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| [01:08:04] | wagnerrp: | sphery: seems i cant talk in #mythtv-theming |
| [01:08:56] | sphery: | wagnerrp: weird... it does that sometimes, then you have to part and join to get voice, again |
| [01:09:08] | wagnerrp: | (i just did) |
| [01:09:10] | sphery: | we still haven't figured out why it does it or what makes it different from other channels |
| [01:09:56] | Twiggy2cents: | You know whats awesome(and off topic) When you download something and it measures in bytes per second then tops out at 2.5 kBps |
| [01:10:17] | wagnerrp: | uh huh... |
| [01:10:31] | Twiggy2cents: | I love my internet. That is all |
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| [01:10:47] | Twiggy2cents: | I am glad I am moving soon. I here they have dialup there |
| [01:10:58] | wagnerrp: | hear? |
| [01:11:09] | Twiggy2cents: | damn |
| [01:11:23] | sphery: | what internet do you have, now? |
| [01:11:26] | Twiggy2cents: | I suppose I "hear" would be correct |
| [01:11:39] | Twiggy2cents: | Virgin mobile broadband |
| [01:11:57] | sphery: | ahh |
| [01:12:17] | Twiggy2cents: | It is fast at the most inopertune times. I am pretty sure that VM Broadband is QOS'ed out the ass |
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| [01:12:33] | sphery: | my dad gets similarly slow Internet access from his AT&T "4G" mobile broadband |
| [01:12:58] | sphery: | he's in the middle of nowhere, so they don't care to install the necessary equipment to increase capability |
| [01:13:08] | sphery: | so he still connects with EDGE |
| [01:13:20] | Twiggy2cents: | I am in a college town, I just thinke that it must be very overloaded |
| [01:13:33] | sphery: | ah, yeah, that would do it, too |
| [01:14:28] | Twiggy2cents: | I am going to cable internet when I move in a few weeks... That will be exciting. I wont know what to do with all the speed. On top of that, I will be paying the same amount for internet! |
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| [01:28:58] | Twiggy2cents: | sphery, what did you think of the smallville series finale? |
| [01:29:18] | sphery: | heh, still haven't gotten through it |
| [01:29:26] | sphery: | I have 4 eps including the finale |
| [01:29:46] | sphery: | haven't watched the supernatural season finale, either |
| [01:30:00] | sphery: | that one I |
| [01:30:13] | sphery: | ve been afraid to watch--don't want the season to end |
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| [01:31:28] | Twiggy2cents: | I thought that the series finale was very very good. It tied all ends and left you happy at the end... A lot like a good movie |
| [01:31:49] | Twiggy2cents: | The supernatural ending was different. It is a forgettable ending. |
| [01:33:38] | sphery: | wow, they usually do very well on season finales for supernatural |
| [01:33:48] | sphery: | maybe they pulled the punch in case it didn't get renewed |
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| [01:35:26] | Twiggy2cents: | Yeah it really seemed like a finale that could easily leave it a cliff hanging end of the series |
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| [01:39:40] | SpaceBass: | rhpot1991, you around by chance? |
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| [05:14:17] | Beirdo: | now... next itch... |
| [05:14:34] | Beirdo: | why does it spew tons of h264 crap before starting playback.... |
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| [07:25:46] | lapion: | hello |
| [07:27:24] | lapion: | when changing channels from my analog tuner to my digital tuner I sometimes get a black screen only and it can take some time before the change is made, if it is made at all.. |
| [07:27:30] | lapion: | http://pastebin.com/gqbdGDfF |
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| [08:31:00] | zertyui: | hello there |
| [08:31:35] | zertyui: | is there anyone there ? |
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| [09:03:36] | stuartm_: | zertyui: no, no-one at all |
| [09:03:40] | stuartm_ is now known as stuartm | |
| [09:05:06] | zertyui: | ok |
| [09:05:15] | zertyui: | i will come back later |
| [09:05:26] | zertyui: | stuartm: |
| [09:05:54] | stuartm: | zertyui: just ask a question and then be prepared to wait a while for an answer, someone will be bound to have an answer but they might not be paying attention right now |
| [09:06:22] | stuartm: | it's not the best time of day to get an immediate reply |
| [09:06:26] | zertyui: | how can i ask question if there is no one there |
| [09:06:47] | stuartm: | there are 50+ people here |
| [09:07:07] | stuartm: | just not all at their keyboard or watching the IRC window |
| [09:07:20] | zertyui: | ok understand |
| [09:07:31] | zertyui: | but why u said no one at all ? |
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| [09:09:32] | zertyui: | well |
| [09:10:36] | stuartm: | zertyui: it was a joke – your IRC client should be showing you a list of the people in the channel (180 in total) |
| [09:10:57] | zertyui: | lol |
| [09:10:59] | zertyui: | i know |
| [09:11:41] | zertyui: | i got mac os x |
| [09:11:53] | zertyui: | i just installed mythtv on it |
| [09:12:01] | zertyui: | why the mouse is not working is that normal ? |
