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| [00:39:26] | Bob-zqxlp: | Hi y'all. Some problems after upgrading from a perfectly-function 0.21 (Ubuntu 8.04) to 0.23 (Ubuntu 10.04). Possibly better for the mailing list, but I wanted to run the short(er) version by here first: |
| [00:40:09] | Bob-zqxlp: | 1. Both backend and frontend are now struggling with recordings made from the "Low Quality" recording profile. Are there any known issues related to this? Is something no longer supported? It still records fine (PVR-150, btw), but the backend fails to flag commercials (job queue reports that it found >100 commercial breaks for a half-hour show, but the recording is left marked "not flagged" and the backend logs errors includi |
| [00:40:09] | Bob-zqxlp: | ng "smallbin double linked list corrupted"), and the frontend plays back with the top-half of the video covered in green graphical artifacts. Playback is the same if I run the raw mpeg through MythVideo. Playback is perfectly fine through Totem and the Windows Mythtv Player client. Same issue affects recordings made with 0.21, so it's not that things are being recorded any differently. "Normal quality" recordings have none of |
| [00:40:09] | Bob-zqxlp: | these issues. |
| [00:42:06] | Bob-zqxlp: | 2. Preview generation always fails. There are a number of warnings in the logfile, but I'm not sure which are significant and the actual errors are generic... there's also the occassional "Aborted," "Illegal instruction," and "corrupted double-linked list" (these seem to lack context...) |
| [00:42:36] | Bob-zqxlp: | 3. MythVideo won't show DVD menus. They "work" in that the menu item highlight appears on top of a black background... if I can actually made my way to the movie, it seems to play alright. |
| [00:44:56] | Bob-zqxlp: | I welcome tips on how to diagnose any of these myself... running out of ideas. |
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| [00:55:51] | tgm4883: | Bob-zqxlp, at the very least, I'd upgrade to mythbuntu-repos and get a release version of 0.23.0 or 0.23.1 (or 0.24 if you want) |
| [01:02:29] | Bob-zqxlp: | tgm4883: the 0.23.0-fixes in the ubuntu repos is out-of-date? I thought "-fixes" was generally recommended. I didn't know there was a 0.23.1 though... interesting... |
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| [01:02:59] | tgm4883: | Bob-zqxlp, please read up on this The Mythbuntu team provides updates for MythTV and Mythbuntu package using the Mythbuntu Repos http://mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [01:03:27] | tgm4883: | Bob-zqxlp, also, it is work noting that the version in the official ubuntu repos for 10.04 is a pre-release version of 0.23. Not even the released version |
| [01:04:04] | Bob-zqxlp: | oh. that seems odd. I was wondering why you made a point of saying "release version." Thanks for the info. |
| [01:05:39] | tgm4883: | Bob-zqxlp, yea it's kinda odd. Won't happen in the future but had to do with when Mythtv 0.23 was officially released and when 10.04 was release |
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| [01:25:58] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: do you have to pass commit hooks to buildbot? or does it just pull once every five minutes or so? |
| [01:27:03] | Beirdo: | it's sent a hook same as the email and trac hook |
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| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | ewww, this code is disgusting |
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| [01:28:31] | Beirdo: | trying to remove a compile warning for PPC in the linearblend filter. YUCK |
| [01:29:05] | Beirdo: | if (HAVE_MMX && filter->mm_flags & FF_MM_MMXEXT) |
| [01:29:05] | Beirdo: | filter->subfilter = &linearBlendMMX; |
| [01:29:09] | Beirdo: | yuck |
| [01:30:58] | Beirdo: | that means.. even though the linearBlendMMX() is never used on PPC, there's still a prototype for it, it still shows up as a symbol in the library which has no code attached and never gets called |
| [01:31:02] | Beirdo: | messy |
| [01:31:11] | Beirdo: | all to save from doing it properly: |
| [01:31:19] | Beirdo: | #if HAVE_MMX |
| [01:31:24] | Beirdo: | around the block |
| [01:31:49] | Beirdo: | and likewise for the HAVE_ALTIVEC one after |
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| [01:33:20] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm extending the ugly by defining another prototype that will only be used in PPC |
