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| [00:18:43] | Beirdo: | Hmmm |
| [00:19:08] | Beirdo: | now the virtualbox vm says that FreeBSD is refusing the ISCSI connection |
| [00:19:12] | Beirdo: | and I don't see it doing so |
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| [00:56:43] | context: | maybe not the best place to ask but i have fuppes running on my drobo, what are some good upnp client to watch movies off of it |
| [01:06:28] | wagnerrp: | are you talking about hardware or software? |
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| [01:08:10] | context: | wahrhaft: software |
| [01:08:18] | context: | xbmc looks like it doesnt support fuppes |
| [01:08:28] | context: | or should i just share it over smb/nfs and watch it directly |
| [01:08:51] | wagnerrp: | install a slave backend on the drobo, access the content using mythfrontend |
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| [01:14:22] | context: | yeah i need to learn more about fucking up my drobo |
| [01:14:37] | wagnerrp: | please watch the language in this channel |
| [01:14:55] | context: | :x |
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| [01:19:55] | context: | so no software client/control points that dont suck for windows ? |
| [01:20:11] | wagnerrp: | windows media player is a upnp client |
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| [02:19:55] | tlhiv_laptop: | hi folks ... for some reason the backend server stoped running and now (with not changes) won't start |
| [02:20:13] | wagnerrp: | what are you doing to try to start it? |
| [02:20:44] | tlhiv_laptop: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart |
| [02:21:02] | wagnerrp: | so you should have some logs where ever the init script tells them to go, correct? |
| [02:21:04] | tlhiv_laptop: | it just died for no reason after running for over a month with no changes |
| [02:21:26] | tlhiv_laptop: | also, if i just try to run "mythbackend" manually i see console output |
| [02:21:57] | tlhiv_laptop: | http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/LIHWwqFn |
| [02:21:58] | wagnerrp: | either the logs, or the console output, we need to see it |
| [02:22:20] | wagnerrp: | ouch, illegal instruction |
| [02:22:33] | wagnerrp: | thats generally a hardware fault |
| [02:22:48] | tlhiv_laptop: | yikes |
| [02:23:23] | wagnerrp: | it means you sent an illegal op code to your processor |
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| [02:23:57] | wagnerrp: | if existing code suddenly starts throwing those |
| [02:24:08] | wagnerrp: | its possible the binary became corrupted |
| [02:24:25] | wagnerrp: | or, your hardware is starting to fail |
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| [02:24:30] | wagnerrp: | try reinstalling your packages |
| [02:24:35] | wagnerrp: | try running memtest |
| [02:27:10] | tlhiv_laptop: | a reboot seems to have fixed the problem (for the moment) |
| [02:27:21] | tlhiv_laptop: | although that was very weird |
| [02:27:39] | wagnerrp: | yeah, reboots should not fix software problems |
| [02:27:47] | tlhiv_laptop: | agreed |
| [02:28:20] | wagnerrp: | what distro is this? |
| [02:28:23] | tlhiv_laptop: | gentoo |
| [02:29:03] | wagnerrp: | did you tell it to compile to a specific processor? or just keep it generic x86_64? |
| [02:29:43] | tlhiv_laptop: | opteron |
| [02:31:59] | wagnerrp: | are you actually running one of the original K8 chips? |
| [02:32:06] | wagnerrp: | socket 939 or 940? |
| [02:32:17] | tlhiv_laptop: | original k8 |
| [02:32:25] | tlhiv_laptop: | two ;) |
| [02:36:10] | tlhiv_laptop: | oh well .. i guess i'll just see how often it happens |
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| [02:39:17] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
| [02:39:20] | mattwj2002: | and gals |
| [02:40:31] | mattwj2002: | I would like to get my cablecard going tomorrow |
| [02:40:37] | mattwj2002: | what do I need to know? |
| [02:41:19] | mattwj2002: | I have a WinTV-DCR-2650 ... I still need to get a cable card self kit from Comcast tomorrow |
| [02:42:33] | [R]: | i belive it works just like the hdhomerun |
| [02:43:11] | iamlindoro: | You need to not rely on a channel mostly full of people who know nothing about setting up a cable card for your information |
| [02:43:27] | iamlindoro: | You need to go to the silicondust forums, and read, read, read from now until the moment you get your card |
| [02:43:36] | iamlindoro: | and only then will you be prepared to handle any problems that come up |
| [02:43:54] | mattwj2002: | O_o |
| [02:43:59] | iamlindoro: | And there are potentially many problems |
| [02:44:04] | mattwj2002: | great |
| [02:44:41] | mattwj2002: | iamlindoro: is it better to do this activation under windows? |
| [02:44:47] | iamlindoro: | Getting a cable company to properly activate a cablecard is often not trivial, and the only way to set them straight and not let them convince you that your device isn't supported, or taht there's something wrong with it, or that they need to roll a clueless tech to poke at your perfectly functioning wires is... |
| [02:44:52] | iamlindoro: | properly educating yourself |
| [02:44:53] | mattwj2002: | or should I use linux and mythtv |
| [02:44:54] | iamlindoro: | No |
| [02:44:59] | iamlindoro: | Activation isn't done under *any* os |
| [02:45:02] | wagnerrp: | well... theres only one problem |
| [02:45:13] | wagnerrp: | cable company employees not doing things correctly |
| [02:45:19] | wagnerrp: | the question is how that is going to manifest |
| [02:45:28] | mattwj2002: | great |
| [02:45:31] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [02:45:49] | iamlindoro: | There are literally months worth of discussion on all the possible problems on the SD forums |
| [02:46:17] | iamlindoro: | I could spend hours reinterpreting them for you, or you could just go do a little research on your own |
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| [02:47:20] | mattwj2002: | iamlindoro: can you at least tell me this? |
| [02:47:26] | iamlindoro: | "this" |
| [02:47:29] | iamlindoro: | there you go, that's your one |
| [02:47:30] | mattwj2002: | yeah |
| [02:47:36] | mattwj2002: | lol |
| [02:47:53] | ** iamlindoro goes to walk the dogs ** | |
| [02:48:00] | mattwj2002: | should I go with a ppa verion of mythtv or the stable ubuntu packages |
| [02:48:04] | mattwj2002: | ? |
| [02:48:39] | [R]: | the ubuntu packages are old and crap |
| [02:48:41] | wagnerrp: | you should always go with the ppa version, for all reasons |
| [02:49:01] | wagnerrp: | the ubuntu packages are no so much "stable" as "release" |
| [02:49:13] | mattwj2002: | 24.x or 25? |
| [02:49:20] | mattwj2002: | I am assuming 24.x |
| [02:49:22] | wagnerrp: | 0.24 |
| [02:49:25] | mattwj2002: | ok |
| [02:49:48] | skd5aner: | mattwj2002: http://www.mythbuntu.org/download-type |
| [02:50:13] | wagnerrp: | actually, thats wrong, the ubuntu packages arent the release version |
| [02:50:32] | wagnerrp: | however if you use the ubuntu packages, youre going to get something dated to around march |
| [02:50:45] | mattwj2002: | ok |
| [02:50:48] | wagnerrp: | missing some six months of updates and fixes |
| [02:50:52] | mattwj2002: | O_O |
| [02:51:27] | wagnerrp: | (this is september, simple subtraction, nothing to be surprised about) |
| [02:53:47] | mattwj2002: | true |
| [02:54:08] | mattwj2002: | 11.10 has to be close to being out then? |
| [02:54:30] | wagnerrp: | end of october |
| [02:54:35] | mattwj2002: | nice |
| [03:03:21] | iamlindoro: | Ugh, son of a |
| [03:03:44] | iamlindoro: | I hate when I spend hours investigating my own code as the cause of an issue and find it's not my code at all, but some boneheaded Qt Setup UI assumption |
| [03:03:55] | wagnerrp: | hehe |
| [03:04:12] | mattwj2002: | that is the worse part of programming |
| [03:04:14] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [03:04:20] | iamlindoro: | The whole evening down the tubes |
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| [03:04:42] | wagnerrp: | well... its not all lost |
| [03:04:54] | wagnerrp: | you could always watch that new episode of fringe |
| [03:05:05] | iamlindoro: | not for another hour, but yeah |
| [03:05:10] | mattwj2002: | is Fridge any good? |
| [03:05:20] | mattwj2002: | *Fringe |
| [03:05:21] | iamlindoro: | Depends on what's in it |
| [03:05:26] | wagnerrp: | well... youll never guess what happens in tonights episode |
| [03:05:26] | mattwj2002: | lol |
| [03:05:37] | wagnerrp: | theyre all standing around the machine when... |
| [03:06:09] | mattwj2002: | yeah yeah |
| [03:06:10] | mattwj2002: | :P |
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| [03:08:53] | mattwj2002: | dang net split |
| [03:09:06] | wagnerrp: | but why did you leave? |
| [03:09:27] | mattwj2002: | because I hate netsplits |
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| [03:09:38] | wagnerrp: | but you quit after it was over |
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| [03:10:33] | mattwj2002: | I have ended up in weird spots because of netsplits |
| [03:10:39] | mattwj2002: | I was trying to avoid it |
| [03:10:56] | wagnerrp: | but you never know if youre on the good side or bad until its all over |
| [03:11:08] | mattwj2002: | it is over now right? |
| [03:11:16] | wagnerrp: | only, you waited until it was over, and then quit the good side |
