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[02:33:26] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
[02:33:46] | Beirdo: | Barrett's Privateers :) |
[02:33:50] | Beirdo: | original recording |
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[02:50:34] | wagnerrp: | ? |
[02:55:15] | Beirdo: | you've never heard the song? |
[02:55:27] | Beirdo: | it's kinda a pirate shanty. |
[02:55:40] | Beirdo: | I know GreyFoxx knows it :) |
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[03:46:41] | Beirdo: | I love Linus' 3.0 kernel announcement |
[03:47:36] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: you will particularly enjoy this part: |
[03:47:54] | Beirdo: | "Part of that is that I'm going |
[03:47:54] | Beirdo: | to be traveling next week with a slow atom laptop, so you had better |
[03:47:55] | Beirdo: | convince me I *really* want to pull from you, because that thing |
[03:47:57] | Beirdo: | really is not the most impressive piece of hardware ever built." |
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[03:48:26] | ** Beirdo slaps putty for splitting that into 4 lines ** | |
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[03:48:43] | [R]: | lol |
[03:49:03] | Beirdo: | hit LKML on Saturday in case y'all were wondering |
[03:49:07] | [R]: | isn't 'slow atom' being a bit redundant? |
[03:49:25] | wagnerrp: | they dont make laptops with Atom processors in them |
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[03:49:35] | Beirdo: | sure they do |
[03:49:41] | Beirdo: | they call them "netbooks" |
[03:49:51] | ** Beirdo is typing on one right now ** | |
[03:50:28] | Beirdo: | and yeah, it's an horribly slow little beastlet |
[03:50:41] | wagnerrp: | right, not-a-laptop |
[03:51:10] | Beirdo: | whatever, works better as an actual laptop than most laptops |
[03:51:14] | Beirdo: | less nad-burning |
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[03:51:55] | wagnerrp: | nonsense |
[03:52:14] | Beirdo: | I'm just happy that when I got it, the now-ex-wife ALLOWED me to buy it |
[03:52:16] | wagnerrp: | ive got a 10yr old machine that idles around 10W |
[03:52:48] | Beirdo: | of all the portable computers I've used, this one is the most lap friendly |
[03:53:19] | ** Beirdo is ripping some Genesis ** | |
[03:53:55] | Beirdo: | not much wonder that Phil Collins is a rich guy |
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[03:54:31] | Beirdo: | sorry. |
[03:54:35] | Beirdo: | Sir Phil Collins |
[03:54:36] | Beirdo: | heh |
[03:55:43] | Beirdo: | LVO? Wow, they sure went high with his honours |
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[03:58:56] | Beirdo: | so that's one short of a Sir, I guess... anyways, good music |
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[04:08:17] | Beirdo: | gotta remember to find ear plugs this week |
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[05:41:14] | Beirdo: | you know what MythTV needs? |
[05:41:22] | Beirdo: | more cowbell! |
[05:43:24] | [R]: | i put my pants on one let at a time, but afterwards, i make gold records |
[05:43:44] | wagnerrp: | one let? |
[05:44:40] | Beirdo: | heh |
[05:45:12] | Beirdo: | sorry, just finished cleaning a Blue Oyster Cult LP for ripping later :) |
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[05:45:35] | [R]: | leg* |
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[06:19:12] | Beirdo: | just what the heck is the point of mythcommflag --skipdb? |
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[06:31:09] | ** justinh thends thome death over IP to the 'mything thomething' thread ** | |
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[06:32:02] | [R]: | Beirdo: using it w/o myth |
[06:32:33] | [R]: | Beirdo: theres this guy who makes a comm skip app for mac and he uses the mythcommflag directly |
[06:32:39] | [R]: | outside of the context of myth |
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[06:33:33] | Beirdo: | so in other words, no use at all |
[06:35:36] | Beirdo: | mythcommflag is not being maintained so other people can co-opt it into their purposes. It's being maintained for mythv use. |
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[06:36:35] | justinh: | hahaha the guy using EIT on the users ML... Recording Oprah. Nobody should let him live that one down. My wife records some pretty sad stuff but nothing *that* bad |
