| Thursday, July 7th, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:10] | iamlindoro: | since 11.04 went out "by default" with a version of .24 with a patch applied that causes trouble for ivtv and v4l cards |
| [00:03:00] | lwizardl: | i have just done a fresh install of the 11.04 |
| [00:03:39] | iamlindoro: | So, step one is install the Mythbuntu PPA and get to current .24-fixes |
| [00:04:01] | iamlindoro: | because the out-of-the-box version of mythTV included in that will not work properly with ivtv (pvr-150) or v4l cards |
| [00:04:14] | lwizardl: | ah ok |
| [00:05:07] | lwizardl: | got a guide for doing that? |
| [00:05:44] | sphery: | Diverdude: now that you found the right channel, the answer to your other question is to wait for 0.25--and then you'll be able to change the font face/size for subtitles |
| [00:06:19] | wagnerrp: | sphery: he asked here first, and then asked there having not gotten a response within three minutes |
| [00:06:29] | sphery: | ah, didn't see all that |
| [00:06:54] | sphery: | lwizardl: if you don't see the PVR-x50, it's quite likely you're using a too-old MythTV on a too-new distro |
| [00:07:24] | sphery: | meaning you need to upgrade to current 0.24-fixes (i.e. http://mythbuntu.org/repos or similar for your chosen distro) |
| [00:07:49] | sphery: | ah, but I see that was mentioned... |
| [00:07:55] | iamlindoro: | lwizardl: http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [00:07:56] | lwizardl: | sphery, ok I just got the one from the livecd and doing the system updates now |
| [00:09:16] | lwizardl: | k |
| [00:14:41] | lwizardl: | will the new ppa still new the fw for the kworld card |
| [00:14:42] | lwizardl: | ? |
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| [00:16:41] | sphery: | should have everything the cd had, but more up-to-date |
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| [00:20:37] | lwizardl: | ok so in the repos i need to use the 0.24.x right ? |
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| [00:22:36] | Twiggy2cents: | Does anybody in here have google music? |
| [00:23:05] | plink212: | since upgrading to trunk I am having a weird issue by which mythpreviewgen is locking the recordings and I cannot delete them |
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| [00:31:24] | BobLfoot: | I could use suggestions – I am following the install instructions from the wiki for mythweb and every time I enable Auth I wind up caught in a continuous loop of Authentication required popups. |
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| [00:38:14] | lwizardl: | ok i added that 0.24.x ppa and did updates |
| [00:38:28] | lwizardl: | and when I go back to backend setup still not found |
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| [01:31:20] | mag0o: | I've followed the wiki page on setting up the hd-pvr blaster and can't get the lirc_zilog module to create the /dev/lirc* device nor load the haup-ir-blaster.bin firmware. Using lirc 0.9.0 compiled from source on slackware64 13.37 with lirc_zilog from 2.6.37.6 kernel |
| [01:31:30] | mag0o: | any ideas on where to go from here? |
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| [01:59:35] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you use ext3, do you know off hand how fast an fsck should run? |
| [02:00:21] | tonyb: | I have some shows hat are marked to auto expire. After changing the schedule can I just: update recorded set autoexpire=0 where <some cluase>; to make the shows to not autoexpire? |
| [02:00:57] | wagnerrp: | best to do it through the UI |
| [02:01:48] | tonyb: | wagnerrp: is there a way in the UI to do it for multiple shows? I have 111 shows that I want to update? |
| [02:02:24] | wagnerrp: | you might be able to mark a whole playlist to not autoexpire |
| [02:02:47] | wagnerrp: | however, you only autoexpire if you run out of room |
| [02:03:02] | wagnerrp: | if youre not expiring those, something else will end up deleted |
| [02:03:57] | tonyb: | wagnerrp: Thanks. I figured that was the case. My son will cry if I remove anymore of his shows :( |
| [02:04:58] | tonyb: | wagnerrp: I know its a bandaid, but I can't get more diskspace until the weekend. |
| [02:08:03] | tonyb: | On a (slightly) realted question. Can I update the subtitle and description in the database. The guide data isn't very helpful. I'd like to make some notes if I can. |
| [02:08:45] | wagnerrp: | are you using 0.24 or 0.25? |
| [02:09:21] | tonyb: | 0.24 |
| [02:10:16] | wagnerrp: | i dont believe the recording info box allows for manual alteration of recording metadata |
| [02:10:30] | wagnerrp: | you can do it manually in the database, but such action is advised against |
| [02:10:42] | wagnerrp: | or you can write something using the perl/python/php bindings |
| [02:12:15] | tonyb: | wagnerrp: Thanks. I'll look into the bindings. |
| [02:16:13] | wagnerrp: | the python bindings make it very easy to import content from the metadata grabbers |
| [02:16:44] | wagnerrp: | as in, it only takes a few lines... http://www.wagnerrp.com/wiki/Recorded_supplement.py |
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| [02:39:38] | tonyb: | wagnerrp: "The requested URL /wiki/Recorded_supplement.py was not found on this server." |
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| [02:52:54] | justdave: | I'm on Mythbuntu, and any time I put a DVD in, I get a popup from the OS complaining that it can't mount the DVD (but if I then go hit Play DVD on the optical menu in Mythtv, it plays) |
| [02:53:32] | justdave: | I just checked my system preferences, and all of the system actions to act on when a DVD is inserted are disabled like they should be (because myth is supposed to be handling it) |
| [02:53:36] | justdave: | any ideas? |
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| [03:03:44] | wagnerrp: | tonyb: I must have typed it wrong, its there |
| [03:04:40] | wagnerrp: | mmm... noodles |
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| [03:06:53] | wagnerrp: | tonyb: whoops... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Recorded_supplement.py |
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| [03:42:26] | tonyb: | wagnerrp: Thanks. |
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| [03:59:25] | kisak: | wagnerrp: ping? |
| [04:01:12] | wagnerrp: | pong? |
| [04:02:23] | kisak: | wagnerrp: do you recall working on the ebuild for 0.25 and trying to make a block that removes mythvideo |
| [04:02:46] | wagnerrp: | yeah, concluded there was nothing |
| [04:03:09] | wagnerrp: | unless youve found some esoteric feature of portage |
| [04:03:32] | kisak: | I'm thinking there is something, but it's in either eapi 3 or 4 (not eapi=2) |
| [04:04:47] | kisak: | x11-libs/gnome-pty-helper-0.28.1 possibly has better behavior, although it's not an exact match to what I was looking for |
| [04:08:58] | wagnerrp: | i really wish portage had more complete documentation |
| [04:17:18] | kisak: | well, I'll mention it again if I come across something definate which can help, otherwise it's just chasing smoke on the wind |
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| [05:49:15] | peque: | If I want to use my own xmlfile for my sources in MBE – How do I set up XMLTV to accept this? In my point I'm paying for a better XMLTV file with more info and details. But I cannot get MBE to accept the data thaty I'm sending into mythfilldatabase – how should my sources be configuresd with this setup – with external xmlfile og no builtin grabbers! |
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| [07:15:16] | dekarl: | peque: Your xmltv source does not come with a grabber? If it's just a static file download you can add a simple grabber based on http://xmltv.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/xmltv/xmltv/gr . . . ?view=markup |
| [07:20:14] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:20:20] | Beirdo: | !seen Kazer |
| [07:20:20] | MythLogBot: | Kazer is here and has been idle for 11 days 22 hours 10 minutes 37 seconds |
| [07:20:36] | Beirdo: | wow. I thought it had been a while, I guess not ;) |
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| [07:27:35] | peque: | dekarl: Normally I'm downloading a xml file – with I have earliere just fill into MythTV using this commadn: mythfilldatabase --update --file 1 name_of_downloadet_xmlfile which ain't working anymore |
| [07:29:52] | peque: | But the --file commands give an error now – so I've tried with sourceid and a lot of other options. But Not sure how this work since this have been working for several years and now after a reinstall of my MBE – it doesn't! Should I configure anything regarding to the source – normally I'm using mythweb to add the different xmltvid and thats it |
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| [07:35:51] | lapion: | hmm when I record certain shows at high quality I sometimes get huge files, very huge files, today a 1:20 recording that's 13.5 GB in size, more then twice the regular HQ recording and all that from an SD analog card |
| [07:41:36] | lapion: | well actually it's more like 3* the regular high quality recordings |