| [03:11:23] | mattwj2002: | ok |
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| [03:21:36] | wagnerrp: | good old walter and is incessant fixation on the anus |
| [03:21:44] | wagnerrp: | s/is/his/ |
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| [03:23:05] | mattwj2002: | O_O |
| [03:36:50] | ** Beirdo hauls off and slaps his devel box ** | |
| [03:37:12] | wagnerrp: | devil box? |
| [03:37:21] | Beirdo: | it won't connect to iscsi anymore |
| [03:37:35] | Beirdo: | the stupid thing wants to connect to localhost?! |
| [03:37:50] | wagnerrp: | DEVIL! Devil! devil! devil. devil... |
| [03:40:26] | skd5aner: | "I'm going to have to, er... look at her anus" |
| [03:41:05] | wagnerrp: | you hamfist |
| [03:42:01] | mattwj2002: | :P |
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| [03:51:44] | prologic: | hey guys, I've somewhat successfully programmed up an iMON PAD Remote |
| [03:51:55] | prologic: | but having problems with the D-Pad Up/Down/Left/Right |
| [03:52:02] | prologic: | I can't get those to work consistently at all really |
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| [03:56:20] | ** wagnerrp wonders why a secret government installation would have plate glass warehouse windows on the roof ** | |
| [03:56:40] | [R]: | to disguse the fact that its a secret place |
| [03:56:46] | mattwj2002: | area 51? |
| [03:56:47] | mattwj2002: | :P |
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| [03:57:10] | [R]: | area 51 is a myth |
| [03:57:43] | mattwj2002: | do they have a tv? |
| [03:57:45] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [03:58:29] | mattwj2002: | that joke was really lame sorry |
| [03:58:46] | wagnerrp: | [R]: actually, the government acknowledged that facility back in 2003 |
| [03:59:27] | mattwj2002: | what did they say wagnerrp? |
| [03:59:38] | wagnerrp: | that there is a facility there |
| [03:59:45] | mattwj2002: | and? |
| [04:00:13] | wagnerrp: | ahd? |
| [04:00:17] | [R]: | lol |
| [04:00:22] | mattwj2002: | did they say anything else? |
| [04:00:53] | wagnerrp: | yes, aliens are real, theyve given us technology such as velcro and the CD |
| [04:01:03] | mattwj2002: | lol |
| [04:01:11] | mattwj2002: | star trek nice |
| [04:01:12] | mattwj2002: | haha |
| [04:01:21] | wagnerrp: | star trek? |
| [04:01:47] | mattwj2002: | well Star Trek Enterprise one episode said that velcro was given to use by aliens |
| [04:01:51] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [04:01:57] | Bhaal: | Anyone seen the satellite fly over yet? |
| [04:02:01] | prologic: | no comments on the iMon issues I'm having |
| [04:02:03] | prologic: | kk :) |
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| [04:03:24] | mattwj2002: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_Creek_%28 . . . nterprise%29 |
| [04:03:25] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [04:03:43] | mattwj2002: | "Surreptitiously taking a small item from the downed Vulcan craft, T'Mir travels by train to Pittsburgh where she visits a Big Creek Manufacturing and Sales and sells the incredulous man the rights to a product known today as Velcro (although in reality, this product was already patented by this time). The money she receives for this "invention that will change the world" is more than enough to ensure Jack's future education." |
| [04:06:51] | skd5aner: | so, UARS is about 40 mins from entry |
| [04:07:20] | Beirdo: | I'm about 40min from losing it |
| [04:07:22] | wagnerrp: | that the big NASA bird about to come back down? |
| [04:07:25] | skd5aner: | Looks like it might bombard Canada... they're all screwed |
| [04:07:31] | skd5aner: | yea |
| [04:07:45] | skd5aner: | Over Hawaii now |
| [04:07:49] | ** mattwj2002 is in MN which is 6 hours from Canada O_o ** | |
| [04:08:19] | skd5aner: | Beirdo, it'll be going right over WA |
| [04:08:27] | Beirdo: | fine :) |
| [04:09:02] | skd5aner: | who knows, might be a nice fireball across the sky by then |
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| [04:10:55] | iamlindoro: | kormoc_afk: Any chance you know if Schedules Direct does any throttling of actions like lineup downloading, etc? I'm doing a lot of API access testing but have frequently found valid login info failing to return data |
| [04:13:05] | skd5aner: | http://spaceflightnow.com/uars/status.html & http://www.ustream.tv/channel/theweatherspace-news are good tracking sites |
| [04:13:33] | skd5aner: | actually, Beirdo... you should take a look outside in about 2–10 mins... it's halfway between seattle and hawaii |
| [04:14:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure I'll have a wonderful view of the clouds |
| [04:14:04] | skd5aner: | curious if you can see it with the naked eye... some folks on twitter said they saw it in NZ |
| [04:14:12] | wagnerrp: | bah, headed the wrong direction |
| [04:14:28] | wagnerrp: | it should be coming south over WA |
| [04:15:33] | skd5aner: | Yea, just south of puget sound it looks like |
| [04:16:16] | wagnerrp: | nothing like a live event to bring out the worthless on the internet |
| [04:16:54] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: should be able to see it over the horizon now, for about a min or 2 |
| [04:18:21] | skd5aner: | directly overhead now |
| [04:18:47] | prologic: | Is there a nice web-based control frontend ? |
| [04:19:01] | prologic: | I found this post — http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=604598 |
| [04:19:04] | prologic: | is there anything better ? |
| [04:19:05] | wagnerrp: | mythweb |
| [04:19:07] | skd5aner: | mythweb |
| [04:19:09] | skd5aner: | er |
| [04:19:47] | prologic: | just the standard mythweb that comes shipped ? |
| [04:19:54] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [04:20:55] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: they expect it to make one more orbit? |
| [04:33:10] | Beirdo: | urgh! |
| [04:33:31] | Beirdo: | OK, I'm going to admit defeat for the night |
| [04:33:48] | Beirdo: | tomorrow, maybe I'll try to fix the *#(&$#@(*ing windows slave. |
| [04:34:05] | Beirdo: | iscsi and virtualbox are no longer friends |
| [04:34:38] | wagnerrp: | what target are you using? |
| [04:34:50] | Beirdo: | istgt |
| [04:35:09] | Beirdo: | but the thing is... virtualbox isn't even sending it out the ethernet, it's trying on localhost |
| [04:35:12] | Beirdo: | and it makes NO sense |
| [04:35:14] | wagnerrp: | ah, just switched over to that |
| [04:35:31] | Beirdo: | it worked earlier today, then the vm wedged, and has been borked ever since |
| [04:36:00] | Beirdo: | gone as far as removing the disk definitions completely and recreating the connection |
| [04:36:03] | Beirdo: | nothing. |
| [04:36:29] | Beirdo: | meanwhile the host OS has no issues seeing it. just the initiator in virtualbox |
| [04:37:34] | prologic: | Is there any way of streaming what's currently on livetv through mythweb ? |
| [04:37:49] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [04:38:16] | prologic: | k |
| [04:43:22] | [R]: | cant you jsut play the recording? |
| [04:50:46] | sphery: | On #10057 , why is it trying to bind to port 6893? It seems to be binding to the proper port OK, so why does he have it set to bind to a different port? |
| [04:51:18] | sphery: | "NetworkControl failed to bind to port 6983" part |
| [04:53:11] | sphery: | hehe, wagnerrp finally fixed his e-mail (I finally see his "why virtualize linux on linux" in "[mythtv-users] VMWare move. Firewire - ? Need input") |
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| [06:10:52] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: what version of lirc are you running? |
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| [06:11:28] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, 0.9.0 |
| [06:11:43] | wagnerrp: | with what receiver? |
| [06:12:16] | kormoc: | mceusb2 |
| [06:12:25] | wagnerrp: | any ideas on what i might be doing wrong? |
| [06:12:38] | wagnerrp: | ive got the mceusb module from the kernel built |
| [06:12:45] | wagnerrp: | its giving a /dev/lirc0 |
| [06:12:57] | wagnerrp: | and that node works with mode2, irrecord, and 'cat' |
| [06:13:08] | wagnerrp: | i just cant get lircd/irw to spit anything out |
| [06:13:15] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [06:13:19] | wagnerrp: | even with a freshly recorded lircd.conf |
| [06:13:39] | kormoc: | lircd shows the driver as available? |
| [06:13:58] | kormoc: | I had to compile lircd with it's mceusb2 driver and then ditch it for the kernel's version before it'd work |
| [06:14:14] | wagnerrp: | oh? i thought you were supposed to use the devinput driver |
| [06:14:56] | wagnerrp: | ive got the lirc_mceusb driver disabled in the ebuild |
| [06:15:06] | wagnerrp: | although to be honest, i dont even see it in the LIRC_DEVICES any longer |
| [06:15:06] | kormoc: | Aye, the kernel driver uses it, but the lircd doesn't talk with anything it didn't compile, so you fake it |
| [06:15:41] | kormoc: | I had to use my own ebuild to get it to work |
| [06:15:56] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [06:16:03] | wagnerrp: | tricky tricky |
| [06:16:13] | kormoc: | Aye. Annoying to figure out |
| [06:16:19] | wagnerrp: | ill give that a try, thanks |
| [06:16:58] | kormoc: | g'luck! |
| [06:21:04] | wagnerrp: | so its really a fault with how the gentoo ebuild is designed |
| [06:21:15] | kormoc: | Aye, I believe so |