[06:38:04] | justinh: | so with --skipdb what does mythcommflag do exactly? pass the found points out? |
[06:38:16] | justinh: | I'm guessing it must do or it really would be no use |
[06:38:37] | Beirdo: | dumps to a text file, accordign to README.txt |
[06:39:08] | [R]: | there is/was a bug report about it being broken |
[06:39:12] | Beirdo: | I will talk it over with Captain_Murdoch... Someone needs to maintain this and I don't know if he's planning on it |
[06:39:13] | [R]: | is that what made you ask? |
[06:39:27] | Beirdo: | yes, I'm going through the bug reports |
[06:39:46] | [R]: | the guy who filed the report is the author of said mac app |
[06:39:57] | Beirdo: | yeah, well, pffft |
[06:40:03] | [R]: | i think he uses the windows version through wine, and wants to use the mythcommflag directly |
[06:40:09] | [R]: | the windows forked versoin |
[06:40:14] | [R]: | i forget it's name |
[06:40:19] | Beirdo: | if it's too much trouble to maintain, I don't know if it will stay forever |
[06:40:55] | Beirdo: | be nice to keep, but still... |
[06:42:29] | justinh: | hmmm. Senior Quality Technician... nah don't want that |
[06:42:58] | justinh: | certainly not at only £22k on shifts. Bleh |
[06:43:11] | Beirdo: | I figure we'll have to add more funky code to support it correctly |
[06:43:20] | Beirdo: | 22k/yr? |
[06:43:39] | justinh: | yup, including shift allowance. |
[06:43:47] | Beirdo: | for senior? I guess the UK has a different payscale than the US |
[06:44:04] | Beirdo: | I'd tell them exactly where to shove that |
[06:44:09] | justinh: | depends. jobs in manufacturing generally pay poorly |
[06:44:44] | Beirdo: | ahhh, figures |
[06:44:52] | justinh: | I've seen one job which looks like basically installing servers (unix, linux) following instructions & sorting out hardware issues.. £40k+benefits |
[06:45:04] | Beirdo: | that's more like |
[06:45:14] | justinh: | only trouble is I don't have any real world linux/unix chops |
[06:45:22] | Beirdo: | GBP still ~= 2 USD? |
[06:45:28] | justinh: | no |
[06:45:35] | justinh: | more like 1.6 last time I looked |
[06:45:44] | Beirdo: | wow |
[06:45:56] | Beirdo: | you took a tumble too then. ouch |
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[06:46:11] | justinh: | 1.64 according to xe.com right now |
[06:46:36] | justinh: | anyway 40k is much more than I'm on now. like about 15k more |
[06:46:40] | Beirdo: | 64kUS for that job? It'd be at the low side of what I'd consider, but depends on particlars |
[06:46:51] | Beirdo: | ahh. |
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[06:47:21] | Beirdo: | there's a lot of hidden responsibility in that type of job |
[06:47:29] | justinh: | I can imagine |
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[06:47:40] | Beirdo: | especially once the words "on-call" come into the discussion |
[06:47:59] | Beirdo: | I'm technically on-call 24/7 |
[06:48:20] | Beirdo: | thankfully, the NOC does most of it without having to call me |
[06:48:27] | justinh: | a friend of mine up North is doing similar stuff for a networking job, on call.. doesn't mean that much |
[06:48:40] | justinh: | especially if he manages to log in remotely ;) |
[06:48:43] | Beirdo: | it can be absolute hell |
[06:49:04] | justinh: | still though.. 40k is 40k.. and this job can be absolute hell in terms of morale |
[06:49:22] | Beirdo: | if the systems/network/apps are bad enough... it's more disruptive than having a baby (to sleep) |
[06:49:43] | Beirdo: | hey, if it's a step up, it's maybe worth it :) |
[06:50:10] | Beirdo: | I love doing the embedded systems stuff, but doing sysadmin stuff has its advantages too |
[06:50:36] | justinh: | like the other day I got an email from a manager saying he looked at the wiki page where I wrote up my camera evaluation, saying it was ****ing useless because the images were all too small. Looked fine to me. Turned out they were fine once he looked in a decent browser. He didn't apologise |
[06:51:21] | Beirdo: | of course not |
[06:51:37] | Beirdo: | he's a manager. his job is to be a douchebag. |
[06:51:45] | Beirdo: | sounds like he's doing a good job |
[06:51:46] | Beirdo: | heh |
