| Wednesday, July 20th, 2011, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:06] | tlhiv_laptop: | surely this "hack" will no go away in later version |
| [00:02:33] | tlhiv_laptop: | i agree with wagnerrp that the primary function of mythtv is DVR, but there are so many features, there's no reason one should HAVE to use that feature |
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| [00:04:53] | jams: | i beleive the plan is to support tunerless MBE at one point. But it's just not ready yet |
| [00:05:22] | tlhiv_laptop: | MBE? |
| [00:06:35] | jams: | master backend |
| [00:07:07] | wagnerrp: | tlhiv_laptop: right, the plan is that at some point we will support tunerless backends |
| [00:07:08] | wagnerrp: | likely in the 0.26 time frame |
| [00:08:22] | jams: | tlhiv_laptop- for reference the "demo" tuner was not put in to get around the requirement to have a tuner. it just happens to work out well for that purpose |
| [00:08:52] | hoolio: | so, you know how linus decided to have a 3.0 kernel |
| [00:09:14] | wagnerrp: | yes, and its delayed |
| [00:09:31] | hoolio: | well i was wondering if we could have a myth 1.0 |
| [00:09:33] | hoolio: | :) |
| [00:09:43] | wagnerrp: | no, but we could have a myth 25 if you want |
| [00:09:47] | sphery: | aren't we supposed to do that for the 20th anniversary? |
| [00:10:08] | sphery: | (since 3.0 is 20th anniv of the Linux kernel) |
| [00:10:11] | wagnerrp: | wouldnt that be MythTV Legacy? |
| [00:11:06] | jams: | nah special edition |
| [00:11:34] | jams: | maybe upload zip files instead of tar.gz |
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| [00:13:31] | iamlindoro: | I have it on good authority that .24 is not "point two-four," but rather just, "Twenty-four." |
| [00:13:46] | iamlindoro: | Ergo One point-oh is FOREVER ago |
| [00:14:06] | wagnerrp: | didnt we start at like nine point-oh? |
| [00:14:08] | jams: | jack bauer edition |
| [00:14:27] | sphery: | maybe 0.9.0 |
| [00:15:07] | iamlindoro: | The correction came from Isaac, so I'm inclined to go with it :) |
| [00:15:22] | iamlindoro: | also, because it suits my perspective ;) |
| [00:15:28] | sphery: | wait, I don't remember a correction... |
| [00:15:35] | ** sphery feels woefully out of touch ** | |
| [00:15:57] | iamlindoro: | sphery: After I referred to .23 as "point two-three" repeatedly in an interview, that was his comment |
| [00:16:02] | iamlindoro: | "twenty-three." |
| [00:16:56] | sphery: | heh, I thought he was commenting that you made 0.23 sound like v23 |
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| [00:17:28] | iamlindoro: | I believe it was the inverse |
| [00:17:32] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, go with it |
| [00:18:00] | sphery: | ah, yeah, you're right |
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| [00:18:38] | sphery: | so maybe we should jump to 0.100.0 |
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| [00:19:02] | iamlindoro: | heh, I was afraid someone would say that |
| [00:19:11] | iamlindoro: | that by that logic, 1.00 is "one hundred" |
| [00:19:15] | sphery: | ooh, or 95, then 2000, then 2003 |
| [00:19:21] | iamlindoro: | XP |
| [00:19:25] | sphery: | heh, yeah |
| [00:19:25] | iamlindoro: | MythTV XP |
| [00:19:34] | sphery: | and then go to 7 |
| [00:19:40] | sphery: | we can skip the Vista release |
| [00:19:44] | iamlindoro: | That's the correct upgrade path, yes |
| [00:20:14] | jams: | oh we could have a "video clippy" to help set things up |
| [00:20:17] | sphery: | from what I hear, though 0.18.1 is already XP |
| [00:21:00] | iamlindoro: | Followed by Vista, Vista, Vista, Vista, Vista, and "unstable master?" |
| [00:21:07] | jams: | i would say .21 is more xp |
| [00:21:33] | sphery: | tell that to f-m-u |
| [00:21:44] | iamlindoro: | We hear that a lot from those who feel MythCenter is the pinnacle of all themes ever created |
| [00:21:54] | jams: | or maybe .21 is xp service pack 2 |
| [00:22:17] | jams: | with .18 being xp |
| [00:22:30] | sphery: | well, MythCenter is the best theme available today--stands the test of time. |
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| [00:23:12] | sphery: | Only reason I don't use MythCenter is because I'm not worthy of greatness. |
