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| [00:37:12] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro, sphery: Documented how to attach to a running process in order to create a backtrace with gdb – http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging#Attachin . . . ning_process |
| [00:38:09] | sphery: | skd5aner: thanks |
| [00:38:58] | skd5aner: | np – I can try and put together an actual patch for section 22.2 of the docs, but will likely put that off for a day or 2 – will submit a ticket with attached patch when it's ready |
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| [00:44:18] | skd5aner: | ... since that's what the trac ticket how-to links to (not the wiki page) |
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| [01:02:33] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: after some fine work with a hacksaw and a new powersupply: http://pastebin.com/zm5ytixa |
| [01:03:11] | Beirdo: | had to trim the plastic cowling at the bottom corner... it was hitting the CPU cowling |
| [01:03:13] | sphery: | where's the pic? |
| [01:03:26] | sphery: | :) |
| [01:03:29] | Beirdo: | and trim off top and bottom tabs on the second backplate |
| [01:03:31] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:03:39] | Beirdo: | I didn't take one, but I should |
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| [02:05:44] | Beirdo: | http://pastebin.com/pXiHgci2 |
| [02:05:57] | Beirdo: | interesting. but about what I expected |
| [02:06:15] | Beirdo: | the first is 16X PCIE, the second 1X PCIE |
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| [02:10:44] | digitalstimulus: | does anyone have any recommendations for clearing mythvideo information and redownloading? I have over 2000 video files in mythvideo and lately many seem to not have the correct metadata/artwork. I've found the artwork location and would like to just completely re-update everything from scratch if possible |
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| [02:11:39] | digitalstimulus: | specifically, I want to dump just mythvideo information and keep all my recordings information in the database |
| [02:14:39] | sphery: | digitalstimulus: best approach is to remove all the directories you've set up for mythvideo, then set up one directory pointing to an empty dir, rescan, then re-set up your proper directories |
| [02:16:04] | digitalstimulus: | sphery, I think I have done that in the past for a different reason. Thanks |
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| [02:16:19] | digitalstimulus: | sphery, I can easily dump any remaining garbage manually if there is some |
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| [02:18:10] | sphery: | digitalstimulus: yeah, there shouldn't be any garbage in the DB... if you'd like to delete all the images from your banners and fanart and posters and ... dirs, feel free to do so |
| [02:18:24] | digitalstimulus: | sphery, have you had this happen before? |
| [02:18:25] | sphery: | btw, you don't need to un-configure those dirs--just the video dirs |
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| [02:19:36] | sphery: | haven't had it mix things up, but I have made a mess of my videos and cleared the db so I could redo them properly |
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| [02:20:17] | digitalstimulus: | ah. I'm running whatever the latest in mythbuntu repositories is. It seems to be very unstable |
| [02:20:29] | digitalstimulus: | but not unstable enough for me to re-setup a more stable one |
| [02:21:17] | sphery: | latest 0.24-fixes in http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos ? It should be stable |
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| [02:21:40] | sphery: | now if you have the latest unstable/development/0.25-pre/whatever they call it, that could be unstable |
| [02:21:45] | digitalstimulus: | I have a problem where when using mythvideo it will crash if I try and move around too fast |
| [02:21:49] | digitalstimulus: | 24.1 I believe |
| [02:22:03] | sphery: | yeah, that would be 0.24-fixes |
| [02:22:49] | digitalstimulus: | It also seems to load background images for the menus very slowly. however a frontend on my desktop is very fast connecting to same backend |
| [02:22:50] | sphery: | I think there might be a ticket about that--something to do with a mythui bug |
