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Thursday, September 22nd, 2011, 00:08 UTC

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mattwj2002:

hi all

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mattwj2002:

:D

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mattwj2002:

I got my wintv-dcr-2650

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mattwj2002:

:D

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hoolio:

does it work? ;)

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mattwj2002:

I will pick up my cable card tomorrow

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mattwj2002:

scanning now with mythtv

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mattwj2002:

:)

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mattwj2002:

*wmc

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mattwj2002:

hoolio

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mattwj2002:

what is the trick?

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hoolio:

I've no idea if there is a trick

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hoolio:

was just wondering if you have it working ;)

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mattwj2002:

what my tuners are blinking

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mattwj2002:

hmm

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hoolio:

i've got new hardware before but it doesn't always mean myth love

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mattwj2002:

:P

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mattwj2002:

is that a new addon?

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mattwj2002:

Mythlove?

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wagnerrp:

its a plugin to allow you to interface with various online subscription video chat services

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k-man:

anyone seen any issues when installing mythtv master with a brand new database?

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** skd5aner notices 6 simultaneous recordings going on **

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skd5aner:

woo hoo – premier week!

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styelz:

PIES

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skd5aner:

CAKES

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wagnerrp:

newegg is hosed up...

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skd5aner:

hosedupforeveryoneorjustme.com

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mattwj2002:

hoolio:

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mattwj2002:

are you here?

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hoolio:

ya

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mattwj2002:

my wintv isn't even scanning clear qam?

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hoolio:

sorry mate, wagnerrp is your man

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mattwj2002:

I don't have a cable card

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mattwj2002:

wagnerrp: can you help me?

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skd5aner:

guys... as a matter of suggestion...

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hoolio:

I'm just a loiterer here generally.

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mattwj2002:

oh okay

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mattwj2002:

thank hoolio

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mattwj2002:

*thanks

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hoolio:

:)

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skd5aner:

you might not want to rely on calling specific people out for help, as a general rule...

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skd5aner:

it's better just to "ask the room"

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wagnerrp:

with no cablecard installed, that device should operate just as a hdhomerun

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mattwj2002:

thanks

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hoolio:

yeah, what he said

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skd5aner:

and hopefully someone will answer

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mattwj2002:

I am using wmc to scan with it

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mattwj2002:

I know I know

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wagnerrp:

well... then we cant help you

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skd5aner:

it's just curteous to not single out a specific person as your own personal tech support agent

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mattwj2002:

good point

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mattwj2002:

sorry everyone

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mattwj2002:

or should I say everybody :P

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skd5aner:

no worries – people are happy to help

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skd5aner:

:)

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hoolio:

did i hear you say you were using Windows Media Center?

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skd5aner:

just – noticed it recently and thought I'd say something

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mattwj2002:

I am not using it permanently

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mattwj2002:

I just want to use it enough to get my cable card going

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mattwj2002:

then I'll switch it to mythtv

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iamlindoro:

Windows Media center won't get your cablecard going

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iamlindoro:

Since it has nothing at all to do with activating it

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mattwj2002:

O_O

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mattwj2002:

okay?

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iamlindoro:

Is that a question?

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skd5aner:

you know, I have a brand new HDHR (2 tuner) in box thats a couple years old... I wonder how much I could get for it and use towards a prime (sans cable card)

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mattwj2002:

screw this

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wagnerrp:

you bought it a couple years ago and never used it?

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mattwj2002:

mythtv time

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mattwj2002:

:)

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Korny1:

New ones are only 120 at most

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: yea... got it at the time for 40% off

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: but never opened it and didn't really need it at the time (had 1 already + 2 PCI based QAM tuners)

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wagnerrp:

gah.. why is newegg so slow

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: it said it was down for everyone

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wagnerrp:

its not down, just slow to respond

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wagnerrp:

i wonder if that site has a very short timeout when testing

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mattwj2002:

O_o

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mattwj2002:

it works with mythtv

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mattwj2002:

clear qam that is

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wagnerrp:

of course it does

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wagnerrp:

without a cablecard, it behaves as a HDHomeRun

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hoolio:

skd5aner, what is the exact model number of the hdhomerun?

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mattwj2002:

how does it behave with a cable card?

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hoolio:

I might be interested

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wagnerrp:

as a hdhomerun prime

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mattwj2002:

did we ever get some documentation on this?

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mattwj2002:

I guess I can do a self install with mythtv

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skd5aner:

hoolio: I think it's the HDHR-US

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skd5aner:

hoolio: looks like this – http://www.amazon.com/SiliconDust-HDHomeRun-H . . . p/B0010Y414Q

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iamlindoro:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Configuring_MythTV . . . omeRun_Prime

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iamlindoro:

A self install is advised

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iamlindoro:

A technician is going to come to your house, spend hours, and then ultimately not activate the cablecard correctly

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iamlindoro:

because technicians are morons

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skd5aner:

iamlindoro: have you heard much feedback from non Comcast users?

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iamlindoro:

And I have yet to hear of a successful cablecard activation with a truck roll

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iamlindoro:

skd5aner: RCN and FIOS are about the same situation as comcast, TWC is a disaster

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skd5aner:

(specifically, anyone from TWC reporting good successes?)

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iamlindoro:

Charter and Cox are a question mark

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skd5aner:

:/

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iamlindoro:

nope, TWC makes the Prime useless for us

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skd5aner:

figured as much from all the Tivo stuff

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iamlindoro:

yup, same deal

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mattwj2002:

FIOS isn't the same technology

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mattwj2002:

is it?

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skd5aner:

ahh, crap... gotta run – iamlindoro, if you hear any good news from the TWC side in the future let me know... I don't expect that to happen any time soon (read:ever), but...

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iamlindoro:

uhhhhh it most certainly is

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mattwj2002:

really

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mattwj2002:

wow interestng

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wagnerrp:

FIOS is just digital cable modulated on an optical carrier

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skd5aner:

only difference with FIOS is the medium the signal is transmitted on

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mattwj2002:

cool

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mattwj2002:

I learned something today

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mattwj2002:

:D

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iamlindoro:

and is plain ol' OpenCable QAM, coax and all, in the house

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mattwj2002:

so layer 1

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mattwj2002:

:D

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wagnerrp:

you take one of the beams of light, run it through a broadband transducer, and plug it straight into a QAM tuner

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mattwj2002:

is the only difference

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wagnerrp:

uh oh, people complaining about the lack of gentoo package updates

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iamlindoro:

WHY HATH THOU FORSAKEN US

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mattwj2002:

:P

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snsumner:

Has anyone succesfully gotten TMT3 working with MythTV Frontend on Windows?

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wagnerrp:

i gave these people a fancy script so i didnt have to do updates

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** iamlindoro wonders what TMT3 is supposed to be **

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mattwj2002:

is that like TMZ?

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mattwj2002:

:P

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wagnerrp:

run it with no options for a new trunk ebuild, run it with --version=0.24.1 for a new that ebuild

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snsumner:

Total Media Theatre 3

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wagnerrp:

still wondering that that is

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snsumner:

DVD/BluRay player which does upscaling using CUDA

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wagnerrp:

mythtv doesnt use external players

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snsumner:

I currently use Xlobby as my Frontend and lunch DVD/BluRays using TMT3.

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wagnerrp:

the xlobby site looks like it should have 'as seen on tv' stickers

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iamlindoro:

It's LinuxMCEriffic

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snsumner:

I've been a really great frontend HTPC for many years however it doesn't have any live TV support

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wagnerrp:

yikes... $100 for TMT

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iamlindoro:

That it's not even a ninja

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iamlindoro:

er And it's

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snsumner:

TMT3 is pretty nice software, it has CUDA support and upscales DVD to 1080p but of course ffmeg does that too.

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iamlindoro:

CUDA is a useless buzzword for media playback

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iamlindoro:

If you are CUDA capable, you can do PureVideo and cuda is just a term to sell you overexpensive software

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snsumner:

So does MythTV player support PureVideo?