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| [00:23:23] | iamlindoro: | Those who so enamored of .21 and/or .18 can stay with it, nobody's making them upgrade |
| [00:23:36] | sphery: | agreed |
| [00:24:16] | sphery: | though I think jams was just saying that 0.21 is XP because a lot of people stuck with it instead of upgrading to MythTV 7 (0.23 and beyond) |
| [00:24:26] | jams: | yes |
| [00:24:33] | sphery: | mainly because of distro type issues |
| [00:24:43] | iamlindoro: | Well, I do rather think .23 was somewhat Vistaish ;) |
| [00:24:52] | sphery: | 0.22 was, wasn't it? |
| [00:24:53] | iamlindoro: | I think that .24 is quite a lot more polished, though |
| [00:24:56] | sphery: | and 0.23 was 7 |
| [00:24:58] | iamlindoro: | .22 too |
| [00:25:00] | sphery: | which makes 0.24 8 |
| [00:25:13] | iamlindoro: | We're getting too far ahead of usable metaphor |
| [00:25:15] | sphery: | I'd still call 0.23 a 7 |
| [00:25:21] | sphery: | heh, true |
| [00:25:37] | jams: | so which release was "ME" |
| [00:25:44] | sphery: | though Win 8 is getting some /great/ press--even from the "trash anything MS or Windows" crowds |
| [00:26:21] | iamlindoro: | .22 was great for what it was, ie "MUST get a release out to prove the project hasn't totally disappeared, and to make sure it works if people end up with Qt4 only" |
| [00:26:41] | iamlindoro: | When you consider the MASSIVE overhaul it got between the two versions, .22 is actually quite a feat |
| [00:26:47] | sphery: | yeah, but 0.23 was quite usable/useful |
| [00:26:56] | iamlindoro: | I admit it wasn't as polished as anyone would have liked, but hey |
| [00:27:03] | iamlindoro: | .23 and .24 have come quickly |
| [00:27:03] | sphery: | so it's better than vista to me |
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| [00:38:03] | mycosys: | usiong ur metaphor and explainations 0.22 is vista, 0.23 vista sp1 |
| [00:38:25] | mycosys: | massive change, great ideas, just not quite stable and could be faster |
| [00:39:06] | mycosys: | 0.24 may be vista sp2, with the hope that 25 will be 7, fast and works and the 'drivers' have cought up? |
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| [01:24:26] | k-man: | morning all |
| [01:24:40] | k-man: | so --daily was removed from shepherd |
| [01:25:26] | skd5aner: | oh no! It's morning already?!?! |
| [01:26:09] | skd5aner: | those total eclipses are getting darker and lasting longer I guess |
| [01:26:27] | skd5aner: | ;) |
| [01:31:56] | sphery: | It's just like Bonnie Tyler tried to warn us... |
| [01:33:22] | wagnerrp: | bonnie tyler? |
| [01:33:37] | sphery: | reference too obscure |
| [01:33:44] | sphery: | Total Eclipse of the Heart singer |
| [01:33:54] | wagnerrp: | never heard of em |
| [01:34:03] | sphery: | that's the song |
| [01:34:07] | sphery: | she's the singer |
| [01:34:12] | wagnerrp: | never heard of it |
| [01:34:23] | sphery: | you young 'uns |
| [01:36:02] | skd5aner: | I've bet you heard of it, but you're wise in lying and saying you haven't either way |
| [01:36:20] | sphery: | heh |
| [01:36:25] | skd5aner: | that said, I would have never of goten the reference by the singer's name alone |
| [01:36:29] | skd5aner: | gotten |
| [01:36:39] | skd5aner: | er, let's just go with got |
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| [02:07:28] | k-man: | what aspect ratio is SD tv? is it 4:3? |
| [02:15:12] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [02:15:57] | k-man: | thanks wagnerrp |
| [02:16:38] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i thought that was a meatloaf song |
| [02:17:27] | wagnerrp: | i definitely remember some male singing it |
| [02:17:39] | wagnerrp: | maybe the secondary band in The Wedding Singer? |
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| [02:24:33] | sphery: | Wikipedia says there was a bit of a contractual issue with it involving Meat Loaf, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meatloaf_%28sing . . . st_and_Found |
| [02:26:06] | wagnerrp: | by the way, AMD is getting less and less interesting |
| [02:26:47] | wagnerrp: | the 3.1GHz Athlon II chips are $60 |
| [02:27:00] | wagnerrp: | but for $90, you can pick up a 2.9GHz Sandy Bridge |
| [02:27:07] | wagnerrp: | with onboard video you can actually use |
| [02:34:58] | sphery: | where's the $60 2.9GHz Sany Bridge? At newegg, it's $78 for a 2.6GHz |
