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| [00:30:59] | ** iamlindoro notes that Doctor Who is back tomorrow, yay ** | |
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| [01:01:14] | Twiggy2cents: | I just want to say that I love the fact that mythv fixes conflicts when it can. That is a awesome feature |
| [01:03:57] | Twiggy2cents: | if my tuner h/w encodes to mpeg 2, is there any downside to flagging commercials as the show goes? My be is kinda slow and seems to take as long as the show is to flag. |
| [01:06:38] | wagnerrp: | so its a PVR-150/500? |
| [01:06:54] | Twiggy2cents: | no its a tv wonder |
| [01:07:11] | Twiggy2cents: | I guess it doesnt encode, it just dumps the stream right? |
| [01:07:20] | wagnerrp: | pretty sure ATI never produced any encoder cards usable by mythtv |
| [01:07:42] | Twiggy2cents: | Pretty sure I am using one :) |
| [01:07:45] | Twiggy2cents: | hang on I will get the model |
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| [01:08:15] | singlegirlarity: | is there a way to change the "Default Timeout" |
| [01:08:29] | singlegirlarity: | I'm looking on forums and it's weird I can't find it... |
| [01:08:55] | wagnerrp: | what is the 'default timeout'? |
| [01:09:35] | Twiggy2cents: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI/AMD . . . r_HD_600_USB |
| [01:09:41] | singlegirlarity: | i mean the number of milliseconds before it times out when changing channels |
| [01:10:35] | wagnerrp: | no, that is not an encoder card |
| [01:10:56] | Twiggy2cents: | It just dumps then? |
| [01:11:09] | singlegirlarity: | yes, it dumps |
| [01:11:27] | singlegirlarity: | er, nm you were talking to him |
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| [01:11:48] | wagnerrp: | yes, it record digital transmissions |
| [01:12:09] | Twiggy2cents: | Regardless, is comm flagging while recording recommended against in my situation or would it be okay? I am working on a crappy 1 core p4 be |
| [01:12:16] | wagnerrp: | so if your backend is fast enough to commflag ATSC in real time, there would be no downside |
| [01:12:33] | wagnerrp: | a single core P4... might want to leave it disabled |
| [01:12:39] | Twiggy2cents: | lol |
| [01:13:40] | Twiggy2cents: | Could it load the computer enough that it has problems storing the stream? All it would be doing at the time is storing the stream with the FE reading the stream. Would that load it too much? |
| [01:14:23] | wagnerrp: | conceiveably, yes |
| [01:14:24] | iamlindoro: | Yes, you could theoretically cause I/O issues if you peg the processor while trying to record. |
| [01:14:41] | wagnerrp: | there is a very low load mechanism in mythcommflag |
| [01:15:01] | wagnerrp: | that uses sleep to prevent it from using more than 20% CPU |
| [01:15:06] | wagnerrp: | specifically for that reason |
| [01:15:29] | Twiggy2cents: | so then its going to cause more load and go slower then? |
| [01:15:55] | wagnerrp: | more load? |
| [01:17:26] | Twiggy2cents: | Basically I am confused, you are saying it could cause issues AND it wont use more than 20% cpu? The load I was referring to was the processor. |
| [01:17:58] | wagnerrp: | no, im saying that this mode is specifically designed for such low performance machines |
| [01:18:05] | wagnerrp: | so it does not interfere with other operations |
| [01:18:14] | Twiggy2cents: | oh so it is an option not a default feature |
| [01:18:30] | Twiggy2cents: | Is this only active when the computer is not idle? |
| [01:19:22] | wagnerrp: | no, its either enabled or disabled for everything |
| [01:20:57] | Twiggy2cents: | Ohh. Well I will just take the safe route and just let it flag after the recording. But I have one more question. If I record two consecutive recordings, does the 1st recording flag at 100% while the second is recording? |
| [01:22:36] | wagnerrp: | yes, it will not wait for all recordings to complete before starting |
| [01:23:24] | Twiggy2cents: | Well I guess my BE can handle it then. I havent ever had an error related to that... YET. |
| [01:25:54] | Twiggy2cents: | In that situation my load is 2.2. I forget how to read the load, does that mean that it is trying to run at 2 times my processor capability. Excuse me for probably sounded retarded about that. |
