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| [00:03:13] | wagnerrp: | when you say '10-fold', does that mean x10 or x2**10? |
| [00:03:38] | wagnerrp: | the latter honestly makes more sense to me |
| [00:03:47] | wagnerrp: | youre... folding, or doubling, ten times |
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| [00:11:47] | ** wagnerrp wonders if Windows PVR developers are often questioned for tuner hardware support ** | |
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| [00:26:39] | stoth: | Thanks NewBuntu81 |
| [00:28:27] | stoth: | wagnerrp: nope |
| [00:28:59] | stoth: | I patched datadirect.cpp to not call for .gz and not try and unzip, all ok but something is borked in tip. |
| [00:36:39] | clever: | stoth: what was it using to unzip it? |
| [00:36:49] | stoth: | gzip |
| [00:37:08] | clever: | ah, it just called gzip directly |
| [00:37:28] | stoth: | datadirect were either delivering data in raw format or wget was decompressing on the fly, either way the gzip failed. |
| [00:37:34] | clever: | i was downloading gzip encoded stuff before with QHttp and wanted to unzip without an external process/program |
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| [00:40:19] | wagnerrp: | stoth: by 'tip', you mean 'head'? |
| [00:40:36] | stoth: | yes |
| [00:41:14] | stoth: | configuring a videosource from schedulesdirect also fails to pull my configured lineups (same problem I guess) |
| [00:41:36] | stoth: | it clone git://github.com/MythTV/mythtv.git |
| [00:41:40] | stoth: | this is head, yes? |
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| [00:45:03] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [00:45:51] | stoth: | hmm, then with ./configure --prefix=/mythtv, make make install datadirect.cpp is borked on fc14 and ubuntu 10.10 |
| [00:48:06] | stoth: | it's not clear to me whether schedulesdirect has stopped obeying requests for gzip content, maybe this is the issue. |
| [00:49:56] | NewBuntu81: | Hey stoth, do you happen to know if any work was done for the IR blaster of the HVR 2250? I wasn't sure if that was included in your work or not. |
| [00:50:08] | stoth: | NewBuntu81: nothing was done. |
| [00:51:58] | NewBuntu81: | Ok. Several of us that come on here were trying to figure out what we were doing wrong...us linux newbies. :-) |
| [00:52:35] | NewBuntu81: | If buying an IR blaster, what model do you all recommend? I saw one on x10 for about 30$. |
| [00:52:58] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: perhaps you want to explain on the wiki why people should not run their database on a RAM drive |
| [00:53:24] | ** kormoc weeks ** | |
| [00:53:35] | kormoc: | *weeps |
| [00:53:43] | ** stoth grins ** | |
| [00:53:47] | wagnerrp: | hey, i deleted it last time |
| [00:53:50] | wagnerrp: | now its your turn |
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| [00:55:33] | NewBuntu81: | ooooh, yea. whoops, power outage. |
| [00:57:03] | kormoc: | ugh... rollback doesn't allow you to comment |
| [00:57:13] | wagnerrp: | hehe |
| [00:57:24] | wagnerrp: | im sure its going to be big, use the talk page |
| [00:57:59] | NewBuntu81: | While you're at it, maybe you want to explain to my coworkers why, when on VPN at home, they should pull down a copy of files and work on them locally instead of trying to work on the file "live" over the wire...lol. and they wonder why files keep going corrupt. |
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| [01:00:54] | ugliefrog: | where do i access mytharchive? |
| [01:02:35] | ugliefrog: | found it ...i thought i could get to it from mythweb |
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| [01:22:51] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: rollback is really only intended for blatent stuff like spam, where there is no need for explanation |
| [01:23:00] | wagnerrp: | thats why its only available for admins |
| [01:23:31] | kormoc: | yeah |
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| [01:50:00] | mycosys: | wagnerrp – 10fold is 10x, no idea of etymology |
| [01:51:06] | NewBuntu81: | I have a snapstream firefly mini IR receiver. How can i tell what types of remotes I can use with that IR receiver? |
| [01:51:42] | NewBuntu81: | I read an article stating one type of IR receiver took RC5 "programming". So how would I find out what type of "programming" the snapstream firefly mini IR can take? |
| [01:54:01] | mycosys: | maybe try a LIRC channel or forum, or even more logically, the manufacturer of the device |
| [01:59:58] | wagnerrp: | mycosys: that simply makes no sense |
| [02:00:59] | mycosys: | in the context of manifold it may |
| [02:03:36] | mycosys: | also in the context of 'the fold' meaning the group |
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| [02:04:36] | wagnerrp: | ah, 10 groups rather than 10 duplications... |
| [02:04:41] | wagnerrp: | i dont like that definition :) |
| [02:04:54] | mycosys: | or fold to contain |
| [02:05:05] | mycosys: | fold in your arms |
| [02:05:11] | mycosys: | in the fold of a mountain |
| [02:06:13] | CyberKnet: | Does anyone have any idea what would cause the front end to quit with an assertion error "mythfrontend.real: cc708decoder.cpp:588: void parse_cc_packet(CC708Reader*, CaptionPacket*): Assertion `pkt_size<127' failed." ? |
| [02:06:20] | mycosys: | Origin: |
| [02:06:21] | mycosys: | before 900; Middle English fold, fald, Old English fald, falod;  akin to Old Saxon faled  pen, enclosure, Middle Low German vÄlt  pen, enclosure, manure heap, Middle Dutch vaelt, vaelde |
| [02:06:33] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has no asserts |
| [02:06:41] | wagnerrp: | so the fault lies in some 3rd party library |
| [02:07:08] | wagnerrp: | why that 3rd party library is failing is anyone's guess |
| [02:07:29] | Beirdo: | looks like ffmpeg |
| [02:07:46] | Beirdo: | i think |
| [02:07:48] | mycosys: | ffmpeg does the captioning? |
| [02:08:07] | ** Beirdo installs ubuntu on a G4 Powerbook ** | |
| [02:08:23] | ** mycosys has suse on a sawtooth ** | |
| [02:09:15] | CyberKnet: | OK – well it is crashing very frequently. I would like to get to the bottom of why. So in case I asked the wrong question ... what can I do to try to find the cause and make a best effort to figuring out how to fix it? |
| [02:09:57] | CyberKnet: | The line immediately preceeding is from 40 minutes prior |
| [02:10:35] | Beirdo: | looks like glitchy CC data perhaps? |
| [02:10:40] | CyberKnet: | it happened whilst skipping... so FFMPEG seems a likely candidate. |
| [02:11:16] | CyberKnet: | is CC data read regardless of if I have it displaying? |
| [02:11:56] | CyberKnet: | Wife says it is happening while playing back a particular file – she was trying to skip forward past something. |
| [02:13:22] | mycosys: | could try running a mythtranscode job over it to clean it up? |
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| [02:18:13] | Beirdo: | too many computers. |
| [02:18:15] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [02:19:13] | wagnerrp: | thats blasphemy |
| [02:19:45] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [02:20:15] | Beirdo: | 4 desktops, 3 laptops.. all within a 10ft radius |
| [02:20:49] | Beirdo: | plus an embedded board |
| [02:21:03] | Beirdo: | oh, and I forgot the firewall box :) |
| [02:21:14] | mycosys: | wow lol |
| [02:21:15] | wagnerrp: | do they have to be running to count? |
| [02:21:26] | Beirdo: | they are a:) |
| [02:21:27] | mycosys: | i thouthg it was bad |
| [02:21:35] | Beirdo: | and this is for one person |
| [02:21:42] | Beirdo: | and my work laptop... is at work |
| [02:22:00] | Beirdo: | and I have a little atom box in the bedroom (off) |
| [02:22:34] | wagnerrp: | desktop and laptop here, plus four other built desktops, parts in the closet for three more desktops, another desktop and two laptops downstairs, two frontends, backend, firewall |
| [02:23:08] | Beirdo: | in a few months I could possibly score a rack worth of servers for very little |
| [02:23:15] | wagnerrp: | so only 8 machines regularly on |
| [02:23:19] | Beirdo: | but I don't think I want em |
| [02:23:26] | wagnerrp: | what guts? |
| [02:23:41] | Beirdo: | old crap. Xeon of some sorts |
| [02:24:03] | Beirdo: | I don't need the electricity bill :) |
| [02:24:09] | wagnerrp: | i.e. worth stuff up at OSUOSL as build boxes, backup servers, etc.... |
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| [02:24:32] | wagnerrp: | s/stuff/stuffing/ |
| [02:24:42] | Beirdo: | it could be possible. I'll have to see when they finally get to unracking and disposing |
| [02:25:15] | Beirdo: | I'd basically have to pay residual value on stuff that's fully depreciated |
| [02:25:56] | Beirdo: | I'll keep that in mind when we get closer though |
| [02:26:06] | Beirdo: | OSU ain't that far away aither |
| [02:26:09] | Beirdo: | either |
| [02:26:28] | wagnerrp: | well... its probably a good 3–4 hours |
| [02:26:52] | Beirdo: | it's Portland, isn't it? |
| [02:27:33] | Beirdo: | oooh. Corvallis |
| [02:27:40] | Beirdo: | yeah, a bit further |
| [02:28:09] | wagnerrp: | another hour past portland it looks |
| [02:29:13] | Beirdo: | hour and a bit, yeah. |
| [02:29:38] | Beirdo: | I could probably find a way to get xris to drive down with a pile of servers should it come to that |
| [02:29:41] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [02:29:57] | Beirdo: | hehe, it's fun having no wheels |
| [02:30:22] | Beirdo: | I can use zipcar for short trips... |
| [02:30:33] | wagnerrp: | heard hes moving to Real |
| [02:30:39] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [02:30:40] | wagnerrp: | didnt know they were still a viable entity |