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wagnerrp:

well, i would assume 'cuda' means they wrote their own shader language upscalers, rather than the one the graphics drivers provide natively

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wagnerrp:

mythtv supports VDPAU, very similar

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snsumner:

ok

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snsumner:

I've heard of VDPAU does that work on Windows version?

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iamlindoro:

no, but DXVA does

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wagnerrp:

Video Decode and Presentation Api for Unix

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wagnerrp:

windows != unix

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snsumner:

ok

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snsumner:

I'm struggling to find the right combination that will meet my requirements

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wagnerrp:

honestly, it looks like someone went into photoshop and applied a sharpness filter, badly... http://www.arcsoft.com/totalmedia-theatre/ima . . . atsNew_4.jpg

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mattwj2002:

:P

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wagnerrp:

IMHO, the one of the left looks much better

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snsumner:

Well I've grown to like TMT3 I didn't upgrade to TMT5 because none of the feature are necessary for me.

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snsumner:

I use to use TheatreTek but that software hasn't been updated in ages.

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp: and of course the example image is 200 pixels wide

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wagnerrp:

true, on real content, it may function better

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snsumner:

Does MythTV Video Library option have the ability to scan NAS for Video_TS and detect DVD collection?

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wagnerrp:

yes, mythtv supports VIDEO_TS folders, ISOs, and most forms of video files

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snsumner:

ok

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wagnerrp:

it does not support external NASs

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snsumner:

I have a UNRAID system with windows shares.

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wagnerrp:

either mount the drives locally, or have mythbackend share the files

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snsumner:

I can mount them to drive letters locally

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snsumner:

either way works

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wagnerrp:

is this the same machine running your backend?

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snsumner:

Does it use spiders like IMDB to get coverart, etc?

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wagnerrp:

no, since IMDB does not allow spiders, robots, or other automated mechanisms to scan their site

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wagnerrp:

it uses themoviedb.org and thetvdb.com, and their respective APIs

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snsumner:

ok

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iamlindoro:

and not on windows

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snsumner:

doh

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snsumner:

doesn't work on the windows version of mythtv frontend, that's a show stopper. ;-(

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sphery:

k-man: that's on my list to fix... someone broke the db logger so that it no longer waits until the logging table exists before starting to log, so I have to rework the code to handle that

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wagnerrp:

you have a mythtv backend, correct?

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** mattwj2002 dances with wagnerrp **

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wagnerrp:

surely you do if youre looking to run the frontend

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snsumner:

yes

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sphery:

I just haven't gotten a chance to work on it--was too busy getting yelled at on the lists, etc

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snsumner:

mythtv backend is running on linux

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mattwj2002:

I have a clearqam tuner!

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mattwj2002:

:D

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k-man:

sphery, ah, so its not me? phew!

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wagnerrp:

this backend is where your media files are stored?

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k-man:

sphery, any suggestion of a work around?

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snsumner:

yes

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snsumner:

I'm running mythtv backend within mythbunu vm under virtualbox on UNRAID

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iamlindoro:

HEADDESK HEADDESK HEADDESK

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wagnerrp:

specify the location of your media files in the 'Videos' storage group, and your backend will stream the files to your windows frontend

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sphery:

k-man: shouldn't need a workaround... just makes for ugly log output until you get past the db schema version that adds the logging table... is yours doing something else?

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snsumner:

Issue is my kids PCs run Win7 on Nvidia ION machines

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k-man:

sphery, is it possible that the breakage also breaks 24.-fixes?

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wagnerrp:

run mythvideo on your backend to download the metadata and images, and they will be shared out to the other frontends as well

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k-man:

sphery, oh – it just seemed to do that for ages then I gave up waiting for it as I assumed it was failing

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k-man:

sphery, I'll run it again shortly to test

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wagnerrp:

and stop running mythtv in a VM

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snsumner:

mythtv in vm is only way because I don't want another server running all the time.

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mattwj2002:

mythtv in a vm?

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mattwj2002:

:O

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wagnerrp:

this is a linux server, correct?

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snsumner:

yes

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sphery:

k-man: db initialization should be pretty quick... not sure why it would take long

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snsumner:

Unraid is off thumb drive running slackware

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wagnerrp:

so why not run mythtv directly on the linux server?

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wagnerrp:

mythtv runs on slackware just fine

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sphery:

and the logging thing definitely won't affect 0.24

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k-man:

sphery, hmmm – this is on my mac homebrew build of mythtv. I can't test right now but I will test it again shortly and report back

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mattwj2002:

I need to check what version I am running

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wagnerrp:

mythtv runs far better on slackware than it does in ubuntu running in a virtualbox vm running on a slackware machine

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snsumner:

so far it runs fine for me.

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snsumner:

however I haven't tried running three tuners in HD mode in parallel to see if it will choke.

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wagnerrp:

replace those two distros with any two others and the statement will remain the same

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sphery:

k-man: ok... it's possible there may be some issues with db init on mac os x--but even after the db changes that made the logger spam the logs with errors, it works fine on Linux

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wagnerrp:

its just pointless

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wagnerrp:

there is no worth do running mythtv in such a convoluted manner unless you are doing it for development

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k-man:

sphery, ok, thanks for the pointers

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sphery:

wagnerrp: you mean a computer can multitask, now? that's high tech!

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wagnerrp:

sphery: of course! one task per virtual machine!

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snsumner:

Your point is noted.

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mattwj2002:

that was introduced in what windows?

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snsumner:

Personally I perfer Deskview

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mattwj2002:

and early linux

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mattwj2002:

:P

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k-man:

sphery, is running with mysql 5.5 fine?

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sphery:

I actually did some multitasking in Windows/386 v2.11

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mattwj2002:

:P

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wagnerrp:

multitasking? like one of the timeshare machines back in the 60s

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snsumner:

Deskview was great back in the days of DOS

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sphery:

(only worked with the built-in Windows apps--none of my other apps)

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sphery:

so I ran notepad and paint at the same time... it was sweet :)

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snsumner:

OS/2 3.0 without the desktop was cool too

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sphery:

(iirc, they had different names back then, though)

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mattwj2002:

guys

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mattwj2002:

my mythtv box is jacked!

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sphery:

ooh, and seems I was using virtualization! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows/386#Windows.2F386 "Windows/386 was much more advanced than its predecessor. It introduced a protected mode kernel, above which the GUI and applications run as a virtual 8086 mode task. It allowed several MS-DOS programs to run in parallel in "virtual 8086" CPU mode, rather than always suspending background applications."

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mattwj2002:

I have two tuners and the same problem

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snsumner:

yeah deskview came out when the 80386 came out.

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** sphery imagines some guy driving up next to your mythtv box, pulling a gun and saying, "Everybody out!" as he steals the box **

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mattwj2002:

lol

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mattwj2002:

no

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mattwj2002:

I have two tuners with the same behavior

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snsumner:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DESQview

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snsumner:

Made by QuarterDeck

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mattwj2002:

I have an original HDHomeRun (the dual tuner model) and the WinTV box

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mattwj2002:

they both have the same issue

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mattwj2002:

I uninstalled the HDhomerun and installed the wintv box

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saintdev:

is there any way to get the icon downloader in mythtv-setup (or channel_icons.pl script) to use the hires lyngsat channel logos?

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sphery:

mattwj2002: which is the issue?

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mattwj2002:

on mythtv.....the problem is on boxes one of the tuners doesn't tune all channels.....I get a buffer problem

[01:50:38]

mattwj2002:

in both cases!

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mattwj2002:

it is jacked!

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styelz:

me too

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styelz:

i figure it was bad signal

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mattwj2002:

nope

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mattwj2002:

not the case in mine

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styelz:

cant get ch7, or abc2, rest are fine

[01:53:12]

mattwj2002:

two seperate tuners one of which use the same input

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mattwj2002:

yeah

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mattwj2002:

I am screwed

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mattwj2002:

:(

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wagnerrp:

mattwj2002: what version of mythtv are you using?