| [01:26:47] | Twiggy2cents: | Overloaded by 220%? |
| [01:27:47] | wagnerrp: | a load of 2.2 means that you have 2.2 processes in queue waiting to run |
| [01:30:02] | Twiggy2cents: | Is that considered a high load? Or does it even matter if one process is high load and the rest are low load. Or does it account for that? Again I apologize for these really basic questions. |
| [01:31:08] | wagnerrp: | the load average is that for the whole system, not a single program |
| [01:33:48] | singlegirlarity: | how do I change the "Channel Change Timeout" |
| [01:34:11] | Twiggy2cents: | Is that a statement or a question? If it is a question it is the system load. |
| [01:34:25] | Twiggy2cents: | Now its up to 3.04 |
| [01:34:41] | Twiggy2cents: | s/3.04/3.40/ |
| [01:35:32] | wagnerrp: | that was a statement |
| [01:35:45] | wagnerrp: | one thread running full out generates a load of 1 |
| [01:35:58] | wagnerrp: | if you have 5 threads running full out, you will have a load of 5 |
| [01:36:16] | Twiggy2cents: | Ohh. Is commercial flagging multi process ? |
| [01:36:32] | wagnerrp: | decoding itself is single threaded |
| [01:36:41] | wagnerrp: | but commflagging of the decoded video is multithreaded |
| [01:37:45] | Twiggy2cents: | I see. Is the load more accurate than seeing a percentage of cpu load for seeing computer load? |
| [01:39:27] | wagnerrp: | no, they are two completely different metrics |
| [01:39:56] | wagnerrp: | cpu load is.... cpu load |
| [01:40:02] | wagnerrp: | load average is how much stuff you have running |
| [01:40:25] | Twiggy2cents: | Ohh I see. Thanks for the basic linux lesson :) |
| [01:40:28] | wagnerrp: | it means that if your load average is 3, you would optimally have three cores |
| [01:42:15] | Twiggy2cents: | One more thing. Does load average take into account the amount of cores, referring to your example would a 3 core computer show 1.00? |
| [01:42:34] | wagnerrp: | no, it would still show as 3 |
| [01:42:41] | Twiggy2cents: | ohh |
| [01:44:43] | sphery: | singlegirlarity: pretty sure there's no way to change it other than editing the code |
| [01:45:41] | sphery: | singlegirlarity: unless you mean for the capture devices... I was thinking channel number input |
| [01:45:58] | sphery: | if you mean capture devices, there should be timeouts under the capture card configuration in mythtv-setup |
| [01:46:34] | sphery: | wagnerrp: did you see this week's Bones? Does it look like they're doing an intro for a new show? |
| [01:46:47] | wagnerrp: | that would be my guess |
| [01:46:49] | sphery: | (not really so much a spin off, but ...) |
| [01:47:00] | sphery: | yeah, definnitely looks suspicious |
| [01:47:25] | Twiggy2cents: | so just retouching on the original question. My BE can commflag the previous show before the consecutive show ends. Would there be anything against doing it in real time? |
| [01:47:34] | sphery: | I feel like I did when JAG worked closely with NCIS or when NCIS went to LA |
| [01:47:41] | Twiggy2cents: | sphery, what do you mean? I watched bones, but maybe not close enough |
| [01:47:46] | Twiggy2cents: | The finder/ |
| [01:47:48] | Twiggy2cents: | ? |
| [01:48:08] | wagnerrp: | yeah... how this week wasnt really an episode of bones? |
| [01:48:20] | wagnerrp: | it had whole new characters, and the main characters served bit parts |
| [01:48:23] | sphery: | yeah, usually they only have one or 2 characters, but they're building up the 3 characters pretty deeply for just random guests |
| [01:49:03] | sphery: | I'm 13:26 into it and am already thinking new series |
| [01:49:18] | Twiggy2cents: | You guys over analyze :) I watch shows and I am happy |
| [01:49:22] | sphery: | and I would definitely watch the new show |
| [01:50:12] | Twiggy2cents: | sphery, do you watch any shows real time? |
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| [01:50:35] | wagnerrp: | real... time...? |
| [01:50:36] | sphery: | no--I'm actually strangely up to date on a few series this season |
| [01:50:44] | Twiggy2cents: | lol |
| [01:50:53] | sphery: | I generally would wait until the end of season to start watching a show |