| [02:36:20] | sphery: | and 2.9GHz is $95--which is more than enough difference to get you a nice nvidia card |
| [02:36:30] | sphery: | (granted, higher power usage, but...) |
| [02:39:09] | sphery: | and an i3 3.1GHz is $120... versus A8–3850 2.9GHz (quad core vs dual--and with much better graphics, ignoring drivers) is $140 and an A6–3650 2.6GHz (quad) is $120 (though those are 100W vs the Sandy Bridge's 65W) |
| [02:39:48] | sphery: | but, yeah, would have been nice if the new A-series was a much better showing on the CPU side |
| [02:40:01] | sphery: | or at least if it came in 65W |
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| [02:43:04] | wagnerrp: | sphery: thats the thing... the Llanos would be nice, if they werent AMD graphics |
| [02:43:14] | wagnerrp: | and for a frontend, quad core isnt really necessary |
| [02:44:01] | wagnerrp: | that said, heres hoping their drivers continue to shape up |
| [02:45:02] | wagnerrp: | sphery: and im basing this on machines with onboard graphics |
| [02:45:18] | wagnerrp: | honestly, im finding it harder and harder to consider a discrete card for anything where i dont need power |
| [02:45:37] | wagnerrp: | the fact that you have to do it for decent video output is frustrating |
| [02:46:35] | sphery: | yeah. I'm only doing discrete graphics for my frontend systems--and only because it's really the only option that allows you to use current nvidia |
| [02:46:47] | wagnerrp: | its a shame you dont see more manufacturers integrating GT series mobile chips in motherboards |
| [02:47:01] | sphery: | and I have integrated amd graphics on all my other systems |
| [02:47:16] | wagnerrp: | yeah, my backend is an 880G system |
| [02:47:41] | sphery: | I think since nvidia got out of the chipset business, it doesn't pay to use integrated nvidia graphics |
| [02:48:14] | sphery: | since graphics has been mostly integrated into the northbridge for a while now... |
| [02:48:22] | wagnerrp: | the intel stuff still doesnt compete with a GT320M |
| [02:48:33] | wagnerrp: | and the AMD stuff wont cut it until they fix their memory bandwidth issues |
| [02:48:46] | sphery: | which memory bandwidth issues? |
| [02:48:58] | wagnerrp: | the llano systems are horribly bottlenecked |
| [02:49:03] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [02:49:20] | sphery: | I haven't looked too deeply into architecture or specs for them |
| [02:49:21] | wagnerrp: | they put far too much graphics card on there for the memory throughput |
| [02:50:01] | wagnerrp: | a big chunk o' edram, set up like nvidia's old turbocache, would do that chip wonders |
| [02:50:19] | sphery: | here's hoping |
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| [02:51:14] | wagnerrp: | 256MB of edram, and that chip would boot nvidia out of the midrange market |
| [02:52:25] | sphery: | maybe they'll surprise us with bulldozer (though next year is still a long way away :( ) |
| [02:53:57] | wagnerrp: | http://www.anandtech.com/show/4448/amd-llano- . . . ce-preview/3 |
| [02:54:13] | wagnerrp: | a 40% increase in bandwidth meant a 25% increase in graphical performance |
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| [03:29:59] | Dassu: | Is there a way to test recording profiles, specifically transcoders on the command line? My transcoders dont seem to be doing anything after they are started. |
| [03:31:17] | [R]: | run mythtranscode... |
| [03:36:31] | Dassu: | oke, did't see it had profile options, thanks |
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| [04:08:15] | Beirdo: | what a day |
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| [04:30:10] | k-man: | in mythcenter (not wide) when scheduling a recording, the "record one showing of this title every week" field gets trunkated as its too narrow |
| [04:30:27] | k-man: | is there any point me trying to fix that and submit a patch? |
| [04:30:44] | k-man: | or is that theme going away at some point? |
| [04:31:10] | wagnerrp: | that theme is not really a theme |
| [04:31:28] | wagnerrp: | its little more than a background against the UI defaults |
| [04:31:53] | k-man: | oh yeah – I'm sure ive had this conversation in the past – I forgot the gist of it |
| [04:32:12] | k-man: | but still, I can make the width of the field wider so it show the full recording option |