| [09:22:14] | chainsawbike: | zertyui, last i checked the mouse is "hidden" by default in myth |
| [09:23:47] | zertyui: | that's not pratic for setup |
| [09:24:15] | zertyui: | the keyboard also not working correctly |
| [09:25:52] | chainsawbike: | define "not correctly" |
| [09:34:24] | zertyui: | mean i have to fight to choose the capture card |
| [09:35:01] | zertyui: | using tab up down left right key can not select the capture card |
| [09:35:18] | zertyui: | that's not really pratical |
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| [09:36:11] | zertyui: | well |
| [09:36:41] | zertyui: | now my question is : i just setup my capture card |
| [09:37:09] | zertyui: | is it possible to see ongoing live channe ?l |
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| [09:44:28] | chainsawbike: | zertyui, they are working on a web-based setup system so consider it a problem that is on its way out :) |
| [09:45:03] | chainsawbike: | as in watch "live tv"? |
| [09:46:20] | zertyui: | i just configured mythtv with this URL http://mafreebox.freebox.fr/freeboxtv/playlist.m3u as my capture card |
| [09:46:52] | zertyui: | my question is how to watch channel ? |
| [09:47:32] | zertyui: | and choose if i want to record or not |
| [09:48:31] | zertyui: | because as newbie for now i can't any exictement feature that i find on mythtv |
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| [09:48:38] | zertyui: | find |
| [09:52:36] | chainsawbike: | in mythfrontend select "live-tv" |
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| [09:52:49] | zertyui: | if i choose select live tv |
| [09:52:57] | zertyui: | this is what i got as error : erreur : mythtv utilise toutes les entrées, mais il n'y a aucun enregistrement actif |
| [09:53:03] | zertyui: | what that in means ? |
| [09:54:19] | chainsawbike: | dunno... wats it say in english? |
| [09:56:14] | zertyui: | error: mythtv uses all the entries, but there is no current record |
| [09:56:25] | zertyui: | this is what in english |
| [09:56:40] | chainsawbike: | did you set up the channels in mythtv-setup? |
| [09:57:21] | zertyui: | yes of course |
| [09:57:32] | zertyui: | i launch back/front END |
| [09:58:17] | zertyui: | after mysql i put this URL http://mafreebox.freebox.fr/freeboxtv/playlist.m3u on backEND |
| [10:00:24] | zertyui: | if i launch frontEND and watch tv |
| [10:00:28] | zertyui: | i got this error |
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| [10:03:25] | chainsawbike: | ive never tried to use any from of iptv before so cant really help much but i did find this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FreeBox |
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| [10:26:11] | stuartm: | from 0.25 the mouse is no longer hidden by default, but automatically after a few seconds of inactivity |
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| [10:46:57] | Vojta1: | Hi mythtv users. I am asking for a little help. Since today I am experiencing problem with connecting FE to BE, it always gives error that MythTV could not connect to master backend server. BE is running and IP address is same in FE and BE setting and I didn't make any changes in any setting. It is possible that this problem appeared when upgrading to 0.24.1. Any advise, what else should I check or what can be wrong? |
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| [11:36:01] | joshi: | is there a way to automatically fill mythtv database with tv highlights using this XML url: http://www.radiotimes.com/tvHighlights.xml |
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| [11:48:50] | stuartm: | not yet, but I might added a recommended field to the database schema now that you've given me the idea |
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| [12:38:47] | lapion: | when changing channels from my analog tuner to my digital tuner I sometimes get a black screen only and it can take some time before the change is made, if it is made at all.. |
| [12:38:49] | lapion: | http://pastebin.com/gqbdGDfF |
| [12:39:45] | lapion: | and how do I reenable powersaver after a fontend crash without restarting X ? |
| [12:41:42] | lapion: | and also does anyone know how to get the theme manager to download anything ? |
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| [14:17:56] | peter__: | Hi, completely new to mythtv. just installed mythbuntu, anybody know of some docomentation on how to configure a tv card? |
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| [14:53:41] | SnouF: | hello |
| [14:54:07] | SnouF: | fiste time sorry for my english but i don't speak good english :D |
| [14:54:48] | SnouF: | I'm write a mynetvision grabber for M6replay a french television |
| [14:55:31] | SnouF: | a item of treeview : http://pastebin.com/xprXKsSp |
| [14:56:30] | SnouF: | tag "player" don't work :( mythnetvision run the url of link tag |
| [14:58:36] | SnouF: | Can I run <media:content url="..."> in external player on mythtv 0.24 (and/or 0.23.1) ? |
| [14:59:55] | SnouF: | (the M6replay grabber its here : https://gitorious.org/+mythtv-fr/mythnetvision-fr/m6replay |