| [02:23:19] | digitalstimulus: | I've noticed if I let the background image load and wait a second or two, I can continue on |
| [02:24:10] | sphery: | perhaps http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9620 |
| [02:24:24] | sphery: | are you using browse mode? if so, you might want to switch to a different one |
| [02:29:00] | digitalstimulus: | I don't think I am using browse mode |
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| [02:33:22] | sphery: | digitalstimulus: ok, I think you're seeing http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9708 , which is almost definitely the same as http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9547 |
| [02:34:04] | digitalstimulus: | sphery, were you talking about unsetting the videos storage group in mythbackend for resetting the mythvideo stuff? |
| [02:34:36] | sphery: | digitalstimulus: yeah, assuming you were using storage group config |
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| [02:47:41] | GWG: | I'm having some trouble with surround sound settings |
| [02:48:12] | GWG: | I'm not sure I'm getting a surround mix. The receiver says PCM and I only hear 2 channel audio |
| [02:49:13] | [R]: | then you're not getting surroudn |
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| [02:51:27] | sphery: | I'm getting bored drivin' up and down the same old strip. I gotta find a new place where the kids are hip. My buddies and me are gettin' real well known. Yeah, the bad guys know us and they leave us alone. I get surround, round, round, round. I get surround... |
| [02:51:48] | GWG: | [R]: Exactly. But I can't figure out why. |
| [02:51:51] | skd5aner: | great song... |
| [02:51:54] | sphery: | (Actually, I only have 2-channel stereo analog out, but you guys got the song stuck in my head.) |
| [02:51:59] | skd5aner: | but now that's gonna be stuck in my head |
| [02:52:06] | sphery: | heh, they started it |
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| [02:52:23] | wagnerrp: | dont you have a giant tv? |
| [02:52:42] | GWG: | I'm just not sure where to look. The HDMI out has several different outputs that MythTV finds, this is the nly one that actually sends noise |
| [02:54:24] | wagnerrp: | why do movies and TV always have someone pointing a gun at someone else, making them dig their own grave? |
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| [02:54:35] | wagnerrp: | i mean wheres the incentive |
| [02:54:46] | [R]: | lol |
| [02:55:11] | [R]: | because the good guy digging the grave is going to smack the bad guy with the shovel |
| [02:55:15] | [R]: | and have him fall in |
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| [03:23:50] | Beirdo: | if you're digging your own grave, that means they are gonna kill you regardless... so why not resist and make THEM dig :) |
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| [03:31:28] | knightr: | Beirdo, Hi! I need help... I made a mistake on my copy of the git repo, how do I cancel all my commits and reupdate myself with the github repo? |
| [03:31:55] | knightr: | (they haven't been pushed, they are still here...) |
| [03:32:27] | Beirdo: | you committed locally? |
| [03:32:39] | knightr: | yep... |
| [03:32:50] | Beirdo: | find the sha1 of the commit before what you want to remove |
| [03:32:52] | knightr: | but noticed something wrong when I checked the status... |
| [03:33:01] | Beirdo: | then 'git reset sha1' |
| [03:33:11] | knightr: | Beirdo, ah, thank you!!! |
| [03:33:18] | Beirdo: | at that point everything you changed will be there as changes |
| [03:33:38] | Beirdo: | and if you want to lose the changes, do git reset --hard after that |
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| [03:33:53] | knightr: | Thank you so much!!! |
| [03:34:46] | Beirdo: | no problemo |
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| [10:00:59] | lapion: | does anyone get duplicate files in the LiveTV recording list when zapping between analog channels ? |
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| [11:52:54] | Giggel: | hi |
| [11:55:13] | Giggel: | my listings for half of the tv programs won't update. I set all to use the on air guide |
| [11:56:41] | Giggel: | i rescanned channels a while ago and since then it's just NO DATA |