| [01:51:14] | sphery: | but picked a few shows that I really like and decided to watch as the season progresses |
| [01:51:24] | sphery: | (I'll be watching Fringe and Supernatural later tonight :) |
| [01:51:53] | Twiggy2cents: | I am to impatient to not. Mythtv's main use right now is to record i love lucy, andy griffith, and the conflicting shows. With only one tuner I am forced to watch some shows in real time no matter what |
| [01:52:10] | Twiggy2cents: | sphery, are you holding off on smallville? |
| [01:52:17] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, seems it was a "backdoor spinoff" |
| [01:52:34] | sphery: | Twiggy2cents: I'm one episode behind... might wait for the final one to get back to it |
| [01:52:51] | sphery: | wagnerrp: http://hitfix.com/blogs/the-fien-print/posts/ . . . -did-it-work + http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/ . . . pin-off.html |
| [01:52:53] | Twiggy2cents: | I hope the final gives good closure |
| [01:53:30] | sphery: | yeah... if they stick to the original plan as I understand it (that this show leads into where Clark & Lois starts off), I think it should be good |
| [01:54:03] | sphery: | I will admit that I'm ready for it to end (and not just because it unjustly beat SG-1 in number of episodes)... It changed a lot when Chloe and Lex left |
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| [01:54:32] | Twiggy2cents: | (that this show leads into where Clark & Lois starts off) You mean starts off their comic book life? |
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| [01:55:15] | sphery: | er, Lois & Clark... wasn't that the name of the tv show with young, but not kid, Superman? |
| [01:55:19] | Twiggy2cents: | It definitely change when they left.. I dont think it was bad though, but then again I am roped into the series. |
| [01:55:37] | sphery: | I'll admit I was very skeptical, but what's her name has been a good fit |
| [01:55:43] | Twiggy2cents: | I dont want super natural to end though. This episode looks good. |
| [01:55:52] | sphery: | (not-evil semi-Luthor girl) |
| [01:55:59] | sphery: | heh, yeah |
| [01:56:12] | sphery: | I'm still hearing good things about supernatural and renewal |
| [01:56:23] | sphery: | basically that it's all done except the announcement |
| [01:56:38] | wagnerrp: | [R]: nothing? |
| [01:56:41] | Twiggy2cents: | man I have always remembered her name... Untill you cant and now its gone |
| [01:56:54] | [R]: | wagnerrp: did someone say somethign? i havent been following |
| [01:57:09] | wagnerrp: | talk of 'bones' and 'backdoors' |
| [01:57:14] | sphery: | heh, it seems I opened a door |
| [01:57:16] | [R]: | oh, haha |
| [01:57:16] | sphery: | 2 maybe |
| [01:57:28] | Twiggy2cents: | Tess mercer |
| [01:57:28] | sphery: | that + good fit |
| [01:57:32] | sphery: | ah, yeah, Tess |
| [01:57:35] | Twiggy2cents: | I had to look it up though |
| [01:57:42] | sphery: | I was totally blanking |
| [01:58:02] | Twiggy2cents: | I was thinking temperance :) |
| [01:58:26] | sphery: | heh, your Bones neurons are shorting your Smallville neurons |
| [01:58:41] | sphery: | I always want to call her Cassidy because she looks like a Cassidy |
| [01:58:53] | sphery: | (which, I suppose, is a good thing for her) |
| [01:59:06] | Twiggy2cents: | Why? You have a thing for Cassidy's? |
| [01:59:17] | sphery: | heh, no--it's the actress's name |
| [01:59:22] | Twiggy2cents: | Lol |
| [01:59:24] | sphery: | Cassidy Freeman |
| [01:59:40] | sphery: | for some reason that name is more memorable to me |
| [02:00:01] | sphery: | Maybe if I start calling her "Lutessa Lena Luthor Mercer", I'll remember |
| [02:00:16] | Twiggy2cents: | How can you watch an episode and chat in here then retain the episode? |
| [02:00:26] | sphery: | this is what pause is for |
| [02:00:53] | Twiggy2cents: | Ohh. So you pause a good show to come in here to chat about it? |
| [02:01:03] | sphery: | I completely agree about the whole, "you enjoy the show more with commercials," study--I just make sure that those commercials aren't advertisements for me |
| [02:01:18] | sphery: | heh, I had to know what was going on--it was suspiciously different |
