| Sunday, June 12th, 2011, 00:09 UTC | ||
| [00:09:56] | Beirdo: | anyone remember the command to check defrag level on xfs? |
| [00:12:12] | Beirdo: | got it |
| [00:12:17] | sid3windr: | what is it? :P |
| [00:12:22] | ** sid3windr would also like to know ** | |
| [00:12:59] | analogue__: | xfs_dbg -f -c /device? |
| [00:13:17] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [00:13:35] | sid3windr: | thankies |
| [00:13:37] | ** sid3windr curious ** | |
| [00:14:21] | sid3windr: | hmm |
| [00:14:22] | analogue__: | correction: xfs_db -c frag -r /dev/sdg1 |
| [00:14:31] | Beirdo: | yeah, sorry |
| [00:14:46] | Beirdo: | a bit distracted, trying to check the mailman mount at work |
| [00:14:51] | Beirdo: | it's being slow as crap |
| [00:15:20] | analogue__: | my xfs part is fragged 98% but seems to be working fine |
| [00:15:35] | ** analogue__ don't touch it if it aint broke ** | |
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| [00:23:42] | Beirdo: | hmm, anyone know what filesystem excels at millions of small files? |
| [00:28:20] | jams: | don't know about millions, but reiserfs is great with small files |
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| [00:29:10] | jams: | but i can't suggest you use it any more, as well it has no devs any more that i'm aware of |
| [00:29:29] | iamlindoro: | It has one dev with a lot of time on his hands, but no PC |
| [00:29:42] | stevieman: | how do I stop the mythbackend? stop mythtv-backend produces this error: stop: Unknown job: mythtvbackend |
| [00:30:10] | jams: | hehehe |
| [00:30:16] | jams: | yeah i suppose so |
| [00:31:07] | iamlindoro: | Heh, he's locked up with Manson... next time I drive by San Quentin I'll have to remember to wave to him too |
| [00:31:18] | Beirdo: | we have xfs |
| [00:31:24] | Beirdo: | and it's being horrible |
| [00:31:34] | Beirdo: | (wasn't my choice) |
| [00:31:46] | iamlindoro: | Oh, wait, he got his butt kicked in prison and got transfered |
| [00:31:54] | jams: | oh yeah i can see that |
| [00:32:05] | jams: | i don't have a problem with xfs..but it's not built for small files |
| [00:32:29] | stevieman: | I'm trying to update a mythexport and it's throwing an error, I's guessing it's because myth is still running |
| [00:36:23] | sphery: | stevieman: maybe you want to stop mythbackend, not mythtvbackend |
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| [00:51:47] | stevieman: | sphery: Thanks, that gives me: stop: Unknown job: mythbackend |
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| [00:53:39] | iamlindoro: | stevieman, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-mythtv, since we don't actually provide init scripts |
| [00:54:11] | iamlindoro: | But I would tentatively guess, based on my limited knowledge of upstart, that your backend isn't running if it says unknown job |
| [00:54:21] | stevieman: | iamlindoro: ok, cool. |
| [01:03:15] | Beirdo: | ps auxww | grep backend should show for sure |
| [01:03:55] | wagnerrp: | the extra 'w' is for more wombat |
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| [01:15:55] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:16:05] | Beirdo: | you can always use more wombat |
| [01:16:23] | Beirdo: | just like cowbell |
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| [01:18:10] | BLZbubba: | the subtitles seem to be cut off on the right 1/3 and left 1/3 of the screen, is there an easy way to get them to render correctly? |
| [01:18:48] | sphery: | BLZbubba: what type of video, what aspect ratio, what video renderer? |
| [01:20:15] | BLZbubba: | vdpau, blu ray image, 16x9 |
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| [01:20:37] | sphery: | don't know anything about vdpau |
| [01:20:42] | BLZbubba: | ok it was encoded to mkv |
| [01:20:51] | sphery: | so it's not a blu ray image :) |
| [01:20:54] | BLZbubba: | the weird thing is that it doesn't always cut off at the same spot |
| [01:20:59] | sphery: | mkv with what type of subtitles? |
| [01:21:06] | sphery: | in the mkv or external? |
| [01:21:17] | BLZbubba: | in the mkv in this case but .srt files do the same thing |
| [01:22:00] | sphery: | hmmm... not sure what's happening |
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| [01:51:03] | borei: | was trying to build mythtv with vdpau support, but configure script sayes "no" |
| [01:51:28] | wagnerrp: | because your system does not support VDPAU |
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| [01:51:48] | iamlindoro: | (more specifically, because it lacks the required development headers) |
