| Saturday, April 30th, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:34] | mianos: | there are several patches but, yes, it seems none of them made it to the mainline |
| [00:00:42] | Beirdo: | I remember the discussion stage, but that's it |
| [00:00:52] | mianos: | my spdiff is delayed by about 180ms |
| [00:01:10] | wagnerrp: | the audio was delayed? |
| [00:01:15] | mianos: | yes |
| [00:01:19] | wagnerrp: | i thought the issue was the video was delayed |
| [00:01:27] | wagnerrp: | since the receiver was playing in near real time |
| [00:01:34] | wagnerrp: | but the TV has introducing a long delay |
| [00:01:46] | mianos: | you may well be right, I move the slider to the right |
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| [00:02:44] | mianos: | I might make a build environment and try a patch |
| [00:03:57] | mianos: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4262 |
| [00:03:59] | mianos: | like that one |
| [00:04:45] | mianos: | or this: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7772 |
| [00:06:03] | mianos: | hmm, or one of many more |
| [00:06:09] | mianos: | seems a popular thing to patch |
| [00:08:11] | wagnerrp: | seems a popular thing to patch because people screw up their transcodes (or more likely are using someone else's screwed up transcode) |
| [00:08:31] | mianos: | mythbuntu stock now |
| [00:08:47] | wagnerrp: | instances where broadcast or distributed material, and your case where you have a hardware limitation, are much more rare |
| [00:09:49] | mianos: | 30 posts with the problem on whirlpool |
| [00:10:03] | wagnerrp: | got a link? |
| [00:10:03] | mianos: | maybe some people are not sensitive to the lip sync as well |
| [00:10:48] | wagnerrp: | if there are 10 people involved in that discussion, i guarantee 8 of them are having trouble with illegally acquired (and poorly transcoded) content |
| [00:11:56] | mianos: | maybe |
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| [00:12:02] | mianos: | I am talking about live TV |
| [00:12:56] | wagnerrp: | i would say nearly everyone complaining about livetv sync issues is either using an improperly configured framegrabber, or is trying to force the use of pulseaudio and suffering the consequences |
| [00:12:58] | mianos: | it's tru that a lot of dodgy stuff out there has dodgy autio |
| [00:13:29] | mianos: | I'm using alsa |
| [00:13:51] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, your case of some external hardware setup causing problems is rare |
| [00:14:33] | mianos: | it's possible that's my case, I run HDMI to the LCD and spdif to a surround amp |
| [00:14:56] | wagnerrp: | right, my guess is that the TV has delay, while the amp does not |
| [00:15:13] | wagnerrp: | so you need to manually offset the video to compensate |
| [00:15:31] | mianos: | it seems very consistant, pretty much playing anything |
| [00:15:46] | wagnerrp: | and such an issue would be consistently offset |
| [00:18:21] | mianos: | yes, and a persistant offset instead of a new TV might solve it |
| [00:18:56] | wagnerrp: | im not saying its something that shouldnt be fixed and wouldnt be useful |
| [00:19:12] | wagnerrp: | more that the majority of posts on the topic are on unrelated issues |
| [00:19:21] | wagnerrp: | issues that would not be solved by a global offset |
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| [00:30:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | grr... both HD-PVR's crapped out today – probably due to heat... I've got a fan on them now, but too late as most of the HD recordings failed today... (it was in the mid-70's today) |
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| [01:07:54] | jams_: | wagnerrp- my keyboard has a funny char in the description and it causes smolt and smoon to error out with unicode error. Do you see any major problems with this decode..or have a better solution. |
| [01:07:58] | jams_: | desc = cat(PATH + 'product')[0].strip().decode('ASCII', errors='ignore') |
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| [01:42:36] | mycoserve: | wow j-e-f-f-a that isnt even hot |
| [01:42:52] | mycoserve: | not very imporessive hardware lol |
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| [01:58:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | mycoserve: Yeah, they overheat pretty easily. |
| [01:58:46] | J-e-f-f-A: | mycoserve: Last year it was in the 80's for a couple of weeks, and until I put a fan blowing on them, they failed every day... |
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| [02:05:16] | mycosys: | hate to see what they would do here |
| [02:05:40] | mycosys: | spends weeks at a time in the high 30s C (90s) |
| [02:10:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | mycosys Yeah, they probably just don't have a big enough heatsink on the encoder chip or something... |
