MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

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Current users (163):

aarcane, adante, aloril, Anduin, AndyCap, antgel, anykey_, Azelphur, BeholdMyGlory, Beirdo, benc_, blizzard1, BLZbubba, bobgill, bobnvic, brfransen, cafuego, Caliban, castlec1, chainsawbike, ChanServ, christ`, CiaranG, clever, clyons, ComradeHaz`, Cougar, croppa, d0netsFN, dagar, dansushi, DarthFrog, Dave123, Dave123-road, deaman, deathadder, dewman, disposab1e, Diverdude, dkeith, dlblog, dmz, dougl, drindt, emmanuelux, felipe`, Floppe, floppyears, GadgetWisdomGuru, ghoti, Gibby, gpd_, grantm, gregL, GreyFoxx, grumpydevil, Guest21357, hackman, hadees, Heliwr, highzeth, hobiga, Hoxzer, iamlindoro, ikonia, J-e-f-f-A, jamesd2, jams, jannau, jarle, jbrett, jcarlos, jduggan, JEDIDIAH__, johnf1911, jpabq, jpabq-, jstenback, justdave, justinh, justpaul, kabtoffe, KaZeR, kc, kloeri, knightr, kormoc, KraMer, kurre, LabMonkey, LedHed, Lord_Deathscythe, lotia-away, lwizardl, M0nk3Ee_, mag0o, markk_, MavT, Metoer, mhentges, MissionCritical, MMlosh, MythLogBot, mzb, npm, NRGizeR, Patina, paul-h, peterpops, pheld, pigeon, pizzledizzle, purserj, quicksilver, rdark, rellig, rhpot1991, Roedy, ruskie, russell5, RyeBrye, Shadow__X, sid3windr, simcop2387, skd5aner, Slim-Kimbo, smooph, sphery, Splat1, squidly, sraue, staylo, Sulx, sunkan, sutula, tank-man, Technophil, thefRont, ThisNewGuy, tictric_, toeb, tomaw, tomimo, toorima, tris, troyt, trumee, Twiggy2cents, ubIx_, Unhelpful, uW, wagnerrp, waxhead, wenko, weta, Wicked, xand, xris, xyzabc, zand, [R], _cal_, _charly_
Thursday, March 17th, 2011, 00:02 UTC
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[00:07:33] wagnerrp: what language uses a ladybug as its icon?
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[00:31:28] tgm4883: Whats the proper way for removing a duplicate movie from mythvideo? I have a few that show up twice, point to the same file and in the DB have the same hash
[00:35:37] kormoc: Beirdo, http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/What_Is_Truth_0x3f_.aspx
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[00:42:46] clever: kormoc: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Stand_Back,_I . . . cated!_.aspx
[00:42:50] ** clever shakes his head **
[00:47:46] clever: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Magic_Number_Superstition.aspx
[00:47:46] clever: :O
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[01:02:20] Beirdo: nice one, kormoc_afk :)
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[01:02:43] Beirdo: the package nazis almost didn't let me have my packages today
[01:03:07] Beirdo: because their boss decided 5:30pm was a good time for a conference call with only one person staffed
[01:03:22] Beirdo: and they close at 6pm right on the dot, normally
[01:03:39] Beirdo: I get there 5:50, "sorry, we're closed". Ummm, no you're not.
[01:06:47] Beirdo: woot. my DSO arrived, and an LP, and the rest of my kegerator parts.
[01:10:59] clever: :)
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[01:22:17] Beirdo: ok, now I'm pissed
[01:22:46] clever: ??
[01:23:04] Beirdo: the length of the shank... I assumed it was measured from the inside of the plastic flared washer.
[01:23:08] Beirdo: it's not
[01:23:20] Beirdo: it's from the back of the tap!
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[01:23:40] Beirdo: so the 2" shank... barely makes it through the 1" hole
[01:23:44] Beirdo: idiots
[01:23:51] Beirdo: so now I need to order new ones.
[01:23:59] clever: :(
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[01:24:59] Beirdo: so, I have 2 nice brass taps... and can't mount em yet
[01:25:24] clever: what are you making?
[01:25:32] clever: ah nvm, i remember
[01:26:08] Beirdo: well, I guess I can order the picnic taps too
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[01:47:59] Beirdo: https://picasaweb.google.com/1146434478520851 . . . 453744140402
[01:48:02] Beirdo: sigh
[01:53:18] clever: resolution is too poor, cant read your consoles!