| [11:57:28] | Giggel: | anythting I can do? it doesn't need mythfilldatabase if it's using the on air guide, right? |
| [11:59:57] | sphery: | correct, mythfilldatabase is only required for users of XMLTV or Schedules Direct |
| [12:00:22] | sphery: | it sounds like you may want to rescan the transports with those channels |
| [12:05:13] | Giggel: | hm, i've got a couple of spare channels which I clicked invisible because they were double. maybe i'll try those |
| [12:05:21] | Giggel: | they have a different freqid in mythweb |
| [12:06:48] | Giggel: | ah, yay the guide is back |
| [12:07:15] | sphery: | double channels that /should/ be there (because they're transmitted twice) or actual duplicates of the same channel? |
| [12:07:40] | sphery: | if the latter, you really need to delete the broken duplicate |
| [12:07:57] | Giggel: | I think they're transmitted twice |
| [12:08:03] | Giggel: | I only ran a full scan once |
| [12:08:12] | sphery: | ok, for that, not visible is fine |
| [12:08:19] | Giggel: | it did show a couple of conflicting channels, those were the ones I made invisible |
| [12:08:36] | sphery: | yeah, you could get duplicates with only one full re-scan, if you don't clear out existing channels first |
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| [12:08:46] | sphery: | (could get bad duplicates, that is) |
| [12:09:13] | Giggel: | I deleted everything first |
| [12:09:21] | Giggel: | still got duplicates |
| [12:10:43] | Giggel: | hm, i'll delete the broken ones anyway |
| [12:11:32] | Giggel: | also, I picked up a couple of MPEG channels. any idea what that could be? it can't get a lock on them |
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| [12:15:46] | Giggel: | anyway, thanks for help, sphery |
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| [12:35:47] | sphery: | Gibby: MPEG channels mean that we can't identify what type of channel it is--generally meaning it's not usable |
| [12:36:24] | sphery: | maybe an encrypted channel on which some of the data streams weren't encrypted or something? |
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| [13:26:02] | iamlindoro: | sphery, actually, MPEG simply means it does not have enough telltale signs to confirm that it is DVB versus SCTE, it does not imply that the channel is not usable at all |
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| [13:50:41] | russell5: | i try to emerge mythtv-0.24_p20110625.ebuild and i get an error while applying mythtv-v4l2-fix.2.patch the output of the patch attempt is here http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420195/ |
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| [14:00:11] | iamlindoro: | You should not be trying to apply any such patch to current MythTV |
| [14:00:41] | russell5: | it does it automaticly |
| [14:00:44] | iamlindoro: | both current fixes and master operate properly with 2.6.38 kernels, no patching required |
| [14:00:45] | russell5: | on both my systems |
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| [14:01:13] | iamlindoro: | I would find a way to make it not do so, then, it's not needed |
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| [14:01:23] | russell5: | i can do that thanks |
| [14:01:33] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [14:03:13] | russell5: | fyi the ebuild i pulled from the mythtv git overlay so maybe it should not have the patch in it |
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| [17:29:58] | Gibby: | got both my hd-pvr's verified working i can cat the video out put and watch, but in myth it is still blank |
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| [17:41:55] | wagnerrp: | sphery: actually, as soon as you that find_orphans script loops through the files to delete, it refreshes the list |
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| [17:58:11] | Korny1: | I'm sorry if this is an obvious question, is there a way to add different permiment filters to mythvideo? I'm importing a large amount of shows from Sagetv and want a way to differeniate between movies and TV shows for the wife instead of them all being lumped under video |
| [18:00:31] | wagnerrp: | you can either have mythvideo sort by your directory layout (default), or you can use one of the various view modes |
