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Sunday, October 16th, 2011, 00:04 UTC
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[00:25:21] [R]: @%#$^%#$%#@$$
[00:25:26] [R]: i installed the wrong version
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[01:39:00] Oleg_: I am curious, the "rabbit ears" of an antenna are only for VHF channels; they don't have the ability to find UHF channels?
[01:40:18] Oleg_: gotta find the answer on google :)
[01:46:48] wagnerrp: UHF needs a smaller antenna
[01:47:05] wagnerrp: you can use them, they just need to be small than the standard 4' bunny ears
[01:47:16] wagnerrp: basically, only the first couple inches work for UHF
[01:47:57] ** [R] giggles **
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[01:53:56] CyberKnet: sure is dead in #ubuntu-mythtv tonight.
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[01:54:41] CyberKnet: one wonders why the man page for lircd shows a -L / --logfile option if the binary no longer supports it
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[02:16:55] ** wagnerrp feels strange having just called $2/GB 'cheap' **
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[03:19:25] [R]: grrr, i can't get mythweb working
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[03:54:43] [R]: this new phpmyadmin theme is rocking my world
[03:55:07] wagnerrp: this old mysql command line client is rocking my world
[03:56:01] [R]: lol
[03:56:12] [R]: alathough it failed miserably with importing my old db
[03:59:32] [R]: whats the deal with the new way myth outputs logs
[03:59:42] wagnerrp: ?
[04:00:10] [R]: 2011-10–15 20:59:08.473726 C mythtv-setup version: master [v0.25pre-3519-ge763b85] www.mythtv.org
[04:00:13] [R]: that C column is new
[04:00:34] [R]: is there some waay to make it color it?
[04:00:37] [R]: make it all pretty
[04:06:00] wagnerrp: not currently, no
[04:08:01] ** [R] gets a frowny face **
[04:08:16] wagnerrp: i dont think coloring was in the plans
[04:08:27] wagnerrp: since mythtv isnt really intended to be run from a terminal
[04:08:33] [R]: coloring output makes me a happy panda... i write filters at work to make my compiler output pretty
[04:09:06] wagnerrp: coloring makes logging a /LOT/ harder
[04:09:13] wagnerrp: so much more data to output
[04:09:20] [R]: that's what she said?
[04:09:40] wagnerrp: plus you have to contend with terminal capabilities
[04:10:15] [R]: if i could remmeber the name of the filter program i use at work
[04:10:18] [R]: i would just write a filter
[04:10:19] ** [R] ponders **
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[04:27:03] ** wagnerrp is an idiot who forgot to make a snapshot before mucking with his mail server **
[04:34:06] [R]: lol
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[05:57:49] wagnerrp: looks like one of the packages trashed my config files when i re-installed
[05:58:01] wagnerrp: this is going to be fun...
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[07:33:00] shoesx359b: db connection question if you dont mind
[07:33:31] shoesx359b: have read and tried many things in faq and mailing list archive
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[10:46:28] nordle: mornin' I upgraded from ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10.....why did I do that...anyway, does anyone know if there is a setting to turn OFF the mythfrontend auto-restart if it crashes. Because its just looping forever, open, crash, open, crash..
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[12:37:03] sphery: nordle... is gone
[12:37:27] sphery: hope he figured out to use the approach to shut down the service (service mythtv something?)
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[13:40:39] dekarl: sphery: is mythfrontend(.real) configured as a service? I thought it's the mythbuntu wrapper script that does the restarts
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[13:48:50] mattwj2002: hi guys
[13:49:10] mattwj2002: I upgraded my system to Ubuntu 11.10 last night and now mythtv won't start
[13:49:41] mattwj2002: I think the problem is mysql isn't booting on start and thus neither is mythtv-backend
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[13:53:26] dekarl: hmm, I upgraded, too and it's still working (mythbuntu)
[13:54:16] mattwj2002: well mine was actually ubuntu with mythbuntu-desktop added
[13:54:37] mattwj2002: dekarl: I just tried something lets see if works!