| [06:21:31] | wagnerrp: | j-rod has expressed his dislike of only compiling a handful of modules in the past |
| [06:22:21] | kormoc: | and he's the maintainer, so his say is a pretty good guideline |
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| [06:22:30] | mattwj2002: | hi all |
| [06:24:31] | prologic: | hmm |
| [06:24:38] | prologic: | I guess mythtube is abandoned ? |
| [06:24:52] | wagnerrp: | before it saw its first release |
| [06:25:20] | prologic: | geez |
| [06:25:31] | prologic: | no one is interested in resurrecting it ? |
| [06:25:38] | wagnerrp: | no reason to |
| [06:25:53] | prologic: | because of mythbrowser ? |
| [06:26:06] | wagnerrp: | in a manner of speaking |
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| [06:26:25] | prologic: | or does no-one view youtube videos from their mythtv frontend ? |
| [06:26:44] | wagnerrp: | see mythnetvision |
| [06:26:49] | Beirdo: | OK, managed to make it work |
| [06:26:50] | prologic: | hmm kk |
| [06:27:07] | Beirdo: | I put in xinetd to redirect to the correct server for TCP/3206 |
| [06:27:09] | Beirdo: | lame |
| [06:28:16] | mattwj2002: | I love that mythtv has a upnp feature |
| [06:28:17] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [06:29:22] | mattwj2002: | hopefully some of the bugs have improved though |
| [06:29:30] | wagnerrp: | the upnp server? |
| [06:29:37] | mattwj2002: | yeah |
| [06:30:24] | mattwj2002: | I had a bug a while box where recordings were showing up multiple times |
| [06:30:30] | mattwj2002: | *while back |
| [06:31:27] | mattwj2002: | but that was a long time ago |
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| [06:36:14] | prologic: | cool mythtvnetvision is cool |
| [06:45:09] | wagnerrp: | kormoc_afk: seems mceusb is no longer even in the lirc source |
| [06:45:15] | wagnerrp: | configure chokes when i try to enable it |
| [06:49:24] | Beirdo: | bedtime, methinks |
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| [06:55:31] | prologic: | anyone have airvideo-server running on their backend ? |
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| [07:49:59] | waxhead: | hey everyone |
| [07:50:49] | waxhead: | I'm not sure if one of my tuner cards is failing, or has failed, starting to get a lot of recordings with no file, so I'm wondering how best to test the various cards, I have 3 dual tuners in the box |
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| [07:53:11] | larrikin: | dvb ? |
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| [07:53:44] | AdaptiveSi: | anyone using hauppauge HVR-2210? |
| [07:53:56] | larrikin: | use dvb-utils to tune to something then cat the video device of each card into a file ? |
| [07:54:20] | waxhead: | larrikin, seems fair enough... |
| [07:54:43] | waxhead: | would a tuner that's failing be the cause of recordings showing up with no file? |
| [07:56:08] | larrikin: | there are dvb kernel driver bugs that myth has uncovered at various times .. I think there's a lot of stuff you can try before deciding that you have a h/w issue.. |
| [07:56:34] | larrikin: | have you cnaged your kernel recently ? |
| [07:56:39] | larrikin: | *changed |
| [07:58:03] | waxhead: | larrikin, yep |
| [07:58:33] | waxhead: | it's a mythbuntu build, so only just recently updated the kernel |
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| [08:00:38] | larrikin: | I use this to grab the date off of a car and set my clocks >> tzap -c /etc/tzap/channels.conf 'ABC1' | head -n 20 & dvbdate --set |
| [08:00:49] | larrikin: | *off a card |
| [08:01:55] | larrikin: | tzap and dvbdate are in the package 'dvb-utils' from memory .. you'd be able to diagnose things with these utils also.. |
| [08:02:50] | larrikin: | I use pure debian .. |
| [08:04:36] | AdaptiveSi: | anyone had to do the NEW DRIVERS part of the Hauppauge bit? |
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| [08:06:22] | waxhead: | larrikin, where in .au are you? |
| [08:06:36] | larrikin: | sydney |
| [08:07:02] | waxhead: | dvb-apps for me.. |
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| [08:36:19] | prologic: | ERROR: MythTV is using all inputs but there are no recordings. |
| [08:36:27] | prologic: | I get this when trying to run another frontend |
| [08:39:01] | prologic: | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/481501/ |
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| [08:45:11] | [R]: | prologic: so read what it says and take the logical course of action |
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| [09:13:15] | waxhead: | well, it seems like all the tuners are able to stream... |
| [09:13:29] | waxhead: | so it seems odd that I have no recording... |
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| [09:56:32] | mzb: | waxhead: checked permissions for the recordings directory/directories ? |
| [09:56:59] | waxhead: | mzb, yeah, they are fine, there's 2TB of recordings in the same please |
| [09:57:05] | waxhead: | s/please/place/ |
| [09:57:53] | mzb: | so wheat happens if you increase the verbosity of the log and force a recording? |
| [09:58:01] | mzb: | s/what |
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| [11:20:47] | justinh: | heh mythweb just showed me there were no upcoming recordings this weekend. whoever used it last (probably me) had it listing upcoming recordings alphabetically. derrrrrrrrrr |
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| [12:21:12] | NickHu: | Hey all, was just wondering about something... How do I get surround sound from my PS3 into my analog only 5.1 system? |
| [12:21:46] | NickHu: | Could I plug something into my PC's line-in and output it through speakers? |
| [12:23:07] | laga_: | do you have spdif-in on your computer? |
| [12:23:25] | NickHu: | I'm not entirely sure |
| [12:23:39] | NickHu: | Is there anything like lspci to check? |
| [12:24:42] | NickHu: | http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_ . . . ecifications < I think I only have digital audio outs.. |
| [12:24:43] | laga_: | you'd probably need to input the digital signal to the computer, then decode that and send it to the analog 5.1 outputs. but that'll probably introduce latency and whatnot, so perhaps you'd just want to buy an ac3 decoder ;) |
| [12:24:57] | NickHu: | ac3 decoder? |
| [12:25:11] | NickHu: | laga_: Does it help that my PC is very fast? |
| [12:26:28] | laga_: | you'd still need to capture the ps3 output |
| [12:27:10] | laga_: | NickHu: the ps3 either outputs an encoded digital signal or just the 5 channel bitstream. in any case, you need a decoder to divide that up into 5.1 channels |
| [12:27:30] | laga_: | i'd probably buy a 5.1 av receiver, but that's probably not what you want |
| [12:27:45] | laga_: | there are also some dedicated decoder boxes. teufel.de sells one, for example. |
| [12:27:46] | NickHu: | The PS3 audio output settings say that it outputs in DTS, Dolby, and Linear PCM |
| [12:27:51] | laga_: | but neither option is terribly cheap |
| [12:27:58] | NickHu: | laga_: I'm looking for the cheapest possible option |
| [12:29:07] | NickHu: | From what I assumed, some sort of PCI card that has a spdif-in would be cheapest? |
| [12:29:12] | laga_: | you could probably buy a cheap soundcard with spdif capture and then use your computer to decode the signal. but that'll probably be flakey and i'd research that first |
| [12:29:12] | NickHu: | What kind of latency are we talking? |
| [12:29:16] | laga_: | ie ask the alsa people |
| [12:29:21] | laga_: | re latency: no clue |
| [12:29:46] | laga_: | i'm not the best person to ask this kind of thing, as I personally do not use multi-channel |
| [12:29:52] | laga_: | but i researched that some time ago |
| [12:29:53] | NickHu: | Hmm |
| [12:32:48] | laga_: | you can get 5.1 receivers for about 200€ new |
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| [12:35:22] | NickHu: | Jeez o_O I was thinking under £20 |
| [12:36:12] | laga_: | i take it the ps3 does not have dedicated 5.1 plugs |
| [12:36:46] | laga_: | apparently, you can get cheap decoders from china for 40€ |
| [12:37:48] | laga_: | like this thing: http://www.ebay.de/itm/New-5-1-Channel-DTS-AC . . . em3f09d9e294 |
| [12:37:53] | laga_: | but no guarantees it will work etc |
| [12:38:58] | laga_: | dealextreme sells the same thing. |
| [12:39:40] | laga_: | heh, got a bad review on DX |
| [12:40:01] | laga_: | ah, might have been a one-off |
| [12:43:36] | justinh: | can you even do spdif passthru? not sure you can |
| [12:43:54] | justinh: | you're gonna have to buy something that can decode 5.1. sorry (not) :-) |
| [12:45:16] | justinh: | laga_: pretty sure no pc soundcard is gonna let you capture surround through a digital input unless it hasn't been copy protected |
| [12:45:39] | justinh: | I tried capturing audio from a dvd player that way & it wouldn't let me |
| [12:46:23] | justinh: | NickHu: maybe look at buying a 2nd hand AV receiver |
| [12:47:00] | justinh: | and I think even supermarkets sell 'surround' sets which feature digital inputs for ££. they're probably crap though |
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| [12:48:18] | justinh: | heh just found a cheapy at richer sounds... but it doesn't have digital inputs. LOL |
| [12:49:07] | justinh: | that was a Phillips 'all in one thing' with a dvd player & amp in one box... |
| [12:49:16] | justinh: | same story for the slightly more expensive LG one.. |