| [02:11:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mycosys: I haven't opened them up to see if they even have a heatsink on the encoder chip... thinking back to iam's pictures, I don't think they do... |
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| [02:18:54] | mycosys: | might be a worthwhile addition |
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| [03:24:38] | wagnerrp: | jams_: thats in the hardware profile stuff? |
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| [03:27:40] | wagnerrp: | by that, i mean the sysfs stuff |
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| [03:38:43] | jams_: | yes for usb |
| [03:50:13] | wagnerrp: | i say scrap the whole thing |
| [03:50:26] | wagnerrp: | and migrate it to py3x where unicode is dealt with sensibly |
| [03:50:29] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [03:52:19] | wagnerrp: | looks like thats all in devicelist.py |
| [03:55:17] | wagnerrp: | could i see the whole backtrace? |
| [03:55:57] | wagnerrp: | is the problem with sending the unicode text through to the backend server? |
| [03:56:07] | wagnerrp: | i dont see any problem with that specific line of code |
| [03:56:22] | jams_: | one moment |
| [03:59:42] | wagnerrp: | can the JSONEncoder not handle unicode? |
| [04:00:12] | jams_: | http://pastebin.com/3tLUeT8N |
| [04:00:59] | wagnerrp: | oh, so its only the debugging output |
| [04:01:06] | jams_: | that stacktrace is when using the client to view the submission |
| [04:01:19] | jams_: | however..if you send it to the server it bombs with the same error |
| [04:01:36] | jams_: | the server is unable to process that record and the profile is not displayed |
| [04:02:18] | jams_: | i don't have a stack trace from the server |
| [04:06:53] | wagnerrp: | try this one in devicelist.py... http://pastebin.com/siU0x67W |
| [04:07:41] | wagnerrp: | snagged from what doug vaughn came up with to get socket communications with the backend to work properly |
| [04:08:35] | wagnerrp: | should convert everything to unicode so such characters are handled properly |
| [04:08:42] | jams_: | it worked client side |
| [04:08:44] | wagnerrp: | there may still be issues during printing though |
| [04:08:51] | jams_: | worked with printing |
| [04:09:03] | jams_: | checking server |
| [04:09:36] | jams_: | drats server still gives 500 |
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| [04:19:10] | jams_: | i will look at it more tomorrow. More or less just wanted to make sure there was nothing horribly wrong with tacking on the .decode so it strips out those chars |
| [04:26:11] | wagnerrp: | jams_: well for what its worth, unicode is the bane of python programmers everywhere |
| [04:26:21] | jams_: | yep |
| [04:26:37] | jams_: | truthfully I try to avoid it =) |
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| [04:29:34] | wagnerrp: | you could just scan through each string and replace unicode text with an empty space |
| [04:30:24] | jams_: | yes thats not all that different then .decode with errors='ignore' |
| [04:30:37] | jams_: | except it just removes instead of adding a space |
| [04:30:56] | jams_: | guess it does have errors='replace' |
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| [06:33:51] | wagnerrp: | 'multi threaded libavcodec'... Beirdo, didnt realize that was part of the sync |
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| [06:37:55] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [06:38:15] | Beirdo: | whatever was on git.ffmpeg.org at that time got synced |
| [06:38:38] | Beirdo: | as far as I know, that did not include a completed ffmpeg-mt branch |
| [06:38:46] | Beirdo: | but parts of it likely are there |
| [06:39:13] | wagnerrp: | well its referenced in configure |
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| [06:39:26] | Beirdo: | well, I guess parts of it are there :) |
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| [06:40:28] | Beirdo: | OK, I now have a command-line option to set the syslog facility |
| [06:40:59] | Beirdo: | one more for disabling the db logging, and I think I'm good to go for now |
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| [08:53:52] | mrluksom: | Hi, I'm getting a MYTH_PROTO_VERSION error since upgrading from 0.23 to 0.24 (as a Ubuntu upgrade from 10.10 -> 11.04). I have checked my IP settings for both the FE and the FE/BE, and they appear to be correct (actual IP's specified). |
| [08:53:55] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 17:13:05.736 MythCoreContext: Connecting to backend server: 10.1.1.4:6543 (try 1 of 1) |
| [08:53:55] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 17:13:12.737 MythSocket(32e6e70:55): readStringList: Error, timed out after 7000 ms. |