| [02:02:04] | Twiggy2cents: | I like commercials just for movie and show trailers. And some other things, but I agree with you. |
| [02:02:18] | sphery: | wagnerrp: btw, not everyone in FL is like those 3 |
| [02:02:55] | Twiggy2cents: | lol A old football player/actor, a brain damaged guy, and a english chick? |
| [02:03:18] | sphery: | heh |
| [02:05:24] | wagnerrp: | this sounds more like the end of ace ventura |
| [02:05:33] | wagnerrp: | ('cept courtney cox isnt english) |
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| [02:51:13] | tim__: | Hello! |
| [02:52:30] | sphery: | hello |
| [02:52:57] | tim__: | Hey sphery i am so excited to set up my myth tv center haha |
| [02:53:05] | tim__: | just waiting for my firewire pci card |
| [02:53:11] | tim__: | ;_; |
| [02:53:24] | sphery: | heh, it's great once you get it set up |
| [02:53:43] | tim__: | yeah idk i love setting up this stuff, and its a shame I didnt hear about this years ago |
| [02:53:56] | tim__: | then again I just recently switched to an opensource life |
| [02:54:09] | sphery: | cool, welcome to the life |
| [02:54:31] | tim__: | thanks XD so how many tvs do you have set up with myth |
| [02:55:05] | sphery: | I just have one--only one viewer to be concerned with, so no real need for more |
| [02:55:14] | sphery: | been thinking of setting one up in the kitchen, though |
| [02:55:24] | tim__: | yeah I plan on setting up about 5 |
| [02:55:32] | tim__: | getting the first one all perfected |
| [02:55:41] | sphery: | definitely the best plan |
| [02:55:58] | tim__: | it all started because I had this little acer r1600 laying around |
| [02:56:05] | tim__: | and he had nothing to do! |
| [02:56:44] | sphery: | when I first set up, I set up a system, figured out what hardware I needed (and what I needed to not have) and then replaced all the hardware to get the right stuff |
| [02:56:57] | tim__: | oh awesome |
| [02:56:59] | sphery: | heh, I won't mention my feelings on atom |
| [02:57:08] | sphery: | at least it's an ion one, though |
| [02:57:16] | tim__: | yeah, definetly going with the ion |
| [02:57:20] | tim__: | 16gb solid state drive |
| [02:57:36] | tim__: | I had an ati x600 back in the day and it melted |
| [02:57:40] | tim__: | so made me scared of ATI |
| [02:58:41] | tim__: | going to try to construct a mounting system to attach to the back of the wall mount on my sony google tv |
| [03:01:29] | wagnerrp: | s/i wont mention my feelings/im going to say the atom sucks balls by specifically stating im not going to say the atom sucks balls/ |
| [03:02:00] | tim__: | well it is pretty inexpensive |
| [03:02:07] | tim__: | do you think it will suffice as a decent front end? |
| [03:02:18] | wagnerrp: | for its capability, its pretty expensive |
| [03:02:23] | sphery: | So, for the new Green Lantern movie--whose "special preview" is on during tonight's Fringe--I'm wondering what they mean when they say, "At the edge of space." I just hope they don't start the movie with that, or I'll spend the whole movie thinking about which "edge" they're talking about. |
| [03:03:01] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, sometimes I forget that commenting about not commenting is commenting |
| [03:03:18] | sphery: | some people are happy with atom |
| [03:03:26] | wagnerrp: | actually, its at the other edge of space, you know the one with a restaurant? |
| [03:03:37] | wagnerrp: | no, no one is happy with an atom |
| [03:03:45] | sphery: | I'd say to really understand MythTV, you'll want a good processor for your master backend and MySQL system, and for at least one of you 5 frontend systems |
| [03:03:46] | wagnerrp: | theyre happy with the 9400M or GT218M |
| [03:03:54] | wagnerrp: | and are just getting the atom as part of the package |
| [03:04:09] | sphery: | then you'll likely realize that MythTV with Atom is not MythTV, and decide to upgrade the rest :) |
| [03:04:16] | tim__: | sphery, my front end is using a OC'd Core 2 Duo |
| [03:04:19] | sphery: | wagnerrp: and, yeah, I stand corrected--they like the nvidia |
| [03:04:19] | tim__: | e 6600 |
| [03:04:21] | tim__: | had it lying around |
| [03:04:32] | wagnerrp: | for a dedicated frontend, its ok |