| [12:49:23] | justinh: | looks like you're knackered |
| [12:53:43] | justinh: | well, could be time to shut down the backend to do the maintenance work |
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| [12:56:26] | stuartm: | NickHu: this is for games, or blu-ray films? |
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| [12:59:52] | Shiggs|MB: | Hello all. Anyone here run MythTV with Funtoo Linux? |
| [13:00:02] | Shiggs|MB: | I'm having some annoying issues with it |
| [13:05:54] | NickHu: | stuartm: Games |
| [13:09:05] | Shiggs|MB: | So to be straight to the point: I think my issue has to do with MySql and MythBackEnd. I assue this because I cannot reboot successfully when I have MySql set to load on the default runlevel. Once I boot into my other Gentoo install to disable it, and then boot back into Funtoo it boots fine. |
| [13:09:29] | Shiggs|MB: | Upon running rc-status and rc-status boot I see that Mythbackend crashes on boot up. |
| [13:10:13] | Shiggs|MB: | Also, when I try and load the frontend it complains that the backend isn't running, but when I rc-config start mythbackend, it is indeed running. |
| [13:10:15] | Shiggs|MB: | >_> |
| [13:11:21] | Shiggs|MB: | I have my system (custom built Intel Core i5–2500k) overclocked at the moment, but even when running at stock it still does it |
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| [13:18:11] | justinh: | hahaha I had an extra TB I wasn't using |
| [13:19:02] | Shiggs|MB: | ... |
| [13:21:11] | justinh: | oh no.. WTF gparted you LIED! |
| [13:21:28] | justinh: | sdd1 WAS active |
| [13:21:35] | justinh: | oh you frickin little git |
| [13:21:40] | justinh: | q |
| [13:25:16] | Shiggs|MB: | lol. |
| [13:26:40] | justinh: | oh great now my UPS is unavailable |
| [13:27:01] | Shiggs|MB: | >_> |
| [13:33:15] | justinh: | oh wth.. mythbackend isn't working since I rebooted with the new HDD in place |
| [13:33:25] | justinh: | and mysql isn't accepting connections. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| [13:33:27] | justinh: | I HATE UBUNTU |
| [13:35:12] | tgm4883: | ... |
| [13:35:25] | justinh: | WTF? "/usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/my.cnf" |
| [13:39:10] | Shiggs|MB: | o_O |
| [13:39:11] | Shiggs|MB: | strange |
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| [13:46:51] | justinh: | oh NUT. STFU about the UPS not being available. You've worked for over a year & survived a couple of reboots.. now suddenly... YOU FRICKIN RETARD |
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| [13:51:42] | justinh: | I can see me switching distros this weekend |
| [13:52:33] | justinh: | you go along merrily for a while, then discover unique 'kinks' ubuntu like to put in things which MESS THINGS UP. Oh wait, I guess all distros do that to make life 'easier' for users |
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| [14:00:59] | awalls: | Gnome 3, systemd, ... |
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| [14:09:12] | Shiggs|MB: | if anyone can help me PM me. thanks. Look up for my issues |
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| [14:25:36] | styelz: | mew |
| [14:26:42] | dcg_: | hi all, anyone had experience with getting myth working with custom alsa config? |
| [14:26:46] | wagnerrp: | NickHu: the PS3 will probably do prologic |
| [14:26:51] | wagnerrp: | not exactly 5.1 but... |
| [14:28:04] | dcg_: | I have a working asoundrc (tested with speaker-test and aplay) but myth says that the virtual device is not valid.... |
| [14:28:27] | wagnerrp: | dcg_: in the audio setup, scan for audio devices and myth should pick up the new option |
| [14:28:45] | wagnerrp: | it could be youre using the wrong syntax to type it in |
| [14:29:11] | wagnerrp: | and please dont ask the same question simultaneously in multiple channels |
| [14:29:12] | dcg_: | wagnerrp: that is when myth tells me it is not a valid device, I type in ALSA:Both which *should* just work |
| [14:29:31] | wagnerrp: | let mythtv scan for devices |
| [14:29:50] | dcg_: | wagnerrp: sorry I have found in the past that some people only listen in either dev or user channels :) |
| [14:30:16] | dcg_: | wagnerrp: myth refuses to find any devices that are not hardware |
| [14:30:24] | wagnerrp: | thats true, but the people listening in only the dev channels have no desire to assist with user support in dev channels |
| [14:31:31] | wagnerrp: | is there any chance mythfrontend is looking elsewhere for its asoundrc? |
| [14:31:55] | dcg_: | I am asking in the dev channel as I suspect a bug, and have been looking at the source myself.... |
| [14:31:58] | wagnerrp: | perhaps some wrapper script that redirected $HOME elsewhere? |
| [14:32:21] | wagnerrp: | is 'mythfrontend' a binary or a script? |
| [14:32:31] | dcg_: | I guess that is a possibility, though i can't see anything to suggest so. |
| [14:33:01] | dcg_: | it is a script, that checks for a couple of sanity issues then runs mythfrontend.real |
| [14:33:11] | wagnerrp: | so youre using mythbuntu |
| [14:33:13] | dcg_: | btw this is a current mythbuntu install |
| [14:33:17] | dcg_: | yep |
| [14:33:28] | wagnerrp: | i believe the mythbuntu wrapper sets home elsewhere |
| [14:33:33] | wagnerrp: | like /etc/mythtv |
| [14:33:48] | dcg_: | give me a moment and I will check for that.... |
| [14:33:49] | wagnerrp: | meaning mythfrontend might want to look in /etc/mythtv/.asoundrc |
| [14:37:39] | Korny1: | The only reason I needed to set asoundrc on my FE were to get sound outside of myth.... |
| [14:37:51] | wagnerrp: | sounds odd |
| [14:37:57] | dcg_: | no, out of /proc/$(pidof mythfrontend.real)/environ $HOME and $PWD are both the home dir of the user involved. |
| [14:38:16] | Korny1: | I never messed with it for myth itself, but for games and for flash video I needed to set it for HDMI |
| [14:40:23] | wagnerrp: | dcg_: well thats all ive got, i intentionally avoid audio as much as possible |
| [14:41:04] | dcg_: | my .asoundrc is here http://pastebin.com/rYALCBgb |
| [14:41:52] | dcg_: | the reason for this is to enable a usb headset, so that either my wife or I can continue to watch something after the other has gone to bed. |
| [14:42:51] | dcg_: | it does work despite the error, but you can't set to anything other than stereo speakers, so we loose surround (5.1) |
| [14:44:56] | dcg_: | as I mentioned earlier I believe it is likely a bug with myth, as other tools can correctly use the "Both" device I have created |
| [14:45:43] | wagnerrp: | i know others have set up custom asoundrcs, for purposes like duplicating audio to multiple outputs |
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| [14:46:45] | dcg_: | that is exactly what I am doing, but I had to start from scratch as I could not find any examples for myth. possibly I need to do it a different way/ |
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| [15:21:57] | stoth: | morning all |
| [15:28:14] | stoth: | Any recommendations for the easiest upgrade from .24 (stock Lucid 10.04) to a .24 fixes build that fully support the home run prime? |
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| [15:42:27] | Korny1: | You using mythbuntu? |
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| [16:04:41] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
| [16:05:00] | mattwj2002: | I want to go pick up my cablecard |
| [16:06:02] | mattwj2002: | for my wintv-dcr-2650 |
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| [17:24:29] | Shiggs|MB: | So to be straight to the point: I think my issue has to do with MySql and MythBackEnd. I assue this because I cannot reboot successfully when I have MySql set to load on the default runlevel. Once I boot into my other Gentoo install to disable it, and then boot back into Funtoo it boots fine. |
| [17:24:45] | Shiggs|MB: | install to disable it, and then boot back into Funtoo it boots fine. |
| [17:24:45] | Shiggs|MB: | <Shiggs|MB> Upon running rc-status and rc-status boot I see that Mythbackend crashes on boot up. |
| [17:24:45] | Shiggs|MB: | <Shiggs|MB> Also, when I try and load the frontend it complains that the backend isn't running, but when I rc-config start mythbackend, it is indeed running. |
| [17:24:45] | Shiggs|MB: | <Shiggs|MB> >_> |
| [17:24:45] | Shiggs|MB: | <Shiggs|MB> I have my system (custom built Intel Core i5–2500k) overclocked at the moment, but even when running at stock it still does it |
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| [17:33:24] | Shiggs|MB: | ....anyone? |
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| [17:39:58] | Shiggs|MB: | ..... |
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| [17:48:22] | larrikin: | cant wait ... http://gitorious.org/crystalhd-video |
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| [17:50:05] | mattwj2002: | well I got my cable card |
| [17:50:08] | mattwj2002: | hi all |
| [17:50:36] | mattwj2002: | that was pretty painless |
| [17:53:54] | Shiggs|MB: | heh |
| [17:54:22] | mattwj2002: | what is the laughter for? |
| [17:54:23] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [17:54:33] | Shiggs|MB: | cuz I can |
| [17:54:34] | Shiggs|MB: | :P |
| [17:54:37] | mattwj2002: | lol |
| [17:55:02] | mattwj2002: | it is doing an over the cable firmware upgrade |
| [17:55:08] | Shiggs|MB: | kewl |
| [17:55:16] | mattwj2002: | so here sit and wait |