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[13:56:49] dekarl: I have changed /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf to wait for eth0 to come up (default is waiting for loopback) makes binding the real ip easier if it's already configured :)
[14:00:21] mattwj2002: I am hoping I got it this time
[14:04:30] mattwj2002: dekarl: I read somewhere that some distros are moving away from ubuntu
[14:04:34] mattwj2002: I can see why
[14:05:34] mattwj2002: it feels like every release is more buggy than the last
[14:07:15] Scopeuk is now known as Scopeuk-AFK
[14:08:52] mattwj2002: anyone have any good ideas?
[14:09:00] mattwj2002: otherwise I am just going to reinstall
[14:10:54] mattwj2002: actually screw it I am going to just reinstall either way
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[14:16:55] dekarl: mattwj2002: can you see whats wrong in the backend log?
[14:19:59] mattwj2002: I have a number of issues with the system
[14:20:11] mattwj2002: mythtv-backend isn't even starting on boot
[14:20:25] mattwj2002: it doesn't auto login anymore
[14:20:40] mattwj2002: web interface doesn't show up just a blank screen
[14:23:15] mattwj2002: it doesn't look like mysql is start either hmm I know that is a depency
[14:23:19] mattwj2002: *dependency
[14:25:32] dekarl: oh, so it's something differnt. (I'm on my way out for a week) if you are reinstalling anyway, did you consider using mythbuntu?
[14:26:58] mattwj2002: actually dekarl I might have found the problem
[14:27:07] mattwj2002: yeah that is what I was planning on doing
[14:27:21] mattwj2002: I noticed my network interfaces don't come up until I login
[14:30:05] mattwj2002: yeah screw this
[14:30:11] mattwj2002: I am reinstalling
[14:30:19] mattwj2002: good job Ubuntu
[14:33:23] Twiggy2cents: why not fix the issues?
[14:35:46] mattwj2002: you have any ideas Twiggy2cents
[14:35:46] mattwj2002: ?
[14:36:03] mattwj2002: I have all ready tried with no success and I am fed up
[14:36:28] mattwj2002: and I don't know how deep the issues go
[14:36:53] Twiggy2cents: First of all you need to look at logs, and start things with verbosity.
[14:37:22] mattwj2002: okay which log mythtv-backend?
[14:37:39] Twiggy2cents: Also if you say it is because of your network connections not being established before mythtv/mysql starts then look into this <dekarl> I have changed /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf to wait for eth0 to come up (default is waiting for loopback) makes binding the real ip easier if it's already configured :)
[14:38:22] Twiggy2cents: mattwj2002, yes. post the file to pastebin. If that doesnt work then start mythtv-backend with -v. I dont know what sub group you want though
[14:39:08] mattwj2002: oh I found the first problem myself
[14:39:20] mattwj2002: Can't connect to MySQL server on
[14:40:11] Twiggy2cents: Is mysql started? Did you setup the mysql username and password and IP in mythtv-setup?
[14:40:33] mattwj2002: yeah it is
[14:40:42] mattwj2002: yeah those are set
[14:40:50] mattwj2002: the problem is I think
[14:41:03] mattwj2002: it doesn't use the loopback let me switch that back
[14:42:04] mattwj2002: that worked!
[14:42:04] mattwj2002: :D
[14:42:29] mattwj2002: I can at least get into the backend
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[14:47:12] Twiggy2cents: mattwj2002, is this going to be a combined BE/FE?
[14:47:18] mattwj2002: yeah it is
[14:47:40] mattwj2002: oh wow
[14:47:45] mattwj2002: mythweb is even back!
[14:47:49] Twiggy2cents: okay, if you ever want to expand you cant use the loopback
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[14:48:48] mattwj2002: Twiggy2cents:
[14:48:54] mattwj2002: I actually do want to expand it
[14:49:45] mattwj2002: let me try this
[14:51:15] mattwj2002: Twiggy2cents: do you have any ideas how to get the auto login to work again?