| [01:52:01] | wagnerrp: | if i change a header file to add a new method, but that method is one that will only be used internally |
| [01:52:08] | wagnerrp: | does that still trigger an API update? |
| [01:52:20] | iamlindoro: | if the class is public, then yes |
| [01:52:30] | wagnerrp: | (much more specifically, you have to install the libvdpau package) |
| [01:52:34] | iamlindoro: | class and method, anyway |
| [01:52:47] | borei: | ok |
| [01:52:51] | wagnerrp: | method is protected, class is MPUBLIC |
| [01:52:55] | iamlindoro: | if the method is private or protected, it's not strictly necessary |
| [01:53:04] | borei: | is it coming from nvidia (my case) drivers ? |
| [01:53:16] | wagnerrp: | it used to, it does not any longer |
| [01:53:22] | wagnerrp: | it should be its own package |
| [01:53:30] | borei: | good :-( |
| [01:53:38] | wagnerrp: | thats a sad? |
| [01:53:42] | borei: | yup |
| [01:53:54] | borei: | now i need to merge them somehow |
| [01:54:05] | wagnerrp: | merge what? |
| [01:54:34] | borei: | library from nvidia driver and dev environemnt from oss vdpau |
| [01:54:39] | borei: | is it correct ? |
| [01:55:04] | wagnerrp: | what 'dev environment'? |
| [01:55:09] | borei: | or install oss vdpau library then on top of it driver |
| [01:55:22] | borei: | looks like i need headers files |
| [01:55:28] | wagnerrp: | you dont need any kind of drivers |
| [01:55:35] | borei: | that i called devs environemnt |
| [01:55:37] | wagnerrp: | you just need the headers to allow you to compile against |
| [01:55:49] | wagnerrp: | thats not a dev environment, thats just called headers |
| [01:55:50] | borei: | that will work |
| [01:56:00] | wagnerrp: | and any sane distro should provide them for any libraries installed |
| [01:56:31] | wagnerrp: | i really /hate/ how ubuntu splits those things up |
| [01:56:34] | borei: | here is problem im on the LFS |
| [01:56:46] | borei: | need to find source code |
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| [01:58:15] | wagnerrp: | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~aplattnet/libvdpau |
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| [01:58:43] | borei: | yeah, there are only 2 files |
| [01:58:56] | borei: | is it sounds like right ? |
| [01:59:42] | wagnerrp: | dont know, never installed it manually |
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| [02:01:38] | borei: | ok, will play with it, thanks for heads up |
| [02:02:39] | borei: | oh, one more question, can't find themes url |
| [02:02:52] | wagnerrp: | themes url? |
| [02:02:54] | borei: | for .24.1 release, was it moved ? |
| [02:03:18] | wagnerrp: | you use the built in themes downloader |
| [02:03:19] | borei: | was trying to download, but getting "not found" |
| [02:03:28] | sphery: | borei: use the theme chooser in mythfrontend Utilities/Setup|Setup|Theme Chooser |
| [02:03:29] | wagnerrp: | built into the theme chooser in the frontend |
| [02:03:44] | sphery: | hit MENU, then tell it to show remote themes, too |
| [02:04:12] | borei: | ok |
| [02:05:10] | sphery: | there are many more themes there, anyway (more than in the myththemes package) |
| [02:05:30] | sphery: | oh, and out of curiosity, does that mean you're running the 0.24.1 release tarball? |
| [02:05:50] | sphery: | if so, you might want to consider using the 0.24-fixes branch of git--it has updates and fixes for known bugs |
| [02:06:26] | sphery: | or were you saying that the theme chooser wasn't working for you? |
| [02:09:09] | borei: | download section on the www.mythtv.org |
| [02:09:25] | sphery: | ah, ok |
| [02:09:37] | borei: | not really critical |
| [02:09:39] | wagnerrp: | those tarballs are only there for the convenience of packagers that need specific releases |
| [02:09:48] | wagnerrp: | nearly everyone should be using the -fixes branch |
| [02:09:50] | borei: | got it |
| [02:10:02] | sphery: | rather than use those tarballs, 0.24-fixes is more up-to-date... http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ see the "Stable: If you'd like to get the 0.24 stable branch, do this: " |
| [02:10:17] | sphery: | or just pull a tarball of it from github, if you don't have git installed |
| [02:11:41] | sphery: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/tarball/fixes/0.24 + https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/tarball/fixes/0.24 |
| [02:14:01] | borei: | i have git installed |
| [02:14:18] | borei: | will it include both mythtv and plugins ? |