| [17:55:17] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [17:55:33] | mattwj2002: | 75% complete! |
| [17:55:38] | Shiggs|MB: | zoh ones |
| [17:55:41] | Shiggs|MB: | noes* |
| [17:57:20] | mattwj2002: | Shiggs you have the wintv-dcr box or the hdhomerun prime? |
| [18:00:15] | wagnerrp: | Shiggs|MB: can we see your backend logs? |
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| [18:09:29] | wagnerrp: | sphery: Allen would be so disappointed |
| [18:10:16] | wagnerrp: | wait, thats not the page im thinking of |
| [18:11:07] | wagnerrp: | im thinking of "Digital Audio Tutorial" |
| [18:11:15] | wagnerrp: | maybe the two should be merged |
| [18:12:36] | sphery: | wagnerrp: or deleted |
| [18:12:42] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [18:12:51] | sphery: | that asoundrc came from a post I did back in like 2005 or so |
| [18:13:22] | sphery: | I really believe both should be deleted--because audio config now is nothing like it was when either of those pages were written |
| [18:13:31] | sphery: | I know jya would support deleting both |
| [18:14:22] | wagnerrp: | but... neither are {{ready for deletion}} |
| [18:14:53] | sphery: | yeah, I didn't go that far since I didn't know if others would agree |
| [18:15:50] | larrikin: | does alsa have a way to mix 5.1 to 3.1 via that channel mapping stuff, or is it always one input chan to one output chan ..? |
| [18:16:13] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has a way to remix audio internally |
| [18:16:29] | wagnerrp: | although a 3.1 system is pretty funky |
| [18:16:29] | sphery: | not sure whether it supports 3.1, though |
| [18:16:37] | larrikin: | well I'd like to do it systemwide |
| [18:16:41] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if you can actually tell it your system is 3.1 |
| [18:16:51] | larrikin: | so at the alsa level would be perfect |
| [18:17:17] | larrikin: | I just don't have rear speakers :) |
| [18:17:25] | larrikin: | I know, I'm crazy |
| [18:17:51] | sphery: | the biggest challenge is how you mix depends on your input channels |
| [18:18:18] | sphery: | it can be done with ttables, but you need to know what to mix from where and how much--which means knowing input |
| [18:18:49] | larrikin: | I understand,.. 7/6.1 down to 5.1 would be hardcoded somwhere and nobody would care about 3.1 understandably |
| [18:19:53] | sphery: | you're actually close to having enough speakers for PanAmbio 4.1, for which ALSA includes a conf |
| [18:20:56] | sphery: | (granted, you probably can't just add one more speaker because of mis-matching, but...) |
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| [18:33:24] | larrikin: | most of my fta is still SD with 2 channel audio, my setup is still only SD capable on the playback side.. only the rare occasions when I'm watching sports on an HD chan do I notice the soundfield flipping between true 5.1 (program) vs. upconverted stereo (ads) .. |
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| [18:55:27] | mattwj2002: | well |
| [18:55:34] | mattwj2002: | here is my current progress |
| [18:55:53] | mattwj2002: | they screwed up |
| [18:56:01] | mattwj2002: | and forgot to bill me for it |
| [18:56:34] | mattwj2002: | until some guy calls me in an hour |
| [18:56:37] | larrikin: | the cableguy will be coming after you.. |
| [18:56:50] | mattwj2002: | haha |
| [18:56:56] | justinh: | hahaha. something, or somebody had run setserial & borked ttyS0.. so NUT was screwed |
| [18:57:01] | justinh: | stupid users |
| [18:57:54] | mattwj2002: | I thought we were going for more advance support not cable installers |
| [18:57:57] | mattwj2002: | *burn* |
| [18:58:00] | mattwj2002: | ;) |
| [18:59:23] | larrikin: | http://media.nj.com/bayonne_impact/photo/walt . . . 74_large.jpg |
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| [19:01:11] | mattwj2002: | whatever |
| [19:01:12] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [19:01:28] | larrikin: | plaza cable are coming to get you |
| [19:03:01] | mattwj2002: | for what? |
| [19:03:06] | mattwj2002: | I didn't do anything wrong |
| [19:03:08] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [19:07:22] | justinh: | mattwj2002: looks like I'm only seeing one side of a conversation. It's still funny. God bless TLD /ignore |
| [19:07:52] | wagnerrp: | wow, 3TB external hitachi for $80 |
| [19:09:28] | wagnerrp: | sold out in hours, not unexpectedly |
| [19:09:59] | larrikin: | need GPT .. |
| [19:10:06] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [19:10:20] | larrikin: | MBR goes up to 2TB |
| [19:10:38] | wagnerrp: | ok? |
| [19:12:06] | larrikin: | what? can't I just be obtuse and leave it there ? :) http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/233291-32-what-difference |
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| [19:12:49] | Shiggs|MB: | wagnerrp: see, I can get it all to work, but for some reason Mythbackend won't successfully start on boot up when it's on runlevel 'default' |
| [19:13:10] | Shiggs|MB: | log forthcomong |
| [19:13:14] | Shiggs|MB: | coming* |
| [19:13:37] | wagnerrp: | larrikin: its external, USB... comes with its own controller... doesnt need a GPT capable motherboard |
| [19:14:05] | [R]: | wagnerrp: gpt vs mbr in the partition table sense |
| [19:14:10] | [R]: | wagnerrp: not the booting sense |
| [19:14:11] | justinh: | Shiggs|MB: prolly cos an essential service – e.g. network, mysql etc isn't running when mythbackend starts |
| [19:14:12] | wagnerrp: | and should you want to take it out of the case and make it internal, any motherboard from the last 2–3 years will support GPT partitioning |
| [19:14:25] | wagnerrp: | [R]: if youre using it for mythtv, you likely dont want to partition it |
| [19:14:34] | larrikin: | wagnerrp: okay, I didn't realise |
| [19:14:38] | [R]: | wagnerrp: your gonna make a filesystem over the whoel drive? |
| [19:14:49] | Shiggs|MB: | justinh: / wagnerrp: http://pastie.org/2585653 |
| [19:14:58] | wagnerrp: | Shiggs|MB: are you doing something foolish like letting networkmanager handle your network? |
| [19:15:04] | wagnerrp: | [R]: sure, why not? |
| [19:15:07] | Shiggs|MB: | I'm running Funtoo |
| [19:15:13] | Shiggs|MB: | not Ubuntu or otherwise |
| [19:15:18] | [R]: | lol |
| [19:15:20] | Shiggs|MB: | Funtoo = a Gentoo variant |
| [19:15:22] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what Funtoo is |
| [19:15:25] | Shiggs|MB: | Funtoo = a Gentoo variant |
| [19:15:25] | Shiggs|MB: | Funtoo = a Gentoo variant |
| [19:15:26] | justinh: | wth is ? nevermind |
| [19:15:30] | Shiggs|MB: | lol |
| [19:15:35] | justinh: | like gentoo but 'fun' ? |
| [19:15:38] | Shiggs|MB: | sure lol |
| [19:15:46] | Shiggs|MB: | my friend wanted me to run that |
| [19:15:47] | Shiggs|MB: | O_o; |
| [19:16:01] | wagnerrp: | so your backend is coming up before the database |
| [19:16:04] | justinh: | of all the bad things I ever said about gentoo when I jumped ship to ubuntu, I take them all back |
| [19:16:11] | Shiggs|MB: | lol |
| [19:16:16] | Shiggs|MB: | wagnerrp: yeah so how do I flip that order? |
| [19:16:18] | [R]: | wagnerrp: that's what she said? |
| [19:16:20] | Shiggs|MB: | lmao |
| [19:16:26] | Shiggs|MB: | wow |
| [19:16:50] | wagnerrp: | where are you getting your init script? |
| [19:16:51] | justinh: | is funtoo still using sysv init? |
| [19:16:57] | wagnerrp: | can i see your init script? |
| [19:17:04] | Shiggs|MB: | sure |
| [19:17:08] | justinh: | there's a quite simple way you can make mythbackend's init script wait for mysql etc |
| [19:18:51] | Shiggs|MB: | here's my init script: http://pastie.org/2585669 |
| [19:19:11] | wagnerrp: | yeah, 'use mysql' in the depend block should do it |
| [19:19:15] | mattwj2002: | well I get the cablecard guide |
| [19:19:26] | mattwj2002: | but can't tune the channels |
| [19:19:31] | wagnerrp: | do you actually have mysql set to star up? |
| [19:19:42] | Shiggs|MB: | well, when I do it just hangs |
| [19:19:58] | wagnerrp: | you mean you dont have mysql running? |
| [19:20:05] | wagnerrp: | you cant do much in mythtv without mysql |
| [19:20:08] | Shiggs|MB: | I know |
| [19:20:16] | Shiggs|MB: | I have to start it manually |
| [19:20:25] | Shiggs|MB: | otherwise my system won't fully boot |
| [19:20:27] | Shiggs|MB: | it's a new install |
| [19:20:32] | Shiggs|MB: | so no true Xorg or anything yet |
| [19:20:34] | wagnerrp: | so you dont have mysql set to start on boot |
| [19:20:36] | Shiggs|MB: | on an SSD |
| [19:20:42] | Shiggs|MB: | wagnerrp: correct. |
| [19:20:43] | wagnerrp: | so OF COURSE MYTHTV WILL FAIL BECAUSE MYSQL ISNT RUNNING |
| [19:20:46] | Shiggs|MB: | >_> |
| [19:20:49] | wagnerrp: | sheesh |
| [19:20:53] | [R]: | ROFL |
| [19:20:55] | Shiggs|MB: | I can get it running after boot |
| [19:21:07] | wagnerrp: | YES, AFTER YOU START MYSQL |
| [19:21:11] | Shiggs|MB: | I recorded last night's Fringe |
| [19:21:14] | ** mattwj2002 hand face ** | |
| [19:21:23] | Shiggs|MB: | yeah... but I don't want to have Mythbackend running in a terminal |
| [19:21:24] | [R]: | wagnerrp: serenity now |
| [19:21:28] | mattwj2002: | even I knew that |
| [19:21:30] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [19:21:34] | Shiggs|MB: | it should daemonize |
| [19:21:40] | wagnerrp: | so you run it with -d and --logfile |
| [19:21:42] | Shiggs|MB: | mattwj2002: I knew that as well, but it woldn't work for me |