| [02:30:43] | Beirdo: | :( |
| [02:30:51] | Beirdo: | another coworker moving on |
| [02:31:01] | Beirdo: | yeah, apparently so ;) |
| [02:31:24] | wagnerrp: | i thought that whole DVD ripping debacle two years ago was sort of their last hurrah |
| [02:31:37] | Beirdo: | apparently not |
| [02:31:42] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [02:31:56] | Beirdo: | I'd hate to see them go... a fine Seattle company :) |
| [02:35:01] | Beirdo: | OMG, takes forever to install on a G4 :) |
| [02:35:45] | wagnerrp: | install... what? |
| [02:35:58] | Beirdo: | Ubuntu 10.10 |
| [02:36:10] | Beirdo: | I forgot to tell it to skip openoffice too |
| [02:37:03] | Beirdo: | and then I want to debootstrap lenny for my ARM board |
| [02:37:04] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [02:47:34] | wagnerrp: | im disappointed, no wiki rant |
| [02:47:59] | wagnerrp: | i was almost sure one would happen |
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| [02:59:13] | wagnerrp: | i seem to be crashing the backend by hitting the wsdl services |
| [02:59:33] | Beirdo: | Bus 003 Device 003: ID 5345:1234 Owon PDS6062T Oscilloscope |
| [02:59:36] | Beirdo: | whaaaa? |
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| [03:00:32] | Beirdo: | I have an oscilloscope... but not that one |
| [03:00:53] | Beirdo: | and the one I have... isn't plugged into the server... nor is it on |
| [03:01:05] | CyberKnet: | That's the new Kernel wishful thinking module |
| [03:01:14] | CyberKnet: | it emulates the device it thinks you would like most. |
| [03:01:44] | wagnerrp: | beirdo is a sad man if the device of his dreams is an oscilloscope... |
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| [03:02:25] | Beirdo: | I already HAVE an oscilloscope :) |
| [03:02:37] | Beirdo: | I'm confused. |
| [03:02:37] | wagnerrp: | s/an/a better/ |
| [03:02:43] | Twiggy2cents: | I was recording something, but after the recording it says 0.00gb on the frontend and the size is "B" on mythweb. When I try to play it, the frontend complains about the video not being able to be found. |
| [03:02:50] | Beirdo: | I think the actual device is my LCD/VFD device |
| [03:02:57] | Twiggy2cents: | I deleted a old episode during recording, could that of caused it? |
| [03:03:03] | wagnerrp: | Twiggy2cents: so the recording failed |
| [03:03:51] | Twiggy2cents: | yes |
| [03:04:01] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs to see why |
| [03:05:39] | Twiggy2cents: | 2011-03–22 11:30:24.188 AFD Error: Unknown audio decoding error |
| [03:05:39] | Twiggy2cents: | 2011-03–22 11:30:24.231 [ac3 @ 0x297fac0]frame sync error |
| [03:05:43] | Twiggy2cents: | Is that a playback error? |
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| [03:06:09] | wagnerrp: | looks like it |
| [03:06:18] | Twiggy2cents: | it shows up alot |
| [03:06:34] | wagnerrp: | it usually does, ignore it |
| [03:06:38] | Twiggy2cents: | okay |
| [03:07:20] | abqjp: | jya: getting rid of that /etc/asound.conf has resulted in no sound at all with speaker-test. |
| [03:07:32] | jya: | what was in it ? |
| [03:07:51] | jya: | you would get sound if you specified explictely the audio device: |
| [03:08:00] | Beirdo: | configuring mono-gac |
| [03:08:04] | Beirdo: | ugh. |
| [03:08:14] | jya: | speaker-test -c 6 -Dhdmi:CARD=Nvidia,DEV=0 |
| [03:09:08] | Twiggy2cents: | 2011-03–31 20:00:33.947 [mpeg2video @ 0x687ac0]mpeg_decode_postinit() failure |
| [03:09:12] | Twiggy2cents: | Does that mean anything? |
| [03:09:17] | Twiggy2cents: | SHould I just pastebin this? |
| [03:10:11] | abqjp: | jya speaker-test now says no such device. Still shows up in aplay though |
| [03:10:13] | wagnerrp: | if youre getting mpeg errors, then it has started recording the file |
| [03:10:21] | wagnerrp: | you cant have mpeg errors on a zero byte file |
| [03:10:39] | jya: | but what was in you /etc/asound.conf ? |
| [03:10:56] | abqjp: | http://pastebin.com/Y8t4FQJ9 |
| [03:11:19] | jya: | ah you were using device 7 by default |
| [03:12:08] | jya: | speaker-test -c 6 -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0 says no such device? |
| [03:12:23] | jya: | I made a mistake with the line before, Nvidia != NVidia |
| [03:13:22] | abqjp: | No error with that one, but no sound either. Very strange. |
| [03:13:27] | wagnerrp: | oooh yeah... segfault |
| [03:13:57] | jya: | try going trhough the DEV=1, DEV=2 etc.. |
| [03:14:11] | wagnerrp: | and this wasnt even a mythtv segfault |
| [03:14:19] | wagnerrp: | this was Qt itself faulting on cleanup |
| [03:14:25] | wagnerrp: | impressive |
| [03:14:37] | jya: | according to your asound.conf previously, you used DEV=1 |
| [03:14:53] | jya: | (hw=7) |
| [03:15:29] | foxbuntu: | jya / abqjp: aplay -L will tell you the proper device number of the HDMI port |
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| [03:15:46] | jya: | foxbuntu: really???? |
| [03:16:09] | Twiggy2cents: | http://pastebin.com/CJAkAJ7R |
| [03:16:27] | foxbuntu: | jya, plughw:CARD=Intel,DEV=3 |
| [03:16:28] | foxbuntu: | HDA Intel, HDMI 0 |
| [03:16:28] | foxbuntu: | Hardware device with all software conversions |
| [03:16:32] | Twiggy2cents: | can you take a glance at that? I grabbed the log from the starting from the end of the previous recording |
| [03:17:16] | jya: | foxbuntu: I was being sarcastic... what do you think jpabq and I have been talking about in the past few minutes ? of course we know what aplay -L is for |
| [03:18:04] | jya: | and BTW, you don't want to use a plughw device with mythtv; you can set the iec bit on it |
| [03:18:13] | foxbuntu: | jya, sorry for interupting then, it seemed like that was being over looked, I have only seen the last few lines of scrollback..my bad for offering any advice... |
| [03:18:32] | abqjp: | foxbuntu: our conversation started on a different channel, so you may have missed part of it. |
| [03:19:08] | abqjp: | jya: any DEV other than 0 and I get errors. The errors are about some config file missing. |
| [03:19:16] | jya: | abqjp: how many username do you hve on IRC ? |
| [03:19:25] | abqjp: | Two |
| [03:19:31] | jya: | why? |
| [03:19:35] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: can you access your wsdl pages? |
| [03:20:09] | abqjp: | Because I have never figured out how to get ZNC to do the right thing with only one. I use ZNC to relay |
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| [03:20:29] | jya: | try upgrading to 0.24 then ... Though I've had issues with audio corruption from time to time with those; but at least it will help troubleshooting. also make sure you install 0.24 libraries... |
| [03:20:35] | jya: | not just the drivers |
| [03:21:49] | abqjp: | ALSA 24? Okay. getting rid of that /etc/asound.conf seems to have killed my ability to get sound at all. |
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| [03:22:02] | jya: | 1.0.24 |
| [03:22:13] | jya: | abqjp: humm.. |
| [03:22:18] | jya: | do you have pulseaudio running ? |
| [03:22:27] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: never tried |
| [03:22:44] | jya: | that's the only difference your asound.conf would do: add a plug for pulse |
| [03:22:53] | abqjp: | I hope not. .... Nope. |
| [03:23:00] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: could you try http://<yourbe>:6544/Guide/wsdl |
| [03:23:06] | jya: | if you have killed pulse; it shouldn't have made a single difference |
| [03:23:08] | wagnerrp: | as long as youre not currently recording something |
| [03:23:12] | wagnerrp: | you may segfault |
| [03:24:16] | Beirdo: | I'm always recording something |
| [03:24:21] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:24:54] | Twiggy2cents: | I dont see anything in the my logs where it started recording. I see where it detected the video and audio codecs but nothing about the show being recorded |
| [03:24:57] | wagnerrp: | im going to try rebuilding from clean, and see if it still does it |
| [03:25:20] | abqjp: | jya do I need to recompile myth |
| [03:25:23] | abqjp: | ? |
| [03:25:30] | Beirdo: | not crashing, but not doing anything |
| [03:26:29] | jya: | abqjp: what for? |
| [03:26:45] | abqjp: | After install new alsa libs. |
| [03:26:46] | jya: | nothing to do with myth |
| [03:26:52] | jya: | it's purely an alsa issue right now |
| [03:27:08] | jya: | abqjp: nah... those are dynamic libraries... will be loaded at run time |
| [03:28:40] | Twiggy2cents: | okay wagnerrp, 2011-03–31 22:00:00.315 Updating status for "The Mentalist":"The Red Mile" on cardid 1 (Tuning => Recorder Failed), is this my answer or is this the effect? |
| [03:29:36] | Beirdo: | ok, I had routing issues. |
| [03:29:41] | Beirdo: | one sec, let me try again |
| [03:30:21] | Beirdo: | let's wait for Big Bang Theory to finish first |
| [03:30:26] | Beirdo: | just to be sure |
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| [03:32:00] | Beirdo: | yup, it crashed |
| [03:33:39] | wagnerrp: | and your recording? |
| [03:33:57] | abqjp: | jya: 1.0.24 is working better. I have sound, and the speakers are ordered correctly. |
| [03:34:17] | Beirdo: | and it won't start up again |
| [03:34:19] | jya: | interesting |
| [03:34:19] | Beirdo: | grrr |
| [03:34:34] | jya: | 1.0.23 works fine with my 1.0.23 |
| [03:34:43] | jya: | what does cat /proc/asound/version shows? |
| [03:34:58] | jya: | with my GT220 I mean |
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| [03:35:16] | abqjp: | Interesting. It says 1.0.23 |
| [03:35:21] | jya: | I found that with my GT220, with 1.0.24, I get sound corruption every once in a while |
