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| [01:22:36] | Beirdo: | now, do I want an RTC on this board... |
| [01:23:55] | wagnerrp: | a resolution trust corporation? |
| [01:24:23] | Beirdo: | realtime clock :) |
| [01:24:24] | wagnerrp: | recruit training center? |
| [01:24:38] | wagnerrp: | ooh... real thin client |
| [01:24:42] | wagnerrp: | that one even makes sense |
| [01:24:50] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:25:06] | wagnerrp: | or remote terminal capability |
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| [02:22:03] | dt3mp3st: | . |
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| [03:14:52] | wagnerrp: | man, the supermoon looks like... well, every other full moon |
| [03:15:12] | wagnerrp: | friggen batsh** astrologers |
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| [04:12:12] | sphery: | Why is a Schedules Direct user setting his "xmltv" offset to Auto? |
| [04:12:21] | sphery: | None is there for a reason |
| [04:12:33] | wagnerrp: | madness |
| [04:16:14] | sphery: | seems that's not even used for DD data, so it's irrelevant to the ticket |
| [04:16:30] | sphery: | which means it's not a dup of #8217 :( |
| [04:17:22] | wagnerrp: | ive been thinking... |
| [04:17:40] | sphery: | uh, oh |
| [04:18:01] | wagnerrp: | they have this 'wormhole extreme' episode, and they allow the show to run for plausible denyability |
| [04:18:17] | wagnerrp: | in the subsequent five years, and another seven of other shows |
| [04:18:24] | wagnerrp: | why was it never mentioned once? |
| [04:18:35] | wagnerrp: | like the recap episode where the told the world leaders |
| [04:18:48] | wagnerrp: | why not have someone throw in something like 'didnt i see a tv show about this?' |
| [04:19:00] | sphery: | heh, yeah, that would have been good |
| [04:21:46] | wagnerrp: | hes got blood on his face and a big gash in his forehead |
| [04:21:50] | wagnerrp: | 'are you injured? |
| [04:22:41] | sphery: | sounds like a McKay comment? |
| [04:23:16] | wagnerrp: | teal'c |
| [04:26:01] | sphery: | ah, yeah, back when he had junior, that wouldn't have even phased him |
| [04:26:16] | sphery: | he forgets others don't have that benefit :) |
| [04:26:35] | wagnerrp: | well it was carter's father, you could say he had a senior |
| [04:26:45] | sphery: | true |
| [04:26:58] | sphery: | I think I know which episode you're watching, now |
| [04:28:05] | sphery: | is it Reckoning, by any chance |
| [04:28:57] | wagnerrp: | right number, three seasons off |
| [04:29:23] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [04:30:26] | wagnerrp: | did you think i was watching the next episode after citizen joe? |
| [04:30:37] | wagnerrp: | (hence the previous comment) |
| [04:31:20] | sphery: | yeah |
| [04:32:00] | wagnerrp: | also, jack made a reference to freir's mother |
| [04:41:27] | sphery: | OK, so to make the Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive/Self-sustaining Amusement Park commercial even more annoying, the little kid in the back of the car says, "I'm four," while holding up 4 fingers, and the Dad says, "Almost." The captions for it say, "I'm bored." You would think that a company that's making a commercial would actually check the captions for accuracy before airing that commercial hundreds (thousands?) of times. I mean, it's ... |
| [04:41:33] | sphery: | ... all of 30s of video to check... |
| [04:42:34] | wagnerrp: | self sustaining amusement park? michael, in this channel we obey the laws of physics |
| [04:43:04] | sphery: | hey, it's not my idea. It's some Dad-in-a-Toyota-vehicle's idea |
| [04:43:17] | wagnerrp: | s/physics/thermodynamics/ |
| [04:43:17] | sphery: | (his words, not mine) |
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| [04:52:45] | wagnerrp: | you know, the amusement park near my house had one of the first LIM coasters, opened in 1995 |
| [04:53:07] | wagnerrp: | you think someone could tell that ad agency that technology predates the prius by five years? |
| [04:54:23] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:54:32] | sphery: | why would facts stop them |
| [04:54:39] | sphery: | when thermodynamics doesn't |
| [05:05:56] | wagnerrp: | does every naqueda enhanced nuke come with a handy padded-glove capable tool set? |
| [05:09:23] | sphery: | heh, it's standard issue |
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| [10:16:34] | deegan: | Where do things go wrong when i recieve something like this in the mythbackend log, "Your frequency setting (11216000) is out of range. (min/max:950000/2150000)"? |
| [10:18:25] | deegan: | I dont see how that makes sense when the channel was scanned with mythtv-setup, did it find a channel out of range and added it anyway? To clear things up: that channel is something that i've been watching for many many months and now it wont lock. |
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| [12:33:38] | mycoDA: | is there some way to get myth to use proper (ie iso/din) dates? |
| [12:34:08] | mycoDA: | rather than the least logical/useful date format in existance |
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| [16:22:47] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: any idea why the 0.25 ebuild would use 'make INSTALLROOT="${D}" install' |
| [16:23:02] | wagnerrp: | while the 0.24 ebuild would use 'einstall INSTALLROOT="${D}"' |
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| [16:33:31] | Saviq: | any ideas why my h264 videos don't get cut properly with mythtranscode --fifodir? the "begin cut here" mark got offset by some 30 frames (I'm thinking keyframe) |
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| [16:33:46] | Saviq: | might that be something that's fixed post-0.23-fixes? |
| [16:34:04] | sphery: | if it's fixed, it's definitely post 0.23-fixes |
| [16:34:21] | sphery: | but there hasn't been much work at all done on mythtranscode use with H.264 |
| [16:34:52] | sphery: | there were pretty big changes (fixes) to H.264 seek tables for 0.24, though |
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| [16:37:04] | wagnerrp: | 0.23-fixes? Saviq, i thought you were messing around with trunk |
| [16:38:09] | Saviq: | wagnerrp: I was, but it got me bitten hard several times, couldn't get it to work stable (I'm talking 0.24-fixes here) |
| [16:38:26] | Saviq: | had to drop that for some time, but will probably build again soon |
| [16:38:49] | wagnerrp: | but how have you been using jya's patch? |
| [16:38:49] | Saviq: | especially since I got me a nice mythnuv2mkv with multiple audio tracks support |
