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| [00:01:48] | JEDIDIAH__: | annoying disc! |
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| [01:24:58] | kisak: | good evening |
| [01:26:33] | kisak: | I am running mythtv on gentoo, specificly mythtv-0.25-pre20110524 on my frontend and mythtv-0.25-pre20110514 on the backend |
| [01:26:57] | kisak: | the frontend tries to start up and dies with 2011-06–03 21:22:00.132 OpenGL Error: Mis-matched calls to makeCurrent() |
| [01:27:43] | kisak: | I'm wary to bump the backend when the frontend is making an error like that |
| [01:29:14] | kisak: | anybody else encounter this? |
| [01:32:10] | soniko: | kisak: you got that from an overlay? that versios isn't in portage |
| [01:42:41] | kisak: | soniko: it's from mythtv's overlay |
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| [01:49:17] | kisak: | Cardoe: any idea? |
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| [01:49:47] | Cardoe: | kisak: never even messed with the overlay |
| [01:49:52] | Cardoe: | I personally use 0.23.1 |
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| [01:54:18] | kisak: | oh, osorry for nudging you Cardoe, I ment to nudge kormoc_afk |
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| [01:54:48] | kisak: | simple faulty memory at work |
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| [02:08:05] | wagnerrp: | kisak: what video card? |
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| [02:19:20] | kisak: | wagnerrp: it's a nVidia 8800GT running nvidia-drivers 270.41.06 |
| [02:20:01] | kisak: | (current x86 stable version) |
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| [02:37:32] | kisak: | I have another frontend with a GT240 in it which is healthy, I'll bump the drivers to 270.41.06 and see if it has a problem |
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| [03:10:24] | kisak: | ok, the frontend running mythtv-0.25_pre20110514 with a GT240 and nvidia-drivers 270.41.06 appears to run fine |
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| [03:35:01] | kisak: | oh ... I've been misreading the frontend log all this time |
| [03:35:21] | kisak: | righty-oh |
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| [04:19:17] | FoxKeegan: | Helllo. If anyone is about and has used the HVR-2250 with Mythdora (the latest) or even heard of someone getting it to work, I'd love to know if you still need to use those specific driver installs. |
| [04:19:47] | wagnerrp: | what kernel are you running? |
| [04:20:19] | FoxKeegan: | Let me go check. Whichever Mythdora's latest release is. Did they actually start including those drivers after a certain kernel? |
| [04:20:30] | wagnerrp: | uname -r |
| [04:21:06] | FoxKeegan: | Yeah, I"ll be just a sec. I have two NICs in that thing and only one has a DHCP reservation. I haven't added it to the DNS server yet. |
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| [04:21:24] | FoxKeegan: | (and I stupidly switched the cable because it was Gigabit...but doesn't have PXE) |
| [04:22:03] | FoxKeegan: | 2.6.32–11 |
| [04:22:12] | wagnerrp: | yeah thats too old |
| [04:22:17] | wagnerrp: | you will need the external drivers |
| [04:22:45] | FoxKeegan: | Does the present version of MythTV work on Fedora14 or 15? |
| [04:22:46] | wagnerrp: | they werent added until 2.6.37 or so |
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| [04:22:53] | wagnerrp: | it should |
| [04:24:13] | FoxKeegan: | I mean, this is just a master backend. I'm wondering which will be more of a headache: installing these drivers, or reaping possible benefits (and potential problems) of just plain using a newer fedora version and installing Myth manually. |
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| [04:24:47] | FoxKeegan: | Sounds like some clonezilla imaging is in my future. THanks Wagnerrp. |
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| [04:37:27] | FoxKeegan: | Hell....Kernellabs doesn't seem to exist anymore |
| [04:37:50] | FoxKeegan: | Looks like you can't get the most recent version of Mythdora working with HVR-2250 |
| [04:53:08] | FoxKeegan: | I'll screw with this tomorrow. This is gonna be a pain. |
| [04:53:34] | ** FoxKeegan orders an Intel Pro 1000 and goes to bed ** | |
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| [05:04:50] | mzb: | anybody got a recommendation for a case that will hold 9 hdd (min) + 1x2.5 + 1x5.25 ?? |
| [05:04:58] | mzb: | (price more important than looks;)) |
| [05:05:49] | mzb: | (nice if I could fit a couple more in;)) |
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| [05:10:25] | wagnerrp: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811182551 |
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| [05:16:45] | mzb: | thanks wagnerrp |