[01:54:22] wagnerrp: dont worry, its just irc
[01:54:25] Beirdo: you'd see this IRC, and logs from mythbackend and a console in the mythtv build dir
[01:54:46] Beirdo: IRC is top left, so not visible :)
[01:54:47] Beirdo: hehe
[01:54:51] wagnerrp: that barely even looks threaded
[01:55:05] wagnerrp: thats not irc in the bottom left?
[01:55:14] Beirdo: nope
[01:55:22] Beirdo: that's the mythtv logs
[01:55:30] Beirdo: byobu styling on screen
[01:55:57] wagnerrp: yeah, thats like the shallowest thread ive ever seen
[01:56:13] Beirdo: hehe
[01:56:24] Beirdo: so it clears the hole by about 1/8"
[01:56:26] Beirdo: great
[01:56:27] Beirdo: heh
[01:56:31] Beirdo: ordering new ones
[01:57:06] Beirdo: and the picnic taps I forgot.
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[01:59:20] mycosys: cant countersink the underside of the hole to give you more thread depth?
[01:59:28] Beirdo: no
[01:59:32] mycosys: bugger
[01:59:36] Beirdo: I need another inch
[01:59:53] mycosys: doesnt have a metal skin u could go thru to?
[02:01:13] mycosys: other than ctrl-c lol
[02:01:30] mycosys: i generally just ssh in and do it if something is misbehaving
[02:02:52] mycosys: come across xpra/winswitch? aka screen for x? handy indeed
[02:03:11] wagnerrp: been using it for years
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[02:34:45] cesman: anyone have an HD PVR that gets pixelation (generally when coming back from commercials)?
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[02:45:20] wsuetholz: hello, I have two frontends both with mceusb remotes purchased together.. One is working and the other is not..
[02:45:27] wsuetholz: Things I've done are:
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[02:46:06] wsuetholz: Copied the entries from the working system from the jumppoints and keybindings tables, after editting the hostname.
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[02:46:24] wsuetholz: verified with irw that things are the same, and that the signals are being interpreted..
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[02:46:52] wsuetholz: verified that the keystrokes defined in the lircrc for the prog=myth work from a keyboard
[02:47:17] wsuetholz: I have sumchecked the lircd.conf and the lircrc files being used, and they are identical
[02:49:28] wsuetholz: I run mythwelcome on both machines.. One of the keys not working is the OK key which should be sending "Return" It does not work in either mythwelcome or mythfrontend
[02:49:50] wsuetholz: Some keys do work, like Left, Right, Up, Down, Mute, ...
[02:50:30] wsuetholz: What I really need to know, is what verbose option can I set in mythfrontend to show me the keys being received?
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[02:50:58] wsuetholz: I have turned on the database debugging, which is how I determined the two tables above.
[02:51:21] wsuetholz: I have rebooted the fe recently as well.
[03:12:30] cesman: wsuetholz: are the remotes identical?
[03:12:42] cesman: if so, have you switch them?
[03:12:49] cesman: perhaps you have a hardware problem
[03:16:04] wsuetholz: yes, I have 3 of the remotes, and kind of use them interchangeably
[03:16:15] wsuetholz: as I wander aimlessly around the house......
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[03:16:33] wsuetholz: I did all the tests with the same remote.
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[03:28:20] Beirdo: OK, time to go decide where to put this regulator in the fridge
[03:29:30] mag0o: regulator? mount up!
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[04:01:36] clever: Beirdo: http://benkrasnow.blogspot.com/2010/12/instal . . . y-house.html
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[08:39:22] markk_: stuartm: any views on adding a MythUIVisualiser widget to libmythui? I have something fleshed out – just not sure what the best solution is...
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[13:05:37] wsuetholz: Is there any setting to mythfrontend that will log the keystrokes received?
[13:05:55] wsuetholz: I have tried a -v all,extra and didn't see them.
[13:06:21] wsuetholz: I'm trying to track down a weird problem on one of my newer fe's
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[13:28:53] justinh: wsuetholz: not as far as I'm aware
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[15:52:59] wagnerrp: quiet day
[15:55:13] skd5aner: I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT?!
[15:55:16] skd5aner: LOUD NOISES!