| [18:00:32] | iamlindoro: | Korny1, If your imported shows and movies are named properly (ie, the TV show filenames include some standard form of "show s01e01 episodename") then when scanned in, mythvideo will automatically pull in all the metadata from the correct source (you may want to watch the log, this happens in the background and can take a while if you have a lot of files, and will stop if you leave mythvideo) |
| [18:00:51] | iamlindoro: | once that's done, you can open the menu, and choose Browse By...->TV/Movies |
| [18:01:15] | iamlindoro: | and the tree will be built with Movies and TV separated... Movies on one side, TV on the other, broken down by show, then season, then episodes |
| [18:01:41] | wagnerrp: | see http://mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing for supported formats |
| [18:02:00] | Korny1: | The metadata has been pulled, correct, I just got done fixing a couple of movies because obviously I can't spell |
| [18:02:19] | iamlindoro: | Korny1, Then all that's likely left for you to do is try the TV/Movie browse mode |
| [18:02:21] | wagnerrp: | basically, if it finds a season and episode in the filename, it will assume its a TV show and will use the thetvdb.com grabber |
| [18:02:30] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, it will assume its a movie and use the themoviedb.org grabber |
| [18:02:43] | Korny1: | GOt it! |
| [18:02:54] | Korny1: | Thanks I just had to scroll down |
| [18:03:06] | Korny1: | Thats what I was looking for |
| [18:03:27] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [18:03:45] | ** iamlindoro ponders making TV/Movie browse mode the default ** | |
| [18:03:56] | Korny1: | I'm migrating to mythtv from a linux based sagetv setup, my sagetv extenders are paying for my new computer based front ends |
| [18:04:18] | iamlindoro: | Korny1, Heh, well at least you're probably making money on them ;) |
| [18:04:20] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: it would need to be a lot faster |
| [18:04:46] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, The browse modes don't incur any speed penalty |
| [18:04:48] | wagnerrp: | i recall it taking nearly ten seconds to open |
| [18:04:54] | iamlindoro: | since folder mode is built in the same way |
| [18:05:03] | Korny1: | Didn't cause any lag for me |
| [18:05:12] | Korny1: | Although I'm using it on my desktop and not an atom machine |
| [18:05:16] | wagnerrp: | maybe it was the actor sort im thinking of |
| [18:05:25] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, If anything, there's *less* to do since it doesn't have to loop through multiple levels of directory structure |
| [18:06:20] | iamlindoro: | Actor might take a little more oomph, yeah |
| [18:06:23] | Korny1: | is there anyway to turn off the season step? and instead just list all TV episodes of the same show in 1 area if that makes sense? |
| [18:06:29] | iamlindoro: | since tehre you're talking about a moany-to-one relationship |
| [18:06:32] | iamlindoro: | er many |
| [18:06:43] | iamlindoro: | Korny1, Not at present |
| [18:06:59] | Korny1: | Ok wife will just have to live with it :) |
| [18:07:07] | iamlindoro: | I thought about adding a "flatten seasons" option, but I despise options ;) |
| [18:07:32] | ** iamlindoro is off to rebuild his dev machine, afk ** | |
| [18:07:56] | wagnerrp: | well it would be another view, rather than an option |
| [18:08:06] | iamlindoro: | IMO that would be more confusing |
| [18:08:32] | iamlindoro: | but you're right, it would obviate the need for an option |
| [18:09:07] | iamlindoro: | On the other hand, I could just make it a menu toggle and only allow it to appear in that particular browse mode... but that's more confusing still |
| [18:09:15] | iamlindoro: | so oh well |
| [18:09:22] | iamlindoro: | for now people can just live with the season step ;) |
| [18:09:38] | wagnerrp: | the only problem i have with making that default is all the people with random assorted video that dont fall into either category |
| [18:09:40] | Korny1: | I love the IMDB number lookup method, its great for movies with the sam name |
| [18:09:58] | wagnerrp: | home videos, little bonus videos off dvds, other crap collected off the web, etc... |
| [18:10:04] | iamlindoro: | Korny1, Note that it's TMDB number, not IMDB |
| [18:10:32] | iamlindoro: | Korny1, and if multiple movies have the same name, it's far easier just to highlight it and press "W" |