| [03:04:37] | sphery: | an e6600 isn't bad |
| [03:04:39] | tim__: | er my backend |
| [03:04:40] | tim__: | sorry |
| [03:04:47] | sphery: | plenty for a backend |
| [03:05:07] | sphery: | should be good for US HDTV in MPEG-2 |
| [03:05:23] | sphery: | (if you use it as a frontend--for a backend, it should be good for whatever) |
| [03:05:42] | tim__: | I will rpobobly put mysql database on a SSD drive |
| [03:05:42] | sphery: | much better plan than using atom for a backend |
| [03:05:52] | tim__: | oh atoms will only be for front ends |
| [03:06:22] | tim__: | found a couple r1600 on craigslist for 140$ each |
| [03:06:29] | sphery: | IMHO, the money an SSD would cost would be better spent on processor and RAM :) |
| [03:06:51] | sphery: | but there are quite a few people moving their db's to ssds |
| [03:06:52] | [R]: | or you could just get a better processor, more ram, AND an ssd |
| [03:07:00] | tim__: | haha the SSD is recycled |
| [03:07:04] | tim__: | from my gaming computer |
| [03:07:07] | tim__: | I gave up gaming |
| [03:07:23] | tim__: | although i shoudl probobly just sell it |
| [03:07:31] | sphery: | ah, if that's the case, then the money doesn't come into play so much |
| [03:08:27] | tim__: | I am in the process of making a budget calculating yearly costs of fios DVR rentals/HD Receiver rentals and power consumption of said devices |
| [03:08:51] | tim__: | then determining how long it will take to pay off the hardware im going to purchase |
| [03:08:59] | tim__: | extra hardware that is |
| [03:09:42] | tim__: | What hardware do you use sphery for your system |
| [03:10:43] | sphery: | I have Athlon II 240/250/255 systems (for 2 dedicated backends and 1 dedicated frontend) |
| [03:11:13] | wagnerrp: | what happened to your 5050e? |
| [03:11:26] | sphery: | those are in the 2.8 – 3.1GHz range dual core AMDs |
| [03:11:43] | sphery: | I used the 5050e in this system |
| [03:11:56] | tim__: | ah they have low power consumption right? (from what i remember) |
| [03:12:04] | tim__: | or is that the 5050 |
| [03:12:17] | tim__: | its been forever since I built an amd system |
| [03:12:17] | sphery: | in reality, any Core i3/i5 or Athlon II is pretty good at power consumption at idle |
| [03:12:32] | sphery: | they have the idle power savings features that Intel ripped out when they were making Atom |
| [03:12:42] | tim__: | oh so thats why the hate for the atom |
| [03:12:47] | sphery: | tim__: a good read: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/25w-performance-pc,2551.html |
| [03:12:56] | tim__: | good to know, power consumption is a big thing for me |
| [03:12:58] | tim__: | oh thanks sphery |
| [03:13:19] | sphery: | atom is pretty much the same power usage whether idling or at load--I like to call it a "power-constrained CPU" vs a "power-efficient CPU" |
| [03:13:56] | sphery: | and, really, in an Atom system, they have the Atom power usage very low at all times, but the rest of the system is much higher (so, even with a 7W proc, you get 30–40W system power draw) |
| [03:14:41] | sphery: | do even if they halve the power usage of the Atom in future generations, they're leaving the other 75% of the problem untouched |
| [03:14:45] | sphery: | er, so |
| [03:14:47] | mycoDA: | why is power consumption a huge thing for you tim__ |
| [03:15:03] | wagnerrp: | yeah, just turn your frontends off when not in use |
| [03:15:18] | sphery: | heh, and that's another good point... 1W usage 24/7/52 is about $1 |
| [03:15:24] | mycoDA: | sphery – is why AMD Fuzion look sto be rather awesome |
| [03:15:27] | sphery: | per year |
| [03:15:44] | sphery: | and turning off your systems for 18/24 of the day is a /huge/ savings |
| [03:15:47] | tim__: | I just like to save as much power as possible, IDK mostly environment thing i guess |
| [03:15:49] | tim__: | doing what i can |
| [03:15:50] | tim__: | haha |
| [03:16:04] | mycoDA: | exactly sphery – even my athlon64 is only costing maybe $10 a quarter at most |
| [03:16:21] | sphery: | mycoDA: yeah, Fusion is nice, but unfortunately won't be much help for us--it's not NVIDIA graphics (so we can't use NVIDIA's drivers and VDPAU) |
