Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Thursday, February 24th, 2011, 00:01 UTC

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Twiggy2cents:

I have a feature request,(I dont know how to say that with out it sounding like "you guys are doing it wrong and I have an idea with no knowledge of the situation") Is it possible to be able to have an option on the schedule recordings to only record episodes that the original air date is the same as the current system date?

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Beirdo:

Umm, I thought there was an option for new episodes only...

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Twiggy2cents:

Only if it has already recorded them

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Twiggy2cents:

At least that is what I thought

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Beirdo:

uh, waht?

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Beirdo:

that doesn't make sense. If it's already recorded it, it's not new

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Beirdo:

I think the "new episodes" is any episode dated closer than 2 weeks from now or something along those lines

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Twiggy2cents:

Im retarded. I just found it

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Twiggy2cents:

okay so then there is two options "new episodes" and "new episodes first recording" That would make "new episodes" be current episodes and the other would be the original air date?

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Twiggy2cents:

so Beirdo you are sure that the new episodes doesnt mean first airing, it just means that it is relatively new?

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Twiggy2cents:

I cant find anything about it in the wiki pages

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kormoc:

check the source luke

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Beirdo:

I'm not sure anymore. :)

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Beirdo:

Experimentation... :)

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Twiggy2cents:

I am checking, it seems to work that way

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Twiggy2cents:

I dunno what the time flame is, but it canceled a recording from 2 years ago but a recording from 1 day after orig. air date is set to record

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Twiggy2cents:

a conflict isnt a big deal if I have my priorities the way i want right?

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kormoc:

I actually think it uses a week as the 'new' window

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kormoc:

as typically they only show a new episode every week

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kormoc:

Twiggy2cents, uhh.. up to you?

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Beirdo:

ah, i couldn't remember if it was 1 or 2 weeks.

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Beirdo:

mmm, mountain dew

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Twiggy2cents:

ohh. yeah I am retarded... I like to ask question before looking sometimes

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Beirdo:

at least you look too

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Beirdo:

some people never get that far

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Twiggy2cents:

Basically the show I really want to record is +2 prioity and this other show is 0 priority. It said it had a conflict, but it will say that regardless of the priorities right? It will just record the higher number recording?

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Beirdo:

OMG, it's only Wednesday?

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kormoc:

Twiggy2cents, depends on your setup, but typically, yes

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Twiggy2cents:

okay

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kormoc:

you can set it to reschedule higher priority shows if you wanted, which optimizes the amount of tv you get, but may increase the time it takes to get the higher priority shows

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Beirdo:

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Productgroup.aspx?Prodid=11288133

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Twiggy2cents:

So there isnt an option to reschedule lower priority shows?

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Beirdo:

I wish I had THAT problem

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kormoc:

Twiggy2cents, by default, that is how it works

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Twiggy2cents:

Does the experimental option for comm flagging work well or no? I just noticed that option and was wondering, I dont really have an issue with current flagging.

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Twiggy2cents:

kormoc, I suppose that makes sense hence the whole priority thing

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kormoc:

all it does it attempt to speed up certain h264 streams. Some folks get a boost, some don't

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Twiggy2cents:

h264 would be from a analog card?

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Beirdo:

I should mess with that stuff again with the new ffmpeg sync I have for testing.

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kormoc:

no

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Twiggy2cents:

what has a h264 stream?

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Beirdo:

BBC HD. HDPVR

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Twiggy2cents:

are those for recording from a cable box or dish box?

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Twiggy2cents:

man irc has killed my initial searching skills.. I really need to apologize for silly questions. lol

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Twiggy2cents:

Beirdo, what problem? more cars than space?

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wagnerrp:

i dont get it... why does only the one address ever change?

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wagnerrp:

i swear my ISP is forcefully resetting my IP because it detects a web server

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Twiggy2cents:

does that not violate your contract?

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wagnerrp:

not that i know of

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Twiggy2cents:

I thought it was standard that it wasnt allowed to have a web server

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: just put the web server only on IPv6

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wagnerrp:

havent actually looked through it in a decade

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Beirdo:

then they won't even know :)

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** Twiggy2cents wishes that my crap isp would allow incoming connections **

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Twiggy2cents:

this hamachi bull is nice when it works but its not really suitable for constant use. At least not the linux software

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Twiggy2cents:

all I want to do is set recordings from anythign, not something running hamachi. I might be happy if they made a hamachi android app though...

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wagnerrp:

well i moved the webserver onto its own ip

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wagnerrp:

lets see if now both machines get reset, or just the web server

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wagnerrp:

it should happen by morning...

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k-man:

is there some way to turn off the slow transitions between menus in the master branch?