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| [08:13:23] | peque: | The main reason for using my own external xmlfile – carse the danish builtin grabber ain't updated missing a lot of channels etc – But should I configure this first and afterwards change everything suchs as xmltv id and so .... to make this work |
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| [10:44:28] | hanseatic: | could i use my existing vdr-box (m740 with vdr firmware) as an input source (pseudo-tuner-card)? |
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| [11:11:16] | wagnerrp: | if the VDR box exposes itself as a DVB tuner, or an IPTV source, sure |
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| [11:19:00] | hanseatic: | it behaves as a vdr... you can tune in to a stream e.g. by http://ip:3000/programmnumber |
| [11:25:24] | wagnerrp: | mythtv does not support http streams at this time |
| [11:28:21] | hanseatic: | MythNetVision? |
| [11:28:45] | hanseatic: | or mythstream? |
| [11:29:11] | wagnerrp: | neither are intended to record, just to view |
| [11:34:24] | hanseatic: | i see |
| [11:39:08] | hanseatic: | thnx... guess i'll look into vdr a bit more |
| [11:39:14] | wagnerrp: | feel free to write a new input for access from VDR |
| [11:39:29] | wagnerrp: | but dont expect it to be committed upstream |
| [11:39:47] | wagnerrp: | we had a similar input for input from a dreambox, but ended up having to delete it |
| [11:39:59] | wagnerrp: | as no developers ever used it, or had any care to maintain it |
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| [12:31:37] | EvilGuru: | I know this is a bit of a niche question: but has anyone got VDPAU + compositing window manager to work without tearing? |
| [12:32:16] | EvilGuru: | I ask as I use a windowed mythfrontend on my desktop and would like to use compositing |
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| [13:51:01] | EvilGuru: | http://pastebin.com/UH0u9eQ3 — are the Mythtv provided ebuilds for Gentoo currently broken? |
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| [13:51:46] | zombor: | EvilGuru: ive found the only one i could build on gentoo was .23 in portage |
| [13:54:36] | tom_: | Hello all, I'm trying to compile 0.23.1 on a new FE and I'm having trouble. This FE is running opsnSuSE 11.4 with QT 4.7.3. |
| [13:55:02] | tom_: | Here is a pastebin of my error, I'd appreciate any help: http://pastebin.com/9RT493BK |
| [13:58:15] | EvilGuru: | zombor: I ditched the offending patch and it compiled |
| [13:58:36] | zombor: | an, im still on .23, not in a huge rush to upgrade |
| [13:58:39] | wagnerrp: | EvilGuru: seems we forgot to remove the patch after it was pushed upstream |
| [13:59:55] | EvilGuru: | zombor: I'm just taking my backend to 0.24 now |
| [14:00:00] | wagnerrp: | it would only affect people on kernel 2.6.38 or newer |
| [14:00:08] | wagnerrp: | which is why ive only seen it reported once before |
| [14:00:18] | zombor: | im on .39 :) |
| [14:00:21] | EvilGuru: | I was on plain 0.23, but it was getting a pain to maintain |
| [14:01:16] | zombor: | this is just a normal overlay? |
| [14:01:25] | zombor: | i havent updated to .24 because it's not in portage |
| [14:01:37] | wagnerrp: | yes, official one on github |
| [14:01:38] | EvilGuru: | 0.23 was from Gentoo, I am now compiling 0.24 from the mythtv overlay |
| [14:01:52] | zombor: | maybe ill update this weekend :) |
| [14:01:56] | EvilGuru: | no idea if the Gentoo one is still being maintained |
| [14:02:05] | wagnerrp: | not exactly |
| [14:02:15] | zombor: | why not? |
| [14:02:37] | wagnerrp: | doug hasnt been updating his system for some years |
| [14:02:41] | ** EvilGuru is still waiting for the frontend and backend stuff to be split ** | |
| [14:02:48] | wagnerrp: | so he hasnt had anything to test the new builds on |
| [14:02:56] | wagnerrp: | EvilGuru: split for what purpose? |
| [14:03:00] | zombor: | but if there's ebuilds on github, why not push them up to official portage |
| [14:03:15] | wagnerrp: | zombor: well thats the current plan now |
| [14:03:18] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: Just a pain to have to compile the backend when I only use the frontend |
| [14:03:20] | zombor: | ah, ok |
| [14:03:48] | wagnerrp: | EvilGuru: only if youre trying to do so on some POS Atom, and then only if youre not using ccache |
| [14:05:28] | wagnerrp: | as a test, compiling the backend on -j4 on a 3.3GHz dual core takes a whopping 15 seconds |
| [14:05:48] | zombor: | O_o |
| [14:06:00] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: Is that from a make clean? |
| [14:06:05] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [14:06:11] | zombor: | iirc, compiling on my i3 took at least 15 minutes |
| [14:06:17] | wagnerrp: | make clean, and then make, in programs/mythbackend |
| [14:06:40] | wagnerrp: | technically, you could omit mythfilldatabase too, another couple seconds |
| [14:07:57] | wagnerrp: | EvilGuru, zombor: not compiling the backend means just that, not compiling that one application |
| [14:08:04] | wagnerrp: | there is really little code in the individual applications |
| [14:08:07] | wagnerrp: | its all in the shared libraries |
| [14:08:13] | zombor: | doesn't matter to me, i've gotta compile it all ;) |
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| [14:08:39] | zombor: | im re-setting up an atom machine next week for the new tv |
| [14:09:05] | wagnerrp: | the backend accounts for about 27k lines, including all header and source files |
| [14:09:40] | wagnerrp: | in comparison, mythtv is around 1.25M lines of source, plus another .7M or so for the FFMPEG include |
| [14:10:47] | clever: | i remember the longest stage in 'make' for me, was the svnversion pass, scanning every directory to check its revision |
| [14:11:07] | clever: | but now that its git, that should be solved |
| [14:11:27] | wagnerrp: | svn version should not have needed to scan every directory |
| [14:11:59] | wagnerrp: | EvilGuru: right now, the only thing you would really get from breaking apart the frontend and backend is better tuned dependency lists |
| [14:12:03] | clever: | it recursively scans everything within the working directory to see if any directorys have a different revision then the top one |
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| [14:14:46] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: I did not realise how little the backend contributed |
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| [14:16:02] | clever: | EvilGuru: one odd thing i discovered when trying to remove the GUI libs from backend linking a few years back |
| [14:16:24] | clever: | EvilGuru: the backend creates an instance of every GUI pane in the config wizard, to setup defaults and stuff |
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| [14:18:55] | iamlindoro: | Note to self for the logs: Unsolicited mass PMs |
| [14:22:27] | tom_: | Have any of you successfully compiled 0.23 with QT 4.7? |
| [14:24:50] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: im considering reworking the ebuild generator to only create a new one if there have been changes below that branch |
| [14:25:05] | wagnerrp: | to prevent unnecessary rebuilds of stuff |
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| [14:25:26] | wagnerrp: | but im somewhat concerned about that inducing a bunch of unnecessary downloads of different tree versions |
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| [14:25:31] | wagnerrp: | opinions? |
| [14:31:05] | EvilGuru: | Do 0.24 and 0.24.1 use the same protocol? |
| [14:31:43] | wagnerrp: | yes, 0.24.1 was just a point release for the convenience of packagers |
| [14:32:47] | EvilGuru: | Okay, as 0.23 => 0.23.1 changed, IIRC |
| [14:32:54] | EvilGuru: | and 0.21 seemed to have two protocols going for it |
| [14:33:23] | wagnerrp: | correct, 0.23.1 was a specific fix that required a protocol update, which in turn requires a new version |
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| [14:43:56] | brushhead: | Hello, is there anyone listening? |
| [14:44:08] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [14:44:30] | brushhead: | can someone explain the use of a slave and master backend please? |
| [14:45:24] | wagnerrp: | all backends record off tuners and serve up videos to frontends |
| [14:45:39] | wagnerrp: | the master backend runs the scheduler, housekeeper, and a handful of other additional tasks |
| [14:46:06] | brushhead: | yeah, i got that.....so if I have slave backends with tuners, then the recording will end up on the master backend? |
| [14:46:10] | wagnerrp: | if you need more storage or tuners than can fit in the single master backend, you add those to one or more slave backends |
| [14:46:50] | wagnerrp: | if you have a slave backend with tuners, its recordings will end up on where ever you told the slave backend to record to |
| [14:47:03] | wagnerrp: | whether that be local disks, or an NFS mount to the master backend's disks |
| [14:47:22] | brushhead: | right....if I do it via nfs to my master backend that's fine.... |
| [14:47:34] | brushhead: | but the master backend database will not show those recordings to other clients? |
| [14:47:45] | brushhead: | or rather make them available in the recorded tv section |
| [14:47:45] | wagnerrp: | there is no 'master backend database' |
| [14:47:50] | wagnerrp: | there is just 'the database' |