| [03:16:28] | mycoDA: | tim__: turninng off 2 compact fluros is gonna make at least as much diff |
| [03:16:38] | mycoDA: | they have pcie sphery |
| [03:16:57] | sphery: | the desktop Fusion will be more interesting to me--would make for good dedicated backends--and still has good speeds |
| [03:17:06] | mycoDA: | g218 + FUSION is pretty epic power still |
| [03:17:08] | sphery: | the 1.6GHz ones that are out, now, aren't so useful |
| [03:17:32] | sphery: | yeah, just saying that you won't get the A in APU |
| [03:17:41] | mycoDA: | u mean the coming bobcat cores, rather than fusion? |
| [03:17:44] | sphery: | so Fusion become just a "PU" choice for us :) |
| [03:17:53] | mycoDA: | or bulldozer? |
| [03:18:05] | mycoDA: | bulldozer looks to be freakin sweet |
| [03:18:07] | sphery: | yeah, bobcat--not server stuff |
| [03:18:17] | mycoDA: | bulldozer is desktop too |
| [03:18:26] | wagnerrp: | bulldozer would be fine for mythtv, but bulldozer is looking at 2.5GHz+ |
| [03:18:35] | mycoDA: | 2 ALU + 1FPU in a module |
| [03:18:46] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to the 1.5GHz systems currently released, that are insufficient for video decoding |
| [03:18:54] | mycoDA: | they have always made e versions of their desktop chips |
| [03:19:18] | sphery: | ah, thought bulldozer was just server stuff |
| [03:19:21] | mycoDA: | so there will likely be 2GHz bulldozers with low power |
| [03:19:40] | mycoDA: | nah, high end and enthusiast multi core desktop too |
| [03:19:53] | sphery: | anyway, the current stuff--the 5W, 9W, 18W stuff--is too slow to interest me that much |
| [03:20:03] | sphery: | think the fastest is only 1.6GHz |
| [03:20:10] | mycoDA: | i know what you mean |
| [03:20:26] | sphery: | the Llano stuff (at 25–100W) is more interesting |
| [03:20:41] | sphery: | basically becomes the next-gen for Athlon II |
| [03:20:47] | wagnerrp: | now that 1.6GHz fusion is immensely more powerful than a similarly clocked atom |
| [03:21:26] | wagnerrp: | its just still not enough |
| [03:21:27] | mycoDA: | yep |
| [03:21:30] | mycoDA: | rly? |
| [03:21:44] | sphery: | I will say that I like the current stuff much better than Atom--just lose all the benefit of integrated GPU (meaning adding to the power requirements with an external PCIe card, meaning why not get a faster system like an Ath II or Core i) |
| [03:22:11] | tim__: | hmm fusion is a little cheaper also |
| [03:22:11] | sphery: | and since you can get great idle power usage from Ath II/Core i... |
| [03:22:25] | sphery: | tim__: but you won't have VDPAU |
| [03:22:34] | mycoDA: | given ion has the external gpu and atom uses more power than fusion |
| [03:22:37] | tim__: | ah true sphery didnt think of that |
| [03:22:39] | sphery: | you'd need a discrete graphics card with nvidia |
| [03:22:52] | mycoDA: | g218 is only $30 |
| [03:23:03] | mycoDA: | same chip as on ion2 |
| [03:23:04] | sphery: | is that the 18W one? |
| [03:23:09] | mycoDA: | gt210 |
| [03:23:14] | sphery: | oh, nvidia |
| [03:23:27] | sphery: | sorry--was thining you were talking about AMD G-series Fusion procs |
| [03:23:30] | wagnerrp: | you can buy discrete versions of the chip in the ION2? |
| [03:25:23] | tim__: | Well I have to be heading to bed, I will be sure to visit you guys throughout my builds |
| [03:25:26] | tim__: | and let you know :) |
| [03:25:30] | sphery: | good luck |
| [03:25:42] | tim__: | thanks for all the assistance! |
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| [03:26:42] | sphery: | when I was reading that, I almost thought we had been talking to a dolphin |
| [03:27:06] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [03:27:11] | sphery: | thanks for all the fish |
| [03:27:12] | sphery: | nvm |
| [03:27:17] | sphery: | it's a stretch |
| [03:27:19] | mycoDA: | 12" Netbook ION The 12" version features all 16 cores of the GT218 chip and is clocked at 475Â MHz, with a power consumption of 12 Watt. The performance should be above the old ION platform. |
| [03:27:55] | mycoDA: | wikipedias take |
| [03:28:07] | mycoDA: | find plenty of other refs to g218 ion |
| [03:28:16] | mycoDA: | g218 is gt210 |
| [03:28:48] | wagnerrp: | no, the desktop GT210, and the gt218m in the ION2, are two completely different chips |