| [05:16:48] | tank-man: | no price on that page |
| [05:16:55] | mzb: | Codegen S101 = $199 |
| [05:17:04] | mzb: | still a lot more than I'd like to spend |
| [05:17:12] | wagnerrp: | yeah, was $200 when i bought one like 5 years ago |
| [05:17:16] | kc: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233062 |
| [05:17:27] | kc: | and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It . . . 28-_-Product |
| [05:17:46] | mzb: | yeah, barely enough |
| [05:18:36] | wagnerrp: | mzb: honestly, id like to migrate to a rackmount |
| [05:18:50] | wagnerrp: | you could have the case, but im sure S&H to australia would be ~$200 |
| [05:18:51] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [05:18:55] | mzb: | agreed |
| [05:18:56] | kc: | ? 10 hdd's, 1 external 3.5 and 1 external 5.25 under $200 |
| [05:19:05] | kc: | that is MORE than you asked for |
| [05:19:17] | mzb: | 9x3.5 + 1x2.5 + 1x5.25 |
| [05:19:56] | kc: | Okay, an extra hdd and an extra inch. You can't ask for anymore than that |
| [05:20:13] | mzb: | gz-ph2a3 not big enough |
| [05:20:23] | mzb: | where do you get 10 + 1 + 1 from? |
| [05:21:12] | kc: | 4 external 3.5's will hold 5hdd's + a cdrom |
| [05:21:29] | kc: | check the icydock 5 in 3 (even though it's out of stock) |
| [05:21:56] | mzb: | which totally blows out the cost |
| [05:22:35] | kc: | That's why I pointed you to the $25 case ;) |
| [05:22:37] | mzb: | for third/half the price I could get a Setto or a Sumo (Gigabyte) |
| [05:22:39] | wagnerrp: | isnt your current backend in a cabinet? |
| [05:22:55] | mzb: | heh ... no that's the router/pbx/ups |
| [05:23:12] | mzb: | http://www.users.on.net/~marcusbrutus/mythtv/ . . . 14_Tuner.jpg |
| [05:23:26] | mzb: | just put a Seasonic X-650 in it |
| [05:23:32] | mzb: | but got issues with cables |
| [05:23:47] | mzb: | going to have to take it apart again and move drives around |
| [05:23:48] | mzb: | BUT |
| [05:24:14] | mzb: | there's a store atm that has FREE (birthday) shipping and good prices |
| [05:24:18] | mzb: | so I'm tempted |
| [05:24:52] | mzb: | already got an Elite 100 and E35M1-M (PRO) |
| [05:25:37] | wagnerrp: | got any welding equipment? |
| [05:27:39] | mzb: | hehe |
| [05:27:47] | mzb: | yes, as it happens |
| [05:28:14] | mzb: | but I've learned to arc-weld from watching youtube videos, so I can't say I'm that good at it ;) |
| [05:29:09] | mzb: | come to think of it ... I've got my sums wrong |
| [05:29:20] | mzb: | 8 sata + 4 pata |
| [05:29:21] | wagnerrp: | im planning on building my parents a backend later this year |
| [05:29:38] | wagnerrp: | and im intending to build it into a tool storage cabinet |
| [05:29:49] | mzb: | must be 4+4+1+1 that I've got atm (not 4+5...) |
| [05:29:51] | wagnerrp: | something that would hang on the wall, maybe 6" tall |
| [05:29:53] | mzb: | nice |
| [05:30:25] | wagnerrp: | basically, a vertical version of this... http://blog.backblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/ . . . ed-large.jpg |
| [05:30:30] | mzb: | iconic Ra 2000 looks pretty |
| [05:30:42] | mzb: | gee |
| [05:31:02] | wagnerrp: | 6" deep, rather |
| [05:31:24] | mzb: | can't imagine getting much air between/around those drives ;) |
| [05:31:31] | wagnerrp: | slot the bottom of the cabinet |
| [05:31:48] | wagnerrp: | mount a row of fans, a single row of drives, another row of fans |
| [05:31:58] | wagnerrp: | above that, have the motherboard, and PSU |
| [05:32:18] | wagnerrp: | above that, cable boxes, networking switches, patch panels for phone and network |
| [05:32:43] | wagnerrp: | vents out the top, with rubberized holes for cable bundles |
| [05:33:16] | mzb: | nice |
| [05:33:50] | mzb: | from looking at my bank a/c, and the prices on this site, I can find 3 suitable cases (I think) |
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| [05:34:10] | mzb: | NZXT Tempest EVO for $104.50 |
| [05:34:12] | wagnerrp: | but building such a thing would require fabrication and welding |
| [05:34:18] | wagnerrp: | hence... got any welding equipment? |
| [05:34:40] | mzb: | yeah .. but not enough time, and I doubt I'd be able to swing a hammer atm, let alone lift something that heavy |
| [05:35:01] | mzb: | Gigabyte SUMO 4192 for $126.50 |
| [05:35:22] | mzb: | ICONIC Ra 2000 for $141.90 |
| [05:35:41] | mzb: | the Tempest has something like 5x 120mm fans |
| [05:35:48] | mzb: | I *think* by default |
| [05:38:00] | mzb: | yep ... description in the store confirms that |
| [05:40:28] | mzb: | hmmm ... bottom mounted psu :/ |
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| [05:42:08] | mzb: | not sure how they work out the number of drives though ... I only see 9 mounts |