| [18:10:56] | iamlindoro: | since then you get a menu with all the matches, including (if using a theme like arclight) their artwork, description, year, etc. |
| [18:11:10] | iamlindoro: | ok, ok, off to rebuild for real now |
| [18:11:31] | Korny1: | Thanks |
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| [18:39:46] | Gibby: | would running 2 hd-pvr's through a usb hub cause stuttering? |
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| [18:42:51] | Gibby: | or having my storage on a NFS mount? |
| [18:42:52] | [R]: | depends on the motherboard and the hub |
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| [18:46:31] | Gibby: | I got a really good powered hub, but I am watching the network traffic from the backend to the nfs server and it isn't even hitting 1MB... I thought it would be alot more, and this is on a gigabit network, with test speeds of about 70MB |
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| [18:48:25] | [R]: | ok... and what problems are you having? |
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| [18:55:30] | Gibby: | hd is skipping |
| [18:56:13] | [R]: | sure its not your hardware? |
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| [19:04:23] | wagnerrp: | i didnt know there was such a thing as a 'really good powered hub' |
| [19:05:27] | [R]: | haha |
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| [19:08:37] | lapion: | hello |
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| [19:09:08] | lapion: | does anyone get duplicate files in the LiveTV recording list when zapping between analog channels ? |
| [19:09:48] | unixSnob: | stick off |
| [19:12:29] | [R]: | duplicate files? |
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| [19:13:48] | wagnerrp: | each time you change channels, you open a new file |
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| [19:15:07] | lapion: | wagnerrp, no each time I either open a live-tv stream be digital or analog in the live-tv list 2 entries are created, one not working with a cross in front and one working |
| [19:15:37] | iamlindoro: | cross in front? What are you browsing these with? |
| [19:15:58] | lapion: | a frontend.. |
| [19:16:09] | iamlindoro: | mythfrontend? Or some alternate one? |
| [19:16:27] | iamlindoro: | because that doesn't sound like mythfrontend |
| [19:16:46] | unixSnob: | window stick off |
| [19:16:53] | lapion: | mythfrontend |
| [19:17:02] | iamlindoro: | take a screenshot |
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| [19:20:31] | lapion: | iamlindoro, got a image pastebin fo me ? |
| [19:21:51] | tank-man: | http://imagebin.org/ |
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| [19:26:48] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: does the bulk metadata grabber continue in the background if you exit mythvideo/ |
| [19:28:39] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: nop |
| [19:28:40] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [19:28:41] | lapion: | iamlindoro, http://imagebin.org/160079 |
| [19:28:46] | Gibby: | [R], load is under .1 |
| [19:29:04] | [R]: | Gibby: what/ |
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| [19:31:06] | iamlindoro: | lapion: That is a empty file used by the tuning signal monitor that only applies to live TV, it is harmless and will be autoexpired with the rest |
| [19:31:06] | iamlindoro: | and for what it's worth, that is an "X," not a cross |
| [19:32:38] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: the processed flag is only set when the scanner actually runs over it, correct? |
| [19:32:55] | lapion: | I thought it might have been the reason I cannot zap between analog channels, but can zap between digital channels, or alternate between analog and digital channels |
| [19:32:57] | wagnerrp: | so if you exit mythvideo, and terminate the scanner, all the stuff it doesnt reach remains unprocessed? |
| [19:33:51] | wagnerrp: | lapion: honestly, i would file it off as a weird quirk, and re-enable the livetv filter |
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| [19:35:00] | lapion: | wagnerrp, however the other problem I mentioned does remain, I can alternate between analog an digital channels , and zap between digital channels but not between analog channels |
| [19:36:04] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: when it runs *and* something or a "lookup failed" is returned, yes |