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wagnerrp:

specific version

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mattwj2002:

0.24.20101129–1

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mattwj2002:

v0.24-243-g9ba3ece

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wagnerrp:

thats the ABI version, what revision?>

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wagnerrp:

243... should be new enough its not what im thinking of

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mattwj2002:

ok

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wagnerrp:

sphery: regarding http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /321260.html

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wagnerrp:

do you have any plans for the logger to clean up after itself?

[02:08:05]

wagnerrp:

or should i add something in cron to the ebuilds?

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sphery:

I really don't want mythtv to clean up log files

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mattwj2002:

hey guys

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sphery:

I especially don't want settings or command-line args where users get to say how long to keep files of each type or whatever

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mattwj2002:

I didn't tell you something

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mattwj2002:

I bought a 32 inch tv today

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mattwj2002:

:D

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mattwj2002:

LCD

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mattwj2002:

my first LCD TV

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wagnerrp:

sphery: so external cron? or any better solution?

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styelz:

mattwj2002: mines bigger than yours :P

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mattwj2002:

it isn't size that matters.....it is how you use it

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mattwj2002:

:P

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styelz:

true

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wagnerrp:

or... does the wildcard in logrotate handle everything under that stanza as part of the same logger

[02:15:07]

wagnerrp:

meaning if you define a maximum of 8 files, it will only keep 8 of all that fall under that wildcard

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mattwj2002:

it isn't a real fancy TV

[02:15:24]

mattwj2002:

http://amzn.com/B0057R3JCW

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mattwj2002:

I had a couple extra bucks from my birthday

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sphery:

wagnerrp: it looks to me like a script that deletes all files (making sure to leave at least one) that are older than X days for each app would be best

[02:15:52]

mattwj2002:

this seemed like a descent investment

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sphery:

and then just have a cron job call that script

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sphery:

script could be put on the wiki, too :)

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sphery:

I have some rough rotating code (using the date in the filename) in the backup script (but it's perl), but I'm sure you could come up with something better in Python or whatever

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mattwj2002:

this is what I really like

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mattwj2002:

Connections Connector Type: 2 x HDMI ( 19 pin HDMI Type A ) ¦ 1 x VGA input ( 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) ) ¦ 1 x audio line-in ( mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm ) ¦ 1 x component video input ( RCA phono x 3 ) ¦ 1 x audio line-in ( RCA phono x 2 ) ¦ 1 x composite video input ( RCA phono ) ¦ 1 x headphones ( mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm ) ¦ 1 x audio line-in ( RCA phono x 2 )

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wagnerrp:

yeah, i dont like the blind 'find' that someone already put on the wiki

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sphery:

wagnerrp: if you don't want to work on it, though, let me know (and remind me what a log filename looks like since I'll be using fake files) and I can rip that part out of the backup script and tailor it for logs

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wagnerrp:

since it wont handle the compressed files, and should you not rotate, you will lose your backend logging after 6 days

[02:18:15]

wagnerrp:

nah, ill write something up

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wagnerrp:

stuff it in programs/scripts

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sphery:

yeah, the code I have in the backup script deletes all but 5 files... I could modify it to delete all files older than X days (with different X for each app), while making sure to leave at least Y files (where Y >= 1)

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wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: and wrong english too?

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sphery:

anyway, sorry that this is (once again) falling to you

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wagnerrp:

ill leave this bindings independent... just need some kind of python

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sphery:

I'd be happy to hack something together, then you could make it pythonic (remove all my c-isms)

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp: does what are wrong with at?

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oakman:

what filesystem does mythtv use

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wagnerrp:

whatever you want it to

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oakman:

i can use NTFS?

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wagnerrp:

we would prefer you didnt

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oakman:

or even exFAT

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wagnerrp:

logic would say you use a filesystem that follows POSIX standards

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oakman:

you just said whateer you want to

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wagnerrp:

you can you NTFS, because mythtv just accesses the mounted filesystem

[02:24:51]

wagnerrp:

it does not manage disks, it is not an operating system

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wagnerrp:

it will use whatever you feed it

[02:25:08]

wagnerrp:

but clearly some choices are less absurd than others

[02:25:33]

wagnerrp:

any filesystem your distro is trying to push you towards will likely be acceptable

[02:26:06]

wagnerrp:

and if you find one that tries to get you to format your disks as ntfs or fat, then you should abandon them for one with more sense

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wagnerrp:

standard choices for linux would be ext4, xfs, and jfs

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wagnerrp:

standard for freebsd would be ufs2 and zfs

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wagnerrp:

standard for osx would be... hpfs?

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sphery:

heh, that response to the log cleanup question that recommended find linked to the diff view of the wiki page

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iamlindoro!~iamlindor@mythtv/developer/iamlindoro changes topic to Welcome to the official MythTV user-to-user support channel | If you are seeking help with software other than MythTV, we cannot help you | http://mythtv.org/ | Stable release: 0.24 | FAQ http://mythtv.org/wiki/IRC | Wiki http://mythtv.org/wiki/ | Use http://mythtv.pastebin.com | US/Canada Listings: http://schedulesdirect.org/ | Piracy will not be tolerated

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sphery:

even more interesting is the fact that some guy named sphery created the web page, and, yet, I have no recollection of that page

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** sphery must be getting old **

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wagnerrp:

it was the other sphery, the evil one

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wagnerrp:

but dont worry, we killed him

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wagnerrp:

by the way, did you know "gullible" is written on your ceiling?

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iamlindoro:

No it's not, I just... heyyyyyy

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sphery:

hehe

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** wagnerrp suggests iamlindoro do a bit of searching **

[02:32:17]

iamlindoro:

No, I checked, it's not.. heyyyyyy

[02:36:11]

iamlindoro:

This is weird, I have a recording from Fox HD that I could swear is interlaced

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wagnerrp:

maybe they had an interlaced source?

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sphery:

perhaps it was interlaced, but they upscaled it and didn't deinterlace?

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sphery:

I've seen that type of thing before

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iamlindoro:

It's an HD source, but I suppose there's a chance it was a 1080i source that got poorly deinterlaced and downscaled

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saintdev:

maybe it's hard telecined?

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wagnerrp:

sphery: amusing... he bitches on a ticket to get attention

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wagnerrp:

when he does get attention, he never responds with the requested information

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sphery:

yeah, I was completely befuddled by his decision to reply to our posts while completely ignoring our requests for info that's necessary to help him fix it

[02:55:43]

sphery:

especially after the response to the closed ticket

[02:56:08]

sphery:

maybe I should make a comment on the ticket, "Well, I tried to help you on the list, but you never responded..."

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k-man:

which email is this?

[02:59:31]

wagnerrp:

something complaining about firewire capture

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wagnerrp:

i dont recall what i thought the problem was

[02:59:45]

sphery:

where the guy almost definitely has a broken storage group config

[02:59:48]

wagnerrp:

but i asked for a copy of his storage groups table

[03:00:02]

sphery:

it's trying to write his files to root

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sphery:

like /

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wagnerrp:

ah, right

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wagnerrp:

sphery: ok, written

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wagnerrp:

it groups together all rotated copies of a log

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wagnerrp:

and then keeps the last <n> instances of each application, and everything less then <n> days old

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wagnerrp:

defaults to 5 instances, and 7 days

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wagnerrp:

both adjustable on the command line, as is the base path

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styelz:

hi, i am getting lots of errors in mythbackend.log , i tihnk its mythcomflag. http://pastie.org/2572099

[04:31:43]

styelz:

it's taking aaages to run

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wagnerrp:

all of six seconds it would seem

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styelz:

nah thats a snippet

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styelz:

can i turn the logging down some how

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styelz:

dont really care about it

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wagnerrp:

default logging should be general,important

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wagnerrp:

since those are being logged, theyre considered to be in that group... even though they really shouldnt be

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wagnerrp:

excess verbose logging

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styelz:

hdd is goin nuts

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wagnerrp:

however if you change logging to something else, youre going to be missing stuff that is useful

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styelz:

ok

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styelz:

guess i can turn comflag off

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wagnerrp:

the hard drive should be active, but it shouldnt be 'goin nuts'

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iamlindoro:

They are absolutely essential logs

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styelz:

just with all the loggin

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wagnerrp:

those are rather minor asynchronous text writes to a log file

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iamlindoro:

they mean "This signal is horribly, horribly broken. Please, someone fix me."

