| [05:11:27] | Oleg_: | there is one problem remaining. Even though I entered username/password for schedulesdirect and it seems to be recognized by mythtv, I don't get any info about the program I am running on a particular channel |
| [05:11:42] | Oleg_: | also, the program guide just says "Unknown" for everything |
| [05:11:50] | wagnerrp: | do you have EIT enabled on that channel? |
| [05:12:07] | wagnerrp: | if you do, the EIT may override the existing data with such garbage |
| [05:12:21] | wagnerrp: | alternatively, did you make sure all your channels had xmltvids? |
| [05:12:36] | Oleg_: | xmltvids? |
| [05:13:04] | wagnerrp: | as explained previously, mythfilldatabase will attempt to match the scanned channels with their counterparts on schedules direct as best as it can using the channel names |
| [05:13:27] | wagnerrp: | but for instance, the scanner may have picked up WNBCHD, while schedules direct has a record for WNBCDT |
| [05:13:33] | wagnerrp: | or something along those lines |
| [05:13:54] | wagnerrp: | once you scan, run mythfilldatabase once, and it will make as many matches as it can |
| [05:13:58] | Oleg_: | the program says "Unknown" next to every channel that is listed |
| [05:14:03] | Oleg_: | *guide |
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| [05:14:13] | wagnerrp: | then you go back through in the channel editor to specify xmltvids for the remaining channels that failed to match |
| [05:14:27] | wagnerrp: | you can mouse over channels on the schedules direct website to get their xmltvid |
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| [05:22:30] | Oleg_: | that fixed it. thanks |
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| [05:53:00] | lapion: | is there any plugin that lets the status show how many (maybe also which) clients are connected to the be ? |
| [05:53:25] | wagnerrp: | no, the backend socket server is not currently set up to feed that information |
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| [06:01:14] | lapion: | The analog channel changing problem seems to be related to the be not creating a correct file.. |
| [06:01:35] | lapion: | the created new file has no header |
| [06:02:18] | wagnerrp: | that would affect playback, but recording wouldnt care |
| [06:02:34] | wagnerrp: | it would just continue blindly dumping data into the file |
| [06:02:51] | wagnerrp: | unless youre saying that the frontend failed to playback the channel, dropped back to the main menu |
| [06:02:59] | wagnerrp: | thus terminating the livetv session and the recording |
| [06:03:23] | lapion: | yes |
| [06:03:29] | lapion: | exactly |
| [06:05:56] | lapion: | even worse if a preprogrammed recording make the be change channel while recording livetv the result is not only that the live tv stops, but also the resulting recording ( erven thought the list shows that it is growing ) is a useless dummy |
| [06:06:23] | wagnerrp: | so the easy solution... stop using livetv |
| [06:06:24] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [06:07:46] | lapion: | well I just alternate between digital channels and analog ones |
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| [06:15:41] | lapion: | well without livetv you it's hard to be surprised by the odd program you happen to zap upon. |
| [06:16:00] | wagnerrp: | thats why you record everything that might be of interest to you |
| [06:16:05] | wagnerrp: | sort through them later |
| [06:17:09] | lapion: | you never know what you happen to stumble upon, you might be surprised by a program you would normally never watch |
| [06:20:02] | wagnerrp: | thats why you need to get more tuners |
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| [06:36:07] | lapion: | is it possible to let the be alternate tuners when changing channels ? |
| [06:36:37] | wagnerrp: | there is an option to change channels across tuners |
| [06:36:46] | wagnerrp: | or at least there used to be, dont know if it still exists |
| [06:36:53] | wagnerrp: | but that was more to allow you to scan across sources |
| [06:36:57] | wagnerrp: | not alternate between tuners |
| [06:37:17] | wagnerrp: | and as you can imagine, it came with some bad implications about disrupting recordings and other active sessions |
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| [06:40:07] | justinh: | if somebody comes up with a better way to deal with multiple recordings from one tuner *and* still allow livetv to be flexible this 'problem' can be fixed. There isn't exactly a queue of people with better ideas :-P |
| [06:40:21] | wagnerrp: | of course there is |
| [06:40:30] | wagnerrp: | there are tons of people with "better ideas" |
| [06:40:47] | wagnerrp: | just no one to take action and put those "better ideas" into code |
| [06:44:00] | justinh: | lapion: the big problem with 'zapping' is that with so many channels nowadays you'd invariably miss at least some of any interesting show you stumble upon. Certainly by the time you've browsed the EPG of a few tens of channels |
| [06:44:02] | lapion: | btw if I where to only rely on programming recordings, I wouldn't be able to follow important spur of the moment program changes such as news |
| [06:44:15] | wagnerrp: | thats what the internet is for |
| [06:44:19] | lapion: | just 30 channels here |