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| [14:48:30] | wagnerrp: | the implication there being there is only a single shared database, used by all frontends and backends |
| [14:48:43] | brushhead: | ok.... |
| [14:48:51] | wagnerrp: | meaning that your mysql server be set up to accept connections from all your frontends and backends over the network |
| [14:48:56] | brushhead: | so there is a database which lives only on the master backend yes? |
| [14:49:10] | brushhead: | the slave backends talk to the database on the master be? |
| [14:49:12] | wagnerrp: | it can live anywhere you want, but most people run it on their master backends |
| [14:49:22] | brushhead: | yes i got that... |
| [14:49:52] | brushhead: | but there is only one database for the whole chain of slaves and f/e's? |
| [14:49:57] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [14:50:12] | wagnerrp: | one database existing on one database server |
| [14:50:15] | brushhead: | ok....i need to play with that... |
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| [14:50:31] | brushhead: | the documentation is a bit hit and miss for understanding the masters and slaves |
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| [14:51:31] | brushhead: | i find it is anyway...maybe i'm looking in the wrong places |
| [14:52:19] | brushhead: | thanks for the help anyway |
| [14:52:35] | wagnerrp: | well at some point, the database is planned to be moved into the master backend as embedded mysql |
| [14:52:44] | wagnerrp: | at which point it will cease to be an issue entirely |
| [14:52:45] | brushhead: | are you a dev then? |
| [14:52:50] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [14:53:03] | brushhead: | ah right....how much are you responsible for? |
| [14:53:18] | brushhead: | i've experience with C++ but it's such a behemoth that I have no idea where to start |
| [14:53:38] | wagnerrp: | currently, the python bindings |
| [14:54:10] | brushhead: | i've been playing with multicast are ages suing mythtv |
| [14:54:15] | wagnerrp: | to a lesser extent, the backend protocol, the jobqueue, and some utility stuff like the system() implementation, and command line parser |
| [14:54:17] | brushhead: | got some encouraging results too |
| [14:54:52] | wagnerrp: | there was some lost meaning in that sentence |
| [14:55:11] | wagnerrp: | 'are ages suing mythtv' |
| [14:55:25] | brushhead: | sorry yes, fingers too fast and not accurate |
| [14:55:43] | brushhead: | i've been doing things with multicast IPTV on myth...streaming DVB-T here in uk |
| [14:55:48] | brushhead: | and presenting it with myth |
| [14:56:04] | brushhead: | using the network recorder tuners |
| [14:56:05] | wagnerrp: | as in, having myth output video over multicast? |
| [14:56:15] | wagnerrp: | or recording using the multicast IPTV tuner |
| [14:56:31] | brushhead: | well everything actually...presenting live and tv and recording |
| [14:56:34] | EvilGuru: | Hmm, when running the 0.24 frontend on my MacBook there appears to be no deinterlacing |
| [14:56:42] | brushhead: | i'm trying to get it to a point where it could be used in hotels |
| [14:56:49] | brushhead: | i have an idea for a code bounty too |
| [14:57:01] | brushhead: | pay video on demand with a paypal plugin |
| [14:57:25] | brushhead: | i use PC architecture |
| [14:57:50] | brushhead: | mini-itx front ends...with nVidia chipsets for preparation for vdpau in 0.25 |
| [14:58:58] | wagnerrp: | you intend direct playback of multicast streams in the frontend, while using the existing mythtv functionality for VOD? |
| [14:59:20] | brushhead: | yes...VOD as a plugin....manipulate the menu xml files to present what I want |
| [14:59:29] | wagnerrp: | no, i mean mythtv IS VOD |
| [14:59:31] | wagnerrp: | thats all it does |
| [14:59:44] | brushhead: | yep i suppose it is....phone brb |
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| [15:02:36] | brushhead: | yes myth is completely vod agreed |
| [15:03:09] | brushhead: | but i had the idea of putting together aplug in (for hotels don't forget) to allow the viewing of pay vod...ordinary tv would be free as you might imagine |
| [15:03:27] | brushhead: | complete with PVR functionailty |
| [15:03:48] | wagnerrp: | well first off, think about this legally |
| [15:04:04] | wagnerrp: | there are some legal issues with receiving broadcast tv and rebroadcasting for a commercial cable system |
| [15:04:09] | wagnerrp: | even if its inside a hotel |
| [15:04:42] | brushhead: | yes that would be a consideration... |
| [15:04:42] | wagnerrp: | normally you either buy a special service from the cable company, or license the satellite feeds directly and set up your own headend |
| [15:04:56] | brushhead: | yes...there is sicu a system for domestic tv here in the uk |
| [15:05:05] | brushhead: | sicu = such |
| [15:05:07] | EvilGuru: | Hmm, why would live tv not be deinterlaced? |
| [15:05:18] | brushhead: | deinterlaced? |
| [15:05:21] | EvilGuru: | I've set yadif to be my sole deinterlacing filter |
| [15:05:32] | wagnerrp: | it may be different in the uk, considering you are paying the BBC tax per-television |
| [15:05:44] | wagnerrp: | i dont know |
| [15:05:50] | brushhead: | that's right...there is a different tv licence for hotels |
| [15:05:54] | wagnerrp: | certainly something to hash out before spending any money |
| [15:06:00] | EvilGuru: | With 0.23(.1) deinterlacing was working, however with 0.24 it isn't |
| [15:06:02] | brushhead: | oh yes i completely agree |
| [15:06:26] | wagnerrp: | how large would this installation be? |
| [15:06:41] | brushhead: | well because it's multicast it could scale to be something quite large |
| [15:06:48] | wagnerrp: | a couple sets? a couple dozen? hundred? |
| [15:07:05] | brushhead: | depends on backend capacity obviously |
| [15:07:31] | brushhead: | if you're running local backends on each set |
| [15:07:56] | brushhead: | then response times become much better |
| [15:07:57] | wagnerrp: | well if youre running a dozen or more sets, i wouldnt bother with multicast or livetv at all |
| [15:08:27] | wagnerrp: | have one tuner per channel, and rewrite the scheduler to simply record everything |
| [15:08:42] | brushhead: | can that be done? |
| [15:09:04] | wagnerrp: | as it stands, the scheduler is not designed for 'record everything' |
| [15:09:15] | brushhead: | no that's what I though |
| [15:09:17] | brushhead: | t |
| [15:09:18] | wagnerrp: | it would work, but since it would be scheduling each individual show |
| [15:09:22] | wagnerrp: | it would be inefficient |
| [15:09:43] | wagnerrp: | and considering its a single threaded task, running before every recording |
| [15:09:43] | EvilGuru: | "FilterManager: Failed to load filter 'yadifdeint', no such filter exists" |
| [15:09:48] | wagnerrp: | that would add up to quite a bit |
| [15:09:51] | EvilGuru: | where should I report such a frontend bug? |
| [15:10:02] | EvilGuru: | as it is for the Mac version so is probably nothing to do with mythtv |
| [15:11:05] | brushhead: | yes it would be.... |
| [15:11:21] | brushhead: | anyway, have to go and take my daughter out now...thank you... |
| [15:11:24] | wagnerrp: | anyway, IMHO, that would be the simplest solution |
| [15:11:39] | wagnerrp: | get one or more backends, depending on however many tuners you need |
| [15:11:49] | wagnerrp: | and hook the whole thing up to a SAN with a few dozen TB |
| [15:11:49] | brushhead: | yes better idea |
| [15:12:09] | wagnerrp: | record all tv, all the time, keep maybe a week of everything, a month of primetime shows and movies |
| [15:12:46] | wagnerrp: | now the backend protocol is not likely to scale to dozens of frontends even on a beefy machine |
| [15:13:15] | wagnerrp: | so there would need to be something implemented to balance the frontends across multiple backends |
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| [15:14:07] | iamlindoro: | Heh, someone should tell the "why can't I use unlike myth versions with each other" guy on the list that I've made sure his windows app won't work with .25 ;) |
| [15:16:49] | wagnerrp: | someone should spend the $80-$100k and develop mythtv into a VOD service for hotels |
| [15:16:58] | wagnerrp: | so they stop coming in here and asking all the same questions |
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| [15:24:41] | iamlindoro: | It's the dream of taking something for free and making a fortune off of it, without taking any time to understand how that thing works... as ever |
| [15:41:57] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, it seems sane enough to do, and bandwidth is free |
| [15:42:24] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: well for now, im just removing the hash selection |
| [15:42:33] | wagnerrp: | if not given, it will default to the latest |
| [15:42:41] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
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| [15:55:04] | wagnerrp: | cowbutt has been busy |
| [15:55:28] | jams: | cowbutt? |
| [15:55:38] | wagnerrp: | wiki user |
| [15:56:03] | jams: | really? someone choose to use cowbutt as their username. |
| [15:56:48] | jams: | heh sure has been busy |
| [15:59:13] | wagnerrp: | hes nothing if not through |
| [16:00:43] | wagnerrp: | now if only he could implement that silence detection as a proper commercial detection method, rather than a hackish external script |