| [03:35:29] | jya: | yeah, so it's just the library that made a difference |
| [03:35:41] | jya: | not the drivers, keep 1.0.23 drivers then |
| [03:36:13] | jya: | typically, every day or so, with 1.0.24 drivers, the audio coming out of GT220 sounds like coming under water. I must reboot |
| [03:36:16] | abqjp: | Speaker test works *inside of myth*, but I don't get any sound when I actually watch a show. |
| [03:36:18] | Beirdo: | had to actually rename config.xml |
| [03:36:19] | jya: | it doesn't occur with 1.0.23 |
| [03:36:20] | Beirdo: | pfft |
| [03:36:26] | Beirdo: | OK, running again |
| [03:36:45] | jya: | abqjp: uh? are you actually saving your changes? |
| [03:37:10] | jya: | the speaker-test does the same thing playback would do, no way you would have sound in one , but not another |
| [03:37:13] | abqjp: | When I watch a show that is DD5.1, my pre-amp is saying 7.1. Is myth doing the dolby digitial decode even when timestretch is off? |
| [03:37:34] | jya: | abqjp: only if you haven't checked AC3 in the settings |
| [03:37:47] | jya: | or if audio processing is required |
| [03:37:58] | jya: | like needing resampling, upmixing etc.. |
| [03:38:13] | jya: | in which case, normally audio would have been decompressed, then recompressed as AC3 |
| [03:38:29] | jya: | because your system supports multi-channels PCM, there's no need to recompress |
| [03:38:38] | jya: | as not only it's faster, but it also sounds better |
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| [03:39:05] | abqjp: | TRied telling myth I only have 5.1 instead of 7.1, but that didn't make a difference. |
| [03:39:44] | jya: | yeah, when you ran speaker-test -c 6 ; it should have showed 5.1 |
| [03:40:01] | jya: | my amp only says "multichannels PCM" |
| [03:40:10] | jya: | and it lights up the appropriate speaker as required |
| [03:40:40] | abqjp: | Yes, speaker-test outside of myth shows 5.1 with -c 6 |
| [03:40:41] | jya: | looks like any multichannels audio on your hdmi link, no matter the channel count is shown as 7.1 |
| [03:40:57] | jya: | then if you selected 5.1 in the speaker configuration |
| [03:41:01] | jya: | so will myth |
| [03:41:29] | jya: | remember that you must go to the end of the configuration screen with Next then Save |
| [03:42:11] | jya: | abqjp: post the output of only such DD 5.1 playback with -v audio please |
| [03:43:10] | abqjp: | I told myth 5.1, and my pre-amp is now showing 5.1. No sound though. log coming up. |
| [03:46:28] | jya: | even in the speaker-test? |
| [03:47:10] | Beirdo: | sigh. so installing a sid chroot under ubuntu :) |
| [03:47:12] | jya: | that's one of the issue I had with my GT220; when you changed the number of speakers like that: one minute you would get sound, the next you didn't. Until you closed the audio card or power-cycle the amp |
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| [03:58:34] | abqjp: | jya: http://pastebin.com/bYxzXKXG |
| [03:59:17] | abqjp: | I tried rebooting just to make sure. speaker-test *in* myth produces sound. But when watching a show, I don't get any sound, and my pre-amp says it is getting PCM instead of Dolby Digital. |
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| [03:59:50] | abqjp: | Inteesting. If I turn time-stretch on, then I get sound. |
| [04:01:36] | jya: | abqjp: from the log, everything is fine |
| [04:01:58] | jya: | in the Audio setup -> Advanced: check the 48k spdif flag (not the 48k resample) |
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| [04:03:55] | jya: | abqjp: if you turn time-stretch on, then the AC3 stream is decoded, and passed as 6 channels PCM |
| [04:05:10] | jya: | my GT220 did this sometimes with my amp.. I got a GT430 since, all problems gone :) |
| [04:05:58] | abqjp: | Turned on the 48k spdif. Still no sound ---- except I left it "playing" for several seconds and it eventually gave me some stucco sound, like it is trying to pass Dolby Digital — but the pre-amp thinks it is receiving PCM. |
| [04:07:00] | abqjp: | Hard to find a GT430 that is fanless and not too tall. My case can take a "full size" card, but *just* and some cards are too tall. |
| [04:07:45] | jya: | abqjp: hdmi can take a while to get a lock |
| [04:07:53] | jya: | when I change the audio format for my amp |
| [04:07:57] | CyberKnet: | any pcregrep gurus here? |
| [04:08:00] | jya: | it can take 4–5s to get sound again |
| [04:08:04] | abqjp: | That is it. If I wait, it eventually figures it out. |
| [04:08:16] | jya: | abqjp: most GT430 are half-height |
| [04:08:23] | jya: | they are *much* smaller card than GT220 |
| [04:08:32] | abqjp: | But with fans, right? |
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| [04:09:26] | jya: | yes.. doesn't bother me... mine is *completely* silent |
| [04:09:44] | CyberKnet: | I've never met the fan that was completely silent. hmmm. |
| [04:09:50] | jya: | all I hear in my PC is the air displacement due to the power supply |
| [04:09:52] | CyberKnet: | well, the fan that didn't run, yes. |
| [04:09:56] | jya: | which in itself is virtually silent |
| [04:10:45] | jya: | abqjp: if you get audio after a few seconds, then uncheck that 48k spdif flag |
| [04:10:49] | CyberKnet: | I just moved my combined fe/be to a different room with an HDMI over Cat-5 extender (and a USB over Cat-5 extender). works great fwiw. totally silent in the tv-watching-room. |
| [04:10:51] | jya: | and let it run |
| [04:11:10] | jya: | as I said, with hdmi it can take a little while to get a proper lock |
| [04:12:22] | abqjp: | I seem to have to do a "speaker-test" outside of myth to initialize audio after a reboot. If I don't, I loose my sound. I have had a "speaker-test --test wav --speaker 1" in my /etc/rc.d/rc.local to fix that, but if you know of a better solution I would love to know it. |
| [04:13:36] | abqjp: | jya: yeah, that is working now. Thank you VERY much for your help. |
| [04:14:17] | jya: | abqjp: speaker-test before should be completely unecessary |
| [04:14:27] | jya: | it makes no difference |
| [04:14:42] | jya: | except may be give you the impression that more time have passed |
| [04:14:46] | jya: | got to run |
| [04:14:50] | jya: | I forgot to pick my daughter |
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| [04:17:44] | abqjp: | I am actually guessing it is a permission problem. |
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| [05:02:59] | mycosys: | wagnerrrp – should a HVR-1600 or PVR-500 be producing .nuv files? |
| [05:03:08] | BobLfoot: | could use some suggestions as to what might be mis-setup. i can record any channel using myth and get an *.mpg file. only the non-HD channelsmpg file will play in myth or vlc when I try and watch. If I mythtranscode *.mpg --mpeg2 *.nuv then I can play all *.nuv with vlc. Must be some setting wrong in my myth setup that I can't watch live or recorded HD programming? |
| [05:04:02] | BobLfoot: | mycosys: my HVR-1600 produced mpg files under Fedora13 and myth0.23 until after they transcoded to *.nuv |
| [05:04:31] | mycosys: | using the analog section? |
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| [05:05:12] | wagnerrp: | mycosys: no |
| [05:05:20] | BobLfoot: | mycosys: yes even analog where mpg to start and only became nuv after transcode. Any chance you set it up auto-transcode after recording? |
| [05:05:22] | wagnerrp: | no nuvs from either of those |
| [05:05:28] | wagnerrp: | they /can/ if you use the correct device node |
| [05:05:37] | wagnerrp: | but that node is not /dev/video0 |
| [05:05:47] | wagnerrp: | you will get nuvs if you run a lossy transcode on them |
| [05:07:19] | mycosys: | dude on the mythbuntu channel had unstable backend – was crashin all the time, says stable but not recording at all, was producing nuvs from those 2 |
| [05:07:42] | mycosys: | says he followed the hvr-1600 page on mythtv wiki, apart from hg download (thank god) |
| [05:09:50] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: I am thinking my plauback issue is in Fedora and not myth since both myth and vlc have problems playing the mpegs generated by HD Channels? |
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| [05:10:54] | jya: | abqjp: is timestretch still broken ? |
| [05:15:57] | wagnerrp: | mycosys: the only way you would get nuvs straight from a PVR-150 or HVR-1600 is if you are either running a very old version of mythtv, or you intentionally did something very stupid |
| [05:16:18] | wagnerrp: | i wouldnt put it past people to do either |
| [05:16:33] | mycosys: | apparently he is transcoding everything, on a ruddy p4 |
| [05:16:38] | mycosys: | to NUV |
| [05:16:55] | wagnerrp: | well transcoding SD content isnt all that hard |
| [05:17:02] | mycosys: | have already told him it is cheaper to buy hdds |
| [05:17:07] | wagnerrp: | but using mythtranscode for lossy transcodes is just stupid |
| [05:17:24] | mycosys: | care to amplify? |
| [05:17:30] | mycosys: | he is on trunk btw |
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| [05:17:41] | wagnerrp: | got a link? |
| [05:17:56] | wagnerrp: | oh, channel, not forum |
| [05:17:59] | mycosys: | ? is in #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [05:18:03] | mycosys: | can pastebin? |
| [05:18:46] | wagnerrp: | nah, im not going to butt in on a channel like that |
| [05:18:59] | mycosys: | why is it stupid to use mythtrancode for lossy transcode (jus curious – not remotely planning to) |
| [05:19:17] | mycosys: | nah – meant pastebin so i can pass on what u say if u like, or u can go in |
| [05:19:26] | mycosys: | or i can send him here? |
