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| [00:42:13] | naf: | anybody else ever had a problem where the mythshutdown called from mythwelcome just hangs? |
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| [00:46:21] | wagnerrp: | we really need to get rid of mythshutdown... |
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| [00:50:57] | wagnerrp: | s/mythshutdown/mythwelcome/ |
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| [00:53:45] | naf: | there it does again... |
| [00:53:57] | naf: | $ ps -ef | egrep 'mythwelcome|mythshutdown' |
| [00:54:07] | naf: | mythtv 4091 14580 0 19:47 pts/0 00:00:01 mythwelcome |
| [00:54:14] | naf: | mythtv 4718 4091 0 19:50 pts/0 00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/mythshutdown --status 0 |
| [00:54:23] | naf: | mythtv 4726 4718 0 19:50 pts/0 00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/mythshutdown --status 0 |
| [00:54:32] | naf: | wtf? |
| [00:55:00] | wagnerrp: | dont know, never used either |
| [00:55:27] | wagnerrp: | mythwelcome should not be calling mythshutdown |
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| [01:02:10] | sphery: | doesn't mythwelcome call mythshutdown when it decides the computer can shutdown |
| [01:02:24] | sphery: | and then mythshutdown does whatever is required to shut down |
| [01:02:25] | wagnerrp: | mythwelcome shouldnt be deciding anything |
| [01:02:39] | sphery: | (and/or mythshutdown reports whether to shut down) |
| [01:02:49] | sphery: | if you mean how it /should/ be designed, I agree |
| [01:03:07] | wagnerrp: | the only reason one should be using mythwelcome is to disconnect from the backend and release the shutdown lock |
| [01:03:13] | sphery: | but since it was designed as an external thing--that made guesses because mythbackend doesn't know whether things should shut down, then yeah |
| [01:04:03] | wagnerrp: | if you are running a backend, then the backend should be told when to shut down by the master, or it should decide on its own if it is the master |
| [01:04:15] | sphery: | but it doesn't |
| [01:04:18] | wagnerrp: | if you are not running a backend, then you shouldnt be bothering with mythwelcome either |
| [01:04:21] | sphery: | because mythbackend was never written to decide |
| [01:04:39] | sphery: | master backend shuts down remote backends |
| [01:04:41] | wagnerrp: | no, its told by the master |
| [01:04:51] | sphery: | but needs mythshutdown to shut down itself |
| [01:04:55] | sphery: | and set wakeup time and ... |
| [01:05:14] | naf: | it appears mythwelcome is just calling mythhshutdown --status to update its display with the info |
| [01:05:21] | sphery: | the 2 implementations of shut down are separate and very different |
| [01:08:42] | sphery: | actually, I don't know for sure who does what in the old shutdown stuff |
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| [01:09:31] | sphery: | but, yeah, would love to integrate the 2 separate implementations and improve them (and have the master backend actually track what's happening where) |
| [01:10:22] | wagnerrp: | well at least in my concept of what mythwelcome is doing, it could be replaced by a timer and a protocol call |
| [01:10:41] | wagnerrp: | a timer to count down when sitting idle in the main menu |
| [01:10:54] | wagnerrp: | and a protocol call to flip between Monitor and Playback |
| [01:11:08] | wagnerrp: | let the backend trigger a shutdown while the frontend is still active |
| [01:11:39] | wagnerrp: | would allow a FRONTEND_IDLE and FRONTEND_NOT_IDLE system event as well |
| [01:11:45] | wagnerrp: | i know people have been asking for that one |
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| [01:12:54] | wagnerrp: | maybe have two stages for the timer, 20 minutes to back out to the main menu if elsewhere outside of playback, and another 5 to allow a shutdown |
| [01:17:05] | naf: | so any clues on something to try to figure out why mythshutdown hangs just when checking status? |
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| [01:21:40] | sphery: | naf: we'd actually need a backtrace to debug a hang: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
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| [01:31:22] | naf: | so since mythshutdown is hanging when getting myth_system'd in mythwelcome, that means I need to change the (hardcoded) mythshutdown command to gdb instead? |
| [01:37:45] | sphery: | no, just install the debugging symbols, then connect to the hung process |
| [01:38:07] | sphery: | http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/gdb-5.1.1/ . . . /gdb_22.html |
| [01:38:41] | sphery: | http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gnat_ugn_unw/At . . . Process.html |
| [01:38:55] | sphery: | (but without the break and cont stuff) |
| [01:39:51] | sphery: | really, your best bet, though, would be something like: gdb mythshutdown <pid> |
| [01:39:59] | sphery: | replace pid with the appropriate pid |
| [01:40:08] | sphery: | actually, replace all of <pid> |
| [01:40:40] | sphery: | then just do the: thread apply all bt full |
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| [02:34:35] | wagnerrp: | so Breaking In... dont expect that to make it through 6 episodes |
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| [02:37:46] | sphery: | :( |
| [02:38:05] | sphery: | I like Brett Harrison |
| [02:38:22] | sphery: | seems all his shows get cancelled early... The Loop, Reaper, now this |
| [02:38:53] | wagnerrp: | watched a couple episodes of reaper, never heard of the loop |
| [02:39:17] | sphery: | both were good |
| [02:39:35] | wagnerrp: | i never really got into reaper |
| [02:40:12] | sphery: | I loved Reaper... Between Bret Harrison and Tyler Labine, it was very funny |
| [02:40:21] | sphery: | oh, and Ray Wise... great Devil |
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| [02:41:44] | sphery: | seems that if it's scripted tv, it has to be a medical or crime drama to survive, anymore |
| [02:42:29] | sphery: | probably helps that most of those are procedural dramas, too |
| [02:42:32] | wagnerrp: | they were just trying too hard |
| [02:43:37] | wagnerrp: | too many twists, and stupid twists |
| [02:44:21] | wagnerrp: | and not oceans 11 cute twists, but more m night shamamamalan 'youre a dunce' twists |
| [02:45:05] | sphery: | the overarching story was much better than the episodic stories |
| [02:45:25] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [02:45:26] | sphery: | but they had problems with lack of support and funding, making it hard to do the story right |
| [02:45:46] | wagnerrp: | with reaper? im talking about breaking in |
| [02:45:57] | wagnerrp: | i just found it more annoying than anything else |
| [02:45:58] | sphery: | ohhh |
| [02:46:21] | sphery: | that explains the Oceans comment |
| [02:47:27] | Shadow__X: | sphery: i liked reaper as well |
| [02:48:16] | sphery: | will admit that it's no Supernatural, though :) |
| [02:48:56] | jpabq: | Some of my recording over the last few weeks don't *seem* to have audio. At least playing them in mythfrontend, all I get is video. However, if I play them with mplayer, the audio is there. Very odd. |
| [02:49:52] | [R]: | jpabq: what is your recording source? |
| [02:50:20] | jpabq: | HD-PVR is the source of the problem. I don't seem to have that problem with my HDhomerun recordings. |
| [02:50:36] | [R]: | yeah, i see the same thing |
| [02:50:41] | [R]: | next time you record and/or play one check the logs |
| [02:50:44] | [R]: | it'll be full of errors |
| [02:52:27] | sphery: | not just an audio channel error? using + to switch channels (or menu) doesn't help? |
| [02:52:54] | jpabq: | menu does not list any alternate audio tracks, but I will go try hitting + |
| [02:53:43] | sphery: | then it's probably not audio channel issue |
| [02:53:44] | wagnerrp: | is the HDPVR capable of recording multiple audio tracks? |
| [02:53:53] | wagnerrp: | is spdif even capable of transmitting multiple audio tracks? |
| [02:53:59] | jpabq: | + shows "1 undertermined AC3 5.1" as the only audio track. |
| [02:54:12] | sphery: | no, but we are capable of mis-detecting channels :) |
| [02:54:15] | jpabq: | wagnerrp, the HD-PVR does not. |
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| [02:55:07] | jpabq: | I just fine it odd the mplayer plays audio fine. Means the information is there... The Myth logs say it is decoding AC3 5.1, but I don't get any sound. |
| [02:55:30] | [R]: | sphery: i get it about every other week or so |
| [02:55:51] | [R]: | jpabq: i get a boatload of errors |
| [02:56:29] | jpabq: | Hmmm... I think it is a "passthrough" problem. If I use mythavtest on my backend which is hooked up to the speakers via analog, *then* I get audio. |
| [02:57:07] | jpabq: | [R], I get some, but nothing that looks like it would result in video but not audio. |
| [02:57:20] | wagnerrp: | sphery: did you see the news about the C64 remake... with an ION? |
| [02:58:00] | [R]: | jpabq: i did try mythtranscode and i THOUGHT it was going to mp3... and i still had no audio in myth |
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| [02:59:22] | Myles: | 8heello all |
| [03:00:30] | sphery: | wagnerrp: had been hearing about it for months... never heard that it's ION, though |
| [03:00:42] | sphery: | guess they wanted similar computer power? |
| [03:00:56] | Myles: | I just added new channels to my sat subscription, can I add them to myth w/o re-doing the whole lineup and channel names? |
| [03:01:01] | wagnerrp: | heh, they also have a core2-based one, but theyre advertising the 'dual processor atom' |