| [08:53:55] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 17:13:12.737 Protocol version check failure. |
| [08:53:55] | mrluksom: | The response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION was empty. |
| [08:53:55] | mrluksom: | This happens when the backend is too busy to respond, |
| [08:53:56] | mrluksom: | or has deadlocked in due to bugs or hardware failure. |
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| [09:24:38] | jya: | mrluksom: check that mythbackend is actually running, and isn't a ghost or something. To be sure kill it and restart it |
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| [09:41:22] | mrluksom: | thanks jya, I have restarted the backend and the MYTH_PROTO_VERSION error is gone. However the three lines above that error still occur: |
| [09:41:23] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 19:39:22.316 MythSocket(ffffffffb64b0d70:27): readStringList: Error, timed out after 30000 ms. |
| [09:41:24] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 19:39:22.316 Connection to backend server lost |
| [09:41:24] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 19:39:22.317 MythCoreContext: Connecting to backend server: 10.1.1.4:6543 (try 1 of 1) |
| [09:41:25] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 19:39:22.322 Using protocol version 63 |
| [09:41:55] | jya: | but does it work now ? |
| [09:42:12] | jya: | what do you see in the backend log? |
| [09:51:57] | mrluksom: | It will start, however it will hang repeatedly and then restart. The backend log shows this: |
| [09:51:58] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 19:50:53.899 MythSocket(7feec408c350:-1): writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket. |
| [09:51:59] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 19:50:53.982 MythSocket(7feec408c350:-1): readStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket. |
| [09:51:59] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 19:50:53.945 MainServer, Warning: Unknown socket closing MythSocket(0x7feec402bea0) |
| [09:51:59] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 19:50:54.024 PlaybackSock::SendReceiveStringList(): No response. |
| [09:52:00] | mrluksom: | 2011-04–30 19:50:54.067 MythSocket(7feec402bea0:-1): writeStringList: Error, socket went unconnected. |
| [09:52:02] | mrluksom: | We wrote 0 of 279 bytes with 1 errors |
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| [09:54:37] | jya: | where did you get the binary from ? |
| [09:55:47] | mrluksom: | ubuntu update 10.04 -> 11.10. The version is : 2:0.24.0+fixes.20110416.9ba3ece-0ubuntu1 |
| [09:56:54] | mrluksom: | Both FE and BE are running the same version. |
| [10:00:46] | jya: | 11.10 ? |
| [10:00:50] | jya: | is that even out? |
| [10:01:17] | mrluksom: | sorry, I meant 11.04! |
| [10:01:48] | jya: | not sure what's wrong here... maybe you have some old version hanging out somewhere.. |
| [10:03:08] | mrluksom: | I think tomorrow I might do I clean install on both the FE and the BE. Just one more question, where is the DB located so I do not wipe it in a fresh install? Is it located in the one of the storage groups? |
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| [10:18:26] | mrluksom: | I think I've got it sorted, thanks jya. |
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| [10:18:44] | jya: | what did you do? |
| [10:18:54] | jya: | the DB is usually located where mysql is |
| [10:19:12] | jya: | "/var/lib/mysql" |
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| [10:21:34] | bergqvistjl: | Hi, I have a problem with mythweb (v0.24), whenever I view program details for a program in mythweb's EPG, I have this warning at the top: |
| [10:21:35] | bergqvistjl: | Warning at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/tv/detail.php, line 306: |
| [10:21:35] | bergqvistjl: | !!NoTrans: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()!! |
| [10:22:13] | bergqvistjl: | is there any way i can either disable php warnings from showing up in mythweb, or fix the warning in the php file it mensions? |
| [10:22:39] | bergqvistjl: | this is the foreach statement at 306: foreach (Schedule::findScheduled() as $callsign => $shows) |
| [10:23:44] | bergqvistjl: | a post on ubuntu forums said an optimise & repair on the database would fix it, ive tried those but they have no effect |
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| [11:40:04] | bergqvistjl: | well given that my system is now kernel panicking whenever I log off, i may as well do a format |
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| [12:45:51] | trumee: | is there any way to Normalise sound in mythvideo 'internal' player? |
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| [13:37:59] | StevenR: | Hi. I'm trying to lower the volume, but it won't lower. |