[14:51:29] Twiggy2cents: Autologin to ubuntu?
[14:51:38] mattwj2002: correct
[14:51:44] Twiggy2cents: with gnome?
[14:51:54] mattwj2002: no
[14:52:02] Twiggy2cents: what desktop?
[14:52:33] mattwj2002: the mythbuntu desktop is the fluxbox?
[14:52:43] Twiggy2cents: i think it is xfce
[14:52:49] mattwj2002: okay
[14:52:52] Twiggy2cents: Is the file manager thunar?
[14:53:14] mattwj2002: yes
[14:53:18] Twiggy2cents: okay
[14:53:59] mattwj2002: it was really easy in 11.04
[14:56:05] Twiggy2cents: do you have mythbuntu-control-centre?
[14:57:11] mattwj2002: it is grayed out
[14:57:19] mattwj2002: that option
[14:57:58] Twiggy2cents: ohh
[14:58:00] Twiggy2cents: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_Auto_Login
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[14:58:36] Twiggy2cents: follow one of the options. It seems like it is no longer as easy as a radio box, but you should only need to set it up once
[14:59:38] mattwj2002: I found this too
[14:59:43] mattwj2002: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/09/enable-au . . . ith-lightdm/
[14:59:44] mattwj2002: ;)
[15:00:57] Twiggy2cents: That seems simple, did it work?
[15:02:15] mattwj2002: not sure
[15:02:21] mattwj2002: I am going to restart the pig
[15:02:24] mattwj2002: see what happens
[15:05:20] mattwj2002: that worked!
[15:05:28] mattwj2002: Twiggy2cents: one last minor complaint
[15:06:06] mattwj2002: I have this on screen keyboard that keeps poping up any ideas how to get rid of it?
[15:10:09] mattwj2002: I just minized it at start
[15:10:11] mattwj2002: that works
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[15:12:09] mattwj2002: oh crap
[15:12:15] mattwj2002: my graphics are all screwed up!
[15:12:36] mattwj2002: like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EiiPcBKfUo
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[15:18:56] iamlindoro: You should really change the title of that video
[15:19:02] iamlindoro: since it's not mythtv's fail
[15:19:51] iamlindoro: But rather in all likelihood "video driver fail"
[15:20:00] mattwj2002: iamlindoro: that is not my video
[15:20:10] mattwj2002: but that is what it is doing
[15:20:24] mattwj2002: I just tried a new graphics driver
[15:20:33] mattwj2002: maybe I'll try an older
[15:22:47] mattwj2002: this ubuntu upgrade really screwed up my system!
[15:23:36] mattwj2002: I mean "upgrade"
[15:23:41] iamlindoro: why did you upgrade?
[15:24:15] mattwj2002: because I had another system running 11.10
[15:24:26] iamlindoro: so?
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[15:24:45] mattwj2002: and I wanted them running the same version of mythtv so I could do mythtv-frontend
[15:24:55] iamlindoro: Your myth system was already .24, they would have been just fine together
[15:25:06] iamlindoro: 11.04 and 11.10 run the exact same release of mythtv
[15:25:33] mattwj2002: great
[15:25:33] iamlindoro: They don't need to be identical revisions, just identical releases
[15:25:36] mattwj2002: now I find out
[15:25:42] iamlindoro: You could have asked :P
[15:25:47] mattwj2002: true
[15:26:05] mattwj2002: iamlindoro: any ideas of this graphics issue?
[15:26:14] iamlindoro: nope, we avoid ATI around here
[15:26:29] mattwj2002: no it is affecting my NVIDIA graphics as well!
[15:26:32] mattwj2002: O_O
[15:26:40] iamlindoro: Still no idea
[15:27:12] iamlindoro: Aside from the obvious "upgrading to a new distro days from when it comes out is a pretty bad idea from myth"
[15:28:12] mattwj2002: fixed it
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[15:28:46] iamlindoro: by...?