| [01:33:43] | Beirdo: | I don't feel like fighting the arguments. |
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| [02:24:16] | Bob-zqxlp: | tgm4883: The upgrade fixed the DVD issue! No effect on #1 for the frontend, haven't yet updated the backend (guessing it won't affect that if it didn't affect the frontend tho, but I'll give it a shot anyhow). But, one problem down, so thanks. |
| [02:26:01] | Bob-zqxlp: | (I thought it was even more broken at first, but it turned out ubuntu still had the previous DVD mounted... don't know what's up with that, but not a mythtv issue...) |
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| [03:23:23] | Beirdo: | hmm, wonder if I even have any music on my frontend to test with |
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| [03:30:40] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: does this look bad to you? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/File:Gemalto_PC_Ca . . . ndit_VGA.jpg |
| [03:34:51] | Beirdo: | hmm, doesn't look particularly bad, but what's the point of the picture? |
| [03:35:18] | Beirdo: | Smart card reader? is that to read a CAM, perhaps? |
| [03:35:43] | wagnerrp: | there are tuner cards that put their reader on a daughter card |
| [03:35:58] | wagnerrp: | and he could conceivably have decided to mount that to the front of his case |
| [03:36:06] | wagnerrp: | but im not thinking that was the purpose |
| [03:36:59] | Beirdo: | well, just trying to think what uses smart cards... is that a SIM sized one, I wonder? |
| [03:37:30] | Beirdo: | looks like full-size smart card, but I dunno what uses that |
| [03:37:44] | Beirdo: | or why it's at all applicable to MythTV |
| [03:42:12] | Beirdo: | seems rather fishy to me |
| [03:50:34] | kormoc: | or he's cloning the cards for his satellite box... |
| [03:51:14] | Beirdo: | hmm, that's also possible |
| [03:51:18] | Beirdo: | again, fishy |
| [03:51:33] | Beirdo: | how the heck do I scan in mythmusic? |
| [03:51:37] | Beirdo: | been sooo long |
| [03:51:44] | kormoc: | Settings -> Media -> Music -> scan |
| [03:52:48] | Beirdo: | ahhh, thanks :) |
| [03:53:17] | kormoc: | I also can't scan after I run mythmusic, so I have to quit the frontend, go scan, start mythmusic |
| [03:54:06] | Beirdo: | lovely |
| [03:54:15] | Beirdo: | wonder how that rewrite's coming along |
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| [03:55:22] | wagnerrp: | well this is funky |
| [03:55:51] | wagnerrp: | getting a libfreetype issue when trying to run mythfrontend on a remote X |
| [03:56:12] | Beirdo: | oh that's what that flac file in there was :) |
| [03:56:21] | Beirdo: | Kansas – Carry On Wayward Son |
| [03:56:41] | Beirdo: | file named blah.flac |
| [03:56:42] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:57:34] | [R]: | thats an awesome song |
| [03:57:45] | [R]: | thats the one they played on the guitar hero south park |
| [03:58:10] | Beirdo: | just testing that the metadata still works right after removing the uses of the old metadata methods and using hte new api |
| [03:58:27] | Beirdo: | the compile warnings were pissing me off |
| [03:58:51] | [R]: | so change tghe -W flags :P |
| [03:59:04] | Beirdo: | no, that's the idiot's way to fix it |
| [03:59:12] | wagnerrp: | WTF? |
| [03:59:19] | Beirdo: | the old function is deprecated |
| [03:59:34] | wagnerrp: | how do i have different freetype libraries between my two systems |
| [03:59:41] | Beirdo: | so the next ffmpeg sync, it could just be gone |
| [03:59:47] | Beirdo: | whenever that may be |
| [04:03:10] | Beirdo: | grrr. So I remove a warning for PPC, and another crops up for x86 |
| [04:03:21] | wagnerrp: | WTF!!! |
| [04:03:22] | Beirdo: | as I said earlier in the day... messy code |
| [04:03:25] | wagnerrp: | it did it again! |
| [04:03:45] | wagnerrp: | i copied /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.6.2 from my good frontend to the one that is inexplicably failing |
| [04:03:53] | wagnerrp: | ran the frontend once, it ran fine |
| [04:04:05] | wagnerrp: | ran the frontend again, and the library is corrupted now |
| [04:04:11] | Beirdo: | ?!? |
| [04:04:13] | wagnerrp: | with the same bad md5 it had last time |
| [04:04:21] | Beirdo: | your machine is possessed? |
| [04:04:30] | wagnerrp: | seriously |
| [04:04:48] | Beirdo: | OMG, Santana was a good one to copy over for testing :) |
| [04:05:15] | wagnerrp: | if it were simply corrupted, i would assume hardware is going bad |