| [03:01:34] | sphery: | Myles: what listings source? |
| [03:01:43] | Myles: | SD |
| [03:01:54] | sphery: | you'll want to use mythfilldatabase --only-update-channels |
| [03:01:57] | wagnerrp: | ive been breaking peoples dreams all day of using it for a HTPC, by reminding them that they will have to have a/v/power cables tracked across their living room floor |
| [03:02:01] | sphery: | do /not/ use --do-channel-updates |
| [03:02:34] | sphery: | might need --do-not-filter-new-channels , too |
| [03:02:48] | sphery: | try without, then if it doesn't add new channels, re-run with |
| [03:03:04] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh |
| [03:05:07] | jpabq: | [R], false alarm tonight --- Turned out I was not getting audio from any show, even from the HDhomerun. Power-cycled my pre-amp, and all is well. Might explain why I didn't really have any errors in the log tonight ;-) |
| [03:05:49] | Myles: | what does do not filter do |
| [03:05:53] | Myles: | ? |
| [03:06:36] | [R]: | i dunno... anytime i have new channels in schedules direct and i run mythfill like normal, it picks them up |
| [03:06:58] | jpabq: | filter only works on digital (over the air) sources. |
| [03:07:16] | jpabq: | in mythfilldatabase |
| [03:07:24] | Myles: | oh so i wont need it |
| [03:10:25] | wagnerrp: | sphery: why is it optional to run the scheduler in the backend? |
| [03:10:38] | wagnerrp: | i mean what use would there ever be to not run the scheduler? |
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| [03:11:08] | wagnerrp: | same with housekeeper and autoexpirer |
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| [03:11:27] | wagnerrp: | i cant imagine they would be of any use outside debugging |
| [03:13:19] | sphery: | wagnerrp: remote backends |
| [03:13:46] | wagnerrp: | sure, but thats the backend deciding on its own not to run that stuff |
| [03:13:52] | wagnerrp: | im talking about the command line flags |
| [03:13:54] | sphery: | ah, you mean command-line args |
| [03:13:59] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, the scheduler always runs, --nosched just disables it firing off new recordings. |
| [03:14:20] | Captain_Murdoch: | on the MBE that is. |
| [03:14:30] | Myles: | thx sphery |
| [03:14:32] | Myles: | :D |
| [03:14:34] | sphery: | I use --nosched and --noautoexpire on my dev system so it doesn't make new (partial) recordings to delete nor delete my existing "imported" recordings |
| [03:15:00] | sphery: | we actually have a no housekeeper arg? |
| [03:15:05] | sphery: | that one doesn't make a lot of sense to me |
| [03:15:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | --nosched is always used on my dev backend because i don't want my dev backend recording stuff all the time while I am developing. my dev DB is a copy of my production DB kept up to date using either backup and restore scripts or via a custom script I have which keeps the program and recorded* tables in sync. |
| [03:15:27] | wagnerrp: | theres a 'cmdline.IsHouseKeeperEnabled()' |
| [03:15:35] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, because I don't want my dev box running mythfilldatabase all the time when I start up my dev MBE. |
| [03:15:50] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: ahhh... I just disabled mfdb in my dev box :) |
| [03:16:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | sometimes I do want it to run though, so I just startup without --nohousekeeper. |
| [03:16:12] | sphery: | but, yeah, all are really meant for dev use |
| [03:16:33] | sphery: | though we have at times told users they could run mythbackend --nosched while they waited for the cable guy to arrive after they moved |
| [03:16:43] | sphery: | (so they can watch old recordings on mythfrontend) |
| [03:18:03] | sphery: | if someone is concerned about users using them when they shouldn't, I wouldn't be terribly disappointed if another mechanism were chosen to disable the functionality |
| [03:19:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | my dev MBE normally runs with --nosched --nohousekeeper --nojobqueue --noautoexpire |
| [03:19:36] | sphery: | I just do --nosched --noautoexpire, and dono't trigger any jobs and have mfdb runs disabled :) |
| [03:21:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'd be fine with them being -O undocumented settings or getenv() checks. the --nosched is the primary one of use to users. |
| [03:22:19] | sphery: | yeah... I don't have any reason to believe they're being abused currently |
| [03:22:29] | sphery: | but I can live with changes if there's a reason for them |
| [03:22:48] | sphery: | (even if that reason is as simple as, "To simplify the --help output") |
| [03:22:54] | wagnerrp: | no need for change, just wondering why someone would want them disabled |
| [03:23:04] | sphery: | ahhh, cool |
| [03:24:00] | ** Captain_Murdoch is probably responsible for most or all of them I think. ** | |
| [03:24:20] | sphery: | well, they've been useful to me |
| [03:24:40] | sphery: | cleaning up partial recordings--let alone trying to debug stuff when recordings kick off--is challenging |
| [03:25:06] | sphery: | not even mentioning the fact that the dummy recorder now seems to copy the file at whatever speed the HDD can handle |
| [03:25:17] | sphery: | rather than rate-limiting it like before the recent changes were made |
| [03:25:18] | Captain_Murdoch: | --nosched actually used to disable the scheduler, but it was better to keep it running and just mark the recordings as offline. |
| [03:25:33] | sphery: | (i.e. was doing 6GB/min last time I tried it) |
| [03:25:46] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, yeah, dummy does that, file:/ is the one that throttles. |
| [03:25:50] | sphery: | yeah, I like the current approach |
| [03:26:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | I think daniel just had the dummy copy as fast as possible. |
| [03:26:06] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: I'm using file:/ ... whatever it's called |
| [03:26:13] | sphery: | I thought danielk's was the import recorder |
| [03:26:24] | sphery: | It was, specifically, the "merging" of them that caused the problem |
| [03:27:24] | sphery: | anyway, might be fixed--or might even be misconfiguration on my end, since I didn't reconfigure it after the change. Haven't tried it lately |
| [03:27:33] | Captain_Murdoch: | ah. I haven't tried it recently. does it still loop then? that could be a big issue. I used to test with smaller files and the file:// method would just loop over and over reading the same file, but at a normal pace. if it's unthrottled now, it could either run out of data if it stops or fill up the HD if it loops. |
| [03:27:48] | sphery: | (because if it still does the same, it's dangerous :) |
| [03:29:17] | sphery: | I couldn't run it long enough to looop |
| [03:29:47] | sphery: | I had it pointed at a 30-min file, and copying 6GB/min for 30min was bigger than the file system |
| [03:30:38] | sphery: | guess I could replace the file with a shorter one and see what happens |
| [03:31:06] | sphery: | just wasn't that interested in fixing it since there were a lot of changes made |
| [03:32:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | my dev MBE doesn't have tuners, it just uses the file:// ones. my dev SBE did have a tuner when it existed. |
| [03:33:11] | sphery: | yeah, I just have a file: one in my dev box |
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| [04:12:56] | sphery: | I'm sure I'll regret telling a user I'm not surprised he's not getting useful EIT data on a US cable TV line |
| [04:13:13] | sphery: | I'll be accused of trying to force a user to use Schedules Direct, again. |
| [04:14:06] | [R]: | i need to use The Twitter |
| [04:14:12] | [R]: | but i have nothing to say and i dont think anyone cares what i have to say |
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| [04:15:35] | wagnerrp: | wow... cable company actually does something positive and righteous for a change |
| [04:15:49] | sphery: | they don't call them wow for nothing? |
| [04:16:36] | ** wagnerrp bets no one will get that reference ** | |
| [04:18:14] | [R]: | sphery: i have one of those 'hdpvr recordings with no sound in myth'... is there antyhing i can do to debug it? |
| [04:18:38] | sphery: | [R]: I don't know my audio code |
| [04:18:52] | sphery: | maybe jya would have some suggestions (or be able to debug it with a sample)? |
| [04:19:06] | [R]: | ok, i'll save this recording and wait to talk to him |
| [04:19:17] | sphery: | might want to try playing it without passthrough, too |
| [04:19:43] | sphery: | and note that jya just committed some fix for passthrough not always working with certain configurations |
| [04:19:50] | sphery: | so make sure you're up to date |
| [04:20:02] | jya: | sphery: that was with CoreAudio (on mac) |
| [04:20:02] | [R]: | i did last night |
| [04:20:03] | sphery: | (don't know if it went into -fixes, too) |
| [04:20:11] | sphery: | ahhh, ok, so doesn't apply |
| [04:20:30] | sphery: | still, up to date is always a good first step :) |
| [04:20:34] | jya: | sphery: actually, I don't know how it ever worked before that :) been there for years |
| [04:21:01] | [R]: | ok, i belive i disabled passthrough |
| [04:21:03] | [R]: | still no audio |
| [04:21:18] | jya: | [R]: how do you install myth, what's your configuration? |
| [04:21:18] | [R]: | tons of "unknown audio decoding error" messages |
| [04:21:35] | jya: | [R]: well, that's your answer then... crappy source |
| [04:21:46] | [R]: | its hdpvr |