| [05:42:54] | Guest51649: | Hi Guys, I need some help. My system just randomly started a tuner, someone seems to be watching my tv, it looks like it is live tv, is there anyway to see who started watching livetv |
| [05:43:44] | Guest51649: | No one it watching tv in my house, I am a bit worried |
| [05:44:27] | mzb: | ah ... they mount vertically |
| [05:47:36] | Guest51649: | It seems that under my host list in my mythweb settings, there is now a localhost that never used to be there, Any thoughts anyone |
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| [06:23:11] | Beirdo: | wonder how long it will take to upload all my songs to Google Music... |
| [06:23:24] | [R]: | Beirdo: a day |
| [06:23:30] | Beirdo: | likely more |
| [06:23:47] | Beirdo: | I limited it to 256kbit/s |
| [06:24:24] | Beirdo: | having trouble getting the android app to finish installing on my nexus one, but I'll try again tomorrow |
| [06:24:36] | Beirdo: | it's sitting there saying "installing...." |
| [06:24:47] | [R]: | isn't that phone as old as dirt? |
| [06:24:54] | Beirdo: | no |
| [06:25:27] | [R]: | its like 1.5 years old... |
| [06:25:33] | Beirdo: | I don't consider a 1.5yr old phone to be as old as dirt |
| [06:25:35] | Beirdo: | get a life |
| [06:25:37] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:25:37] | [R]: | lol |
| [06:25:47] | Beirdo: | I still have a 6190 around here somewhere |
| [06:25:55] | Beirdo: | THAT one's old as dirt |
| [06:26:15] | [R]: | lol |
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| [06:27:06] | Beirdo: | so since they have no Linux client yet... |
| [06:27:25] | Beirdo: | I mounted the Linux box as NFS on my macbook |
| [06:27:32] | [R]: | sounds dirty |
| [06:27:43] | Beirdo: | why would that be dirty? |
| [06:27:46] | Beirdo: | it's just NFS |
| [06:27:47] | [R]: | you mounted it? |
| [06:28:01] | Beirdo: | uh huh. I see |
| [06:28:05] | [R]: | lol |
| [06:28:46] | Beirdo: | it says 1327 songs |
| [06:28:58] | Beirdo: | figuring most came right off LP.. |
| [06:30:45] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: ive got one of those sitting around somewhere |
| [06:30:50] | wagnerrp: | needs a battery though |
| [06:30:57] | wagnerrp: | not sure i even have the crager |
| [06:31:01] | wagnerrp: | charger |
| [06:31:14] | Beirdo: | 6190? :) |
| [06:31:26] | Beirdo: | I have a few chargers somewhere |
| [06:31:40] | Beirdo: | that was one heck of a phone |
| [06:32:07] | wagnerrp: | robust one in any case |
| [06:32:26] | Beirdo: | yup. Not much of a toy, but a great phone |
| [06:34:04] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: you try the new debug OSD markk added? |
| [06:35:13] | Beirdo: | I think I'll increase the font size some, but otherwise, pretty cool |
| [06:35:23] | wagnerrp: | nope, im a couple days old |
| [06:35:29] | wagnerrp: | and havent actually used mythtv this weeek |
| [06:35:32] | Beirdo: | it's pretty cool |
| [06:36:04] | Beirdo: | shows the bitrate being used by the decoder, and the bitrate at which the ringbuffer's being filled... and how much buffer's used |
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| [06:36:34] | Beirdo: | the font's small enough that I can't read it across the room, but it's cool |
| [06:36:57] | wagnerrp: | maybe in the morning |
| [06:36:59] | wagnerrp: | tired |
| [06:37:03] | [R]: | wagnerrp: that's what she said |
| [06:37:03] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [06:43:51] | Beirdo: | I think this song nes more cowbell |
| [06:44:34] | Beirdo: | needs rather |
| [06:44:53] | Beirdo: | hard to believe that this song was a precursor to metal |
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| [11:51:58] | arussel: | I'm looking for a video manager (mainly family video done with my webcam/mobile phone). With tag, upload to youtube, basic editing ... is mythtv the solution ? (something like digikam for video) |
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| [12:05:05] | _gunni_: | arussel: mythtv is mainly a video recorder and tv watching program. |
| [12:05:47] | arussel: | ok, thanks. not really not what I'm looking for. any ideas on linux ? |
| [12:06:17] | _gunni_: | digikam can manage videos, too afaik |
| [12:06:43] | _gunni_: | Ok, only basic video features ... |
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| [12:08:19] | _gunni_: | Most video collection managers i know are for cinema movies, not home movies ... http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/127174 |
| [12:12:01] | arussel: | yep, I've read that page. digikam is good but it doesn't even give a thumbnail for the video (when nautilus has it) |
| [12:15:07] | _gunni_: | arussel: For me it shows thumbnails of videos |
| [12:15:31] | _gunni_: | As you say nautilus, do you use gnome as DE? |