| [04:05:22] | wagnerrp: | but no, it was corrupted in exactly the same manner |
| [04:05:26] | wagnerrp: | not a random glitch |
| [04:05:30] | wagnerrp: | this was programmatic |
| [04:05:32] | Beirdo: | yeah, that is odd |
| [04:09:33] | wagnerrp: | anyway, back to the problem at hand.... it said core dumped, but where did it dump to? |
| [04:09:51] | Beirdo: | current working dir where it was started from |
| [04:10:16] | wagnerrp: | apparently not |
| [04:10:24] | Beirdo: | odd |
| [04:10:34] | Beirdo: | that's the normal Linux behavior anyways |
| [04:10:44] | Beirdo: | find / -name core\* |
| [04:10:45] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:10:48] | wagnerrp: | thats where i expected it would be |
| [04:10:53] | wagnerrp: | and thats what im currently doing |
| [04:11:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:11:19] | Beirdo: | or \*core\* |
| [04:11:39] | Beirdo: | in case it decided to call it mythfrontend.core or some fool thing |
| [04:12:00] | Beirdo: | YAY |
| [04:12:09] | Beirdo: | down to exactly one warning for the plugins |
| [04:12:23] | wagnerrp: | does the user or root need write access? |
| [04:12:33] | Beirdo: | it's one that I fought with for hours before, and couldn't satisfactorily fix |
| [04:12:37] | Beirdo: | to the core? |
| [04:12:43] | Beirdo: | or to the current dir |
| [04:12:58] | wagnerrp: | if the current directory is an NFS mount, with root squash such that root cannot write to it... |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | the user may need write access to the dir to spew the core file |
| [04:13:33] | wagnerrp: | the user (me) has write access, root does not |
| [04:13:59] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [04:14:24] | wagnerrp: | oh, no, it did write |
| [04:14:25] | Beirdo: | not sure, maybe it does write it as root then chmod... it's builtin to libc or bash |
| [04:14:31] | wagnerrp: | its just a single 'core' |
| [04:14:36] | wagnerrp: | not 'mythfrontend.core' |
| [04:14:47] | Beirdo: | K, that's what I'd expect |
| [04:14:54] | Beirdo: | either core or core.pid |
| [04:15:05] | Beirdo: | some odd setups add the process name |
| [04:15:16] | wagnerrp: | crap... i dont even have gdb installed |
| [04:15:21] | wagnerrp: | why do i not have gdb installed... |
| [04:15:26] | Beirdo: | oops |
| [04:21:19] | wagnerrp: | looks like im going to need to install it, since i cant reproduce this segfault elsewhere |
| [04:21:21] | Beirdo: | die, compile warnings, die! |
| [04:22:15] | wagnerrp: | thats german! |
| [04:22:23] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:22:31] | Beirdo: | yes, Sideshow Bob. |
| [04:25:06] | EvilBob: | Now I am offended |
| [04:25:08] | EvilBob: | ;) |
| [04:28:21] | wagnerrp: | why? no one who speaks german could be evil |
| [04:29:34] | Beirdo: | unless he's a short Austrian with a funny-looking moustache |
| [04:32:03] | wagnerrp: | but then hes not german now is he? |
| [04:35:37] | wagnerrp: | cant reproduce on the other (more powerful) frontend running the same binaries |
| [04:36:24] | Beirdo: | He claimed he was German. The Germans seemed to agree |
| [04:36:37] | Beirdo: | international borders be damned, I guess :) |
| [04:37:30] | iamlindoro: | That's because at that time, Germany meant "everything from this sea to that one." |
| [04:37:45] | Beirdo: | ahhhh, that must be it :) |
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| [04:42:16] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: trying to track down a segfault im having on one of my machines |
| [04:42:49] | wagnerrp: | if i enter mythvideo, list view, and hit right to enter the initially selected folder |
| [04:42:51] | wagnerrp: | it segfaults |
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| [04:43:05] | wagnerrp: | but strangely, i cannot repeat it on my other two machines |
| [04:43:18] | wagnerrp: | including one which is a nearly identical build, running all the same binaries |
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| [04:44:41] | iamlindoro: | Backtraces would help, but I'll bet a million jillion dollars that it's in mythuibuttontree |
| [04:45:02] | wagnerrp: | close, very close |
| [04:45:18] | wagnerrp: | MythUIButtonTree::SetTreeState was the second to last call |
| [04:45:30] | wagnerrp: | it faulted in MythGenericTree::getSelectedChild |
| [04:46:00] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, that's a MythUI crash |