| [16:02:16] | EvilGuru: | Has commflagging changed much recently? |
| [16:02:22] | wagnerrp: | nope |
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| [16:13:36] | EvilGuru: | With the Gentoo ebuilds where do the themes come in? |
| [16:13:46] | wagnerrp: | they dont |
| [16:13:50] | EvilGuru: | As the official portage once have a themes package for them |
| [16:14:00] | wagnerrp: | themes are no longer distributed through packages |
| [16:15:00] | EvilGuru: | what is the recommended way of getting and installing themes? |
| [16:15:24] | wagnerrp: | you select from the available themes in the frontend |
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| [16:19:19] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: In my frontend I see three themes, Terra and the two mythcenter |
| [16:19:29] | wagnerrp: | in 0.24? |
| [16:19:33] | EvilGuru: | Yes |
| [16:19:51] | wagnerrp: | hit 'm', there should be an option to 'refresh downloadable themes' or something |
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| [16:24:13] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: There is, but I get an 'Error downloading package from master backend' |
| [16:25:28] | wagnerrp: | the backend downloads from the server to a central store, and then each frontend can then pull from that central store as needed |
| [16:25:37] | wagnerrp: | but there are some configurations where it doesnt quite work as intended |
| [16:25:46] | wagnerrp: | it usually goes through the second time |
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| [16:30:18] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: It has |
| [16:30:31] | EvilGuru: | Now, to figure out why the frontend crashes/hangs when I exit from playback |
| [16:30:36] | EvilGuru: | strace shows a good-ole futex |
| [16:36:55] | EvilGuru: | ...and the culprit was: Pulse Audio! Switching to /dev/dsp fixed it |
| [16:37:14] | wagnerrp: | /dev/dsp? no, you dont want to do that |
| [16:37:54] | EvilGuru: | None of the ALSA outputs felt like working, dsp does |
| [16:38:44] | EvilGuru: | I know dsp is kind of naff, but given that PA is killed by mythtv, there is only going to be mythtv outputting audio |
| [16:39:19] | wagnerrp: | right, but /dev/dsp is just an OSS output emulated by ALSA |
| [16:39:32] | wagnerrp: | the fact that it works means ALSA works |
| [16:39:45] | wagnerrp: | similarly, the fact that Pulse works also means ALSA works |
| [16:39:47] | EvilGuru: | Yeah and given that PA uses ALSA when it is running and works |
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| [16:40:58] | EvilGuru: | Does PA play with Mythtv better than it used to, or is killing still desirable? |
| [16:42:18] | wagnerrp: | it works, and it should work without the old delays it used to have |
| [16:42:25] | wagnerrp: | but using ALSA directly is still desirable |
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| [16:43:18] | EvilGuru: | Okay, I might look into that as, some of the PA features are quite nice |
| [16:43:27] | jams: | I use /dev/dsp but then again I run straight OSS |
| [16:43:30] | EvilGuru: | (I use it to shift audio from my laptop to my desktop) |
| [16:43:42] | wagnerrp: | EvilGuru: use Jack |
| [16:48:18] | EvilGuru: | Also, as a misc question, can mythtv let the wm decide where to put the mythtv window? |
| [16:48:44] | wagnerrp: | honestly, i dont know |
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| [16:59:40] | ** sphery waits for the complaints to start ** | |
| [16:59:52] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [17:00:01] | sphery: | "but I can't use --remove-new-channels because then I won't get all the new channels that my cable provider adds to my subscription daily" |
| [17:00:19] | sphery: | replied to a question on the mailing list |
| [17:00:37] | sphery: | I have a feeling that the user will say that mythfilldatabase should be changed to read his mind |
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| [17:01:05] | sphery: | rather than changing his configuration to use it the way it was designed |
| [17:02:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: btw, did you see that Atom-based servers are 4x more power efficient than Xeon :) – http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/30/seami . . . chmark_test/ |
| [17:02:54] | sphery: | (they're saying that's the case for Hadoop workloads) |
| [17:03:21] | sid3windr: | which are mostly I/O perhaps? :) |
| [17:03:34] | sphery: | heh, that would make sense |
| [17:03:59] | sphery: | so the morale of the story, "If you don't need any CPU resources, the Atom is a perfect CPU" |
| [17:04:06] | sid3windr: | I'm just guessing |
| [17:04:09] | wagnerrp: | sphery: no, they were able to cut their recurring costs by 74% |
| [17:04:12] | sid3windr: | isn't hadoop some kind of database :) |
| [17:04:32] | wagnerrp: | because they paid a big chunk down on hardware |
| [17:04:34] | sphery: | oooh, that's /very/ annoying |
| [17:04:46] | wagnerrp: | and now only had to pay power and cooling costs |
| [17:04:54] | wagnerrp: | rather than cloud server fees |
| [17:05:16] | sphery: | if I bring up a new window and try to go to the same page (that's already displayed on a tab in a window on another virtual desktop), FF5 closes the new window on this desktop--it expects me to go find the existing tab |
| [17:05:46] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i dont like that 'switch to tab' thing |
| [17:05:47] | sphery: | ah, it was a "Switch to Tab" "link" in the Awesome Bar--so if I choose the right one, it works |
| [17:05:58] | sphery: | yeah that was my first notice of it |
| [17:06:06] | sphery: | would like a "move tab here" link, though |
| [17:07:05] | sphery: | wagnerrp: but the chart shows 0.880 KWh for the SeaMicro vs 3.387 KWh for the Xeon... |
| [17:08:42] | sphery: | basically the 2nd half of the story, starting with: "On another Hadoop-related deal that SeaMicro won, the company can't talk about who the customer was but can talk about the benchmarking process it used to win the deal and what the results were." |
| [17:09:01] | wagnerrp: | the 5630 is a 40W processor, so for 650 seconds of operation at absolute maximum power, youre looking at 1.1kWh |
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| [17:10:08] | sphery: | they said 76 dual-socket, quad-core L5630s were required to complete on time |
| [17:10:14] | wagnerrp: | another 320Wh for those extra disks |
| [17:11:21] | wagnerrp: | youre just not going to suck up 11kW on chipsets and memory |
| [17:12:02] | sphery: | ah, yeah--I forgot the x2 because it's dual socket |
| [17:12:09] | wagnerrp: | thats 150W per box |
| [17:12:12] | sphery: | was wondering why I was half your calcs |
| [17:12:58] | wagnerrp: | eating up 80W on your processors, and another 200W on extra crap, on a network intensive benchmark is retarded |
| [17:13:14] | sphery: | heh |
| [17:13:28] | wagnerrp: | mapreduce tasks require a LOT of communication |
| [17:13:36] | sphery: | so a properly-designed Xeon system would be better? |
| [17:13:52] | sphery: | like many-socket versus dual? or > quad core? |
| [17:14:10] | wagnerrp: | so the high bandwidth, low latency toroidal interconnect in the Atom "supercomputer" gives it a huge advantage |
| [17:14:11] | sphery: | but like you said, if it's mainly just I/O... |
| [17:14:46] | wagnerrp: | remember when i said the hardware in that thing would put it around $50k, and a high speed interconnect would make it closer to $150k? |
| [17:14:51] | wagnerrp: | thats exactly what it gets you |
| [17:15:23] | wagnerrp: | if you filled your Xeon servers with quad socket systems, or 8/12-core chips |
| [17:15:24] | sphery: | heh |
| [17:15:30] | wagnerrp: | and linked them all up with infiniband |
| [17:15:45] | wagnerrp: | you would destroy the little Atom box |
| [17:15:49] | sphery: | nice |
| [17:15:59] | sphery: | but then you wouldn't sell any SeaMicro servers |
| [17:16:25] | sphery: | (and since The Vulture seems to be getting commissions or something, the way they talk it up...) |
| [17:16:26] | wagnerrp: | but you bottleneck them on dinky gigabit ethernet, and youre going to sit there twiddling your thumbs waiting on communication |
| [17:16:46] | wagnerrp: | they probably would have done better buying higher speed single socket Core2s |
| [17:17:11] | sphery: | besides, next year, people will be building boxes with loads of the 4.5W TDP Brazos chips ;) |
| [17:18:26] | sphery: | (rumor has it that Brazos will halve the energy usage of the AMD Zacate procs--so the 9W ones will be 4.5W and the 4W...) |
| [17:19:23] | sphery: | (and, yes, I'm completely ignoring the "app power" claims of 2W for it) |
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| [17:21:55] | sphery: | ah, guess that's really just a next-gen brazos--didn't realize the current ones are brazos |
| [17:22:20] | sphery: | oh, new one is Hondo |
| [17:22:23] | sphery: | too many names |
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| [18:01:19] | EvilGuru: | Also, this may just be me, but I've noticed a bigger delay (5–6s) when watching live tv when the program changes |
| [18:01:33] | EvilGuru: | With 0.23 is was almost transparent, but there is a several second delay with 0.24 |