[06:51:47] | justinh: | I'm terrified about actually pulling this move off. getting a new job up there is one thing. Selling our current house & buying a new one... spare me that! |
[06:52:01] | Beirdo: | heh |
[06:52:08] | Beirdo: | I can believe that |
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[06:52:39] | justinh: | mind, for what our house is worth down here I can get a 4 bedroom detached house with double garage – currently living in a 3 bed semi-detached with on-street parking |
[06:52:40] | MilkBoy: | mmm. mortgage =) |
[06:53:07] | justinh: | house prices are higher here. must be the 'bright lights' of Manchester |
[06:53:12] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[06:53:26] | Beirdo: | does anyone sound as bad as Ozzy? |
[06:53:44] | justinh: | Oh, and we'll save a fortune on home & car insurance too. Looked at the crime stats for up there again... very little in the way of violent crime compared to here |
[06:53:47] | Beirdo: | (who, oddly enough, I can understand pretty well) |
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[06:53:55] | justinh: | Beirdo: no. nobody sounds as bad as Ozzy |
[06:54:14] | Beirdo: | yah, didn't think so. That's the many decades of drugs.... |
[06:54:38] | Beirdo: | to paraphrase Monty Python... Ozzy himself was permanently pissed. |
[06:54:40] | justinh: | Beirdo: did you see any clips of Cheryl Cole on TV over there? That's what people (kind of) sound like where I come from |
[06:54:57] | Beirdo: | Hmmm, not that I know of |
[06:55:30] | justinh: | whatever you do, don't look at Geordie Shore. jees. |
[06:55:54] | Beirdo: | she's supposed to be on X Factor as a judge, but I won't stoop to watching that shite |
[06:56:17] | justinh: | it's like MTV's 'Real World' but all the housemates are thuggish narcicists who drink too much |
[06:56:32] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[06:57:08] | Beirdo: | I dunno, I was am rather blessed with being able to understand accents fairly easily |
[06:57:16] | justinh: | not a very good advert for that part of the world ;-) |
[06:57:33] | Beirdo: | my Grade 2 teacher was from UK somewhere (forget where) |
[06:58:07] | Beirdo: | had a coworker fresh from Glasgow... I was the only one who could figure out WTF he was saying fora week or two. :) |
[06:58:20] | Beirdo: | he was cool though |
[06:59:10] | justinh: | lol |
[06:59:18] | justinh: | speak *slowly* |
[06:59:32] | justinh: | have a look at Rab C Nesbit ;-) |
[06:59:47] | justinh: | my favourite Scot |
[07:00:11] | Beirdo: | heh, I DID tell him to slow the hell down once |
[07:00:39] | Beirdo: | he didn't appreciate the jokes about sheep too much though :) |
[07:00:40] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[07:01:05] | justinh: | eh? sheep is for welshmen |
[07:01:13] | Beirdo: | hehe. |
[07:01:26] | Beirdo: | why do scots wear kilts? |
[07:01:37] | Beirdo: | sheep can hear zippers a mile away |
[07:01:42] | justinh: | LOL |
[07:01:52] | Beirdo: | he frowned pretty hard at that one |
[07:01:53] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[07:02:51] | Beirdo: | but anyways :) |
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[07:07:16] | Beirdo: | and I miss having some Aussie shows to watch |
[07:09:29] | justinh: | ROFL http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=46508 |
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[07:41:31] | Beirdo: | come on, trac, stop sucking |
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[08:33:05] | justinh: | yup |
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[09:50:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, I think daniel added the skipdb option to mythcommflag, you may want to check with him. I personally think that if someone wants to use mythcommflag standalone, that they can maintain their own patch. we shouldn't be required to spend much time on a feature that isn't even for use with MythTV. |
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[13:39:55] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch / Beirdo : agreed 100% that we shouldn't be wasting time maintaining a "use mythcommflag without MythTV option" (we have enough to do maintaining MythTV stuff on its own :) |
[13:40:16] | iamlindoro: | Fourth'd |