| [06:44:28] | justinh: | lapion: wrong. schedule news shows to be recorded too |
| [06:45:15] | justinh: | infact mythtv is ideal at dealing with that scenario. Always record at this time, keep at most X recordings of it :-) |
| [06:45:27] | lapion: | spur of the moment news... |
| [06:45:40] | justinh: | I hate it when they interrupt programming with 'news' |
| [06:45:56] | wagnerrp: | how would you know about spur of the moment news unless you just happened to be watching that channel? |
| [06:46:12] | lapion: | untill the news tells you there is gas cloud in your neighbourhood |
| [06:46:14] | justinh: | when Diana died I was livid that a whole 2 days viewing was *ruined* by the death of somebody I couldn't give a damn about |
| [06:46:14] | wagnerrp: | very rarely is there ever spur of the moment news that actually needs to be known right now |
| [06:46:40] | wagnerrp: | if there is a gas cloud in your neighborhood, then you hear the sirens go off and you turn of the tv |
| [06:46:54] | wagnerrp: | justinh: didnt that happen in the 90s? mythtv wasnt around then |
| [06:47:01] | justinh: | all the arguments *for* having live tv are pretty weak IMHO |
| [06:47:13] | wagnerrp: | s/of/on/ |
| [06:47:19] | justinh: | wagnerrp: if I'd had mythtv I could've just sat & watched recordings :-) |
| [06:47:36] | wagnerrp: | i misread |
| [06:47:51] | wagnerrp: | i thought you were saying you kept seeing those things in recordings for several days afterwards |
| [06:48:00] | justinh: | heh nope |
| [06:48:03] | wagnerrp: | not that they kept breaking into regularly scheduled programming for several days |
| [06:48:24] | lapion: | having live tv frees us from the tiranny of having to plan everything we watch each day |
| [06:48:50] | justinh: | it was bad enough that me & my ex had got together for one night the night before, and we were dragged out of bed at 4am to be told the news. Grr |
| [06:49:02] | wagnerrp: | lapion: having mythtv frees us from the tyranny of having to plan everything we watch every day |
| [06:49:04] | lapion: | I mean I pla a lot that I want to watch, but then there are the tibits I just want to freewheel.. |
| [06:49:07] | wagnerrp: | record what you want to watch |
| [06:49:13] | wagnerrp: | record what you may want to watch |
| [06:49:21] | wagnerrp: | record all sorts of crap you dont even know you want to watch |
| [06:49:28] | justinh: | get more tuners. get more storage. record more stuff |
| [06:49:35] | wagnerrp: | add some power rules to automatically pick up new and wondrous shows |
| [06:49:44] | justinh: | I used to be a live tv guy. not since I got mythtv |
| [06:49:51] | wagnerrp: | record it all now, sorts it out later |
| [06:50:01] | wagnerrp: | take sphery for example |
| [06:50:06] | justinh: | I used to waste *hours* trying to find something to watch |
| [06:50:18] | wagnerrp: | he basically records every scripted series on broadcast tv |
| [06:50:18] | lapion: | in that case never would have happened to stumble upon firefly.. |
| [06:50:35] | wagnerrp: | you would have, because six months down the line, you would have been looking for something to watch |
| [06:50:38] | justinh: | I'd be surprised if in any given 2 hour period *anybody* manages to find something to watch within a reasonable time without missing some crucial part of the show |
| [06:50:43] | lapion: | was not on any schedule anywhere |
| [06:50:46] | wagnerrp: | and would have the whole series queued up and ready to play |
| [06:51:31] | wagnerrp: | if it was not on any schedule, then you could not have watched it |
| [06:52:01] | justinh: | I liked that demo machine the BBC put together. it recorded every channel & kept one whole week's worth of recordings. you could 'zap' around channels up to one week ago :P |
| [06:54:07] | justinh: | they should've released the source for that software. it was an interesting take on a DVR |
| [06:55:01] | wagnerrp: | i think denzel washington made a movie about that DVR |
| [06:55:15] | justinh: | anyway as far as livetv is concerned in mythtv, you ain't gonna find many sympathisers among the regulars & developers |
| [06:55:48] | justinh: | if you value live tv that much, use something else |
| [06:56:02] | justinh: | or just use livetv without mythtv |
| [06:57:25] | justinh: | FWIW though, whenever I realise somethig is on that I've missed setting up a scheduled recording for all I have to do is press my remote's GUIDE button & I can hit record on that show pretty darn quickly |
| [06:59:13] | justinh: | I think I only ever run into conflicts at Christmas ish time, thanks to being able to record 5 channels from each of my 3 tuners :P |
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| [07:03:45] | justinh: | wha? some of these NMT music player hacks can use fanart for *music* now? :-O |
| [07:05:55] | justinh: | oo. a new artwork source. htbackdrops.com. and they have an API |
| [07:06:44] | justinh: | ROFL. They say they urgently require fanart for a list of artists/bands .... and Gary Glitter is in the list. I can't see anybody rushing to fill that |
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| [07:10:04] | justinh: | I wonder, do they even *know* why gary glitter should be allowed to disappear from the face of the earth? |