| [04:21:49] | [R]: | sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt |
| [04:21:52] | [R]: | and it plays fine on nonmyth |
| [04:21:52] | jya: | those messages are produced by ffmpeg |
| [04:22:09] | [R]: | anyway to fix the corrutpion? |
| [04:22:26] | mycoDA: | happens in mplayer using ffmpeg? or not? |
| [04:22:31] | jya: | [R]: could depends on the ffmpeg version they are using, or if they are using ffmpeg to do the decoding |
| [04:22:40] | [R]: | i tried vlc and it failed, i assume mplayer woudln't work eitehr |
| [04:22:42] | jya: | [R]: is it an AC3 digital stream? |
| [04:22:56] | [R]: | jya: yes, and it plays on one of my upnp streaming devices, so no ffmpeg |
| [04:23:03] | jya: | why do you say it play fines on non-myth then? |
| [04:23:04] | wagnerrp: | crap, i cant find the scene its in |
| [04:23:14] | sphery: | wagnerrp: which show? |
| [04:23:20] | sphery: | been trying to figure out the reference |
| [04:23:21] | wagnerrp: | movie |
| [04:23:22] | jya: | if it also fails with VLC or mplayer |
| [04:23:28] | [R]: | jya: it plays on my upnp streaming device |
| [04:23:30] | wagnerrp: | kellys heroes |
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| [04:23:49] | mycoDA: | lol |
| [04:23:50] | wagnerrp: | donald sutherland is a hippie tank commander in WW2 |
| [04:23:57] | [R]: | jya: just a point of refernece ot say the audio isn't totally corrupted beyond repair |
| [04:24:23] | jya: | [R]: if you have digital passthrough going, you don't have upmixer enabled, or softwqre volume control, nor resampling is done. Then there's no need for myth to decode the audio ; it leaves the job to your amp, which typically is what your upnp device would do |
| [04:24:42] | [R]: | well my upnp does decode the audio |
| [04:24:50] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Kelly's Heroes? Oddball: Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? |
| [04:24:55] | jya: | [R]: it doesn't do passthrough? |
| [04:24:55] | [R]: | its got composite with l/r stereo output |
| [04:25:10] | wagnerrp: | sphery: thats the quote, i just cant figure out where it is in the movie |
| [04:25:20] | sphery: | heh, never saw the movie |
| [04:25:29] | jya: | Well, try what I said above: enable passthrough, disable the upmixer, make sure volume control is disabled and that there's no resampling occurring. |
| [04:25:33] | wagnerrp: | righteous and hopeful... not positive and righteous, got it wrong |
| [04:25:36] | wagnerrp: | its a great movie |
| [04:25:54] | sphery: | I'll watch for it on this |
| [04:25:57] | sphery: | or ion |
| [04:26:07] | wagnerrp: | i doubt this would have it |
| [04:26:07] | [R]: | jya: i have dolby checked, speaker set to 5.1, upconvert disabled, and volume contorl unchecked |
| [04:26:11] | jya: | I found a *new* TV series last week, that I really enjoy so far: "day break".. Too bad it got canned |
| [04:26:14] | wagnerrp: | honestly, ive only ever seen it on tv once |
| [04:26:25] | wagnerrp: | jya: yeah, 13 episodes |
| [04:26:43] | jya: | wagnerrp: I'm up to episode 7... Getting hooked :) |
| [04:26:51] | wagnerrp: | i know the feeling |
| [04:26:58] | wagnerrp: | had it a couple years back when it aired over here |
| [04:27:04] | [R]: | jya: wheres resampling? |
| [04:27:17] | wagnerrp: | did i delete that one? |
| [04:27:21] | wagnerrp: | yeah, dont see it in my archive |
| [04:27:22] | mycoDA: | wouldnt dolby require decode? |
| [04:27:22] | jya: | [R]: In advanced audio setup, make sure the 48k resample is uncheck |
| [04:27:35] | [R]: | jya: it is, so it sound like everyhting is set up the way you said it should be |
| [04:27:40] | jya: | then it depends of your audio card. But if 44.1kHz or 48kHz content, it's unlikely it will be resampled |
| [04:28:06] | jya: | [R]: then post the output with -v audio |
| [04:28:07] | sphery: | wagnerrp: it is an MGM movie, so they /could/ show it on this |
| [04:28:18] | [R]: | jya: k, one sec |
| [04:28:30] | sphery: | jya: yeah, day break was good... |
| [04:29:09] | jya: | re: day break: I like that most of the time, they don't take the viewer for an idiot, re-explaining every single thing that just happened. |
| [04:29:23] | sphery: | I just started House last Monday, and thanks to an Orlando to LA flight and sitting around airports and hotels, I'm already on season 3 |
| [04:29:38] | jya: | I hate when they do that: so something happen, let's flash back to make sure everyone understood what just happen |
| [04:29:55] | jya: | sphery: you never watched House before? no kidding ? |
| [04:29:55] | sphery: | (was on episode 18/24 of season 2 when I returned) |
| [04:30:09] | wagnerrp: | ah, there it is... 1:37 in |
| [04:30:24] | sphery: | yeah, when it first aired, I had dish network and only 2 STBs and it was #3 priority, so I didn't watch it |
| [04:30:45] | sphery: | they started airing it in syndication from the start on MyTV, recently, so I started recording it from the start |
| [04:30:51] | sphery: | and I'm hooked |
| [04:32:01] | sphery: | er, 20/24... watched all of season 1 and all but 4 episodes of season 2 while traveling |
| [04:32:10] | jya: | sphery: It's pretty neat. After so many seasons, it gets a bit repetitive in the end I found.. And I really disliked one season where they eliminate contestants after another |
| [04:32:22] | [R]: | jya: http://pastebin.com/gchETa6f |
| [04:33:03] | sphery: | Heh, that's the one season I had any knowledge of... don't know any details, but a lot of people were talking about a "Thirteen" and some competition. |
| [04:33:04] | jya: | [R]: this is not digital AC3 |
| [04:33:06] | jya: | but stereo AAC |
| [04:33:51] | sphery: | made a /lot/ of the weekly good/bad posts on tv.com |
| [04:34:12] | jya: | sphery: the only good thing about that season is Thirteen :) she's very hot IMHO |
| [04:34:23] | wagnerrp: | yeah, thirteen was season 6? 5? |
| [04:34:25] | [R]: | jya: ok, so its the channel screwing up? is there anything i can do fix it? |
| [04:34:28] | sphery: | heh, I'm looking forward to finding out what it was all about |
| [04:34:39] | sphery: | and what "Thirteen" means |
| [04:34:54] | wagnerrp: | jya: not just your opinion... some magazine ranked her hotest in the world |
| [04:34:57] | jya: | [R]: it's AAC audio, you could try an older version of mythtv where you could compile using libfaad |
| [04:35:29] | wagnerrp: | they were joking about that in one of the episodes, foreman fired her, so house joked 'its not like you just fired the hottest girl in the world' |
| [04:35:33] | wagnerrp: | or something to that effect |
| [04:35:48] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:36:06] | [R]: | jya: if i reencoded the audio into ac3 with a userjob it would work? |
| [04:36:10] | jya: | [R]: that AAC goes from stereo, to three channels, then 6 channels. It's all over the place |
| [04:36:28] | jya: | [R]: if you can't decode the AAC audio to start with, converting it isn't going to help |
| [04:36:39] | [R]: | jya: like i said, my hardware upnp device can play it |
| [04:37:31] | wagnerrp: | oof, just indexed the wrong VOB |
| [04:37:39] | jya: | the AAC is decoded as 2,3,5,6,5,8 (!!), 5 , 5 @ 7350Hz etc |
| [04:38:11] | [R]: | well now that i know what hte problem is, i'll play around with libfaad and some other stuff |
| [04:38:13] | jya: | wagnerrp: she was in Tron Legacy.. have you seen it? I prefer the girl in whites there :) |
| [04:38:14] | sphery: | at least it's not 4,8,15,16,23,42 ... |
| [04:38:44] | wagnerrp: | the girl in white looked... creepy |
| [04:38:49] | sphery: | olivia wilde is thirteen? |
| [04:38:49] | wagnerrp: | too much makeup |
| [04:38:58] | wagnerrp: | but then thirteen had a bit too much too |
| [04:39:02] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [04:39:23] | sphery: | wow, back to watching... I have to get through a few seasons really fast |
| [04:39:24] | jya: | [R]: what you could try is get the source code for 0.23 ; compile with configure --enable-libfaad and install it in a different prefix folder ; then play just that file... |
| [04:39:32] | jya: | but I'm guessing, it's just a crappy recording |
| [04:39:50] | [R]: | well i'm doing passthrough to the hdpvr, so i assume the source audio from the cable box is the culprit? |
| [04:39:54] | jya: | wagnerrp: I don't think I care much about the makeup, nothing a 10s shower can't fix |
| [04:40:50] | jya: | [R]: this is AAC audio, not AC3.. I thought the HDPVR was outputting AC3 .. It's pretty rate to see AAC audio in the US.. Didn't know the broadcast that |
| [04:41:30] | jpabq: | [R], jya, makes me wonder if myth is not properly telling the HD-PVR that we want AC3 instead of AAC. Or if the HD-PVR is just screwing up sometimes --- Although I never saw the problem before a few weeks ago. |
| [04:41:49] | [R]: | does the hdpvr reencode the audio though? |
| [04:42:01] | jpabq: | jya, the HD-PVR can be told to generate either AAC or AC3. |
| [04:42:16] | jya: | jpabq: yeah, but that's not passthrough then is it ? |
| [04:42:20] | jpabq: | [R] if the input is 5.1, it will just mux it. If the input is 2.0, then... |
| [04:42:51] | [R]: | it should be 5.1, but i'm playing another recording of the same show and it looks like its 2.0 |
| [04:43:01] | jpabq: | I should say, if the input is Dolby Digital, then it will mux it. If the input is 2.0 PCM, then... |
| [04:44:05] | jya: | jpabq: I can reproduce the audio corruption when AC3 is reencoded BTW |
| [04:44:41] | jpabq: | jya, Awesome. Thank you for looking into that. |
| [04:44:58] | [R]: | jya: is it easy to remux the audio back into the mpeg? |