[15:58:25] wagnerrp: where did you get a hand grenade?
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[16:14:34] wagnerrp: heh, theyre making a prequel to The Thing
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[16:18:07] skd5aner: I don't know
[16:18:17] skd5aner: (a little late with the response)
[16:18:47] skd5aner: anyway – just noticed that March Madness on Demand (MMOD) switched from silverlight to flash for the first time in the last 4 years
[16:18:53] wagnerrp: the thing? or the hand grenade?
[16:19:20] skd5aner: hand grenade – Bricks response to the question was "I... Don't... Know"
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[16:20:26] skd5aner: I would love it if MNV had an MMOD grabber – maybe a good research project for me
[16:21:12] wagnerrp: well youve got two weeks to get it running
[16:21:15] wagnerrp: go!
[16:21:23] skd5aner: Well, first tip off was 10 mins ago
[16:21:52] wagnerrp: or maybe tuesday
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[16:22:08] wagnerrp: unless youre one of those who believes they still only have 64 teams
[16:22:16] skd5aner: I do
[16:22:19] wagnerrp: heh
[16:22:27] skd5aner: because, the rest are just "play-in" games basically
[16:22:45] wagnerrp: yeah, and will lose in the first round anyway
[16:22:54] skd5aner: that's the weird thing
[16:22:59] skd5aner: last year they had 2 play in games for 16'th seeds
[16:23:27] skd5aner: but this year, they ahve a play in game for 16, 16, 12, and 11 seeds
[16:23:35] skd5aner: why? I have no idea
[16:23:51] skd5aner: I would think if you are good enough to be an 11'th seed, why do you have to play you way in
[16:23:54] skd5aner: like Clemson did?
[16:24:04] skd5aner: (although they are 12'th seed)
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[16:24:36] skd5aner: http://www.ncaa.com/mmod-developers
[16:24:47] wagnerrp: maybe the last 16 teams are all ones who really shouldnt be in the tournament, but got an automatic bid from their conference championship?
[16:26:42] wagnerrp: HAHAHAHA
[16:26:48] wagnerrp: 'boss button'
[16:28:04] skd5aner: heh – yea, they've had that for years – it used to be a spreadsheet – this year it's a fake email client
[16:28:10] skd5aner: :)
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[16:32:23] skd5aner: hrm... only javascript – no RSS feeds or anything
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[16:37:53] skd5aner: in 0.24 the MNV scripts are actuall provided via the backend correct?
[16:38:04] skd5aner: via internetconnect?
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[16:44:25] sphery: wagnerrp: I'm trying to tell the "[mythtv-users] Tuner Schedules" guy (who wants to tell MythTV his tuner(s) is not available during the time period when his family watches TV, so they can watch TV direct from the STB) not to go messing with the DB. I was trying to find the Python bindings command that corresponds to MythProto LOCK_TUNER, and I noticed that the description of ...
[16:44:31] sphery: ... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/0.24_Python_bindin . . . entRecording is wrong and http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/0.24_Python_bindin . . . rs#lockTuner doesn't mention that it also allows specifying a cardid to request that the backend lock the tuner.
[16:45:14] sphery: I can make changes if you like, but didn't know if you wanted to clean it up. (getCurrentRecording seems to be a copy/paste/forgot-to-change error)
[16:47:31] wagnerrp: note that the lock is not persistent
[16:47:42] wagnerrp: the tuner is automatically unlocked as soon as the client disconnects
[16:47:59] wagnerrp: he must keep python open, and the connection sustained, for the duration of the lock
[16:48:08] sphery: ahhh, so they'd have to write the script to keep a monitor connection open?
[16:48:20] wagnerrp: some sort of connection
[16:48:27] wagnerrp: thats not the backend's doing, thats my doing
[16:48:35] sphery: this is why I didn't just change the page :)
[16:48:46] sphery: figured you'd know all sorts of stuff I don't that's important
[16:48:53] wagnerrp: i have it in the destructor to unlock anything prior to closing the connection
[16:52:31] sphery: are you going to update the page or do you want me to do so?
[16:52:48] sphery: also, this is the right approach for that, right? Or do you have a higher-level approach?
[16:53:14] wagnerrp: no, thats it
[16:53:24] wagnerrp: if youre doing something low level like manually locking a tuner
[16:53:32] wagnerrp: you cant really have a higher level approach
[16:58:54] sphery: does IPTV support channel change scripts?