| [19:36:04] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: and yes, if you leave and then go restart a mass metadata grab, it will pick up where it left off |
| [19:36:24] | Gibby: | [R], you asked if was the hardware |
| [19:36:46] | skd5aner: | Doesn't have to be a CPU constraint... could be a video card contraint |
| [19:36:50] | skd5aner: | constraint |
| [19:37:06] | lapion: | wagnerrp, I have never disabled the livetv filter, or do you think I have to disable an reenable it for the zapping problem to go away ? |
| [19:37:08] | Gibby: | plays other hd content no isse, OTA, movies, ect... fine |
| [19:37:28] | iamlindoro: | HD is meaningless |
| [19:37:43] | iamlindoro: | your OTA content is MPEG-2 and thus much easier to decode, and thus much is left over for deinterlacing |
| [19:37:54] | iamlindoro: | your movies are likely progressive to begin with |
| [19:38:13] | iamlindoro: | so skd5aner's point stands-- it's likely you are maxing out your card's deinterlace ability if you are trying to use VDPAU |
| [19:38:18] | Gibby: | they are mostly blueray rips |
| [19:38:49] | iamlindoro: | which makes them progressive... and if they're some stoled garbage you've picked up off the internet, then they're little 4 Mbit pieces of junk, which are a joke to be able to play |
| [19:38:54] | iamlindoro: | s/stoled/stolen/ |
| [19:39:38] | Gibby: | most of the FE's are zotac ion's, actually all my main FE's are |
| [19:39:50] | Gibby: | s/stolen/traded |
| [19:40:00] | Gibby: | my dad provides the movies, i provde the tv |
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| [19:40:22] | Gibby: | got another issue tho, with ir crap, so I am not worried about this issue right now |
| [19:40:27] | wagnerrp: | so its the original 20–35mbps content straight off the disk? |
| [19:40:39] | wagnerrp: | if so, then an ION box should have no trouble with it |
| [19:41:30] | Gibby: | yep, i see a consistent 20 over the network when watching them, when using the hd-pvr it is barely hitting 1 |
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| [19:41:47] | Gibby: | i haven't found the bottleneck anywhere yet |
| [19:42:14] | iamlindoro: | Gibby: You're using IONs with content which is difficult to deinterlace. That's your bottleneck |
| [19:43:04] | Gibby: | which content is difficult to deinterlace? |
| [19:43:06] | wagnerrp: | make sure you are using VDPAU Normal or VDPAU Slim |
| [19:43:10] | wagnerrp: | the HDPVR content is |
| [19:43:35] | Gibby: | ahh ok, when i get back done there, i will check it out, trying to figure out this duo with IR crap |
| [19:45:44] | lapion: | If I have 2 storage directories for files can I copy all files from one to the other and remove the other ? |
| [19:45:52] | iamlindoro: | Also note that "trading" movies is still theft, and if you mention it again here, you will be banned |
| [19:46:00] | lapion: | other=one |
| [19:47:31] | wagnerrp: | assuming you keep a copy for yourself when you trade |
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| [19:48:18] | Gibby: | not if we live the same house |
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| [19:48:47] | wagnerrp: | if you live in the same house, and its playing on your computer, then youre not trading anything |
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| [19:49:17] | Gibby: | yeah i guess it itsn't trading i guess |
| [19:49:19] | Gibby: | wrong word |
| [19:49:34] | wagnerrp: | if you move out, take your computers, hard drives, and a copy of the content with you, while leaving the hard copy with him, then it becomes illegal |
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| [19:57:58] | lapion: | Ok I understand that the file-name ghosting is intended behaviour. However I am still here with the problem of not being able to zap between analog channels. |
| [19:59:21] | lapion: | I mean change between two analog channels.. |
| [20:00:24] | lapion: | any time I change from one analog channel to another I get "Error opening jump program file" |
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| [20:04:00] | lapion: | can anyone tell me what verbose options I should use to create a log file that gives some usable information ? |