| [02:14:31] | sphery: | yeah, mythtv repo has mythtv and mythplugins dirs |
| [02:15:00] | borei: | ok |
| [02:36:17] | iamlindoro: | "Ice Twisters" – "A disastrous experiment creates killer tornadoes that shoot shards of ice. " |
| [02:36:24] | iamlindoro: | Oh SciFi/SyFy |
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| [02:36:34] | iamlindoro: | To think you used to produce Farscape and BSG |
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| [02:58:53] | borei: | how to force mythtv-setup to connect to db via internet socket but not via unix |
| [02:59:48] | sphery: | borei: specify a routable ip address for the DB server in your config.xml or mysql.txt |
| [03:00:00] | sphery: | but why? unix sockets are much faster |
| [03:00:17] | borei: | then i need to specify location of it |
| [03:00:41] | borei: | it's trying to connect to /tmp/mysql.sock, but it's not there |
| [03:00:56] | sphery: | so fix your mysql config |
| [03:01:25] | borei: | is it configureable on the mythtv side ? |
| [03:02:39] | borei: | don't want to movw socket into /tmp dir |
| [03:02:49] | sphery: | your socket location (as used by the mysql server) is likely specified in /etc/my.cnf and you may have a ~/.my.cnf that has a different location... otherwise, check your mysql server start script (or upstart config file or whatever) to find out what socket it's saying to use (with --socket) |
| [03:03:04] | sphery: | and fix the my.cnf files to agree |
| [03:03:46] | sphery: | mythtv doesn't have a config for it because Qt MySQL drivers take care of it using the MySQL C API, which uses the mysql config files :) |
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| [03:06:31] | sphery: | wagnerrp: did you notice that The Finder (from the Bones backdoor pilot) got picked up? :) |
| [03:06:42] | sphery: | even has a page on tv.com: http://www.tv.com/the-finder/show/81467/summary.html |
| [03:07:15] | sphery: | and thetvdb.com: http://thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=248651&lid=7 |
| [03:07:47] | sphery: | only problem is that both pages (wrongly) call it a spinoff of Bones |
| [03:08:41] | sphery: | and it seems that Saffron Burrows won't be on the real show |
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| [03:31:37] | wagnerrp: | no i did not |
| [03:31:45] | wagnerrp: | wasnt particularly impressed by that episode |
| [03:33:21] | sphery: | heh, if you ignored the Bones stuff, it wasn't too bad--but I'll agree it just wasn't Bones |
| [03:33:45] | wagnerrp: | its like the last indiana jones movie |
| [03:33:53] | wagnerrp: | would have been a fun movie in its own right |
| [03:34:08] | wagnerrp: | but they had to make it indiana jones, and pissed off everyone in the process |
| [03:34:52] | sphery: | heh |
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| [05:08:12] | borei: | hi all |
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| [05:11:22] | borei: | i have 2 video cards, to one of them connected TV (component), when i used to use .24rc1 i was able to open mythfrontend window on the TV and browse through menu, now after i installed git version of .24 i can open only window, but there is no menu, if i open mythfrontend on the LCD monitor, which is hocked-up to primary video card everything works like charm |
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| [07:58:12] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: ya missed descriptive text for mytharchivehelper and mythfillnetvision |
| [07:58:28] | Beirdo: | both in the respective main.cpp in the plugins tree |
| [07:58:40] | Beirdo: | and good work :) |
| [07:59:43] | Beirdo: | anywho, I'm going to bed |
| [07:59:48] | Beirdo: | enough for one night |
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| [09:54:36] | kth: | hi guys, what could be the reason if a planned record isn't be recorded? i took a look through the db and there is the record correctly in table "record" but not in "recorded" y? |
| [09:56:01] | sid3windr: | more planned recordings than you have tuners for? |
| [09:56:54] | kth: | sid3windr: nope i've got 2 tuners and at this time there was no one used ;) |
| [09:57:21] | sid3windr: | then I don't know :) |
| [09:59:01] | kth: | sid3windr: ^ i'm also wondering as i former thought it was a mistake of my shutdown/wakeup solution but it wasn't as the htpc was up at the time it should have been recording this planned record – so i don't know why it haven't work even if it is correct in the db |