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| [15:27:25] | jst_: | I'm finding the Fedora tutorial on mythtv.org SEVERELY lacking. Does anyone here have a better one? |
| [15:27:55] | jst_: | It's not clear if/when I should log in as user mythtv, and it doesn't explain how to properly set up the database. |
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| [16:08:01] | swerve: | what's up with all the mythtv instability? |
| [16:08:18] | swerve: | i'm having to upgrade debian to unstable just to see if i can get mythtv to work reliably |
| [16:09:00] | swerve: | isn't there a way to get a stable version & just leave it, instead of it breaking all the time? |
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| [16:16:39] | TandyUK: | [17:14:49] <TandyUK> http://pastebin.com/ME4JNafw – scheduled recordings are failing, live tv is fine. any ideas? |
| [16:16:39] | TandyUK: | [17:15:25] <TandyUK> Encoder 1 [ DVB : /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 ] is local on myth-bedroom and is recording 'EastEnders' on BBC 1 S East. This recording is scheduled to end at 5:15 PM. |
| [16:16:39] | TandyUK: | [17:15:43] <TandyUK> the backend status shows that it is recording though no file ever appears on disk |
| [16:21:14] | swerve: | same |
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| [16:46:23] | natanojl: | SnouF: Use toxml() instead of toprettyxml(). |
| [16:47:27] | zertyui: | anyone there ? |
| [16:47:28] | SnouF: | natanojl, I'm use toprettyxml() only for pastebin |
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| [16:48:00] | SnouF: | for my test I'm use toxml() |
| [16:48:30] | zertyui: | noone there ? |
| [16:50:53] | wagnerrp: | TandyUK, swerve: check your backend logs to see if they report an error as to why there is no recording |
| [16:50:59] | natanojl: | SnouF: Ok, are you sure? The link to the grabber you posted uses toprettyxml() for the treeview. |
| [16:51:23] | wagnerrp: | SnouF: a grabber can define an external player that is to be used for mythnetvision |
| [16:52:01] | TandyUK: | wagnerrp: thats whats in the pastebin |
| [16:52:06] | TandyUK: | but the error means nothing to me |
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| [16:52:41] | wagnerrp: | youre trying to tune to 10MHz |
| [16:52:59] | wagnerrp: | have you been manually tinkering in the database? did you pull in a channels.conf? |
| [16:53:18] | TandyUK: | nope, channels added via the scan facility, and works perfectly for live tv |
| [16:53:56] | wagnerrp: | odd |
| [16:53:57] | TandyUK: | i had 11 simultaneous things recordding after browsing live v and hitting record, including the channels it is now having problems with |
| [16:54:40] | TandyUK: | i have DVB-S and DVB-T cards inthere, the 2 failures recording eastenders i had 1 set to use DVB-T and 1 set to DVB-S |
| [16:54:42] | natanojl: | SnouF: The newlines in the toprettyxml() output messes up the playerargs tag. I tried it myself |
| [16:54:53] | TandyUK: | and both failed with the same errors (yes they have their own listings sources etc) |
| [16:55:00] | wagnerrp: | the backend has taste? |
| [16:55:06] | ** wagnerrp hides ** | |
| [16:55:08] | TandyUK: | yeah i cant disagree there |
| [16:55:13] | TandyUK: | but its not my backend :P |
| [16:55:24] | TandyUK: | i cant be held responsible for what my customers want to watch lol |
| [16:55:48] | TandyUK: | i have threatened him before tomake it refuse to record coronation stree and eastenders, but myth just seems to have done it on its own lol |
| [16:55:48] | SnouF: | natanojl, oups ... i gorget to change it before git push ... but I'm tested with toxml() |
| [16:58:10] | wagnerrp: | SnouF: mplayer will accept options after the video file on the command lien? |
| [16:58:36] | Twiggy2cents: | what is the difference between pcm and iec958? |
| [16:58:50] | natanojl: | SnouF: Did you run mythfillnetvision --refresh-all after you changed from toprettyxml to toxml? |
| [16:59:29] | wagnerrp: | Twiggy2cents: PCM is uncompressed autio, iec958 is SPDIF which can take compressed AC3 or DTS |
| [16:59:37] | SnouF: | yes when I lauch mplay rtmp://m6dev.fcod.llnwd.net:443/a3100/d1/mp4: . . . 20110850.mp4 -fs -zoom |
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| [16:59:57] | SnouF: | mplayer play my video |
| [17:00:03] | wagnerrp: | SnouF: this is on 0.24 or 0.25? |
| [17:00:12] | SnouF: | *mplay = mplayer |
| [17:00:28] | SnouF: | mmmmh ... 0.23.1 and 0.24 |
| [17:01:06] | SnouF: | (y use 0.23.1 in product, I'm a 0.24 on virtual machin only :/) |
| [17:01:06] | Twiggy2cents: | I am using spdif, but previously it worked on iec958, now it only works on pcm(after upgrade from last release to 0.24. And I fiddled with my asound.conf(just set the card to default) now I have no sound |
| [17:01:48] | natanojl: | SnouF: For 0.23 I think you need to open the menu and choose "Download" or something |
| [17:02:15] | wagnerrp: | download should only be used if you actually intend to download the content |
| [17:02:23] | wagnerrp: | he wants to pass the URL off to mplayer |
| [17:02:28] | wagnerrp: | which AFAIK should work |
| [17:03:28] | wagnerrp: | SnouF: is it possible 'mplayer' cannot be found with the mythtv user's environment? |
| [17:04:15] | Twiggy2cents: | How come ALSA:default isnt an option in the sound setup? |