| [12:16:07] | arussel: | last ubuntu, it is neither I think (but not sure, used to be gnome) |
| [12:16:42] | _gunni_: | Ah, ok unity. Maybe installing "mplayerthumbs" can give you thumbnails for videos then |
| [12:17:00] | arussel: | thanks for your help, I'll try it |
| [12:17:17] | _gunni_: | mplayerthumbs generates the thumbs for videos in kde and maybe digikam relies on that kde thumbs |
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| [12:32:39] | arussel: | _gunni_: works really well, thanks for your help, I'll use digikam |
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| [12:33:04] | _gunni_: | Your welcome. Happy that i could help you :) |
| [12:34:30] | _gunni_: | Maybe if you contact the kipi plugin developers they could write a youtube export plugin |
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| [14:19:28] | sphery: | wagnerrp: But what about George Takei? I thought that was enough reason to buy Quattron. |
| [14:20:59] | sphery: | totally agree with the 3D comments, though |
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| [14:57:14] | jpabq: | Look up the weather for Albuquerque, and the forcast is for smoke. |
| [14:57:49] | jpabq: | Since that is what we have had now for over a day, it is not a hard forecast to make. |
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| [16:21:56] | DeviceZer0: | hello all. my hdpvr seems to have messed up...the recording light was on but mythtv was unable to record from it...even though it tried. Ive missed a few shows and im trying to figure out what ones i missed. Im not seeing any names in the backend log...is there any way to determine what shows where missed? |
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| [16:22:12] | DeviceZer0: | the error i was getting was: |
| [16:22:14] | DeviceZer0: | 2011-06–04 08:59:16.565 Channel(/dev/video0) Error: SetInputAndFormat(1, NTSC) |
| [16:22:21] | DeviceZer0: | eno: Connection timed out (110) |
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| [16:25:00] | DeviceZer0: | nm i was able to track them down i think...\ |
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| [16:27:04] | wagnerrp: | power cycle it |
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| [16:43:21] | sphery: | DeviceZer0: and see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/478608#478608 + http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/479733#479733 if you're interested |
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| [17:08:43] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo/sphery: around? |
| [17:12:33] | wagnerrp: | anyway, were you planning an email 'sink' for the new logging interface? |
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| [17:32:00] | sphery: | wagnerrp: am now |
| [17:32:47] | sphery: | not sure... he mentioned something about e-mail, but I was thinking he was considering an external script filtering or something |
| [17:34:38] | wagnerrp: | ok, just cleaning up the feature requests |
| [17:34:52] | wagnerrp: | and there was one for a daily email of a 'digest' of the logs |
| [17:35:20] | sphery: | ok, I stand corrected... /I/ was talking about external programs: http://pastebin.com/5xWcZeSC (that's an extract from a PM where we were discussing new logging) |
| [17:36:17] | sphery: | I do think using a program designed for that makes more sense, though |
| [17:37:24] | sphery: | could be anything from a program like swatch (log filter) that triggers an e-mail on critical messages to a script that can be run in a daily cron to filter messages and summarize "important" info (where the subjectiveness of "important" means we'd likely have to have different scripts for different users) |
| [17:37:41] | sphery: | after all, our log levels aren't really set up for summarization or whatever |
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| [17:38:39] | sphery: | and with the DB logger, it would actually be relatively easy to get some interesting summary/stat info... which backends are running/logging info, how many recordings started, transcodes, commflags, failures, ... |
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| [18:16:31] | JohnP789: | I've got a fresh install of MythTV 0.24.1 on a Fedora 15 box, and everything is great, except the sound goes crazy when I hit FastForward in a recording. |
| [18:16:39] | JohnP789: | What can I try to fix it? |
| [18:16:49] | JohnP789: | I'm using Pulseaudio:default for sound output. |
| [18:19:29] | wagnerrp: | why? |
| [18:19:54] | JohnP789: | wagnerrp, It's the default. |
| [18:20:07] | JohnP789: | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /304597.html |
| [18:20:16] | JohnP789: | That link looks relevant. I'm going to try that. |