| [07:11:40] | justinh: | hey, they have game artwork too |
| [07:11:57] | ** wagnerrp has no idea who gary glitter is ** | |
| [07:12:05] | justinh: | if ever there was a mythtv plugin crying out to be all artworked up it's mythgame |
| [07:12:08] | ** wagnerrp assumes that makes him fortunate ** | |
| [07:12:25] | ** wagnerrp thinks mythgame has artwork and a metadata grabber ** | |
| [07:13:18] | justinh: | wagnerrp: he's a 'glam rock' artist from the 1970s, more recently accused & successfully prosecuted for sexuall abusing kids |
| [07:13:36] | wagnerrp: | HAH |
| [07:13:39] | justinh: | wagnerrp: you're probably right. I've not looked at mythgame for ages |
| [07:13:41] | wagnerrp: | for some reason, thats not surprising |
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| [07:15:55] | justinh: | some places still play 'another rock & roll christmas' on their "drive your employees nuts" muzak tracks in the festive period |
| [07:17:25] | justinh: | ah mythgame uses the giantbomb site already |
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| [07:26:02] | Oleg_: | I am curious how dvr programs, such as Windows Media Center and WinTV, are able to function without mysql server running. How do they store data for the shows one watches/records? |
| [07:26:22] | justinh: | in the case of MCE, probably in your registry :P |
| [07:26:34] | wagnerrp: | MCE likely runs some embedded mysql server |
| [07:26:43] | justinh: | in the registry :D |
| [07:26:45] | wagnerrp: | s/mysql/mssql/ |
| [07:26:54] | wagnerrp: | and wintv can hardly be called a dvr |
| [07:27:04] | wagnerrp: | more a glorified software VCR |
| [07:27:05] | justinh: | nah, in all seriousness I think MCE stores metadata in the recorded files |
| [07:27:19] | justinh: | their 'special' container |
| [07:27:29] | wagnerrp: | dvrms |
| [07:27:31] | justinh: | y'know, the one with all that nice DRM |
| [07:28:03] | justinh: | I remember laughing out loud when I read that even mediaportal are using sql now |
| [07:28:42] | justinh: | after all the bitching I've seen in this channel & on the -users list about why mythtv even needs a database |
| [07:28:44] | Rubin: | hrm ok. so now whenever i run mythfrontend, its trying to connect to 127.0.0.1:6543 instead of to my backend. i changed mysql.txt and verified that config.xml is correct... where is it getting this? |
| [07:28:59] | justinh: | Rubin: it's getting it from the backend, funnily enough |
| [07:29:04] | justinh: | or rather, from the database |
| [07:29:15] | wagnerrp: | Rubin: mysql.txt and config.xml point at the location of the database |
| [07:29:25] | Rubin: | oh i see |
| [07:29:30] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend connects to the database, and pulls the location of the backend you configured in mythtv-setup |
| [07:29:38] | justinh: | make sure your backend is set up to bind to the LAN IP not 127.0.0.1 |
| [07:29:39] | wagnerrp: | so run mythtv-setup on the machine that runs your backend |
| [07:29:45] | Rubin: | so i need to run mythtv-setup again and not tell it localhost |
| [07:29:48] | wagnerrp: | and change the two addresses you see in general setup |
| [07:29:50] | Rubin: | gotcha |
| [07:29:59] | wagnerrp: | address, not domain names |
| [07:30:05] | wagnerrp: | localhost will not work, period |
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| [07:30:25] | justinh: | not names? so that still doesn't work yet? |
| [07:31:03] | justinh: | I've always just used ip addresses – mostly cos I can never be bothered to set up name resolution for a mere handful of machines on my network at home |
| [07:31:22] | justinh: | I mean I edit /etc/hosts & put hostnames in there butbeyond that... |
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| [07:34:13] | justinh: | ah. in 0.24-fixes the setup fields now say 'IP address' where previously didn't they used to say 'hostname' ? |
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| [07:34:27] | wagnerrp: | pretty sure it always said ip address |
| [07:34:39] | wagnerrp: | i remember being corrected some time around 0.19 or 0.20 |
| [07:34:56] | justinh: | shows how often I've needed to go in there & look |
| [07:35:08] | wagnerrp: | i had just set up a DNS server, and changed everything to hostnames |
| [07:35:11] | wagnerrp: | only to find it not working |
| [07:35:23] | wagnerrp: | so of course i changed it back, it worked, and i was confused |
| [07:35:38] | justinh: | I bet |
| [07:35:48] | justinh: | I remember it saying 'hostname' for so, so long |
| [07:35:48] | wagnerrp: | so i popped in here, and was told that when it said 'ip address', it really meant 'ip address' |
| [07:36:04] | wagnerrp: | not corrected, but correct |
| [07:36:16] | wagnerrp: | its always been ip address as long as ive been using myth |
| [07:36:29] | wagnerrp: | this was probably late 2006 |
| [07:36:35] | justinh: | I wonder where I've got the impression it was changed |
| [07:37:00] | justinh: | as my memory goes this was quite a recent change |
| [07:37:56] | wagnerrp: | time jumbles into an amorphous mess with offspring induced insomnia |
| [07:38:12] | justinh: | heh you're not wrong |
| [07:40:32] | justinh: | hmm just had the bright idea of putting fanart in my music videos folders, but that won't work will it? |