[15:29:05] mattwj2002: well for some reason it switched from slim to cpu++
[15:29:11] mattwj2002: I switched it back to slim
[15:29:12] mattwj2002: :)
[15:29:22] iamlindoro: So you worked around it
[15:29:26] mattwj2002: yeah
[15:30:47] mattwj2002: I don't know if my chipset can take advantage of XvMC anyways
[15:31:29] mattwj2002: oh wait that is CPU+
[15:31:44] mattwj2002: I don't know it works now!
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[16:55:46] tomgra: Hello everyone. I have been trying to setup a hauppauge 2250 dual tuner on mythtv. I am new and I am not having any luck installing it. I have followed several sites instruction such as http://linuxforkeysers.blogspot.com/2010/08/g . . . 2250-to.html and mythtv does not see the card. But when I run lspci -vv I see the card. Can someone please point me in the right direction.
[16:56:48] wagnerrp: are you trying to use it for analog or digital?
[16:57:08] tomgra: Digital. I understand analog does not work
[16:57:19] wagnerrp: on the 2250? sure it does
[16:57:28] wagnerrp: but its only worth to you would be capture off your cable boxes
[16:57:28] tomgra: Must have been an old post I read
[16:57:50] wagnerrp: analog drivers for that card have been available for like 16 months
[16:58:00] wagnerrp: anyway, do you have any devices in /dev/dvb?
[16:58:07] tomgra: That is what I am doing . I have the cable box connected to the card.
[16:58:20] wagnerrp: but you are doing digital
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[16:58:47] wagnerrp: if youre doing digital cable, you cant have the card connected through a cable box
[16:58:52] stoth: tomgra: digital works great, analog I don't really use on myth.
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[17:00:06] tomgra: I do not have anything listed in /dev/dvb. Sorry I have the cable box in to my splitter and then I am using the splitter to my card.
[17:00:27] tomgra: Sorry I am new to all of this
[17:00:32] wagnerrp: so the cable from the wall is plugged directly into your cable box
[17:00:38] tomgra: correct
[17:00:41] wagnerrp: and then the output of the cable box through a splitter to your tuner card
[17:00:45] wagnerrp: yeah... doesnt work that way
[17:00:53] stoth: tomgra: if you don't have anything in /dev/dvb/adapter, what makes you think the driver is loaded correctly?
[17:01:04] wagnerrp: the coaxial output on your cable box is analog
[17:01:24] wagnerrp: you will only be able to tune the single channel being output by the cable box
[17:01:35] wagnerrp: meaning a dual tuner -2250 will go half to waste
[17:01:40] tomgra: when I go to lspci -vv I see hauppage listed. Am I worng?
[17:01:46] wagnerrp: if you want to capture from your cable box, use the svideo inputs
[17:01:56] wagnerrp: lspci does nothing more than list the devices connected to your machine
[17:02:06] wagnerrp: it has absolutely nothing to do with the driver infrastructure
[17:02:24] tomgra: that is where I am going wrong.
[17:02:34] wagnerrp: if you intend to use the -2250 for digital cable, you must connect it directly to the wall
[17:03:00] stoth: tomgra: http://pastebin.com/DhBt3E7C
[17:03:02] wagnerrp: also note that on comcast, typically the only things you will find unencrypted such that it can be captured digitally by that tuner will be the local broadcast channels
[17:03:27] stoth: tomgra: ^^^ this is what dmesg should look like if your cards are detected and loaded correctly by the driver (2 x 2250's in my case)
[17:05:09] tomgra: when I look at /lib/firmware I see where i put everything according to http://www.steventoth.net/linux/hvr22xx/extract.sh
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[17:09:17] stoth: tomgra: stop. stop immediately. Does dmesg show your driver is loaded correctly? (I don't think it is).
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[18:43:23] [R]: woohoo, suspend to ram works on this 3.0 kernel
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[19:19:59] wagnerrp: does bounced mail typically retry a couple times?
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[19:24:30] Twiggy2cents: How many active tickets do you get down to before you relase the next revision? 0?