| [03:31:23] | mycoDA: | odd that they are both gt218 |
| [03:31:48] | wagnerrp: | they have the same core layout, but one is a mobile version |
| [03:31:56] | wagnerrp: | different power consumption, different clock rate |
| [03:32:34] | mycoDA: | so, just underclocked then – that isnt a different core |
| [03:33:03] | mycoDA: | does that mean my 9600GT is a different card now i have clocked it to 50%? |
| [03:33:53] | mycoDA: | dame cores, same process, same codename, same die size, same chip |
| [03:33:56] | wagnerrp: | according to wikipedia, the gt218m is faster in all aspects than the gt218, and uses around half the power |
| [03:34:40] | wagnerrp: | higher core clock, higher shader clock, significantly higher memory clock |
| [03:35:06] | mycoDA: | link? |
| [03:35:30] | wagnerrp: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_200_Series |
| [03:35:40] | mycoDA: | tdp != pwer use |
| [03:36:08] | mycoDA: | hence intel core2 chips with the same tdp as athlon 64 use a lot les power |
| [03:36:27] | mycoDA: | tdp is a stat for the chip package and card reference design |
| [03:36:34] | mycoDA: | you know that |
| [03:40:01] | mycoDA: | that said, there is a good chance that like e series cpus they are cherry picked from the process for performance at lower voltage |
| [03:40:15] | mycoDA: | but they are the same chip |
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| [04:05:08] | wagnerrp: | sphery: was that a big lebowski reference? |
| [04:06:04] | sphery: | which? the fish thing? |
| [04:06:30] | sphery: | that was a HGTTG ref |
| [04:06:59] | wagnerrp: | no, donnie at the bowling alley |
| [04:07:05] | sphery: | oh |
| [04:07:50] | sphery: | the some days you got it one? |
| [04:07:59] | sphery: | I never saw The Big Lebowski |
| [04:08:29] | wagnerrp: | donni is steve buscemi |
| [04:10:21] | sphery: | the guy in Fringe named Donnie does use a Steve Buscemi-like demeanor and voice |
| [04:30:22] | sphery: | wagnerrp: the captions even say, "(Bolivia)" when she speaks and is off screen |
| [04:32:04] | ** wagnerrp wishes flood warnings were more localized ** | |
| [04:32:29] | wagnerrp: | if my street ever floods, its the end of the world |
| [04:33:12] | [R]: | lol |
| [04:34:00] | ** wagnerrp is suddenly in the mood for some disaster porn ** | |
| [04:34:25] | [R]: | wtf |
| [04:34:48] | sphery: | and lab-guy's hand is backwards on the scanner |
| [04:34:54] | mycoDA: | dunno if its a good thing or not, our street runs parallel to a storm drain |
| [04:35:49] | wagnerrp: | [R]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0 |
| [04:36:35] | ** mycoDA is on a ska trip ** | |
| [04:37:56] | [R]: | w t f |
| [04:37:56] | wagnerrp: | im seriously considering picking up that movie, and then just fast forwarding through any bits with talking |
| [04:39:56] | ** wagnerrp thought people went on ski trips ** | |
| [04:41:23] | sphery: | heh, "copiedright MMIX" |
| [04:41:30] | sphery: | that was definitely a bad movie |
| [04:41:50] | sphery: | I watched another 2012 movie and it may have been worse |
| [04:41:56] | wagnerrp: | but thats a fantastic trailer |
| [04:42:21] | wagnerrp: | i would pay to see that movie |
| [04:42:28] | sphery: | 2012 Doomsday... didn't have the effects, and the story was equally ludicrous |
| [04:42:38] | sphery: | yeah, the trailer was good |
| [04:42:47] | wagnerrp: | get rid of the plot, no back story |
| [04:43:19] | wagnerrp: | just cut together the 50 or so minutes of cinematic terrestrial destruction |
| [04:44:18] | wagnerrp: | and release it to the theater |
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| [08:31:53] | wagnerrp: | ive got some screwed up reference counter |
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| [16:23:00] | KaZeR: | re |
| [16:23:23] | wagnerrp: | re? |
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| [18:25:26] | ** DanC struggles to get mythexport to do anything, let alone export an iTunes-happy RSS feed ** | |
| [18:25:52] | wagnerrp: | might want to try in #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [18:26:21] | DanC: | what gave me away as an ubuntu user? or is that channel just more active? |