| [05:19:33] | wagnerrp: | because mythtranscode will only do mp3 audio, and rtjpeg or mpeg4asp video |
| [05:19:36] | zuixro: | mycosys I'm already here |
| [05:19:52] | mycosys: | ouch |
| [05:19:54] | wagnerrp: | neither video codec is very efficient |
| [05:20:05] | wagnerrp: | if youre going for space, you would want h264, which mythtranscode cannot do |
| [05:20:25] | wagnerrp: | if youre going for playback on mobile devices, you would want h264, which has vastly better support |
| [05:20:45] | wagnerrp: | and if you use mythtranscode, youre stuck with nuvs, which are not readily playable outside of mythfrontend |
| [05:20:57] | zuixro: | wagnerrp I've looked at doing that but there's not a good way to do it, and last I checked it wouldn't play back under "Watch Recordings" |
| [05:21:07] | mycosys: | isnt the advantage of mp4avc that it needs minimal decode/encode power? |
| [05:21:12] | wagnerrp: | not a good way to do what? |
| [05:21:34] | mycosys: | in place trancode i am guessing rofl |
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| [05:21:45] | zuixro: | to transcode to h.264 straight from myth, I mean I could set up a user job to do it, but it won't playback easily |
| [05:22:09] | wagnerrp: | there are plenty of user made scripts laying around, plus ive got a transcode wrapper, all you have to do is supply the command |
| [05:22:23] | wagnerrp: | even a lowly P4 should be able to handle SD h264 |
| [05:22:23] | mycosys: | is this machine a backend, or a combined back/frontend? |
| [05:22:31] | zuixro: | Combined |
| [05:22:37] | wagnerrp: | but youre going to wast so much power converting to h264 OR mpeg4asp |
| [05:22:41] | zuixro: | and it can handle SD h.264 |
| [05:22:45] | wagnerrp: | that you would be better off just purchasing more hard drive space |
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| [05:23:01] | wagnerrp: | and letting the machine go into standby instead |
| [05:23:17] | zuixro: | this is all beside the point of my original problem, backend has been all crashy since I went to the lastest -fixes build |
| [05:23:32] | wagnerrp: | do you have core dumps? |
| [05:23:47] | wagnerrp: | debugging a crash is difficult without a core dump |
| [05:23:55] | wagnerrp: | we at least need verbose logging around the point of the crash |
| [05:24:04] | jpabq: | jya, I believe that getting myth configured to send out LPCM instead of re-encoded Dolby Digital as fixed the problem with occupationally garbage coming out of my left *side* speaker. I have not watched enough to be positive, though. |
| [05:24:08] | zuixro: | yeah, I think I'll just wait for the next -fixes build... |
| [05:24:13] | jpabq: | s/as/has/ |
| [05:24:32] | jpabq: | s/occupationally/occasional/ |
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| [05:25:51] | wagnerrp: | zuixro: what is going on around the time of the crashes? |
| [05:25:59] | wagnerrp: | is it during recording? is it during transcoding? |
| [05:26:11] | wagnerrp: | is it only ever the backend that crashes, or do other applications crash? |
| [05:26:24] | zuixro: | wagnerrp Just recordings. I end up with 4 files or so before the backend just crashes and doesn't restart |
| [05:26:39] | zuixro: | it's crashing and relaunching itself it looks like |
| [05:27:21] | wagnerrp: | if the backend crashes and is restarted during a recording, it will automatically pick up recording where it left off, on a new file |
| [05:27:39] | zuixro: | Yeah, that's what it's doing, but it does it 4 or 5 times per recording |
| [05:28:09] | wagnerrp: | could you dump your backend logs in a pastebin? |
| [05:28:41] | zuixro: | I actually just ran it --verbose all and I'm pastebining it now |
| [05:28:41] | jya: | jpabq: still need to find out why you would get garbage when stereo pcm is checked |
| [05:29:04] | jya: | was it always happening with timestretch on? or only from time to time ? |
| [05:29:20] | zuixro: | wagnerrp http://pastebin.com/2Sacncr2 |
| [05:30:12] | zuixro: | How far back do you want logs haha? |
| [05:30:32] | jpabq: | only from time to time. Basically it sound like a little bit of warped audio, that was probably intended for one of the front speakers (probably the left), but it ends up coming out of the side left speaker instead. It can be several minutes between instances, though. |
| [05:31:14] | wagnerrp: | i need to see an instance of the crash |
| [05:31:16] | jya: | weird. Can't think why it would do that. If it was due to a recent change, it would be an all or nothing thing. either it works or it doesn't at all |
| [05:31:40] | zuixro: | Here's the logs for the last hour or so, about 5 crashes I think http://pastebin.com/0rP0f6z0 |
| [05:35:08] | jpabq: | jya, it started after I upgraded to master a couple of weeks ago. Before that, I was running a version from end of January / beginning of February. If you don't know of anything that could cause it, I suppose I could try to go back and see if I can determine when it started. Unfortunately, schema changes and protocol changes have happened since then — which make sit painful to do on my production machine. |
| [05:35:38] | wagnerrp: | zuixro: any idea what the memory consumption of the backend is prior to a crash? |
| [05:36:22] | zuixro: | wagnerrp I'll try to see if I can trigger it and watch top |
| [05:37:05] | wagnerrp: | how much memory do you have? |
| [05:37:11] | zuixro: | 1GB |
| [05:37:17] | wagnerrp: | any swap? |
| [05:37:31] | zuixro: | I don't know off the top of my head, but I think so |
| [05:37:58] | wagnerrp: | run 'top', there should be your amount of swap listed at the bottom of the first block |
| [05:38:03] | mycosys: | bad allocation error :S |
| [05:38:26] | zuixro: | Swap: 4882428k total, 297216k used, 4585212k free, 590676k cached |
| [05:39:08] | wagnerrp: | well thats certainly an odd amount of swap |
| [05:39:24] | wagnerrp: | especially considering youre not actually going to be able to use more than maybe 2.5GB of it |
| [05:39:28] | zuixro: | I don't remember if I set that or what |
| [05:39:43] | wagnerrp: | but at least you shouldnt be running out of memory |
| [05:39:47] | zuixro: | haha yeah |
| [05:40:23] | clever: | wagnerrp: why cant you use more then 2.5g of it? |
| [05:40:31] | clever: | per-process you mean? |
| [05:40:54] | wagnerrp: | well unless hes running a PAE kernel, which opens up a whole new can of worms |
| [05:40:58] | clever: | and yeah, 4gig is too much |
| [05:41:49] | zuixro: | yeah mythbackend's memory use spiked when I started recording, over 750MB but it hasn't crashed yet |
| [05:42:08] | wagnerrp: | the backend should not be consuming anything like that, even when recording |
| [05:42:42] | zuixro: | looks like it just crashed |
| [05:42:47] | clever: | wagnerrp: whats causing that 2.5gig limit? |
| [05:43:26] | wagnerrp: | clever: hes got a GB of memory, a video card, and assorted other IO mapping consuming address space |
| [05:43:34] | wagnerrp: | 2.5GB of swap was a rough guess |
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| [05:44:03] | zuixro: | Yeah, plus 32bit. didn't think about that when I was partitioning. I think I just threw whatever I had left at swap |
| [05:44:03] | clever: | i thought swap was unlimited |
| [05:44:23] | clever: | its just a matter of having enough processes, since a 32bit cpu can only use 3gig max per proc |
| [05:44:34] | wagnerrp: | youre still limited to the 32-bit address space, unless youre using a PAE kernel |
| [05:44:53] | mycosys: | wouldnt matter would it – he has a 32bit cpu |
| [05:45:16] | wagnerrp: | mycosys: PAE allows you to swap in new pages of memory |
| [05:45:26] | wagnerrp: | so you can have gobs of memory, in 4GB blocks at a time |
| [05:45:36] | wagnerrp: | a single program would not be able to exceed that block |
| [05:45:44] | mycosys: | what would happen if the drive couldnt keep up with the data stream? massive buffering or? ie if it was PIO |
| [05:45:55] | wagnerrp: | so it would be limited to whatever the user partition is in that block |
| [05:46:01] | wagnerrp: | which on linux, is typically 3GB |
| [05:46:19] | wagnerrp: | if the drive couldnt keep up, the disk writer would block |
| [05:46:27] | clever: | wagnerrp: i thought that it could just swap out to an unlimited ammount of swap, and was limited to 3gig/1gig split for user/kernel |
| [05:46:40] | wagnerrp: | it has a short sync look specifically to prevent a large buffer from building up |
| [05:46:55] | clever: | 3gig per process with 1gig ram and 4g swap means 2 whole processes maxing out the user-space to consume it all |
| [05:47:54] | clever: | i dont see how PAE effects swap, just ram and ram-like devices |
| [05:48:00] | jya: | jpabq: if you were to just check again the Stereo PCM only ; it would go back to the same setup you had before (but working) |
| [05:48:12] | jya: | then you can see what's going on with the audio corruption |
| [05:48:18] | wagnerrp: | i thought it affected everything |
| [05:48:52] | clever: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension makes it look like its only for converting virtual->psysical addresses |
| [05:49:00] | clever: | allowing up to a 52bit psysical address |
| [05:49:02] | jpabq: | jya, I will try that, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. Thanks again for the help in getting LPCM working. |
| [05:49:20] | jya: | didn't do much, was just a matter of upgrading alsa :) |
| [05:50:32] | clever: | it looks like its still limited to a 4gig address space per process (split however the kernel wants), but can map that anywhere in a much larger psysical ram space |