| [16:38:54] | Saviq: | wagnerrp: have not |
| [16:38:58] | Saviq: | yet |
| [16:39:11] | Saviq: | been only reading it until now |
| [16:40:11] | kormoc is now known as kormoc_afk | |
| [16:40:43] | skd5aner: | I love xkcd – http://xkcd.com/radiation/ |
| [16:42:43] | sphery: | skd5aner: yeah, I think all journalists writing anything about the nuclear plants in Japan should have to study that chart before submitting copy |
| [16:44:04] | sphery: | as few are actually reading the reports from informed sources, such as the World Nuclear Association |
| [16:44:12] | skd5aner: | or the people who are buying iodine pills for 2000x the price they cost last month |
| [16:44:41] | sphery: | yeah... Iodine overdoses/poisoning are likely to be the biggest health risk to come out of this incident |
| [16:45:50] | skd5aner: | I always remembered an interesting bit of trivia from long ago... |
| [16:46:32] | skd5aner: | a bottle of beer has more radiation in it than the steam water used in a nuclear reactor |
| [16:47:15] | sphery: | heh, yeah... but people don't fear the beer |
| [16:48:05] | skd5aner: | beer poisoning sucks |
| [16:48:12] | skd5aner: | you'll be throwing up ALL night |
| [16:52:03] | wagnerrp: | youll be throwing up all night because of how much fluid you need to drink to get alcohol poisoning from beer |
| [16:52:15] | wagnerrp: | its like the whole 'drink a gallon of milk' thing |
| [16:52:23] | skd5aner: | someone figured out to to hook up a kinect to a PS3 – sorta |
| [16:53:04] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: yea – didn't necessarily mean "alcohol poisoning" – just "beer poisoning" |
| [16:53:05] | skd5aner: | ;) |
| [16:53:23] | skd5aner: | people can get a hang over long before they face alcohol poisoning |
| [16:53:33] | wagnerrp: | you mean from drinking large quantity of CHEAP beer |
| [16:53:50] | skd5aner: | sure, that works too |
| [16:53:51] | wagnerrp: | your body refuses to stomache the vile taste any longer |
| [16:54:04] | skd5aner: | Natty Ice isn't meant to be held down ;) |
| [16:54:04] | wagnerrp: | nope, im done... its coming back out |
| [16:54:54] | wagnerrp: | i did that once with vodka |
| [16:55:13] | wagnerrp: | first drink of the night, it wasnt drunk or anything |
| [16:55:17] | wagnerrp: | but it was projectile |
| [16:55:29] | wagnerrp: | that incident has been nicknamed the 'fountain of ray' |
| [16:55:30] | skd5aner: | yea – I'm kind of a vodka snob |
| [16:55:43] | skd5aner: | but I've had my moments with classics like "Dark Eyes Vodka" |
| [16:55:54] | Seeker is now known as Seeker` | |
| [16:55:56] | skd5aner: | btw – that makes for a great camp fire starter fluid |
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| [16:56:12] | skd5aner: | cheaper than actual bbq lighter fluid |
| [16:58:33] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what brand this stuff was, but it was vile stuff |
| [16:58:50] | wagnerrp: | 'take a shot! take a shot!'... so i took a shot |
| [16:59:20] | wagnerrp: | first one almost cause the gag reflex, i said no more |
| [16:59:28] | wagnerrp: | 'yeah yeah! you can do one more' |
| [16:59:42] | wagnerrp: | so one more... i warned them that one was coming back up |
| [16:59:45] | wagnerrp: | sure enough... |
| [17:00:03] | wagnerrp: | friend's brother came back in close |
| [17:00:15] | wagnerrp: | warned him he shouldnt be there, theres more coming |
| [17:00:19] | wagnerrp: | he didnt heed my warning |
| [17:00:33] | skd5aner: | I guess my lesson learned was: Don't drink any alcohol that has a name brand based on what you could like like with a severe hangover |
| [17:01:15] | wagnerrp: | ive only ever had one hangover in my life |
| [17:01:26] | wagnerrp: | and like i said, that was the first drink i had |
| [17:01:29] | wagnerrp: | i wasnt drunk |
| [17:02:03] | skd5aner: | so, do you like good vodka, or just have a gag reflex for vodka? |
| [17:02:42] | wagnerrp: | ive drank vodka before, and since |
| [17:02:48] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what it was about that stuff |
| [17:02:55] | skd5aner: | was it flavored? |
| [17:03:29] | skd5aner: | not a big fan of most flavored vodkas myself – especially stoli blueberry – makes me gag thinking about it |
| [17:03:49] | wagnerrp: | i dont recall |
| [17:04:04] | skd5aner: | yea – best to push the experience from your mind :D |
| [17:06:19] | Saviq: | Absolut Mandarin – that's a barf thrower if I know one |
| [17:06:33] | Saviq: | Mandarin / Clementine whatever the small oranges are called |
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| [17:21:36] | deegan: | Hrms, dvb-s giving me a headache again. I can't seem to scan anything on a Horizontal polarity but Vertical works perfectly fine. |
| [17:21:52] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, no idea |
| [17:22:08] | wagnerrp: | i dont recall doing anything with that line |
| [17:22:14] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, nor do I |
| [17:22:17] | wagnerrp: | i must have just copied it directly from the existing builds |
| [17:25:06] | sphery: | So, with this proposed AT&T buyout of T-Mobile USA, someone needs to do a spoof video that shows a guy who looks like the AT&T character in the myTouch 4G commercials wearing a pink dress, like Carly Foulkes' myTouch 4G character wears. |
| [17:25:51] | skd5aner: | sphery: why do you know her name? |
| [17:25:54] | kormoc: | Her lips bug me... a little too Steven Taylor, but she won't get kicked out of bed for eating crackers! |
| [17:25:58] | wagnerrp: | mytouch is t-mobile? |
| [17:26:08] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, upgrade to nation wide 4g! |
| [17:26:22] | wagnerrp: | lies! there is no 4g |
| [17:26:24] | sphery: | deegan: what version of MythTV? there were some fixes for polarity issues not that long ago. |
| [17:26:46] | kormoc: | that supermoon, screwing with polarity! |
| [17:27:11] | wagnerrp: | those couple miles make all the difference |
| [17:27:17] | sphery: | skd5aner: she just looks like a Carly Foulkes... I'm guessing. |
| [17:27:37] | kormoc: | google agrees |
| [17:28:04] | skd5aner: | sphery: surreeeeee – http://coedmagazine.com/2011/01/03/whos-that- . . . l-75-photos/ |
| [17:28:56] | sphery: | skd5aner: a more on-topic question may be, "sphery, how do you even know about a T-Mobile commercial with a girl in a pink dress?" |
| [17:29:14] | sphery: | though the first sentence of you linked page pretty much sums it up |
| [17:29:25] | ** Beirdo orders a stack of his own circuit boards. ** | |