| [07:40:59] | wagnerrp: | nope, theyve got to be mapped to the video in the database |
| [07:41:09] | wagnerrp: | theres no such thing like the folder.jpg |
| [07:41:46] | justinh: | pity. |
| [07:42:54] | justinh: | then again, I could just add the fanart myself & plop it onto all the videos for that artist |
| [07:43:04] | justinh: | solved :) |
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| [07:50:38] | justinh: | btw still not seen any backend deadlocks in a while :-) |
| [08:06:46] | justinh: | ouch. a segfault in mythfrontend |
| [08:09:38] | justinh: | nah can't reproduce it |
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| [10:42:11] | ahhughez: | ermmmm, got a new error says that tuners and busy but there is no recording taking place. and under info on the front end it says "Error" against my tuner. |
| [10:42:20] | ahhughez: | I got nfi how to tell what is wrong. |
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| [11:25:35] | esperegu: | is this normal: http://dpaste.com/638593/ ?? |
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| [14:54:01] | wagnerrp: | ok, google just seriously creeped me out |
| [14:54:25] | wagnerrp: | someone made a bit of spam on trac last night |
| [14:54:48] | wagnerrp: | so searching them down through google turns up a bunch of posts on various forums, several russian |
| [14:54:58] | wagnerrp: | so i pop up google translate |
| [14:55:09] | wagnerrp: | and lo! it's already configured for russian to english |
| [14:55:52] | justinh: | heh |
| [14:56:16] | justinh: | god, I wish getting fanart for tv shows was easier |
| [14:57:06] | justinh: | I know it's easy once it's up on thetvdb – but getting it to put on there is the tricky bit |
| [14:57:45] | justinh: | I think there might be a sneaky backdoor way to find press images bigger than the ones contained in webpages, in some cases |
| [14:58:07] | wagnerrp: | fan art mean... art produced by fans |
| [14:58:15] | wagnerrp: | are you talking about coverart? |
| [14:58:22] | wagnerrp: | posters and the like? |
| [14:58:24] | justinh: | yes but derived from promotional images usually |
| [14:58:32] | justinh: | no. fanart |
| [14:58:51] | justinh: | it's really hard getting anything about 400 pixels high for any UK TV show |
| [14:59:09] | justinh: | s/about/above |
| [14:59:33] | justinh: | gotta be a magician to make good fanart out of such low res material |
| [15:00:58] | justinh: | sure I could always grab some stills from a recording, as so many on thetvdb do, but that's almost as bad as having no imagery IMHO |
| [15:01:45] | wagnerrp: | hahaha |
| [15:01:58] | wagnerrp: | captchabot.com |
| [15:02:13] | wagnerrp: | we provide paid solving of captcha images for use 'for fun' |
| [15:02:25] | wagnerrp: | not to be used for spam, carding, and fraud |
| [15:03:11] | wagnerrp: | apparently you cant simply subscribe, you have to be invited by another user |
| [15:03:11] | justinh: | riiight |
| [15:03:30] | wagnerrp: | and this guy was talking on a forum trading those |
| [15:03:45] | wagnerrp: | a forum for a piece of software designed to automate form filling on websites |
| [15:04:22] | justinh: | time to head home I think. I'll see if I can conjure up some fanart later |
| [15:05:40] | wagnerrp: | wow... |
| [15:06:07] | wagnerrp: | heres a thread about a new version of the software being released that has support of processing captchas |
| [15:06:24] | wagnerrp: | "small step for a program but a big leap for the zenno users" |
| [15:10:01] | Rubin: | so can i run mythtv-setup on a frontend-only machine and it'll work remotely onto the backend? |
| [15:10:13] | Rubin: | or do i need a screen on my backend? |
| [15:10:20] | wagnerrp: | no, mythtv-setup must be run on the machine you wish to make the changes to |
| [15:10:33] | wagnerrp: | no, you do not need a monitor connected to your backend to run it |
| [15:10:42] | wagnerrp: | recall, X is network transparent |
| [15:10:53] | Rubin: | yeah i was doing it that way, its just slow |
| [15:11:03] | wagnerrp: | what was slow? |
| [15:11:40] | wagnerrp: | X pumped over ssh over a local wired network should be extremely fast |
| [15:11:41] | Rubin: | moving between options on the main screen, and gksudo trying to darken my local screen over x forwarding |
| [15:11:59] | Rubin: | (for stopping the backend) |
| [15:12:02] | wagnerrp: | nearly as fast as local users for anything but high motion animations, or perhaps some opengl stuff |
| [15:12:08] | Rubin: | hm |
| [15:12:13] | wagnerrp: | gksudo may be using opengl for that effect |
| [15:12:46] | wagnerrp: | or if it is a fading animation, that would be pretty intensive |
| [15:12:52] | Rubin: | yeah thats what it is |
| [15:13:30] | Rubin: | so do most people setup ssh keys and make something in the myth interface to run the setup remote? |
| [15:13:46] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
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| [15:14:23] | wagnerrp: | you should rarely need to go into the setup |
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| [15:14:42] | wagnerrp: | the only time you need to do so would be to add/remove a card, or mess with channels |
| [15:15:19] | Rubin: | ok point taken |
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| [15:16:45] | wagnerrp: | this is downright disturbing |