| [17:05:09] | wagnerrp: | Twiggy2cents: mythfrontend scans your available sound devices |
| [17:05:26] | wagnerrp: | if ALSA does not present default as an option for whatever reason, mythfrontend will not show it |
| [17:05:36] | SnouF: | natanojl, wagnerrp i must go the cooking |
| [17:06:09] | Twiggy2cents: | And i lost the pcm option and gained the iec958 option that didnt work. Manually putting in the default option cured my issues |
| [17:06:22] | SnouF: | I will return in 1 hour or 2 |
| [17:06:30] | SnouF: | sorry :/ |
| [17:06:38] | wagnerrp: | SnouF: the gitorious link you posted is the latest code? the one that isnt working? |
| [17:07:39] | natanojl: | wagnerrp: Yeah, I agree, but in 0.23 the external player was executed when you selected "Save this video" |
| [17:08:44] | wagnerrp: | natanojl: it should have only executed an external command if you had listed a '<download>' field for an external script for use in downloading the content |
| [17:09:25] | wagnerrp: | if you didnt specify any download or player options, it should have used the build in mythdownloadmanager, and then passed it to the internal player |
| [17:09:28] | wagnerrp: | (i think) |
| [17:09:38] | SnouF: | I push the latest version ! |
| [17:09:39] | wagnerrp: | that stuff may not have been properly hooked up yet in 0.23.1 |
| [17:09:49] | SnouF: | (and i go in kitchen :D) |
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| [17:13:11] | natanojl: | wagnerrp: Something like that yes, but at least in 0.23 I think the video was treated as downloadable if "link" and "content" were different |
| [17:16:57] | wagnerrp: | bah |
| [17:17:09] | wagnerrp: | forgot MNV scripts got installed on the backend |
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| [17:18:41] | swerve: | backend logs always empty, not sure why with all these recording failures and jump file errors |
| [17:18:57] | natanojl: | wagnerrp: Anyway, I got the script to work once I replaced toprettyxml with toxml |
| [17:20:53] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but im getting nothing |
| [17:21:28] | wagnerrp: | i mean the backend is either not exposing any scripts, or the frontend isnt displaying them for selection properly |
| [17:25:44] | natanojl: | not a single one? |
| [17:26:07] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but im on 0.25 |
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| [17:40:12] | lapion: | when changing channels from my analog tuner to my digital tuner I sometimes get a black screen only and it can take some time before the change is made, if it is made at all.. |
| [17:40:16] | lapion: | http://pastebin.com/gqbdGDfF |
| [17:40:29] | lapion: | and also does anyone know how to get the theme manager to download anything ? |
| [17:40:37] | lapion: | and how do I reenable powersaver after a fontend crash without restarting X ? |
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| [17:41:26] | wagnerrp: | what is 'powersaver'? |
| [17:41:46] | wagnerrp: | there are known issues with the theme chooser on remote frontends |
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| [17:42:48] | lapion: | I meant power management |
| [17:43:08] | wagnerrp: | yes, i dont understand what X has to do with power management |
| [17:43:34] | wagnerrp: | X's DPMS timer should continue to operate independently of MythTV |
| [17:43:54] | wagnerrp: | and any clock stepping would be managed by the kernel based off CPU load |
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| [17:44:19] | lapion: | wagnerrp this is a frontend running on the backend system. It cannot seem to get downloadable themes. |
| [17:45:04] | wagnerrp: | a local frontend should have no issue in the theme chooser |
| [17:45:21] | wagnerrp: | the known issue is one where the remote backend manages the download, but it is not properly forwarded to the frontend |
| [17:45:25] | lapion: | wagnerrp, when watching video dpms is disabled, it the frontend crashes during video watching dpms is disabled till next restart of X |
| [17:45:51] | wagnerrp: | which then restarts itself with the new theme, which doesnt exist and so it defaults to the previous |
| [17:46:07] | lapion: | wagnerrp, this local frontend doesn't download the theme at all |
| [17:46:09] | wagnerrp: | but since it thinks its on the proper theme, when it does get downloaded, you cant force a refresh into it |
| [17:46:15] | wagnerrp: | no, the local backend does |
| [17:46:36] | wagnerrp: | and the frontend gets it from where the backend downloaded it to |
| [17:46:55] | lapion: | well the bakend doesn't download the theme |
| [17:47:17] | wagnerrp: | in any case, you enable dpms with 'xset dpms on' |
| [17:48:25] | lapion: | ok thanks. |
| [17:50:22] | lapion: | could you check out the other problem I have been having? |
| [17:50:32] | lapion: | somthing to do with QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 3 |
| [17:51:48] | lapion: | wagnerrp, I am not seeing any network traffic while the frontend is still "downloading Retro-wide theme" |
| [17:53:08] | lapion: | I can't even stop the "downloading" process, the clock keeps on spinning but iptraf gives me no traffic |