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styelz:

ok

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iamlindoro:

No, they're decode errors from libavcodec

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wagnerrp:

your recording is going to be several orders of magnitude more intensive

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styelz:

yah, need a new arial i think

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wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: yeah, but the "this signal is horribly horribly broken" should come during recording

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wagnerrp:

mythcommflag should either be quiet about it, or give up

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iamlindoro:

why? We don't decode during recording

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styelz:

i can play the recording fine, no glitches

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wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: i would expect those errors to come from incomplete reconstruction due to bad signal

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iamlindoro:

That's just a testament to the library's ability to use FEC

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wagnerrp:

which the card should be reporting during recording

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styelz:

so i cant change the -V 3 on commflag ?

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wagnerrp:

-V 3?

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iamlindoro:

recorders don't do any checking of signal

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wagnerrp:

'-V' is some binary representation of the 'important,general' string

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iamlindoro:

perhaps you meant, "It'd sure be nice if they did, I guess I'll get to work on that " ;)

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wagnerrp:

i thought i recalled seeing such errors in the past, as the backend was pulling out the seektable

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styelz:

fied it

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styelz:

specifying command args on the mythtv-setup overrides them, so i put mythcommflag -j 332 -V 1 and its much better

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styelz:

hope thats ok

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wagnerrp:

you put that whole string in as the command for mythcommflag?

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styelz:

yea

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wagnerrp:

no thats not ok

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styelz:

oh

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wagnerrp:

it will try to run job 332 each and ever time you run mythcommflag

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styelz:

ah

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styelz:

bummer

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wagnerrp:

meaning it will continue to run commercial detection on the same recording, until such a time as you delete the recording, after which it will start throwing up an error and quitting

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styelz:

i will make a script and get it to run that and pass on the args then

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wagnerrp:

or, you could read some documentation on the option before going off half cocked... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Jobs

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styelz:

thanks

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styelz:

works good

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styelz:

mythcommflag -j %JOBID% -V 1

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wagnerrp:

much better

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lwizardl:

hello

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styelz:

actually, i tihnk -V 1 is all errors

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styelz:

-V 3 is important

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styelz:

?

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wagnerrp:

i dont know off hand

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styelz:

seems to be

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wagnerrp:

ive never bothered to pass the bitwise values

[04:56:09]

wagnerrp:

its a bitwise operator

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wagnerrp:

3 is 1 and 2

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styelz:

ok

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wagnerrp:

so one of them means 'important', one of them means 'general'

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wagnerrp:

which is which, i cant say

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styelz:

ah, so 1 is most

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wagnerrp:

no, 'most' is a compound value containing multiple bitwise values

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styelz:

i dunno

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styelz:

gues id need to read the source to find out

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styelz:

il still with the -v help syntax

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styelz:

stick

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: aren't we trying to empty out contrib?

[05:04:53]

Beirdo:

Oh, and my vacation's over... back to work tomorrow :)

[05:04:58]

lwizardl:

in the current builds of mythtv is there support for web video streams ? not exactly like the youtube, but more like ABC, Fox, Revision3, etc

[05:05:07]

wagnerrp:

its either there, or i add a 'utility' folder to programs/scripts

[05:05:14]

Beirdo:

hehe

[05:05:18]

Beirdo:

fair enough

[05:05:25]

wagnerrp:

its certainly something i want in the code

[05:05:33]

wagnerrp:

even if the logger doesnt internally do it

[05:05:46]

[R]:

lwizardl: mythnetvision

[05:06:03]

wagnerrp:

i see it as a vital capability considering the logger now creates all these unmanageable files

[05:06:04]

Beirdo:

having something to keep it from getting outta hand is likely not a bad plan

[05:07:00]

lwizardl:

[R], thanks I was looking at a sorta of guide to get the bbc iplayer to work but seems that was no longer working.

[05:07:23]

wagnerrp:

lwizardl: thats because you live in michigan

[05:08:12]

lwizardl:

wagnerrp, yeah i know do to the region streaming blocks they use. Have been looking at maybe using tor and see if that would correct that :)

[05:08:56]

Beirdo:

lwizardl: we don't condone the bypassing of DRM and region-control schemes

[05:09:09]

wagnerrp:

so you want to bypass their terms of service and region lockout by pumping all sorts of data through several other people's personal internet connection?

[05:09:10]

lwizardl:

Beirdo, I know

[05:09:17]

wagnerrp:

that is _not_ what TOR is supposed to be used for

[05:09:42]

[R]:

what? i thought tor was so criminials could commit crimes w/o getting caught

[05:09:44]

lwizardl:

wagnerrp, i know I was just looking to see if that would work or not

[05:12:50]

Beirdo:

hmmm, the filter_design in scipy is being a PITA

[05:23:22]

saintdev:

what's the easiest way to use hires lyngsat channel icons instead of the standard icons?

[05:26:56]

[R]:

download them manually

[05:27:51]

saintdev:

that's going to suck for more than 200 channels :/

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[R]:

well if you dont like what myth got

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[R]:

the only optino is to manually do it...

[05:32:39]

saintdev:

well, that's what i was wondering, if there was a way to do it with myth.

[05:33:10]

[R]:

myth downlaods what its going to download

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k-man:

sphery, are you still awake?

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saintdev:

so there's no way to modify channel_icons.pl or using iconmap.xml

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quicksilver:

skd5aner: thanks

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k-man:

here is a strange one – if I launch mythbackend with --setverbose it quits with: Unable to connect to backend, verbose mask unchanged but if I run it without that option, it detects that there is no db yet and then says "2011-09–22 15:49:37.378870 C Upgrading to MythTV schema version 1280" but seems to hang at that point

[05:50:37]

Beirdo:

why is that strange?

[05:51:00]

k-man:

why would --setverbose change how it runs?

[05:51:08]

wagnerrp:

it hasnt

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Beirdo:

because --setverbose says to connect to the already running backend and set ITS verbosity

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k-man:

ooh...

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k-man:

thanks :)

[05:52:14]

Beirdo:

no problemo

[05:52:57]

k-man:

Beirdo, so -v database is sufficient?

[05:53:20]

k-man:

or so I need -l all as well?

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wagnerrp:

try '-l debug'

[05:54:00]

Beirdo:

-l?

[05:54:07]

Beirdo:

-l is logfile

[05:54:38]

wagnerrp:

whats loglevel?

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Beirdo:

-v debug or -v all might be what yer looking for

[05:54:52]

Beirdo:

aka --verbose

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wagnerrp:

its '-v database'

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k-man:

so how long do you think it should talk after seeing :2011-09–22 15:54:49.937259 C Upgrading to MythTV schema version 1280

[05:55:30]

k-man:

because I think its getting stuck there.

[05:56:25]

Beirdo:

dunno, is mysql running?

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Beirdo:

this is the backend, correct?