[13:40:34] | sphery: | :) |
[13:40:58] | sphery: | someone is on irc early :) |
[13:41:24] | iamlindoro: | About to head to work and glanced at the screen-- but always up this early... I am just usually in the pool right now |
[13:41:43] | sphery: | ahhh |
[13:41:54] | sphery: | today's a bike or run day, then? |
[13:42:21] | iamlindoro: | both |
[13:42:36] | iamlindoro: | ok, off to work |
[13:42:52] | sphery: | have fun |
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[15:45:50] | Slasher`: | iamlindoro i bought one of them WinTV-PVR-150 Low Profile cards |
[15:45:59] | Slasher`: | cost me around $70 shipped though :/ |
[15:46:02] | Slasher`: | plus import tax |
[15:46:06] | Slasher`: | but im sure it'll be worth it |
[15:47:07] | wagnerrp: | ouch |
[15:47:13] | wagnerrp: | should have just gotten a -2200 new |
[15:48:53] | iamlindoro: | 2200 support still isn't near as rock solid as the 150's |
[15:49:01] | wagnerrp: | fair enough |
[15:49:17] | iamlindoro: | I'm not totally clear whether all the mpeg-2 recorder hacks needed for it are in .24, either |
[15:49:24] | iamlindoro: | (though they might be) |
[15:50:30] | wagnerrp: | i thought beirdo took care of those when he picked up his |
[15:51:40] | devinheitmueller: | There are known driver issues with PAL support on the 2200, so a user should probably not pick up that card if he/she plans to use it for analog. |
[15:52:06] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: Beirdo has a 2250, and he did make fixes to Myth to support it. But those are unrelated to driver level issues for PAL. |
[15:52:29] | devinheitmueller: | (the 2250 is the USA equivalent of the 2200) |
[15:53:15] | Slasher`: | to be fair i only plan to use it for input via the sky box |
[15:53:33] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, in that case the 2200 would not be a good choice, since that would require analog. |
[15:54:16] | Slasher`: | even though this 150 is ntsc, i can use a pal sky box to go through s-video |
[15:54:35] | Slasher`: | sucks that my other one i have now uses a frame grabber (or whatever it is/was) for svideo |
[15:54:59] | Slasher`: | im assuming its easy to route sound via the s-video port on the 150? |
[15:55:21] | devinheitmueller: | MythTV does support framegrabbers, but they put additional load on the CPU and they are not as heavily tested by the MythTV developers as MPEG encoders. |
[15:55:28] | wagnerrp: | Slasher`: svideo doesnt do sound |
[15:55:35] | Slasher`: | hmm |
[15:55:37] | wagnerrp: | use the red/white connectors |
[15:55:48] | wagnerrp: | or depending on the board, the 1/8" stereo connector |
[15:55:49] | devinheitmueller: | Slasher`: the PVR-150 has a separate audio left/right input that is used in conjunction with the s-video input. |
[15:55:56] | Slasher`: | the lowprofile version doesnt have red or white connectors |
[15:56:23] | Slasher`: | i do have an adaptor that changes s-video to a red/white/yellow thing though? |
[15:56:41] | Slasher`: | http://www.impactcomputers.com/pg183.html that's the one |
[15:56:48] | devinheitmueller: | Slasher`: what you need is a cable that converts RCA audio (red/white) to 1/8" stereo. |
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[15:57:16] | wagnerrp: | available for a few bucks from any electronics store |
[15:57:20] | devinheitmueller: | Slasher`: basically what you need is one of these: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=rca+ . . . =0CFkQ8gIwAw |
[15:57:45] | Slasher`: | ah, i've got one of them |
[15:58:10] | Slasher`: | that just goes into the blue port on the back of my pc? |
[15:58:48] | devinheitmueller: | Slasher`: no, it plugs into the card itself – it's the third jack from the top. |
[15:59:23] | Slasher`: | oooh |
[15:59:35] | Slasher`: | i thought that was for an infra red port lol |
[15:59:55] | devinheitmueller: | No, MCE cards don't have infrared inputs. You're expected to use an MCE compliance remote and blaster. |
[16:00:04] | Slasher`: | ah, fair |
[16:01:18] | Slasher`: | so i'll need to find a scart to s-video and red/white or use an adaptor on the end of my scart to RCA to convert the yellow to s-video then? |
[16:03:20] | devinheitmueller: | If I recall, you'll need the breakout cable to attach to the white header in order to use s-video or composite input. |