| [18:01:47] | ** EvilGuru watches 24h news all day ** | |
| [18:02:36] | tgm4883: | sphery, I know you were looking at this at one point (or at least you knew who was), any recent news http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1687846 |
| [18:02:49] | wagnerrp: | there have been several complaints about that but most people dont suffer it |
| [18:03:00] | wagnerrp: | we havent figured out the cause or the setup that it results from |
| [18:04:06] | EvilGuru: | I'll try one of my other DVB-T tuners to see if it is the same |
| [18:04:37] | EvilGuru: | Is there anything I can do/submit to help the issue? |
| [18:05:37] | wagnerrp: | if you can find a cause, go ahead and report it in a ticket |
| [18:05:42] | wagnerrp: | at current, there is no ticket |
| [18:05:51] | wagnerrp: | as any ticket would be useless 'make this better' |
| [18:06:58] | sphery: | tgm4883: yeah, what wagnerrp said... I still contend it's low-level stuff on certain distros--like V4L subsystem or drivers or something |
| [18:07:14] | wagnerrp: | what i said? |
| [18:07:29] | sphery: | and we're doing the right thing--we just don't get any data from the card, so we don't write any |
| [18:07:52] | sphery: | wagnerrp: the several complaints but most people don't see the proble and havne't figured out cause |
| [18:08:15] | sphery: | though maybe you were talking to EvilGuru--in which case your comments were equally applicable |
| [18:08:23] | wagnerrp: | that was actually the issue with the several second delay while changing programs on the same channel |
| [18:08:54] | sphery: | heh, well since the answer was exactly right for tgm4883's question, I thought you were answering him :) |
| [18:11:53] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: Is there/has there been an ML topic on the issue? |
| [18:12:38] | wagnerrp: | a couple |
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| [18:14:07] | mag0o: | gah, whats the startup option for qt painter? -o painter=qt ? |
| [18:14:16] | wagnerrp: | 0.24 or 0.25? |
| [18:14:32] | mag0o: | .24 |
| [18:14:39] | wagnerrp: | -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [18:14:45] | mag0o: | ahh, thanks! |
| [18:15:47] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, well the "I can't configure MythTV properly or I won't automatically see all the new channels my cable company always gives me" |
| [18:15:53] | sphery: | complaint came in |
| [18:16:22] | sphery: | at least he didn't ask for a per-video source setting to make his misconfiguration work |
| [18:16:33] | sphery: | actually, "work" should be in quotes, there |
| [18:17:41] | wagnerrp: | i was about to say... couldnt you write a wrapper that loops through mythcommflag on each source individually |
| [18:17:49] | wagnerrp: | rather than have it loop internally |
| [18:18:07] | sphery: | yeah, but I don't want to recommend that |
| [18:18:08] | wagnerrp: | erm... mythfilldatabase |
| [18:18:23] | sphery: | though it's better than his current misconfiguration |
| [18:18:37] | sphery: | (I just don't want to argue it) |
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| [18:18:48] | wagnerrp: | i dont see a problem, with a per-source option to update channels from the data provider |
| [18:18:54] | wagnerrp: | make it a hidden option |
| [18:19:02] | wagnerrp: | if you scan on that source, it turns off |
| [18:19:04] | sphery: | we don't need more channel/video source setup option, IMHO |
| [18:19:09] | wagnerrp: | if you pull from the provider, it turns on |
| [18:19:13] | sphery: | it's already so confusing that no one can figure itout |
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| [18:19:25] | wagnerrp: | there would be nothing to figure out, it does 'the right thing' |
| [18:19:32] | wagnerrp: | as predicted by your previous behavior |
| [18:19:47] | sphery: | when is it on? |
| [18:19:58] | sphery: | some users scan, then run mfdb to match up xmltvids |
| [18:20:03] | sphery: | some users scan, then edit xmltvids |
| [18:20:14] | wagnerrp: | if you pull from the listings provider, like with analog or firewire (or cablecard) content, it turns on |
| [18:20:16] | sphery: | so we'd need it on for the users in the first approach |
| [18:20:21] | wagnerrp: | if you scan, it turns off |
| [18:20:27] | sphery: | that's basically what it does now |
| [18:20:50] | sphery: | but on a digital/analog switch |
| [18:21:13] | wagnerrp: | oh, he has an analog tuner, and only gets limited channels with it |
| [18:21:24] | sphery: | this problem, though is on his HDHR |
| [18:21:29] | wagnerrp: | but he doesnt want to limit it on SD |
| [18:21:39] | wagnerrp: | the HDHR wont be a problem since it doesnt update anything |
| [18:21:48] | sphery: | we always try to match up channels from the lineup (which /typically/ has only the channels that are available on the source) with unconfigured channels in the video source |
| [18:22:11] | wagnerrp: | it only matches if it finds a matching station identifier, right? |
| [18:22:16] | sphery: | so he has HDHR channels from the scan that aren't configured with an XMLTV ID since SD doesn't provide data for them |
| [18:22:36] | wagnerrp: | remove the station id, and it does nothing |
| [18:22:44] | sphery: | and it keeps matching them up with channels from his lineup that are only available on other inputs (the analog input or maybe the firewire) |
| [18:23:16] | sphery: | it's matching based on channum, freqid+atsc_minor_chan, or atsc_major_chan+atsc_minor_chan |
| [18:23:52] | sphery: | but the big misconfiguration is his having not-visbile channels in his firewire source that he can't get on firewire |
| [18:24:03] | sphery: | it's actually an abuse of visible |
| [18:24:15] | sphery: | which is why I want to give up arguing with him |
| [18:25:05] | sphery: | though really, mythfilldatabase --sourceid 4 --remove-new-channels and 2 runs for other sources without --remove-new-channels would work for him |
| [18:25:32] | wagnerrp: | we get that information about digital cable channels from SD? |
| [18:25:44] | sphery: | just seems an ugly hack, when really, he should be using --remove-new-channels so it doesn't put his not-firewire-accessible channels in his firewire source |
| [18:30:03] | sphery: | yeah, based on DB tables for DD data, they seem to provide stationid, callsign, stationname, affiliate, fccchannelnumber, channel (major number), and channelMinor (number) |
| [18:32:08] | wagnerrp: | sphery: who could i get to double check mythcommflag command line behavior? |
| [18:33:12] | sphery: | I could probably look through some of it |
| [18:33:17] | sphery: | though I'm definitely not an expert |
| [18:33:43] | wagnerrp: | ive got a patch mostly written that completely redoes main.cpp |
| [18:33:58] | wagnerrp: | fixing the queue ticket, and begrudgingly the skipdb ticket |
| [18:37:02] | sphery: | heh, nice (though I really hoped we'd remove that skipdb thing) |
| [18:37:02] | wagnerrp: | i still dont understand why we have that in the first place |
| [18:37:07] | sphery: | agreed |
| [18:37:22] | wagnerrp: | i mean if youre using mythtv, then use mythtv |
| [18:37:24] | sphery: | it makes our DB init much more ugly |
| [18:37:29] | sphery: | yep |
| [18:37:39] | sphery: | and if you're not using mythtv then port it yourself |
| [18:37:42] | wagnerrp: | and if youre not using mythtv, surely there is a better option than carrying around 200MB of programs and libraries just to flag commercials |
| [18:37:50] | sphery: | yeah |
| [18:38:04] | sphery: | though pretty sure they're doing make in mythcommflag, only |
| [18:38:15] | sphery: | wonder how many libs that saves... |
| [18:38:23] | wagnerrp: | 190MB of program and libraries |
| [18:38:56] | tgm4883: | sphery, sorry, had a walkup. Best thing we have so far is a user has determined a difference in the logs he has when it works and doesn't work http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11019556&postcount=25 |
| [18:39:03] | tgm4883: | not sure if that's helpful to you or not |
| [18:41:25] | sphery: | ah, cool--thanks |
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| [18:48:03] | sphery: | wonder if it could be a signal monitor thread issue causing timing problems... jpabq- thoughts on ^^^ ? (as a potential cause of the frequent 0-byte or missing recording files issue) |
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| [19:19:08] | wagnerrp: | Cardoe: kormoc forwarded me that email |
| [19:19:34] | Cardoe: | Yeah I must have screwed up your e-mail address. |
| [19:19:38] | Cardoe: | sorry about that |
| [19:19:42] | wagnerrp: | rwagner@ |
| [19:19:52] | Cardoe: | Well then yep I did. |
| [19:19:59] | wagnerrp: | anyway, thats fine with me |
| [19:20:02] | Cardoe: | I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow. |
| [19:20:08] | Cardoe: | So I'll be out of touch for a week. |
| [19:20:13] | Cardoe: | But I'd like to work more with you guys. |
| [19:20:18] | wagnerrp: | note that there is a utility in scripts that auto-generates new ebuilds |
| [19:20:32] | Cardoe: | yeah I won't pull that into the tree |
| [19:20:41] | wagnerrp: | ok, but its useful for updating |
| [19:20:45] | Cardoe: | I've actually already got a fork on github of some tweaks to you. |
| [19:20:49] | wagnerrp: | unless you intend to pull specific ebuilds from ours |