[05:56:51]

wagnerrp:

master backend

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Beirdo:

preferrably :)

[05:57:31]

Beirdo:

fewer chances of odd borkage that way

[05:59:32]

wagnerrp:

i tried updating my gentoo boxes earlier

[05:59:43]

wagnerrp:

they wanted to upgrade gcc, and stalled about halfway through

[05:59:55]

wagnerrp:

only thing i can think of is it ran out of memory, and then out of swap

[06:00:04]

wagnerrp:

and for some reason the OOM killed the wrong thing

[06:00:11]

wagnerrp:

because i couldnt log in

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wagnerrp:

or terminate the build with 'ctrl-c'

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Beirdo:

eek

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Beirdo:

that's sucky

[06:00:49]

wagnerrp:

so a reboot, fsck, and hour of wasted compiling later... lets see if i can reproduce it

[06:02:19]

wagnerrp:

sphery: feel free to move that script into mythtv/programs/scripts, or somewhere out of contrib of your choice

[06:02:39]

wagnerrp:

i would just prefer to keep it somewhere in the tree, so i can get at it with the gentoo installer without having to package it internally

[06:03:51]

Beirdo:

good stuff, BTW

[06:04:11]

Beirdo:

now why is a band-pass filter blowing up, I wonder?

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k-man:

yes its a test system I am setting up, master backend (no slaves) installing into a brand new db

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k-man:

it's still stuck on that command

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wagnerrp:

hahaha... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux . . . thtv-881633/

[06:14:59]

wagnerrp:

"i know my code sucks but i have no desire for self improvement so don't try to tell me how i could be doing things better"

[06:15:34]

k-man:

hehe

[06:15:44]

Beirdo:

yeah, so let's post on a QUESTION forum :)

[06:15:55]

Beirdo:

crazy people

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[R]:

wtf kind of moron puts 2 commands to mysql into a file that just gets redirected into mysql?

[06:16:40]

Beirdo:

one who can't follow directions

[06:16:54]

wagnerrp:

one who seems to refuse to follow directions

[06:17:08]

wagnerrp:

hes edgy man... way out there...

[06:17:27]

wagnerrp:

he wont bow to your tyranny of 'proper design'

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[R]:

lol

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[R]:

I said that because last time that I posted code someone told that all of my code was wrong and start to tell what I was doing wrong.

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[R]:

lol

[06:18:46]

dekarl:

This script is some hacky replacement for recording to a sensible SG directory and then symlinking the recording to his Samba share with a pretty name?

[06:19:31]

wagnerrp:

pretty-ish

[06:19:42]

wagnerrp:

as opposed to just spending 30 seconds to ask someone why mythlink isnt working

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[R]:

but he odnset want a link

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[R]:

he wants a duplicated waste of space!

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wagnerrp:

and then posted it to another forum for an example on how to transcode files such that someone can play them on their network DVD player

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** dekarl chalks it up to the NIH and IMadeIt (#Wrote by Zach Underwood on 5-19–2011, yeah) syndrome! **

[06:22:54]

laga_:

national institute for health?

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dekarl:

Not Invented Here

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laga_:

ah

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wagnerrp:

i dont mind that people go off and try to write their own code, its wonderful that they make an effort (as misguided as it may be)

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k-man:

so any idea how I could diagnose why mythbackend is getting stuck on "Upgrading to MythTV schema version 1280"?

[06:24:32]

wagnerrp:

but to staunchly refuse advice from people who know better?

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laga_:

a great way to learn stuff

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xris:

k-man: try an interactive session like mythtv-setup instead of mythbackend

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dekarl:

wagnerrp: but putting it out in the public and then refusing to listen to replies is like posting "I'm looking for work" on facebook and shouting at people who come around with job opportunities...

[06:26:39]

k-man:

xris, oh, that worked. thanks

[06:26:44]

k-man:

or at least – seems to have worked

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xris:

k-man: yeah, it's an oddity about needing human confirmation to do the update. theoretically a frontend or something like it should prompt you

[06:34:37]

k-man:

xris, I see – well thanks, got me past that bit

[06:35:22]

k-man:

it seems as though when I go into a menu and then out again, all keyboard input stops working

[06:35:32]

k-man:

but I can click around with a mouse

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k-man:

any ideas how I might diagnose that one?

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justinh:

well, since going back to mythtv from source my backend seems much more responsive. the jury is still out on whether I'll need to move to master

[06:46:49]

justinh:

the last few nights before I got rid of the packages playing a recording was taking a while, and exiting back to the PBB would take a few seconds, even after restarting the BE because it'd deadlocked. Now it's spiffy fast again

[06:50:51]

justinh:

now we all know it shouldn't necessarily be the case, but it seems to be. I mean unless mythbuntu are building their packages with crazy compilation options or something... but I doubt that

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nutron:

is it worth my while to get a crystal hd?

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justinh:

oo, I guess a good comparison would be to try a time search & see how long it takes

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justinh:

nutron: for mythtv? probably not

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nutron:

justinh: k

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nutron:

you're not just saying that so that I save my money right? =)

[06:52:58]

justinh:

not with the current state of play with the linux driver, where as I understand things as impasse has been reached where broadcom aren't being much help.. I could be wrong though

[06:55:45]

nutron:

aye, understood and thanks... now to find a single slot passively cooled nvidia card with vdpau cap...

[06:56:01]

** nutron loves to waste his time searching for the impossible **

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justinh:

should be plenty of those around

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nutron:

uhh really?

[06:56:23]

justinh:

I think only the $$$ cards take up 2 slots these days

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nutron:

passive is near to impossible in single slot low-pro...

[06:56:58]

nutron:

oh I see I forgot to mention low-pro

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nutron:

=/

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justinh:

heheheheh

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justinh:

ah, now there you likely *are* wanting the moon on a stick

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nutron:

lol!

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justinh:

you can get a low profile gt210... think that'll do everything bar advanced 2x temporal deinterlacing

[06:58:54]

justinh:

so if those can be had... you can likely get a better one

[06:59:55]

justinh:

yeah gt220, gt240, gt520... see if those are available low-profile

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nutron:

not single slot passive though, unless there are miracle cards available that I can't source.. heh.. how retarded though, my little foxconn book barebone thingy has a 16x slot, but it's the last in the pile, single slot size, right beside the psu

[07:00:45]

** nutron slaps newegg's search feature like a dirty .. donkey **

[07:01:18]

justinh:

IIRC the fans are pretty quiet these days.. and you've got to get rid of the heat somehow

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justinh:

you could always try heat-piping :-D

[07:03:24]

nutron:

:o oh-whatever-do-you-mean?

[07:03:42]

justinh:

if you can live without advanced 2x deinterlacing of HD material you might be able to track down a passive LP GT210 easily

[07:04:10]

nutron:

aye, maybe.

[07:04:28]

justinh:

heat piping? basically a thermal block which goes on in place of a heatsink.. and er.. a pipe which leads to a radiator elsewhere

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nutron:

ahh, I know, just never thought it an option. Is there a kit avail with heat pipes etc?

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justinh:

yeah plenty of aftermarket ones are available

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nutron:

oh, that's news to me... what do I google?

[07:06:16]

justinh:

gpu heatpipe kit perhaps?

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nutron:

danke

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justinh:

or 'gpu heatpipe cooler'

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justinh:

etc etc etc

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justinh:

here you go.. gt520 LP.. passive http://uk.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Seri . . . ecifications .. and it appears to be one slot wide

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justinh:

so they are made.. you just have to find one in stock somewhere :D

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nutron:

dual slot

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nutron:

That last image is extremely conniving

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justinh:

maybe 2 slots are needed to get all the connectors on but the card itself seems to be 1 slot wide

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nutron:

the heatsink is definitely wider than 1 slot =/

[07:15:48]

** nutron is trying to prove it, hold on **

[07:16:20]

justinh:

surely the normal bracket would be wider were that the case

[07:16:57]

nutron:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121443

[07:17:30]

justinh:

oof

[07:17:35]

justinh:

that was sly

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nutron:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121438

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nutron:

sorry, that's the right one

[07:18:27]

AndyCap:

You cannot change the laws of physics Jim.

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justinh:

maybe it's time to bin the stupid box you've got yourself then :D

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nutron:

I think I actually have 1.5 slots available for space, but I can't ever find the actual widths online.