| [19:21:51] | Shiggs|MB: | run what with those options? |
| [19:21:52] | wagnerrp: | or better yet, you figure out how to get mysql running on boot |
| [19:23:16] | Shiggs|MB: | I think I might have found my error/issue |
| [19:23:30] | Shiggs|MB: | the Mysql init script is looking for net.lo (loopback) |
| [19:23:46] | Shiggs|MB: | I just set it to net.eth0 |
| [19:23:48] | wagnerrp: | if you dont have a loopback device, your linux system is broken |
| [19:23:57] | Shiggs|MB: | I do I have one |
| [19:24:03] | wagnerrp: | just make a copy, and name it net.lo0 |
| [19:24:13] | wagnerrp: | the script knows what to do based off its name |
| [19:24:21] | Shiggs|MB: | depend() { |
| [19:24:21] | Shiggs|MB: | use net.eth0 |
| [19:24:21] | Shiggs|MB: | # localmount needed for $basedir |
| [19:24:21] | Shiggs|MB: | need localmount |
| [19:24:29] | Shiggs|MB: | that's in the MySql init script |
| [19:25:03] | Shiggs|MB: | it said net.lo before |
| [19:25:16] | wagnerrp: | net.lo then |
| [19:25:30] | Shiggs|MB: | it won't boot when I have that set. |
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| [19:26:22] | wagnerrp: | you seem to be having all sorts of trouble with your base system |
| [19:26:28] | wagnerrp: | that need to be resolved before messing with mythtv |
| [19:26:52] | Shiggs|MB: | ...didn't someone here say there's a simple way to change boot process order? |
| [19:27:15] | wagnerrp: | with the 'need' and 'use' flags |
| [19:27:24] | wagnerrp: | need tells the system you cant run without it |
| [19:27:38] | wagnerrp: | use tells the system that if the other program is set to run, run it before me |
| [19:28:00] | Shiggs|MB: | ok so in the mysql script there what should it say? |
| [19:28:20] | mattwj2002: | O_O |
| [19:28:27] | mattwj2002: | I think it might be working |
| [19:28:42] | wagnerrp: | what it already says |
| [19:29:00] | Shiggs|MB: | ok I'll test that out |
| [19:29:26] | Shiggs|MB: | I have another Linux install on another HDD to play with if that still doesn't work |
| [19:29:34] | Shiggs|MB: | play with and boot from to remove that runtime file |
| [19:29:43] | mattwj2002: | I think it works!!!! |
| [19:29:44] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [19:29:47] | ** mattwj2002 dances ** | |
| [19:29:51] | Shiggs|MB: | yay |
| [19:30:11] | Shiggs|MB: | and nope of course not |
| [19:30:12] | Shiggs|MB: | >_> |
| [19:30:55] | justinh: | hang on, wind back a wee bit.. using all of a 3TB HDD.. one partition.. a 'bad thing'? Heh. Sod it it's what I'm doing |
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| [19:32:14] | wagnerrp: | net.lo should have already been set to run on boot |
| [19:32:37] | ** mattwj2002 dances ** | |
| [19:32:47] | ** mattwj2002 dances with wagnerrp ** | |
| [19:32:52] | Shiggs|MB: | lol |
| [19:33:04] | wagnerrp: | cable guy come? |
| [19:33:20] | mattwj2002: | nope |
| [19:33:31] | wagnerrp: | oh, this is a self-setup |
| [19:34:46] | wagnerrp: | funtoo's portage tree is git based? |
| [19:34:49] | mattwj2002: | xris: did you ever get yours going? |
| [19:34:55] | wagnerrp: | well that cant scale well |
| [19:35:00] | Shiggs|MB: | ... |
| [19:35:35] | wagnerrp: | the whole point of using rsync is that the user only sees the latest version |
| [19:35:41] | wagnerrp: | they have no reason to go back in history |
| [19:35:51] | wagnerrp: | they have no reason to have a needlessly growing tree |
| [19:36:02] | Shiggs|MB: | as I said my friend wanted me to use Funtoo |
| [19:36:05] | Shiggs|MB: | he runs with it fine |
| [19:36:33] | wagnerrp: | im trying to figure out just what is different between gentoo and funtoo |
| [19:36:56] | Shiggs|MB: | I'm thinking it's just the package tree |
| [19:36:58] | Shiggs|MB: | not sure though |
| [19:38:40] | Shiggs|MB: | ok so I have another small issue |
| [19:39:15] | Shiggs|MB: | Live TV has a slight white border along the right and bottom edge |
| [19:39:16] | Shiggs|MB: | >_> |
| [19:40:16] | Shiggs|MB: | how do I rid of that? |
| [19:41:03] | wagnerrp: | is that white border the window manager's background image? |
| [19:41:26] | Shiggs|MB: | I'm running TWM atm |
| [19:41:32] | xris: | mattwj2002: yeah, works great |
| [19:41:33] | Shiggs|MB: | I don't have KDE etc setup yet |
| [19:41:47] | mattwj2002: | mine is working great too |
| [19:41:47] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [19:41:53] | wagnerrp: | if you are running this as a dedicated frontend, you dont want KDE etc set up at all |
| [19:41:54] | Shiggs|MB: | it comes up in recordings too >_> |
| [19:42:20] | wagnerrp: | does it show up in the UI? |
| [19:42:23] | Shiggs|MB: | wagnerrp: well this machine'll be for my media overall |
| [19:42:27] | Shiggs|MB: | and no it doesn't |
| [19:42:45] | Shiggs|MB: | I'll be using this machine for MythTV and general media viewing using MPlayer2/VLC etc |
| [19:42:55] | wagnerrp: | why not use mythtv for general media viewing? |
| [19:43:10] | Shiggs|MB: | because I have MKV files and so on |
| [19:43:11] | wagnerrp: | do you have playback set to use a different size from the UI? |
| [19:43:12] | Shiggs|MB: | do thoe work? |
| [19:43:18] | wagnerrp: | mythtv handles MKV files just fine |
| [19:43:26] | Shiggs|MB: | with subtitles and stuff? |
| [19:43:42] | Shiggs|MB: | H264 720 etc |
| [19:43:57] | wagnerrp: | should, yes |
| [19:44:16] | wagnerrp: | what playback profile are you using? |
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| [19:44:26] | Shiggs|MB: | even so I prefer using a full desktop environment |
| [19:44:29] | Shiggs|MB: | and I dunno |
| [19:44:46] | wagnerrp: | if you never leave mythfrontend, then the full desktop environment doesnt get you anything |
| [19:44:59] | Shiggs|MB: | even so I prefer using a full desktop environment |
| [19:44:59] | Shiggs|MB: | even so I prefer using a full desktop environment |
| [19:45:06] | wagnerrp: | if you do leave mythfrontend, well then you're probably best off running mythfrontend under a separate user |
| [19:45:13] | wagnerrp: | and then ctrl+alt+Fn |
| [19:45:28] | wagnerrp: | switch to a different virtual terminal, and log into a full user |
| [19:45:37] | larrikin: | how many of you have something like this? -> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265641-32-4 . . . rmance-issue |
| [19:46:05] | Shiggs|MB: | wagnerrp: as I said, I don't want to do it like that |
| [19:46:27] | wagnerrp: | larrikin: there are several people in here with over 10TB storage |
| [19:46:31] | wagnerrp: | and a couple over 20TB storage |
| [19:46:53] | wagnerrp: | ive not heard specifically of someone with 36TB or more |
| [19:46:58] | larrikin: | I see .. well phear my 0.8TB storage |
| [19:47:24] | Shiggs|MB: | I have.... around 3.5 GB atm ol |
| [19:47:26] | Shiggs|MB: | lol* |
| [19:47:33] | Shiggs|MB: | erm |
| [19:47:34] | Shiggs|MB: | TB |
| [19:48:24] | wagnerrp: | larrikin: chances are the drives are EARS units |
| [19:48:40] | wagnerrp: | and hes having horrible performance issues with his RAID card not understanding why the drive is lying to it |
| [19:48:56] | wagnerrp: | thats why we dont build RAID arrays using WD Greens |
| [19:49:22] | larrikin: | yep.. I have a bunch of velociraptors myself.. |
| [19:49:34] | wagnerrp: | well thats foolish in the other direction |
| [19:49:38] | larrikin: | :) |
| [19:49:44] | iamlindoro: | clever girl |
| [19:50:24] | wagnerrp: | a couple years ago, velociraptors made sense |
| [19:50:34] | iamlindoro: | til they learned to open doors |
| [19:50:40] | wagnerrp: | today... better of just using SSDs if you need more performance than a 7200rpm drive gets you |
| [19:51:01] | wagnerrp: | but its not the 5900rpm that makes the Greens a bad choise |
| [19:51:12] | wagnerrp: | it is bad "features" built into the firmware |
| [19:51:19] | skd5aner: | remember when those velociraptors ate Newman, and then Kramer bumped his head into the tree branch running away? |
| [19:51:23] | skd5aner: | wait... I'm confusing some things |
| [19:51:24] | wagnerrp: | the 8 second auto-park mechanism he does mention |
| [19:51:24] | larrikin: | wagnerrp: yeah, I have an unfortunate background in 15k scsi .. |
| [19:51:58] | wagnerrp: | and the 4K blocks that lie and tell you they are 512 byte blocks |
| [19:52:34] | wagnerrp: | chances are the RAID array has no way to know that the drives are not what they claim to be |
| [19:52:46] | wagnerrp: | and has set the strip boundary in the middle of a block boundary |
| [19:53:22] | wagnerrp: | chances are equally good that the special WD drivers meant to correct for the fact that the firmware lies cannot tell those are WD drives behind that array, and configure windows to properly use them |
| [19:53:52] | wagnerrp: | in other words, the guy spent about four grand on a big mistake |
| [19:54:04] | larrikin: | nothing beats doing things properly.. its just a question of $$ .. |
| [19:54:21] | Shiggs|MB: | is netif.lo the same as net.lo? |
| [19:55:44] | larrikin: | its running freenas .. so the only windows is at the end of an ethernet cable.. |
| [19:57:27] | Shiggs|MB: | is netif.lo the same as net.lo? |
| [19:57:28] | Shiggs|MB: | is netif.lo the same as net.lo? |
| [20:00:28] | wagnerrp: | larrikin: freenas would have the same problem, because those drives suck |
| [20:00:50] | wagnerrp: | everyone bought them, because they were the cheapest things around |
| [20:00:53] | Shiggs|MB: | <_< |