[16:03:28] | devinheitmueller: | I could be mistaken about that though. |
[16:04:13] | Slasher`: | fair, i've got one of them that should do it |
[16:04:15] | devinheitmueller: | Oh, it might use a breakout cable. I don't recall. |
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[16:04:51] | Slasher`: | cheers for the help, once again |
[16:05:05] | devinheitmueller: | np |
[16:05:07] | Slasher`: | if you're ever in the uk up nottinghamshire way let me know so i can buy you a drink ;) |
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[17:04:23] | Beirdo: | Captain_Murdoch: yeah, that was my basic feeling too. :) Good to know that generally speaking we're all on the same page so far. I'll see what danielk thinks as well. |
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[17:18:37] | kep: | Is there known but that when i have 2 dvb-t cards and try to record 2 different channels from different channelgroup (they get shared between device encoders) my filesize keeps for both records only B and it wont even start recording at sometimes. Or am i doing something wrong with config |
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[17:22:40] | wagnerrp: | kep: are you using hybrid tuners, and have not set up the proper input groups to let mythtv know the inputs are mutually exclusive |
[17:23:59] | kep: | wagnerrp: i have different tuners with different cards |
[17:24:06] | kep: | they use different hardware |
[17:24:56] | kep: | and they can only do dvb-t as far as i know. And im only recording dvb-t with them |
[17:26:23] | kep: | i have to admit that i dont fully undestand the idea of input groups etc :\ |
[17:27:00] | wagnerrp: | input groups are when you have multiple mutually exclusive inputs |
[17:27:18] | wagnerrp: | for instance a hybrid tuner that shows up as both an analog or digital tuner, but only one can be used at a tinme |
[17:27:30] | wagnerrp: | or external capture off a set to box, using both firewire and analog |
[17:30:48] | kep: | http://pastebin.com/FkjFvEZP i get following type of error when trying to record |
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[17:48:02] | kep: | Hmm. Wondering will the problem be there that i didnt give different priority between record groups |
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[18:31:42] | flexMVC: | hi all |
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[18:35:26] | flexMVC: | what is the consensus for the best hardware for my pc to make a tivo-like system? |
[18:36:00] | wagnerrp: | frontend and backend? |
[18:36:18] | flexMVC: | yes. I just want to use one desktop box. |
[18:37:09] | flexMVC: | i was looking at hdhomerun |
[18:37:28] | flexMVC: | http://www.silicondust.com/support/hdhomerun/ . . . ions/mythtv/ |
[18:40:51] | flexMVC: | well, I guess no. I want to view on flat tv screen. |
[18:42:44] | wagnerrp: | why would selection of tuner have anything to do with how or what you output video? |
[18:42:46] | flexMVC: | I would need to get an hdmi out on my pc somehow. |
[18:44:07] | flexMVC: | I need a tuner for my pc. What do people like the best? |
[18:45:00] | flexMVC: | i want to record stuff on pc hard drive, and play on tv. |
[18:45:03] | wagnerrp: | hdhomerun works just fine |
[18:45:10] | wagnerrp: | but you wouldnt use a tuner card for output on a tv |
[18:45:25] | wagnerrp: | so selection of tuner card, and display, have nothing to do with each other |
[18:46:13] | flexMVC: | ok. So what is the cheapest and best tuner to work with MythTV? |
[18:46:36] | wagnerrp: | that depends, what do you want to record? |
[18:46:45] | flexMVC: | air |
[18:47:01] | flexMVC: | air antanna. High def |
[18:47:39] | flexMVC: | i also get comcast internet, so maybe the free channels they give you. |
[18:47:45] | wagnerrp: | then the hdhomerun will work just fine |
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[18:51:12] | flexMVC: | thanks. |
[18:52:49] | flexMVC: | does mythTv do the tivo-like stuff? |
[18:53:30] | wagnerrp: | is mythtv a PVR? yes |
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[18:55:00] | flexMVC: | thanks |
[18:57:48] | flexMVC: | i assume I don't need another tuner if I use hdhomerun. (Windows media Center requires one running on the box). |