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| [20:11:58] | wagnerrp: | oh, i thought you were saying zapping worked fine, but you ended up with duplicate entries |
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| [22:12:27] | Korny1: | How would i go about finding the chanid? |
| [22:13:35] | wagnerrp: | for what purpose? |
| [22:14:05] | Korny1: | trying to setup mythmediamonitor script |
| [22:16:45] | wagnerrp: | i think ill refrain from assistance on this one |
| [22:16:57] | wagnerrp: | im opposed to the purpose of that program |
| [22:17:45] | Korny1: | Mind if I ask why? |
| [22:18:20] | Korny1: | I'm new and attempting to import my sagetv media into it |
| [22:18:25] | wagnerrp: | because the recorded programs screen was not designed to handle external content |
| [22:18:43] | wagnerrp: | and trying to shoehorn stuff into it is likely to cause problems |
| [22:19:58] | Korny1: | ahhh, just trying to avoid re-recording some stuff I already have |
| [22:20:32] | wagnerrp: | i dont really have a good solution to that one besides just watching your upcoming recordings once a week |
| [22:20:42] | wagnerrp: | and overriding recordings for shows you already have |
| [22:20:46] | wagnerrp: | or... just ignore it |
| [22:20:56] | wagnerrp: | if its not causing conflicts, theres no real harm in recording a second time |
| [22:21:28] | Korny1: | I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible for the wife as well |
| [22:21:38] | lapion: | wagnerrp, zapping when alternating between analog and digital channels or only digital channels works fine, only when I zap between analog channels it fails everytime |
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| [22:55:08] | iamlindoro: | Can anyone with an XMLTV source give me the output of "select xmltvgrabber from videosource;" ? |
| [22:55:34] | iamlindoro: | (note, schedulesdirect/datadirect doesn't count ;) ) |
| [22:57:27] | [R]: | what if its sd through xmltv? |
| [22:57:29] | [R]: | lol |
| [22:58:08] | iamlindoro: | as long as you were using tv_grab_na_dd, that would work |
| [23:01:57] | [R]: | i'm not |
| [23:02:26] | wagnerrp: | well one ticket down, and ive started the clock on two more |
| [23:02:45] | wagnerrp: | theyve both got emails, so if i dont hear in a couple weeks, ill email directly |
| [23:07:38] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you around? |
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| [23:08:27] | wagnerrp: | wondering if your schema re-implementation includes a recgroup table |
| [23:08:47] | wagnerrp: | in reference to #7881 |
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| [23:10:39] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I plan to add a table for tags--not recording groups (though tags could (should?) replace recording groups) |
| [23:10:57] | sphery: | I don't have it in the schema, now, but could add it in |
| [23:11:18] | wagnerrp: | arent recording groups nothing more than an organization mechanism? |
| [23:11:30] | wagnerrp: | they dont control playback, they dont control storage location |
| [23:11:36] | wagnerrp: | they are just something to sort by |
| [23:11:53] | sphery: | was just planning to do it as part of the patch that added tags support |
| [23:12:03] | sphery: | yeah, it's a way to filter |
| [23:12:23] | sphery: | tags will be much more powerful since any recording can be tagged with any number of tags |
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| [23:12:30] | wagnerrp: | and tags would be carried over from the recording rule? |
| [23:12:53] | sphery: | and, eventually, the playback box would allow you to filter based on any number of tags (in an and or or filter) |
| [23:13:05] | sphery: | recording rule would allow you to specify tags for recordings |
| [23:13:19] | wagnerrp: | mind if i kick this one over to you? |
| [23:13:23] | sphery: | and will be able to modify them on individual recordings |
| [23:13:24] | sphery: | sure |
| [23:13:38] | sphery: | and users would define tags and they will live forever (or until user deletes them) |
| [23:13:46] | sphery: | basically very much like gmail tags... |
| [23:14:05] | sphery: | (even if recordings are deleted) |
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| [23:15:19] | wagnerrp: | do you still intend to hold off until 0.26 for that one? |
| [23:15:26] | sphery: | for tags? |
| [23:15:33] | sphery: | depends on when we freeze :) |