| [05:52:16] | zuixro: | Ok, well thanks for your help, but I gotta go to bed. It's almost 2am. |
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| [06:15:20] | Izarie: | Hi !!! |
| [06:16:07] | mycosys: | hi |
| [06:16:10] | mycosys: | wassup |
| [06:16:28] | Izarie: | Do you know what the problem could be if I get "Error opening jump program file" on my second front end. I have the TV on my server, and videos on my second computer front end...(I had TV before) but now, I get this message on my client when I start livetv |
| [06:16:46] | Izarie: | fine, except that I don't understand errors messages on mythtv :) |
| [06:17:14] | Izarie: | and that I was awake by this fucking neigbour dog at 7am.. |
| [06:17:16] | Izarie: | :) |
| [06:20:04] | wagnerrp: | watch your language in this channel |
| [06:21:33] | Izarie: | oups, bot ? |
| [06:21:43] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [06:22:02] | Izarie: | i thought it was automatic bot... |
| [06:22:04] | Izarie: | sorry |
| [06:22:13] | Izarie: | didn't know my sentence was not correct |
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| [06:55:37] | wagnerrp: | sphery: oh no! xkcd has gone... 3D |
| [06:56:24] | clever: | wagnerrp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ4r8Rc5aus |
| [06:57:16] | clever: | whoa, it follows the mouse |
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| [06:57:50] | wagnerrp: | yeah, its the same effect as the github 404 page |
| [06:58:14] | clever: | wait a sec, its not just the latest comic |
| [06:58:24] | clever: | http://xkcd.com/879/ does it also |
| [06:58:29] | wagnerrp: | they all do |
| [06:59:12] | clever: | did he go thru and mark the order for every single frame, or write code to find borders?? |
| [06:59:59] | wagnerrp: | dont know |
| [07:00:24] | clever: | yeah i thought so, http://xkcd.com/556/ screws it up |
| [07:00:38] | clever: | its trying to find edges between objects, to move whole objects |
| [07:00:46] | clever: | and the faded bg is messing with it |
| [07:00:53] | wagnerrp: | theres a whole lot of them that dont render correctly |
| [07:01:24] | clever: | yeah, any with large chunks of grey |
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| [07:02:14] | clever: | http://xkcd.com/xk3d/ |
| [07:02:24] | clever: | ah, i think he is having to mark corners |
| [07:02:53] | clever: | he ran a script to auto-find corners, and is asking for people to fix it:P |
| [07:03:38] | clever: | 'davean, chromakode, and okayzed spent yesterday building a system to convert xkcd to 3D. okayzed's computer vision algorithms try to automatically break the comics into layers, but sometimes they make mistakes!' |
| [07:04:38] | wagnerrp: | so youtube has gone sepiatone? |
| [07:05:16] | clever: | the bit at the start of his video was always like that |
| [07:05:24] | clever: | its the trick with the 555 timer |
| [07:05:35] | clever: | tune it to 55.5khz and it generates a modulated 55.5hz freq |
| [07:05:53] | wagnerrp: | no, go to the youtube frontpage |
| [07:06:35] | ** clever looks ** | |
| [07:07:04] | clever: | looks normal |
| [07:07:47] | wagnerrp: | scroll to the bottom half of the page |
| [07:08:24] | clever: | just a giant white hole in the page |
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| [07:09:51] | clever: | wagnerrp: whole thing is fine on chrome also |
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| [07:12:00] | wagnerrp: | add 'vintage=1911' to any video |
| [07:13:14] | clever: | ah, now i see it |
| [07:13:24] | clever: | on images, video looks un-altered |
| [07:14:26] | wagnerrp: | maybe only some have been reprocessed |
| [07:14:49] | wagnerrp: | there is no audio, its sepiatone, there are pocks and scratch marks all over the video |
| [07:14:52] | [R]: | wagnerrp: so i was pissed that they rearranged the channel numbers.. but they all make sense now... and i just finished updating my db... so i'm content for now |
| [07:14:58] | clever: | ive seen a demo before of reprocessing <video> tags in real-time with javascript and a <canvas> |
| [07:15:14] | clever: | js can basicaly screen-cap the <video>, loop over every pixel, and paste to the canvas |
| [07:16:07] | wagnerrp: | im sure thats horrendously inefficient |
| [07:16:15] | wagnerrp: | it may actually be slower than flash in playing video |
| [07:16:34] | clever: | the video itself still plays at normal rate, so you may wind up missing half the frames |
| [07:16:46] | clever: | let me see if i can find it |
| [07:17:14] | clever: | wagnerrp: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Manipulating_video_using_canvas |
| [07:17:24] | wagnerrp: | thinkgeek is selling bonsai kittens |
| [07:18:11] | clever: | the live example https://developer.mozilla.org/samples/video/c . . . /index.xhtml |
| [07:18:27] | clever: | doesnt seem to work in chrome |
| [07:18:46] | clever: | but it does in firefox |
| [07:18:51] | clever: | yellow-screen effect |
| [07:19:07] | clever: | and damn, it actualy works full speed, even on this netbook! |
| [07:19:30] | wagnerrp: | baby puke yellow is the new 'green screen'? |
| [07:19:52] | clever: | they probly just used a nearby non-white wall |
| [07:24:24] | clever: | wagnerrp: did you see the nether portal? |
| [07:24:55] | wagnerrp: | yes, but having never played minecraft... i didnt really get it |
| [07:25:04] | clever: | i tried once |
| [07:25:13] | clever: | keyboard completely failed when it had focus |
| [07:25:24] | clever: | couldnt even alt+tab or walk ingame |
| [07:33:07] | justinh: | bwahahahaha Google Motion. Not as funny as their broadband over toilet pipe scheme though |
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| [07:51:00] | wagnerrp: | justinh: the sad thing... microsoft thinks thats how people want to interact with computers |
| [07:51:06] | wagnerrp: | the disturbing thing.... theyre right |
| [07:52:14] | ** justinh looks at his mouse & picks it up, as if to speak into it.. ** | |
| [07:52:31] | wagnerrp: | just use the keyboard... |
| [07:53:06] | clever: | only thing i use the mouse for now is firefox and copy/paste for the most part |
| [07:53:16] | justinh: | ah. tell the computer what I want to do by talking into the underside of the mouse, then if it doesn't comply I whack it with the keyboard til it relents? |
| [07:53:27] | clever: | and even then, i use alot of shortcut keys in firefox |
| [07:54:44] | justinh: | the problem with gesture based input is.. well.. I think most of us have seen Minority Report lol |
| [07:54:52] | wagnerrp: | indeed |
| [07:55:01] | wagnerrp: | http://okcancel.com/comic/3.html |
| [07:55:43] | clever: | lol |
| [07:56:18] | wagnerrp: | reportedly tom cruise was exhausted just acting out those short scenes with the interface |
| [07:56:38] | justinh: | yeah but in fairness he only 'does' running, officially |
| [07:57:27] | wagnerrp: | http://catb.org/jargon/html/G/gorilla-arm.html |
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| [07:57:59] | justinh: | heheheheh |
| [07:58:42] | justinh: | come to think... I have first hand experience of this.. operating a hand puppet in front of a baby to entertain them.. any more than a few minutes.. oy |
| [07:59:25] | clever: | lol |
| [07:59:44] | wagnerrp: | trying to work for any amount of time on something above your head has the same effect |
| [07:59:59] | wagnerrp: | screwing something into the rafters or similar |
| [08:00:07] | clever: | yeah |
| [08:00:24] | clever: | ive had the same problem running network lines over the fiber-glass tiles |
| [08:00:39] | wagnerrp: | every minute or two, you have to drop your arms down to your sides just to let the blood start flowing properly again |
| [08:01:08] | clever: | its nowhere near at bad as that time i found a 486sx in the trash |
| [08:01:12] | justinh: | aye, plus it'll get annoying hearing the whooshing sounds coming from your speakers after a while |
| [08:01:24] | clever: | i carried the thing all the way home, and then couldnt lift my arms over my head for 2 days |
| [08:01:27] | wagnerrp: | any climber will tell you never grab for anything higher than your shoulders |
| [08:01:38] | clever: | it was kinda like a mac, crt, psu, 'tower', all in one |
| [08:05:55] | justinh: | "This issue was down to a third party program and was resolved with |
| [08:05:56] | justinh: | assistance off-list. |
| [08:06:03] | justinh: | ".. Yup. Figures |
| [08:06:52] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [08:07:05] | wagnerrp: | in other words, 'the other guy hooked me up with free tv' |
| [08:07:42] | wagnerrp: | of course if anyone were to respond as such |
| [08:08:02] | justinh: | I doubt it was free. nobody's yet cracked that open. it's a combo of legit card & the stuff they're not supposed to do w.r.t. their T&Cs |
| [08:08:06] | wagnerrp: | the rest of the mailing list would descend upon them, angry that someone would falsely accuse someone else of a crime |
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| [08:08:45] | justinh: | it's grey enough that you don't want to test it ;-) |
| [08:08:52] | wagnerrp: | man that so pissed me off back in december |
| [08:09:01] | wagnerrp: | there was nothing gray about it |
| [08:09:25] | wagnerrp: | the guy had the offending files right in the screenshot |
| [08:09:31] | justinh: | oh yeah that one |
| [08:09:39] | justinh: | I was still talking about Mr Sky |
| [08:09:51] | wagnerrp: | so i called him on it, 'dont discuss such things on the mailing list', he took down the evidence, and the users pounced |
| [08:10:03] | justinh: | yeah I remember that one all too well |