[17:00:26] wagnerrp: i dont think so
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[17:00:41] wagnerrp: youre talking about some need to 'prime' the channel, outside of just accessing the link?
[17:01:11] sphery: I was thinking it did... Just thinking it sounds more like what the guy in #9669 wants--even though he said that Demo tuner is what he wants, not IPTV.
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[17:01:50] sphery: I have no proof, though, and since Grey Foxx's VLC multirec page was deleted from the wiki, I don't have any references I trust (and don't care enough to trace the code :)
[17:02:09] wagnerrp: want a copy of it?
[17:02:23] sphery: it's not actually gone?
[17:02:30] wagnerrp: nothing is ever gone
[17:02:35] wagnerrp: whats the link?
[17:03:29] sphery: formerly http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Multiple . . . ngs_with_VLC
[17:03:41] sphery: ooh, it's there
[17:03:43] wagnerrp: ah, this was pre-multirec
[17:03:43] sphery: nvm
[17:03:47] sphery: yeah
[17:03:54] sphery: not deleted
[17:03:56] wagnerrp: sounds like my work is done
[17:03:58] sphery: so it's even better :)
[17:04:12] sphery: I can ref the page if it has the info I need!
[17:04:53] sphery: Should have known not to trust my memory + in-wiki search, and should have just searched my IRC logs
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[17:08:10] sphery: no reference to channel change scripts, so I think you're right
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[17:27:51] skd5aner: sphery: heh – I noticed markk was the last hold out when I was going throug the commit logs the other day in using the hooks :)
[17:28:58] wagnerrp: sphery: while it doesnt technically say it supports specifying the tuner in use, what else would the input be for?
[17:29:18] wagnerrp: it works... AND it sets the milestone
[17:30:21] sphery: wagnerrp: well, "Returns information about" doesn't say, "allows you to lock the tuner, as long as you keep the connection open" :)
[17:31:35] sphery: just figured making it more newbie-friendly would be nice
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[17:34:20] sphery: skd5aner: yeah, I figured he probably missed the message that they're working, again
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[17:34:30] skd5aner: :)
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[17:37:20] wagnerrp: plus, i said they were working, and promptly broke them again
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[17:42:52] skd5aner: anyone know if editing custom recordings via mythweb is safe? for some reason I thought it didn't work properly in the past?
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[17:46:44] DarthFrog: Hi folks, ever since upgrading my desktop machine and backend server to v 0.24+fixes (Ubuntu), I can no longer watch MythTV on my desktop machine. The screen dims and looks washed out, sound plays but no video. Any ideas?
[17:47:06] skd5aner: also, if I want to write a custom rule to only record if it is showing on Saturday or Sunday, how could I do that?
[17:47:14] skd5aner: or, Friday, Saturday, Sunday
[17:48:07] wagnerrp: a bunch of SQL ORs
[17:48:50] sphery: skd5aner: I edit them, but I never create them, using MythWeb
[17:49:13] skd5aner: sphery: good deal – yea, seems WAY easier to edit this way, I've just always used the frontend UI for both
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[17:49:44] sphery: skd5aner: yeah, I recommend you start it in mythfrontend, and use the mythfrontend example clauses to get something close, then edit it with the mythweb text box
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[17:50:38] sphery: skd5aner: and for your 2nd question, see the mythfrontend example clause, "Only on weekends"
[17:50:45] skd5aner: it respects order of operations with () correct?
[17:51:03] skd5aner: I see – DAYNAME(program.starttime) = "Sunday"
[17:51:05] sphery: it's just SQL, so if used as SQL expects, it will :)
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[17:51:26] sphery: skd5aner: see the example
[17:51:31] sphery: it has exactly what you want
[17:51:35] skd5aner: thanks
[17:53:02] skd5aner: sphery: are the examples stored in the database, or in the code?
[17:53:20] skd5aner: I don't have easy access to a frontend right now
[17:53:41] sphery: wagnerrp: thanks for fixing those descriptions. I would have gotten it wrong (I let the existing description confuse me into forgetting the "or automatically chooses one if none specified" part.
[17:53:56] sphery: in code
[17:54:06] sphery: WEEKDAY(program.starttime) >= 5
[17:54:31] skd5aner: sphery: thanks... I was trying to find it :)
[17:54:41] sphery: but you'll want 4 for friday, too
[17:54:54] skd5aner: yea
[17:55:07] skd5aner: is there a good place to search through the code?