| [23:15:37] | wagnerrp: | for the schema stuff |
| [23:15:40] | sphery: | can do it before the recordedfile stuff |
| [23:15:46] | sphery: | oh, might stuff the schema in place |
| [23:15:52] | sphery: | but won't switch to it |
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| [23:18:55] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: seems were down to 390 |
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| [23:24:31] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: trac only gets events from the mythtv repo, correct? and there is no way around that? |
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| [23:26:13] | Beirdo: | correct |
| [23:26:25] | Beirdo: | trac is only designed to use one repo |
| [23:26:43] | Beirdo: | we can send notifications from other repos, but it might just go whacked |
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| [23:38:48] | [R]: | So, there goes a little bit of dev time that could have gone to something else. |
| [23:38:48] | [R]: | HAHA |
| [23:44:49] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [23:45:04] | [R]: | its in iamlindoro's commit message |
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| [23:45:57] | Gibby: | no go on the vdpau normal or slim.... |
| [23:48:55] | ICM^: | Scan for channels is greyed out? :| |
| [23:52:04] | iamlindoro: | If it's greyed out, then you are using an input type which cannot be scanned, or you have failed to attach a video source to the input |
| [23:52:04] | iamlindoro: | so what device type is it? |
| [23:52:37] | Gibby: | looks like on vdpau tweaking the vdpaubuffersize seems to make it better..... |
| [23:52:49] | ICM^: | I think I may have had the channel frequency table set improperly, going back through the General settings |
| [23:53:10] | iamlindoro: | ICM^: That cannot grey out the button |
| [23:53:17] | iamlindoro: | What type of device are you setting up? |
| [23:53:41] | ICM^: | iamlindoro: Hauppage WinTV PVR-150 |
| [23:53:47] | iamlindoro: | via which input? |
| [23:53:55] | ICM^: | the TV tuner (cable) |
| [23:54:05] | iamlindoro: | Then you have not set up and attached a video source |
| [23:54:34] | iamlindoro: | you need to set up a listings source-- the mythtv-setup steps are numbered because they are all required, and must be done in order |
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| [23:55:10] | iamlindoro: | That said, if you are using analog source, and since you are in the US, you should not being scanning at all |
| [23:55:23] | ICM^: | Alright |
| [23:56:17] | ICM^: | Out of curiousity, in the 'Capture Card Setup', both 'IVTV MPEG-2 encoder card' and 'H.264 encoder card (HD-PVR)' show up, both pointing to /dev/video1, probed info both showing 'Hauppage WinTV PVR-150 [ivtv]' |
| [23:56:35] | wagnerrp: | you should be pulling the lineup from your schedules direct account instead |
| [23:56:37] | ICM^: | Is either one .. more correct than the other? I'd assume the first (IVTV MPEG-2 encoder card) but |
| [23:57:20] | wagnerrp: | all analog devices use the same /dev/video<n> devices |
| [23:57:23] | iamlindoro: | You should be setting up Schedules Direct as your listings source, attaching that to the input, and pulling in the channels from the listings source |
| [23:57:31] | wagnerrp: | and that includes V4L capture, IVTV cards, and HDPVRs |
| [23:57:40] | iamlindoro: | ICM^: only ivtv MPEG-2 will work with your device |
| [23:57:47] | ICM^: | okay. that's what I thought |
| [23:57:52] | wagnerrp: | at least the IVTV cards have some additional detection to actually confirm it is a proper device |
| [23:57:58] | wagnerrp: | i suppose the other two do not |
| [23:58:26] | wagnerrp: | V4L i understand, but im surprised there is no additional check for HDPVR support |
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| [23:58:38] | ICM^: | so I have to sign up for SchedulesDirect.org ? |
| [23:58:46] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [23:59:33] | Gibby: | the wiki says that vdpaubuffersize tweak isn't need for 24+fixes and newer, what was the changeset on that ? |
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| [23:59:50] | ICM^: | can the information (street address, state, etc) be changed at a later date? I'm a college student that moves around |
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