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wagnerrp:

get a read video card that can handle the opengl painter

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wagnerrp:

(so that theyre fast transitions)

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k-man:

i'm experimenting under virtualbox

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k-man:

if the answer is no, i can live with that, i was just wondering

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wagnerrp:

mythtv-0.25 is supposed to detect if there is real hardware opengl, and switch to the qt painter automatically if not

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wagnerrp:

sphery might want to have you run some stuff

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k-man:

oh, ok

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k-man:

when i noticed it was slow, i turned on the vbox setting "allow 3d hardware acceleration" but that made no difference as far as i could tell

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k-man:

there is also a 2d acceleration option, but it said that it does not work for non windows guest OSs

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wagnerrp:

right now, it just detects if direct rendering is available

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wagnerrp:

if DRI is actually available, and you still dont have any meaningful performance, then there may be something else that needs to be checked

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wagnerrp:

if DRI is not available, then there is a problem with the detection code

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wagnerrp:

either way... sphery ^^^^

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k-man:

in the mythfrontend output, it says it finds an opengl painter

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k-man:

sphery: you awake?

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k-man:

maybe its a waste of time though – hunting down a performance issue on a vm?

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k-man:

here is the output from mythfrontend anyway

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k-man:

http://pastebin.com/EraGzjLw

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wagnerrp:

waste of time getting mythtv to work on a VM? yes

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russell5:

is there any way to export mythvideo metadata info in like html or anything?

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wagnerrp:

but it still may expose a flaw in the detection code

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wagnerrp:

russell5: to make some sort of 'available content' page?

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russell5:

yeah an easy way me or my wife can see what movies we have

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wagnerrp:

there is a Videos page in mythweb, but the whole mythweb/mythvideo interface really needs some fixing and revising

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russell5:

i had all my dvds in gcstar but lost the file and now that i ripped them all

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russell5:

i wanted another way without having to add them one by one again

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russell5:

yeah thats what we currently use

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wagnerrp:

gcstar?

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russell5:

collections manager

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wagnerrp:

anyway, you could probably whip something up in maybe an hour with the python bindings

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wagnerrp:

but other than whats in mythweb, youre looking at having to do some coding

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russell5:

thanks :)

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sphery:

k-man: it's using OpenGL painter because of: 2011-02–24 12:39:07.397 OpenGL: Direct rendering: Yes

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sphery:

any idea why VirtualBox is telling Qt that it's rendering directly to hardware?

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sphery:

k-man: can you try turning off "allow 3d hardware acceleration" and post another log like that

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sphery:

iamlindoro: heh, skewing the median system config so we don't end up catering to the 512MB Atom + Intel graphics?

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sphery:

kormoc_afk will be pleased

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iamlindoro:

We won't do that anyway ;)

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sphery:

heh, yeah

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sphery:

k-man: fwiw, based on some limited googling, it looks like it's a VirtualBox misconfiguration causing it to report direct rendering, but not actually be able to use direct rendering

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sphery:

k-man: (noting that I know nothing of V-Box nor the graphics stuff) seems you're using xrender rendering ("direct" rendering by software) instead of opengl, so either disable that or fix your virtualbox opengl configuration

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k-man:

sphery: ok, thanks

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k-man:

sphery: i'll do as you suggest re 3d rendering

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wagnerrp:

seems its just lack of activity

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wagnerrp:

IPs reset after as little as 4 hours of inactivity

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sphery:

why do I keep feeling like I'm seeing only half a conversation in here?

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wagnerrp:

youve gone mad

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sphery:

Doctor, I've been seeing voices in IRC...

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shadow__X:

you have synesthesia among other things

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sphery:

I disabled that in MythMusic settings...

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shadow__X:

anyone have any tricks on getting component out working with an nvidia card?

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dougt_:

anyone seeing a build bustage building mythplugins. version.h isn't exported. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1093514

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wagnerrp:

dougt_: have you installed mythtv yet?

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dougt_:

wagnerrp: building from source.... i hacked mythversion.h to not include version.h... just so that i'd have something working

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wagnerrp:

dougt_: have you built and installed mythtv yet?

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dougt_:

yes?

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dougt_:

i mean, i worked around the problem. did a sudo make install, and all is happy

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wagnerrp:

hacks are bad, proper fixes are good

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wagnerrp:

if theres actually a problem, it should be fixed

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dougt_:

i agree.

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wagnerrp:

but the plugins will not build until mythtv has been built and installed

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dougt_:

i think the basic problem is that |mythtv/libs/libmythbase/mythversion.h| references version.h which I don't think is exported.

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dougt_:

wagnerrp: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1093556

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dougt_:

that ./mythversion.h does a #include of "version.h"

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dougt_:

probably https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/70a15 . . . 7395188c67d9

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dougt_:

Beirdo: ^

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dougt_:

does version.h need to get exported?