| [04:46:34] | wagnerrp: | http://pastebin.com/y8QpHrLv |
| [04:46:37] | iamlindoro: | Since it's pretty much just my plugins that use the tree widgets, they just happen to show up there |
| [04:46:45] | wagnerrp: | although i need to recompile with a proper debug build |
| [04:46:53] | iamlindoro: | That said, I thought that most of them had been fixed-- are you 100% sure your source is all up to date? |
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| [04:47:26] | wagnerrp: | up to day as of 4/29 |
| [04:47:34] | wagnerrp: | whatever the last gentoo ebuild is |
| [04:47:49] | iamlindoro: | In that case you may want to bounce it off of stuartm/paul-h |
| [04:48:01] | wagnerrp: | the strange thing has to do with how i build frontends |
| [04:48:10] | iamlindoro: | It's possible that fixing one of the last ones broke it in some other way |
| [04:48:24] | iamlindoro: | But all the same, it's not code I know well so I'm not equipped to fix it |
| [04:48:32] | wagnerrp: | i have one shared image, that i clone, overlay a new /etc folder, and boot directly |
| [04:48:36] | iamlindoro: | (although if I had more time right now I'd be happy to try) |
| [04:48:44] | wagnerrp: | two of my frontends are the exact same system |
| [04:48:55] | wagnerrp: | its strange that one faults, the other works fine |
| [04:49:01] | iamlindoro: | yeah, weird |
| [04:49:14] | iamlindoro: | must come down to a setting thing-- but all the same, the widget itself shouldn't segfault |
| [04:49:41] | wagnerrp: | yeah, ill rebuild newer, and not strip the binaries |
| [04:49:45] | wagnerrp: | see if i can track it further |
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| [04:59:44] | ** Beirdo scratches his head ** | |
| [05:00:23] | Beirdo: | OK, same compiler, same MACHINE... buildbot is still giving the warning, and doing it from the command line doesn't? |
| [05:00:43] | Beirdo: | I think buildbot may not have pulled all 4 changes, or I'm on crack. |
| [05:00:53] | Beirdo: | I guess I'll wait for it to finish anyways |
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| [05:21:09] | Beirdo: | I don't get this |
| [05:21:18] | Beirdo: | time for a distclean here. |
| [05:21:25] | Beirdo: | make em match |
| [05:28:42] | Beirdo: | oh sonvaBLEEEP! |
| [05:28:57] | Beirdo: | I'm compiling DEBUG builds... |
| [05:29:21] | Beirdo: | the buildbot does RELEASE |
| [05:29:43] | Beirdo: | and thus has -O3, which is what causes it to notice we are still past the end of the array |
| [05:29:48] | Beirdo: | OK, I need food |
| [05:29:58] | Beirdo: | then I'll come bash my head on it again |
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| [06:03:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [06:08:25] | wagnerrp: | is there any reason to spell out specifically what fields you want, rather than a wildcard, if you want them all? |
| [06:08:31] | wagnerrp: | just good practice? |
| [06:08:46] | Beirdo: | SQL, I assume? |
| [06:08:51] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [06:09:09] | Beirdo: | it would keep you from getting unneeded data later if the table gets more columns |
| [06:09:32] | Beirdo: | other than that, I guess, being specific tends to be more predictable? |
| [06:09:48] | wagnerrp: | well if the table gets more columns, presumably the object would have to be rewritten to comply |
| [06:09:51] | Beirdo: | bet kormoc knows a few good resaons |
| [06:09:55] | wagnerrp: | but i see where youre going |
| [06:12:25] | Beirdo: | you know... I think the tspacket.h warning really isn't a warning |
| [06:12:29] | Beirdo: | it's a real bug |
| [06:13:09] | Beirdo: | we are reading/writing from somewhere we shouldn't be, as far as I can tell |
| [06:16:52] | Beirdo: | if the packet has the adaptation fields, we seem to be messing up our parsing |
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| [08:38:09] | teatimer: | with mythtv, can the front-end be connected to the arial? |
| [08:38:12] | teatimer: | or does it have to be the back end |
| [08:38:36] | teatimer: | ?? |
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| [08:40:22] | wagnerrp: | the backend records, the frontend plays |
| [08:40:32] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview |
| [08:40:46] | teatimer: | thanks buddy |
| [08:40:52] | IMSanchMac: | you can have both on one machine if that is what you mean? |
| [08:41:43] | teatimer: | just wondering if the backend is supoed to be plugged into the arial |