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| [10:55:08] | StevenR: | Hi. How do I change the category of a recorded show? I've got alot of films that I'd like to lump together into one category, rather than having lots of categories each with one item |
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| [11:03:39] | StevenR: | never mind, found I can edit the titles, and thus alter their location |
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| [11:47:26] | sphery: | kth: Go to mythfrontend's Previously Recorded screen (I think it's Manage Recording|Previously Recorded) and find the episode and it will tell you the reason why it didn't record. (You have to do that within 10 days of airing.) |
| [11:50:49] | sphery: | StevenR: and, yeah, you can change title (which will move it in the list of titles) or recording group (which will move it in the list of recording groups). However, category is not user-editable--it's provided by your listings provider. |
| [11:51:52] | StevenR: | sphery: when, really, I wanted to group things like all James Bond films together |
| [11:52:02] | StevenR: | so title is fine |
| [11:52:08] | StevenR: | :) |
| [12:03:58] | kth: | sphery: thanks – i'll take a look – currently i've no direct access to my htpc but tomorrow i'll check this |
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| [12:33:38] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: i was only adding descriptions for applications likely to be run manually by users |
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| [13:45:53] | stafan: | hello, can someone pls tell me where i can find the new (?) password for the german xmltv files ? ······· doesn't work for me oÔ |
| [13:46:04] | stuartm: | are there any pre-existing scripts for using dd to cut the start/end off a recording using the cutlist? |
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| [14:07:04] | gandalfcome: | I'm looking for a good cheap frontend for mythtv. anyone got experience with nvidia ion computers like zotac mag? |
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| [14:42:48] | JEDIDIAH__: | plenty of us do. |
| [14:42:53] | JEDIDIAH__: | they can work very well actually. |
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| [15:52:17] | wagnerrp: | password for german xmltv? |
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| [16:01:49] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: ive got a mostly written script in python which does something very similar |
| [16:01:55] | wagnerrp: | it actually applies the whole cutlist |
| [16:02:13] | wagnerrp: | but i havent come up with a good, reliable means of fixing the timecodes |
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| [16:10:42] | stuartm: | yeah, I was only going to trim the start/end since I wasn't too sure how myth would handle mid-stream cuts without timestamp fixes |
| [16:11:09] | stuartm: | and most of the stuff I want to 'fix' is BBC HD material anyway so there are no adverts in the middle to be cut |
| [16:11:35] | wagnerrp: | i had set this up as a GOP cutter, for an alternative to mythtranscode when mythtranscode barfs on the file |
| [16:11:46] | wagnerrp: | but i stalled at lack of a timecode fixer |
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| [16:12:09] | wagnerrp: | still need to go in and have it correct the cutpoints and skip table |
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| [16:12:50] | stuartm: | I'm dealing with H.264 which mythtranscode doesn't have lossless support for |
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| [16:13:37] | wagnerrp: | well that would be a file mythtranscode barfs on |
| [16:13:43] | stuartm: | I've manually truncated a bunch of recordings this way (for archive) but it's laborious and better scripted |
| [16:14:44] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: if it's available I'd love to see what you've got and maybe I can implement the table fixes |
| [16:15:03] | stuartm: | has to be better than starting from scratch |
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| [16:16:18] | wagnerrp: | give me an hour or two |
| [16:16:26] | wagnerrp: | ill clean it up and get that stuff implemented |
| [16:16:30] | wagnerrp: | and toss it up on the wiki |
| [16:17:08] | wagnerrp: | i should be able to do something now that we have mythffmpeg |
| [16:18:07] | stuartm: | cool |
| [16:22:31] | wagnerrp: | actually, i think i want to rewrite how it manipulates the cut/seek lists |
| [16:22:40] | wagnerrp: | its a horrid mess of accounting |
| [16:22:50] | wagnerrp: | and i think i can do it cleaner (read more reliably) |