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dougt_:

hmm. maybe I didn't run qmake.

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sphery:

dougt_: did you delete old mythtv headers from system dirs, then make distclean, then recompile/install mythtv?

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dougt_:

nope. i usually make clean, reconfigure, and make

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dougt_:

sphery: what do you do?

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sphery:

I'd suggest trying that... just because on this change, if you had the old headers in system libs, they could mess things up

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sphery:

that said, I haven't built since the change, so I can't guarantee it's working

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dougt_:

what I was suggestion was that a new files wasn't showing up.

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sphery:

I always remove all mythtv headers and libs from the system and always build from a pristine repo--just so I never run into any "oh, guess I need a distclean" or "oh, guess my old stuff got in the way of the build" issues that waste time... With ccache, a build of a pristine repo is fast--and it's likely saved me time over the long run :)

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Beirdo:

what are you talking about "exported"?

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sphery:

still, this was a major change, so I'd say first try a distclean repo and a system without any headers, etc installed

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Beirdo:

definitely

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sphery:

I think he meant installed to system include dirs or something

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Beirdo:

and it is installed, IIRC

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sphery:

yeah, I'm thinking some or all of your files (either in system dirs or the repo) are old ones

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sphery:

so they reference something that's not supposed to exist now

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Beirdo:

just delete the installed include dir and try installing again

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sphery:

anyway, just a suggested

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sphery:

suggestion

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judget:

I imported some videos that I made into myth tv and they play just fine. My question is how can i set thumbnails up for each video as they appear in the selection menu?

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mag0o:

sphery: my backend overheated today and shutdown to prevent hardware damage, however, my db appears to be hosed. http://mythtv.pastebin.com/fqzHZJX7 is the backend log from startup, and I've ran optimize_mythdb.pl but that didn't help. Any idea on what to try next?

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judget:

mag0o can u use regulay mysql tools to read the db at all?

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mag0o:

yeah

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mag0o:

let me verify once more

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mag0o:

scratch that

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judget:

so then the db is gone?

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mag0o:

Incorrect file format 'program'

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judget:

is your mysql runninmg?

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mag0o:

when i try select * from program limit 1

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judget:

have u tried mysql admin or query browser connect as root user

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mag0o:

that was connected as root

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mag0o:

ok, settings table returns data

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mag0o:

14gb free on filesystem, so it's not a full disk

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judget:

sorry mag0o gotta run but my suggestion is to try mysql admin see if there is a part of that for db repair or recovery

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k-man:

sphery: vbox with 3d acceleration turned off: http://pastebin.com/PKCELiV1

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k-man:

sphery: i should have got you to send me the links you found regarding direct rendering under virtualbox

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k-man:

sphery: also, mythtv seems to be rendering much faster with the vbox 3d option turned off

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Beirdo:

hmmm

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Beirdo:

OK, I need a compiler.

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Beirdo:

4h left on the xcode/iOS download

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mag0o:

that d/l takes *forever*

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Beirdo:

yeah

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: making a mac buildbot?

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k-man:

do you need xcode to build mythtv on OS X?

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Beirdo:

I'm at least making it so I can build on my macbook

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Beirdo:

stuarta's working on making a buildbot slave on his mac

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Floppe:

iirc one could tell mythfrontend to use nfs instead of myth:// but cant seem to find it now. I've mounted recordings to the same path as the backend sees them but still no go.

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[R]:

why would yo uwant to

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Floppe:

want to test if watching recordings stops to lag so I know what to fill in title/descripton when filing a ticket

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[R]:

pretty sure they removed the option

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[R]:

but it still should try to use nfs if the file exists i think

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Floppe:

seems like it doesnt when tailing the frontend logs

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Sulx:

anyone running mysql 5.5.9 and 0.24?

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Sulx:

mythconver_backup seems to segfault

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Sulx:

just thinking is it just me

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[R]:

myth doesnt work wit h5.5

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laga:

so, what's the current status on mythweb streaming? i take it mythbackend still doesn't have the necessary conversion magic to make this happen seamlessly, eg with storage groups?

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paulmcmahon:

hi

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paulmcmahon:

wondering if anyone can assist – I've installed mythtv on windows 7. I've got the front end connecting to the database identifying that the tablespace for mysqlconv (or whatever it is called) is empty, therefore called the mysql dataload/fill procedures

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paulmcmahon:

it states that it is upgrading the mythtv schema to version 1226

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paulmcmahon:

it's said the same thing for ~2 hours now, I've tried reinstalling changing versions of mysql, but the same thing happens.