| [04:47:36] | jya: | I'm going to revert to earlier code , when the AC3 encoder had its own spdif encoder, the issue wasn't showing. I have to check if the issue comes from a bug I introduced in the AC3 encoder, or in the new spdif muxer. |
| [04:47:51] | jya: | [R]: if your audio is crapula to start with, there's nothing you can do |
| [04:48:20] | jya: | as for remuxing audio and video, it isn't too hard using ffmpeg : but this will more than likely break your A/V Sync |
| [04:49:55] | [R]: | ok, well then i guess it gets back to why the hdpvr isn't putting out ac3 |
| [04:49:55] | jya: | [R]: when this kind of corruption occur, the best thing to do is : swear, complain on how crap it is, and wait for a new broadcast. Or swear, complain on how crap it is and find a torrent with the same show |
| [04:50:33] | jya: | [R]: or compiled an old mplayer and using libfaad |
| [04:50:55] | jya: | libfaad was quite robust, more so than ffmpeg's own decoder |
| [04:51:06] | [R]: | jya: well i'm trying to use 'faad'... which i assume is linked against libfaad |
| [04:51:08] | [R]: | and its choking on it |
| [04:51:37] | jya: | [R]: mplayer, ffmpeg do not have libfaad support for almost a year now |
| [04:51:51] | [R]: | i'm not using mplayer... |
| [04:51:59] | jya: | you need to compile it with --enable-libfaad and have the libfaad header installed |
| [04:52:13] | jya: | myth 0.24 can not use libfaad |
| [04:53:35] | [R]: | ok, the hdpvr is at fault |
| [04:53:38] | [R]: | i have 3 recordings of the same show |
| [04:53:43] | mycoDA: | why did they get rid of libfaad support then? |
| [04:53:44] | [R]: | 2 are corrupt, and both are aac stereo |
| [04:53:48] | wagnerrp: | wow... avidemux completely botched that ac3 clipping |
| [04:53:48] | [R]: | the good one is ac3 stereo |
| [04:55:20] | ** [R] files a bug report ** | |
| [04:55:27] | jya: | mycoDA: ffmpeg wanted to use their own decoder. |
| [04:55:31] | wagnerrp: | i guess when you tell it to 'copy', its going to do exactly that |
| [04:55:47] | wagnerrp: | lets try again recompressing the audio |
| [04:56:00] | mycoDA: | but why? ego, or something better, or what? |
| [04:56:55] | wagnerrp: | for the same reason that mozilla wants their own decoders in their browser, rather than relying on external libs, or system APIsa |
| [04:57:25] | wagnerrp: | or why we use our own internal ffmpeg fork, rather than pulling it in from the system |
| [04:57:36] | wagnerrp: | they want their own code that they have control over, and can maintain consistency with |
| [04:58:36] | [R]: | who likes the black flavored jujyfruits |
| [04:58:37] | [R]: | they are so gross |
| [04:58:49] | mycoDA: | what are jujyfruits? |
| [04:58:56] | [R]: | candy |
| [04:59:09] | [R]: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jujyfruits |
| [05:00:02] | wagnerrp: | and avidemux fails yet a second time |
| [05:00:13] | wagnerrp: | whats the point of allowing you to clip the video, if you cant clip the audio |
| [05:00:24] | wagnerrp: | jya, you know of any quick software that will cut ac3 files? |
| [05:00:41] | jya: | wagnerrp: cut in which way ? |
| [05:01:08] | wagnerrp: | as in i only want a 45 second chunk out of a 10 minute ac3 file |
| [05:01:31] | Shadow__X: | hey guys just a fyi but burn notice the fall of sam axe does not get detecting under the normal recording schedule |
| [05:01:39] | jya: | I use adobe premiere when I want to create my own files |
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| [05:02:00] | [R]: | wagnerrp: audacity? |
| [05:02:20] | wagnerrp: | maybe if i mux the audio track into the video first, avidemux will work right |
| [05:02:26] | jya: | if you just want the audio, you could use the new mythtranscode passthrough bit , and extract the ac3 audio. or ffmpeg for that matter |
| [05:02:33] | Shadow__X: | ah probably because it comes up as a movie |
| [05:02:48] | wagnerrp: | man, encoding DVDs was never so much of a hassle when i was trying to do the whole thing |
| [05:02:59] | wagnerrp: | its actually harder just to pull a clip out |
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| [05:04:42] | wagnerrp: | and the lowly 300GB drive on my desktop is not happy with this huffyuv intermediary file |
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| [05:17:01] | [R]: | jpabq |
| [05:17:05] | [R]: | jpabq: you still there? |
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| [06:00:25] | wagnerrp: | crap... i think the right speaker in my headphones is giving out |
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| [06:26:59] | Shadow__X: | hey guys just a fyi the osx-package.pl is linking to an outdated mysql package in the master repo |
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| [06:30:00] | Shadow__X: | actually all of them. the packgage builbot links to is not there as well |
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| [06:33:53] | Shadow__X: | this link would fix it |
| [06:33:54] | Shadow__X: | http://downloads.mysql.com/archives/mysql-5.1 . . . .1.54.tar.gz |
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| [08:07:19] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: in MainServer::HandleDownloadFile, you keep doing checks to see whether the playbacksock is a valid pointer |
| [08:07:25] | wagnerrp: | in what event would it not be? |
| [08:07:59] | wagnerrp: | the only thing i can think of would be the case of a client sending a download command, and instantly dropping the connection before a response |
| [08:08:24] | wagnerrp: | but even then, due to the reference counters, the playbacksock and mythsocket should not have been yet deleted |
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| [09:12:24] | Beirdo: | I think bed time has arrived. |
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| [09:16:42] | mycoDA: | is only quarter past seven beirdo :P |
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| [09:23:22] | justinh: | gah. I frickin HATE this stupid Cisco phone system |
| [09:24:01] | justinh: | updated my speed dials via a web page (most stupid thing ever conceived IMHO), but the numbers haven't changed on the phone despite 'rebooting' it |
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| [09:32:51] | clever: | mycoDA: no, its half past 6 (am)! |
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| [09:40:25] | rambo3: | esselam aleikum my muslim brothers |
| [09:41:04] | justinh: | here we go. No, there is still no chess plugin for MythTV |
| [09:41:04] | rambo3: | I think the plan worked |
| [09:41:19] | rambo3: | what are you on about infidel? |
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| [09:41:59] | ** justinh suddenly misses being an op ** | |
| [09:42:28] | rambo3: | original oposum ? |
| [09:42:43] | justinh: | no, an operator able to kickban trolls |
| [09:43:24] | rambo3: | anyway |
| [09:43:34] | rambo3: | how do get openx to work with mssql ? |
| [09:43:57] | justinh: | er... what does that have to do with mythtv precisely? Apart from nothing, I mean |
| [09:44:45] | rambo3: | how do i hack computers? |
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| [09:45:41] | rambo3: | can I twitter my facebook ? |
| [09:46:50] | rambo3: | lemonade |
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| [09:49:51] | justinh: | cheers GreyFoxx :-) |
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| [09:56:22] | guar: | hi, sorry got disconnected yesterday |
| [09:59:53] | guar: | I still have problems to configure a technotrend s1500 with myth tv. I get no signal. I installed mythbuntu 10.10 on that pc. I followed the setup instructions of the wiki pages. I have one dish with 3 lnb's and a diseq 4/1 switch. it works with the original software under win7. :'( Any ideas? |
| [10:02:39] | justinh: | did you configure the diseqc stuff in mythtv-setup ? |
| [10:03:32] | justinh: | presumably you've already added the tuner.. but you also need to set up the diseqc options in there too |
| [10:03:53] | guar: | in the backend, yes. diseq switch and then 3 lnb's |
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| [10:05:13] | justinh: | and you tried doing a scan from a known transponder.. not a full scan, right? |
| [10:05:43] | guar: | i tried a full transponder scan |
| [10:05:52] | guar: | not the full scan |
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| [10:06:11] | justinh: | and you know the tuner works in linux, right? |
| [10:06:13] | guar: | one sec i switch to the other pc. back in a sec |
| [10:06:18] | justinh: | I mean you've tested it outside of mythtv? |
| [10:07:53] | guar: | oh, no sorry i do not know that. but when I added the card under capture cards it was found |
| [10:08:15] | guar: | sorry how do I test it outside of mythtv? |
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| [10:09:49] | hot_wheelz: | the Hauppauge NOVA-TD Dual Tuner works otb right? |
| [10:09:51] | justinh: | er.. like with other programs.. like kaffeine, VLC... |
| [10:10:01] | justinh: | hot_wheelz: depends |
| [10:10:19] | hot_wheelz: | justinh on? |
| [10:10:25] | justinh: | hot_wheelz: early versions may not. they used different chips which are never going to be supported in linux |
| [10:11:41] | guar: | the tt s1500 work fine with win7 |
| [10:11:59] | hot_wheelz: | justinh how can u tell what chip it's using before u buy it? |
| [10:12:00] | justinh: | guar: that tells you nothing you don't already know |
| [10:12:04] | justinh: | hot_wheelz: you can't |
| [10:12:16] | justinh: | buy from somewhere with a good returns policy :) |
| [10:12:31] | justinh: | but then that's a good habit to have anyway |
