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| [01:10:15] | sphery: | Heh, news teaser from last night. "How your kids can get an education without going to class," cut to interview with college-aged girl sitting in front of a computer, "It's much more simple than going to class." |
| [01:12:19] | [R]: | haha |
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| [01:14:29] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Hurley's on Fringe! |
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| [01:28:59] | wagnerrp: | hurley? |
| [01:29:19] | sphery: | from Lost |
| [01:29:40] | sphery: | seems it was just a bit part, but still cool |
| [01:29:47] | wagnerrp: | never watched lost |
| [01:30:19] | sphery: | J.J. is keeping them busy |
| [01:30:26] | sphery: | how did you not watch lost |
| [01:31:05] | wagnerrp: | because being an aerospace engineer, the entire concept of them somehow crash landing a thousand miles from where their aircraft broken in half put me off |
| [01:31:22] | sphery: | heh |
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| [04:19:14] | Perdignus: | Hello – I lost the recoding thumbnails in MythWeb as well as the link where the thumbnail normally is. Is there a current issue with MythWeb or have I managed to unknowling mess something up? |
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| [04:38:00] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: you in? |
| [04:38:53] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [04:38:59] | wagnerrp: | the commflagger will return an error status of the number of commercial breaks it detected |
| [04:39:05] | Beirdo: | correct |
| [04:39:14] | wagnerrp: | meaning mythsystem will always see it as a failed process |
| [04:39:20] | Beirdo: | wrong |
| [04:39:21] | wagnerrp: | (unless of course there were no detected commercial breaks) |
| [04:39:31] | clever: | that may also explain why i see ~250 comercial breaks found sometimes |
| [04:39:40] | Beirdo: | mythsystem returns the exit code |
| [04:39:44] | clever: | an actual error return code, being falsely read as a comericial count |
| [04:40:11] | Beirdo: | if there's an error, it returns a value > 127 |
| [04:40:39] | wagnerrp: | but the signal manager sends an error() if status != 0 |
| [04:40:55] | Beirdo: | and nobody's listening to that signal |
| [04:40:59] | wagnerrp: | i will be |
| [04:41:02] | Beirdo: | not in commflag anyways |
| [04:41:08] | Beirdo: | well then don't :) |
| [04:41:18] | wagnerrp: | well... i need to |
| [04:41:30] | wagnerrp: | i guess ill be altering the commflagger then... :) |
| [04:41:39] | clever: | hmmm, i remember seeing it but dont see it in mythlog |
| [04:41:42] | wagnerrp: | i can handle it normally for now anyway |
| [04:41:43] | Beirdo: | Hmm, well, let's figure out what the options are |
| [04:42:02] | wagnerrp: | right now, ive got commflagging, transcoding, and user jobs all feeding to their own slots |
| [04:42:08] | Beirdo: | or just make your error handler smarter :) |
| [04:42:15] | wagnerrp: | so i can have specialized handling for the commflag 'error' |
| [04:42:26] | Beirdo: | i.e. if you get signaled an error, look at the value |
| [04:42:38] | Beirdo: | we can rework the pile of it later of course |
| [04:42:55] | wagnerrp: | rather we rework commflag |
| [04:42:58] | wagnerrp: | but that will come later |
| [04:43:01] | wagnerrp: | s/we/i/ |
| [04:43:17] | wagnerrp: | i just want to get the new system running for now |
| [04:43:31] | wagnerrp: | it can be improved later |
| [04:43:36] | Beirdo: | K |
| [04:43:49] | Beirdo: | yeah, it can get reworked again anyways |
| [04:43:53] | wagnerrp: | i did add nice and ioprio handling to mythsystem though |
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| [04:44:28] | Beirdo: | basically: 0–127 = count of commercials, 128+ = errors |
| [04:44:39] | Beirdo: | oh yeah? Cool. |
| [04:44:41] | wagnerrp: | just two commands hanging off MythSystem that run virtual commands in MythSystemPrivate |
| [04:45:04] | Beirdo: | don't forget Winders support :) |
| [04:45:12] | wagnerrp: | they return false if the job has already started, or if the Private doesnt support it (windows) |
| [04:45:33] | wagnerrp: | ill add SetPriorityClass() stuff to windows later |
| [04:45:43] | wagnerrp: | but thats going to need some translation to windows values |
| [04:45:52] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [04:46:23] | wagnerrp: | for now, it basically just says 'cant do that' and continues |
| [04:47:39] | wagnerrp: | and there are similar big warnings for myth_nice and myth_ioprio about not using QT stuff |
| [04:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh. fun |
| [04:48:55] | wagnerrp: | well with luck, ill have the client written up before i go to bed |