| [20:00:58] | wagnerrp: | and they should not be used outside windows vista and 7 |
| [20:01:02] | wagnerrp: | and then only as bare drives |
| [20:01:29] | wagnerrp: | anything else will be at least a nuisance as you have to manually fix it |
| [20:01:37] | wagnerrp: | or at worst a huge performance issue, as seen there |
| [20:01:38] | larrikin: | so WD did a shady deal with m$ |
| [20:01:54] | wagnerrp: | no, WD switched to 4K drives, as its the sensible thing to do |
| [20:02:11] | wagnerrp: | they then proceeded to make their drives report 512b block sizes, so they continue to work with Windows XP |
| [20:02:25] | larrikin: | oh .. |
| [20:03:27] | wagnerrp: | if your partitioning scheme happens to fall on an 8 block boundary, everything works great |
| [20:03:29] | larrikin: | well there's some chance that the SPM394 devices are smart enough to detect a WD green |
| [20:03:56] | wagnerrp: | larrikin: the controller would have to be specifically programmed to know the device was lying to it |
| [20:04:07] | wagnerrp: | personally, i think thats a bad thing to program into something |
| [20:04:12] | larrikin: | but thats exactly what I'm suggesting |
| [20:04:33] | wagnerrp: | standard BIOS partitioning puts the MBR on the first 63 blocks |
| [20:04:39] | wagnerrp: | resulting in large problems |
| [20:04:58] | wagnerrp: | chances are that controller puts its configuration data in some range not divisible by 8 blocks |
| [20:05:28] | larrikin: | yep, but this is using a hardware raid 5 device which presents a single volume to the host PC BIOS |
| [20:05:52] | larrikin: | transparently |
| [20:05:53] | wagnerrp: | yes, but it stores its own configuration information on the drive |
| [20:05:58] | wagnerrp: | so it knows how to set itself up on boot |
| [20:06:38] | wagnerrp: | so if that configuration block is sized such that the stripe set falls somewhere other than the true 4K block boundary, you're screwed with no way to correct it |
| [20:06:51] | wagnerrp: | other than to replace the drives with truthful ones |
| [20:07:44] | wagnerrp: | similarly, if the volume it presents to the PC BIOS does not report itself as using 4K blocks |
| [20:07:48] | larrikin: | I could post you a hammer and some old WD's I have if that would help... |
| [20:08:04] | wagnerrp: | the WD drivers will not know to tell windows to do the correct thing |
| [20:08:26] | wagnerrp: | and so windows will again assuming the wrong boundaries and have additional performance issues |
| [20:08:52] | wagnerrp: | its just a huge cluster-f--- on WDs part to allow their hardware to be used by XP users |
| [20:09:11] | wagnerrp: | except... people still running a 10yr old operating system are not the type to be upgrading their computers in the first place |
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| [20:09:51] | iamlindoro: | Those same people seem to think it's okay to upgrade myth, though :) |
| [20:09:53] | larrikin: | and its the first cluster-f---- WD have ever perp.. I know this cause I have a 60Gb WD600BB sitting in a box somewhere that goes clunk clink clunk and not much else |
| [20:10:01] | iamlindoro: | "So I'm running master on my VIA Epia..." |
| [20:10:32] | wagnerrp: | i need help installing mythtv on my xbox |
| [20:11:20] | larrikin: | so you never answered my question.. will mythtv run on a Tandy TRS-80 ? |
| [20:11:48] | iamlindoro: | only if you drop a proper computer on top of it |
| [20:11:57] | larrikin: | :) |
| [20:12:04] | wagnerrp: | no, but we do have someone working on getting it installed on their casio 4-color graphing calculator |
| [20:12:38] | larrikin: | I have never been able to justify a grpahing calculator.. |
| [20:12:41] | justinh: | 3TB on windows XP? Ha |
| [20:13:01] | larrikin: | *graphing .. I mean they aren't allow in exams anyway |
| [20:13:36] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what pissy schools you went to that didnt allow graphing calculators in exams |
| [20:15:04] | larrikin: | pissy universities ..:( |
| [20:15:18] | larrikin: | they still expect you to just *know* stuff. |
| [20:15:37] | wagnerrp: | screw that, half our tests were open book |
| [20:15:37] | justinh: | graphical calculators? pfft.. we could only *dream* of such things |
| [20:15:50] | wagnerrp: | sensible universities expect that you know how to apply stuff |
| [20:16:09] | wagnerrp: | requiring rote memorization of dozens of equations and formulas is pointless |
| [20:16:22] | larrikin: | yep, but we were talking about pissy universities :) |
| [20:16:23] | wagnerrp: | may as well be memorizing names and dates as a history major |
| [20:16:48] | justinh: | we had to memorise the proof of op-amp gain in our analogue electronics unit :-\ |
| [20:17:05] | justinh: | all the working out runs to about 3 sides of A4 |
| [20:17:25] | larrikin: | been there |
| [20:17:47] | larrikin: | laplace convolution all that jazz |
| [20:19:15] | larrikin: | all it ever did was make my head hurt.. alcohol can do that but with much greater side benefit.. |
| [20:24:43] | Shiggs|MB: | so about that white border.... how do I remove it? it's only when in Live TV mode... the MythTV UI is fine |
| [20:25:04] | wagnerrp: | what video profile are you using? |
| [20:25:14] | wagnerrp: | did you tell mythtv to run a different size and/or resolution for playback? |
| [20:25:19] | Shiggs|MB: | no |
| [20:25:23] | Shiggs|MB: | not that I'm aware of |
| [20:25:29] | ** awalls assumes open loop gain -> infinity ** | |
| [20:26:23] | Shiggs|MB: | and it's more than just playback |
| [20:26:30] | Shiggs|MB: | it's in recordings as well |
| [20:26:42] | larrikin: | awalls :( ..it gets worse.. there's something called input offset current.. |
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| [20:27:46] | awalls: | larrikin: Heh. It's been since 1989 since I had that undergrad class. I can't remember much anymore. :) |
| [20:29:24] | Shiggs|MB: | erm I meant to say it's more than just live TV |
| [20:29:26] | Shiggs|MB: | sorry |
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| [20:37:20] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [20:37:25] | Beirdo: | morning/afternoon all |
| [20:38:16] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: no need to say hi, if you have a question just ask and the room will respond if it knows the answer |
| [20:38:18] | skd5aner: | ;) |
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| [20:38:27] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [20:38:44] | Beirdo: | yeah, they said that in #vbox last night... and nobody answered |
| [20:39:27] | justinh: | maybe the question was too noobish ;) |
| [20:39:38] | Beirdo: | no, more likely too hard |
| [20:40:08] | Beirdo: | trying to figure out why iscsi initiator decided that to get to 192.168.2.5, it should connect to localhost |
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| [20:40:19] | justinh: | I remember some other IRC channels.. oof. #alsa basically, if you follow the docs & still have problems, you're boned basically |
| [20:40:23] | Beirdo: | and this started in the middle of the day yesterday |
| [20:40:36] | Beirdo: | worked before, didn't after |
| [20:40:50] | justinh: | and #gentoo helped me out once when I was having issues making apache work.. turned out I didn't have enough entropy (!) |
| [20:40:51] | Beirdo: | so I made xinetd redirect the port. Hardly the correct way |
| [20:41:08] | justinh: | weird |
| [20:41:20] | Beirdo: | yeah, my sentiments exactly |
| [20:41:29] | Beirdo: | but as long as it will work, should do for now |
| [20:51:07] | ecksii: | Hi, I'm trying to get mythbuntu 11.04 working with an hd-pvr that I bought about 6 months ago? |
| [20:53:37] | ecksii: | I found an email chain at gossamer that I think solves my problem but wants me to download a git repository in a way I've never used git before and the instructions on the webpage http://git.linuxtv.org/mchehab/new_build.git fail with a fatal error. |
| [20:54:36] | wagnerrp: | any modern kernel should not need external driver modules |
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| [20:56:17] | ecksii: | I'm easy. Is there a more modern mythbuntu that I should use? |
| [20:57:03] | justinh: | why not ask in #mythbuntu? |
| [20:57:05] | wagnerrp: | 11.04 should be plenty recent |
| [20:57:31] | ecksii: | I ask because when I searched this morning the 11.04 that I choose appears to be the latest release. |
| [20:58:09] | tgm4883: | 11.04 should work OOTB with the HDPVR |
| [20:58:39] | ecksii: | Better question and a quick one. I just tried blow this hardware onto an existing mythtv box. |
| [20:58:40] | tgm4883: | The issue more likely is that you didn't specify what your issue is |
| [20:59:09] | ecksii: | The hdpvr isn't recognized by the kernel when I do mod probe -v hdpvr |
| [20:59:49] | ecksii: | I'm more of a freebsd guy how do I tell which version of ubuntu is here as this could be 10.04 |
| [20:59:50] | tgm4883: | why would it be? |
| [21:00:37] | ecksii: | Because I just jumped onto my existing mythbuntu box and tried to make this work. I built this box maybe a year ago. |
| [21:00:40] | tgm4883: | you're telling me when you run that you get "FATAL: Module hdpvr not found." |
| [21:01:15] | ecksii: | usbcore: registered new interface driver... |
| [21:01:18] | tgm4883: | As a reference, my backend is Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS and is using the hdpvr just fine |