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| [05:02:43] | sphery: | k-man: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 27511#427511 |
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| [05:19:05] | k-man: | sphery, man that is an epic thread |
| [05:20:29] | k-man: | but thanks, it gives some clues in there |
| [05:21:10] | ** Beirdo curses at his computers ** | |
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| [05:48:49] | ** wagnerrp curses at Beirdo's computers ** | |
| [05:48:57] | wagnerrp: | why wont you wire yourselves together |
| [05:49:05] | wagnerrp: | silly wireless |
| [05:52:08] | Beirdo: | it's not that |
| [05:52:25] | Beirdo: | it's just them doing what they are told, not what I mean |
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| [05:54:10] | Beirdo: | that and failing RAID controllers at work |
| [05:55:28] | k-man: | can I make mythtv use my local git repo for the theme files rather than /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes? (specificaly for MythCenter) |
| [05:55:36] | Beirdo: | ahhhh, cache is now on |
| [05:55:55] | Beirdo: | good, I can tell it to reenable their abusive code tomorrow |
| [05:55:55] | [R]: | k-man: it'll look in ~/.mythtv |
| [05:57:48] | k-man: | [R], the theme directory in there? |
| [05:57:53] | [R]: | yeah |
| [05:58:52] | k-man: | so can I just do ln -s /my/theme ~/.mythtv/theme/mytheme or something? |
| [05:59:08] | [R]: | theoretically |
| [05:59:24] | k-man: | ok |
| [05:59:28] | k-man: | ill try that |
| [06:01:32] | k-man: | hmm.. how do I know if I got my version of MythCenter |
| [06:02:01] | [R]: | change the description |
| [06:02:05] | [R]: | or the name or whatever |
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| [06:46:44] | justinh: | mythcenter is still alive? Oh man |
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| [07:12:24] | k-man: | well and truly |
| [07:12:29] | k-man: | I use it all the time |
| [07:13:00] | k-man: | as I am still on SD 4:3 TV |
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| [07:20:08] | justinh: | Hmmm. I need a capture device to grab stills from 1080P camera blocks |
| [07:20:15] | justinh: | that's not going to be cheap |
| [07:26:55] | justinh: | ah. a boss has suggested we already have such a thing. a digital stills camera |
| [07:26:58] | justinh: | sigh |
| [07:27:24] | k-man: | would it not be useful to split MythCenter into a submodule? |
| [07:27:40] | k-man: | justinh, what are camera blocks? |
| [07:28:01] | justinh: | a camera block is.. well imagine a camcorder. a camera block is the camera bit inside a camcorder |
| [07:28:17] | justinh: | only we're not talking about camcorders.. more like CCTV surveillance domes |
| [07:29:04] | k-man: | oh I see |
| [07:29:15] | justinh: | a camera block is basically a lens, sensor & electronics which provide a video output all mounted together |
| [07:30:21] | k-man: | or let me rephrase – I think it would be useful to split MythCenter into a submodule so one could check it out to wherever you want for development purposes |
| [07:34:09] | justinh: | dunno what a submodule is |
| [07:34:29] | justinh: | can't you check it out to anywhere you want anyway? |
| [07:35:48] | justinh: | or just make a symbolically linked dir in ~/.mythtv/themes to the git directory |
| [07:35:48] | k-man: | justinh, no, git does not really support that |
| [07:36:02] | k-man: | a submodule is a git repo inside another repo |
| [07:36:09] | justinh: | ah. sounds lame |
| [07:36:18] | k-man: | why? |
| [07:37:03] | justinh: | so you're talking about being able to check out a theme, say – to /usr/share/mythtv/themes so you can edit the files in /usr/share/mythtv/themes & still have version control? |
| [07:37:14] | k-man: | yes |
| [07:37:19] | justinh: | if that's all you want I think linking would work |
| [07:37:37] | justinh: | ah nuts |
| [07:37:45] | k-man: | nuts what? |
| [07:38:11] | justinh: | you still have to check stuff out to a directory, right? |
| [07:38:32] | justinh: | I mean you can't edit files directly in the repo.. or can you? |
| [07:38:40] | k-man: | yes you can |
| [07:38:50] | justinh: | well then linking to the dir will be fine :) |
| [07:39:08] | k-man: | yes, I'll try that |
| [07:39:21] | justinh: | I think that's what I used to do when I was working with svn |