[19:24:40] wagnerrp: 42
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[19:25:33] Twiggy2cents: Hmm that seems like that should of been the answer to my next question
[19:25:59] wagnerrp: there is no number, besides "when were good and ready"
[19:26:10] Twiggy2cents: gotcha
[19:26:19] wagnerrp: the number of tickets for that specific milestone is a better, but not great indicator
[19:26:20] Twiggy2cents: wagnerrp, do you use chrome?
[19:26:24] wagnerrp: nope
[19:26:51] Twiggy2cents: Oh, the omnibox will do math. if you type a simple math problem in it will answer it in the bar
[19:27:10] wagnerrp: usually anything thats a blocker or critical must be resolved before a release
[19:27:19] Twiggy2cents: If you you type the answer to the universe life and everything it say "=42" in the omnibox
[19:31:57] [R]: wagnerrp: i think it depends on why it bounced?
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[21:16:37] Elv13: How can I set my card audio channal in Ubuntu, mythtv-setup only show ALSA:default, but pulse audio see my card
[21:16:58] Elv13: And how can I increase the timeout of TV card, mine take 1 second too much sometime to start
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[22:21:12] brockp: On my new myth install in mythmusic if I hit visualizations none show, Shwere would I check to see if they are installed?
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[22:35:53] brockp: Found the problem I didn't have any selected in the settings, (thanks wiki) but now when I try to play them they just freeze, CPU use is low, just a single frame frozen on the screen
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[22:38:05] brockp: Ha frontend restart fixed the problem
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[23:08:10] nichos: hi guys, I'm losing my mind. Can someone look over this: http://pastebin.com/aKy0AHhy it's the top or my lircrc and the output of irw
[23:08:37] nichos: my remote is working fine, but i want to assign a few unused buttons. when I press those buttons (Blue) in the assign keys menu in myth, it keeps waiting for input.
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[23:15:14] nichos: Using .24 (if that matters)
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[23:21:24] nichos: is there another lircrc file? Perhaps I'm editing the wrong one?
[23:22:19] [R]: the frontend says what file its loading when it starts
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[23:23:15] wakko222: i have a asus pvr-416 i believe. Does anyone know the proper modprobe settings for this card?
[23:23:27] nichos: ok, so that's not my problem, I'm editing the right one
[23:23:43] [R]: wakko222: what makes you think you need modprobe settings?
[23:24:03] wakko222: I am getting the analog channels, but no sound.
[23:24:32] [R]: what driver does it use?
[23:24:41] wakko222: cx88, i think
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[23:25:43] [R]: you think?
[23:26:16] wakko222: the chipsets are cx28330 and cx23416
[23:26:26] wakko222: oops cx23880
[23:27:41] [R]: and did you read what hte wiki saysa bout it?
[23:28:47] nichos: Can anyone tell me why my aspect button doesn't work. Here's the irw and the relevant lircrc http://pastebin.com/7v5aS3RY
[23:29:29] wakko222: all the info I can find says that there are tons of these cards and each manufacturer did something a little different with the card= setting. I was hoping someone had some experience with this one.
[23:30:41] [R]: HOT DAMN
[23:30:50] [R]: you can unload nouveau and load nvidia prop driver
[23:38:39] wagnerrp: nichos: because it is set to be triggered by the 'mceusb_hauppauge' remote
[23:38:48] wagnerrp: but your remote is registered as 'mceusb'
[23:39:02] wagnerrp: so the events are being filtered out
[23:41:17] brockp: In mythmusic when it is playing with visualizations enabled, is it supposed to show the track info when the track changes?
[23:41:28] wagnerrp: wakko222: you have this configured as an 'ivtv mpeg2 encoder' card?
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[23:44:11] brockp: It does! It just flashes very very quickly and disappears, I also have 'show album art between tracks' enabled in settings and it flashes very very quickly and resumes the vis right away
[23:45:28] brockp: Ah ha, the problem with flashing the track info really quick doesn't happen with the 'album art' visulization plugin. What could cause this? I would like to have the track information up there longer than a fraction of a second
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