| [17:29:53] | Beirdo: | I guess I should make a new Digikey order for the pile of parts too :) |
| [17:29:59] | skd5aner: | still – I'm shocked you knew her name – not like it's a household name :) |
| [17:30:45] | kormoc: | skd5aner, ooh... there's at least one very lucky household... |
| [17:30:52] | skd5aner: | that said, it's not the first time I've asked myself "who is that girl in that commercial" :) |
| [17:32:51] | skd5aner: | for example – http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2010/11/christi . . . -ignore.html |
| [17:34:24] | skd5aner: | but I'm sure I'll forget that name in about 10 minutes :) |
| [17:35:13] | skd5aner: | ... and just refer to her as "that girl wearing the black lingerie in that microsoft phone commercial, you know, the one who used to be Miss Louisiana" |
| [17:35:33] | deegan: | sphery: mythtv-0-24-fixes-v0.24-222-g1f532a5 |
| [17:35:55] | sphery: | deegan: hmmm... that should be new enough |
| [17:36:00] | sphery: | not sure what it might be,then |
| [17:36:26] | sphery: | since I don't know anything about DVB-S, the best I can do is direct you to: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/DVB-S |
| [17:37:48] | deegan: | sphery: yea it's really odd. It started with a couple of channels that didnt want to lock, then all the HD stuff just got (Tl) and nothing more. And now here i am rescanning _everything_ and anything Vertical works but Horizontal just keeps timing out. |
| [17:38:49] | deegan: | oh nightly build available, mythtv-0-24-fixes-v0.24-230-g782b652. |
| [17:40:21] | deegan: | i should drop the redundant 0–24 from that thing- |
| [17:42:45] | Saviq: | Beirdo: what'ya hackin' on? |
| [17:42:54] | Beirdo: | sensors for my kegerator |
| [17:43:05] | Saviq: | as in beer kegs? |
| [17:43:13] | wagnerrp: | aye |
| [17:43:15] | Saviq: | ;) |
| [17:43:18] | Beirdo: | temperature, mass of the kegs, and an accelerometer to see when the taps are open |
| [17:43:22] | Beirdo: | aye. :) |
| [17:43:33] | Saviq: | lol |
| [17:46:15] | Beirdo: | I'll grant you that the accelerometer is overkill :) |
| [17:46:18] | Beirdo: | but fun |
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| [17:46:54] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: heh – you sound like me when it comes to home automation stuff |
| [17:47:13] | skd5aner: | geek out as much as possible |
| [17:47:22] | Beirdo: | so I had boards made for my temperature sensors... then decided to redo it |
| [17:47:46] | Beirdo: | with a sensor base board that uses daughter boards for each different sensor :) |
| [17:48:02] | Beirdo: | costs more, but then I can use common code, etc. |
| [17:48:18] | Beirdo: | with an ATmega8A on the common board, BTW |
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| [17:50:25] | Beirdo: | that one was hard to get to pass DRC. Hehe |
| [17:50:33] | Beirdo: | shoulda made it 4-layer. |
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| [18:02:54] | ** Beirdo considers buying a beagleboard ** | |
| [18:06:01] | wagnerrp: | sounds like overkill for a refrigerator controller |
| [18:06:21] | Beirdo: | well, to run a nice touchscreen LCD... |
| [18:06:22] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:06:57] | wagnerrp: | unless of course you want it to have wheels, and the ability to autonomously navigate around the house to where its needed |
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| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, that would be cool... not |
| [18:09:07] | sphery: | would that be a Roombeer? |
| [18:09:33] | Beirdo: | Hey, if only the roomba had a robotic arm... |
| [18:09:44] | wagnerrp: | brings a whole new dimension to the phrase 'beer run' |
| [18:11:21] | wagnerrp: | http://www.robotshop.com/sfe-color-lcd-arduin . . . campaign=jos |
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| [18:12:09] | Beirdo: | way too small, and not touch screen :) |
| [18:13:09] | wagnerrp: | someone just seems... wrong... running a 1GHz ARM as a refrigerator microcontroller |
| [18:13:42] | wagnerrp: | not to mention it probably costs half as much as the rest of the project |
| [18:13:47] | Beirdo: | true |
| [18:13:48] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:14:08] | Beirdo: | right now, the receiver board will be plugged into a PC |
| [18:14:15] | Beirdo: | via USB/serial |
| [18:14:37] | Beirdo: | no reason that can't go to a beagleboard with a nice touchscreen though |
| [18:14:45] | Beirdo: | and still be on the internet |
| [18:15:42] | wagnerrp: | according to the mailing lists, you could even run mythtv on it |
| [18:15:52] | Beirdo: | if not, then close to it |
| [18:16:09] | Beirdo: | it supports OpenGL-ES 2.0 IIRC |
| [18:16:23] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but no power for the decoders |
| [18:16:34] | wagnerrp: | and no mythtv support for the hardware DSP |
| [18:16:41] | Beirdo: | well, we'll see how far markk getst :) |
| [18:16:44] | Beirdo: | he has one |
| [18:17:02] | Beirdo: | not gonna hold my breath though |
| [18:17:03] | wagnerrp: | one of the xbmc guys wrote a library for it last year |
| [18:17:25] | Beirdo: | he'll get distracted by something else that needs fixing, I'm sure :) |
| [18:18:26] | Beirdo: | no reason we couldn't end up adding DSP support |
| [18:18:42] | Beirdo: | other than the obvious.. time, energy, etc. |
| [18:19:03] | wagnerrp: | well its not 'DSP support', but 'TI OMAP4 DSP support' |
| [18:19:20] | Beirdo: | if you can get mythfrontend running well on there... then my nook color will want an android app version. |
| [18:19:27] | Beirdo: | I know. |
| [18:20:15] | Beirdo: | http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8335 |
| [18:20:37] | Beirdo: | I'm kinda leaning towards that... with the accompanying touchscreen |
| [18:20:59] | Beirdo: | 24-bit color :) |
| [18:21:50] | ** kormoc *cough*overkill*cough* ** | |
| [18:21:58] | Beirdo: | but of course |
| [18:22:08] | ** Beirdo is an engineer, remember. ** | |
| [18:22:11] | kormoc: | everyone knows 16 colors is enough for anyone! |
| [18:22:16] | Beirdo: | we like to overkill :) |
| [18:22:23] | kormoc: | Heh |
| [18:22:33] | Saviq: | $30? is it for the ribbon alone? |
| [18:22:59] | Beirdo: | nope, that's the whole LCD |
| [18:23:11] | wagnerrp: | and controller? |
| [18:23:33] | Beirdo: | seems no |
| [18:23:36] | sphery: | kormoc: heh, I typed in a BASIC app from a magazine that showed howto create "virtually unlimited" colors by combining pixels of those 16 colors into areas |