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[17:55:44] sphery: customedit.cpp
[17:55:53] skd5aner: http://www.cuymedia.net/mythtv-0.24/customedit_8cpp-source.html
[17:55:57] sphery: a better solution is to use the frontend :)
[17:55:59] skd5aner: found it on daniels site
[17:56:15] skd5aner: sphery: "better" for sure – but not "easier" right now
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[18:00:12] sphery: "IE9 was downloaded 2.3 million times in 24 hours"... No way? You mean with the MS Windows default of running Windows Update automatically, a Windows Update got downloaded a lot of times in 24 hrs?
[18:01:09] sphery: ah, they haven't put it on Windows Update, yet... That's not 'til Mar 21
[18:02:57] DarthFrog: Is there any known issues with MythTV and the ATI fglrx drivers?
[18:03:37] wagnerrp: no, but there are plenty of known issues with the ATI fglrx drivers
[18:03:37] sphery: more issues with the fglrx drivers
[18:03:49] sphery: but they may or may not be important to your usage of MythTV
[18:04:05] wagnerrp: as in 'avoid at all costs'
[18:04:07] sphery: specific questions will likely get better answers
[18:04:13] DarthFrog: Hmm. Perhaps I should try other drivers.
[18:04:14] wagnerrp: the 'cost' being that of an nvidia card
[18:04:55] sphery: DarthFrog: better would be other graphics cards
[18:05:25] sphery: I use AMD graphics on all my systems--except my mythfrontend systems, which all have nvidia graphics
[18:05:39] sphery: and there's a very good reason for that
[18:05:54] DarthFrog: sphery: Well perhaps but I have this Radeon 5770 card and it works well otherwise. It was working fine with MythTV until I upgraded to v 0.24.
[18:06:49] ** DarthFrog reminds himself of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!" and knows he'll continue to ignore it. :-) **
[18:07:30] skd5aner: sphery: just wanted to let you know those changes solved the issues I had been seeing in one of my existing custom recording rules for a few years
[18:07:30] skd5aner: thanks
[18:07:57] sphery: I'd say that card would be better used in a Windows gaming machine and a $30 nvidia card would make your mythfrontend /much/ more useful and easier to configure
[18:09:04] DarthFrog: sphery: They are one and the same machine.
[18:09:11] sphery: skd5aner: glad you have it working
[18:09:16] skd5aner: I LOVE the custom rules
[18:09:34] skd5aner: it's one of the coolest, stand-apart features that MythTV dominates over all the other DVRs out there
[18:09:44] DarthFrog: Is it possible to revert from 0.24 back to 0.32?
[18:09:52] skd5aner: heh... .32
[18:09:53] DarthFrog: err, 0.23
[18:10:01] skd5aner: only if you have a DB backup
[18:10:05] skd5aner: prior to the upgrade
[18:10:18] skd5aner: downgrading is not supported
[18:10:26] skd5aner: (without a db backup/restore)
[18:10:36] DarthFrog: skd5aner: Can I do a db dump and then rebuild the db?
[18:10:50] skd5aner: manually change it?
[18:10:52] skd5aner: not likely
[18:11:03] wagnerrp: you already have a dump, from when you upgraded
[18:11:11] skd5aner: yea, exactly...
[18:11:23] skd5aner: mythtv automatically creates a backup when you upgraded
[18:11:32] skd5aner: it probably stored it in your default storage group
[18:11:43] DarthFrog: I'll see if I can find it.
[18:12:10] skd5aner: obviously, you'll lose anything that has changed since the upgrade – recordings, rules, etc
[18:12:46] DarthFrog: Hmm, that's no good either. :-(
[18:13:24] DarthFrog: Maybe I should export all my recordings as mytharchives then totally rebuild the machine and re-import the mytharchives?
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[18:15:01] JEDIDIAH__: the nv430 seems to be favorite card these days and also seems to make a respectable gaming card too.
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[18:18:51] wagnerrp: the GT430 is preferred if you intend to do bluray with HDMI audio
[18:19:07] wagnerrp: if you just want full use of VDPAU, a GT220 is sufficient
[18:19:18] wagnerrp: and if you just want a graphics card, you can find GT210s for <$30
[18:20:22] skd5aner: DarthFrog: better question is – why do you want to downgrade?