| [10:12:45] | hot_wheelz: | justinh didn't think so yeah ok |
| [10:12:54] | guar: | and as far as I understand the card schould work out of the box with mythtv, isn't that right? |
| [10:13:08] | justinh: | guar: no |
| [10:13:15] | justinh: | guar: it's all dependent on LINUX |
| [10:13:33] | justinh: | like if LINUX doesn't load driver modules the card needs to work, it'll never work in mythtv |
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| [10:14:18] | justinh: | maybe it *should*, but sometimes some modules don't autoload like you might expect.. and then users have to go a-prodding |
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| [10:15:54] | justinh: | some distros also don't come ready shipped with firmware some cards need – again making stuff not work out of the box |
| [10:15:55] | guar: | ok justinh, thanks I will try it. |
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| [13:43:26] | rileyp: | audio over hdmi my speakers come up differnt to what they should be using myths test function. MY FE is connected via hdmi to the receiver and speaker to it. The speakers are wired correctly to amp |
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| [13:44:20] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, I may have done it that way so that we could trigger that method without a pbs and it would still work. such as via the web API, etc.. can't recall off the top of my head, maybe I was being overly cautious. |
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| [13:58:24] | mycoDA: | rileyp – maybe you should give some more detail, maybe even ask a question |
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| [15:35:47] | katumba1: | Hello all. Would any one be willing to help a noob out getting the analog side of an HVR2250 working? Got the digital side working, finally. Looks great. Thanks. |
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| [15:38:44] | tank-man: | just press the easy button |
| [15:39:19] | tank-man: | You need to explain more than your goal, you need to let us know what you did and what happened instead or what you expected |
| [15:39:21] | Shadow__X: | katumba1: look at the wiki |
| [15:39:51] | Shadow__X: | katumba1: there is a good chance the analog side still does not have support unless they have made progress since the last time i have checked |
| [15:40:13] | iamlindoro: | analog has worked for many months, and several people use it with myth |
| [15:40:27] | katumba1: | Thank you. I have. I've been working on it about 3 weeks. Formatted and started over multiple times. Tried following Toth's instructions and others. |
| [15:40:29] | iamlindoro: | But since I don't own the board, I'm not the guy to help with that ;) |
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| [15:41:51] | Shadow__X: | good thing i said unless |
| [15:42:13] | Shadow__X: | katumba1: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2250 |
| [15:43:42] | katumba1: | @shadow: yes, tried those steps. nada. |
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| [16:37:48] | katumba1: | not sure if it matters, but I would gladly pay someone for their time to get this working... |
| [16:38:47] | wagnerrp: | Patrick-2? |
| [16:41:02] | wagnerrp: | wow... linux/unix is now illegal in france |
| [16:41:26] | wagnerrp: | as is windows for that matter |
| [16:41:47] | skd5aner: | what isn't illegal in france? |
| [16:42:12] | wagnerrp: | you must now store passwords as recoverable plain text, no hashes |
| [16:42:32] | mycoDA: | wtf? |
| [16:43:21] | wagnerrp: | so that government bodies can recover and use them |
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| [16:43:50] | mycoDA: | yeah, i get that, but............. didnt they learn a thing from the cypherpunk movement |
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| [16:44:16] | mycoDA: | was just reading your page devinheitmueller |
| [16:44:30] | devinheitmueller: | what page is this? |
| [16:44:32] | mycoDA: | *site lol |
| [16:44:33] | devinheitmueller: | sorry? |
| [16:44:35] | mycoDA: | kernellabs |
| [16:44:38] | devinheitmueller: | Oh, ok. |
| [16:45:24] | devinheitmueller: | Well, that's what it's there for. :-) |
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| [16:45:51] | mycoDA: | apparently katumba1 is willing to pay to get his 2250 working lol – mayb u should give him you contract rates lol |
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| [16:47:27] | devinheitmueller: | Steve Toth would be the better person to talk to. That said, I suspect katumba1 was thinking, "can I give somebody $20 to help me make my card work?", not "Can I engage in a consulting contract with a kernel developer?". |
| [16:48:04] | wagnerrp: | semantics |
| [16:48:23] | devinheitmueller: | On the other hand, the only reason the 2250 works at all under Linux was because *somebody* needed it to work bad enough to pay for it. |
| [16:48:39] | katumba1: | @devin: already emailed Steve. He suggested I come here. It's worth a lot more than $20 to get it working... I value peoples time and knowledge. |
| [16:49:05] | wagnerrp: | well a not insignificant amount of mythtv was programmed that way too |
| [16:49:33] | devinheitmueller: | I don't doubt it. |
| [16:50:21] | devinheitmueller: | If you've got a modern distro and are running a current MythTV, the card should work pretty much as well as any other. So it's likely that whatever issue you are seeing is a general user problem and not related to the fact that it's a 2250 card. |
| [16:51:28] | devinheitmueller: | In other words: do you have the firmware installed? Did you look at the dmesg output? Do you see /dev/videoX nodes created? Did you put the analog and digital sources into the same MythTV input group? |
| [16:52:57] | katumba1: | firmware installed for digital side fine. errors compiling from instructions I'm following for the analog side. That is the issue, AFAIK. |
| [16:53:53] | devinheitmueller: | If you're running a current distro, you shouldn't need to compile anything. |
| [16:54:04] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: right? The analog support got merged upstream a long time ago? |
| [16:54:24] | katumba1: | ls /dev/video* ls: cannot access /dev/video*: No such file or directory |
| [16:54:29] | wagnerrp: | dont quote me on this, but i believe its in 2.6.37 |
| [16:54:37] | devinheitmueller: | What distro/version are you running? |
| [16:55:05] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: sounds about right. |
| [16:55:17] | katumba1: | uname -a 2.6.35–28 ---- maybe that's the issue... |
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| [16:56:37] | devinheitmueller: | There are issue building the KernelLabs hg based trees with newer kernels (due to breakage of function names elsewhere in the kernel). Your fastest solution might just be to compile a current kernel. |
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| [16:59:04] | katumba1: | i'm using the mythbunto distro. is it still possible to compile a current kernel using that? Sorry. Noob. |
| [16:59:53] | devinheitmueller: | If you just built the box, your fastest route might just to be to scrap the current install and install the latest bleeding edge Mythbuntu. |
| [17:01:03] | tgm4883: | someone needs a newer mythbuntu kernel? |
| [17:01:10] | ** tgm4883 reads backlog ** | |
| [17:02:02] | tgm4883: | You can try installing a newer kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ |
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| [17:07:13] | katumba1: | devin: I'm currently using the latest version they have available (10.10) w/ all updates bringing myth to .24. I'd rather not have to start over again as I have the digital working, the HDMI audio working, the remote working, and programing scheduled and recording. However, I'll do what ever needs to be done to get it working. |
| [17:08:28] | katumba1: | tgm: i have no idea where to even start on compiling a new kernel. |
| [17:08:42] | iamlindoro: | He's not suggesting you compile it |
| [17:08:47] | iamlindoro: | he linked you to straight packages for it |
| [17:10:24] | katumba1: | iam: so I change my package manager to use that as a source? |
| [17:11:48] | iamlindoro: | You find the kernel you want that is listed for the version of ubuntu you are running, download the package files, and install them |
| [17:12:32] | skd5aner: | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBu . . . inlineBuilds |
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| [17:16:10] | katumba1: | ah, so wget linux-headers... and so on. Is there a rc that is better? just go up to 2.6.37? or newer? |
| [17:18:38] | skd5aner: | or – wait until April 28, and install Ubuntu 11.04 |
| [17:19:32] | katumba1: | april 28? I'd miss a bunch of hockey games! lol. |
| [17:20:25] | skd5aner: | just saying – it'll come with 2.6.38 |
| [17:20:48] | skd5aner: | you could install the ppa kernel for 10.10, then upgrade to 11.04 at the end of the month too |
| [17:21:44] | skd5aner: | so clean – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_r . . . ion_timeline |
| [17:27:14] | katumba1: | not one to wait... installed mainline 2.6.38 w/ sudo dpkg -i *.deb. no errors. rebooted. still 2.6.35–28 w/ uname -a |
| [17:30:12] | skd5aner: | katumba1: you downloaded the linux-image-2.6.38-blahblahblah? |
| [17:30:27] | skd5aner: | not linux-headers |
| [17:30:48] | skd5aner: | you won't need that unless you're compiling something against the kernel like an nvidia driver for example |