| [18:23:49] | sphery: | this was a /long/ time ago |
| [18:23:53] | Beirdo: | at least from the pics |
| [18:24:12] | wagnerrp: | is that 480x272? |
| [18:24:19] | wagnerrp: | or 160x3x272? |
| [18:24:32] | Beirdo: | 480x272 in RGB24 |
| [18:24:49] | wagnerrp: | you know how they like to count individual subpixels to inflate their counts |
| [18:24:55] | Beirdo: | according to the data sheet |
| [18:25:16] | Beirdo: | it's 480x272 pixels, and 1 pixel = R+G+B dots |
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| [18:26:29] | Beirdo: | wonder how much RAM current FPGAs contain. |
| [18:27:35] | Beirdo: | the display thingy would be for later anyways. Just something that seems cool... and yes, overkill |
| [18:27:56] | wagnerrp: | im talking about stuff like this... http://store.mp3car.com/Xenarc_702TSV_VGA_Tou . . . /mon-054.htm |
| [18:28:04] | wagnerrp: | where they report 2400x480 resolution |
| [18:28:24] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:28:34] | wagnerrp: | ive also seen 1440x272 |
| [18:28:41] | Beirdo: | for "dot resolution" yes |
| [18:28:56] | Beirdo: | not as "pixel resolution", it does clearly say 800x480 there |
| [18:29:08] | Beirdo: | but yeah, it can get confusing |
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| [18:32:10] | sphery: | dot resolution is DPI, has nothing to do with dot count... |
| [18:32:50] | Beirdo: | ummm, when they define "1 pixel = 1 red dot + 1 green dot + 1 blue dot", it has everything to do with it |
| [18:33:13] | sphery: | I'm saying they're using a term that has a different meaning |
| [18:33:21] | Beirdo: | yes, they are. |
| [18:33:22] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:33:41] | Beirdo: | it's all confusing |
| [18:33:54] | sphery: | agreed |
| [18:34:01] | wagnerrp: | seems FF4 has been released |
| [18:34:07] | wagnerrp: | next month, FF5! |
| [18:34:10] | sphery: | wagnerrp: thought it went to RC2 |
| [18:34:26] | sphery: | getfirefox.com still shows 3.6 |
| [18:34:42] | wagnerrp: | 4.0 final is available, official release tomorrow |
| [18:35:13] | wagnerrp: | ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/4.0/ |
| [18:35:17] | sphery: | pretty sure that's 4.0rc2, final release tomorrow |
| [18:35:22] | sphery: | (expected) |
| [18:35:46] | sphery: | they don't expect any differences, so it's a pedantic argument, but... |
| [18:35:48] | wagnerrp: | final on their ftp servers today, official release tomorrow once they get mirrors set up |
| [18:37:23] | wagnerrp: | no, youre right, it is the rc |
| [18:37:50] | sphery: | maybe they're pushing what's expected to be the final release so mirrors can pull it? |
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| [18:39:30] | ** Beirdo almost chokes on his coffee ** | |
| [18:39:47] | Beirdo: | did a search on digikey for the Spartan 6 eval board... $5k! |
| [18:39:51] | Beirdo: | Ummm, no |
| [18:40:22] | wagnerrp: | seriously... you need to stop |
| [18:40:40] | Beirdo: | I mean, it is the second largest they make :) |
| [18:40:45] | Beirdo: | with PCI Express in it |
| [18:40:52] | wagnerrp: | when youre buying FPGAs and learning VHDL to run your beer fridge |
| [18:40:58] | wagnerrp: | thats it, game over, time to go home |
| [18:41:02] | Beirdo: | I already learned VHDL |
| [18:41:05] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:41:25] | Beirdo: | that course was one of my highest marks in 4th year |
| [18:41:52] | Beirdo: | but yeah, I hear ya... the FPGA would be to do LCD control :) |
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| [18:41:54] | skd5aner: | Yea – this sounds like a semester long graduate project gone crazy |
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| [18:42:09] | Beirdo: | LCD controller WOULD be a long project |
| [18:42:30] | Beirdo: | the rest has been... a week? And I have about a week worth of firmware to write |
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| [18:43:15] | wagnerrp: | f-p-g-a |
| [18:43:23] | Beirdo: | right |
| [18:43:24] | wagnerrp: | youre planning on writing your own integrated circuit |
| [18:43:31] | wagnerrp: | for a refrigerator |
| [18:43:34] | Beirdo: | as I said, that'd be for controlling the LCD |
| [18:43:35] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:43:44] | Beirdo: | for fun. |
| [18:44:06] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: don't let him get you down ;) |
| [18:44:16] | Beirdo: | and for many many many many hours of frustration :) |
| [18:44:45] | skd5aner: | while your at it, can you get your kegerator to also work on commflagging and transcoding since, you know... it'll be a nice processor cooling environment |
| [18:44:59] | Beirdo: | hehe, no warming my beer! |
| [18:45:03] | sphery: | which, when complete, you could drown with your cold, weighed, and reported beer |
| [18:45:17] | sphery: | (drown frustration) |
| [18:45:25] | Beirdo: | oh, for sure |
| [18:45:54] | Beirdo: | oh wow |
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| [18:46:17] | Beirdo: | Xilinx Virtex-7 comes with 65Mb of BlockRAM |
| [18:46:26] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [18:46:29] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: about 6 years ago I read an article about someone building one with RFID which would dispense and track who was getting how much beer, and then they could "charge" the roomates appropriately for amount of beer dispensed to that person |
| [18:46:36] | wagnerrp: | plus, you know... an FPGA would just tare through stuff like that |
| [18:46:41] | wagnerrp: | blockram? |
| [18:46:46] | Beirdo: | skd5aner: if I had roommates :) |
| [18:46:54] | Beirdo: | yeah, built-in RAM |
| [18:47:08] | Beirdo: | and 3960 DSP slices |
| [18:47:15] | wagnerrp: | like an L3 cache, basically? |
| [18:47:18] | Beirdo: | (5052 GMACs) |
| [18:47:35] | Beirdo: | yeah, or any other internal RAM needs |
| [18:47:49] | Beirdo: | almost 2M logic cells |
| [18:47:51] | Beirdo: | holy crap |
| [18:48:04] | Beirdo: | no, I want someting much smaller, thanks |
| [18:48:32] | wagnerrp: | or more like the 2Mb local store on each SPE on the Cell? |
| [18:48:39] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: well, for parties you could hand out rfid fobs – "want beer, swipe this first" – then you would know who needs a DD at the end of the night ;) |
| [18:49:01] | Beirdo: | I was saying to a coworker, it would work well for a work beer fridge :) |
| [18:49:04] | skd5aner: | BYORFID |
| [18:49:31] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: yea, you could limit it – to eliminate drunk-at-work situations |