| [08:43:01] | IMSanchMac: | well the backend records from the tuners, so any machine with tuners in it you want to be able to access will need to be running mythbackend, either as the master or as a slave |
| [08:43:36] | teatimer: | cheers |
| [08:44:03] | teatimer: | my frontend isn't powerful enough and the backend is nowhere near my arial :| |
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| [16:51:40] | russell5: | does optimize_mythdb need to run as root? |
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| [16:59:10] | wagnerrp: | considering POSIX user accounts mean nothing to mysql, im going to say no |
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| [17:05:02] | russell5: | i assumed just wanted to make sure. thanks |
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| [18:25:34] | fornext: | good evening |
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| [18:26:57] | fornext: | My plan is to build a media pc, but first I wanna try Myth-TV with an dsat extension in my desktop. Wich Hardware is runnig good with it? |
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| [20:26:44] | StevenR: | hmmm... is there a way to "pause" playback on one frontend machine, and "resume" it somehow, in the same place, on another frontend (like if I want to move rooms halfway through playback of livetv/a recording) |
| [20:30:58] | hume: | hi... I've got a problem with mythweb since upgrading my server to ubuntu 10.10 – trying to list Tv-shows (or recordings or searching) produces an error: Error creating data/tv_icons: Please check permissions on the data directory. Anyone knows what the permissions on this should be? |
| [20:33:07] | StevenR: | hume: where is "data/tv_icons" ? |
| [20:33:16] | StevenR: | i.e. the full path |
| [20:33:39] | StevenR: | and where do you get this messages? mythweb? |
| [20:34:15] | Bob-zqxlp: | StevenR: ...the standard bookmark feature? |
| [20:34:24] | hume: | it's a link from /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/data/tv_icons to /var/cache/mythweb/image_cache |
| [20:34:32] | StevenR: | Bob-zqxlp: that'll work between frontends? |
| [20:34:38] | Bob-zqxlp: | yep |
| [20:34:47] | StevenR: | cool. must try that. Thanks Bob-zqxlp |
| [20:34:48] | hume: | StevenR, yes, in mythweb, the TV listings page |
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| [20:35:12] | StevenR: | hume: drwxrwxr-x 2 root www-data 4096 2011-02–08 22:08 data/ |
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| [20:35:37] | StevenR: | and drwxrwxr-t 2 root www-data 4096 2011-04–30 22:39 image_cache/ |
| [20:37:29] | hume: | StevenR, hrm. does it matter that usr and var are on two different drives? |
| [20:37:56] | StevenR: | no |
| [20:38:28] | StevenR: | (if it actually does, something is badly broken somewhere) |
| [20:38:52] | hume: | like where? |
| [20:39:02] | StevenR: | huh? |
| [20:40:00] | hume: | badly broken somewhere – where? can I check it? |
| [20:40:24] | hume: | my permissions look the same as yours |
| [20:40:51] | StevenR: | hume: we're talking system in unusable state, FS corruption, massively crazy bugs in mythtv that would have been spotted a long time ago if they existed at all levels of broken |
| [20:40:59] | hume: | ok |
| [20:41:15] | hume: | I also have a warning on the top of the webpage saying: Warning at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/tv/handler.php, line 17: |
| [20:41:15] | hume: | mkdir() [function.mkdir]: File exists |
| [20:41:31] | StevenR: | hume: ok, check the permissions inside there |
| [20:41:49] | StevenR: | -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 8137 2011-03–29 21:51 more4.jpg |
| [20:41:58] | hume: | inside where? |
| [20:42:19] | StevenR: | the tv_icons dir |
| [20:43:53] | hume: | tv_icons is empty |
| [20:44:05] | StevenR: | hrrm |
| [20:44:19] | StevenR: | is there any more debug info? |
| [20:44:31] | hume: | no, not on the webpage |
| [20:44:32] | StevenR: | check var/log/apache2 or httpd |
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| [20:47:29] | hume: | in error.log, there is a lot of File does not exist: /var/www/robots.txt |
| [20:47:35] | hume: | does that help...? |
| [20:47:43] | StevenR: | nope |
| [20:47:48] | StevenR: | hmmm |
| [20:48:22] | StevenR: | what's the permisisons on the parent dirs for those that I pasted above? |
| [20:48:27] | hume: | there is no httpd in /var/log... any other log to check? |
| [20:48:41] | StevenR: | does it say what dir it's attemptin to create? |