| [13:38:14] | StevenR: | I thought it was F9/F10 for Vol-up/Vol-down |
| [13:38:29] | StevenR: | or F10/F11 even |
| [13:38:46] | StevenR: | mute doesn't work either |
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| [13:46:51] | StevenR: | ok. I've found '[' and ']', but those only claim to alter the volume. No actual change occurs. |
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| [14:18:49] | mycosys: | amd cool'n'quiet hasnt been activated by the time you get to the bios screens has it? |
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| [15:56:28] | StevenR: | how do I disable the screenshot thing in mythweb's remote control page? I can't see any settings for mythweb |
| [15:56:56] | StevenR: | it causes the playback on the frontend I'm controlling to stutter, and it's completely unnecessary |
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| [16:09:48] | wagnerrp: | trumee: no, mythtv has no auto-normalization mechanism |
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| [16:26:35] | FabriceMG: | wagnerrp, where is 0.25 status? alpha, beta, final ? |
| [16:28:25] | wagnerrp: | alpha/beta would imply were following some release schedule |
| [16:28:39] | FabriceMG: | ok |
| [16:28:59] | wagnerrp: | mythtv follows a more free-form release |
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| [16:29:08] | wagnerrp: | developers work largely independently |
| [16:29:08] | mycosys: | aka when its done? |
| [16:29:22] | wagnerrp: | and at someone point, someone gets anxious for a release |
| [16:29:31] | wagnerrp: | and everyone decides, 'yeah, were good for now' |
| [16:30:07] | wagnerrp: | considering the web setup GUI was one of the primary goals for 0.25 |
| [16:30:17] | wagnerrp: | and it is currently in a half-completed state |
| [16:30:42] | wagnerrp: | i expect that to be finished before we start setting a release timeline |
| [16:30:53] | wagnerrp: | so maybe... early/mid summer |
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| [16:32:04] | mycosys: | summer being winter right lol |
| [16:32:54] | wagnerrp: | nah, theres actually a pretty good start on it |
| [16:33:13] | ** StevenR thinks mycosys lives in the upside down half of the planet ** | |
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| [16:33:34] | wagnerrp: | oh, right |
| [16:33:44] | wagnerrp: | you crazy southern hemispherians |
| [16:33:47] | FabriceMG: | today for nothing, I upgrade to mythbuntu 11.04 , 0.24 ok, but sasc don't compile, problem with source header and V4L2, for finish I downgrad to 10.10 |
| [16:34:00] | ** StevenR continues to mutter at mythtv and wonder why the volume control no longer works, why mythweb causes things to stutter ** | |
| [16:34:10] | wagnerrp: | you know we cant help you with that |
| [16:34:32] | FabriceMG: | wagnerrp, i said |
| [16:34:44] | mycosys: | :D |
| [16:36:38] | FabriceMG: | now, the 0.24 work well |
| [16:38:24] | FabriceMG: | mythgame work in 0.24? |
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| [17:06:24] | Tario: | hi |
| [17:06:54] | Tario: | I upgraded to 0.24 and now recording and live tv work no more |
| [17:07:17] | Tario: | http://pastebin.com/hYjRJ4xs that's the part from the mythbackend log when starting live tv |
| [17:07:21] | wagnerrp: | did you just upgrade mythtv, or did you upgrade the whole systsem as well? |
| [17:07:29] | Tario: | whole system (mythbuntu) |
| [17:07:55] | Tario: | but the cards work outside of mythtv |
| [17:08:02] | wagnerrp: | meaning you probably got hit with the V4L1/2.6.38 issue |
| [17:08:36] | Tario: | shouldn't this be fixed in ubuntu? there is a patch for v4l2 |
| [17:09:06] | Tario: | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/717717 |
| [17:09:27] | wagnerrp: | only if theyre applying the fix to their local branch |
| [17:10:49] | Tario: | I checked the source package and it's there |
| [17:11:46] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, the mythtv builds show Video4Linux2 support |
| [17:11:52] | tgm4883: | not Video4Linux support |
| [17:12:11] | tgm4883: | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/70351356/build . . . LDING.txt.gz |
| [17:12:44] | wagnerrp: | perhaps this is a very old tuner driver that is still using old V4L1 methods? |
| [17:13:53] | Tario: | one is a sundtek |
| [17:14:03] | Tario: | and the other a hauppauge hvr-4000 |
| [17:14:41] | wagnerrp: | well DVB off the -4000 should work just fine |
| [17:15:06] | Tario: | I don't have DVB, I need analog tv |
| [17:15:36] | wagnerrp: | well honestly, neither of those cards should be used to record analog |
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| [17:16:53] | Tario: | but that used to work perfectly |