| [18:49:48] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:49:54] | Beirdo: | we all have RFID too |
| [18:50:16] | skd5aner: | "Sorry Jeff – you've reached your daily limit of 16 ounces... drunkard" |
| [18:50:16] | Beirdo: | oooh, $120 for a Cyclone III eval board. Seems Altera's the cheaper choice now |
| [18:50:27] | Beirdo: | and report directly to HR :) |
| [18:50:28] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [18:52:06] | skd5aner: | My wife works has worked for multiple organizations in the sporting industry that had primary sponsorships by beer companies – needless to say, the rules around the "free beer" are pretty strict |
| [18:52:28] | Beirdo: | imagine that :) |
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| [19:14:17] | Seeker`: | justinh: around? |
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| [19:31:40] | revmarkp: | so after two years fiddling I FINALLY get hd dvb-s working! there are issues of course! |
| [19:33:21] | revmarkp: | anyone seen this (from mythback): [h264 @ 0x6ada960]number of reference frames exceeds max (probably corrupt input), discarding one |
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| [19:36:31] | wagnerrp: | means a bad encoding, or otherwise bad signal reception |
| [19:38:21] | revmarkp: | OK. would it give that error even when I'm not actually using the tuner would u think? |
| [19:38:38] | wagnerrp: | that would be during playback |
| [19:38:53] | wagnerrp: | or it could be the recorder pulling keyframes |
| [19:38:56] | wagnerrp: | or it could be the commflagger |
| [19:39:15] | revmarkp: | i get the error several 100 times when backend starts, after few minutes it stops? |
| [19:40:07] | revmarkp: | maybe it stops when this comes up? [h264 @ 0x6ada960]illegal short term buffer state detected |
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| [19:40:23] | wagnerrp: | do you have playback problems? |
| [19:41:05] | sphery: | revmarkp: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8367 |
| [19:41:11] | revmarkp: | not really (I got some front ends that wont playback, but they need better video card... the fe/be and one other machine work fine |
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| [19:41:21] | sphery: | i.e. just happens for some users, and it /is/ an error, so we report it |
| [19:41:30] | sphery: | whether it causes problems is a different matter |
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| [19:42:07] | sphery: | in theory, though, 0.24-fixes and beyond shouldn't be printing that message as frequently |
| [19:42:15] | sphery: | which version are you using? |
| [19:42:18] | revmarkp: | thx sphery, just reading. twice in last two days the whole machine has restarted itself without notice. all since i got the dvb-s 'working' |
| [19:42:31] | revmarkp: | i'm .23 fixes here |
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| [19:43:08] | sphery: | pretty sure that fix was after 0.23-fixes |
| [19:43:32] | sphery: | but I don't remember which rev was which (and don't have a nice tags dir to look it up, now that we're on git) |
| [19:43:53] | revmarkp: | that bug report is exactly me. |
| [19:44:11] | sphery: | yep, 0.24-fixes and above |
| [19:44:14] | sphery: | are you on ubuntu? |
| [19:44:19] | revmarkp: | yeh |
| [19:44:27] | sphery: | if so, might want to go to 0.24-fixes at http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds |
| [19:44:41] | revmarkp: | if i'm feeling brave eh |
| [19:45:07] | revmarkp: | doya think a bug light that might crash the machine? |
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| [20:41:20] | sphery: | wow, just got a product brochure from the cable co that provides my Internet service, and the TV prices are unbelievably high... glad I'm doing OTA |
| [20:41:34] | sphery: | unfortunately, it looks like the also increased the price of Internet |
| [20:41:48] | iamlindoro: | You're such an OTA fanboy |
| [20:41:50] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [20:41:57] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:42:13] | Beirdo: | bend over and take that cable bill like a consumer. |
| [20:42:26] | sphery: | heh, I'm a fanboy of not paying $62/mo for standard cable (70 channels) without digital tier |
| [20:42:52] | iamlindoro: | C'mon, what was that $62 doing besides burning a hole in your pocket anyway |
| [20:43:11] | iamlindoro: | Cable bills: Preventing crack habits since 1989 |
| [20:43:25] | sphery: | heh |
| [20:44:14] | sphery: | seems it's $71 for the "interactive" package, which is the 250 channel package, including digital (DVR not included in price) |
| [20:44:34] | Beirdo: | so all those extra channels are $9/month |
| [20:44:42] | Beirdo: | I'll just take the extras, thanks. |
| [20:45:20] | sphery: | $8 for digital tier, so, seemingly, $1 to go from 70 to 250 channels--if you buy the $8 digital tier :) |
| [20:45:29] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [20:45:43] | Beirdo: | here's $1/month. Gimme my 180 channels. |
| [20:45:57] | skd5aner: | +$10/mo for STB rental |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | cable billing is always so ridiculous |
| [20:46:06] | skd5aner: | per STB |
| [20:46:15] | Beirdo: | and don't forget $2/month for a remote |
| [20:46:27] | sphery: | then again, if they're calling the 250channel option "standard" cable, it would be $62 for standard cable + $8.00 for digital tier + $1 tip? |
| [20:47:02] | skd5aner: | TWC just sent me a rate change sheet last month – I didn't enjoy reading through the line items :/ |
| [20:49:11] | sphery: | only product I have is RoadRunner high-speed Internet (through Earthlink--which allowed me to get the same discounted price that cable TV subscribers get, but without having to get cable TV)... it's $41.95/mo, but they're listing "High Speed Internet Services, Standard – Road Runner or Earthlink" as $50 |
| [20:49:25] | sphery: | so don't know if I'll stay at the lower rate or if this is a very opaque rate-change notice |
| [20:50:31] | sphery: | (their Turbo internet is $65/mo (for 20Mbps vs standard's 10Mbps) |
| [20:51:06] | Beirdo: | I need louder headphones. |
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| [20:52:32] | sphery: | I am happy, though, that my new cell phone provider (to be) is now cracking down on people who have been jailbreaking their iPhones or modifying their Android phones to add a tethering application in violation of the terms of service |
| [20:53:07] | skd5aner: | which one? |