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| [16:52:23] | ThisNewGuy1: | hey all – has anyone seen this in the python bindings in master: http://pastebin.com/m2s3Fdzb |
| [16:54:12] | ThisNewGuy1: | by "in" I mean "when using" |
| [16:59:18] | borei: | hi falks, another problem after upgrade |
| [16:59:23] | borei: | i have 2 video cards, to one of them connected TV (component), when i used to use .24rc1 i was able to open mythfrontend window on the TV and browse through menu, now after i installed git version of .24 i can open only window, but there is no menu, if i open mythfrontend on the LCD monitor, which is hocked-up to primary video card everything works like charm |
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| [17:28:11] | NewBuntu81: | Anyone know of an email application that allows you to send email upon clicking send, and not pile up the emails in the Outbox waiting for you to click Send & Receive? Evolution seems to pile them up... |
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| [17:53:07] | wagnerrp: | sphery: how much did you pay for all of stargate? |
| [17:57:49] | JEDIDIAH__: | I've seen a complete box set of it for $100. |
| [17:57:57] | iamlindoro: | The stargate was cheap, it was just sitting out in the desert. It was the underground military base taht really hit him in the wallet |
| [17:59:25] | thedeath: | iamlindoro: not to mention the power bill for charging the entire facility :p |
| [17:59:31] | iamlindoro: | and that |
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| [18:00:01] | thedeath: | oh well, it's probably cheaper to buy spare parts from japanese nuclear plants |
| [18:00:12] | thedeath: | they got plenty of spares now that they are disasembling a few :p |
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| [18:10:47] | JEDIDIAH__: | although you gotta stay away from those bit box sets sometime. packaging quite often isn't very good and you end up with a lot of broken parts. |
| [18:10:56] | JEDIDIAH__: | big box sets |
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| [18:22:00] | mikeones: | hello, anyone know if I can use a smartphone to remotely control a windows frontend? I can't find if this functinality has been ported over from the linux frontend |
| [18:24:23] | wagnerrp: | JEDIDIAH__: well i was going to say bestbuy has the whole series on dvd for $60 |
| [18:24:52] | wagnerrp: | mikeones: yes, in exactly the same manner as you can the linux frontend |
| [18:25:05] | wagnerrp: | it isnt so much ported to windows |
| [18:25:15] | wagnerrp: | as it just compiles and runs natively on windowsl |
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| [19:03:10] | fbnts: | Hi, In mythweb, after selecting a recording theres a section that says "Play Recording on Frontend:" but then no frontend's are listed. How do I enable this feature? |
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| [19:07:51] | JEDIDIAH__: | quite often the "whole series" sets have crap packaging and lots of disks that won't play. |
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| [19:18:35] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | hi somewhat strange thing, maybe one of you has had it before: on my remote frontend, I need to rescan audio devices in order to get sound working |
| [19:18:57] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | output from cat /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log does not show an obvious difference |
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| [19:39:28] | Beirdo: | seems one of my neighbors is the "play guitar and sing loudly" type of douchebag |
| [19:40:27] | Beirdo: | I should buy an amp and piss him off with my lack of bass skills |
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| [19:40:56] | Beirdo: | generally, one doesn't want to hear their neighbors in an apartment building |
| [19:41:07] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | true |
| [19:42:15] | Beirdo: | I think I'll go out and have some brunch |
| [19:43:29] | russell5: | Beirdo, i just moved out of a place because of loud neighbors |
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| [20:08:20] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I was buying them as they were released, so way more than a complete set would cost. |
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| [21:32:47] | borei: | hi all |
| [21:32:50] | borei: | need help |
| [21:33:15] | borei: | i have system with 2 video cards on board |