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paulmcmahon:

appreciate assistance in debuging the problem

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paulmcmahon:

lots of people here, noone awake? :(

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justinh:

if there are, obviously nobody wants to go near a windows install of mythfrontend :-P

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paulmcmahon:

agree

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justinh:

so... I assume your backend is running on a real linux box somewhere on your network...

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justinh:

1. check your mysql server is allowing connections from other machines – it won't allow that by default usually

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justinh:

2. make sure mythbackend isn't bound to 127.0.0.1 and is bound to the LAN IP of the machine it runs on

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justinh:

that's generally enough

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justinh:

and if you find it discovers a mythconverg database & wants to update the schema to a newer version.. erm.. you really shouldn't mix mythtv versions in a system. It won't work. You need to run exactly the same version of mythtv on all outposts

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justinh:

there's no backwards compatibility here

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hephaistos:

hi, having problems with mythbackend. After a few hours of watching TV the server (dedicated mythbackend) becomes unresponsive due to high load – even after all frontend activity has ceased

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hephaistos:

anybody available?

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justinh:

step 1: look in the backend log

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hephaistos:

have done, nothing special

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justinh:

really? what else is going on on that machine then?

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hephaistos:

i've recently disabled active eit crawl and this has shown significant drop in activity

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hephaistos:

just myth, mysql and nfs

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justinh:

how much ram?

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hephaistos:

4gb

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justinh:

so not lacking in ram then. how much free space on the partition mysql data lives on?

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hephaistos:

core i3 3.06ghz, 4gb ddr3

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hephaistos:

2 TB

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hephaistos:

8 in total

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justinh:

and is the database in good shape?

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hephaistos:

seems to be, reasonably fresh install, just a few movies and recordings.

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hephaistos:

the disabling of active eit crawl seems to have helped the situation by not clogging up as quickly but, as the server als clogs up (by mythbackend) when no frontend activity is present, i still have doubt if the eit problem is the only one

[13:46:16]

justinh:

can't say I've ever ran into any problems with responsiveness or load

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justinh:

what's top saying?

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hephaistos:

i'm using three anysee e30tc usb tuners, that since today are running on a special 4-port independent pci-express usb card

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hephaistos:

just to be sure there getting their full 480mbps

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hephaistos:

just a mo i'll look it up

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hephaistos:

nothing special except for a range of PID's for mythbackend and mysql

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hephaistos:

(using htop_

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justinh:

and everythingon your cable feed is unencrypted yes?

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justinh:

or you've used CAMs & 4 viewing cards to decrypt the content?

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hephaistos:

the tuners are the ec30tc plus kind – basic channels are unencrypted the rest is. But the problem also persists when viewing only free-to-air

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hephaistos:

(each tuner has it's own smartcard)

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justinh:

right. so you're not doing anything unsupported anyway

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hephaistos:

no, all proper hardware and subscriptions

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justinh:

my money would be on the no-mark USB devices you've got there, FWIW

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hephaistos:

sorry, what do you mean?

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hephaistos:

usb to slow?

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justinh:

I'd be looking to blame the USB tuners

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justinh:

specifically the drivers

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hephaistos:

thought of that which is why i got a 150 euro industrial pci-e usb controller with 4 independent root-hubs

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hephaistos:

this pretty much guarantees 480 mbps for each tuner independantly

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justinh:

it's not throughput you have to worry about

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justinh:

even a whole mux is nothing like 480mbps

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hephaistos:

the drivers should be ok, lot's of people in the Netherlands are using it

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hephaistos:

true but i wanted to be on the safe side

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hephaistos:

the pci-e usb adapter also has 2 molex connectors providing extra power from the 80+ 650W PSU

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hephaistos:

so power can't be an issue either

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justinh:

I think you're going to have to monitor your system closely to see what's really going on when the system becomes unresponsive

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hephaistos:

indeed... – but back in the EIT department, do you use EIT as well? had any problems or load issues?

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justinh:

I use EIT & I have no problems and no load issues

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justinh:

I have close to 1000 recordings & make lots of recordings every day

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hephaistos:

after googling i read that "active eit crawl" can be a problem as well as "eit time-out", can you confirm this?

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justinh:

no idea

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veehexx:

i've seen that mentioned, Heph (something in mythtv doc/wiki i think). not had the problem myself though

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hephaistos:

so you reckon it's most probably the tuners then – after i disabled the eit crawl load went down significantly.. you reckon a PCI-e tuner wouldn't have this problem?

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veehexx:

but that was more todo with sleep states rather than actual known problematic issues.

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wagnerrp:

hehehe

[14:00:01]

wagnerrp:

movie piracy is running rampant, ruining the film industry

[14:00:30]

wagnerrp:

in other news, theaters post record values, with 2010 up 8% in box office sales since 2009

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justinh:

wagnerrp: yeah but without piracy that would've been up 11100000%

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justinh:

;-)

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hephaistos:

but this all legit and cost a bundle, the tuners where 150 euro each, let alone the rest of the server

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wagnerrp:

yeah... sure...