[07:18:59]

nutron:

lol, just bought it new ...

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justinh:

nutron: some UK sites I use actually say how wide cards are

[07:19:12]

justinh:

and usually the bracket gives it away

[07:19:36]

nutron:

I think I'll go with a fan... just hate relying on cheap chinese pieces that break easily...

[07:19:56]

justinh:

so buy a half decent make then :)

[07:20:04]

Beirdo:

hahah

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Beirdo:

they are all cheap chinese pieces

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justinh:

and you can always buy after-market fans

[07:20:21]

Beirdo:

even the expensive ones

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nutron:

not the "superspecialvendorlockinfans"

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justinh:

and not all chinese fans are cheap

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Beirdo:

nutron: even those

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Beirdo:

you'd be hard pressed to find stuff NOT made in China these days

[07:21:30]

justinh:

we buy xinruilian stuff for the crap we make. they're pretty good

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nutron:

I'm sayin', the graphics card manufacturers aren't gonna go all out and stick on a dual ball on a gt210

[07:21:51]

justinh:

anyway can't nvidia-settings control fan speed & such these days?

[07:22:00]

nutron:

Beirdo: true true

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justinh:

how much does video decoding tax a gpu anyway?

[07:22:30]

Beirdo:

now, preferrably not the recycled lead-filled toys...

[07:23:19]

nutron:

on some cards yep, not all, I have no idea which do and don't, and I don't know how to join that club... google lies to me sometimes

[07:23:22]

justinh:

mmmmm. yummy lead

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** nutron puts on his tin hat **

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justinh:

you should be wearing your tin hat anyway. you're on IRC

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justinh:

I've got mine on 24/7 to stop the MPAA mind control beams

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nutron:

well.. all i've got is crappy on-board intel graphics... so.. a lot?

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nutron:

lol!

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justinh:

nah... intel video onboard can't really *do* video decoding

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nutron:

right..

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justinh:

there's likely the newer stuff which 'can' but let's disregard that coz it'll end up being as crappy as intel opengl is

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nutron:

so my core 2 has to step up to the plate...

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justinh:

anyway if you need more case room you could always go picopsu or whatever

[07:25:27]

justinh:

there's more than 1 way to crack a nut ;)

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nutron:

oh crap it's 00:30 and I haven't gone home yet...

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nutron:

bah, I gotta bail, thanks for the banter g'nite

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justinh:

still at work? lol

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styelz:

just made an arial out of a coffee can, peice of coat hanger and some foil

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styelz:

better than the $50 one i bought

[08:37:08]

styelz:

i mean an antenna i suppose

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styelz:

what a spin out

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styelz:

similar to this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRS4GMGJr7M

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justinh:

cantenna?

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justinh:

yup. a cantenna :-)

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justinh:

I wouldn't stick anything home-made on my roof

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justinh:

I prefer my aerials to not look like ass

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styelz:

hehe

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justinh:

I thought cantennas had a very narrow bandwidth anyway, and thus wouldn't be much use for wideband use

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styelz:

works on every chan. im impressed

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styelz:

i used a smaller can

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justinh:

UK TV goes from like 400Mhz to 800Mhz

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justinh:

difficult to cover with a cantenna

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styelz:

ah ok

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justinh:

whee PickTV are showing re-runs of Futurama

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grimeton:

moin

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justinh:

"when I heard REM had split up I fainted & landed face down in my curry. That's me in the korma"

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sid3windr:

lol

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mattwj2002:

hi all

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mattwj2002:

well I found something really cool I thought I would share with you!

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mattwj2002:

http://support.boxee.tv/entries/487036-mythbuntu

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mattwj2002:

:D

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mattwj2002:

you can use a boxee box to play all your recorded mythtv videos....I just wonder if it has enough horsepower to play them.....hmmm

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justinh:

you can also use a boxee box to sit next to your TV looking stupid

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sid3windr:

you mean the box, or yourself? :P

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justinh:

with its awful aesthetic

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justinh:

it's probably the worst looking piece of kit since the Commodore PET

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justinh:

they could sell many more boxee boxes, if only they weren't so 'brave'

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mattwj2002:

because they are so "brave" is why I like them

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mattwj2002:

:)

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justinh:

they look like suck :)

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justinh:

put them in the ugly box(ee) alongside oval TV screens

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mattwj2002:

:P

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sid3windr:

ugleeboxee

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justinh:

LOL.. from an Amazon review: "It even plays full HD movies i.e 9GB movie files"

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justinh:

yeah.. full HD... a whole movie in 9GB. ROFLMAO

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mattwj2002:

lol

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mattwj2002:

how are you justinh

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mattwj2002:

?

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mattwj2002:

I haven't talked to you in a while

[10:23:04]

justinh:

200 quid is a lot of cash for that thing anyway

[10:23:14]

mattwj2002:

that is usd

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justinh:

yeah.. 200 quid. Like I said

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mattwj2002:

is it 200 quid in the UK?

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justinh:

tech stuff, $1 = £1

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justinh:

ish

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mattwj2002:

that sucks

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justinh:

yup

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mattwj2002:

I suppose things like VAT don't help

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justinh:

or I'd already be a mac user

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justinh:

vat is still only 20%

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mattwj2002:

or is that without vat?

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mattwj2002:

oh really? that isn't too bad

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mattwj2002:

we pay close to 7% in sales tax here

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justinh:

even when the rate is better we still get a bad deal

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mattwj2002:

and have nothing but debt to show for it!

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mattwj2002:

:)

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mattwj2002:

sorry no politics

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justinh:

hmm maybe the bad deal is because of import duty + VAT...

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justinh:

import duty must be ridiculous

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mattwj2002:

really

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mattwj2002:

how much?

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justinh:

whoah laptops & desktops have no duty

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justinh:

DVD players/recorders.. 15% duty then 20% VAT on top

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justinh:

14% on monitors too.. but if they only take analogue signals.. 0%

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justinh:

haha they say 'only take signals from a computer (15 pin VGA) 0%' The bastards

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justinh:

like only computers output VGA

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mattwj2002:

crazy

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mattwj2002:

what is this I hear about televisions and a yearly tax?

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justinh:

this 'tax' pays for advert free television over about 6 channels

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justinh:

and very high quality programming compared to the junk the other channels make

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justinh:

oh, and radio

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justinh:

and technical developments

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sid3windr:

:)

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quicksilver:

and a decent news website and online TV-catchup service

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sid3windr:

they dropped that tax in .be since many years

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sid3windr:

and we still have "advert free" television ;)

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sid3windr:

(quotes required)

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justinh:

how's your advert riddled crappy teevee then?

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justinh:

oh yeah from all the unsecured mythweb servers I've seen you lot seem to import a hell of a lot of our dross

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justinh:

emmerdale, eastenders...

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sid3windr:

advert riddled crappy tv is crappy by definition ;)

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sid3windr:

emmerdale, eastenders?

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justinh:

yeah

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sid3windr:

I think you've been watching the wrong mythweb servers

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sid3windr:

neither of them is broadcast in .be ;)

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justinh:

heh maybe it was finland then

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mattwj2002:

yeah in the UK I hear you have a lot less commericals than the US

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sid3windr:

lol mattwj2002

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mattwj2002:

<- is from the US

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mattwj2002:

:P

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sid3windr:

US has programming in between the commercials

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mattwj2002:

lol indeed

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justinh:

and even on the BBC channels the 'adverts' (i.e. trailers) have a use...

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mattwj2002:

our commericals are soooo stupid too

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mattwj2002:

they are written for retards

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mattwj2002:

or maybe I should say by retards

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mattwj2002:

:)

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justinh:

I was on a work placement in a radio station once. their copywriters also did TV ads

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mattwj2002:

yeah but probably not in the US

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justinh:

they're very good at what they do, which is to say I hated their guts

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mattwj2002:

some of these commericals are so stupid they are insulting

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justinh:

if an ad gets under your skin it HAS WORKED

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mattwj2002:

you are probably right

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justinh:

but if it gets under your skin but you can't remember what the product was... it's failed. LOL

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mattwj2002:

most of them!