| [20:49:08] | hume: | no, just this: Error creating data/tv_icons: Please check permissions on the data directory. |
| [20:49:54] | hume: | magnus@vistaserver1:/var/www/mythweb$ ls -l | grep data |
| [20:49:54] | hume: | drwxrwxr-x 2 root www-data 4096 2011-05–08 21:32 data |
| [20:50:26] | hume: | that data is the parent dir of tv_icons (the link to image_cache) |
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| [20:51:26] | hume: | and this is for the parent of image_cache: |
| [20:51:27] | hume: | magnus@vistaserver1:/var/cache$ ls -l | grep mythweb |
| [20:51:27] | hume: | drwxr-xr-x 3 www-data root 4096 2011-05–08 21:32 mythweb |
| [20:52:18] | StevenR: | hume: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2011-02–08 22:00 mythweb/ |
| [20:52:46] | hume: | that's for the parent dir of image_cache, in var/cache? |
| [20:53:14] | StevenR: | yes |
| [20:53:23] | hume: | tried, no change |
| [20:53:58] | StevenR: | try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| [20:54:18] | hume: | ok, just did sudo service apache2 restart |
| [20:54:43] | StevenR: | no change? |
| [20:55:10] | hume: | no change |
| [20:59:29] | StevenR: | hrrm |
| [20:59:35] | StevenR: | something strange there |
| [20:59:40] | hume: | I try setting permissions as 777 to data, image_cache... no change |
| [21:00:13] | hume: | what I did before upgrade was move my /var/cache to a different drive, wonder if somwthing went wrong htere |
| [21:00:25] | StevenR: | cd /var/cache/mythweb && ll |
| [21:00:30] | hume: | but I have removed an reinstalled mythweb after that, and mythtv works |
| [21:01:07] | hume: | ll: command not found |
| [21:01:16] | StevenR: | hmm |
| [21:01:19] | StevenR: | ls -l them |
| [21:01:21] | StevenR: | *then |
| [21:01:38] | hume: | drwxrwxrwx 2 root www-data 4096 2010-09–05 07:52 image_cache |
| [21:01:46] | StevenR: | that's not right at all |
| [21:01:47] | hume: | it's at 777 for the moment |
| [21:01:54] | StevenR: | drwxrwxr-t 2 root www-data 4096 2011-04–30 22:39 image_cache/ |
| [21:01:59] | StevenR: | *t* |
| [21:02:11] | hume: | what does the t mean? |
| [21:03:14] | StevenR: | man chmod probably has the answer (My brain is failing me now, I've spent 11 hours putting a show into a theatre today) |
| [21:03:26] | hume: | ok..:) |
| [21:03:41] | hume: | you what that is in numbers? for the chmod command |
| [21:03:42] | StevenR: | given that it's set, it's likely to be important :) |
| [21:03:59] | StevenR: | not without reading the manpage sorry |
| [21:04:21] | hume: | ok |
| [21:04:22] | StevenR: | +t might do it :) |
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| [21:06:15] | hume: | ok.... now it's as yours, still no beter |
| [21:06:34] | hume: | guess I'll have to leave it until tomorrow....thx for helping |
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| [21:08:36] | hugo__: | Hi all. MythTV has proven a bit too complicated for me. |
| [21:09:11] | hugo__: | I've got a hauppage PVR 500 and for the live of me: I can't get it to show tv |
| [21:09:20] | hugo__: | used to work when I still had windows installed |
| [21:09:50] | hugo__: | Anyone willing to walk me through some checks? |
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| [21:12:46] | hugo__: | When in frontend I press "Watch TV" and MythTV says " Please wait" after that it returns to main menu |
| [21:13:09] | wagnerrp: | youve gone through mythtv-setup? all the steps? |
| [21:14:02] | hugo__: | yes serval repeats too |
| [21:14:08] | hugo__: | everal |
| [21:14:15] | AndyCap: | what is responsible for expiring stuff from the program table when using EIT? |
| [21:14:51] | wagnerrp: | hugo__: walk me through exactly what you did? |
| [21:15:03] | hugo__: | OK |
| [21:15:39] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: i believe the housekeeper sweeps anything more than a couple days old |
| [21:15:47] | hugo__: | started mythtv-setup from command line |
| [21:15:50] | AndyCap: | oh. ok |
| [21:16:22] | hugo__: | mythtv backend is closed |
| [21:16:28] | AndyCap: | I guess it's time to find some round tuit's and let it run |
| [21:16:42] | hugo__: | Graphic mythtv backend setup isshow |
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| [21:17:02] | hugo__: | 1. general -> MySQL connection setup |
| [21:17:21] | hugo__: | this seems to be OK? I saw a log somewhere that the database can be reache |
| [21:17:22] | hugo__: | d |