| [15:17:09] | wagnerrp: | all these programs and services have well designed web pages put up, like theyre actually providing a legitimate business |
| [15:17:28] | wagnerrp: | programs for generating web spam, services for SEO.... |
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| [15:17:56] | Rubin: | gotta love the internet |
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| [15:19:12] | wagnerrp: | man... none of this would have happened if the soviet union was still active and repressing their internet access |
| [15:19:36] | wagnerrp: | damn you reagan, why did you have to tear down the wall |
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| [16:31:18] | esperegu: | how one has to set the input groups? I now have : http://dpaste.com/638593/ which looks very messy but maybe this is normal? |
| [16:32:09] | esperegu: | I have a dvb-S2 card with 2 connectors both connected to a sat dish with a switch with 4lnbs |
| [16:32:20] | esperegu: | only 2 of the lnb's are configured |
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| [16:53:24] | wagnerrp: | esperegu: input groups are only used if you have mutually exclusive tuners |
| [16:53:34] | wagnerrp: | such as firewire and analog capture off a single STB |
| [16:53:54] | wagnerrp: | or a hybrid tuner card that appears as separate analog and digital cards, but only one mode can be used at a time |
| [16:54:57] | wagnerrp: | for DVB-S stuff, you need to configure the diseqc tree |
| [17:01:29] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: I get 4 encoders in the encoder status section on mythweb. how to figure out which is connected to which? |
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| [17:02:08] | wagnerrp: | each digital tuner can have up to five "encoders", or virtual tuners |
| [17:02:20] | wagnerrp: | a virtual tuner allows mythtv to record multiple streams on the same multiplex simultaneously |
| [17:02:42] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: but it can only use one at the same time |
| [17:03:04] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: but when I select two items to record it selects the first tow |
| [17:03:06] | esperegu: | two |
| [17:03:18] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: I would expect it to take 1&3 |
| [17:03:21] | wagnerrp: | what can only use one at the same time? |
| [17:03:38] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: the dvb-S2 card only has two connectors |
| [17:03:43] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [17:03:51] | wagnerrp: | for two separate physical tuners |
| [17:03:58] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: but I have 4 encoders |
| [17:04:04] | wagnerrp: | each of which, by default in mythtv, has two virtual tuners each |
| [17:04:13] | esperegu: | yes |
| [17:04:24] | wagnerrp: | if you are recording two shows on the same multiplex (or transpoder) at the same time |
| [17:04:28] | esperegu: | doesn't 1&2 have to belong to the first card? |
| [17:04:30] | wagnerrp: | mythtv can record those using a single physical tuner |
| [17:04:48] | wagnerrp: | if the two simultaneous recordings are on different multiplexes |
| [17:05:10] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will realize it cannot use encoder 2 to record the show, so will use encoder 3 on the second physical tuner instead |
| [17:05:25] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: sounds fantastic :-) |
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| [17:05:39] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: does that also apply for live tv? |
| [17:05:53] | wagnerrp: | yes, with some funky behavior that comes as a result |
| [17:06:18] | wagnerrp: | if you are on a physical user that is already in use by another recording or livetv session |
| [17:06:24] | wagnerrp: | you will be limited to those channels on that multiplex |
| [17:06:41] | wagnerrp: | if you wish to access other channels, you must manually change cards |
| [17:06:55] | esperegu: | can't that be done auto? |
| [17:07:07] | wagnerrp: | it could, but the code is not currently written |
| [17:07:12] | esperegu: | aha |
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| [17:07:23] | wagnerrp: | and by doing it automatically, you may not realize that it could be disruptive of later recordings |
| [17:07:38] | wagnerrp: | if you are using both tuners on different multiplexes for livetv |
| [17:07:46] | wagnerrp: | a recording will not be able to access a third |
| [17:07:55] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: it could just give a warning and request for confirmation |
| [17:08:26] | wagnerrp: | it could, but you could just as well bind a key to NEXTCARD and do without the warning |
| [17:08:43] | wagnerrp: | there is a warning when all tuners are in use and a new recording is scheduled |
| [17:08:54] | wagnerrp: | it will ask you if you want to terminate the livetv session in favor of the recording |
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| [17:10:42] | wagnerrp: | as a general rule, mythtv is designed and optimized for use recording tv for later viewing |
| [17:10:56] | wagnerrp: | livetv use is a second class citizen |
| [17:13:34] | esperegu: | hihi |