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justinh:

I wouldn't touch USB tuners no matter how much they cost

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hephaistos:

power shouldn't be an issue right? Core i3 3ghz, 4gb, 8tb running three tuners?

[14:01:32]

wagnerrp:

if it werent for all these 3d tvs theyre selling to consumers

[14:01:41]

wagnerrp:

they would have no choice but to go to the theater

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wagnerrp:

i blame electronics manufacturers!

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hephaistos:

i have an older hauppauge dvb-t tuner which runs flawlessly

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hephaistos:

also usb

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hephaistos:

the setup which we are discussing now is for DVB-C

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veehexx:

Heph – wouldnt that sugest issues with the hardware/drivers then?

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hephaistos:

it does, but i can't find much about it online, and i know for a fact that it's the tuner of choice for mediacenter users in the Netherlands at the moment

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wagnerrp:

150€ on a USB controller???

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justinh:

*linux* media centres though? ;-)

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wagnerrp:

why not just buy new pci-e tuners that dont need USB?

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justinh:

dvb-c pci-e? heh

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justinh:

with linux drivers.. hmm

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justinh:

and CI slot..

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laga:

no such thing, i'm afraid...?

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wagnerrp:

there are actually USB tuners with CI slots?

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wagnerrp:

ive only ever seen internal ones

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justinh:

Supported DVB-C PCIe Cards:

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justinh:

none currently

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hephaistos:

it's an industrial usb controller with 4 independant root hubs, and yes loads of linux media center users, pci-e is a problem as the mobo only has 2 pci-e slots one of which is occupied by a intel server network card

[14:05:34]

justinh:

wagnerrp: I didn't know until just now.. those 'Anysee' things. Another stupid company name

[14:06:05]

hephaistos:

anysee has a "plus" model for every version, which is approachable as a serial softcam

[14:06:23]

justinh:

we don't support those here

[14:06:37]

justinh:

hardware decryption or bust

[14:06:41]

wagnerrp:

we only support tuners which do the decryption internally

[14:07:00]

hephaistos:

it's all legal though, i checked with the cable company and have a smartcard for each tuner

[14:07:16]

justinh:

so the slot is just a card reader. Sigh

[14:07:20]

wagnerrp:

thats fine, if the tuner card doesnt output unencrypted video, we dont support it

[14:07:25]

justinh:

we don't support that here

[14:07:44]

wagnerrp:

because for every person that may want to use a card reader legitimately, theres fifty more who dont

[14:07:46]

hephaistos:

and like you said there are no supported pci-e dvb-c cards yet,

[14:08:00]

justinh:

in which case I'd suggest you only need to look as far as the SC code to see where your performance issues are coming from

[14:08:22]

hephaistos:

fair enough but like i said it also clogged up when watching free-to-air only

[14:08:25]

hephaistos:

i checked.

[14:08:30]

wagnerrp:

why is the reader directly attached to the tuner card, if its just a reader?

[14:08:34]

wagnerrp:

that makes no sense

[14:08:44]

hephaistos:

the reader is one with the tuner

[14:08:51]

justinh:

wagnerrp: integrated card reader – seems fairly logical

[14:09:15]

wagnerrp:

justinh: logical yes, but if the card doesnt actually use the reader for onboard decryption?

[14:09:22]

justinh:

wagnerrp: cheap!

[14:09:44]

hephaistos:

http://www.anysee.com/eng/product/anyseeE30ComboPlus.php

[14:09:59]

wagnerrp:

yeah, looking at the linuxtv page

[14:10:03]

hephaistos:

indeed a cheap solution

[14:10:18]

hephaistos:

but the only way as i looked at it at the time of purchase

[14:10:27]

justinh:

if you're using SC crap, then maybe the problem with all traffic – both encrypted & clear – is the fact that SCs can make virtual devices for the DVR software to use

[14:11:13]

justinh:

so then it doesn't matter whether you're looking at encrypted stuff or not

[14:11:15]

hephaistos:

it does, it makes 3 virtual /dev/dvb/adapterX based on the existing /dev/...

[14:11:30]

justinh:

and everything goes through the virtual devices

[14:11:39]

hephaistos:

it does

[14:11:52]

justinh:

which figures, because you're saying you see the problem with everything, not just encrypted stuff

[14:11:59]

hephaistos:

but that shouldn't have to be a problem

[14:12:07]

hephaistos:

indeed

[14:12:13]

justinh:

so chuck out the SC, get a *real* solution. Job done, problems solved

[14:12:20]

wagnerrp:

buggy drivers not a problem?