| [21:01:35] | tgm4883: | 2.6.32-33-generic |
| [21:01:43] | ecksii: | That's where I am too. |
| [21:01:53] | tgm4883: | no it's not |
| [21:02:06] | tgm4883: | not if you installed 11.04 |
| [21:02:09] | tgm4883: | or was it 10.04? |
| [21:02:16] | tgm4883: | either way, it should work |
| [21:02:20] | ecksii: | That's probably it. |
| [21:02:42] | tgm4883: | Whats the output of |
| [21:02:43] | tgm4883: | cat /var/log/dmesg | grep hdpvr |
| [21:04:16] | ecksii: | I have an 11.04 disc down here but I probably never rebuilt from scratch with it… dmesg is empty. Thanks for the answers and I'm sorry for the stupid question. I'm gonna rebuild this from scratch as now I am certain that I am running whatever mythbuntu shipped with 10.04 LTS as it's back end. |
| [21:05:30] | ecksii: | Just out of curiosity what does lsusb -v say the version of your hdpvr is? mine says 0x4903. According to the thread I found the driver supports up to 0x4902 |
| [21:06:14] | ecksii: | I'll be back if rebuilding doesn't fix things. |
| [21:06:20] | ecksii: | Thanks a lot!!!!! |
| [21:06:36] | tgm4883: | idProduct 0x4902 |
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| [21:07:23] | Beirdo: | OK, Liriano is dropped from my fantasy team |
| [21:07:31] | ecksii: | I had found this which lead me to believe that I'll have problems: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . tall;#459272 |
| [21:07:40] | Beirdo: | trying to win the final round of playoffs, and the jerk just got a -18 |
| [21:08:30] | ecksii: | Thanks all, the proper first step here is to update and see if my problem was covered in a mythbuntu update. |
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| [21:26:56] | notlistening: | If i have recorded programs that show us in mythweb and not the frontend how do i go about deleting them |
| [21:27:18] | notlistening: | I changed the directory they were stored in an manually removed them :( bad move |
| [21:28:53] | justinh: | oops |
| [21:28:57] | justinh: | that'll learn ya |
| [21:45:41] | notlistening: | lol |
| [21:47:42] | notlistening: | someone did show me a way to do it throught the front end before but i can't find that |
| [21:50:04] | justinh: | sounds like you need to show the default recording group |
| [21:50:18] | justinh: | then select all recordings, add to a playlist, go to playlist options.. delete |
| [21:51:23] | notlistening: | I just found how to do it even though it moan that the backend is generating a preview of the show :( |
| [21:52:20] | notlistening: | all gone thanks justinh ;) |
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| [21:58:28] | zone51: | does anyone try to attach mythtv to openbox S10 |
| [22:00:04] | [R]: | what is 'openbox s10'? |
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| [22:00:53] | justinh: | it's a dodgy set top box |
| [22:00:54] | zone51: | dvb receiver with linux onboard |
| [22:01:10] | [R]: | sounds like it has no resources for myth |
| [22:01:28] | justinh: | it hasn't |
| [22:01:29] | zone51: | 400MHz MIPS! |
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| [22:02:15] | justinh: | useless |
| [22:02:50] | justinh: | wow. 128MB RAM. ROFLMAO |
| [22:03:11] | justinh: | you might as well try to run mythfrontend on a digital watch |
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| [22:03:47] | [R]: | 128mb of ram isn't even enough to sneeze with |
| [22:03:56] | [R]: | from the future! |
| [22:03:58] | [R]: | (borat) |
| [22:04:02] | notlistening: | or a virtual machine ;) |
| [22:04:29] | iamlindoro: | I think the bot should auto-kick anyone who says virtual machine |
| [22:04:34] | [R]: | haha |
| [22:04:39] | notlistening: | lol |
| [22:05:25] | justinh: | or cloud |
| [22:05:35] | justinh: | I auto-kick anybody who says cloud near me |
| [22:05:48] | justinh: | could be a problem when I next bump into our CEO... |
| [22:05:50] | [R]: | myth should be in the cloud... |
| [22:06:04] | notlistening: | Agrees with R |
| [22:06:06] | justinh: | Cloud CCTV... |
| [22:06:10] | [R]: | notlistening: i was joking... |
| [22:06:11] | justinh: | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| [22:06:21] | notlistening: | I wasn't |
| [22:06:21] | justinh: | it's ok. notlistening is hard of learning |
| [22:06:29] | notlistening: | lol |
| [22:06:37] | justinh: | we can make allowances |
| [22:06:41] | [R]: | justinh: what does cloud cctv mean? |
| [22:06:42] | notlistening: | the name is very descript |
| [22:06:59] | justinh: | [R]: it means it doesn't frickin work |
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| [22:07:06] | [R]: | justinh: lol |
| [22:07:33] | zone51: | empty rhetoric |
| [22:07:38] | iamlindoro: | I interviewed someone for a position this week who eagerly told me about his experience rolling out "cloud based VOIP" |
| [22:07:39] | justinh: | i.e. damned if anybody really knows what it means, but it might help shift boxes to people clinging onto the zeitgeist |
| [22:07:41] | iamlindoro: | he was not hired |
| [22:08:11] | justinh: | what in the world would be so wrong about just saying what it most likely is.. i.e. distributed architecture |
| [22:08:56] | larrikin: | 'cloud' means allowing someone else to charge you a fortune for the benefit of scaling your server hardware for you |
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| [22:09:19] | justinh: | where did all my data go? did it blow away? did it evaporate? |
| [22:09:38] | iamlindoro: | no, the company hosting it did |
| [22:10:04] | justinh: | anyway.. nice. not seen a 'can I run mythtv on this flea-powered 'linux' set top box?' for a while |
| [22:10:22] | justinh: | iamlindoro: lol |
| [22:11:12] | [R]: | i want to run it on that $25 thing |
| [22:11:20] | [R]: | backend AND frontend |
| [22:11:22] | justinh: | I want the moon on a stick |
| [22:11:39] | justinh: | I want world peace & an end to poverty |
| [22:11:46] | justinh: | and 9 beautiful wives |
| [22:11:50] | justinh: | and a pony |
| [22:12:31] | iamlindoro: | strike that order, reverse it |
| [22:12:38] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [22:13:09] | notlistening: | Is there a way to see what each component of mythbackend is doing, cpu usage? |
| [22:13:57] | larrikin: | its called profiling, ready to roll up your sleeves ? |
| [22:14:14] | justinh: | you know what'd be really nice? a commercial product that does everything mythtv can do, as well as, as reliably as... and cheap. LOL |
| [22:14:14] | notlistening: | They are already rolled up |
| [22:14:23] | [R]: | justinh: in poland, we all had pony |
| [22:14:27] | [R]: | justinh: i had pony, my sister had pony |
| [22:14:37] | justinh: | in russia, pony has you. Or something |
| [22:14:42] | [R]: | lol |
| [22:15:46] | justinh: | oh speaking of reliably... been a good few days since I jettisoned the packages and... so far no deadlocks. touch wooden thing |
| [22:16:03] | Beirdo: | not in public :) |
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| [22:16:57] | justinh: | mind, the box had been up for close to a year, nonstop. I spoiled that by adding a 3TB HDD today |
| [22:17:42] | larrikin: | notlistening: http://valgrind.org |
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| [22:22:12] | notlistening: | thanks larrikin |
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| [22:36:35] | Beirdo: | so bored |
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| [22:51:48] | justinh: | Beirdo: read this blog somebody just recommended to me.. www.girlonthenet.com (very NSFW) |
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| [22:53:05] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:54:26] | justinh: | ugh no wonder I've been struggling with this Merlot. It's frickin Italian |
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| [23:04:02] | Beirdo: | Merlot? Italian? Does not compute. |
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| [23:05:53] | autojack: | can I use a newer mythtv version as the client with an older mythtv server? |
| [23:06:02] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [23:07:06] | autojack: | OK, thanks |
| [23:07:29] | autojack: | hopefully upgrading my 0.22 server won't be too painful :) |
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| [23:18:56] | prologic: | Hey how come I can't schedule a recording via another frontend? There are only TV and Setup items in the main menu |
| [23:19:11] | prologic: | (this frontend is hand-compiled too btw so maybe I'm missing something?) |
| [23:20:21] | prologic: | ahhh no nevermind |
| [23:20:24] | prologic: | I'm stupid :) |
| [23:20:37] | prologic: | but they are still the only two items on the main menu |
| [23:20:40] | prologic: | which is strange |
| [23:20:58] | GreyFoxx: | Not if you forgot to install mythplugins |
| [23:21:34] | iamlindoro: | He's chosen a non-standard menu theme |
| [23:21:45] | iamlindoro: | (and also not installed plugins) |
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| [23:26:56] | prologic: | ahh yeah |
| [23:26:58] | prologic: | of course :) |
| [23:27:04] | prologic: | I haven't compiled the plugins yet |
| [23:27:13] | prologic: | also I seem to have a few font issues as well |
| [23:27:27] | prologic: | I need to upgrade my desktop :/ |
| [23:28:26] | prologic: | also, do you need two video sources for PIP to work ? |
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