| [17:24:16] | Tario: | what cards can be used for recording analog tv then? |
| [17:24:31] | wagnerrp: | for analog in mythtv, you want an mpeg encoder |
| [17:24:37] | wagnerrp: | the -4000 might be one, im not sure |
| [17:25:03] | wagnerrp: | but i would suspect any analog card would run into the same V4L1 issues |
| [17:25:22] | wagnerrp: | however i dont know enough about what that issue is to be sure thats whats going on here |
| [17:25:24] | wagnerrp: | or how to fix it |
| [17:26:41] | Tario: | any idea if there is a possibility with a custom kernel or something like that? |
| [17:27:20] | wagnerrp: | if its the v4l1/2.6.38 issue, it would affect all of 2.6.38, and no custom kernel would resolve it |
| [17:27:55] | Tario: | is there a way to check if this is the issue? |
| [17:31:44] | Tario: | I just tried qv4l2 tool and this works fine |
| [17:32:37] | Tario: | with both cards |
| [17:33:24] | wagnerrp: | v4l2 stuff works fine |
| [17:33:49] | wagnerrp: | the issue was that v4l1 was ripped out of the 2.6.38 kernel, and mythtv still used some of its methods |
| [17:34:49] | Tario: | ic, so if i would downgrade to an older kernel and build my own mythtv without the ubuntu patch |
| [17:34:52] | Tario: | it might work? |
| [17:35:14] | wagnerrp: | the ubuntu patch is supposedly supposed to remove those v4l1 calls |
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| [17:42:34] | Tario: | Ok, I'm gonna try 2.6.37 now without the v4l2 patch and see if that works |
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| [18:03:38] | dmz: | howdy y'all, i just setup a new frontend and no matter what i do it keeps defaulting to terra theme, i change it, it says it is changed but it only displays the terra theme |
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| [18:08:08] | dmz: | wierd i rebooted & it was ok |
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| [18:44:00] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: around? |
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| [19:44:19] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: anyway, i just knew you had mentioned a desire to look into mythgallery storage groups |
| [19:44:44] | wagnerrp: | just wanted to know if you had done anything with it, i was going to try to work on it tonight |
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| [19:49:43] | StevenR: | urrgh. mythtv frontend (mythfrontend version: fixes/0.24 [v0.24-250-g56c54fa]) won't stop properly. I hit escape to leave playback, and it just stops. All I get is 2011-04–30 20:48:23.319 TV: Attempting to change from WatchingPreRecorded to None |
| [19:50:35] | StevenR: | doesn't seem to be a way to get it out of this state without killing the process |
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| [20:02:02] | bcgrown: | my 8400GS seems to struggle with the more advanced VDPAU deinterlacing methods... would a GT520 be a lot better? i.e this one: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60555&vpn=Z . . . acture=Zotac |
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| [20:14:40] | bcgrown: | bueller.. bueller... anybody? would this card: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60555&vpn=Z . . . acture=Zotac be better at VDPAU deinterlacing than my 8400GS (which can barely handle Bob 2x HW) |
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| [20:48:21] | DeviceZer0: | hmm. anyone familiar with lirc on fedora? running fedora 15 and lirc fails to create the folder /var/run/lirc/ so lirc refuses to start. if i manually create the folder it starts but everytime i reboot that folder disapears. |
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| [21:06:08] | vbman2: | hey anyone know how to change hex codes to pronto ? |
| [21:06:30] | vbman2: | i have directv installer manual that lists ir hex codes but i need pronto format |
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| [21:34:16] | dpash: | so several questions, possibly all related |
| [21:34:36] | dpash: | I have two tuners |
| [21:35:00] | dpash: | I've set up a DVB-T source and assigned both these cards to the source |
| [21:35:45] | dpash: | having done a channel scan I have multiple channels that are the same channel |
| [21:36:30] | dpash: | is this to be expected? |
| [21:36:50] | StevenR: | depending on your location, yes |
| [21:37:04] | dpash: | like for BBC One, I have 4 channels, with two different freqids |
| [21:37:33] | StevenR: | so two actually different channels? |
| [21:37:47] | dpash: | I would assume so |
| [21:38:03] | dpash: | but they're the same content |
| [21:38:07] | StevenR: | where do you see this list of channels? |
| [21:38:28] | dpash: | I'm looking on mythweb at the moment |
| [21:38:38] | StevenR: | oh. |
| [21:39:04] | StevenR: | on the main listings page? |