| [07:39:24] | k-man: | I think then one has to be careful not to do a make install though |
| [07:39:38] | k-man: | that would be confusing |
| [07:41:15] | justinh: | to avoid any doubt rename the theme |
| [07:41:29] | justinh: | or rather work on a copy of it |
| [07:41:30] | k-man: | yes, that's probably the way to go |
| [07:43:12] | k-man: | anyway, I'm off, bye all |
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| [08:16:40] | Gumby: | hi all. Someone here pointed me to a guide on what was meant by the upper and lower case letters when mythtv was tuning a dvb channel |
| [08:16:49] | Gumby: | does anyone happen to know what that URL might have been? |
| [08:18:57] | Gumby: | one of my dvb cards hangs on whatever the "S" stands for for about a minute while the other does not. trying to troubleshoot why one does and the other doesnt and fix the one that does |
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| [08:28:38] | justinh: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.22 ? |
| [08:29:02] | Gumby: | ah there we go. thanks justin |
| [08:29:03] | justinh: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.21 even. LOL |
| [08:29:21] | justinh: | first google result for "LMS mythtv". mythtvtalk.com – somebody linked it from there |
| [08:29:22] | Gumby: | now I just have to figure out why. hehe |
| [08:29:25] | justinh: | easy peasy |
| [08:30:14] | Gumby: | mine starts with TLM so thats what I was searching :( |
| [08:30:26] | Gumby: | I see no T on that list though |
| [08:30:56] | Gumby: | however, thats not my issue so I'll ignore it for now. |
| [08:31:03] | justinh: | anyway SDT is the service descriptor table |
| [08:31:15] | justinh: | so I presume if that isn't being seen maybe the card isn't even tuning |
| [08:31:34] | Gumby: | any idea why one card would show s/S and the other doesn't? Is there a setting to ignore it? |
| [08:31:37] | justinh: | or it's looking in the wrong place |
| [08:31:50] | Gumby: | it find its, but it can take anywhere from 10–60 seconds |
| [08:31:55] | Gumby: | s/its/it |
| [08:32:07] | justinh: | sounds like another great reason not to use live tv |
| [08:32:24] | justinh: | I assume both cards are the same make/model |
| [08:32:38] | Gumby: | one card shows TLAMC and the other shows TLMSC |
| [08:32:57] | Gumby: | not exactly the same models, but they are the same makes and use the same dvb drivers |
| [08:33:49] | Gumby: | one finds PAT and one finds SDT it seems |
| [08:34:08] | justinh: | swap the coax over |
| [08:34:33] | justinh: | (if both cards are looking at the same bird) |
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| [08:39:52] | Gumby: | same thing. same card shows TLMSC while the others shows TLAMC. |
| [08:40:00] | Gumby: | I'll try swapping the USB cables |
| [08:40:23] | justinh: | huh? |
| [08:40:28] | justinh: | what use would that be? |
| [08:40:39] | justinh: | so describe the setup |
| [08:40:52] | justinh: | dual LNB, diseqc switch? que? |
| [08:44:46] | Gumby: | two satellites, each with two dual LNBs |
| [08:45:18] | Gumby: | 4 multiswitches (1 per LNB) |
| [08:45:31] | Gumby: | sorry... actually the multis arent there right now |
| [08:45:36] | justinh: | you mean 2 dishes, not satellites? |
| [08:45:40] | Gumby: | yes |
| [08:45:48] | Gumby: | 2 dishes, 4 satellites |
| [08:46:04] | justinh: | so one tuner has problems no matter which dish/lnb it's looking at? |
| [08:46:12] | justinh: | test it outside of mythtv |
| [08:46:15] | justinh: | just to be sure |
| [08:50:12] | Gumby: | just tested by swapping the USB cables so the cards will be recognized in reverse order. The same mythtv tuner has the delayed s/S. |
| [08:50:24] | Gumby: | so its a mythtv setting and not the hardware itself |
| [08:50:34] | Gumby: | or, could be a driver setting I guess too |
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| [08:55:42] | Gumby: | I figured it out :) |
| [08:56:05] | Gumby: | quick tune is the difference |
| [08:57:30] | Gumby: | when it is disabled is when it hangs on the 's' for awhile |
| [08:59:19] | Gumby: | well... now that that is out of the way.. I can sleep |
| [08:59:23] | Gumby: | thanks for your help justinh |
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| [11:06:54] | slacker-: | Hi |
| [11:07:16] | slacker-: | Does anyone know a bit about the mythnuv2mkv.sh script? |