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| [17:48:21] | Gumby: | hi all, My DVB setup has some channels in it that aren't always being broadcast. This causes an issue when I have been watching something, then turn off livetv, and then turn livetv on again but now there is nothing being broadcast on that channel. Mythtv ends up saying 'Error opening jump program file'. Is there a way to get around this? |
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| [17:49:00] | wagnerrp: | you should have a decently long timeout while mythtv is trying to tune the channel, during which you can change to another channel |
| [17:49:53] | Gumby: | yeah, sometimes that is the case.. but not always. This time it tries to tune and almost immediately goes back to the main menu |
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| [17:50:47] | Gumby: | I was just wondering if there is somewhere in the DB I can edit "last channel" for a given input |
| [17:51:23] | wagnerrp: | you can go into mythtv-setup, to that input on the tuner card, and change the starting channel in the dropdown |
| [17:51:57] | Gumby: | I've tried that... it doesn't seem to be obeying that. Instead it is going to the last channel mythtv had tuned. |
| [17:52:08] | Gumby: | I thought the start channel would be correct also |
| [17:52:11] | Gumby: | but no dice |
| [17:52:33] | wagnerrp: | is the last channel mythtv had tuned on that input |
| [17:52:47] | wagnerrp: | if livetv starts on a different input, then you changed the wrong value |
| [17:53:18] | Gumby: | I have 8 inputs/values.. none of them are the channel it is trying to tune to |
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| [17:58:31] | ** wagnerrp wonders why he has an episode of bones both in mythvideo and recordings ** | |
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| [18:32:51] | wagnerrp: | f--ing newt gingrich |
| [18:33:16] | wagnerrp: | i recently got a second number for a distinctive ring for a fax |
| [18:33:33] | wagnerrp: | and some damn autodialer for newt gingrich hits it every couple hours |
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| [20:14:25] | skd5aner: | yay – my desktop hdd is starting to give up the ghost |
| [20:15:17] | skd5aner: | and there's no good deals on any 2TB drives right now :P |
| [20:19:57] | Beirdo: | any deal's a better deal than a drive dying |
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| [20:20:55] | wagnerrp: | a 2TB drive for a desktop? |
| [20:20:58] | wagnerrp: | seems like a waste |
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| [20:23:29] | wagnerrp: | why not just get like a single platter 500GB, or SSD, and access storage on your backend? |
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| [20:25:04] | wagnerrp: | like... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227725 |
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| [20:25:42] | Oleg_: | where is "Browse Videos" window? |
| [20:25:46] | Oleg_: | I can't find it |
| [20:25:53] | wagnerrp: | you mean 'watch videos'? |
| [20:26:26] | Oleg_: | I don't remember exactly how it's called |
| [20:26:42] | wagnerrp: | Media Library -> Watch Videos |
| [20:27:22] | Oleg_: | when I start mythtvfrontend on freebsd, I see two windows: TV and Setup |
| [20:27:55] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend, and if thats all you see, you altered your menu theme |
| [20:28:20] | Oleg_: | I don't remember ever doing it |
| [20:28:33] | Oleg_: | how do I set it back to the default menu theme? |
| [20:28:56] | wagnerrp: | i dont recall off hand, likely in Setup -> Appearances |
| [20:29:59] | wagnerrp: | yeah, should be the first item on the first page |
| [20:30:01] | Oleg_: | it says there I am using the classic theme |
| [20:30:08] | wagnerrp: | use the default |
| [20:30:59] | Oleg_: | yeah, now media library appeared |
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| [20:33:59] | Oleg_: | I see Watch Recordings in Media Library, not Watch Videos |
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| [20:34:18] | wagnerrp: | then you dont have mythvideo instaled |
| [20:37:05] | Oleg_: | it's a plugin? |
| [20:37:11] | wagnerrp: | in 0.24 and previous, yes |
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| [20:38:10] | Oleg_: | so, you never compile the port version of mythtv? you compile your own version? |
| [20:38:21] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [20:38:39] | wagnerrp: | when i started using mythtv, the ports version was basically non-functional |
| [20:38:56] | wagnerrp: | and i never got around to changing my behavior |
| [20:39:52] | Oleg_: | yeah, I need to compile mythplugin-mythvideo port |
| [20:40:11] | wagnerrp: | if thats what its called in the ports tree |
| [20:42:11] | Oleg_: | I see it's programmed in C++ |
| [20:42:26] | wagnerrp: | C++/Qt |
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| [20:43:02] | Oleg_: | I took C++ for beginners in college |
| [20:43:11] | Oleg_: | got a C+ grade for that class :) |
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| [20:51:36] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: not for my desktop... I plan on taking one of my 750GB drives out of my mbe and moving it to the desktop, and replacing the drive in the mbe with a 2TB one |