| [19:20:58] | wagnerrp: | yeah, ill take a look at that tonight |
| [19:21:03] | kormoc: | It sounds like a great plan. We'd really like to get unity behind a single tree rather then this split of crap we have now |
| [19:21:03] | Cardoe: | I intend on pulling your "stable" builds |
| [19:21:28] | Cardoe: | Unfortunately I've got to ~arch the current 0.24 ebuilds you've got. |
| [19:21:37] | Cardoe: | The whole rules of Gentoo for straight to stable and such. |
| [19:21:43] | kormoc: | I should ditch the experimental flag |
| [19:21:51] | Cardoe: | And for some reason not all the parts of libwww-perl are stable in Gentoo either |
| [19:21:54] | Cardoe: | So I'll make that happen |
| [19:21:59] | kormoc: | snaz |
| [19:22:06] | wagnerrp: | we only need libwww-perl5, not 6 |
| [19:22:19] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [19:22:24] | Cardoe: | Well that's an easy tweak then |
| [19:22:26] | wagnerrp: | (i think) |
| [19:22:30] | Cardoe: | I can test it |
| [19:22:35] | Cardoe: | and confirm |
| [19:22:46] | Cardoe: | I like how you guys made a bindings ebuild |
| [19:22:48] | Cardoe: | That's a good idea |
| [19:22:56] | wagnerrp: | well it was a needed idea |
| [19:23:07] | wagnerrp: | mythweb wont run without the php bindings |
| [19:23:29] | Cardoe: | Well previously you had to install mythtv in its entirely on your web server |
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| [19:23:48] | wagnerrp: | previously you didnt need mythtv at all, mythweb was an independent entity |
| [19:24:11] | Cardoe: | hmm. So its totally coupled to the bindings. Cool. |
| [19:24:34] | Cardoe: | That'll provide an abstraction layer to prevent people from mucking with the protocol directly |
| [19:25:24] | wagnerrp: | basically, it was the same thing that happened to nuvexport |
| [19:25:32] | wagnerrp: | nuvexport was gutted to create the perl bindings |
| [19:25:41] | wagnerrp: | mythweb was gutted to create the php bindings |
| [19:27:56] | wagnerrp: | so what are these rules for the stable arch moniker? |
| [19:28:04] | wagnerrp: | do you have a link i could read through? |
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| [19:31:33] | sphery: | wagnerrp: ok, I'm going to send a reply that mentions the mfdb wrapper approach |
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| [19:55:16] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: nuvexport can use more gutting to build up the perl bindings more too :) |
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| [20:08:15] | wagnerrp: | arent two or three people supposed to be rewriting the perl bindings from scratch? |
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| [20:11:26] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [20:11:29] | Beirdo: | so I thought |
| [20:11:40] | Beirdo: | !seen nutron |
| [20:11:40] | MythLogBot: | nutron was last seen 129 days 7 hours 54 minutes 52 seconds ago |
| [20:11:46] | Beirdo: | ugh |
| [20:12:18] | wagnerrp: | dont look at me, i write python because i cant stand to look at perl |
| [20:12:20] | Beirdo: | someone (don't recall who) told him not to bother yet because the API was going to change... which it barely has |
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| [20:12:41] | Beirdo: | it's on my list to redo the perl bindings though |
| [20:13:05] | wagnerrp: | well the api did change, back in march or so |
| [20:13:13] | wagnerrp: | unless youre talking about the schema stuff |
| [20:13:32] | iamlindoro: | I change my mind about reordering protocol arguments-- we should do it every single release |
| [20:13:38] | Beirdo: | but even then, it wouldn't have been to hard to readjust |
| [20:13:46] | iamlindoro: | It's a much better way of enforcing implementing the actual protocol |
| [20:13:51] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [20:13:59] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: you are evil! I like it. |
| [20:14:12] | wagnerrp: | did you just get some complaints from someone? |
| [20:15:07] | iamlindoro: | No, I'm just reading the "why can't mythfrontend just be like mythplayer" thread |
| [20:15:20] | wagnerrp: | oh |
| [20:15:28] | iamlindoro: | where I just responded that when someone, say me, reorders programinfo, they risk not working, or corrupting the DB entirely |
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| [20:15:54] | Beirdo: | aye, so true |
| [20:17:41] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:17:58] | Beirdo: | gonna record a Beastie Boys concert off the Documentary Channel |
| [20:18:20] | Beirdo: | that just strikes me as odd |
| [20:19:27] | Beirdo: | entitles... Awesome, I F...in' Shot That! |
| [20:19:33] | Beirdo: | entitled rather |
| [20:19:38] | Beirdo: | nice. Sigh. |
| [20:20:19] | Beirdo: | and I'm 5 days off having my oldest recording be a year old |
| [20:20:29] | Beirdo: | last year's MLB All-Star game |
| [20:21:06] | Beirdo: | gotta be sure to record this year too |
| [20:21:20] | wagnerrp: | well thats just because you lost the drive with all those recordings from 2006 |
| [20:21:45] | Beirdo: | actually, I think I still have it, just never bothered to import it |
| [20:22:47] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | it's on the 2TB external drive hooked to my devel box |
| [20:23:15] | wagnerrp: | that reminds me, i need to buy another hard drive |
| [20:23:21] | Beirdo: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root 999 2337493664 2005-05–13 19:00 3007_20050513210000_20050513220000.nuv |
| [20:23:23] | wagnerrp: | getting low on room |
| [20:23:27] | Beirdo: | oldest one on there |
| [20:23:33] | wagnerrp: | eew... thats a real old one |
| [20:23:44] | Beirdo: | before renaming to the shorter filenames :0 |
| [20:23:51] | wagnerrp: | either before my time, or before i cared to know what mythtv stored files as |
| [20:24:31] | Beirdo: | I should go through those sometime, give me some good test recordings for denoising, etc |
| [20:24:57] | wagnerrp: | or both, i didnt pick up my PVR-150 until some time late 2005 |
| [20:25:02] | wagnerrp: | certainly well after may |
| [20:25:05] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [20:25:31] | wagnerrp: | you know, you should have held off on the logging stuff in mythcommflag |
| [20:25:31] | Beirdo: | I should punt those over to the freebsd fileserver sometime |
| [20:25:40] | Beirdo: | why? |
| [20:25:52] | wagnerrp: | because i rewrote half of main.cpp |
| [20:25:56] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [20:25:58] | Beirdo: | so sorry |
| [20:26:00] | wagnerrp: | and now ill have to deal with the merge... :) |
| [20:26:11] | Beirdo: | bad timing. |
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| [20:26:33] | wagnerrp: | yeah, because i rewrote it last night before you committed |
| [20:26:33] | Beirdo: | you could force me to do it again. hehe |
| [20:26:49] | Beirdo: | you'd still have to deal with the merge though |
| [20:27:07] | Beirdo: | bad timing, sorry man. |
| [20:27:41] | wagnerrp: | no worries, its only a handful of them to fix |
| [20:28:18] | Beirdo: | were you planning on attacking one of the others tonight, so I know which one to skip? |
| [20:28:28] | wagnerrp: | one of the others? |
| [20:29:11] | Beirdo: | other binaries |
| [20:29:27] | Beirdo: | I'll probably hit up the next in the programs/ dir |
| [20:29:51] | Beirdo: | oooh fun. mythfilldatabase |
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| [20:30:21] | wagnerrp: | no, this was to fix #9152, and... some other ticket i dont know of off hand |
| [20:30:50] | wagnerrp: | 515 |
| [20:30:53] | wagnerrp: | 9515 |
| [20:31:14] | Beirdo: | OK. Didn't mean to cause ya more work, just wanted to avoid repeating :) |
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| [20:37:23] | mag0o: | when working with acpi wakeup, how exactly does the remote frontend wake up the backend when it's sleeping? I don't see that on the wiki page anywhere, unless I just missed it. |
| [20:37:36] | wagnerrp: | WOL |
| [20:38:27] | mag0o: | ok |
| [20:39:19] | wagnerrp: | LOG_EMERG? ency? |
| [20:39:51] | mag0o: | thanks wagnerrp, found that page too |
| [20:40:11] | wagnerrp: | the frontend stores the MAC of the backend... somewhere |
| [20:40:18] | wagnerrp: | not sure on where, never figured that one out |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | LOG_EMERG is the top level yeah |
| [20:45:14] | Beirdo: | We can move things around though |
| [20:48:28] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: you around? or someone else good with sql? |
| [20:49:22] | Beirdo: | I think #9152 was a design decision, not really a bug |
| [20:49:30] | Beirdo: | but an odd one |
| [20:49:40] | wagnerrp: | ive got a query, "select r.chanid, r.starttime, c.commmethod from recorded as r join channel as c on r.chanid=c.chanid order by starttime" |
| [20:49:57] | wagnerrp: | is there any way to get that to display recordings even when there is no matching channel? |
| [20:50:28] | wagnerrp: | right now, i have a separate query that i have to do for each recording to get commmethod |
| [20:51:17] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: well with the rewrite, its a handful of lines to get the desired behavior |
| [20:51:34] | wagnerrp: | im assuming it wasnt a design decision, more a lapse |