| [18:20:52] | wagnerrp: | try shutting down pulseaudio, and using alsa directly |
| [18:21:06] | wagnerrp: | its not so much default |
| [18:21:15] | wagnerrp: | as the only output detected by mythfrontend |
| [18:21:37] | wagnerrp: | disable pulseaudio, and you should have the whole range of possible alsa outputs available |
| [18:22:54] | JohnP789: | wagnerrp, I've had lots of problems with Pulseaudio over the years, but I don't want to throw it out just yet. |
| [18:23:07] | wagnerrp: | yeah, you really do |
| [18:23:09] | JohnP789: | The advice to change Pulseaudio's default samplerate to 48000 seems to work. |
| [18:23:14] | JohnP789: | No more static! |
| [18:23:20] | wagnerrp: | only a very small percentage of linux users have any use for pulseaudio |
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| [18:24:38] | wagnerrp: | that small percentage would be people wanting to switch between different outputs dynamically, or use bluetooth headsets, or use remote audio |
| [18:24:59] | wagnerrp: | except honestly, everything but bluetooth would be better served with the pre-existing JACK |
| [18:25:07] | JohnP789: | wagnerrp, I actually do switch to a bluetooth headset sometimes. |
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| [18:50:47] | yates: | is it unreasonable to expect a 3.2 GHz AMD Phenom II 955 to decode a 1080p .mkv in real-time? |
| [18:51:00] | yates: | without GPU assistance? |
| [18:51:04] | [R]: | "1080p mkv" means nothing |
| [18:51:23] | wagnerrp: | what he said |
| [18:51:38] | wagnerrp: | what encoding options did you use to create that "1080p mkv"? |
| [18:52:02] | yates: | doesn't it mean an hd format with 1920x1080 progressive scan embedded in an .mkv container format? i believe it is .h264 |
| [18:52:13] | wagnerrp: | yes, thats what it means |
| [18:52:16] | yates: | i did not encode it. |
| [18:52:37] | [R]: | dun dun dun |
| [18:52:39] | wagnerrp: | but there is a VAST difference in requirements between 1080p huffman, and 100mbps CABAC H264 |
| [18:52:39] | [R]: | the plot thickens |
| [18:53:10] | yates: | can i dump the encoding information from the file somehow? i'm running f13 |
| [18:53:12] | wagnerrp: | we need to know the encoding options before we can say one way or another whether that CPU has sufficient performance to decode that content |
| [18:54:13] | wagnerrp: | if x264 was used as the encoder, it will dump those options as a text stream into the first few KB of the raw video |
| [18:54:29] | wagnerrp: | matroska lines up the raw streams on byte boundaries |
| [18:54:43] | wagnerrp: | so if you 'less' the file, it will show up as plain text in the first few pages |
| [18:54:43] | yates: | [lavf] stream 0: video (h264), -vid 0 |
| [18:57:48] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [18:59:08] | yates: | hang on ... |
| [19:01:27] | yates: | http://fpaste.org/3HOZ/ |
| [19:02:11] | yates: | wagnerrp, [R]: is that the information you're looking for? |
| [19:02:33] | wagnerrp: | no, it was not |
| [19:02:40] | wagnerrp: | open the file with 'less' |
| [19:02:48] | wagnerrp: | hit pagedown a couple times |
| [19:02:56] | wagnerrp: | if what im looking for is in there |
| [19:02:57] | yates: | that gives mess a lot of funny chars. |
| [19:03:05] | yates: | s/mess// |
| [19:03:10] | wagnerrp: | it should be very visible with the first few pages |
| [19:03:52] | yates: | is this it? http://fpaste.org/83j5/ |
| [19:04:23] | wagnerrp: | thats it |
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| [19:05:16] | yates: | cabac=1 |
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| [19:05:28] | wagnerrp: | 3-sliced CABAC at 9.4Mbps, that processor will have no trouble handling it |
| [19:05:42] | yates: | well it seems to be. |
| [19:06:00] | wagnerrp: | what video card? |
| [19:06:22] | yates: | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1) |
| [19:06:35] | wagnerrp: | youre using the Slim profile? |
| [19:06:46] | wagnerrp: | and the nvidia proprietary drivers? |
| [19:07:15] | yates: | wagnerrp: i don't know what the "Slim" profile means. I am using the proprietary drivers |
| [19:07:48] | yates: | is "Slim" a mythtv thing? |
| [19:07:59] | yates: | i'm just trying to play this on a normal f13 system. |
| [19:09:03] | yates: | i'm using mplayer with ffmpeg's libavcodec [ffh264] |
| [19:09:22] | wagnerrp: | mplayer for what? |
| [19:09:47] | yates: | is there some benchmark test i can run to test my system? |
| [19:09:57] | yates: | to play the video. |
| [19:10:19] | wagnerrp: | we dont support mplayer |
| [19:10:25] | wagnerrp: | we support the 'Internal' player |
| [19:10:27] | yates: | what do you use? |
| [19:10:44] | wagnerrp: | if you cant get the video to play using mplayer, you need to request help from them |