| [20:52:06] | skd5aner: | 2 for one upgrade (the one in my desktop is currently a 500GB) |
| [20:52:21] | wagnerrp: | wow, there are no deals |
| [20:52:36] | skd5aner: | besides, you can usually find 2tb drives for around $80, and even 500GB drives will run you at least $50 |
| [20:52:40] | wagnerrp: | i know i saw a newegg add for a 2TB for $70 earlier this week |
| [20:52:41] | skd5aner: | no sense in buying small |
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| [20:54:58] | wagnerrp: | external 2TB seagate for $70 |
| [20:55:00] | wagnerrp: | ... sold out |
| [20:57:13] | wagnerrp: | buy.com has 3TB carts for $61 |
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| [21:01:02] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: http://www.frys.com/product/6618974 |
| [21:01:10] | wagnerrp: | not great, but decent enough |
| [21:01:30] | skd5aner: | yea, not too bad – thanks! |
| [21:02:11] | wagnerrp: | theres a 512B WD Green for $90 on there as well |
| [21:03:24] | Beirdo: | 512B?! |
| [21:03:33] | Beirdo: | even a floppy holds more than that |
| [21:03:43] | wagnerrp: | 512B blocks, rather than the funky 4KB block EARS models |
| [21:03:48] | Beirdo: | oooh |
| [21:03:57] | wagnerrp: | EARS has 4K blocks, EADS is 512B blocks |
| [21:03:57] | Beirdo: | heh, that makes a difference |
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| [21:08:44] | skd5aner: | Yea, I've got the 4k Samsungs |
| [21:08:48] | skd5aner: | work alright for me |
| [21:09:00] | wagnerrp: | do they actually report as 4K? |
| [21:09:23] | skd5aner: | no, I just did some funky tricks with formating/partitioning |
| [21:09:32] | wagnerrp: | garbage... |
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| [21:14:40] | xavierh: | Does anybody know how to get french channels from UK using mythtv? |
| [21:15:06] | wagnerrp: | you use a big directional antenna on a HAM mast |
| [21:15:45] | wagnerrp: | that presumes youre living on the southern coast |
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| [21:16:50] | xavierh: | :) not that close |
| [21:17:02] | wagnerrp: | i really dont know what answer you were looking for |
| [21:17:11] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, so, what's your favorite OS? |
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| [21:17:29] | wagnerrp: | free.fr only serves customers using them as an ISP |
| [21:17:30] | xavierh: | staellite ? |
| [21:17:52] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: depends on the purpose |
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| [21:18:55] | Oleg_: | well, you use freebsd for mythtv development. what makes it better than linux for that purpose? |
| [21:19:34] | wagnerrp: | its sitting in my basement with a bunch of hard drives, a decent chunk of memory, and acceptable processor |
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| [21:37:10] | xavierh: | wagnerrp: the question wasn't that silly ( http://www.totalsat.co.uk/fransat-tnt-c-21_66.html ) , It was more can it work with mythtv with dvb-s + ci |
| [21:37:38] | wagnerrp: | in which case, its really not french tv |
| [21:37:48] | wagnerrp: | but rather western european tv |
| [21:40:06] | Oleg_: | if I wanna record shows that are broadcast during the same time on different channels, can I use one tuner for recording one show and the other tuner for recording the other show? |
| [21:40:29] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: you have two tuners? |
| [21:40:44] | Oleg_: | yeah, one pci tuner and one usb tuner |
| [21:40:57] | wagnerrp: | then yes, mythtv can use them independently |
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| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | hahah, my cousin's husband has "so and so likes this"... on Hooters. |
| [21:51:17] | Beirdo: | better not let yer wife see that, buddy, she'll kick yer butt good |
| [21:51:36] | Beirdo: | facebook is such a waste of time |
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| [21:57:29] | Beirdo: | oooh, and facebook is pimping Excedrin Migraine to me. How did it know I'm fighting one off still? |
| [22:02:39] | jpabq_: | skd5aner: Did you read about Western Digital primary manufacturing facility getting flooded? That has artificially jacked up the prices of HDs this week. Who knows when the prices will come back down. |
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| [22:03:15] | kormoc: | artificially? Seems pretty natural to me |
| [22:03:25] | kormoc: | unless Seagate went in with a big hose? |
| [22:03:48] | jpabq_: | Kinda like oil. Even though there is plenty of stock, jack up the prices just because there *may* be a shortage. |
| [22:03:49] | wagnerrp: | freeze gun on the water pipes |
| [22:06:04] | jpabq_: | Amazon's price for a 2TB RE-GP jumped up $90 a couple of days ago. Price on that drive has not been that high in almost a year. |
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| [22:37:49] | Beirdo: | it must be beer o'clock by now |
| [22:38:11] | wagnerrp: | nah, its beer 38 |
| [22:38:36] | Beirdo: | 2 more hours. |
| [22:38:38] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [22:38:58] | Beirdo: | OK, this script WILL get reworked. So there. |