| [17:31:28] | skd5aner: | what's the full uname -a output look like? |
| [17:31:54] | katumba1: | Linux michael-GA-MA74GM-S2 2.6.35-28-generic-pae #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:58:06 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
| [17:32:59] | skd5aner: | why a pae build? anyway – what .deb did you download? |
| [17:33:41] | skd5aner: | and what CPU do you have in your machine? |
| [17:34:11] | katumba1: | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline . . . 1303_all.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline . . . 303_i386.deb |
| [17:34:22] | skd5aner: | those are just the headers |
| [17:34:33] | skd5aner: | like I said, you're going to want the -image debs |
| [17:34:36] | katumba1: | amd 32 bit |
| [17:34:40] | katumba1: | ah, see that now |
| [17:34:44] | skd5aner: | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline . . . 628_i386.deb |
| [17:35:29] | katumba1: | thank you. like I said... noob. |
| [17:35:35] | skd5aner: | np |
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| [17:41:34] | skd5aner: | Man – it's so easy now-a-days – I can remember compiling kernels all the time back in the day, but probably haven't done that in ~4 years |
| [17:41:44] | katumba1: | WOoHoo!! ls /dev/video* /dev/video0 /dev/video1 |
| [17:42:08] | skd5aner: | I accept money via paypal |
| [17:42:12] | skd5aner: | ;) |
| [17:42:32] | katumba1: | gladly. PM me w/ info. |
| [17:42:39] | skd5aner: | no... I'm just kidding |
| [17:42:56] | devinheitmueller: | heh. |
| [17:43:04] | katumba1: | I'm serious. Or, tell me a charity or something. I'll put it in your name. |
| [17:43:06] | skd5aner: | besides, it was devin and his team you really want to thank since they actually *wrote* the drivers to begin with |
| [17:43:40] | wagnerrp: | (and the hardware to go with the drivers) |
| [17:43:41] | skd5aner: | http://www.devinheitmueller.com/linux_support_fund.html |
| [17:43:50] | devinheitmueller: | I cannot really take any credit for the 2250. I actually don't even own a board. |
| [17:44:21] | devinheitmueller: | (which is a bit ironic since I could have just walked into the warehouse and told them to give me one). |
| [17:45:18] | devinheitmueller: | That said though, Steven has a "donate" button at the bottom of his page: http://www.steventoth.net/blog/products/hvr-2250/ |
| [17:45:20] | devinheitmueller: | :-) |
| [17:45:28] | skd5aner: | there you go :) |
| [17:45:40] | katumba1: | thank you. Will donate to both. |
| [17:46:32] | skd5aner: | FOSS at it's finest right there |
| [17:46:48] | skd5aner: | er, "its" for the grammar nazis |
| [17:47:48] | katumba1: | your donation is now complete |
| [17:49:16] | devinheitmueller: | Well, look at that. Thank you very much! |
| [17:49:21] | katumba1: | 2nd one to Steven Toth: your donation is now complete |
| [17:49:29] | katumba1: | Thank you! |
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| [17:51:42] | JEDIDIAH__: | is anyone working on the new HD analog capture card from Hauppauge |
| [17:52:06] | skd5aner: | last I heard – no linux support at all (thus far) |
| [17:52:07] | wagnerrp: | the collosus? |
| [17:52:25] | devinheitmueller: | There is no FOSS development going on for that card to my knowledge. |
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| [17:53:16] | devinheitmueller: | And given it's a PCIe design, I don't foresee anybody reverse engineering it anytime soon. |
| [17:54:45] | skd5aner: | It amazing how littler I record in SD anymore, 70% off QAM and 30% off an HDPVR |
| [17:54:47] | CyberKnet: | PCIe makes things much more difficult to reverse? (asks the guy who hasn't the foggiest how things are done on *any* card) |
| [17:55:15] | skd5aner: | er, 70% off QAM, 25% off HDPVR and 5% off Analog |
| [17:55:37] | skd5aner: | might be time to pull out everything except 1 PVR-500 |
| [17:55:41] | ** wagnerrp wakes up the grammar nazis again ** | |
| [17:55:57] | skd5aner: | no, typo nazis though |
| [17:56:05] | devinheitmueller: | CyberKnet: Generally, yes PCIe is more difficult to reverse engineer than say USB. |
| [17:56:12] | ** skd5aner is embarrassed sometimes by his lack of proofreading ** | |
| [17:56:39] | skd5aner: | "littler" – geeze :/ |
| [17:56:54] | wagnerrp: | :P |
| [17:57:02] | CyberKnet: | Not as bad as the proof reading this guy did.... http://failblog.org/2011/04/07/epic-fail-phot . . . eading-fail/ |
| [17:57:58] | wagnerrp: | wow |
| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | devinheitmueller: interesting... thanks. |
| [17:59:08] | CyberKnet: | devinheitmueller: kernel labs blog slowed down a bit lately... anything in the pipeline that you can't talk about? :D |
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| [17:59:30] | ** CyberKnet considers the possible answers to that question.... heh ** | |
| [18:00:22] | devinheitmueller: | I changed day jobs recently, so I've been pretty busy. I've got a few things cooking, but nothing I can really talk about at this point. For the most part, just trying to get my backlog of drivers which have been sitting in the KernelLabs source repo upstreamed. |
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| [18:00:40] | devinheitmueller: | .... and I've been doing a bunch of closed captioning work for VLC, which isn't driver related but still pretty valuable. |
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| [18:00:56] | CyberKnet: | devinheitmueller: changed jobs at the same place, or new employer? |
| [18:01:02] | devinheitmueller: | New employer. |
| [18:01:17] | CyberKnet: | congrats on the move. |
| [18:01:22] | CyberKnet: | I hope. |
| [18:02:10] | devinheitmueller: | thanks. |
| [18:02:50] | skd5aner: | Kormoc: ping |
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| [18:21:33] | wagnerrp: | do temporary tables in mysql ever make it to disk? |
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| [18:24:24] | wagnerrp: | seems it depends on the size |
| [18:26:37] | wagnerrp: | funky |
| [18:26:52] | wagnerrp: | my frontends keep opening up filetransfer connections exactly once per hour |
| [18:27:05] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: would that have something to do with the theme updater? |
| [18:27:39] | katumba1: | me again... Got the analog and digital working on my 2250. setup capture cards. Scanned for channels. All good. Went to watch Live TV, and getting the analog channel briefly, then a blue screen. HD channels come in great. Is there a way to fine tune the analog side? |
| [18:28:21] | devinheitmueller: | Make sure you have the digital and analog devices in the same input group, and make sure EIT scanning is disabled for the digital tuners. |
| [18:30:01] | wagnerrp: | as in adapter0 and video0 in the same input group, so mythtv knows of their mutual exclusivity |
| [18:33:52] | katumba1: | the EIT was checked on the digital settings. unchecked it. cards are 'dev/video0 and adapter0 in the input group. running database fill, then will check it. Thanks. |
| [18:34:08] | wagnerrp: | dont run mythfilldatabase |
| [18:34:29] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned by the popup, you only need to run that if your channel lineup has changed |
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| [18:41:05] | katumba1: | still same. HD fine, analog comes in briefly then goes to blue and static. All analogs. /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 and /dev/video0 |
| [18:41:36] | wagnerrp: | adapter0 is digital, not analog |
| [18:42:26] | katumba1: | i meant all analog channels come in blue. all digital channels are fine. |
| [18:42:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, yes, once per hour, the FE's will check in with the MBE to see if it has an updated themes.zip index file. if so, they'll download it and see if the current theme has been updated. I should change that to check only if we're at the main menu. check once, then check every X minutes/hours after that. it only displays the notification if we're at the main menu, so why check if we're not. |
| [18:47:20] | devinheitmueller: | katumba1: did you put adapter0 and video0 into the same input group? |
| [18:48:41] | wagnerrp: | maybe that should be moved to a broadcast event, with frontends only checking manually on initial connection? |
| [18:49:13] | katumba1: | devin; do you mean from option 4 on the backend setup? input connections? |
| [18:49:44] | devinheitmueller: | I believe that's what it's called. |
| [18:50:12] | devinheitmueller: | There's an option for "input group". You want to make sure that adapter0 and video0 are in input group zero, and adapter1 and video1 are in input group one. |
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| [18:56:55] | katumba1: | yes, found that option. I created a new group, put adapter0 and video0 in that group. I don't have a adapter1 or video1. Though, I just went through my capture card setup and it will allow me to create dev/dvb/adapter1. |
| [18:57:58] | katumba1: | input group 2 is set to Generic |
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| [19:01:36] | wagnerrp: | the second input group would be for if your analog inputs were connected to a STB, that you were also using for firewire |
| [19:06:03] | devinheitmueller: | You have a 2250 but no adapter1 or video 1? Do you mean that the device nodes don't exist in /dev? Or just that you didn't bother setting them up in MythTV yet? |
| [19:06:34] | wagnerrp: | or perhaps is this an HVR-1850? |
| [19:06:47] | wagnerrp: | which AFAIK still has unresolved issues with analog in mythtv |