| [11:07:57] | slacker-: | I was wondering why the "level_idc=31" option is set for mencoder |
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| [11:08:38] | slacker-: | and what it does, actually |
| [11:11:34] | justinh: | man mencoder |
| [11:12:38] | slacker-: | that doesn't really explain |
| [11:13:00] | slacker-: | unless you expect me to read the H.264 standard as well |
| [11:14:01] | justinh: | why not? |
| [11:14:26] | slacker-: | because I don't know what "bitstream's level as defined by annex A of the H.264 standard" means |
| [11:15:51] | slacker-: | I used the script to encode a recording and it doesn't play in mplayer because of too many errors. I'm trying to figure out why |
| [11:16:26] | justinh: | I tend to use VLC as the benchmark for stuff like that |
| [11:16:31] | justinh: | i.e. if it's ok in vlc.. |
| [11:17:48] | slacker-: | in vlc audio takes about 10 seconds to start |
| [11:23:59] | slacker-: | after each skip |
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| [12:27:58] | k-man: | how do I play a directory of videos in mythvideo? |
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| [12:33:46] | k-man: | oh, its on the info key |
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| [12:49:01] | k-man: | mmm.. compiling the kernel with 8 cores is nice and fast |
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| [15:51:11] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: If I have a recording of a tv show with no subtitle (so it didn't match anything to during metadata lookup) should its season/episode be 0x0 or 1x1 or something else? |
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| [15:53:33] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: Not enough input data-- what are you seeing? |
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| [15:54:06] | iamlindoro: | and further, with what revision |
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| [15:57:02] | ThisNewGuy: | this is against "fc291397922fc6489f108620826592e3e0f296cf" – I think some of my data is messed up since I've run so many times against so many revisions so I'm hoping to do some spot fixes so I don't have to lose all of my data |
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| [15:59:03] | ThisNewGuy: | right now I have 0x0 in those cases where a TV show recording didn't find any matches against the metadata lookup |
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| [16:11:50] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: That is the correct behavior |
| [16:12:04] | iamlindoro: | The season and episode should be unset when no specific match is found |
| [16:12:07] | iamlindoro: | s 0x0 |
| [16:12:09] | iamlindoro: | er so |
| [16:12:33] | ThisNewGuy: | k – cool – thanks |
| [16:12:38] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [16:13:07] | iamlindoro: | There was a brief period where generic was set as 1x01, but obviously that's not correct/what we want |
| [16:16:26] | iamlindoro: | (because 1x01 refers to a specific episode, which the generic almost certainly is not) |
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| [16:17:47] | ThisNewGuy: | that makes sense to me – thanks! |
| [16:21:26] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [16:35:34] | koffel: | hey all i am tring to install mythtv 24 on ubuntu 8.10 and i get this error Error! QtWebkit headers not found |
| [16:36:27] | sphery: | koffel: you need Qt 4 including Qt4's qtwebkit package |
| [16:36:43] | sphery: | or libqt4-webkit or something like that |
| [16:36:57] | koffel: | i did install that |
| [16:37:22] | koffel: | libqt4-webkit is already the newest version. |
| [16:37:28] | sphery: | and you may need to set a PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/qt/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig (or whatever--depending on where it's installed) |
| [16:38:30] | sphery: | (the above is almost definitely wrong for your system, but shows the format... specify that in the shell you use to call configure) |
| [16:39:12] | koffel: | do i do ./configure -PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/qt/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig ? |
| [16:39:59] | sphery: | PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/qt/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-proc-opt |