| [20:53:08] | sphery: | they're making them buy the "non-smartphone device" data plans that they've been stealing |
| [20:53:12] | sphery: | AT&T |
| [20:54:03] | sphery: | started sending out letters to people they suspect of doing so and telling them they may need to update their service plan: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/18/new_a . . . ring_policy/ |
| [20:54:49] | sphery: | (and will actually add the new service to the plan if they don't respond by the deadline) |
| [20:55:22] | skd5aner: | I think that's a bit crazy if you ask me |
| [20:55:44] | sphery: | which means a lot of these people--who likely have grandfathered "unlimited data" iPhone plans--will get a whole new contract with a 4GB cap |
| [20:55:52] | skd5aner: | Kind of like you were talking about before sphery, why do you have to pay for an additioanl ISP if you already have one – same thing |
| [20:56:15] | sphery: | I support it /only/ because the people have been stealing the service--they're tethering in direct violation of the service agreement |
| [20:56:50] | sphery: | i.e I'm all for people actually using only the services they pay for (or, inversely, paying for all the services they use) |
| [20:57:15] | skd5aner: | "stealing" – I don't know if I'd go that far, but violating a TOS, yea |
| [20:57:24] | sphery: | I call it stealing |
| [20:57:33] | sphery: | they're using a service they haven't paid for |
| [20:57:50] | Seeker`: | weird question, anyone here in the UK running mythtv through an AV Receiver? |
| [20:57:50] | sphery: | s/a service/a for-payment service/ |
| [21:00:37] | sphery: | skd5aner: the difference here is that they haven't paid for an additional ISP... they've paid for a smartphone data package, and if they want to use internet on other devices, they either need to a) do without (my solution to the "don't want to pay for another ISP" issue) b) contract for that service (buy the DataPro 4GB service), or c) switch to a provider that allows tethering with the basic smartphone package (Verizon does, for example) |
| [21:01:05] | skd5aner: | sphery: I guess it depends on how you look at it – to me it's an issue of "lock-in" – the OS, in android's case, is designed to allow tethering – but the version that providers like Verizon launch lock out the capability at the OS level and only allow their paid for app to run tethering. So, if you unlock the OS to do what it's designed to do, and run a different tethering application... |
| [21:01:12] | sphery: | my saying I don't want to pay for additional ISP does /not/ mean that I feel I should be able to use a service without paying for it |
| [21:01:16] | skd5aner: | I don't see the huge deal (in that specific case) |
| [21:01:47] | sphery: | because it's a violation of ToS and use of a service you're not paying to receive |
| [21:01:56] | Seeker`: | becuase bandwidth isn't an unlimited resource? |
| [21:02:00] | skd5aner: | don't get me wrong, I'm still running a stock droid 2 and have never tethered using the stock application, or otherwise – never rooted, etc |
| [21:02:09] | sphery: | if the ToS allows tethering, then, yeah, I have no problem with someone unlocking the Android phone and using their own app |
| [21:02:18] | sphery: | but if it doesn't allow it, they can't just steal the service |
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| [21:03:04] | sphery: | it's like those thieves who come in here saying, "Oh, it's ok for me to download illegal copies of movies and TV because I pay for a cable subscription" |
| [21:03:08] | sphery: | one != the other |
| [21:03:31] | skd5aner: | sphery: eh – I'm at the point where it's getting a little old to be told that everything you could ever do is a criminal action – I don't consider that stealing, which is a crime – violating their rules, that's another thing |
| [21:03:32] | sphery: | anyway, I'm glad they're getting people to pay for the service they're using |
| [21:04:21] | sphery: | I just don't see how anyone could justify use of a for-payment service without paying as being not stealing |
| [21:04:56] | skd5aner: | I'm not 100% in disagreement with you, which is why I don't pay for tethering, nor have I tried to work around it... mainly my arguement is the "fairness" off it – I think it's an unfair policy and when people violate it, I don't see them as theives (in this unique case) |
| [21:05:12] | sphery: | it's like saying, "Oh, I'm not stealing when I hook a splitter onto my neighbor's cable line, so I can watch TV, too" |
| [21:05:26] | sphery: | it's a service you're using without paying for |
| [21:05:53] | Seeker`: | sphery: I'd argue it is worse than that, as bandwidth isn't unlimited, and when the mobile networks are congested you are using up bandwidth that others can use |
| [21:06:02] | skd5aner: | heh – again "you" != me in this case, since I don't do it :) |
| [21:06:17] | sphery: | skd5aner: and, yeah, I'll agree that it's not a nice feature that they break out the 2 types of usage as different services, but as long as they do, I call use of one or the other without paying stealing |
| [21:06:43] | skd5aner: | I guess I look at it at an app perspective |
| [21:06:51] | skd5aner: | I can't tether because I have to pay for your app |
| [21:07:00] | skd5aner: | but I'm paying for a data plan |
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| [21:07:44] | sphery: | Seeker`: yeah, as a guy who spends a lot of time waiting on the Internet in hotels (when tons of people are doing Netflix streaming or whatever, and I'm only trying to use a few bps for ssh), I've seen the effect of not having enough bandwidth due to others using more than their fair share :) |
| [21:08:02] | skd5aner: | and the OS supports it, and the LOC has said, in their latest review of the DMCA, that jailbraking and rooting should be allowed |
| [21:08:22] | sphery: | skd5aner: sure, jailbreaking is fine |
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| [21:08:37] | Beirdo: | just voids yer warranty :) |
| [21:08:56] | sphery: | but tethering, when the ToS requires you to have a data plan for tethering, isn't |
| [21:09:15] | sphery: | that is tethering without that data plan isn't fine |
| [21:09:17] | skd5aner: | sphery: I guess it's just one of those things where I have an opinion on – I don't have to agree with every rule a telco puts out there (even though I'm not violating any of them) |
| [21:09:27] | sphery: | yeah |
| [21:09:27] | skd5aner: | I think it's unfair, and dumb |