| [04:49:00] | wagnerrp: | didnt get much done, company over |
| [04:49:09] | Beirdo: | these things happen :) |
| [04:49:32] | Beirdo: | I made a schematic and layout for my temperature sensors for the kegerator |
| [04:49:58] | Beirdo: | the boards will be 0.8" x 0.8" |
| [04:50:05] | wagnerrp: | going to burn your own circuitboard? or just use protoboard? |
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| [04:50:32] | Beirdo: | I just have to make sure I left the proper amount of space around the USB connectors |
| [04:50:46] | Beirdo: | gonna see if I can find a cheap place to get them made |
| [04:50:51] | Beirdo: | (2-sided) |
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| [05:00:01] | Beirdo: | then I need to make the main receiver that gets hooked to a linux box of some sorts |
| [05:01:06] | clever: | Beirdo: have you seen batchpcb.com ? |
| [05:01:38] | Beirdo: | I've looked at a buttload of sites, probably |
| [05:02:54] | Beirdo: | that's a strong possibility |
| [05:02:57] | clever: | i'm just using a breadboard for my temperature sensors |
| [05:04:40] | clever: | all the sensors come into the breadboard thru a 3 wire bus (vcc,data,gnd) |
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| [05:16:08] | jstenback_: | is it just me or is schedule direct's data off by an hour today? |
| [05:16:35] | wagnerrp: | heh.... hehehehe... |
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| [05:16:37] | wagnerrp: | HAHAHAHAHAHHA |
| [05:17:49] | jstenback: | it's as if it changed the time one day early... |
| [05:18:04] | ** wagnerrp prods sphery ** | |
| [05:18:11] | wagnerrp: | its.... STARTING! |
| [05:19:54] | Perdignus: | Hello – I lost the recoding thumbnails in MythWeb as well as the link where the thumbnail normally is. Is there a current issue with MythWeb or have I managed to unknowling mess something up? |
| [05:22:06] | ** [R] laughs at all the fools who have to deal with DST ** | |
| [05:23:07] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [05:23:13] | Beirdo: | here we go again! |
| [05:26:05] | Beirdo: | ah crud. |
| [05:26:05] | clever: | [R]: basketball upset channel 12 by a whole 40 minutes tonight |
| [05:26:12] | clever: | every show began, and ended 40mins late |
| [05:26:21] | Beirdo: | OK, I need to rework this connector |
| [05:26:25] | [R]: | spots suck |
| [05:26:29] | [R]: | sports* |
| [05:26:33] | clever: | your average soft/hard-pad is useless when sports kick in |
| [05:26:40] | Beirdo: | I guess I get to learn how to create a footprint now |
| [05:26:51] | [R]: | sports preempting real stuff should be illegal |
| [05:26:55] | wagnerrp: | yeah, this month is going to be a fun one |
| [05:27:05] | clever: | Beirdo: eagle? |
| [05:27:11] | wagnerrp: | [R]: surely viewers would rather watch the sound of music |
| [05:27:15] | [R]: | Beirdo: step 1... put on a shoe step 2... step down step 3... profit |
| [05:27:27] | [R]: | wagnerrp: lol |
| [05:29:36] | clever: | Beirdo: http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/110 |
| [05:30:35] | Beirdo: | using geda/pcb |
| [05:30:44] | Beirdo: | I have the instructions. Still bleh |
| [05:30:57] | clever: | ah |
| [05:31:15] | Beirdo: | oh great. |
| [05:31:21] | Beirdo: | original diagram's in mm |
| [05:31:30] | Beirdo: | the definition file... 1/100 mill |
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| [07:01:13] | msnj: | anyone got suggestions on where to start troubleshooting that mythtv can't change channels |
| [07:03:33] | mycosys: | check u rnt recording |
| [07:03:49] | msnj: | nah, not recording |
| [07:04:07] | msnj: | it thinks it's changing channels but the video stays the same |
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| [08:54:44] | ** mycosys idly ponders how many mythtv servers are sli capable ** | |
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| [09:43:03] | kormoc: | mycosys, none currently. We're hosted in rackspace's cloud at the moment. |
| [09:43:24] | mycosys: | aqs in the people who use it |
| [09:43:44] | mycosys: | server ~= backend |
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| [09:45:31] | Beirdo: | OK, redid that circuit board. |
| [09:45:39] | Beirdo: | now 0.9" x 0.9" |
| [09:46:52] | kormoc: | mycosys, capable? check yourself http://smolt.mythtv.org using? none. There's no point |
| [09:47:19] | mycosys: | of course there is no point to using it |
| [09:47:46] | mycosys: | the extra x16s could be handy tho, drive an extra x server/vid card, use it for a raid card etc |
| [09:48:24] | kormoc: | SLI != more then one x16 pci-e port |
| [09:48:43] | mycosys: | jesus h christ |
| [09:49:22] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow ** | |