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| [22:53:13] | Twiggy2cents: | Saddam, then Bin Laden, and now Gaddafi. Now we just need to find the other four of George Bush's Horcruxes. |
| [22:53:14] | Twiggy2cents: | hehe |
| [22:54:04] | wagnerrp: | Jong Il? |
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| [22:57:14] | Twiggy2cents: | I was just looking at his wikipedia page, is he a one man goverment? He holds almost all the freaking postions |
| [22:57:35] | wagnerrp: | the glorious leader can do anything |
| [22:57:45] | wagnerrp: | are you suggesting otherwise? |
| [22:58:22] | Twiggy2cents: | LOL, so in that case he is both the check and the balance. |
| [22:58:38] | Twiggy2cents: | Have you seen their level of computer tech over there? |
| [22:58:47] | wagnerrp: | the glorious leader does not need checks and balances |
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| [22:59:04] | wagnerrp: | such things are only needed to prevent politicians from taking advantage of the populous |
| [22:59:31] | wagnerrp: | surely you are not suggesting the glorious leader is corrupt |
| [23:00:20] | Twiggy2cents: | I take back my words. I would never accuse N. Korea of being corrupt in any way. |
| [23:00:39] | Twiggy2cents: | Perhaps the friendliness government I know of |
| [23:01:59] | wagnerrp: | thats better, i was afraid were were going to have to send out a ... service squad to explain why you are wrong, with... enlightenment sticks |
| [23:02:24] | Twiggy2cents: | lol |
| [23:02:47] | iamlindoro: | everyone assume the party escort submission position |
| [23:03:14] | Twiggy2cents: | yay for defying GlaDos |
| [23:03:40] | awalls: | I like GlaDos better then Jong Il |
| [23:03:55] | wagnerrp: | you can understand GlaDos's intentions |
| [23:04:04] | Twiggy2cents: | Because she acts friendly? |
| [23:04:17] | Twiggy2cents: | Her intentions are cake and death |
| [23:04:24] | wagnerrp: | testing at all costs |
| [23:04:27] | awalls: | No, no daily report of GlaDos' prowess and virility |
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| [23:04:46] | Twiggy2cents: | Speaking of which, I cant wait for portal 3. |
| [23:04:52] | wagnerrp: | glados is... consistent |
| [23:04:57] | awalls: | I can't wait for more cake |
| [23:04:59] | wagnerrp: | jong il is a nutjob |
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| [23:06:12] | Twiggy2cents: | http://www.instructables.com/id/Building-a-Portal-Turret/ |
| [23:06:18] | Twiggy2cents: | I want this with out actually having to make it |
| [23:07:04] | Twiggy2cents: | He used an aruduino board and it has a real red eye, laser, motion detector, and has all the phrases programmed into it. |
| [23:08:31] | wagnerrp: | no airsoft gun? |
| [23:09:07] | wagnerrp: | no servos? |
| [23:09:14] | wagnerrp: | the guns dont retract? |
| [23:09:24] | ** wagnerrp is disappointed ** | |
| [23:10:00] | awalls: | //me is relieved he doesn't live near wagnerrp |
| [23:10:10] | ** awalls can't type ** | |
| [23:10:43] | Beirdo: | ... you might be a redneck... |
| [23:10:52] | wagnerrp: | if you can't type? |
| [23:11:15] | Beirdo: | if you have a rotating turret gun at yer house :) |
| [23:11:21] | wagnerrp: | nah... |
| [23:11:39] | Beirdo: | Texans don't count as rednecks? |
| [23:11:46] | wagnerrp: | Defcon had a competition for just such for several years |
| [23:11:48] | ** Beirdo ducks and runs ** | |
| [23:13:06] | wagnerrp: | if you tried hard enough, you could probably find source code from one online |
| [23:13:28] | awalls: | http://singularityhub.com/2010/12/16/south-ko . . . g-3-km-away/ |
| [23:13:50] | wagnerrp: | well im talking something you build in your garage for a couple hundred dollars |
| [23:14:07] | wagnerrp: | not something built by a defense contractor for a couple hundred thousand dollars |
| [23:14:16] | Beirdo: | build it on the peak of your roof |
| [23:14:37] | Beirdo: | put one at the front of the peak, one at the back. |
| [23:15:23] | Beirdo: | don't forget to put it on "door-to-door salesman" mode :) |
| [23:15:40] | Beirdo: | (or Mormon or JW or... depending on your bent) |
| [23:15:45] | awalls: | Poor girl scouts, never saw it coming... |
| [23:15:50] | Twiggy2cents: | Only if it has the turrets sympathetic voice phrases |
| [23:16:02] | wagnerrp: | awalls: on the plus side, they dropped the cookies and ran |
| [23:16:10] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [23:16:18] | awalls: | Hmmm tag-along... |
| [23:16:20] | Beirdo: | and would be great for hallowween |
| [23:16:35] | Beirdo: | except I hope it can focus on flying eggs |
| [23:22:27] | wagnerrp: | can someone explain what this means? |
| [23:22:31] | wagnerrp: | "Silent HYBRID Passive Cooling with liquid cooling fan & heat sink" |
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| [23:23:21] | Twiggy2cents: | liquid cooled but the liquid is just a buffer for the heat and does not go anywhere? |
| [23:23:45] | wagnerrp: | but its the fan thats liquid cooled |
| [23:23:53] | wagnerrp: | except there is no fan because its passive |
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| [23:41:01] | wagnerrp: | bah! |
| [23:41:12] | wagnerrp: | i redid all my jails with a fairly complex ZFS tree for each |
| [23:41:19] | wagnerrp: | and forgot to turn compression on for the logs |
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