| [21:09:52] | skd5aner: | same reason I think handset manufacturers are dumb for locking bootloaders and stuff |
| [21:09:54] | sphery: | I think it would make sense to have a specific bandwidth allocation and allow the user to use it as he sees fit |
| [21:10:16] | sphery: | but until then, rather than allow people to violate the ToS, they /should/ police it |
| [21:10:22] | skd5aner: | same reason many think DRM is dumb |
| [21:10:22] | JEDIDIAH__: | you are thinking like a customer or an engineer, not a corporation |
| [21:10:32] | sphery: | and, really, the real reason they're doing this is probably to turn all those unlimited accounts into 4GB accounts |
| [21:10:38] | sphery: | i.e. they /need/ sane limits on bandwidth |
| [21:11:06] | skd5aner: | JEDIDIAH__: when I incorporate and run my daily life as a CORP, I'll probably have a different story to tell ;D |
| [21:11:29] | JEDIDIAH__: | no. they need to build a network that will be capable of what the devices are doing tomorrow, never mind today. |
| [21:11:35] | sphery: | JEDIDIAH__: heh, yeah, use as you see fit doesn't make AT&T and extra $20/mo |
| [21:11:48] | JEDIDIAH__: | precisely. |
| [21:11:59] | JEDIDIAH__: | You can be a bandwidth hog without even getting into tethering. |
| [21:12:09] | skd5aner: | exactly |
| [21:12:20] | sphery: | though I have a sneaking suspicion that the grandfathered unlimited accounts are a higher priority than that $20/mo |
| [21:12:28] | skd5aner: | and my monthly bandwidth usage on my mobile device is pretty dang low – and if I did tether, it'd likely be for a few hours a month at MOST |
| [21:12:30] | sphery: | (or is that sneaky suspicion? whatever) |
| [21:12:34] | JEDIDIAH__: | of course they want to get rid of the unlimited accounts. |
| [21:12:37] | Saviq: | Seeker`: if you wanna talk about your receiver switching audio, I'm not in GB, but sure it happens here, too |
| [21:12:58] | JEDIDIAH__: | this all reminds me of what a cash cow text messaging is for them. |
| [21:13:06] | skd5aner: | I was just going to say that |
| [21:13:07] | sphery: | sneaking... "arrived at by tiny increments"--which fits :) |
| [21:13:18] | Beirdo: | especially if yer a teenage girl |
| [21:13:40] | skd5aner: | the cost of text message to cross their network is something like 1000x profit per text |
| [21:14:03] | Seeker`: | Saviq: any idea what is going on with the audio stream at that point, and how it might be detected? |
| [21:14:18] | sphery: | JEDIDIAH__: heh, yeah, I hate that... $4.95/mo for 400 text message service, of which I use about 40, because it's cheaper than $0.25/message |
| [21:14:27] | sphery: | and it costs them virtually nothing |
| [21:14:28] | Saviq: | Seeker`: what iamlindoro told you, different audio |
| [21:14:33] | JEDIDIAH__: | makes Compuserve and monopoly era international phone service seem positively cheap. |
| [21:14:35] | skd5aner: | sphery: anyway – just like you are with OTA, the only way to teach the mobile providers a lesson is to not do it – hence why I will not pay for tethering |
| [21:14:40] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: it costs more per byte (for the client) to send a text message than to communicate with deep space probes |
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| [21:14:57] | Saviq: | Seeker`: even mplayer will tell you when that happens |
| [21:15:05] | Saviq: | on a recording, that is |
| [21:15:07] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: ok? |
| [21:15:22] | sphery: | skd5aner: yep, me too... actually, I will not pay for a data plan on a smartphone, which means that since AT&T forces you to buy a data plan when you own a smartphone, I may be dumping my blackberry for a feature phone |
| [21:15:23] | Seeker`: | Saviq: yeah, just trying to work out how I can detect it |
| [21:15:41] | JEDIDIAH__: | sounds like a NASA fundraiser. |
| [21:15:42] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: just a tid bit on how much the phone companies are royally screwing customers |
| [21:15:57] | Saviq: | Seeker`: demuxer should tell you that |
| [21:16:00] | sphery: | oh, and I'll likely lose UMA/GAN access, anyway, since AT&T would rather every customer install their own femtocell, so no need for the blackberry once that's gone |
| [21:16:03] | Beirdo: | stop complaining and buy shares |
| [21:16:15] | skd5aner: | sphery: I got bit by that last august when I updated my ancient palm treo for an android device – data usage on the treo just used voice minutes, but they wouldn't let me upgrade with a $30/mo dataplan :/ |
| [21:16:33] | skd5aner: | and I didn't have the guts to go back to a feature phone |
| [21:16:35] | sphery: | you mean without buying? |
| [21:16:42] | sphery: | (without a $30/mo data plan) |
| [21:16:46] | JEDIDIAH__: | fat cats will even find a way to steal from the common man with the stock shares too... |
| [21:16:47] | skd5aner: | yes |
| [21:16:52] | sphery: | yeah... that's annoying |
| [21:17:10] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: ahh – gotcha, I think I read what you said wrong |
| [21:17:13] | Beirdo: | just buy NYSE:T |
| [21:17:19] | Beirdo: | get it over with. :) |
| [21:17:19] | sphery: | my phone choice, if AT&T's purchase is approved, will come down to "do I have to get a data plan with it" |
| [21:17:44] | JEDIDIAH__: | nah. buy land, gold and ammo. |
| [21:17:53] | skd5aner: | sphery: I was really close to going t-mobile |
| [21:18:00] | skd5aner: | kinda glad I didn't |
| [21:18:09] | skd5aner: | I wanted GSM, but wanted to avoid AT&T like the plauge |
| [21:18:13] | sphery: | skd5aner: heh, yeah, I thought wagnerrp was talking about network operation costs, not customer billing costs |
| [21:18:16] | skd5aner: | funny how that all panned out |
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| [21:18:34] | sphery: | skd5aner: that's how I arrived on T-Mo... GSM w/o AT&T |
| [21:18:37] | skd5aner: | sphery: me too :) |
| [21:19:05] | skd5aner: | yea, I love to travel, and while I don't make it overseas that often, I did want to have a phone that would work when/if I did |
| [21:19:19] | skd5aner: | then I got the droid 2, and then 2 months later, they replaced it with the droid 2 global :P |
| [21:19:27] | sphery: | JEDIDIAH__: wait, gold? you mean the bottlecaps I'm collecting aren't going to be more valuable than gold? |
| [21:19:52] | sphery: | great... /me types a very angry e-mail to Bethesda Softworks |