| [16:40:25] | sphery: | or do it as 2 commands (set PKG_CONFIG_PATH, then call configure separately) |
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| [16:45:50] | wagnerrp: | ubuntu 8.10? |
| [16:45:53] | sphery: | heh, a researcher in Harvard University's Center for Ethics broke into a locked MIT wiring closet to get unauthorized access to MIT's network, and then used that access to steal almost 5M articles from over 1000 academic journals (including 1.7M that were listed for sale)... This must be the /new/ ethics... |
| [16:47:40] | wagnerrp: | sphery: well... that depends on your interpretation of their rules |
| [16:47:42] | sphery: | koffel: yeah, wagnerrp has a point... upgrading to current ubuntu may make a lot more sense |
| [16:47:55] | wagnerrp: | MIT subscribes to those journals and databases |
| [16:48:10] | wagnerrp: | MIT students and employees are allowed free and unrestricted access to them |
| [16:48:18] | sphery: | but not for random Harvard people, right? |
| [16:48:30] | wagnerrp: | oh, missed that |
| [16:48:39] | wagnerrp: | it was a Harvard employee who did that |
| [16:48:42] | sphery: | yeah |
| [16:48:48] | sphery: | actually one of the co-founders of Reddit |
| [16:48:57] | sphery: | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/19/harvard_fellow_indicted/ |
| [16:49:00] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i saw that |
| [16:49:10] | wagnerrp: | but i didnt realize it was someone unaffiliated with MIT |
| [16:49:27] | sphery: | and, besides, if he /was/ going to post them to a filesharing site, as they think, he was definitely "bending" ethics |
| [16:49:41] | wagnerrp: | true enough |
| [16:49:56] | wagnerrp: | but then posting them to file sharing would be the issue |
| [16:49:56] | sphery: | now if he had written them himself... but since he's stealing other peoples' work... |
| [16:49:58] | wagnerrp: | not accessing them |
| [16:50:04] | sphery: | yeah |
| [16:50:20] | sphery: | and really even just breaking into the wiring closet and hooking up unauthorized equipment... |
| [16:50:53] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the fact that he registered equipment under a false identity |
| [16:51:06] | wagnerrp: | and repeatedly bypassed MITs attempts to limit him |
| [16:51:39] | sphery: | Oooh, the *perfect* frontend /and/ backend is a phone! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/20/optus . . . _the_mobile/ |
| [16:52:12] | sphery: | yeah, definintely--that was also bending ethics a bit (to the breaking point, even?) |
| [16:56:11] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: I think I found a case where fan art can get messed up – it's a little involved so I put the steps to reproduce here: http://pastebin.com/QPV8fStT |
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| [17:13:44] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: Have you made any code changes? I am having a hard time understanding how the lookup for a generic recording would happen at all in non-dangerous mode |
| [17:14:05] | iamlindoro: | The Guessed type for a show which is generic should prevent the lookup ever happening |
| [17:16:36] | ThisNewGuy: | in metadatadownload lines 89–94 if you have a Guessed TV Show that doesn't have season, episode or subtitle it will fall through to generic |
| [17:16:56] | iamlindoro: | Which isn't even supposed to be reached on a generic show |
| [17:17:03] | iamlindoro: | so I'm asking if you have made any code changes |
| [17:18:22] | iamlindoro: | GuessLookupType should, in your example, return kProbableGenericTelevision |
| [17:18:30] | iamlindoro: | Which prevents the lookup ever being run on the recording |
| [17:18:41] | iamlindoro: | unless you're specifically using --refresh-all-artwork-dangerously |
| [17:20:18] | ThisNewGuy: | I did make some code changes :-( so maybe it's my fault – but I'm running --refresh-all-artwork and it is returning kProbableTelevision |
| [17:21:55] | iamlindoro: | I can't help you against modified code-- the code is universal, which means when you hack it in one direction, you break it in another |
| [17:22:10] | wagnerrp: | sphery: and here all this time, we could have easily removed 'that' howto... http://www.jamesbreckenridge.co.uk/remove-any . . . trol-it.html |
| [17:22:28] | ThisNewGuy: | imalindoro: I understand |