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| [17:58:39] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs, see if its actually doing something |
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| [18:03:17] | lapion: | do you mean when getting new theme wagnerrp or while changing channels ? |
| [18:03:35] | wagnerrp: | when downloading a new one |
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| [18:05:06] | zertyu: | hello there |
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| [18:05:31] | lapion: | wagnerrp, the backend is not doing anything .... |
| [18:05:40] | zertyu: | i can't connect mythtv to my freebox and i can't watch channel |
| [18:05:46] | zertyu: | this is the log for backend |
| [18:05:47] | lapion: | the frontend had some errors though |
| [18:06:04] | zertyu: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/614652/ |
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| [18:06:43] | lapion: | wagnerrp, ThemeInfo, Warning: Unable to open themeinfo.xml for /usr/share/mythtv/themes/BlackCurves-OSD/themeinfo.xml |
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| [18:07:32] | lapion: | wagnerrp, but the backend is not responding to the download request. |
| [18:10:29] | zertyu: | here is the log for my frontend http://paste.ubuntu.com/614655/ |
| [18:11:11] | zertyu: | backEND : http://paste.ubuntu.com/614652/ and frontEND : http://paste.ubuntu.com/614655/ |
| [18:11:21] | zertyu: | why i can't watch channel ? |
| [18:12:20] | [R]: | uh |
| [18:12:24] | [R]: | that doesnt' look like a backend log to me |
| [18:13:34] | zertyu: | what's wrong ? R |
| [18:13:47] | [R]: | the fact that thats NOT you running the backend... |
| [18:13:47] | wagnerrp: | indeed, that looks like a mythtv-setup log |
| [18:14:06] | wagnerrp: | cannot connect to master backend |
| [18:16:05] | wagnerrp: | zertyu: 'mythtv-setup' is the setup program, not the backend |
| [18:16:09] | wagnerrp: | you need to run mythbackend |
| [18:18:09] | zertyu: | how to run mythbackend ? |
| [18:18:20] | wagnerrp: | how did you install mythtv? |
| [18:18:31] | zertyu: | because on mac OSX it looks like a file and not an apps |
| [18:18:48] | zertyu: | like mythtvsetup and mythtvfrontend |
| [18:18:52] | wagnerrp: | on OSX... i have no clue |
| [18:19:11] | zertyu: | if i click on it it just open then close automatically |
| [18:19:34] | wagnerrp: | its a daemon |
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| [18:19:38] | wagnerrp: | it runs in the background |
| [18:20:50] | zertyu: | ok |
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| [18:23:11] | zertyu: | well this is what i got |
| [18:23:14] | zertyu: | for backend |
| [18:23:15] | zertyu: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/614665/ |
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| [18:23:41] | zertyu: | and solving my problem still have the same error |
| [18:23:49] | wagnerrp: | no channel sources, so you did not configure your backend properly |
| [18:24:47] | zertyu: | what i have to do ? |
| [18:24:51] | zertyu: | exactly ? |
| [18:25:23] | wagnerrp: | see the documentation on the website |
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| [18:27:00] | zertyu: | listen following the documentation |
| [18:27:46] | zertyu: | after creating db |
| [18:27:47] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.1 |
| [18:28:02] | wagnerrp: | specifically, you seem to have exited after 'Capture Cards' |
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| [18:28:13] | wagnerrp: | and skipped 'Video Sources' and 'Input Connections' |
| [18:28:28] | lapion: | wagnerrp, now the backend doesn't react to channel changes either |
| [18:28:28] | zertyu: | i launch mythtv |
| [18:28:45] | zertyu: | and put this .m3u url |
| [18:30:02] | wagnerrp: | you should also read http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FreeBox#How_to_use_the_recorder_.3F |
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| [18:34:42] | zertyu: | very complicated your thing |
| [18:35:02] | zertyu: | seriously fighting for configuration from yesterday |
| [18:35:16] | wagnerrp: | cant say ive ever configured the IPTV tuner |
| [18:35:18] | zertyu: | and also everything not at point |
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| [19:03:06] | lapion: | I am having problems with "live"-tv playback |
| [19:05:50] | Muzer: | where does MythTV get its background images from for the "watch recordings" screen? Can they be submitted by users? If so, what format do they have to be in, etc., and where do I do it? |
| [19:07:55] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesnt really get them anywhere |
| [19:08:05] | wagnerrp: | it will search among artwork found in mythvideo |
| [19:08:11] | wagnerrp: | and if a match is found it will display it |
| [19:08:31] | wagnerrp: | jamu will pull artwork for recordings from TheTVDB and TheMovieDB |
| [19:08:51] | wagnerrp: | if you want to add fanart somewhere other users could get at it, you would add it there |
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| [19:10:38] | lapion: | wagnerrp, live-tv playback doesn't work only prerecorded shows play |
| [19:11:06] | Muzer: | ah, so would this be distro-specific then? |