| [21:39:25] | dpash: | no, in the settings page |
| [21:39:29] | dpash: | mythweb/settings/tv/channels |
| [21:40:45] | StevenR: | hrrm. |
| [21:40:52] | StevenR: | what does the listings page show? |
| [21:41:45] | dpash: | well, I've given them all the same channel number, so it only shows one |
| [21:41:59] | StevenR: | ok |
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| [21:43:24] | dpash: | so I set something to record earlier, and while watching something it said that I needed to watch it while it was recording, as if it hadn't noticed the second tuner |
| [21:43:34] | leebier: | ok, so i'm, as always, a total idiot and upgraded to 11.04 even though everything was working. Needless to say, my HVR-2250 is no longer initializing. I am seeing some discussion of this when I google and a couple ad-hoc solutions, but was hoping someone here had a definitive answer |
| [21:44:15] | dpash: | the channel in question only has one channel listed in the database |
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| [21:44:54] | dpash: | should I expect two channels, one per tuner? |
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| [21:47:27] | StevenR: | dpash: I only see one |
| [21:47:53] | StevenR: | dpash: what's the hardware setup? two identical pieces of hardware, with an aerial splitter? |
| [21:49:12] | dpash: | StevenR: yeah, it's a USB stick with two tuners in it |
| [21:49:50] | dpash: | NovaT 500Stick |
| [21:51:31] | dpash: | but it presents as two different device nodes |
| [21:51:58] | StevenR: | ok |
| [21:52:08] | StevenR: | so you have dvb0 and dvb1 |
| [21:52:09] | StevenR: | ? |
| [21:54:42] | dpash: | yep |
| [21:55:03] | StevenR: | ok |
| [21:55:12] | StevenR: | hmmm. I wonder how I've got it configured then |
| [21:55:14] | dpash: | well /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 and /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 |
| [21:55:36] | StevenR: | I only see one list of channels |
| [21:55:59] | StevenR: | but I've two pieces of hardware (the cheaper USB hauppage things, about 30GBP) |
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| [22:06:15] | StevenR: | dpash: have you configured only one "video source" ? |
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| [22:15:06] | dpash: | StevenR: yes |
| [22:15:22] | dpash: | StevenR: although it does appear to be recording two things currently |
| [22:15:36] | dpash: | so it is using bother tuners |
| [22:15:38] | dpash: | both* |
| [22:17:51] | dpash: | StevenR: although that sort of moves onto my other question |
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| [22:18:28] | dpash: | I've set the DVB-T source to use the EIT to get programme data, but this doesn't get everything, in particuarly BBC |
| [22:18:49] | dpash: | so I've set up a XMLTV video source too |
| [22:18:53] | StevenR: | dpash: what channels are you recording from? |
| [22:19:06] | dpash: | bbc3 and itv1 |
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| [22:19:14] | StevenR: | don't use EIT, it's not complete in the UK afaik. |
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| [22:20:10] | dpash: | okay, I'll switch my DVB-t source to use xmltv and delete the xmltv videosource |
| [22:20:54] | dpash: | Can I delete my duplicate channels? think it'll cause a problem? |
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| [22:31:23] | StevenR: | dpash: I couldn't find a setting :S |
| [22:32:04] | StevenR: | actually.... it seems to be the video source bit |
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| [22:41:55] | wizbit: | my dell screen has arrived :D |
| [22:43:26] | ** wizbit awaits iamlindoro ** | |
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| [23:42:53] | bcgrown: | what's the difference between Advanced and Temporal deinterlacers, picture quality-wise? |
| [23:44:25] | [R]: | the advanced is better |
| [23:45:35] | bcgrown: | for high-motion, like hockey? i can't tell the difference but there's only figure skating on right now :( |
| [23:46:11] | [R]: | i use temporal and ive noticed artifacts on fast motion, but not enough to make me want to do anyting about it |
| [23:48:44] | bcgrown: | there's one good thing about figure skating, at least... :) |
| [23:59:09] | bcgrown: | nother question... i run mythwelcome to start/shutdown my PC as needed. desktop is xfce/mythbuntu. mythfrontend always steals focus from mythfrontend and responds to remote events that it shouldn't respond to. how can I stop this?\ |
| [23:59:23] | bcgrown: | can I change window managers or ditch XFCE or something? |
| [23:59:43] | bcgrown: | there's no need for a full desktop when all i need to run is mythtv |
| [23:59:49] | bcgrown: | (combined frontend+backend) |
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