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| [08:10:26] | justinh: | the 'f' word was used.. it was heading towards a Godwin outcome |
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| [08:12:09] | wagnerrp: | had a big email written up, ready to send in private to all involved parties |
| [08:12:16] | wagnerrp: | but others intervened and the thread died |
| [08:16:41] | justinh: | oh boy, seems some ML users are now doing telephone support. God help them |
| [08:17:42] | wagnerrp: | telephone support? must have missed that one |
| [08:17:56] | wagnerrp: | what thread? |
| [08:18:02] | justinh: | "Special thanks to a certain list member who also let me call him and |
| [08:18:03] | justinh: | troubleshoot the database issues last night" |
| [08:18:05] | clever: | it could always be april fools |
| [08:18:08] | justinh: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/476397 |
| [08:18:15] | clever: | play that rick roll song on the phone:P |
| [08:19:06] | wagnerrp: | oh, i thought you were talking about mythphone |
| [08:19:38] | clever: | na, just send them to a voice mail box or answering machine with a recrding of the song |
| [08:19:46] | justinh: | clever: even the UK census forms got Rick-rolled http://daveschneider.co.uk/2011/03/census-continued/ |
| [08:19:49] | clever: | the instant they hear it, they know theyve been had |
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| [08:21:31] | wagnerrp: | oh if only that werent photoshopped |
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| [08:22:16] | clever: | lol |
| [08:34:35] | justinh: | in another ML post, somebody said they 'picked up a couple of HDPVRs' but hadn't yet got round to setting them up. Drop a few hundred big ones on kit, and it's just sitting doing nothing... pfft |
| [08:35:49] | justinh: | oh btw I had an actual question I needed to ask about custom recording rules |
| [08:36:52] | justinh: | if you want it to record a program.title LIKE "%foo%" AND channel.name="bar" but only within a certain time period what's the terminology? I couldn't find a reference on the wiki |
| [08:38:05] | clever: | i'm guessing something to do with program.starttime |
| [08:38:38] | clever: | time(program.starttime) >= "4:00" AND TIME(program.starttime) <= "6:00" i think |
| [08:38:50] | justinh: | I tried program.title="Click" AND channel.name="BBC News" AND HOUR(program.starttime) < 6 AND HOUR(program.starttime) > 4 but that didn't seem to work |
| [08:39:41] | clever: | that would only record things on at 5am |
| [08:39:51] | clever: | 5am to 5:59am |
| [08:39:55] | justinh: | duh! |
| [08:40:10] | justinh: | ahh.. my logic was a bit flawed. thanks :) |
| [08:40:38] | clever: | yeah, hour() and <= >= would work the same as my example |
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| [08:44:45] | justinh: | hmm not showing anything in 'upcoming' |
| [08:47:00] | justinh: | aha |
| [08:47:14] | justinh: | AND HOUR(program.starttime) < 6 is getting it |
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| [08:50:50] | justinh: | add a DAYNAME="Sunday" and it's good to go! marvellous |
| [08:51:03] | justinh: | try doing that with yer fricken Topfield PVR :P |
| [08:51:34] | justinh: | seriously must get around to negating the need for users to know mysql to do that in mythfrontend though |
| [08:55:36] | clever: | ive had another problem that ive never gotten solved |
| [08:55:50] | clever: | a daily show, i think 4 re-runs per 24 hours |
| [08:56:01] | clever: | no subtitle/descrition |
| [08:56:24] | clever: | the problem, is that due to timezones, those 4 reruns are spread over 2 local days |
| [08:56:42] | clever: | so record 1 per day may get the 1st rerun today, and the 2nd rerun tomorow, then completely skip a new episode |
| [08:57:09] | clever: | its airing like 111 | 1222 | 2333 | 3444 .... |
| [08:58:12] | clever: | the only fix i can see, is to add/subtrack an hour count, before comparing the date of 2 airings |
| [08:58:28] | clever: | which i dont think can be done thru the custom SQL rules |
| [08:59:13] | clever: | best i could do is block out one slot, forcing it to only pick from the other 3 matching slots |
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| [09:23:10] | justinh: | that'd be a very edgy case, clever. very edgy indeed |
| [09:23:24] | justinh: | not sure any of us would want to use a scheduler with that level of control |
| [09:27:32] | clever: | seems fairly common to me, a daily show airing in another timezone |
| [09:27:49] | clever: | so one 'day' worth of reruns winds up spanning 2 local days |
| [09:37:53] | justinh: | do you live in 2 different timezones? :-O |
| [09:38:36] | clever: | nope |
| [09:38:46] | clever: | but the channel is based in a different zone |
| [09:39:24] | clever: | i live on the far east coast, so yeah, in a way i am an 'edge' case |
| [09:41:03] | clever: | the timezones go all the way from -3.5 to -8, and i live in -4, so the 'worst case' channel will be offset 4 hours from local |
| [09:41:55] | justinh: | a good call to use 'this channel' type rules, then :) |
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| [09:42:43] | justinh: | as much as they're not encouraged – but it seems like your problems are similar to those we have here, where shows currently aired on main channels are repeated *often* on other channels |
| [09:43:09] | clever: | na, in this case, all 4 reruns are on the same channel, it almost never airs on other channels |
| [09:43:14] | justinh: | e.g. Top Gear.. currently on BBC2, but very old reruns are shown ad nauseum on 'Dave' and its hour timeshifted variant Dave Ja Vu |
| [09:43:25] | justinh: | so what's the problem then? |
| [09:43:28] | clever: | it airs 4 times per day so you can catch it at whatever timeslot is good for you |
| [09:43:44] | clever: | but due to timezones, 3 of those slots are in one day, and one slot is another day |
| [09:43:56] | justinh: | I don't get where the problem is |
| [09:44:10] | clever: | 0111 | 1222 | 2333 | 3444, if you look at this patern, 4 airings per day, with episodes numbered |
| [09:44:21] | justinh: | still don't get it |
| [09:44:24] | justinh: | oh wait |
| [09:44:26] | justinh: | ah |
| [09:44:32] | justinh: | so *their* day is offset |
| [09:44:35] | clever: | yes |
| [09:44:47] | clever: | the scheduler may pick episode 1 and 1, on the 1st and second day |
| [09:45:23] | justinh: | then I'll say you need MOARTUNRZ |
| [09:45:26] | clever: | record the 4th slot on the 1st day, and the 1st slot on the 2nd day, because 'once a day' rules are dumb |
| [09:45:26] | justinh: | :D |
| [09:45:48] | justinh: | still though, it's a pretty rare case IMHO |
| [09:45:52] | clever: | the best fix i can think of, is to enter a per-channel offset, to fix 'once a day' rules |
| [09:46:13] | justinh: | that'd prolly do it |
| [09:47:27] | justinh: | folks here tend to discourage 'on this channel' recording rules, but using xmltv or EIT (AFAIK) means |
| [09:47:35] | justinh: | 'new' episodes aren't always marked as such |
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| [11:58:53] | emunson: | I am having trouble with a new mythtv install and a Hauppage HVR-1600, the kernel fails to setup the card but it isn't the vmalloc issue or an IRQ problem (those are all I can find with google) |
| [11:59:04] | emunson: | dmesg output here: http://pastebin.com/MsBUAAQ3 |
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| [12:02:35] | justinh: | that's more one for #linuxtv |
| [12:12:35] | emunson: | justinh: thanks, will do |
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| [13:51:22] | seeker: | If you have a dedicated backend, does the type of content you are playing have any effect on thehardware requirements? |
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| [13:52:05] | seeker: | Or has it just got to be fast enough to read the disk and push stuff over the network? |
| [13:52:29] | justinh: | the latter |
| [13:53:55] | seeker: | Tempted to build a separate backend with software raid 5 using a cheap CPU/mobi |
| [13:54:00] | seeker: | *mobo |
| [13:58:44] | seeker: | Anything to be aware of if I do? |
| [13:59:08] | justinh: | other than cheap motherboards are generally to be avoided, not really. YMMV |
| [13:59:51] | justinh: | and that there's really no point in using raid for teevee crap :) (IMHO) |
| [14:00:14] | justinh: | anything worth keeping is worth backing up, not putting on a RAID array |
| [14:01:08] | seeker: | It's not valuable stuff, just a pain to rip again if I lose it |
| [14:01:38] | justinh: | so back it up instead of using RAID :-) |
| [14:01:41] | justinh: | or do both |
| [14:02:05] | justinh: | having only one copy online at a time also protects you from filesystem failure |
| [14:02:18] | seeker: | Quite expensive in terms of extra drives for that |
| [14:02:33] | justinh: | depends how much you're thinking about keeping |
| [14:02:49] | seeker: | All of my DVDs and blurays ATM |
| [14:03:32] | justinh: | the length of time it'll take to rebuild a raid array is kind of silly now, with big drives.. kinda makes it more likely another drive will fail in the meantime :P |
| [14:05:04] | seeker: | Like I said, it isn't valuable stuff, just time consuming to replace, so the cost of 1 extra disk for raid 5 is probably a worthwhile expense |
| [14:05:31] | seeker: | Rather than doubling the number of discs I need |
| [14:05:33] | justinh: | up to you :-) |
| [14:05:50] | justinh: | but not using raid would *save* you :-) |
| [14:06:33] | JEDIDIAH__: | If you have a big enough DVD collection that re-ripping it woudl be a huge chore then you're already heavily invested. |