| [21:33:35] | borei: | monitor connect to one, tv to the second |
| [21:33:45] | borei: | X configured with xinerama |
| [21:34:09] | borei: | if mythfrontend opened on the LCD – i can see all menues |
| [21:34:44] | borei: | once i drug window to tv all menus are gone, seems like window is not rendered |
| [21:35:02] | borei: | it happened only with mythfrontend |
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| [21:37:34] | wagnerrp: | perhaps the video is in fact not being rendered |
| [21:37:46] | wagnerrp: | try 'mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt' |
| [21:39:08] | borei: | nope, no luck |
| [21:39:23] | borei: | just background for mythfrontend |
| [21:39:26] | wagnerrp: | this is 0.24, not master? |
| [21:39:36] | borei: | from git |
| [21:39:41] | wagnerrp: | this is 0.24, not master? |
| [21:40:02] | borei: | hmm, confused |
| [21:40:16] | borei: | master [v0.25pre-2293-g4f9fd7b-dirty] www.mythtv.org |
| [21:40:21] | wagnerrp: | so master |
| [21:40:26] | borei: | ok |
| [21:40:33] | wagnerrp: | meaning ThemePainter does not do anything |
| [21:40:37] | wagnerrp: | sphery: ^^^ |
| [21:41:07] | borei: | isshould i download another tarball ? |
| [21:41:33] | wagnerrp: | did you download a tarball? or are you using git? |
| [21:41:48] | borei: | currently im on the git version |
| [21:42:08] | wagnerrp: | then 'git checkout fixes/0.24' |
| [21:42:15] | wagnerrp: | note that your database has already been upgraded |
| [21:42:21] | wagnerrp: | you will have to revert to the latest backup |
| [21:42:30] | wagnerrp: | you cannot simply run 0.24 as is |
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| [21:45:07] | borei: | i don't worry too much to wipe out DB, there is pretty much nothing |
| [21:45:28] | borei: | would you recommend to go with tarball or use git version ? |
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| [21:57:03] | stuartm: | git, it will be marginally ahead of the tarball version in terms of fixes |
| [21:59:22] | borei: | but what to do with rendering ? |
| [21:59:31] | borei: | well, painting |
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| [22:20:34] | sphery: | borei: you need to specify which monitor to start on using the "Display on screen" setting in Appearance Settings |
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| [22:43:10] | Shadow__X: | whoops sorry guys wrong room |
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| [23:16:26] | pyther: | Hi |
| [23:17:22] | pyther: | I have two capture cards one digital (OTA) and one analog (cable). Under upcoming recording it show that it will record the show on both cards (different channels)- |
| [23:18:04] | wagnerrp: | then the guide information lists that the two shows are different programids |
| [23:18:15] | wagnerrp: | or they otherwise have mismatched title/descriptions |
| [23:20:35] | pyther: | wagnerrp: is there a way to confirm this? |
| [23:20:57] | wagnerrp: | hit 'i' to pull up the info on the recordings |
| [23:22:41] | pyther: | the program ID is the same |
| [23:22:54] | pyther: | the description is different |
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| [23:23:40] | pyther: | err actually in this case the description is the same |
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| [23:25:40] | tonyb: | I have a simple problem. When I try to watch LiveTV Myth (0.24) locks up. It's trying to display a HD channel. I can't use the interface to change to another station. Is there a way to change the default station (wich I assume is "last watched") to see if the lockup are related to the station being HD? |
| [23:27:18] | pyther: | wagnerrp: the program ids are the same, what else could be a problem? |
| [23:28:56] | pyther: | wagnerrp: the channels are different, for example one channel is 8 while the other is 8_1 |
| [23:29:11] | sphery: | pyther: the programid is the same for them, but the air at the exact same time, but on channels with different call signs, right? |
| [23:29:32] | sphery: | pyther: the only workaround for that case is to use the same callsign--but you can only do that if the content of the 2 channels is identical |
| [23:29:41] | sphery: | i.e. if they air exactly the same thing all the time |
| [23:29:58] | pyther: | sphery: yah that is the problem |
| [23:30:02] | sphery: | sounds like that's the case, here, though--so you should set the call signs to be the same |
| [23:30:12] | pyther: | one channel is WJW and WJWDT-1 |
| [23:30:16] | pyther: | they air the same exact thing |