[14:12:21]

justinh:

and if there's no *real* solution, ya boo sucks

[14:13:14]

wagnerrp:

that sounds like they did something similar to the HDHR DVB driver

[14:13:21]

justinh:

blame the cable company, blame the hardware makers ...

[14:13:38]

hephaistos:

that could be expensive though, i'd need to get a different mobo, 3 pci-e tuners with dvb-c support and hardware decryption – which i haven't been able to find anywhere

[14:13:41]

justinh:

I wouldn't trust SC code as far as I code throw it

[14:13:50]

wagnerrp:

they only minimally implemented the DVB interface, to what the specific program they were using needed

[14:14:23]

justinh:

the people who write & maintain such code hide under rocks

[14:14:39]

justinh:

if it was so 'legit' would they even need to hide? I think not

[14:15:00]

hephaistos:

ultimately the tuner-makers are to blame as they don't support linux properly

[14:15:25]

wagnerrp:

ultimately linux is to blame, as there arent enough users to make supporting linux profitable

[14:15:42]

justinh:

drop the SC junk & go back to trying the clear channels. If that works well you know where to pin the blame

[14:15:46]

hephaistos:

but that doesn't change the fact that this solution is actually very similar to how any STB works – even the ones supplied by the cable provider have softcams instead of physical ones

[14:15:54]

justinh:

let mythbackend use the tuners *directly*

[14:16:16]

justinh:

hephaistos: that doesn't change the fact that we won't support SC use here

[14:16:18]

hephaistos:

that would leave only Holland 1, 2 and 3 + 1 regional channel

[14:16:24]

justinh:

hephaistos: just TRY it

[14:16:36]

justinh:

my bet is that it'll fix all the problems

[14:17:12]

justinh:

and it'll leave you concluding that the SC code is junk – something you'll have to take up with whoever maintains it

[14:17:27]

hephaistos:

i'm sure it will, but won't help my girlfriend watch BBC

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justinh:

that's not our problem :)

[14:17:51]

hephaistos:

fair enough

[14:18:20]

justinh:

if I'd known from the start you were using SC junk it would've been the very first thing I said

[14:18:35]

justinh:

1. try without the SC stuff

[14:19:58]

hephaistos:

i wouldn't be using sc stuff if there where proper tuners available; it's a choice out of necessity not piracy considerations. If anybody knows of any tuners coming out with hardware decryption onboard i'd go out and buy them now

[14:20:08]

justinh:

that isn't the point

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justinh:

try without the SC code – make mythbackend use the real devices then see if you have problems. My bet is that you won't – which will point the finger firmly away from mythtv, mysql, USB and all the rest

[14:21:44]

hephaistos:

i'll try it again and see what happens, i'll report back later

[14:21:48]

justinh:

the fact that all that kind of code is often hidden behind anonymous blogs, forums & file storage sites makes it untrustworthy IMHO

[14:21:49]

laga:

hephaistos: if it still doesn't work, justinh will gladly assist you with the issue ;)

[14:22:10]

justinh:

untrustworthy and unaccountable

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hephaistos:

indeed. So what do you guys do then, use a HDHomeRun connected to a STB?

[14:23:56]

wagnerrp:

you cant connect an HDHomeRun to an STB

[14:24:24]

hephaistos:

or anything similar; an analog tuner connected to a STB?

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hephaistos:

and ir blasting

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wagnerrp:

you dont want to connect an analog tuner to an STB

[14:25:03]

wagnerrp:

if youre going to do analog capture, you want to use baseband video, not rf modulated

[14:25:26]

wagnerrp:

STBs all have cheap modulators... poor video quality compared to svideo/component

[14:25:28]

hephaistos:

obviously not, as i bought digital tuners – i was aware of that. I used to do it that way with the local dvb-t provider before i got a hauppauge

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hephaistos:

i'll try the sc-less setup and stress test it for a few hours, see what happens and report back

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justinh:

and if you want HD it gets awfully expensive

[14:28:13]

justinh:

Hauppauge HD-PVR, per HD source you want to use

[14:28:29]

justinh:

assuming your STBs have component output. If they only do HDMI then it gets even more expensive

[14:29:02]

wagnerrp:

and the component outputs are still enabled

[14:30:02]

justinh:

I think I'd rather live without TV than try to live without MythTV

[14:31:24]

veehexx:

just a quick one; is there an quick way to mass-edit channels? i have about 200 channels in total that i dont want listed (encrypted/dead/foreign)

[14:31:37]

justinh:

mythweb

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veehexx:

ah, good; thats something i plan on using, but if that'll help me i'll focus on that :)

[14:37:15]

wagnerrp:

so does apple just really hate USB?