| [19:10:44] | yates: | can i install and run that player on a normal f13 system? |
| [19:11:00] | wagnerrp: | theres nothing to install |
| [19:11:06] | wagnerrp: | its the internal player, built into mythfrontend |
| [19:12:29] | yates: | can i install mythtv-frontend to my f13 system and then use that to play the video? |
| [19:12:51] | yates: | that is, is there any reason you know that wouldn't work? |
| [19:13:08] | wagnerrp: | wait... youre not using mythtv currently? |
| [19:13:27] | yates: | i believe i've stated that at least twice now. |
| [19:13:37] | wagnerrp: | then why are you here? |
| [19:14:26] | yates: | sorry, i assumed that you wouldn't mind helping other people get videos running. and pick some info on mythtv at the same time. apparently i was in error. |
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| [19:14:35] | yates: | s/pick/pick up/ |
| [19:14:41] | wagnerrp: | if you are not using mythtv, then we cant very well help you play video in mythtv |
| [19:15:04] | wagnerrp: | if you need help playing video in mplayer, then try #mplayer for assistance |
| [19:15:27] | yates: | wagnerrp: this is a multidimensional situation – it may be that mplayer is just fine. |
| [19:15:51] | yates: | i thought folks here would have more knowledge on how various cpus can cope with various decoding tasks |
| [19:15:57] | wagnerrp: | clearly not, since you are claiming mplayer is not playing the video properly |
| [19:16:25] | yates: | what is clear and not clear depends on one's knowledge. |
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| [19:16:49] | yates: | to my knowledge, it isn't at all clear that it's an issue with mplayer. |
| [19:16:57] | wagnerrp: | are you using mythtv? |
| [19:17:37] | yates: | i can be if, by the phrase "using mythtv" means installing and using what is called "mythtv-frontend" in the fedora repos. |
| [19:17:52] | wagnerrp: | so the answer is no |
| [19:17:59] | wagnerrp: | meaning, this is not a problem with mythtv |
| [19:18:20] | yates: | one answer at a time would be more orderly and clear, but ok. |
| [19:18:57] | yates: | thanks for your <ahem> help. |
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| [19:19:10] | wagnerrp: | how can i help you with someone elses program? |
| [19:19:12] | wagnerrp: | sheesh... |
| [19:19:22] | wagnerrp: | emacs irc user... should have figured |
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| [19:22:43] | yates: | if I were to have mythtv installed on this system, should this system then be capable of playing the reference video? |
| [19:22:57] | yates: | s/reference/referenced/ |
| [19:23:00] | wagnerrp: | do you have a tuner card that you intend to record TV off of? |
| [19:23:23] | yates: | if that is necessary, i will purchase one |
| [19:23:49] | yates: | but i do not currently |
| [19:24:03] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is for recording tv |
| [19:24:14] | wagnerrp: | it requires a tuner card, configured, with guide data, and a backend to manage it |
| [19:24:37] | wagnerrp: | video playback is ancillary to that purpose, and the frontend will not run to allow video playback without a properly configured backend to connect to |
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| [19:24:58] | wagnerrp: | if you are not intending to record tv as your primary purpose, then mythtv is not the correct tool for the job |
| [19:25:15] | wagnerrp: | better to figure out why mplayer, or vlc, or xine, or kaffeine, or whatever is not playing the video properly |
| [19:26:20] | yates: | i hear where you're coming from, and I agree this is typically good advice, but i have been considering building a mythtv system for some time (I've been into linux for about 5 years), so this is a little exploratory |
| [19:26:42] | wagnerrp: | mythtv should be able to play the file |
| [19:26:54] | wagnerrp: | but then so should mplayer, or vlc, or xine, or kaffeine, or... |
| [19:28:11] | yates: | good point. |
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| [20:11:21] | RayBe: | hi all |
| [20:12:03] | RayBe: | does anybody here know what to do when you get: " FAILED: xmltv returned error code 256. "? |
| [20:21:35] | [R]: | where does it say that? |
| [20:22:16] | RayBe: | in webadmin -> MythTV Status |
| [20:23:22] | [R]: | read the logs |
| [20:23:36] | RayBe: | how do i do that? |
| [20:23:39] | [R]: | or manually run mythfilldatabase |
| [20:23:58] | RayBe: | did run manually, same result |
| [20:24:06] | [R]: | pastebin the output |
| [20:24:17] | RayBe: | btw thanks for taking the time to reply |
| [20:24:23] | RayBe: | ok 1 sec |
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| [20:26:30] | RayBe: | well its running now do you want a pastebin of all the lines after i gave the mythfilldatabase-command? |