| [09:49:26] | Beirdo: | I think I shall go to bed |
| [09:49:30] | mycosys: | i am WELL aware of this |
| [09:49:42] | kormoc: | so... say what you mean and mean what you say? |
| [09:50:11] | mycosys: | as well as the competing crossfie, most of supermicro and dell and tyan and etc etc etc server boards have multiple x16s and no sli capability |
| [09:50:57] | mycosys: | was just idle speculation about hom many sli mobos end up in myth servers |
| [09:52:47] | mycosys: | no idea how smolt would give me the info either |
| [09:52:55] | kormoc: | you can look up chipsets |
| [09:53:17] | mycosys: | god that would take a while – there are a LOT |
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| [15:18:17] | johd: | anybody using inputlirc here? |
| [15:18:28] | johd: | I have setup inputlirc and irw shows, that it gets the event |
| [15:18:34] | johd: | but mythtv does not react |
| [15:19:04] | johd: | I have added the names IRW gives me for the keys to the lircrc |
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| [15:39:38] | wagnerrp: | johd: to which lircrc specifically? |
| [15:40:51] | johd: | wagnerrp, in the .mythtv/lircrc |
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| [15:41:18] | johd: | in the .mythtv directory, path: .mythtv/lircrc |
| [15:41:20] | wagnerrp: | and youve restarted mythfrontend? |
| [15:41:33] | wagnerrp: | and thats specifically ~/.mythtv/lircrc? |
| [15:41:43] | johd: | yepp |
| [15:41:48] | johd: | restarted all services |
| [15:41:51] | johd: | even rebooted |
| [15:41:59] | johd: | inputlircd is running |
| [15:42:14] | johd: | when running irw, I can see the events |
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| [15:45:54] | johd: | shouldn't mythtv detect the same events as irw? |
| [15:46:12] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [15:46:30] | wagnerrp: | check your frontend logs to see why its not responding |
| [15:47:36] | johd: | I have not added anyhting in lircd.conf though |
| [15:47:45] | johd: | *anything |
| [15:48:23] | wagnerrp: | you dont need to it lirc comes with all the necessary codes |
| [15:49:00] | johd: | I thought so, otherwise irw wouldn't show this output |
| [15:54:03] | clever: | johd: check the frontend logs closely and make sure its able to connect to lircd |
| [15:54:39] | johd: | clever, it works fine with my default IR remote |
| [15:54:48] | johd: | as soon as I stop inputlirc and use lirc only |
| [15:54:56] | johd: | everything works fine |
| [15:55:40] | johd: | lircd only: irw detects default remote, works in frontend |
| [15:55:47] | clever: | feels like the socket path to me |
| [15:56:07] | johd: | inputlirc: irw detects new remote, does not work in frontend |
| [15:56:26] | johd: | clever, would irw work then? |
| [15:56:37] | clever: | irw may try more paths then mythfe |
| [15:57:45] | johd: | hmm |
| [15:57:55] | clever: | mythfe should atleast complain to the log when it fails to connect |
| [15:59:03] | johd: | not it doesn't |
| [15:59:06] | johd: | *no |
| [15:59:16] | clever: | does it say it connected without a problem? |
| [15:59:36] | johd: | LIRC: Successfully initialized with.... |
| [15:59:58] | johd: | clever, yes |
| [16:00:14] | clever: | hmmm, out of ideas then |
| [16:01:06] | johd: | when starting inputlirc only |
| [16:01:19] | johd: | there is /dev/lirc0, but no /dev/lircd |
| [16:01:23] | johd: | that's the only difference |
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| [16:03:15] | clever: | the line you half-copied should give the path to lircd |
| [16:06:04] | johd: | clever, yeah, and this path is correct |
| [16:06:13] | johd: | if I start inputlirc with a different path than that |
| [16:06:26] | johd: | inputlirc will start, but mythfrontend will complain |
| [16:07:26] | johd: | mythfrontend looks for the socket in /var/run/lirc/lircd |
| [16:07:43] | johd: | if I start inputlirc using this path, everything is fine, mythfrontend will not complain |
| [16:08:02] | clever: | hmmm, checking the code, it only looks for that and /dev/lircd |
| [16:09:10] | johd: | inputlirc provides /var/run/lirc/lircd, but not /dev/lircd |
| [16:09:38] | clever: | both should work |
| [16:09:49] | johd: | clever, if I start inputlirc with "-d /dev/lircd" it won't work |
| [16:10:45] | clever: | out of ideas |
| [16:10:52] | johd: | clever, thanks though :) |
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| [18:01:02] | sphery: | ah, wonderful... http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9660 says "2011-03–12 21:52:35.309 Player(0), Error: Couldn't find an A/V decoder for: '/mnt/bitmetv/degrassi.s10e28.ws.dsr.xvid-2hd.avi'" |