| [20:51:38] | wagnerrp: | someone just didnt even think about it |
| [20:52:59] | Beirdo: | hmm, that could be too |
| [20:54:56] | Beirdo: | OK, now I'll be getting a large influx of IEEE mail again |
| [20:54:57] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:55:02] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, SELECT r.chanid, r.starttime, c.commmethod FROM recorded AS r LEFT JOIN channel AS c ON r.chanid=c.chanid ORDER BY starttime |
| [20:55:11] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, c.* will just be NULL on missing channels |
| [20:55:35] | wagnerrp: | is that special behavior of LEFT JOIN? |
| [20:55:55] | kormoc: | Aye |
| [20:56:03] | kormoc: | (and RIGHT JOIN) |
| [21:00:50] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: sorry. I disappeared. |
| [21:01:54] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: the stable mark is set by the various architecture stability groups in Gentoo. Basically for MythTV the x86 and amd64 guys build a test build of MythTV and bring it up and confirm it works and mark it stable. |
| [21:02:19] | wagnerrp: | so it just has to build |
| [21:02:31] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: in your repo, if you want to do a very very basic check (basically what happens before anything is committed to Portage) run "repoman check" |
| [21:02:51] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: They build it and bring up a backend and go through mythtv-setup |
| [21:03:05] | Cardoe: | or I should say run setup and then bring up a backend |
| [21:03:07] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [21:03:09] | Cardoe: | no tuners |
| [21:03:23] | wagnerrp: | well you cant bring up the backend with no tuners (at current) |
| [21:03:38] | wagnerrp: | it will run, but will immediately close |
| [21:03:56] | Cardoe: | I think its using an HDHomeRun maybe. |
| [21:04:01] | Beirdo: | other than the "dummy" tuner, no? |
| [21:04:17] | Cardoe: | I think we've confirmed some "dummy" tuner we can use. |
| [21:04:54] | Cardoe: | We use a short MPEG video as well dropped into the configured videos directory |
| [21:05:01] | Cardoe: | and confirm it plays via MythVideo |
| [21:05:20] | Cardoe: | Its obviously a very minimal test |
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| [21:06:22] | wagnerrp: | well there is no longer a mythvideo, but playback can be tested with mythavtest |
| [21:08:05] | Cardoe: | I'll have to tinker with that. |
| [21:08:17] | Cardoe: | I haven't messed with the test procedures for a long long long time. |
| [21:08:38] | Cardoe: | Typically those guys confirm it builds with everything that's marked stable and works |
| [21:08:40] | Cardoe: | and passes make test |
| [21:08:47] | Cardoe: | if the package has a set of tests |
| [21:09:04] | Cardoe: | When it doesn't have a set of tests, we come up with a test procedure. |
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| [21:24:00] | wagnerrp: | sphery: http://www.wagnerrp.com/files/MythTV/mythcommflag.reorder.patch if you wanted to read through it |
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| [21:40:21] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: is mythtv-themes gone btw? |
| [21:40:32] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: they're dynamically downloaded now? |
| [21:41:04] | wagnerrp: | yes, yes |
| [21:53:02] | wagnerrp: | technically, the repo still exists |
| [21:53:16] | wagnerrp: | but users are supposed to get content through the internal downloader |
| [22:00:45] | Muzer: | hmm |
| [22:01:20] | Muzer: | why did it force me off my channel when a recording was scheduled, even though that recording was on the same mux as my current channel? |
| [22:01:38] | Muzer: | told it to return to the menu, then waited for recording to start and returned to live TV, seems fine |
| [22:01:41] | Muzer: | just generally weird |
| [22:01:49] | Muzer: | (i'll check the recording after this programme ends) |
| [22:03:59] | wagnerrp: | odd |
| [22:04:05] | wagnerrp: | just got a segfault in mythcommflag |
| [22:04:15] | wagnerrp: | tried to trace it down, couldnt find anything that should be causing it |
| [22:04:20] | wagnerrp: | second time, it ran fine |
| [22:05:46] | Cardoe: | Not that this is worth anything |
| [22:06:01] | Cardoe: | But I occasionally see mythcommflag segfault |
| [22:06:42] | Cardoe: | Like 12 times in a few month time frame. |
| [22:06:42] | wagnerrp: | but this wasnt even doing anything |
| [22:06:48] | wagnerrp: | it was using the --queue flag |
| [22:06:55] | wagnerrp: | which adds a job to the queue and exits |
| [22:06:56] | Muzer: | sorry, did I have a reply? (In fact, did you even see my original message?) |
| [22:06:58] | Muzer: | my wifi died |
| [22:07:04] | wagnerrp: | it faulted trying to access the databse |
| [22:07:10] | wagnerrp: | Muzer: no, yes |
| [22:12:26] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: I've tried many times to run it through gdb and I can never capture it |
| [22:12:38] | wagnerrp: | no core dump? |
| [22:12:50] | Cardoe: | wagnerrp: A valgrind run might be helpful |
| [22:14:12] | Cardoe: | I haven't had it happen since I remembered to set ulimit -c unlimited |
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| [22:20:40] | Muzer: | hmm |
| [22:21:03] | Muzer: | just realised Myth's even more limited than I realised at inter-mux recordings |
| [22:22:04] | Muzer: | it only "thinks" it has two tuners, so it'll only view/record up to two channels on one mux, even if two of the channels are the same one (ie concurrent recordings with extra time added onto the beginning or end) |
| [22:26:17] | Muzer: | which, tbh, is a bit messed up |
| [22:26:46] | Muzer: | I think an overhaul is probably required there – it needs to know that channels on the same transport stream (to use the generic name) can be accessed using only one tuner. |
| [22:27:04] | wagnerrp: | it only thinks it has two tuners if you only tell it to spawn two tuners |
| [22:27:13] | wagnerrp: | it supports up to five, two is default |
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| [22:27:57] | Muzer: | well, I don't see why the multiple tuner paradigm is even needed for that – it seems unnecessary and limiting. |
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| [22:28:00] | wagnerrp: | an overhaul would be nice, but the existing system works fine for anything but livetv |
| [22:28:13] | Muzer: | should be reserved for actual multiple tuners :p |
| [22:28:19] | wagnerrp: | and its not a trivial thing to reconcile with the scheduler |
| [22:28:32] | Muzer: | ah, does the scheduler not know about transport streams? |
| [22:28:59] | wagnerrp: | the scheduler knows enough that those two tuners must operate on the same transport |
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| [22:29:14] | Muzer: | hmm |
| [22:29:16] | wagnerrp: | but theres a LOT of code based around a tuner only being able to be used one at a time |
| [22:29:21] | Muzer: | ah, right |
| [22:29:38] | wagnerrp: | multiple virtual tuners was by far the simple solution to that problem |
| [22:29:56] | wagnerrp: | perhaps if we rewrote the whole thing, it could be managed in a more intelligent manner |
| [22:29:59] | wagnerrp: | but who has the time |
| [22:30:12] | Muzer: | exactly |
| [22:30:31] | Muzer: | I was just making sure that other people shared my view that it needs an overhaul if there is time, that I'm not some crazy guy :p |
| [22:31:01] | Muzer: | yeah, I assume that would have been coded back in the days of analogue when there was one channel per transport :P |
| [22:31:09] | wagnerrp: | i wouldnt say 'needs', but rather 'it would be nice' |
| [22:31:42] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, it only has problems when trying to use livetv |
| [22:31:51] | Muzer: | yeah, so, temporary solution would just be to spawn the maximum virtual tuners. |
| [22:31:53] | wagnerrp: | and you should know by now how most of the devs feel about livetv |
| [22:31:57] | Muzer: | heh |
| [22:32:14] | wagnerrp: | however, the more tuners you have, the more tuners the scheduler has to deal with, and the longer you scheduling runs take |
| [22:32:18] | Muzer: | well, what if you want to record (1+maximum virtual tuners) streams? A bit of an unrealistic case, I know, but still :p |
| [22:32:24] | Muzer: | wagnerrp: oh, I see |
| [22:32:43] | wagnerrp: | if you want to record 6 streams on the same mux, well then you have to use two tuners |
| [22:33:18] | Muzer: | yeah. Well, fair enough |
| [22:33:31] | wagnerrp: | that limit of five is based on issues with underperforming tuner card that struggle pulling large quantities of streams out |
| [22:33:53] | Muzer: | My only source other than livetv on my single-tuner card is a very unstable PVR that I rarely use any more. |
| [22:33:58] | wagnerrp: | there is good reason beyond just limitations on the scheduler |
| [22:34:02] | Muzer: | though I suppose I could try formatting it, I don't think that's ever been done |
| [22:34:27] | Muzer: | wagnerrp: oh? I was under the impression that the entire mux was pulled out of the card and dealt with in software. Was that assumption incorrect? |
| [22:35:05] | wagnerrp: | you send multiple PID filters to the card |
| [22:35:13] | wagnerrp: | and the card only sends back the specific streams you want |