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mattwj2002:

:P

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justinh:

incredible arm-flailing tube man

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justinh:

incredible arm-flailing tube man!

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mattwj2002:

that pissed me off....what was that

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justinh:

incredible arm-flailing tube man!!!!

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justinh:

family guy

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mattwj2002:

hehe

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justinh:

taking off a lot of locally programmed US TV ads I'm guessing

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mattwj2002:

I do like the all state commericals

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stuartm:

I like to think that I've never bought anything as the result of a TV ad, at least not as an adult, but it's probably not true :(

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mattwj2002:

have you guys seen those?

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justinh:

stuartm: oh I dunno...

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justinh:

the new gillette ads I've seen.. if some guy came running into the room where I was shaving & shouted "wooo!" I'd probably twat him

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stuartm:

to put it another way, I've never been consciously influenced by an advert

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mattwj2002:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R8vG9NJQFY

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mattwj2002:

they are funny

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justinh:

Friends funny or ... ?

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justinh:

or funny funny? lol

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mattwj2002:

funny funny

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mattwj2002:

:)

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stuartm:

I don't catch many ads these days, but the ones I find most irritating are the obviously re-dubbed ads for bathroom products and the like, the company is so cheap that they've filmed one advert in German/Italian/French and then dubbed over it for other markets

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mattwj2002:

LMAO funny

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mattwj2002:

don't have that problem in the US thank god

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justinh:

heh

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justinh:

CILLIT BANG!

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justinh:

Febreze!

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justinh:

Spot the CGI overlay on the product container.. as bad as the dubbing

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mattwj2002:

:P

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justinh:

god, if only we all spoke the same language & had the same currency

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justinh:

"one day, damnit" – CEO, Procter & Gamble

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mattwj2002:

O_O

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mattwj2002:

what the hell?

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mattwj2002:

really?

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justinh:

no, I was reaching.. but it's not that far a stretch

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justinh:

one world, one market (TM)

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mattwj2002:

I know there has been a lot of talk about that

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mattwj2002:

and frankly it scares the shit out of me

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mattwj2002:

anyways

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stuartm:

you forgot, "one government"

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justinh:

meh. life's too short to worry about stuff like that

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mattwj2002:

I have to get ready for work

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mattwj2002:

bbiab

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justinh:

time to go buy lunchies :)

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k-man:

bye justinh

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k-man:

what is the sysroot location (in the mythplugincs configure)

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justinh:

heh that new mythweb module thingy.. mythmobile.. requires you to disable APC Slam Defense. Hrm

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justinh:

and just who the hell are nowsci.com anyway?

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justinh:

also, not open source. BOOO

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justinh:

oh wait.. they just say 'please do not distribute elsewhere' but there doesn't appear to be any licencing information in the files hosted. HA

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justinh:

ah, and they also seem to be the author of the original trailer scraping download/XML mangling bash script. C***

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justinh:

nope. not taking mythmobile for a spin. I don't trust it, based on this Ben bloke's pedigree

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justinh:

sigh. we're going to be having a go at making our own multi-megapixel camera. getting staff paid minimum wage to assemble the lens blocks etc to a high degree of accuracy.. er... NO

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justinh:

wanna new camera? buy in somebody's expertly assembled camera/lens block, wire up to your own tech.. off you go. Not the other thing

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justinh:

Sony et al have robots to assemble their optical assys to great accuracy in mass production. somehow I doubt yer $4 an hour production line droid is going to make a good job of it

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justinh:

somebody needs to kill our CEO

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MMlosh:

you have a CEO?

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justinh:

hahaha guy from our purchasing dept. had Sony in this morning. 1080P30 camera block with integrated 24x zoom lens.. under a hundred quids

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MMlosh:

justinh, oh.. I came because I have mythtv issues.. the upcomming recordings are empty.. it's not recording at all

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MMlosh:

justinh, I did mysqlcheck (which said the DB is in crashed state) and mysqlrepair on the mythconverg database.. the issue seems to be resolved

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Korny1:

Anyone awake in here?

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justinh:

nope

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Korny1:

I'm just trying to figure out whats causing this http://pastebin.com/CqN2iC3d

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MMlosh:

Korny1, not in the useful way

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Korny1:

The file is fully accessible

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MMlosh:

even for user mythtv?

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justinh:

corrupt filesystem?

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justinh:

sharing over wireless?

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justinh:

/dev/null broken?

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Korny1:

stupid permissions I think hold on

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iamlindoro:

Remember permissions don't just apply to the directory in question, you have to be able to traverse to it too

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Korny1:

I really do wonder how they get changed sometimes

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Korny1:

Sigh stupidity +1 for me

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justinh:

last time I ever believe a user who swears certain info is true lol

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justinh:

iamlindoro: weird thing btw, since switching back to mythtv built myself the backend seems much snappier. Still waiting for a deadlock.. til the next shower of expletives ;)

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justinh:

next deadlock will make up my mind to move to master

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iamlindoro:

justinh: nice

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justinh:

I can't see how mythbuntu is doing anything much different to a default configure/compile – but maybe my libs/linker/something is a different version & that's the key

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justinh:

i.e. where I could have gone wrong is use a different base distro to the one the packages are built on.. but I dunno if anything is *that* particular

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FabriceMG:

iamlindoro: What is the procedure to make a "complet reset" for all metadata recordings? (themecache, database,.....)

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justinh:

rm -rf / **JOKE **

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FabriceMG:

justinh: -1

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FabriceMG:

for 0.25

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justinh:

rm -rf ~/.mythtv/themecache/ – or do it on individual dirs if you want (not much point)

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justinh:

and for clearing all metadata... on everything... not sure you can without manually meddling with the DB

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FabriceMG:

I want tested my script "allocine" but I not sure if the system is clean

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wagnerrp:

FabriceMG: for video content, as explained before, move your video content out of anywhere mythtv knows about, scan, move it back, scan again

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wagnerrp:

completely new video entries, with no trace of the original data left in the database

[15:08:53]

wagnerrp:

for recorded content, theres not really anything you can do

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wagnerrp:

but if it works for video, it should work well enough for recordings

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wagnerrp:

it may just need some tweaking here or there

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iamlindoro:

And of course, relies on proper guide data

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iamlindoro:

ie, if you are doing ugly scraping things that put title and subtitle together, or whatever, then nothing will ever work

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iamlindoro:

Only way to reset recording metadata would be to truncate table recordedartwork

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donEduardo_:

quick question: how can i access the title of a Video() object in python?

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wagnerrp:

.title ?

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wagnerrp:

or ['title']

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wagnerrp:

or getattr(obj, 'title')

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donEduardo_:

:) dont know. I plan to output a PDF video list. so I get all videos by videos = mvid.searchVideos() and then go through the single Video() objects. So how can i access the metadata then (like Title, subtitle and so on)?

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sdkovacs:

i asked this question a couple days ago but it wasnt too busy around the chat so noone answered:

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wagnerrp:

if you want all videos, then do Video.getAllEntries()

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wagnerrp:

the Video objects act as a dictionary

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sdkovacs:

In mythweb, the Upcoming Recordings page says it's recording 'The View' (don't ask) on 9/14/11. The View is not in the recording schedule and does not show up in recorded programs. There's no option to cancel the recording.

[15:22:37]

wagnerrp:

you can find out what keys they have with '.keys()'

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sdkovacs:

In backend status none of the tuners are recording

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iamlindoro:

sdkovacs: restart the backend

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wagnerrp:

each of those values can be accessed as a dictionary key like ['title']

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wagnerrp:

or as an attribute like .title

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wagnerrp:

sdkovacs: using xbmc?

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donEduardo_:

@wagnerrp: cool, TNX, i'll try!