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| [19:12:07] | wagnerrp: | jamu ships with mythvideo |
| [19:12:30] | wagnerrp: | however it is not set up, and is not run automatically |
| [19:14:33] | Muzer: | ah, so I assume the Mythbuntu people have set it up and that's why I'm getting it. |
| [19:14:55] | wagnerrp: | correct |
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| [19:17:18] | Muzer: | right, so I'd have to submit it to TheTVDB |
| [19:18:38] | wagnerrp: | if its for a tv series |
| [19:18:51] | Muzer: | yeah |
| [19:21:36] | Muzer: | oh, an image already exists for it, it's just under a different (older) name |
| [19:21:54] | Muzer: | hmm |
| [19:22:05] | Muzer: | I'll make an account and see if there's a way to add aliases oslt |
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| [19:26:26] | Muzer: | hmm, can't seem to add aliases, though there's something that's supposed to give me a list of them :/ |
| [19:28:28] | Muzer: | ah, you have to post on the forums |
| [19:30:43] | SnouF: | I'm back |
| [19:31:42] | SnouF: | have-you an example for a mythnetvision grabber work with an external player ? |
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| [19:45:46] | Muzer: | does or will MythTV support Accurate Record (ie, obeying signals sent by the channel through some means that say when programmes have started/finished) |
| [19:46:07] | Muzer: | I'm assuming not currently, since I was just watching a recording and it ended at 2045 on the second, but will it happen? |
| [19:46:28] | wagnerrp: | where would these signals come from? |
| [19:48:37] | wagnerrp: | there have been attempts in the past at automatically extending and terminating recordings of sports events |
| [19:48:42] | wagnerrp: | based off data scraped online |
| [19:49:40] | Muzer: | well, in this country they're sent with now/next data I believe |
| [19:49:43] | Muzer: | not 100% sure how it works |
| [19:49:48] | Muzer: | I just know it does very well on STBs :p |
| [19:49:55] | Muzer: | (UK) |
| [19:50:00] | wagnerrp: | EIT data is sent with the channel |
| [19:50:17] | wagnerrp: | but generally that data is updated at the scheduled times |
| [19:50:23] | wagnerrp: | rather than at the precise start/end time |
| [19:51:00] | wagnerrp: | not to mention such dynamic endpoints would play absolute hell with the scheduler |
| [19:51:16] | Muzer: | well, as I said, it does work, and it uses some standard means (perhaps in a non-standard way) |
| [19:51:31] | Muzer: | yeah, that's the only problem |
| [19:53:39] | Muzer: | I suppose it could just reschedule on-the-fly if a prior recording is over-running, though obviously that wouldn't be perfect (if the first recording is repeated sooner than the interrupted one, for example) |
| [19:53:49] | wagnerrp: | i know it has been brought up in the past, but deemed too unreliable to use at the time |
| [19:54:00] | wagnerrp: | at know at least over here it wouldnt work, since our EIT is garbage |
| [19:54:08] | Muzer: | I assume it would be an option |
| [19:54:11] | Muzer: | defaulting to off |
| [19:55:19] | Muzer: | but yeah, they've had 4 years to perfect it, and it pretty much is perfect now, on the main broadcasters at least |
| [19:55:29] | Muzer: | (it was first started in this country in 2007) |
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| [20:00:30] | Muzer: | is it the EIT that carries the now/next data too? I was under the impression it was carried in a different place to the full EPG. |
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| [20:22:36] | Muzer: | btw, how would it work if I got a satellite tuner as well as my current terrestrial tuner and hooked both up? Would I have one EPG, with somehow combined data (bearing in mind that I currently used EIT only), or would I essentially have duplicate channels that I'll have to choose between myself in, for instance, recordings? |
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| [20:23:16] | Muzer: | I suppose it might be that there are duplicate channels but the programme IDs are the same between guides so it'll be clever enough to know that it can record on either... |
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| [20:29:59] | wagnerrp: | sphery sphery sphery... |
| [20:30:03] | wagnerrp: | your semicolons are showing |
| [20:30:56] | Beirdo_: | heheh |
| [20:31:23] | Beirdo_: | and my nick is dangling, it seems |
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| [20:34:40] | ** Beirdo grumbles about douchebags on the -users list ** | |
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| [20:51:52] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: you around? |
| [20:52:54] | wagnerrp: | yep |
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| [20:53:14] | Beirdo: | got a patch for you to try in freebsd to see if we can get rid of a warning |
| [20:53:19] | Beirdo: | if you're interested |
| [20:53:50] | wagnerrp: | any way to stuff it onto the buildbot directly? |
| [20:54:13] | Beirdo: | not that I know of, although there's gotta be a way |
| [20:54:33] | Beirdo: | I mean, I could just commit it and push :) |
| [20:55:02] | Beirdo: | its at http://www.beirdo.ca/~gjhurlbu/test/freebsd1.diff |