| [21:17:38] | wagnerrp: | if the frontend is running at all, the database is working |
| [21:17:44] | hugo__: | TV Format: PAL (I'm in europa) |
| [21:17:46] | wagnerrp: | what did you set for the local and master backend ips? |
| [21:18:07] | hugo__: | both 127.0.0.1 |
| [21:18:39] | hugo__: | VBI-format: PAL-teletext |
| [21:19:05] | hugo__: | scanner freq. table: Europe-west |
| [21:19:11] | hugo__: | timezone: auto |
| [21:19:26] | hugo__: | master backend override (true) |
| [21:19:32] | wagnerrp: | what tuner type did you configure the pvr-500 as? |
| [21:19:54] | hugo__: | capture cards right? |
| [21:20:09] | hugo__: | IVTV MPEG-2 encoder card |
| [21:20:26] | hugo__: | /dev/video1 & /dev/video0 |
| [21:20:36] | hugo__: | default input: both Tuner1 |
| [21:20:49] | AndyCap: | does the housekeeping thread remove orphan recordings? |
| [21:21:05] | wagnerrp: | and you created a video source, and you mapped the video source to the tuner input on both the card inputs? |
| [21:21:12] | wagnerrp: | did you scan for channels? |
| [21:21:22] | wagnerrp: | after scanning for channels did you go back and set one as the default channel? |
| [21:21:31] | hugo__: | yes scanned. |
| [21:21:47] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: no, the housekeeper cannot manage orphans because it has no way to tell whether a file is lost, or merely on a disk not currently mounted |
| [21:21:58] | AndyCap: | good. :) |
| [21:22:11] | hugo__: | I did not go back? let me check |
| [21:22:54] | AndyCap: | for me at least, since I have some orphaned recordings I plan to rescue. (from a database restore snafu) |
| [21:23:01] | hugo__: | Hmm can't find where to set the default channel |
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| [21:24:07] | hugo__: | I got a /dev/video0 a /dev/video1, /dev/video2( webcam) AND /dev/video32 and /dev/video33 |
| [21:24:21] | hugo__: | is that a red herring? |
| [21:24:22] | wagnerrp: | video0 and video1 are the only two you care about |
| [21:24:26] | hugo__: | ok |
| [21:24:45] | wagnerrp: | in input connections, under the tuner inputs, you should see a dropdown that lets you select the initial channel among the scanned available channels |
| [21:24:55] | wagnerrp: | you must have one set before livetv will function |
| [21:25:01] | hugo__: | AHA |
| [21:25:39] | wagnerrp: | if you record on that input, it will go straight to the channel, and subsequently update that value to allow livetv to function |
| [21:25:59] | wagnerrp: | but if you try to use livetv before doing so, mythtv will not know what channel start on (and doesnt have the smarts to just pick the first one on the list) |
| [21:28:24] | hugo__: | changed it, tested it: no change |
| [21:28:36] | hugo__: | bit of a anti-climax hahaha |
| [21:29:17] | hugo__: | How does it know which device to take? video0 or video1? |
| [21:29:22] | AndyCap: | considering my mythconverg.program is 164M / 880k entris I guess it's about time. |
| [21:31:11] | hugo__: | Anything else I can do / check? |
| [21:31:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | Gee, not a single lockup of the HD-PVRs since I setup a small fan blowing across them... Even in my cool basement with temps in the mid 70's outside, they still got too hot without it... d'oh! |
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| [21:36:39] | AndyCap: | J-e-f-f-A: heh, any idea how hot they got on the inside? |
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| [21:37:49] | Beirdo: | OK, the CD/LP ripping box is in the office finally :) |
| [21:37:53] | Beirdo: | YAY |
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| [21:38:43] | AndyCap: | Beirdo: dedicated hardware? |
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| [21:40:19] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's my old backend/frontend box |
| [21:40:39] | Beirdo: | I have a DVD jukebox and a turntable hooked up |
| [21:41:44] | AndyCap: | ok. |
| [21:42:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | AndyCap: No, I haven't measured them... One of these days I may open them up and put a heatsink on the encoder chip (or if there is already one, a bigger one!) |
| [21:42:08] | Beirdo: | and finally, it's in the office instead of all over the living room :) |
| [21:43:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: an XL1B ? ;-) |
| [21:43:32] | Beirdo: | as long as I can still listen to the music from work, all is well :) |
| [21:44:11] | AndyCap: | any semi-automated way of ripping LP's? |