| [20:27:18] | [R]: | if you dont see the error |
| [20:27:21] | [R]: | yes |
| [20:29:54] | RayBe: | so far i get: http://pastebin.com/SB2vXJnc |
| [20:30:13] | RayBe: | but it is still running |
| [20:31:04] | [R]: | then obviosly there is no error if its still going |
| [20:32:29] | RayBe: | the error has yet to come, it gets channel data (sometimes not) but after that it gets the error and i always have to manually run mythfilldatabase |
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| [21:10:01] | mtrelinsomething: | hi guys, @wagnerp @justinh – got 0.24.1 working flawlessly up to 1080i on my acer revo – the solution was in the vdpau options |
| [21:10:30] | mtrelinsomething: | vdpauskipchroma,vdpaubuffersize=42,vdpaustudio,vdpaucolorspace=auto |
| [21:10:43] | mtrelinsomething: | disabled deblocking, disabled osd fade |
| [21:12:22] | mtrelinsomething: | backend has irrelevant hardware but 2 x hd-pvr |
| [21:13:59] | mtrelinsomething: | should i post to the wiki? |
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| [21:31:25] | clgshaft: | Not working |
| [21:31:54] | clgshaft: | What type of tuner should the 250 and 1600 be setup as? |
| [21:35:30] | clgshaft: | Nm, got it |
| [21:36:41] | trumee: | I am trying to setup a custom rule using mythweb. How do i specify to record the program on all days except sunday? |
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| [21:46:08] | squish103: | trumee ive never tried. could you ot set up 6 rules... one for each day you want to record? (i'm a noob) |
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| [21:48:04] | trumee: | squish103: probably, but i wanted to avoid 6 rules by using a custom rule. |
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| [21:58:25] | sphery: | trumee: see the example clauses Anytime on a specific day of the week and Only on weekdays (Monday through Friday) and WEEKDAY(program.starttime) >= 5 in mythfrontend's custom rules editor to find an example of the approaches you can use |
| [21:59:37] | sphery: | clgshaft (who'se no longer here): IVTV MPEG-2 encoder card and if you choose anything else (like because that option isn't in your build), it won't work... Note that on a 2.6.38+ system, you need a version of MythTV 0.24-fixes from May 30 or after |
| [22:01:09] | trumee: | sphery: thanks for that. Can i insert this sql entry using mythweb custom schedule-> Power search? |
| [22:01:28] | tank-man: | why is mythtv 0.24+ needed for systems with those kernel versions? |
| [22:01:45] | [R]: | tank-man: because they changed stuff in 38 |
| [22:01:56] | [R]: | tank-man: and only that version and up has support for it |
| [22:02:25] | tgm4883: | sphery, that makes more sense. I was just looking it up and thinking he needed to have findday != 1 |
| [22:02:32] | tgm4883: | IDK if that would have worked though |
| [22:02:57] | tank-man: | i am on a recent kernel (2.6.38.4) with an older mythtv (0.21) |
| [22:03:32] | tgm4883: | [R], not entirely correct |
| [22:03:38] | tgm4883: | that only matters if you are using 0.24 |
| [22:03:58] | tgm4883: | if you use 0.24 on a 2.6.38+ kernel, you need to be using a build from May 30 or later |
| [22:04:19] | [R]: | so 23 is ok? |
| [22:05:13] | tgm4883: | [R], IDK is 0.23 is specifically OK, basically it's whenever upstream removed the video headers |
| [22:05:30] | [R]: | huh? |
| [22:05:31] | tgm4883: | (upstream being mythtv) |
| [22:05:35] | [R]: | oh |
| [22:05:36] | [R]: | lol |
| [22:06:13] | sphery: | trumee: you can, or just add it with mythfrontend, then edit it with mythweb |
| [22:06:24] | tgm4883: | so mythtv use to ship some video headers, then decided not to since it was in the kernel. Then the kernel removed the V4L1 headers and replaced it with V4L2 headers, and thats when it broke in mythtv |
| [22:06:26] | tgm4883: | or something like that |
| [22:06:36] | trumee: | sphery: thanks |
| [22:06:50] | sphery: | tank-man: I said 2.6.38+ system, not "a system running 2.6.38+ kernel" |
| [22:07:04] | sphery: | tank-man: the difference is whether the /system/ was built on 2.6.38 headers or not |
| [22:07:07] | tgm4883: | [R], there is a workaround in 0.24 after May 30th, and IIRC it is fixed in 0.25 |
| [22:07:13] | trumee: | sphery: i would prefer to insert directly using mythweb as i am nowhere near the FE |
| [22:07:15] | [R]: | tgm4883: yes, i know that much |
| [22:07:43] | sphery: | tank-man: currently running kernel is irrelevant |
| [22:07:44] | tgm4883: | sphery, any news on a 0.25 release? |
| [22:08:05] | sphery: | tgm4883: haven't heard any discussion of it lately |
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| [22:08:17] | tgm4883: | sphery, I'll probably bug you guys about this weekly up until it can't get into 11.10 anymore |