[14:37:37]

justinh:

why not? I do

[14:38:23]

wagnerrp:

well it seems USB3 may finally make the bus worthwhile, since its hardware driven rather than software

[14:38:35]

wagnerrp:

but apple looks like its going to push hard on lightpeak

[14:38:54]

justinh:

lightpeak? sounds fibre-ish

[14:39:09]

wagnerrp:

yeah, intel, 10gbps duplex

[14:39:44]

justinh:

it'll be a minor obstacle to rooting their stuff

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wagnerrp:

huh?

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justinh:

lightpeak being less widespread than USB ;-)

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justinh:

wonder why we need faster buses anyhow.. it's not as if you can drag data from a disk at the full bus speed yet

[14:42:01]

wagnerrp:

its intel's take on the do-everything-bus

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laga:

SATA with 3G and a nice SSD...

[14:42:28]

wagnerrp:

peripherals, displays, disk drives, accessory cards

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wagnerrp:

they want it internal and external

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justinh:

OMG.. 40 kiloquads over one optical network connection

[14:43:12]

justinh:

er something

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veehexx:

usb is too established. wont catch on for replace-everything..

[14:43:55]

wagnerrp:

usb is too garbage

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justinh:

yeah, plus Intel don't have 1st dibs on USB

[14:44:08]

veehexx:

i agree, but it's still very much the majority.

[14:44:27]

justinh:

so was serial. until it wasn't

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veehexx:

still required for some stuff though. USB just dont work with certain usb stuff.

[14:45:07]

veehexx:

*USB just dont work with certain SERIAL stuff.

[14:45:18]

veehexx:

..although im sure the 1st is also true ;)

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justinh:

that's a limitation of the converter used

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justinh:

*and the USB stack

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veehexx:

indeed

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justinh:

jees. just been informed that the IT guy has started graphing port access – and on the X-axis.. are people's names

[14:50:28]

laga:

wtf

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laga:

make moar background noise!

[14:50:52]

justinh:

I dunno, but I'm glad NX doesn't use much

[14:52:08]

CiaranG:

Hmm, all of a sudden, MythWeb seems to think there is no guide data (just shows "NO DATA" for every channel) but the tv guide is working on all my front end machines. Surely they should just be looking at the same data in the database?

[14:52:43]

justinh:

all of a sudden? maybe mythfilldatabase ran & inserted a ream of guff channels into your db

[14:53:11]

justinh:

which usually happens because you configured xmltv but didn't edit all your scanned channels to set the correct xmltvid

[14:54:12]

CiaranG:

Yeah, so "all of a sudden" – I probably mean since I deleted and recreated my capture cards, input sources, etc yesterday

[14:54:47]

CiaranG:

Not using xmltv or anything like that though, just over the air data from the DVB

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wagnerrp:

justinh: im actually using xchat over ssh tunnel right now

[14:55:23]

CiaranG:

So something bad in the channel data could mess up mythweb, but leave the frontends working?

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wagnerrp:

its surprisingly not bad

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justinh:

oof. over 4MB since I installed a bandwidth meter

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justinh:

mind, they're only looking at switch traffic, this could be anything

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justinh:

that's internal switch traffic

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CiaranG:

Ok, I am stupid, and I was accidentally looking at mythweb on an old machine that used to be my backend, but isn't any more

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laga:

heh, that's a new one

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justinh:

takes all sorts

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sphery:

mag0o: Did you get your DB working? Likely you just need to do a mysqlcheck -r on it, then it will say, "can't fix it, see <page on mysql site>" or "try <special option>" or similar

[15:31:07]

gnat42:

I seem to be having issues setting up mythtv – I have installed it via RPM on Fedora 14, I have a Hauppage 150 card. It can't record or watch live TV.

[15:31:15]

gnat42:

issues about unknow video codec

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gnat42:

assuming RTJpeg

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gnat42:

however I can only pick from RTJpeg and MP4 in the TV Settings

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gnat42:

and the card outputs mpg2

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gnat42:

google isn't turning up anything useful

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wagnerrp:

gant42: if mythtv is complaining about rtjpeg on a pvr-150, you set it up wrong

[15:36:15]

wagnerrp:

you should have set it up as an MPEG Encoder, rather than V4L2 tuner

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AbyoSHI:

I've been hit with the Digital Migration from Comcast, does any body know a good guide to setup IR Blaster for the DTA?

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gnat42:

wagnerrp: ah...

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gnat42:

ah hell... the card type I thought was just text...

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gnat42:

thanks

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gnat42:

one more question that would be wonderful to have answered

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gnat42:

how can I make mythfrontend not run full screen?