| [17:31:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: hehe |
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| [17:36:48] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: If anything I sympathize-- every time you try to change one thing, it will break another unless you really know it well-- but I have my hands full keeping track of all of the nooks and crannies of the default code |
| [17:37:56] | sphery: | new mac mini is AMD graphics... there goes a nice, small, off-the-shelf frontend system |
| [17:38:59] | sphery: | guess now people have to buy atom systems |
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| [17:39:14] | ThisNewGuy: | I get it – you can't support users running a different code base from everyone else |
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| [17:48:08] | deemac: | I was curious if anyone knew if the Hauppauge Colossus will work with mythtv? I can't seem to find anything mythtv.org about it. |
| [17:48:34] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [17:49:17] | deemac: | so the Hauppauge HD-PVR 1212 is the only option for componet video in? |
| [17:49:22] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [17:49:37] | deemac: | Damn! Alright thanks! |
| [17:50:55] | deemac: | anyone using one personally or have used one? wondering how stable they are for recording, heard some people had issues with them cutting out during recordings |
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| [19:01:38] | DeviceZer0: | wagnerrp, was it you that mentioned something about avidemux's dev branch being able to now edit hdpvr recordings? |
| [19:02:09] | wagnerrp: | someone mentioned it, not i |
| [19:02:19] | DeviceZer0: | ah ok. for some reason i thought it was you. |
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| [19:02:40] | DeviceZer0: | was just gonna ask if anyone was tried it out. |
| [19:02:58] | DeviceZer0: | i got a whole huge backlog of shows id like to compress a bit more and remove commercials from. |
| [19:03:06] | DeviceZer0: | starting to take up too much space hehe |
| [19:13:44] | AndyCap: | DeviceZer0: This? http://edwardhughes.org/2011/06/lossless-h-26 . . . st-fallback/ |
| [19:14:08] | AndyCap: | DeviceZer0: not going to recommend it or anything since I haven't tried it myself. |
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| [19:15:32] | DeviceZer0: | AndyCap, that looks like it. I did not look very far into it yet. Someone in here mentioned one of the devs commited some changes that allowed editing of hdpvr and better x264 support. |
| [19:16:03] | DeviceZer0: | which is awesome...there is virtually nothing in linux that will do what avidemux does...with x264 encoded videos |
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| [21:08:52] | wagnerrp: | FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU----------------------- |
| [21:15:30] | wagnerrp: | its like 95deg out, so i left my car windows open |
| [21:15:36] | wagnerrp: | now its like 95deg out... and raining... |
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| [23:02:57] | justdave: | are there known problems in myth's dvd playback with audio randomly coming up all static? (0.24 branch) or do I have something screwy on my hardware? |
| [23:03:18] | justdave: | skipping back and forth a little with the left/right arrows seems to clear it up usually |
| [23:03:25] | wagnerrp: | so many times spoken to, and now he speaks himself |
| [23:03:38] | wagnerrp: | it is the end of days |
| [23:03:41] | justdave: | heh :) |
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| [23:32:33] | wagnerrp: | justdave: anyway, there are a couple open tickets for dvd playback issues |
| [23:32:45] | wagnerrp: | but i believe those are all for complete lack of playback and/or segfaults |
| [23:32:56] | wagnerrp: | yours is more likely related to an audio issue |
| [23:33:19] | wagnerrp: | and static likely means youre pumping compressed AC3/DTS through a digital output |
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| [23:33:32] | wagnerrp: | and the receiving end is not decoding it, but rather handling it as PCM |
| [23:33:38] | wagnerrp: | or something funky along those lines |
| [23:36:11] | justdave: | it's analog output on a headphone jack, unfortunately |
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