[18:20:41] JEDIDIAH__: It also runs Oil Rush respectably well (nv430)
[18:21:16] skd5aner: oh, because of the graphic card
[18:21:27] skd5aner: yea – get a gt220/gt430
[18:22:28] JEDIDIAH__: if you get anything like a 2x0 or newer, then you need to make sure you've got a sufficiently up to date version of ALSA for HDMI audio.
[18:22:49] wagnerrp: plus the GT line doesnt do analog TV outputs
[18:22:53] wagnerrp: digital only (and VGA)
[18:27:01] skd5aner: yea, that part really frustrates me
[18:27:09] skd5aner: wish I could get them with component out :(
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[18:28:38] wagnerrp: you can, just an HD Fury away
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[19:03:05] Pr0jectRec0n: hello
[19:03:26] Pr0jectRec0n: I'm getting Verizon FiOS double play (TV + internet)
[19:03:42] Pr0jectRec0n: is there a way I can buy a cheap/used DVR for use with verizon FiOS over ebay ?
[19:03:58] wagnerrp: what does this have to do with mythtv?
[19:04:27] Pr0jectRec0n: wagnerrp, sadly, it doesn't, but I couldnt find a channel for generic TV queries
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[19:04:35] Pr0jectRec0n: wagnerrp, My apologies..
[19:05:24] wagnerrp: if you want to build one, using mythtv, we can assist with that
[19:05:30] wagnerrp: but this is not a general help channel
[19:05:45] Pr0jectRec0n: wagnerrp, I'm sorry I'll go somewhere else
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[19:22:44] ComradeHaz`: desire
[19:24:18] wagnerrp: uh huh...
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[19:46:20] skd5aner: ahhh – memories – IE 1 --> IE 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5QqYVurImY&am . . . yer_embedded
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[19:54:21] wagnerrp: skd5aner: memories of... searching for horse porn on bing?
[19:54:47] skd5aner: don't have IE9, so can't say I have that memory as the demo guy seems to show
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[19:57:48] wagnerrp: you only do searches for catherine the great?
[19:58:46] skd5aner: only in the 90's
[19:59:18] skd5aner: also, nothing I ever had was licensed to shitballs – although it probably should have been
[19:59:49] wagnerrp: i had an old desktop named s**tbox
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[20:00:59] xyzabc: I am running fc13, I just did a yum remove pulseaudio....now I am trying to get the sound to work. I tried changing the audio output device from "pulseaudio:default" to alsa:default, but so far no sound
[20:01:16] xyzabc: how do I now what to set
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[20:05:22] xyzabc: the audio was out of sync with the video with pulse audio installed, but now I have no sound at all
[20:05:34] xyzabc: should be a way to set it up to use alsa or something
[20:06:54] wagnerrp: you were technically already using ALSA before
[20:08:26] xyzabc: so removing pulseaudio won't help the out of sync audio then
[20:08:41] wagnerrp: no, im saying that pulseaudio has no hardware support
[20:08:58] wagnerrp: so you were sending sound to pulse, pulse was screwing up your sync, and then sending sound to alsa
[20:09:18] wagnerrp: by uninstalling pulse, you just got rid of a completely unnecessary middle man
[20:09:56] xyzabc: o.k. so now that pulse has been uninstalled how do I fix mythtv to send sound directly to alsa
[20:10:16] xyzabc: as I mentioned I tried changing the default to alsa:default but that didn't do anything
[20:10:28] wagnerrp: why its not working now... cant say
[20:10:57] xyzabc: can you send sound directly to alsa with pulseaudio installed
[20:11:05] xyzabc: is there any need for me to remove it
[20:11:13] wagnerrp: you must disable it first
[20:12:55] xyzabc: seems then like there is probably something that needs to be configured at the OS level
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[20:17:20] xyzabc: o.k. if I try mplayer whatever.mp3 I get /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed from the alsa-lib
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[20:17:39] xyzabc: failed to initialize audio driver alsa
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[20:18:17] xyzabc: that is strange
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[20:25:02] JEDIDIAH__: aplay is the way to sort this out.
[20:25:22] JEDIDIAH__: you can test audio and see what devices are defined.