| [18:01:43] | sphery: | gotta love it when users post tickets with their stolen files failing to play and don't even have the courtesy to change the name so it's not completely obvious they're stealing conten |
| [18:03:45] | Shadow__X: | sphery: surely the user just saves their files in this way when they are ripping their store bought content |
| [18:05:23] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Just guessing here (haven't looked at the code), but if you take the "has cutlist changed" stuff out of mythtranscode, you'll likely need to have someone else clean up after the partially-complete transcode (any open files or fifos or incomplete files or ...) |
| [18:05:32] | sphery: | Shadow__X: ah, yeah, forgot about that |
| [18:06:03] | Shadow__X: | i agree though that is pretty horrible |
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| [18:06:22] | wagnerrp: | sphery: ive got a 5 second wait between sending the program a TERM signal, and forcing a KILL |
| [18:06:30] | wagnerrp: | its up to the program to catch that and clean up whatever it needs |
| [18:06:33] | Shadow__X: | is there a way to get the gpu temps of an nvidia gpu from terminal? |
| [18:06:53] | sphery: | Shadow__X: maybe this happens to actually be the guy who's doing the stealing and posting to the 'net :) |
| [18:07:12] | sphery: | wagnerrp: cool. sounds like a good plan |
| [18:07:45] | ** sphery wonders if "dsr" would be the "group" name for the pirates or if it's "2hd" ** | |
| [18:07:51] | sphery: | I'm assuming ws = widescreen |
| [18:07:59] | wagnerrp: | probably digital satellite rip |
| [18:08:02] | sphery: | xvid = inverse divx |
| [18:08:15] | sphery: | so 2hd is the group? |
| [18:08:22] | wagnerrp: | thats my guess |
| [18:08:47] | sphery: | worst part is that since it was moved from launchpad, it has superm1's name on it |
| [18:09:18] | Shadow__X: | :( |
| [18:09:43] | sphery: | at least he included a ref to the original ticket with the original reporter's name |
| [18:10:52] | sphery: | interesting... "/mnt/bitmetv/degrassi..." |
| [18:11:09] | sphery: | where http://www.bitmetv.org/ is a bittorrent tracker for stealing tv |
| [18:11:14] | sphery: | and isn't even trying to hide it |
| [18:11:43] | wagnerrp: | reported by josh rosenberg |
| [18:12:13] | sphery: | I really want to close that ticket as "probably a problem with the encoding of the video you stole through bitmetv's bittorrent tracker" |
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| [18:12:33] | sphery: | after all, he seems to be using an avi in recordings |
| [18:12:45] | sphery: | which means he's putting garbage into watch recordings |
| [18:13:11] | wagnerrp: | is he? looks like mythvideo to me |
| [18:13:11] | iamlindoro: | Which means he's likely inserted it with an invalid start and endtime |
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| [18:13:31] | sphery: | ah, no, it's mythvideo |
| [18:13:41] | sphery: | I hadn't looked at the full log |
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| [18:14:19] | sphery: | I remember when thieves on the Internet at least tried to pretend they weren't stealing stuff |
| [18:14:42] | wagnerrp: | but he buys cable, so its already to download those same shows, right? |
| [18:14:48] | wagnerrp: | a/slready/alright/ |
| [18:14:55] | sphery: | and "biteme tv" website is actually asking for donations |
| [18:15:12] | sphery: | "Think of all the money we saved you by helping you steal TV, so give us some of that!" |
| [18:15:39] | sphery: | Scottsdale AZ |
| [18:16:08] | sphery: | may be worth an e-mail to GoDaddy |
| [18:17:47] | wagnerrp: | the internal player will always attempt to fall back to ffmpeg/xv-blit, right? |
| [18:18:13] | sphery: | that was the plan, but I don't think it actually does if you have OpenGL or VDPAU specified |
| [18:18:25] | [R]: | well i only have vdpau in my profiles, and i opay stuff no problem taht vdpau doesnt support |
| [18:18:28] | sphery: | or at least doesn't cleanly |
| [18:19:56] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, thanks |
| [18:23:59] | wagnerrp: | josh rosenberg, 26yr old from philadelphia, graduate from penn state with a major in math, and he prefers sweatpants over jeans |
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| [18:28:47] | wagnerrp: | hes also running an old version of mythtv |
| [18:29:11] | wagnerrp: | nevermind, that was 56/23056 im thinking of |
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| [18:29:15] | wagnerrp: | hes on a fairly recent 0.24 |
| [18:29:43] | sphery: | heh, and he prefers to get his TV the way it was meant to be gotten--for free and with no advertising or consideration to those involved in producing it |
| [18:30:36] | wagnerrp: | look at that, the hashing works |
| [18:30:40] | [R]: | what are you guy talking about |