| [21:20:06] | skd5aner: | typical situation – sit on an ancient phone for 3.5 years, have everyone laugh at the brick you're carrying, then you get the BEST phone on the market the day it comes out, and BAM – they decide to replace it wth a model with global capabilities within 2 months |
| [21:20:12] | skd5aner: | that's the story of my life |
| [21:20:27] | Beirdo: | I still have my Nokia 8890 somewhere |
| [21:20:29] | sphery: | heh, yeah, that's the story of technology |
| [21:20:38] | Beirdo: | paid $800 for that little beast |
| [21:20:45] | sphery: | whatever you buy today is worth less tomorrow and worthless in a couple months |
| [21:21:02] | skd5aner: | Well, I mean – the droid incredible is still the same as it was for the past 11 months, original droid lasted almos a yeaer, droid X, hasn't had any changes since release |
| [21:21:18] | Beirdo: | whatever you buy today is worthless the second you walk outta the store |
| [21:21:27] | skd5aner: | I can understand /other/ phones coming out with newer/better features – but the same phone to be replaced within 2 months? |
| [21:21:37] | skd5aner: | that's a bit unprecedented from what I know |
| [21:21:50] | ** Beirdo shrugs :) ** | |
| [21:22:12] | skd5aner: | Reminds me of when I bought my first iPod before most people knew what an iPod was (and before there was an itunes for windows)... ordered it, and of course it shipped from China... |
| [21:22:31] | skd5aner: | however this was when SARS hit... so everything was in quarenteen |
| [21:22:43] | skd5aner: | Took 15 days for the shipment to get to me (was supposed to be 3) |
| [21:23:28] | skd5aner: | by the time I received the package, apple had updated my 30GB model (biggest at the time) and replaced it with a 40GB one – of course, it was past the 14 day guarentee policy they had |
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| [21:23:48] | Beirdo: | eyePod. |
| [21:23:49] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:23:52] | skd5aner: | no one at apple gave a crap that I had it for -1 days in my posession |
| [21:24:08] | Beirdo: | I still like the Futurama episode... |
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| [21:24:41] | ** Beirdo listens to some KLF ** | |
| [21:24:56] | skd5aner: | My wife still uses that ipod to this day, and the UI is way more responsive than any of hte newer ones – of course it's monocrhomatic and text only |
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| [21:25:53] | skd5aner: | moral of the story? don't every do anything against the "rules" or sphery will come and hunt you down – because he's not only on the side of "the man" – he /is/ THE MAN |
| [21:26:00] | skd5aner: | s/every/ever |
| [21:26:06] | skd5aner: | heh, j/k ; |
| [21:26:28] | sphery: | I still wish I had a cellphone as rock-solid stable as my old Nokia 8290--and I'd gladly do 84x48 monochrome display to get it |
| [21:26:58] | sphery: | skd5aner: so that's what they meant when people say, "You're than man!" |
| [21:27:11] | skd5aner: | I liked a few of my old nokia ones – like the i90 and i730 |
| [21:27:12] | Beirdo: | sphery: the 8890 was a slightly better one IIRC :) and an unlocked world phone |
| [21:27:16] | skd5aner: | i860, pretty good too |
| [21:27:35] | Beirdo: | I still have a couple 6190 in a box of crap somewhere |
| [21:27:40] | skd5aner: | I never had a nokia phone, but had a ton of others |
| [21:27:43] | sphery: | slide cover... no, that's less reliable! |
| [21:28:09] | Beirdo: | if you clean the contacts every 6 months or so, it gives no issues :) |
| [21:28:23] | sphery: | heh |
| [21:28:33] | ** skd5aner has the nokia ring tone stuck in his head now :/ ** | |
| [21:28:34] | sphery: | is it dishwasher safe? |
| [21:28:53] | Beirdo: | hehe, just needs a Q-tip and some rubbing alcohol |
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| [21:28:59] | Beirdo: | takes like 30s |
| [21:30:39] | Beirdo: | oooh, replacement beer shanks have been delivered :) |
| [21:31:00] | sphery: | beer shanks? |
| [21:31:13] | Beirdo: | yeah, the shanks to go through the fridge door |
| [21:31:16] | sphery: | is that what happens when you start the golf day at the 19th hole? |
| [21:31:49] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:31:58] | sphery: | ah, I see... didn't konw that's what they were called |
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| [21:35:26] | Beirdo: | yeah well :) |
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| [21:43:56] | Seeker`: | bah, I can't find anything that says how you are meant to detect the audio format change in recordings |
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| [22:03:39] | Seeker`: | anyone able to give me some more detailed information as to where I should start looking? |
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| [23:15:18] | Seeker`: | this is like looking for a needle in a haystack :/ |
| [23:15:39] | kormoc: | Good think you're the Seeker, searching low and high |
| [23:16:04] | wagnerrp: | is that some babylon 5 reference? |
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| [23:17:38] | Seeker`: | I wish i knew exactly what it was i am looking for |
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| [23:18:47] | Seeker`: | I know I need to find out how an TS signals that the audio format has changed |
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| [23:19:20] | Seeker`: | ideally, by finding a program that says "the audio format has changed on frame X", but I can't find anything that actually describes how it is signalled |
| [23:20:22] | Seeker`: | anyone got any hints at all? Where mythtv deals with it in the codebase would be really useful |
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| [23:31:52] | Seeker`: | noone? |
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| [23:34:38] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, A song, http://www.lyricsfreak.com/w/who/the+seeker_20146792.html |
| [23:34:52] | wagnerrp: | only a couple people know the ins and outs of myth's av code |
| [23:35:20] | kormoc: | Seeker`, you're likely best talking to the ffmpeg folks. we use their libavcodec for most of that stuff |
| [23:35:42] | Seeker`: | kormoc: tried asking in #ffmpeg and got totally ignored |
| [23:35:51] | kormoc: | mailing list? |
| [23:38:15] | Seeker`: | not tried that yet, was hoping to get something done this evening, rather than going round and round in circles :/ |
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| [23:39:11] | kormoc: | you could start digging into ffmpeg's code then |
| [23:39:14] | kormoc: | that's your best bet |
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