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| [19:07:51] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: Nah, if he didn't have a 2250 he wouldn't have needed the new kernel. |
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| [19:08:07] | katumba1: | it is a 2250. i get /dev/video0 /dev/video1 and, it will let me setup adapter1. Just wanted to get this fixed and working before getting greedy and wanting more inputs... |
| [19:08:41] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: Steve has a ton of fixes to the 885 driver in a private tree, but I don't know if it resolves the 1850 issue with analog and Myth. I have been hesitant to want to put any time into it until his fixes go upstream. |
| [19:08:50] | devinheitmueller: | katumba1: Ah, ok. Fair enough. |
| [19:09:04] | devinheitmueller: | Does the problem still happen now that both nodes are in the same input group (and EIT has been disabled)? |
| [19:09:19] | wagnerrp: | do you know off hand what the issue was that conflicted with mythtv? |
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| [19:12:34] | katumba1: | yes, analog channels come in briefly, then turns blue and I hear static. Digital fine. video0 and adapter0 in a new group I created under input group 1. EIT off. |
| [19:13:03] | wagnerrp: | what input are you using? the tuner or one of the basebands? |
| [19:13:04] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: I hadn't debugged it firsthand, but I talked to Steve about it and he thought it was a timing race with stopping/starting the DMA engine on the chip. |
| [19:14:46] | katumba1: | wagnerrp: under 'channel freq tables |
| [19:14:52] | wagnerrp: | so it was an issue with how mythtv closed and then re-opened the card? |
| [19:15:07] | katumba1: | i'm using us-cable. is that what you mean? |
| [19:15:16] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: I suspect so. Either during channel changes, or when going from digital to analog mode. |
| [19:15:36] | wagnerrp: | i mean 'what input are you using'? |
| [19:15:47] | wagnerrp: | the tuner? one of the composite inputs? one of the svideo inputs? |
| [19:16:03] | katumba1: | ah, the COAX. |
| [19:17:42] | devinheitmueller: | katumba1: do you have the input configured to "tuner"? |
| [19:17:57] | katumba1: | devin: yes. |
| [19:17:58] | devinheitmueller: | In mythtv-setup, under the input configuration, you have to choose the correct input to caputre on. |
| [19:18:01] | devinheitmueller: | ok. |
| [19:19:34] | katumba1: | for dev/video0 yes, set to tuner |
| [19:19:47] | devinheitmueller: | Generally speaking, if the tuner is showing "blue video", then the video decoder has dropped into free-running mode, which will occur if the wrong input is selected, or tuning lock is lost. |
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| [19:20:22] | devinheitmueller: | If you're seeing video for a second or so, *then* it shows blue video, that means something is changing the configuration of the card after the tuning request. |
| [19:21:29] | katumba1: | yes, that's what's happening. I get a sec or two of the channel (looks fine, audio good), then it drops to blue. |
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| [19:24:32] | katumba1: | and, if I leave it on an analog channel, it will come in and out briefly. |
| [19:24:57] | devinheitmueller: | Oh, really? |
| [19:25:13] | devinheitmueller: | You didn't mention previously that it comes and goes. Just that it goes to blue after a second of video. |
| [19:25:21] | devinheitmueller: | Check your cabling. Make sure you have a good signal. |
| [19:27:40] | katumba1: | i thought it might be that, too. However, back when I first trying to get this working, I installed Win7, and media center played all channels just fine, and my TV can show all channels fine (it's on the same cable). |
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| [19:31:58] | devinheitmueller: | katumba1: you have the coax screwed into the "top" connector, right? |
| [19:36:21] | katumba1: | lol. yes. Thanks for checking. I actually made that mistake a few weeks back. |
| [19:37:14] | katumba1: | analog and digital direct to my TV is fine. Digital to myth is fine. Analog drops off. |
| [19:37:14] | devinheitmueller: | If it's coming and going, that feels like some sort of marginal signal condition (or at least the tuner is falling in and out of tune) |
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| [19:41:13] | ikke-t: | evening guys, any hints for the following error while DVD audio failing? |
| [19:41:27] | ikke-t: | AudioPlayer: Disabling Audio, reason is: Aborting Audio Reconfigure. Invalid audio parameters ch -1 fmt 0 @ - |
| [19:41:30] | ikke-t: | 1Hz |
| [19:41:51] | katumba1: | Oh, also, I had an analog HVR1600 before this card to test this whole thing out. It worked fine. Is there any settings that can changed to keep the tuner from falling out of tune? |
| [19:41:52] | ikke-t: | i haven't had audio problems normally in the system |
| [19:42:05] | ikke-t: | 24-fixes here |
| [19:42:24] | devinheitmueller: | katumba1: the 1600 and 2250 are completely different hardware designs. |
| [19:42:36] | devinheitmueller: | It's not clear *why* the 2250 is falling out of tune. |
| [19:42:48] | katumba1: | grrrr |
| [19:43:58] | wagnerrp: | can you just 'cat /dev/video0 > some_file.mpg' and see if it maintains a tune? |
| [19:44:11] | wagnerrp: | have mythbackend off when doing this |
| [19:44:20] | devinheitmueller: | that's definitely worth a try. |
| [19:44:36] | wagnerrp: | you didnt do anything like define an external channel changer did you? |
| [19:44:37] | devinheitmueller: | (assuming the device stays tuned after closing the v4l2 device) |
| [19:44:57] | sphery: | perhaps we could use auto-tune--after all, it seems like every recording artist, today, uses it |
| [19:45:08] | sphery: | oh, wait, different tune... |
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| [19:45:29] | Chat1495: | queers |
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| [19:46:18] | sphery: | thanks... was looking up how to do that |
| [19:46:25] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [19:46:33] | sphery: | some aren't even worth a warning |
| [19:48:07] | devinheitmueller: | probably a script scanning through all the channels... |
| [19:48:21] | sphery: | wonder what for |
| [19:48:28] | iamlindoro: | dates |
| [19:48:32] | sphery: | heh |
| [19:48:58] | wagnerrp: | apparently those of a homosexual persuasion |
| [19:49:28] | sphery: | no one wants mythtv dates... they're not even in UTC |
| [19:49:30] | iamlindoro: | or neo-nazis |
| [19:51:38] | katumba1: | no external tuner. will try the cat /dev/video0 |
| [19:51:43] | iamlindoro: | ie, those that say, "Yeah, what's UP with those guys, anyway?" |
| [19:52:45] | wagnerrp: | those that fly through chicago in primary color station wagons? |
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| [19:53:38] | iamlindoro: | I was thinking more the kind that fly through Minneapolis and run for republican congressional seats |
| [19:54:45] | wagnerrp: | why do people reply to the list to start a new thread? |
| [19:55:46] | kormoc: | skd5aner, pong |
| [19:56:05] | skd5aner: | kormoc: uhhhh... I'm forgetting now :( |
| [19:56:09] | skd5aner: | kormoc: oh yea... |
| [19:56:35] | skd5aner: | kormoc: noticed something slightly funny in the css of your newer mythweb theme... |
| [19:56:51] | skd5aner: | clean blue |
| [19:57:40] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [19:57:43] | skd5aner: | On the recorded programs page, the channel icon has a max width, but not a max height... |
| [19:57:55] | skd5aner: | so, 99% of the time that's not an issue since most icons are basically square |
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| [19:58:08] | katumba1: | resulting mpg from cat /dev/video0 is blue when played back. |
| [19:58:13] | skd5aner: | except for the HQ icon I pulled off lyngsat for E! |
| [19:58:31] | kormoc: | skd5aner, hrm. what's your browser doing? |
| [19:58:38] | wagnerrp: | katumba1: try using v4l2-ctl to set the tuner input and tune a channel first |
| [19:58:41] | skd5aner: | Which is just a giant ! |
| [19:58:47] | skd5aner: | so it's very tall |
| [19:58:50] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [19:59:04] | wagnerrp: | shouldnt it scale proportionally? |
| [19:59:12] | skd5aner: | by the time the max width comes into play, the thing is like 300px tall :) |
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| [19:59:17] | kormoc: | it's suppose aye |
| [19:59:33] | skd5aner: | it does in the channel listing page, but seems to forget to do it on the recorded programs page |
| [20:02:30] | skd5aner: | just sets width to 70 |
| [20:02:53] | skd5aner: | so it'll scale nicely if you reach the width :) |
| [20:04:53] | skd5aner: | for some reason – the E! logo for US isn't loading on lyngsat correctly right now, but the AU logo is identical – http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/download.html?ima . . . path=ee/e_au |
| [20:06:21] | skd5aner: | really it should have a max width or max height, so for icons will scale to the largest side |
| [20:07:21] | skd5aner: | for example, the local fox affiliat's logo is basically the same thing, only horizontal – really skinny logo, but it scales nice to 70px wide, but would be impacted similiarly if it was just changed to height instead of width |
| [20:09:05] | skd5aner: | tall logos such as this one which are originally 400x1000 are scaled to 70x175, still very tall :) |
| [20:11:58] | katumba1: | ok, got V4l2-ctl installed. set input to 0. How do I display it? |