| [18:30:53] | wagnerrp: | i just found another mythtv pastebin where some other user has the same copy of house 5x03 |
| [18:31:07] | wagnerrp: | #9660 |
| [18:31:26] | wagnerrp: | we should get mythlogbot to do something about that |
| [18:31:36] | wagnerrp: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9660 |
| [18:31:56] | sphery: | which has the house9;2~ |
| [18:32:03] | sphery: | heh, that's not a question mark |
| [18:32:06] | wagnerrp: | error from user with an eye patch |
| [18:33:12] | sphery: | "same copy" = with bitmetv or dsr/hd2 or ? |
| [18:34:14] | wagnerrp: | same hash |
| [18:34:16] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, hey now! He could work for the studio and is previewing the show before it's released! |
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| [18:36:25] | sphery: | still don't get the same copy thing |
| [18:36:28] | sphery: | same as who? |
| [18:36:56] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo hashes all content, so it can detect duplicates during scanning and update the location |
| [18:37:10] | sphery: | I guess your point is that 2 users shouldn't have identical copies of a tv episode? |
| [18:37:15] | wagnerrp: | there are several instances of 'hash xxx already exists, updating...' |
| [18:37:32] | wagnerrp: | so you search for that hash, and you find another pastebin from another user with the same exact show |
| [18:37:40] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [18:38:00] | sphery: | meaning they have identical copies (or at least copies that start and end identically) |
| [18:38:05] | wagnerrp: | now its a 128-bit hash |
| [18:38:37] | wagnerrp: | and while possible, its highly unlikely that two users would end up with a hash collision |
| [18:39:00] | wagnerrp: | when you account for the fact that its the same episode of the same show... well then you have your answer |
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| [18:40:07] | sphery: | and ripping off a DVD would give you sufficiently-different files to get different hashes |
| [18:41:08] | wagnerrp: | a direct ISO without decryption would be the single instance where it would be reasonable |
| [18:41:34] | wagnerrp: | because if you decrypt, you have to do each file independently, recreate the file structure, recreate the iso |
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| [18:41:44] | sphery: | just wondered... I don't know much about ripping or transcoding |
| [18:42:04] | wagnerrp: | and between different versions of the decryptors, and different programs messing with the IFOs and making the ISOs |
| [18:42:11] | wagnerrp: | youre liable to have some difference somewhere |
| [18:42:36] | wagnerrp: | and its likely to be in the first or last 64KB, or in the file size, both of which the hash function uses |
| [18:42:46] | wagnerrp: | still conceivable though |
| [18:43:23] | sphery: | ah, yeah, forgot about file size being in there |
| [18:43:42] | wagnerrp: | but an avi... unless its something freely distributable like bigbuckbunny or sintel... not likely |
| [18:44:27] | sphery: | didn't know, though, if given the same input, how different the output would be--or what all would have to be the same to even come close to the same output (from same transcoder, to same version, to same command line, to ...) |
| [18:45:12] | wagnerrp: | i would imagine each version of mkisofs adds its own unique tag to the file |
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| [18:47:28] | sphery: | interesting |
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| [20:57:15] | judget: | how do i stop the mythbackend please? |
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| [21:01:52] | sphery: | judget: from a MythTV perspective, you send it a TERM signal. As far as, "How do I stop the mythbackend process without my distro restarting it for me?" I'll have to let someone else help you with distro-specific stuff. |
| [21:03:24] | judget: | yea coz i do a killall mythbackend and it restarts with a new pid |
| [21:03:41] | sphery: | yeah, likely something like upstart restarting it |
| [21:06:20] | judget: | well im a newb to myth |
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| [21:09:17] | judget: | well if it helps im am using the mythbuntu auto-build repos PPA and version 0.34 |
| [21:09:22] | judget: | i mean 0.24 |
| [21:11:10] | sphery: | yeah, mythbuntu uses upstart, but I don't know what you do to say, "stop it and leave it stopped until I restart it" |
| [21:14:07] | sphery: | judget: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/442378#442378 has some things to try |
| [21:14:24] | sphery: | couple of posts in the thread do, at least |
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