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[21:19:34] BeholdMyGlory: Looking at the MythTV wiki, it seems MythTV works with the Hauppauge HD-PVR, but (assuming this kind of hardware is interesting for the MythTV project) does the Hauppauge Colossus work with MythTV? If not, is anyone working on it?
[21:20:05] [R]: what is that?
[21:20:25] [R]: oh, theres no linux drivers for that one yet
[21:20:33] [R]: first we need linux drivers, tehn you need to worry about mtyhtv support
[21:20:50] sphery: maybe it's a big statue of Helios?
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[21:23:23] BeholdMyGlory: [R]: In that case, would you (or anyone else here) know how to find out if anyone is working on a driver, and if so where one could find the project?
[21:23:55] sphery: linuxtv guys are the ones who do drivers
[21:24:08] sphery: !url tuners
[21:24:09] MythLogBot: tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information
[21:24:25] BeholdMyGlory: Ah, okay, thanks
[21:24:38] sphery: no mention of Colossus on their web site, yet, though
[21:24:58] iamlindoro: And per the linuxTV people, it is likely to be a long, long time before there is any linux support, thanks to the manufacturer of the chipset
[21:25:26] BeholdMyGlory: Doesn't seem to be any information at all about the colossus on the whole wiki
[21:25:45] iamlindoro: There's little point in there being any, since you can't get one yet
[21:26:14] iamlindoro: ah, look at that, maybe they have come out indeed
[21:26:22] iamlindoro: anyway, no support in linux, not likely to be for a long time, if ever
[21:26:45] sphery: BeholdMyGlory: see, also, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/470744#470744 (and note that the reply is from one of the guys writing drivers)
[21:27:15] sphery: and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/470753#470753 that for some reason broke into a new thread
[21:27:31] sphery: and the whole thread at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/467420#467420
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[21:30:40] BeholdMyGlory: Well, that kind of sucks. You guys wouldn't know of another internal capture card that can record HD video from HDMI and component and that supports Linux? Or, well, the HD component part is most important for me I guess.
[21:30:52] BeholdMyGlory: Would the Hauppauge HD-PVR be the best bet?
[21:30:59] iamlindoro: The HD-PVR would be your only bet
[21:31:20] sphery: unless you go windows and something other than MythTV
[21:32:37] BeholdMyGlory: Well, considering I use Linux as the main OS for all my computers I'd rather not have to boot into Windows just for recording
[21:33:01] iamlindoro: You can have any capture card you want, so long as it's an HD-PVR
[21:33:19] wagnerrp: sphery: except... a mythtv dev did the hdpvr driver
[21:33:26] wagnerrp: :)
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[21:34:28] sphery: wagnerrp: but he did it with/through the linuxtv stuff :)
[21:34:44] sphery: MythTV is not the creator nor maintainer of that driver!
[21:35:05] wagnerrp: well you could just as well say the ffmpeg guys did it
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[21:35:37] sphery: as long as you don't say that it's our responsibility, I'm happy
[21:36:18] wagnerrp: this 'identify the connector' thread has gotten far out of control
[21:37:19] sphery: wow, that sprung up (and exploded) quickly
[21:37:46] wagnerrp: BeholdMyGlory: you can get an internal HDPVR
[21:38:15] BeholdMyGlory: wagnerrp: Any suggestions on products?
[21:38:24] BeholdMyGlory: Specific products, I mean
[21:38:33] wagnerrp: the Hauppauge HDPVR, and a drill press
[21:38:44] wagnerrp: maybe a soldering iron
[21:38:45] [R]: wagnerrp: lol
[21:38:51] wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mounting_the_HD-PVR_Internally
[21:38:58] iamlindoro: No soldering iron needed, just some little monoprice cables
[21:39:15] sphery: wagnerrp: if only manufacturers distributed documentation with their hardware and/or put up websites with information
[21:39:17] wagnerrp: they actually sell a molex --> DC cable?
[21:39:21] BeholdMyGlory: Haha, not quite what I had in mind
[21:39:21] iamlindoro: molex crimp tool helps, but you don't have to have that either
[21:39:48] iamlindoro: wagnerrp: Nah, but only need pliers to make one, assuming you strip an existing DC cable
[21:39:48] wagnerrp: yeah, i was thinking soldering iron to splice together a power cable
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[23:53:48] lwizardl: would questions for plugin/addons dev be for this channel or the dev only channel
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