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[18:58:57] | wagnerrp: | mythtv requires at least one input of any type |
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[20:50:40] | DeviceZer0: | hello all. im trying to make a custom rule to record any "enduro" race....in mythtv if i search for it...i see: AMA 2011 Racing Series: |
[20:50:40] | DeviceZer0: | Enduro: Bismark |
[20:51:25] | DeviceZer0: | i tried: program.title LIKE 'AMA 2011 Racing Series: Enduro:%' |
[20:51:31] | DeviceZer0: | but its not finding anything. |
[20:53:08] | DeviceZer0: | in mythweb when u search for something...when u go over a show...the shows title is a clickable link...for that...the only clickable part is "AMA 2011 Racing Series:" and the Enduro: Bismark is like the subtitle? |
[20:58:03] | DeviceZer0: | yay. program.subtitle LIKE '%enduro%' |
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[22:42:41] | peter__: | Hi, have come across the following url which seems to have UK channel assignments in correct order, but being a linux noob I have absolutely no idea how to implement. Could anyone point me in the right direction? |
[22:42:42] | peter__: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UK_Channel_Assignm . . . l_assignment |
[22:43:22] | peter__: | in the last combined discription on the page "I Think" it says to run the following command in terminal, " mysql -uroot -p -h192.168.0.2 --database mythconverg < alter channels.sql" but I get the following error |
[22:43:22] | peter__: | "bash: alter-channels.sql: No such file or directory" so pretty sure I am completely misunderstanding everything |
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[23:28:15] | Niklas__E: | anyone have any tips if you use mythweb and added htdigest and I can't login? Useing right user and password |
[23:28:54] | Niklas__E: | [error] [client 127.0.0.1] access to /mythweb failed, reason: verification of user id '<null>' not configured |
[23:29:01] | Niklas__E: | is in the apache2 log |
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[23:29:51] | kormoc: | that seems to say that the username was let blank |
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[23:30:32] | kormoc: | do you have a AuthGroupFile line? |
[23:31:18] | Niklas__E: | nope, I don't think so |
[23:31:43] | Niklas__E: | (useing gentoo) |
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[23:42:08] | Hoochster: | Niklas__E, I have always used this for setting permissions up for mythweb in the past. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Securing_MythWeb |
[23:44:02] | kormoc: | those instructions send your password in plain text over the interwebs, just so you know |
[23:44:40] | Niklas__E: | aha, well seems more easy |
[23:45:29] | Hoochster: | kormoc, ya I know he was asking specifically about htdigest though so gave him the way! :) |
[23:45:49] | kormoc: | Hoochster, that's not using htdigest, that's using htpassword. Strikingly different solutions |
[23:46:02] | kormoc: | htdigest secures your credentials, htpassword does not |
[23:46:15] | Hoochster: | it uses htdigest to create the file does it not? |
[23:46:39] | kormoc: | no |
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[23:46:44] | Niklas__E: | well, can't seem to get the other to work |
[23:46:52] | Hoochster: | Create a Password File |
[23:46:53] | Hoochster: | You will need to create an htdigest password file — a suggested location is /etc/httpd/conf, but it should be a location that gets backed up regularly. |
[23:46:53] | Hoochster: | htdigest -c /etc/httpd/conf/httpd-passwords MythTV MYUSER1 |
[23:47:04] | Hoochster: | is that not the same? not arguing just asking |
[23:47:30] | kormoc: | ooh, the opensuse one is htpasswd, the ubuntu one is htdigest, my mistake |
[23:47:34] | kormoc: | so it has both on the same page |
[23:47:37] | Hoochster: | no worries was making sure heh |
[23:47:39] | Hoochster: | ya |
[23:47:48] | Hoochster: | the wiki hasn't been updated in forever but still the same info |
[23:48:09] | Hoochster: | I always used htdigest in the past, using mythbuntu these days not sure what method it does |
[23:53:03] | Shadow__X: | J-e-f-f-A: hey are you aroun |
[23:53:04] | Shadow__X: | d |
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