| [21:44:46] | Beirdo: | nope, it's manual, and time-consuming |
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| [21:45:30] | Beirdo: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah, that's the one |
| [21:45:31] | AndyCap: | :) ok, then it ends up behind my film scanning project |
| [21:46:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: Hehehe... I've got one too. ;-) I don't have it powered on/hooked up at the moment, but it's on a shelf only about 2' from my backend... ;-) |
| [21:46:07] | Beirdo: | mine has no case on it right now, as I bought it "as-is"... the carousel isn't quite accurate when lining up a disk and I have to give it a bit of help |
| [21:46:25] | Beirdo: | but I paid $90 WITH shipping |
| [21:46:31] | Beirdo: | so I'm not too upset with it |
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| [21:46:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: Wow. I think I paid about $250 shipped for mine – like 3 or 4 years ago... |
| [21:47:07] | Beirdo: | I could hook my film scanner to this box too, but I'm not sure if SANE can use it |
| [21:47:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | it's in-sane? ;-) (sorry, couldn't resist...) |
| [21:47:27] | ** AndyCap bough vuescan ** | |
| [21:47:33] | AndyCap: | bought. |
| [21:47:56] | Beirdo: | OK, time to go back to the couch :) |
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| [21:55:07] | Beirdo: | home, sweet couch |
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| [22:01:17] | Bezosh: | I want to build media center on Opensuse. |
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| [22:01:46] | Bezosh: | I em looking for to bue my first USB DVB-T dongle |
| [22:03:26] | Bezosh: | I am looking for to bue my first USB DVB-T dongle |
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| [22:03:41] | Bezosh: | is some the best? |
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| [22:09:22] | Bezosh: | Which usb DVB-T actually on the market is reliable and supported na Linux? |
| [22:09:38] | Bezosh: | Which usb DVB-T actually on the market is reliable and supported on Linux? |
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| [22:10:34] | Gumby: | hi all, is there a way to delete an input connection? I accidentally created one on the wrong tuner |
| [22:11:03] | Gumby: | d,backspace,delete dont seem to do it (if they are supposed to) |
| [22:11:19] | Gumby: | sorry, I should specify, is there a way to do it in mythtv-setup |
| [22:11:29] | Gumby: | or should I just delete them from the DB manually? |
| [22:12:15] | AndyCap: | Bezosh: hard to say, what do you have available in your stores? |
| [22:12:34] | Beirdo: | Bezosh: please stop asking everything twice :) You aren't getting an answer as nobody likely knows the answer. |
| [22:12:35] | AndyCap: | Bezosh: match what you can buy up with the linuxtv wiki? |
| [22:12:50] | Beirdo: | the best way is yeah... what's available, go from there |
| [22:13:01] | Beirdo: | Gumby: d should work |
| [22:13:24] | Beirdo: | !url tuners |
| [22:13:24] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [22:13:35] | Beirdo: | Bezosh: ^^ |
| [22:14:04] | Gumby: | hrm, odd |
| [22:14:50] | Gumby: | Beirdo: is it safe to delete straight from the database? |
| [22:14:58] | Beirdo: | not really |
| [22:15:25] | Gumby: | ok. in the keys setup what does d match up to by default? "delete" |
| [22:15:34] | randomuser-field: | i'm having trouble getting audio output from mythfrontend, afaik, pluse is set up correctly and does see mythfrontend as a source, and all levels are appropriate. what to i look at next? |
| [22:15:41] | Beirdo: | I believe so |
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| [22:17:40] | Bezosh: | Do anybody have AVerTV DVB-T Volar HD Nano (A867R) |
| [22:20:20] | Beirdo: | Bezosh: did you look on the link I gave you? |
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| [22:20:42] | Gumby: | Beirdo: interesting. If I go through and set the Video Source to "None" that also deletes it. Good to know |
| [22:21:21] | Bezosh: | There is out of date information. |
| [22:22:36] | Bezosh: | I want curantly experience |
| [22:22:45] | Beirdo: | it is the most up-to-date info you are going to get |
| [22:23:33] | Beirdo: | it's a shame people don't keep it up-to-date, but still |
| [22:23:33] | randomuser-field: | actually, this looks like a system wide audio issue |
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