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| [21:14:45] | [R]: | wagnerrp: do yo uhave that bad taste in your mouth? |
| [21:14:53] | [R]: | wagnerrp: saying pulse is good for something? |
| [21:15:52] | wagnerrp: | i never said it was completely worthless |
| [21:16:04] | wagnerrp: | just that ~99% of users had no use for it |
| [21:16:23] | wagnerrp: | and that its a PITA for no real good reason |
| [21:16:47] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:16:53] | [R]: | i'd have a bad taste in my mouth if i had to say that |
| [21:17:08] | Beirdo: | taste rather nutty? |
| [21:17:20] | [R]: | haha |
| [21:17:32] | wagnerrp: | i still consider it a derogatory comment, saying its rare someone shows a scenario where its worthwhile |
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| [21:26:51] | Beirdo: | took me three cups of coffee to even feel human today |
| [21:26:54] | Beirdo: | sigh |
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| [21:35:33] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: should know in about half an hour |
| [21:36:14] | ben__: | Hello! Upgraded a box to ubuntu's natty and wondered if there's any known issues with lirc/mythtv before I start investigating |
| [21:37:37] | ben__: | specifically, the remote feels unresponsive or it goes a bit crazy, for instance if i hit the 'left' button it spins through the menu items until i hit the exit button |
| [21:37:54] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: OK |
| [21:37:56] | ben__: | irw seems to be fine and the keyboard is also fine |
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| [21:41:41] | awalls: | There's this recent thread about autorepeats: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/msg32086.html |
| [21:42:10] | awalls: | but that's probably only relevant if you are using lirc_input (or whatever the module is called for the input dev) |
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| [21:44:09] | ben__: | devinput? i am |
| [21:44:11] | ** ben__ reads ** | |
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| [21:52:47] | Beirdo: | Oh, so much nicer without the pre-playback H264 spew |
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| [22:06:35] | SnouF: | goog night (it's 00:06) |
| [22:06:41] | sphery: | wagnerrp: semicolons? |
| [22:06:54] | SnouF: | *good |
| [22:07:11] | ben__: | it's morning then technically :p |
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| [22:10:11] | sphery: | heh, #9730... reopened to ask a usage question |
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| [23:03:05] | wagnerrp: | sphery: python needs no stinkin' semicolons |
| [23:04:25] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: got some warnings on lines 525 and 529 |
| [23:04:39] | wagnerrp: | dereferencing type-punned pointer will reak strict-aliasing rules |
| [23:05:36] | Beirdo: | still? |
| [23:05:38] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [23:05:44] | Beirdo: | with the patch in? |
| [23:06:40] | Beirdo: | I guess we'll have to live with it |
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| [23:08:11] | Beirdo: | I think we just need to add -fno-strict-aliasing |
| [23:08:23] | Beirdo: | which seems to be in on the Linux builds |
| [23:08:27] | Beirdo: | interesting |
| [23:08:47] | Beirdo: | meh, no harm with it like this, I guess |
| [23:08:55] | Beirdo: | thanks for trying |
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| [23:13:02] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so for the job_queue_idle.py ? I think I copy/pasted those 2 lines directly from some python OptionParser docs |
| [23:13:18] | sphery: | stupid compiler should tell me if they shouldn't be there |
| [23:13:44] | wagnerrp: | theyre not harmful in any way |
| [23:13:47] | wagnerrp: | they just do nothing |
| [23:13:47] | sphery: | That python compiler speaks with forked tongue |
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| [23:30:32] | wagnerrp: | sphery: updated version if you want to look at it http://pastebin.com/Yaj57UC5 |
| [23:33:30] | sphery: | wagnerrp: rewrite? feel free to replace the one I did |
| [23:33:39] | sphery: | (and replace the author name on the page, too :) |
| [23:34:07] | sphery: | I like it, though--does a lot more than just check |
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| [23:34:26] | wagnerrp: | well its the same code |
| [23:34:33] | wagnerrp: | it just adds in a daemon to wrap it |
| [23:34:40] | wagnerrp: | to start/stop the jobqueue as neede |
| [23:34:42] | wagnerrp: | d |
| [23:34:45] | prologic: | Does anyone know if the Hauppauge HVR-22xx PCIe cards are now supported in Linux and MythTV ? My searching seems to hint that they are to some degree now ... |
| [23:35:02] | wagnerrp: | yes, provide you have a sufficiently modern kernel |
| [23:35:10] | prologic: | sweet |
| [23:35:15] | prologic: | and I am slightly confused by one thing |
| [23:35:20] | prologic: | are these cards DVB-T ? |
| [23:35:36] | Beirdo: | !url tuners |
| [23:35:36] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [23:35:36] | prologic: | I'm from Asutralia and the tech sepcs I was reading from Hauppauge mentioned nothing about DVB-T |