| [23:30:16] | sphery: | (assuming 8 and 8_1 are the same channel, but one is digital version) |
| [23:30:18] | sphery: | yeah |
| [23:30:25] | sphery: | so just change the callsigns so they're the same |
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| [23:30:33] | sphery: | use the channel editor in mythtv-setup or mythweb |
| [23:31:28] | pyther: | sphery: after I do that do I need to call mythfilldatabase? |
| [23:31:32] | sphery: | channel number is irrelevant... you can make it the same (since it's the same channel), but if you do, then you can't type in 81 to change to the digital channel and 8 to change to the analog channel in Live TV--you'd type in whatever "same" channel number you assign and would change to one or the other |
| [23:31:52] | sphery: | pyther: no need for mythfilldatabase since you didn't actually add any channels |
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| [23:32:14] | sphery: | when you restart mythbackend, it should just start scheduling the way you want |
| [23:32:32] | sphery: | this also means that now, "this channel" rules are allowed to record from either channel |
| [23:32:45] | sphery: | "this channel" = channels with the same callsign |
| [23:33:15] | pyther: | will the first card take priority? |
| [23:34:24] | sphery: | if you don't specify any input or channel priorities, then recordings prioritize the input usage in the order the inputs are connected |
| [23:35:08] | pyther: | ok, so if my Digital card is first and the analog is second it should always prefer the digital when there is only one recording and it is avaliable on the digital card, correct? |
| [23:35:19] | sphery: | live tv prioritizes tuner selection based on the order cards are added /iff/ you enable "Avoid conflicts between Live TV and scheduled shows" |
| [23:35:29] | sphery: | card != input |
| [23:36:07] | sphery: | however, if you mean that you connected inputs on your digital card first, then the simplistic answer is "yes" |
| [23:36:16] | sphery: | in reality, the answer is /much/ more complex |
| [23:37:16] | pyther: | ok, I got it working |
| [23:37:37] | sphery: | if you have a show that's airing from 8–10pm but that's got a priority of -1 and another show airing at 9–10pm with a priority of 0 (and no other shows airing anywhere), then the 8–10 show gets input 2 and the 9–10 show gets input 1 because the 9–10 show is higher priority/more important, so it gets the better input |
| [23:38:04] | sphery: | if you have additional shows to record within that period, other influences may change input selection |
| [23:40:05] | sphery: | which is why most of the "It's simple, MythTV should just do..." ideas about input selection and program placement on the -users list are so wrong--they only see the simplistic cases, and don't realize just how much the realistic cases would break their approaches |
| [23:40:21] | pyther: | sphery: got it |
| [23:40:32] | pyther: | I only have like 10 channels on my digital card :P |
| [23:40:44] | sphery: | sorry, once my mind was on the train of thought, I had to continue to vent so my head didn't explode :) |
| [23:41:02] | pyther: | Haha it's fine |
| [23:42:24] | sphery: | anyway, glad we got your channels fixed up--hope it schedules like you want, now |
| [23:42:42] | pyther: | seems like it will |
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| [23:43:02] | sphery: | now back to the really strange movie that I was watching... |
| [23:43:13] | pyther: | thanks again |
| [23:44:46] | sphery: | (Not the movie I told MythTV to record--the network changed the schedule... Watching Iron Monkey and trying to figure out if it's a spoof using footage from real shows, like Kung Pow: Enter the Fist. If not, I can't figure out what they were thinking when they decided to spend the money to film it.) |
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| [23:49:43] | wagnerrp: | sphery: we really shouldnt be telling users to run mfd |
| [23:50:06] | sphery: | wagnerrp: agreed... I think we should take that dialog out of mythtv-setup |
| [23:50:21] | wagnerrp: | let the channel editor decide whether or not they should be running it, and do so automatically |
| [23:50:21] | sphery: | I'd support anyone who did it :) |
| [23:56:55] | iamlindoro: | or put that effort into doing something useful with our real setup |
| [23:57:31] | sphery: | yeah, that sounds like a better plan |
| [23:57:47] | sphery: | but we could easily just remove the dialog that's there, now :) |
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