| [18:26:38] | wagnerrp: | the fact that mythexport only exists on mythbuntu |
| [18:31:33] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yeah, I hope to merge that fairly soon. Still got a few things to tidy up :) |
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| [19:25:46] | balor: | How do I increase the network buffer for a remote frontend? My google-foo is failing me. |
| [19:26:22] | balor: | I just want it to buffer, say 30 seconds, before playing |
| [19:26:36] | balor: | so it can get over any temporary wifi glitches |
| [19:26:46] | wagnerrp: | you cannot, run wires |
| [19:27:18] | sid3windr: | microwave is not ready in 30 seconds anyway |
| [19:27:20] | sid3windr: | :p |
| [19:27:45] | balor: | wagnerrp, ok, thanks. |
| [19:28:21] | wagnerrp: | its hard coded, mythtv expects to be run on reliable networks |
| [19:28:37] | balor: | hmm....HD over wifi is choppy |
| [19:28:48] | ** balor thinks wired thoughts ** | |
| [19:28:49] | wagnerrp: | 802.11g? |
| [19:29:17] | balor: | It's 54 Mb/s so I think that's g. |
| [19:29:25] | balor: | It's not n anyway. |
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| [19:29:36] | wagnerrp: | its 54mbps bit throughput under the best conditions |
| [19:29:50] | wagnerrp: | the bitrate is not equivalent to the data rate |
| [19:30:11] | balor: | yup |
| [19:30:18] | wagnerrp: | there is a significant amount of overhead from error correction and retransmission |
| [19:30:27] | ** balor goes to watch choppy HD (thanks for the help) ** | |
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| [19:30:34] | wagnerrp: | so under the best conditions, you cant expect more than low 20mbps over 802.11h |
| [19:31:18] | [R]: | i top out at 16 on g |
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| [19:51:04] | NewBuntu81: | Is anyone using an hvr-950q or hvr-850 with fedora 14? |
| [19:51:28] | NewBuntu81: | I got my hvr-2250 to work great, now working on my 950q and 850. |
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| [20:48:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | NewBuntu81: Not me, but I have used a HVR-950 (non-q model) with Linux a few years ago – I think you just need the firmware nowadays...) |
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| [21:38:46] | singlegirlarity: | how do I change the "Channel Change Timeout"? |
| [21:39:14] | wagnerrp: | should be in the card setup in mythtv-setup |
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| [21:45:30] | singlegirlarity: | wagnerrp, I'm running .23...it's not there, is there any other place it might be? |
| [21:45:41] | singlegirlarity: | also, I don't know if .23 is supported and if its not, sorry for bugging ya'll |
| [21:47:58] | [R]: | tons of stuff has beenn fixed in 24 |
| [21:48:00] | [R]: | you should update |
| [21:48:04] | [R]: | to 24-fixes |
| [21:48:23] | singlegirlarity: | because I"m using linuxmce, I'm out of luck for right now |
| [21:49:19] | wagnerrp: | the whole tuning timeout was rewritten for 0.24 |
| [21:49:22] | singlegirlarity: | they're a step behind, because of compatibility issues...still working on an upgrade to ubuntu 10.04 |
| [21:49:37] | singlegirlarity: | ah it was, okay....so it's deinite...thank you wagnerrp , that answers that |
| [21:50:41] | wagnerrp: | the tuning timeouts should still be configurable in mythtv-setup |
| [21:50:53] | wagnerrp: | might be in the advanced options, i dont remember exactly where |
| [21:51:13] | wagnerrp: | by timeouts, you mean time given for a lock on a digital channel? |
| [21:52:42] | singlegirlarity: | yes |
| [21:52:58] | singlegirlarity: | there's advanced options? |
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| [23:06:38] | NewBuntu81: | I'm adding a tuner to a secondary backend. Would the logs for errors be on that local secondary box, or on the primary backend? |
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| [23:34:41] | [R]: | NewBuntu81: what errors |
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| [23:59:30] | sphery: | NewBuntu81: on the remote backend in its log mythbackend log file |
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