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| [20:15:03] | kormoc: | skd5aner, fair 'nuff. If you want to submit a patch and/or a ticket, that'd be great :) |
| [20:15:16] | skd5aner: | heh – I am working on it :) |
| [20:16:02] | skd5aner: | is there a way to search the source on github? |
| [20:23:31] | iamlindoro: | let me know if you find one |
| [20:23:44] | iamlindoro: | I still have no idea how to hunt down a commit quickly with git, try as I might |
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| [20:29:16] | skd5aner: | kormoc: do you care if I move the width/height from the img tag into the channelicon class in the css? or do you prefer it stay as part of the tag? |
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| [20:30:45] | kormoc: | skd5aner, it won't resize correctly in all browsers if it's not on the img tag afaik |
| [20:31:08] | skd5aner: | Actually – I found some CSS that will work in all browsers |
| [20:31:17] | kormoc: | sure, give it a go then |
| [20:31:34] | skd5aner: | cool, thanks |
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| [20:48:44] | Beirdo: | la la la |
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| [20:50:47] | wagnerrp: | so i just got back from the grocery market, and now they have sanitary wipes where you get your carts, so you can clean off the handles |
| [20:50:52] | wagnerrp: | im just wondering... why? |
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| [20:51:34] | wagnerrp: | when you go to a public place like that, are you not going to clean your hands before licking them and getting all those delicious germs? |
| [20:51:53] | wagnerrp: | plus those same people who you dont trust to touch that handle are going to be touching all that produce youre about to eat |
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| [20:53:54] | AndyCap: | dunno but seems the scary stuff you get at the supermarket comes in sealed packages |
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| [21:06:10] | skd5aner: | kormoc: are the haze dark and haze lite skins still supported – I'm seeing that they basically don't have CSS files for a lot of stuff |
| [21:06:54] | JEDIDIAH__: | no. the worst stuff is in the sealed packages. more centralized processing. more effective germ distribution. |
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| [21:11:24] | AndyCap: | JEDIDIAH__: and nastier germs |
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| [21:19:53] | kormoc: | skd5aner, I'd guess they are. I think they just relied on defaults for a lot of things |
| [21:20:32] | skd5aner: | ok, well – I'll create a CSS file, but only put in the stuff I'm changing |
| [21:20:40] | JEDIDIAH__: | bagged lettuce and spinach were a real menace for awhile. |
| [21:20:42] | skd5aner: | at least that will account for the changes in the default img tag |
| [21:21:11] | Gumby`: | does anyone here know if it would be possible to automatically run a script at the end of each recording? |
| [21:21:37] | JEDIDIAH__: | you mean like user jobs? |
| [21:21:43] | JEDIDIAH__: | suuure. |
| [21:22:23] | Gumby`: | I've never messed with user jobs.... I'll have a look. I'm wondering if it is possible to be notifed via email when a show is finished recording or has started recording. |
| [21:23:24] | JEDIDIAH__: | if you have the script-fu then you can have anything happen. |
| [21:23:36] | Gumby`: | my script-fu is weak |
| [21:23:43] | Gumby`: | practically non existant |
| [21:23:49] | Gumby`: | but I have the tools to learn :D |
| [21:27:28] | katumba1: | devin: I tried putting the 1600 card back into my DVR along w/ the 2250 to use that for the analog. Halts at logon w/ a nvidia error. I'm thinking I rebuild it again from scratch and have both cards in. Is that worth it? |
| [21:27:53] | sphery: | skd5aner: what's git status give? (in pastebin, please) |
| [21:29:21] | sphery: | skd5aner: ^^^ |
| [21:30:08] | skd5aner: | http://pastebin.com/M7du6X8u |
| [21:30:44] | sphery: | ahh, looks like you're using mythtv git repo |
| [21:30:50] | sphery: | and you have your mythweb git repo inside it |
| [21:30:58] | sphery: | mv mythweb ../ |
| [21:31:02] | devinheitmueller: | katumba1: that's a known issue. one sec. |
| [21:31:10] | sphery: | cd ../mythweb && git diff > /wherever |
| [21:31:57] | skd5aner: | no dice |
| [21:31:58] | devinheitmueller: | katumba1: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1600 . . . rious_errors |
| [21:31:59] | skd5aner: | still empty |
| [21:32:00] | sphery: | katumba1: one approach is to disable nvidia-fb |
| [21:32:06] | sphery: | skd5aner: in mythweb dir: git status |
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| [21:32:24] | devinheitmueller: | katumba1: also described here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Common_Problem:_vmalloc_too_small |
| [21:32:30] | sphery: | katumba1: er: blacklist nvidiafb |
| [21:32:33] | sphery: | (no dash) |
| [21:33:04] | sphery: | personally, I don't like having nvidiafb and then using nvidia proprietary driver, too, so I just disable nvidiafb |
| [21:33:11] | sphery: | don't need kms, either, so no loss :) |
| [21:33:19] | skd5aner: | http://pastebin.com/72jXbDVa |
| [21:33:34] | sphery: | especially not worth allocating additional memory to the nvidia card, IMHO |
| [21:33:39] | skd5aner: | er..... |
| [21:33:43] | skd5aner: | I know why.. .just a sec |
| [21:34:07] | sphery: | skd5aner: good, because I'm running out of ideas :) |
| [21:34:49] | skd5aner: | http://pastebin.com/Mdj2Lk5a |
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| [21:35:14] | sphery: | skd5aner: ah, beautiful... |
| [21:35:23] | sphery: | then since you're adding new files, you'll have to do git add for them |
| [21:35:39] | sphery: | git add skins/haze_dark/tv_recorded.css skins/haze_light/tv_recorded.css skins/wap/tv_recorded.css |
| [21:35:46] | sphery: | after that, what does git status give? |
| [21:36:28] | sphery: | at that point, you should be able to do: git diff > /wherever |
| [21:36:35] | skd5aner: | http://pastebin.com/4qQDvYNB |
| [21:37:08] | sphery: | yeah, that will work, or, you can: git commit -a ; git diff origin/fixes/0.24 HEAD |
| [21:37:28] | skd5aner: | difference between the two? |
| [21:37:56] | sphery: | committing the changes will allow you to add new changes and keep separate patches for them without having to always specify which files to diff (and especially easier if you make multiple unrelated changes to the same file--need those changes in separate patch files) |
| [21:38:19] | sphery: | but committing will also mean you'll likely need to dig /much/ deeper into how git works to work well with it |
| [21:38:32] | skd5aner: | yea – not ready for that yet |
| [21:38:37] | skd5aner: | casual user at best :) |
| [21:38:40] | sphery: | If you want simple, just create the diff files and manage diffs |
| [21:38:48] | skd5aner: | yup – got it |
| [21:38:50] | sphery: | i.e. learn quilt if you like, or just manually apply them |
| [21:38:56] | skd5aner: | thanks – I'll attach it to the ticket |
| [21:39:06] | sphery: | thank you for the work on mythweb :) |
| [21:39:44] | skd5aner: | ah, no problem – something that's been bugging me for about a year, so... finally just took a little push to spend time on it |
| [21:39:58] | skd5aner: | probably no one will even notice the difference |
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| [21:46:32] | sphery: | heh, well not noticing the difference is always better than noticing--and complaining about--the difference |
| [21:46:48] | sphery: | seems most of my changes have the latter effect |
| [21:48:51] | skd5aner: | kormoc, sphery: submitted and attached patch to #9713 – off to dinner |
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| [23:36:13] | skd5aner: | kormoc: hmmm, in IE and firefox, the recorded programs page shows a data divider row for all shows recorded on a date – but it doesn't show up in chrome... and looking at the code I'm not sure why it would matter at the browser level? |
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| [23:38:15] | skd5aner: | kormoc: http://pastebin.com/nrtQRENt – that if statement is never getting processed when the page loads on chrome, but does in firefox and IE |
| [23:38:30] | skd5aner: | so that |
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| [23:38:57] | skd5aner: | er... so that <tr> never get processed or at least isn't shown in the source |
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| [23:44:35] | kormoc: | skd5aner, are you sorting differently? |
| [23:44:44] | skd5aner: | just the default |
| [23:44:51] | skd5aner: | loading the page without cache |
| [23:44:56] | skd5aner: | when I manually sort it, the rows show up |
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| [23:47:58] | skd5aner: | kormoc: working a different issue now, but I'm fixing some of the CSS so that IE9 loads it up like chrome and firefox |
| [23:48:23] | skd5aner: | I could probably make IE8 work too, but I don't really see the point even though it'll be around for several more years |
| [23:49:55] | kormoc: | hrm... that's weird (sorting) |
| [23:55:54] | skd5aner: | well, a project for next week – either way, I've got to get some other stuff done for now – later |
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| [23:59:00] | katumba1: | sphery: put that blacklist in the modprobe.d. Put the 1600 card in the box. Get: init ureadahead error main process 263 terminated with status 5. system won't boot. |
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