[15:24:39]

sdkovacs:

restarted the backend, the upcoming recording is gone!

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donEduardo_:

+wagnerrp works! Made my day, thanks!

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sdkovacs:

wagnerrp: I do use xbmc, but upstairs and not connected to mythtv in any way

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sid3windr:

is that an extended version of wagnerrp ? ;>

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sdkovacs:

iamlindoro: thanks

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wagnerrp:

sdkovacs: just curious, xbmc has been known to leave tuners hanging after livetv sessions in the past

[15:25:46]

wagnerrp:

sid3windr?

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sid3windr:

wagnerrp: "+wagnerrp" :)

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iamlindoro:

sid3windr: Some IRC clients show voice as a +

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wagnerrp:

primarily text clients

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iamlindoro:

and then those users think it's part of the nick

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sid3windr:

most do

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sid3windr:

hehe

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sid3windr:

well

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sid3windr:

< donEduardo_> @wagnerrp:

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sid3windr:

status confusion! ;)

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wagnerrp:

at <me>, he was responding

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** sid3windr shuts up now **

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sid3windr:

yes

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sdkovacs:

wagnerrp: i have it running on an appletv mostly for hulu and daily show. the appletv wouldnt be able to handle the mpeg2 recordings so i have never tried to hook into the hdhomerun tuner

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Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o wagnerrp

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wagnerrp:

plus ive got one of those too

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Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : -o wagnerrp

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wagnerrp:

:)

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sid3windr:

:>

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sdkovacs:

ok, thanks for your help everyone.

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FabriceMG:

wagnerrp, mythmetadatalookup found and download artwork or mythmetadatalookup found and schedule the artwork download?

[16:48:52]

FabriceMG:

i have delete storaggroup banner, cover, fanart...

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wagnerrp:

why did you remove those storage groups?

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FabriceMG:

i have deleted in table recordedartwork all record

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FabriceMG:

i have make clear all fied inetref in recorded table

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FabriceMG:

launch mythmetadatalookup , and nothing in storagegroup covert, fanart, ....

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FabriceMG:

http://pastebin.com/bf9iqA2X

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wagnerrp:

is allocine just for movies?

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FabriceMG:

no, thetvdb script

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FabriceMG:

and tmdb

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wagnerrp:

i thought you were trying to debug your script

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wagnerrp:

tmdb and ttvdb do not behave well unless you are running a utf-8 language

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wagnerrp:

see the warning at the top of the log?

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FabriceMG:

I try to understand how it works before

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iamlindoro:

You're not running an artwork lookup job

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iamlindoro:

What command are you running?

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iamlindoro:

Your lookups are largely successful, and it's setting season and episode for tons of your stuff

[16:57:12]

iamlindoro:

But you're not telling it to download artwork

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iamlindoro:

You need to read the wiki page, and the help output

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FabriceMG:

i launch " mythmetadata" in console

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iamlindoro:

Then you have not read the instructions, at all

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iamlindoro:

The command you are running is doing exactly what it is supposed to, and is doing so successfully

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iamlindoro:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enhancing_Recordin . . . adata_Lookup

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iamlindoro:

You need to read that, carefully, and understand it

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iamlindoro:

Then you need to edit your recording rules as appropriate

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iamlindoro:

then you need to run the *correct* command to get artwork

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iamlindoro:

And *do not* just run the cheat sheet commands and expect it to work

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FabriceMG:

oki oki , I don't know this page !

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iamlindoro:

You're running master

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FabriceMG:

yep

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iamlindoro:

the page has been endlessly referenced in the commits

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iamlindoro:

which you are responsible for reading

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FabriceMG:

milles excuses , je n'ai pas trouver cette page en cherchant le fonctionnement

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iamlindoro:

vous êtes responsable de la lecture de la liste "commits" si vous voulez utiliser master

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iamlindoro:

oh snap

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FabriceMG:

thx iamlindoro, wagnerrp

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FabriceMG:

iamlindoro, good job for your wiki page, for information, mythbuntu theme don't have Metadata Options screen

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iamlindoro:

It does if you download the copy from the myththemes repository

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FabriceMG:

and now , it's work

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FabriceMG:

i have mythbuntu 25.1 theme

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iamlindoro:

Not every change changes the version

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iamlindoro:

The current mythbuntu theme from the myththemes git repository supports all the required screens

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iamlindoro:

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iamlindoro:

Straight from the theme, straight from the repos

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FabriceMG:

i have repos ppa mythbuntu, It's not the last?

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iamlindoro:

couldn't say

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iamlindoro:

I am not responsible for packages, just what's in git

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FabriceMG:

tgm4883 is the responsible :)

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iamlindoro:

FabriceMG: You could always check out the git myththemes repository and install it

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iamlindoro:

it's not difficult, you don't even need to compile

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iamlindoro:

Or you could use a theme which is fully updated for the functionality like Arclight

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iamlindoro:

(all the other core themes have been updated, they just haven't all been added to the UI theme downloader

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FabriceMG:

iamlindoro, for your test, did you have writed 1 script for clean artwork database ?

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iamlindoro:

No

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iamlindoro:

not when it's as simple as "truncate table recordedartwork;"

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FabriceMG:

and delete inetref field in redorded , no?

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iamlindoro:

yes, you'd need to clean the inetrefs and seasons and episodes too

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iamlindoro:

But since there has only ever been one set of scripts, it hasn't been necessary for me

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iamlindoro:

recorded, record, etc. would all need the intetrefs cleaned

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iamlindoro:

and season and episode

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FabriceMG:

oki

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iamlindoro:

As wagnerrp mentioned before, if they work in MythVideo, they'll work in mythmetadatalookup

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iamlindoro:

it's the exact same code

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iamlindoro:

the only reason it would not work for recordings would be poor guide data, but your guide data seems decent

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FabriceMG:

I Have 1 very good guide data

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FabriceMG:

80% of 288 recordings found, very good with thetvdb and tmdb

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FabriceMG:

strange, it downloads the fanarts of records that are deleted for a long time

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FabriceMG:

he use oldrecorded table?

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iamlindoro:

No

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iamlindoro:

It uses your recording rules and curent recordings

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iamlindoro:

If you are getting artwork downloaded, then some instance of that program is in those tables

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tgm4883:

whats the issue?

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iamlindoro:

He claims to have current mythbuntu ppa theme packages, but says they do not include additions to the themes I added some time ago in master

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iamlindoro:

Don't know if the theme stuff is manually or automatically triggered

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iamlindoro:

(or if the theme updates have been turned off in favor of the theme downloader, which would be a reasonable thing to do)

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tgm4883:

I'd have to check when I get home, it should pull and build everything from git

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tgm4883:

what is missing?

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iamlindoro:

You'd have to ask him, He says the metadata options "screen" is missing, but I presume he means the metadata options button

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iamlindoro:

since the screen is in default and default-wide and all it needs is the button to be able to access it

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tgm4883:

metadata options screen?

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iamlindoro:

Heh

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iamlindoro:

Let's just leave it at "stuff added to themes in master"

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iamlindoro:

specifically, Mythbuntu

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iamlindoro:

Specifically, the theme elements for http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enhancing_Recordin . . . adata_Lookup

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** tgm4883 looks **

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iamlindoro:

But There are default versions of the full screens, and I've updated the existing themes to add necessary buttons, etc.

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tgm4883:

odd

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tgm4883:

yep looks like it gets built with our 0.25 packages

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tgm4883:

so I'm not sure what the issue is, I'll have to get a 0.25 test machine up to check

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iamlindoro:

Never discount the possibility of user error (or dev error)

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iamlindoro:

but I added the necessary buttons and tested all themes when I did

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tgm4883:

I blame ChanServ, just can't trust that guy

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iamlindoro:

I like chanserv, he's always giving me stuff

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Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o iamlindoro

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iamlindoro:

see?

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Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : -o iamlindoro

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iamlindoro:

The Chanserv giveth, and the chanserv taketh away

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