| [23:35:46] | Beirdo: | 2250 is ATSC |
| [23:35:53] | wagnerrp: | the 2200 is DVB-T, yes |
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| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | but I think there is a DVB-T version similar |
| [23:36:03] | prologic: | so I need to get a 2200 not a 2250 ? |
| [23:36:19] | prologic: | I want a dual DVB-T card :) |
| [23:36:45] | Beirdo: | go look on the wiki, see what there is |
| [23:36:54] | prologic: | looking |
| [23:37:14] | prologic: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T2_PCIe_Cards |
| [23:37:16] | prologic: | hmmm :/ |
| [23:37:38] | prologic: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T2_Devices |
| [23:37:43] | prologic: | many of these page don't exist yet |
| [23:38:01] | prologic: | so how about collective human knowledge ? :) |
| [23:38:32] | Beirdo: | what do you think a wiki is? :) |
| [23:39:09] | wagnerrp: | some crazy made up hawaiian word? |
| [23:39:23] | Beirdo: | hehe, other than that |
| [23:39:39] | prologic: | lol |
| [23:39:51] | prologic: | I tend to find information outdated though |
| [23:39:57] | prologic: | or at least old with no status update :) |
| [23:40:09] | prologic: | like reading forum threads back in 2008 |
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| [23:40:44] | prologic: | even the DVico Fusion HDTV PCIe Dual Express cards are lsited there as unsuppored |
| [23:40:51] | prologic: | but I have read mixed information on that |
| [23:43:54] | Beirdo: | Hmmm |
| [23:44:06] | Beirdo: | maybe I should toy with nuvexport some today |
| [23:44:39] | prologic: | see what I mean by I can't find a definitive card to buy ? |
| [23:44:52] | awalls: | Lim (Support_for_card_X), as t -> infinity = "not supported" |
| [23:45:14] | Beirdo: | heya, awalls :) |
| [23:45:20] | awalls: | hi. |
| [23:45:32] | awalls: | I'm a bit cynical tonight. Sorry. :) |
| [23:45:42] | Beirdo: | hey, we all have those days |
| [23:46:23] | ** awalls resumes committing ivtvfb fixes ** | |
| [23:46:36] | prologic: | It's either a choice between the DVico Fusion HDTV DVT-T PCIe Dual Express or the Hauppauge HVR-2200 PCIe |
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| [23:46:39] | Beirdo: | good man. |
| [23:47:10] | wagnerrp: | awalls: silly man, we dropped support for that two versions ago |
| [23:47:19] | ** awalls wonders how many people on Earth still have a PVR-350 *and* use the ivtvfb driver ** | |
| [23:47:34] | awalls: | Some people still use it for the X-server apparently |
| [23:47:39] | Beirdo: | probably could count em on appendages |
| [23:47:47] | Beirdo: | but what do we know? :) |
| [23:50:32] | Beirdo: | booom |
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| [23:50:42] | Beirdo: | nuvexport no workee with new-logging :) |
| [23:50:44] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:51:11] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: problems with command line argument changes in mythtranscode? |
| [23:51:47] | Beirdo: | yeah :) |
| [23:52:00] | Beirdo: | should be easy to fix, I kinda saw this coming |
| [23:52:05] | wagnerrp: | i thought i kept most of those the same |
| [23:52:16] | Beirdo: | missing -c |
| [23:52:20] | Beirdo: | whatever that was |
| [23:52:56] | wagnerrp: | chanid apparently |
| [23:53:05] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [23:53:13] | wagnerrp: | im entirely fine leaving out the shortcuts for things like that |
| [23:53:24] | wagnerrp: | i probably did that intentionally |
| [23:53:27] | Beirdo: | yeah, it should be fine |
| [23:53:45] | sphery: | wagnerrp: for new-logging, all logging gets written to DB--no more separate API for DB logging. So, I'm keeping log messages for 14 days for mythbackend and mythfrontend, and was thinking about keeping "other" app logging for 7 days. Does that seem reasonable for mythjobqueue? |
| [23:54:04] | sphery: | assuming that mythjobqueue becomes the only job runner |
| [23:54:15] | sphery: | or should I keep it a full 14 days? |
| [23:54:18] | wagnerrp: | thats the plan |
| [23:54:33] | wagnerrp: | 7 days should be sufficient |
| [23:54:34] | sphery: | oh, and these are only db log messages |
| [23:54:50] | sphery: | ok... that's what I thought, too--just wanted to make sure the job queue dude agrees :) |
| [23:54:56] | wagnerrp: | anything further, and you can still check the text logs |
| [23:56:25] | ** Beirdo recompiles master ** | |
| [23:57:38] | sphery: | wagnerrp: exactly... db logs are mainly beneficial to us in here--especially once I get the services api log viewer in |
| [23:58:03] | sphery: | then we can easily get logs from users (especially if I add a pastebin button :) |
| [23:58:14] | Beirdo: | sphery: oh PLEASE do :) |
| [23:58:57] | sphery: | I'm seriously considering adding a query string param to allow it--so wouldn't show up directly/wouldn't scare people |
| [23:59:13] | wagnerrp: | a button that pastes into the IRC channel? |
| [23:59:24] | Beirdo: | same goes in a log viewer in the frontend |
| [23:59:34] | Beirdo: | have a menu item to pastebin :) |
| [23:59:42] | wagnerrp: | cant i just ctrl-c-v the whole thing into here just as easily? |
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