| [22:35:32] | Muzer: | oh, didn't realise it was that much in the hardware |
| [22:40:46] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: 800fps commflagging on a 720p file? that cant possibly be right can it? |
| [22:40:59] | wagnerrp: | 720p mpeg2, ~13mbps |
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| [22:44:15] | devinheitmueller: | Muzer: varies by hardware. In designs that don't have a hardware PID filter, the PID filtering gets done in the DVB demux kernel driver. |
| [22:44:58] | devinheitmueller: | .... either way though, the API is the same from a userland perspective, so it cannot tell the difference... |
| [22:46:01] | Beirdo: | yeah, that can |
| [22:46:27] | wagnerrp: | but i shouldnt even be able to decode that fast |
| [22:46:31] | Beirdo: | MPEG2 is quite fast at commflagging as we can do sampling at half frame size while decoding |
| [22:46:54] | wagnerrp: | while decoding? so you only decode a quarter of the image? |
| [22:46:58] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [22:47:01] | wagnerrp: | i thought subsampling was done after decoding |
| [22:47:10] | wagnerrp: | thats pretty cool |
| [22:47:21] | Beirdo: | that was the experimental stuff that went in in 0.24 |
| [22:47:41] | Beirdo: | unfortunately, ffmpeg won't subsample decode H.264 |
| [22:48:27] | wagnerrp: | well i think ive gotten out all the segfualts |
| [22:48:31] | Beirdo: | yay! |
| [22:48:41] | Beirdo: | QSqlDatabasePrivate::removeDatabase: connection 'DBManager0' is still in use, all queries will cease to work. |
| [22:48:45] | Beirdo: | grrrrr |
| [22:48:57] | Beirdo: | dangit, nothing is using the database there. Stop lying to me |
| [22:49:00] | wagnerrp: | now i just have to figure out what changes i made in my backend, before moving them to my development branch |
| [22:49:26] | wagnerrp: | also, im getting all these "Error in my_thread_global_end(): 1 threads didn't exit" |
| [22:49:34] | wagnerrp: | not a problem, just a nuisance |
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| [22:49:39] | Beirdo: | you'll get those still |
| [22:49:41] | Beirdo: | sometimes |
| [22:49:53] | wagnerrp: | i get it like every time |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | that happens if the thread that opens the database connection is not the same thread that closes is |
| [22:50:03] | Beirdo: | it |
| [22:50:17] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [22:50:19] | Beirdo: | so if the thread opening it is not the corecontext thread, you'll get that |
| [22:50:42] | Beirdo: | and if you're working with commflag, there's the programupdater that opens one |
| [22:50:45] | wagnerrp: | whoops, seems im missing the code to close out the job |
| [22:51:02] | wagnerrp: | so if you run the job manually on the command line, the jobqueue never closes it out behind it |
| [22:51:13] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [22:51:14] | wagnerrp: | leaving the entry running with 99% completed |
| [22:51:16] | Beirdo: | that's not good :) |
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| [23:02:50] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: 800fps commflagging, 500fps building the seek table? |
| [23:03:10] | wagnerrp: | oh, it got picked up by the remote backend, nevermind |
| [23:03:13] | Beirdo: | that does seem backwards |
| [23:03:15] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [23:03:16] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [23:03:25] | wagnerrp: | man, thats quite a hit |
| [23:03:29] | wagnerrp: | it does 2000fps locally |
| [23:03:39] | Beirdo: | that sounds more like it |
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| [23:22:32] | wagnerrp: | j-rod: this is open source, we cant afford $20/hr contractors |
| [23:22:34] | wagnerrp: | :P |
| [23:22:59] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:24:18] | wagnerrp: | ok, pushed... hopefully CRAP! |
| [23:24:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ok, I know I've been 'off the grid' for a while now, but 2000fps??? Is that using GPU acceleration? |
| [23:25:53] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [23:26:08] | Beirdo: | that's to rebuild the seek table, and it's purely CPU |
| [23:26:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | Jeeze, that's fast. |
| [23:26:26] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [23:26:29] | ** J-e-f-f-A is very impressed. ** | |
| [23:26:34] | Beirdo: | it just hums along ;) |
| [23:27:04] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: you fixed skipdb?! |
| [23:27:06] | Beirdo: | grrr |
| [23:27:08] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:27:12] | Beirdo: | I wanted to get rid of it |
| [23:27:22] | ** J-e-f-f-A laughs! ** | |
| [23:27:25] | wagnerrp: | the ticket is closed, feel free to lock it and then remove skipdb |
| [23:27:37] | Beirdo: | na, it's OK |
| [23:27:49] | Beirdo: | we'll rip it out some other decade |
| [23:31:30] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: well in any case, the line he uses will no longer work |
| [23:31:33] | wagnerrp: | so he wont be happy |
| [23:31:48] | wagnerrp: | (taking iamlindoro's method of passive aggressive discouragement) |
| [23:32:25] | wagnerrp: | --video no explicitly means something in videometadata, so database access is enforced |
| [23:32:32] | wagnerrp: | if you want --skipdb, you have to use --file |
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| [23:33:05] | Beirdo: | that sounds reasonable to me |
| [23:33:47] | Beirdo: | just more messy code that does us little good, but if it's fixed, it can stay until it gets borked again, and then we revisit the issue |
| [23:34:36] | Beirdo: | now, I'm trying to determine WHY mythtranscode contains a ProgramInfoUpdater thread |
| [23:34:47] | Beirdo: | that makes zero sense to me |
| [23:35:07] | Beirdo: | I guess if you are actually transcoding, it could be sensible, maybe |
| [23:35:27] | Beirdo: | but in the fifo modes, etc... it shouldn't be running |
| [23:35:45] | Beirdo: | I think that might be why it's saying the db is still in use on shutdown, but I'm not 100% yet |
| [23:37:13] | wagnerrp: | J-e-f-f-A: commercial flagging itself was only 800fps |
| [23:40:31] | wagnerrp: | in a victory for the world in general, british tabloid is closing after scandal of hacking voice mail account |
| [23:40:36] | Beirdo: | what CPU are you abusing there, BTW? |
| [23:41:16] | wagnerrp: | 3.3Ghz Phenom II X2 |
| [23:41:21] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [23:42:05] | Beirdo: | 2011-07–07 15:58:35.283320 I [16980/17018] ProgramInfoUpdater mythdbcon.cpp:312 (popConnection) – New DB connection, total: 2 |
| [23:42:08] | Beirdo: | booo! |
| [23:42:13] | wagnerrp: | it was $30 more expensive than the 2.9GHz Ath II i was going to buy, and came with $40 off with a motherboard |
| [23:42:20] | Beirdo: | I need to slap this into submission tonight |
| [23:42:48] | Beirdo: | not bad, so you got it for $10 off, net. |
| [23:43:15] | wagnerrp: | well i ended up in the hole, since it was a more expensive motherboard too |
| [23:43:31] | Beirdo: | fair enough |
| [23:44:04] | Beirdo: | heh, thanks for cleaning up the cerrs :) |
| [23:44:04] | wagnerrp: | but it was either a cheaper board with only one PCIe slot and no onboard video (meaning no video since my raid card takes up that slot) |
| [23:44:28] | wagnerrp: | or a crossfire board with onboard video |
| [23:44:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that was the strange 'CRAP!' |
| [23:44:45] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:44:54] | wagnerrp: | right as i hit push, i rememebered about those |
| [23:48:37] | Beirdo: | OK, this should tell me how it's getting started up |
| [23:48:46] | Beirdo: | I put assert(0); |
| [23:48:48] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:48:53] | Beirdo: | die HARD. |
| [23:49:20] | wagnerrp: | ER |
| [23:49:28] | Beirdo: | that too :) |
| [23:49:39] | Beirdo: | then I can use the core, Luke. |
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| [23:51:24] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [23:51:29] | Beirdo: | that told me nothing |
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| [23:55:58] | Beirdo: | put it in the wrong place :) |
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| [23:56:18] | Beirdo: | Oh crap |
| [23:56:19] | tlhiv: | hi folks ... when i go to "Media Library->Listen to Music" it starts playing automatically and i would like for it to wait until i select the song i would like to play |
| [23:56:30] | Beirdo: | it's the "MarkAsInUse" that's requiring it |
| [23:56:32] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [23:57:18] | Beirdo: | which means I am likely exiting while it's trying to mark the show as NOT in use |
| [23:58:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: wow... 800fps commflagging?!? Now if we could just h.264 faster... ;-) |
| [23:59:37] | Beirdo: | tell me about it |
| [23:59:47] | tlhiv: | basically, when i choose "Listen to Music" i would like to be presented with a directory tree and when i select the song that i want to play, i would like for it to play that song and every successive song in that albumn directory |
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