| [22:08:30] | sphery: | think we're trying to figure out whether we can get the http setup done or if we need to do a 0.25 without it |
| [22:08:38] | sphery: | heh |
| [22:10:22] | sphery: | and, yeah, 0.23-fixes and below (to at least 0.21-fixes) should be fine with 2.6.38+ systems because those versions didn't use the kernel V4L headers (they provided their own--which is what 0.24-fixes started doing late on May 29th) |
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| [22:11:44] | sphery: | we removed those V4L headers from MythTV right before 0.24 was released thinking, "All distros should have videodev.h and videodev2.h, by now, and since users complain that we're using old ones, we can get rid of them." |
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| [22:11:52] | sphery: | then the kernel dropped videodev.h, so... |
| [22:14:01] | tgm4883: | sphery, when would you guys need to set a release date in order to release by August 11th |
| [22:14:24] | sphery: | heh, no later than Aug 10th |
| [22:14:56] | sphery: | though we'd be best off having at least a month of pre-release testing |
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| [22:15:09] | sphery: | / feature freeze |
| [22:15:16] | tgm4883: | heh |
| [22:15:35] | tgm4883: | so Julyish then? |
| [22:15:43] | sphery: | I'm trying to find the specific user comment about how brain dead MythTV devs must be for shipping their own copy of videodev.h |
| [22:15:49] | tgm4883: | I'll probably be bugging you guys weekly until then |
| [22:15:56] | sphery: | it--especially in light of recent kernel changes--was classic |
| [22:16:19] | sphery: | our brain-deadedness meant that all our old versions worked fine with new kernel |
| [22:16:35] | sphery: | but our new version--which was no longer brain dead--failed to work due to kernel header changes |
| [22:16:37] | tgm4883: | sphery, new comment? |
| [22:16:57] | sphery: | no, it was right before we removed videodev*_myth.h |
| [22:17:01] | sphery: | so just before 0.24 release |
| [22:17:17] | tgm4883: | ah |
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| [22:19:32] | tank-man: | mythtv sources are on github now? |
| [22:20:06] | tank-man: | i see |
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| [22:22:54] | sphery: | So, for fun reminiscing (with name removed to protect the guilty--as he wasn't the only user complaining): "vbi.c is broken in mythtv\nsome smart*** copied api definitions from videodev2 into it and got it wrong\nit should include videodev2.h" |
| [22:23:24] | sphery: | though at the time he complained our copy of videodev2_myth.h was unchanged for 7 years (and wasn't incorrect, and wasn't the source of his problem) |
| [22:23:46] | sphery: | tank-man: yeah |
| [22:23:54] | sphery: | tank-man: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ |
| [22:24:09] | sphery: | you likely want the "Stable: If you'd like to get the 0.24 stable branch, do this: " stuff |
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| [22:28:18] | tank-man: | yea, i want to update as i want to test mythweb with my new tablet :) |
| [22:30:20] | sphery: | cool |
| [22:30:27] | sphery: | I think 0.24-fixes is well worth the time for an upgrade |
| [22:31:22] | sphery: | I actually upgraded to 0.24-fixes from 0.23-fixes during the TV season (whereas I stuck with 0.21-fixes until the end of the TV season, meaning I misssed 0.22 and upgraded to 0.23-fixes just a couple months before 0.24 came out) |
| [22:31:43] | sphery: | in other words, it was worth the risk to me because of all the niceness in it |
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| [22:43:20] | trumee: | sphery: i gave the following query, program.title LIKE '%DARE%' AND HOUR(program.starttime)<=9 AND channel.callsign='CV' AND cardinput.cardinputid = 2 |
| [22:43:35] | trumee: | sphery: it doesnt like my cardinput statement. |
| [22:43:53] | trumee: | i want to specify the input as well. |
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| [22:52:52] | sphery: | scheduling is unrelated to placement |
| [22:53:14] | sphery: | so it will be scheduled or not, then it will be placed onto an input (or not if there's a conflict) |
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| [22:54:00] | sphery: | if you do successfully work input into the scheduler query, that won't keep it from recording on another input, assuming multiple inputs use the same video source |
| [22:54:10] | sphery: | you /can/ filter scheduling by channel/video source |
| [22:54:15] | sphery: | and that will work properly |
| [22:55:36] | trumee: | sphery: cheers |
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