| [14:07:06] | justinh: | ripping any amount of DVDs is a fricken chore IMHO |
| [14:07:34] | JEDIDIAH__: | thank your local MP |
| [14:07:40] | JEDIDIAH__: | or MoC |
| [14:07:59] | justinh: | after watching something somebody buys me, assuming I ever do get around to it... I generally don't want to see it again in a hurry – so there's very little point anyway :P |
| [14:08:32] | justinh: | JEDIDIAH__: thank my MP, for the amount of time it takes, and the file transferring? :-O |
| [14:08:46] | JEDIDIAH__: | the data isn't going anywhere. no need to be in a hurry. |
| [14:09:25] | JEDIDIAH__: | most of the bother is sorting out metadata since a proper tools would probably be sued out of existence. |
| [14:09:33] | justinh: | fine, rip a disc a day.. Zzzz |
| [14:10:01] | JEDIDIAH__: | for the "rip" part, the PC does all the work. |
| [14:10:23] | justinh: | the the 'split into bits, transfer all the files'.. the user does all the work |
| [14:10:38] | justinh: | blimmin tv series discs. ugh |
| [14:11:34] | JEDIDIAH__: | sorting out a TV show is 5 minutes of data entry. the rest is predictable and easy to automate. |
| [14:11:48] | justinh: | 5 minutes? depends how the disc is arranged |
| [14:12:05] | justinh: | myth handles the metadata part easy peasy |
| [14:12:35] | justinh: | anyway my point is.. IMHO there's bog all worth keeping on HDD, let alone watching again |
| [14:12:49] | justinh: | think most of our DVDs at home are in the attic now |
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| [14:13:47] | JEDIDIAH__: | that's the nice thing about a good jukebox. everything is always at your finger tips and you can make it so that nothing is going to get forgotten about for long. |
| [14:13:48] | justinh: | if anybody's looking for somebody to give them the thumbs up to go software raid, they're looking in the wrong place as far as I'm concerned :D |
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| [14:14:46] | JEDIDIAH__: | RAID (of any sort) doesn't eliminate the need to have an entire separate copy of everything. |
| [14:14:57] | justinh: | JEDIDIAH__: other point being, how many films do I have that anybody has bought me, that I'd watch again? :-) |
| [14:15:18] | justinh: | I say that anybody has bought me, cos I last bought a DVD erm.... in umm.... hmm.... |
| [14:16:04] | justinh: | I'm weird. the whole video market can pass me by in the blink of an eyelid |
| [14:16:56] | justinh: | used to rent quite a lot, but trips to the rental place were always full of MEH |
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| [14:30:47] | seeker: | Would an atom be suitable for a backend? |
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| [14:31:55] | justinh: | I wouldn't |
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| [14:33:51] | seeker: | Hmm, i3? |
| [14:34:21] | JEDIDIAH__: | ...like anything else, it all boils down to what you are going to subject the machine to. |
| [14:35:42] | seeker: | Backend with a nova t 500 streaming DVD and bluray |
| [14:35:50] | hashbang: | seeker: my FE/BE was for a few years a Celeron 1.7GHz. SD playback only, DVB-T cards so no encoding required. |
| [14:36:28] | hashbang: | seeker: if you've got an Atom system kicking around already, give it a punt. But if you need to buy, probably better to buy something with a bit more grunt. |
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| [16:11:21] | wagnerrp: | Seeker`: since no one has explained why, you want a decent amount of power for your backend |
| [16:11:41] | wagnerrp: | the master backend runs the scheduler, and the scheduler is a very intensive process |
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| [16:12:02] | wagnerrp: | with a number of tuners and channels, the scheduler is going to take a long time to run |
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| [16:12:26] | wagnerrp: | somewhere around one minute for scheduler runs, you start running into complications that result in delayed and failed recordings |
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| [16:19:14] | Seeker`: | wagnerrp: something like an i3 540 is sufficient? |
| [16:19:48] | Seeker`: | also, are there any issues running on a 64 bit system? |
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| [16:21:25] | Scopeuk: | Seeker`, I've ran 64bit backends with no issues for over 4 years |
| [16:23:08] | Seeker`: | Scopeuk: cool |
| [16:24:34] | wagnerrp: | an i3 would be plenty |
| [16:24:58] | wagnerrp: | this is more reason why you shouldnt buy Atoms or plug computers to run as your backend |
| [16:25:33] | Seeker`: | qh, fair enough :) |
| [16:25:37] | Scopeuk: | i've never had issue with my old amd64 based backend |
| [16:26:01] | Scopeuk: | its a 2ghz single core chip, works well enough, obviously having more power avaliable "on tap" is always helpful |
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| [16:32:30] | skd5aner: | http://www.google.com/landing/csfe/ |
| [16:35:38] | Scopeuk: | does anyone have any recommendations for dvb-s/s2 tuners for uk use? |
| [16:35:43] | wagnerrp: | still no FTTT |
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| [17:24:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | [24278] |
| [17:24:50] | MythLogBot: | SVN 24278: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/4aece2ea |
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| [17:59:06] | [R]: | ok, i need a new theme |
| [17:59:12] | [R]: | this one sucks with 4 digit channel numbers |
| [18:07:09] | kormoc: | renumber them in myth? |
| [18:08:09] | [R]: | kormoc: ? |
| [18:08:38] | kormoc: | the channel numbers myth displays are entirely arbitrary. You could renumber them and not care IIRC |
| [18:09:31] | [R]: | lol |
| [18:09:41] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [18:09:51] | [R]: | tons of stuff are cut off on this theme other than the channle # though |
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| [18:49:09] | wagnerrp: | we have a usenet group? |
| [18:49:47] | [R]: | people still use usenet? |
| [18:50:50] | kormoc: | I use the net! |
| [18:52:49] | earthnative: | yeah, usenet has a pretty decent usage in some quarters |
| [18:53:04] | earthnative: | still one of the best forum systems out there imho |
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| [19:07:21] | GrahamIRC: | I'm having real problems with my EPG since British Summer Time started! Can anyone give me some pointers? |
| [19:08:13] | GrahamIRC: | I've tried changing the time offset in mythtvsetup to everything from -2hrs to none to auto to +2hrs but somehow it never gets the EPG times (or recordings) right |
| [19:08:37] | [R]: | there was a thread on the mialing list about it |
| [19:08:38] | GrahamIRC: | I've been using MythTV for several years and have never had this problem before when the clocks change |
| [19:08:54] | GrahamIRC: | I've been googling but not found a solution |
| [19:09:28] | GrahamIRC: | when I change the time offset I do a "delete from program;" in mysql, restart mythbackend and then mythfilldatabase |
| [19:09:44] | GrahamIRC: | but none of the time offsets I use get the EPG in sync with reality |
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| [19:10:01] | GrahamIRC: | do you have a pointer to that thread [R] ? |
| [19:10:11] | [R]: | no, but i'm sure you'll find it by looking through the archives |
| [19:10:26] | GrahamIRC: | on mythtv.org? |
| [19:10:42] | wagnerrp: | [R]: supposed to be alt.video.ptv.mythtv, but i cant find any free archives that carry it |
| [19:11:01] | [R]: | GrahamIRC: yup |
| [19:11:05] | [R]: | wagnerrp: ah |
| [19:11:16] | [R]: | wagnerrp: your isp doesnt provide a server? |
| [19:11:27] | wagnerrp: | they used to a decade ago... no clue now |
| [19:11:55] | [R]: | lol |
| [19:12:34] | GrahamIRC: | this is driving me batty! lol |
| [19:13:09] | wagnerrp: | check that out, it still exists |
| [19:14:22] | GrahamIRC: | wagnerrp, sorry was that to me? |
| [19:14:43] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [19:17:41] | wagnerrp: | volume is pretty low |
| [19:17:54] | wagnerrp: | 800 threads since it started 4.5 yrs ago |
| [19:22:15] | wagnerrp: | can anyone explain what the purpose of #2416 is for? |
| [19:22:32] | wagnerrp: | it allows you to duplicate your DVB EIT data onto analog sources... pretty straight forward |
| [19:22:37] | wagnerrp: | but, why would you ever want to do that? |
| [19:22:53] | wagnerrp: | if youre getting DVB EIT, then youre getting DVB channels |
| [19:23:07] | wagnerrp: | and if youre already getting the channels over DVB, why would you ever want to record them over analog? |
| [19:23:13] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: got F14 and HVR-1600 working with 8400 GS Nvidia and HPw 1907 Monitor |
| [19:23:15] | wagnerrp: | why wouldnt you just buy additional DVB tuners? |
| [19:24:31] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: why buy additional dvb tuners when i own external dvb tuner which outputs analog which can be fed in on analog channel of existing card. |
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| [19:26:52] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: because analog capture through an STB is a clumsy, unreliable solution at best |
| [19:27:20] | wagnerrp: | you get reduced quality, you have to futz with IR blasters or serial control, you have to keep a power hungry box running all the time |
| [19:27:32] | wagnerrp: | where as DVB tuners are relatively cheap |
| [19:27:39] | wagnerrp: | and you can add as many as you want within reason |
| [19:28:02] | wagnerrp: | IMHO, it seems it would be worth the money for the time and headache it would save me |
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| [19:30:34] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: you and I obviously operate on different budgets $100 for a dvb tuner does not meet my definition of cheap. |
| [19:30:49] | BobLfoot: | I will give you +12 for the headache and time comment though |
| [19:31:27] | wagnerrp: | $100 is awfully expensive for a tuner, i was under the impression they were closer to 25 lbs |
| [19:31:29] | BobLfoot: | I'd just like to get a tuner card what did Satellite Channels |
| [19:32:12] | BobLfoot: | I spent $89 us or 47 lbs for my last hvr-1600 |
| [19:33:07] | wagnerrp: | thats a dual tuner though |
| [19:33:10] | wagnerrp: | one analog, one digital |
| [19:33:18] | wagnerrp: | so you really spent $45 on a tuner |
| [19:33:28] | BobLfoot: | true |
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| [19:34:12] | kormoc: | BobLfoot, given my capture device costs $250, $100 is cheapish |
| [19:36:00] | devinheitmueller: | The hybrid tuners that have analog MPEG encoders tend to be a bit more expensive. |
| [19:36:28] | devinheitmueller: | Compared to single tuner devices or hybrid devices which only provide raw analog video (no hardware compression) |
| [19:36:31] | wagnerrp: | devinheitmueller: well sure, it goes up to ~$65/tuner for the 2250 |
| [19:36:51] | wagnerrp: | versus $45/tuner for a plain framegrabbing 1250 |
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| [19:37:21] | kormoc: | back in my day, we paid $100 for a bttv card! And we had to walk the bits up hill both ways! |
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| [19:38:41] | xilet: | kormoc: with only isa slots to install them in! |
| [19:38:49] | devinheitmueller: | The 1250 is a hybrid tuner, supporting both raw analog and digital capture. |
| [19:38:49] | devinheitmueller: | (this makes them more expensive than for example DVB tuners that have no analog capabilities) |
| [19:39:33] | BobLfoot: | what would be considered a good inexpensive dvb only tuner |
| [19:40:13] | devinheitmueller: | Well, if you're in the US, they are pretty rare. |
| [19:40:20] | devinheitmueller: | (largely due to FCC regulations) |
| [19:40:43] | wagnerrp: | every so often, you can find a HDHR dual for <$80 |
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| [19:41:17] | wagnerrp: | but that was mainly just clearing out old stock to make way for the new model |
| [19:41:31] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, the HDHR is definitely one (I bought my dual HDHR refurbished off Newegg for around $90). |
| [19:42:21] | wagnerrp: | do you know if the tuners theyre using in that are actually digital only? or if theyre simply not using the analog side? |
| [19:45:12] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: do you mean in the HDHR? |
| [19:45:23] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [19:46:18] | devinheitmueller: | I haven't pulled mine apart, but usually it's not the tuner that is the issue. Pretty much every silicon tuner nowadays will do either. However, you still need a analog demodulator and video decoder, and I am 99.9% certain they would not have included them in such a design. |
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| [19:50:12] | wagnerrp: | i know there are situations where EIT data from one satellite could be broadcast on another (although frankly i dont understand why they would do such a thing) |
| [19:50:34] | wagnerrp: | is it possible they would broadcast EIT data for a channel only available through analog, or otherwise encrypted? |
| [19:51:16] | wagnerrp: | i just cant think of a reason why they would set it up such that you could access the guide data, but not the show itself |
| [19:51:31] | wagnerrp: | which is the only reason you would want to be able to apply EIT data to analog recordings |
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| [19:55:59] | devinheitmueller: | Well, you might want to be able to receive EIT data without having to be tuned to that channel. |
| [19:56:27] | devinheitmueller: | For example, to populate a guide with upcoming programs without doing a frequency scan. |
| [19:57:37] | devinheitmueller: | And at least the ATSC spec allowed for providing info on analog channels via digital channels (which would allow guide info to be available for low power analog stations). |
| [19:57:55] | devinheitmueller: | ... although it's questionable how much that capability is used, if at all. |
| [20:05:26] | skd5aner: | a 25 lbs tuner card?!?! How does the mobo slot not crack under the weight?! |
| [20:05:28] | skd5aner: | ;) |
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| [20:07:14] | devinheitmueller: | skd5aner: Don't be silly: it's an external tuner. |
| [20:07:33] | devinheitmueller: | It comes with a floor stand and everything. |
| [20:07:35] | skd5aner: | ah – the lead it must be made out of must act as a secondary antenna source |
| [20:11:18] | TheOaf: | Hi I'm running Myth 0.24 fixes (atrpms) on CentOS5.5. All EPG listings show one hour early (e.g. 10 o'clock news is on at 9 in guide). Using Radio Times and XMLTV in UK. This is since change to BST last weekend. "date" is correct and shows BST. |
| [20:11:42] | JEDIDIAH__: | I don't recall ISA bttv cards. finally put a PCI motherboard in my PC just to accomodate the bttv card. |
| [20:13:01] | [R]: | TheOaf: there is a discussion on the mailing list about it |
| [20:15:31] | TheOaf: | [R] ah ok thanks... I looked in March thinking someone would have noticed before now! |
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| [20:15:51] | TheOaf: | I see someone else has the same issue. |
| [20:16:18] | skd5aner: | what's the reasoning behind mythtv not utilizing UTC again? |
| [20:17:02] | TheOaf: | Is it some Date::Manip perl thing...? just looking through list now |
| [20:21:04] | TheOaf: | Hmmm so what's the best fix? To run mythfilldatabase on a spare Fedora machine? |
| [20:27:02] | GrahamIRC: | I have the same problem TheOaf – do you have a solution? |
| [20:27:42] | TheOaf: | GrahamIRC not at the moment. Not watched TV for a week so didn't notice. I wonder about running mythfilldatabase on Fedora...? |
| [20:27:52] | TheOaf: | and populating the DB that way |
| [20:28:00] | GrahamIRC: | I'm using CentOS 5 |
| [20:28:07] | GrahamIRC: | having same prob |
| [20:28:24] | TheOaf: | Yes. It's definitely a problem on CentOS 5 for me too. |
| [20:28:28] | GrahamIRC: | have tried seting different time zones, then "delete from program;" and running mythfill... |
| [20:28:38] | TheOaf: | sounds very very familiar! |
| [20:28:43] | GrahamIRC: | lol |
| [20:28:55] | TheOaf: | :-) a bit painful |
| [20:28:59] | GrahamIRC: | do we know what the root of the cause is |
| [20:29:07] | GrahamIRC: | haven't found a timezone that works yet tho |
| [20:29:43] | TheOaf: | nope will try a few ideas and see how far I can get |
| [20:29:47] | TheOaf: | sicking plaster would do for now |
| [20:30:06] | GrahamIRC: | haven't found one of them either |
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| [20:38:08] | skd5aner: | is your tzinfo up to date? |
| [20:38:24] | skd5aner: | or tzdata, whatever it is |
| [20:39:12] | TheOaf: | skd5aner machine fully patched so yeah think so, recent update was for Chile I think |
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| [20:39:25] | TheOaf: | Ah |
| [20:39:54] | TheOaf: | Yeah if I run mythfilldatabase on a Fedora instance and point it at my CentOS backend then it updates EPG with the correct time |
| [20:40:09] | TheOaf: | so that's my sticking plaster... |
| [20:40:19] | TheOaf: | :-/ |
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| [21:15:13] | wagnerrp: | anyone else having lossless transcode issues with their recordings? |
| [21:15:22] | wagnerrp: | havent done one in a couple months |
| [21:15:35] | wagnerrp: | and the first two i try stall out a couple percent from completion |
| [21:16:08] | wagnerrp: | almost like they dont know how to do a 'cut to end' |
| [21:18:00] | wagnerrp: | three for three |
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| [22:03:58] | skd5aner: | I've never done one... but wish there was a "lossless" way to transcode/cut h264 for export into mythvideo |
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| [22:12:18] | wagnerrp: | i really should finish that script |
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| [22:12:34] | wagnerrp: | its been sitting on my hard drive for close to a year, waiting for a reliable way to fix the timecodes |
| [22:12:41] | highzeth: | had non that I can recall since 0.24, randomly on 0.23 |
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| [22:12:55] | wagnerrp: | this is 0.25 |
| [22:13:07] | highzeth: | ahh pardon |
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| [23:09:12] | NewBuntu81: | I have an MCE remote control. The OK button doesn't do anything in Mythtv, but the Enter button does. Can I just change the 5 digit code for OK to the same as Enter? Or is there another way to change the mapping for Mythtv? |
| [23:09:37] | NewBuntu81: | (in lirc.conf) |
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| [23:58:26] | waxhead_: | hi everyone.. I'm trying to get output from an mkv with ac3 and not succeeding.. .I've been following http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Configuring_Digital_Sound.. which must be for an earlier version of mythtv ( running 0.24 ) as the setting don't appear the same.. |
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