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justinh:

-w

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justinh:

and -geometry XxY

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justinh:

which -help would have revealed

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justinh:

that's mythfrontend -help btw

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CiaranG:

--help, in fact

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sphery:

gnat42: or, better, if you want it to be more than a one-time override, use mythfrontend Utilities/Setup|Setup|Appearance to set GUI width/height and GUI X/Y offsets

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justinh:

ahyes

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CiaranG:

-help won't reveal anything

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CiaranG:

Rather confusingly

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gnat42:

thanks sphery – I was looking for permanent yes

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gnat42:

*thanks!

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wagnerrp:

gnat42: do note that mythfrontend is not scalable

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gnat42:

wagnerrp: that's fine, the only reason I have myth installed is really for the recording of TV

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wagnerrp:

you can change the resolution, but the whole program has to refresh when you do so

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gnat42:

so am rarely running the frontend

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gnat42:

but found it difficult without a mouse and in fullscreen when I didn't need that

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gnat42:

now that the recordings are working I won't likely be using the frontend much

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gnat42:

but at least I can without taking up an entire monitor

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justinh:

be funny if mythbackend one day only worked with mythfrontend

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wagnerrp:

justinh: but its an open protocol

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arnie-b:

i'm getting errors building 0.23, might anyone know what errors like this mean?

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arnie-b:

eventing.h:236:27: error: call of overloaded ‘QString(int)’ is ambiguous

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arnie-b:

and

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arnie-b:

eventing.h:245:9: warning: control reaches end of non-void function

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arnie-b:

google didn't turn up anything but one other report of the same errors

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justinh:

warnings are just warnings

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justinh:

things will compile just fine with warning

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justinh:

s

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wagnerrp:

but theres an error there too

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arnie-b:

but it says error ?

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justinh:

wagnerrp: yeah but it'd be funny if the likes of XBMC suddenly didn't work. I'd find that funny anyway

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justinh:

errors are errors – serious. warnings are just warnings.. and won't stop the compiler working

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wagnerrp:

i intend to do just that in a couple months

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wagnerrp:

justinh: but there is an error there as well

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justinh:

sigh. I wasn't saying there isn't an error there

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arnie-b:

so justin, it won't make, so what are you saying?

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justinh:

eventing.h:236:27: error: call of overloaded ‘QString(int)’ is ambiguous

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justinh:

that's an error ^^^

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arnie-b:

yeah, and?

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justinh:

eventing.h:245:9: warning: control reaches end of non-void function

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arnie-b:

what do you want me to post, the non-errors?

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justinh:

that's a warning ^^^

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justinh:

more of the output of make might be helpful

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arnie-b:

here's the pastebin, maybe that will help

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arnie-b:

http://pastebin.com/baJ2bcKe

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arnie-b:

there's not much more really

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justinh:

looks Qt version-ish maybe

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arnie-b:

Qt incompatability?

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wagnerrp:

arnie-b: what version of Qt do you hvae installed?

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arnie-b:

4.7.1–3

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iamlindoro:

Yes, it's a Qt issue

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iamlindoro:

.23 is not our current version

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iamlindoro:

.24 should compile against 4.7 fine

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iamlindoro:

[26434]

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MythLogBot:

SVN 26434: (branch fixes/0.23) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/1f1e47cf

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iamlindoro:

Or even sufficiently new .23-fixes

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iamlindoro:

and by "new," I mean newer than September of 2010

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iamlindoro:

So you are trying to compile very, very old source, so don't do that

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arnie-b:

24 isn't working that great for me

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arnie-b:

any ETA on when 25 is out?

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iamlindoro:

no

[17:10:14]

iamlindoro:

.24 is vastly more stable than .23 is

[17:10:26]

iamlindoro:

if you are having issues, then presumably you have opened tickets

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arnie-b:

if it won't record reliably, it's practically useless to me

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iamlindoro:

.24's recording has not changed *in the slightest* from .23

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iamlindoro:

Not one iota

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arnie-b:

keep getting some "jump file" error – won't tune to channels

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iamlindoro:

Generally speaking, people tend to upgrade their distro along with myth, and then blame myth when recording does wonky

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arnie-b:

as a result, recordings are empty files

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iamlindoro:

jump files refers to live TV, not recordings

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iamlindoro:

jump files are not used or relevant to scheduled recordings

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arnie-b:

recorded files say they're empty, have 0 data in them

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iamlindoro:

Right, because you have an underlying driver/distro issue

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arnie-b:

you think? have the latest drivers afaik

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iamlindoro:

Myth is a consumer of capture APIs, we don't write from-scratch recording code

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iamlindoro:

that is, all we do is tell the v4l API "please give me data on this frequency"

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iamlindoro:

if the file ends up empty, with all things configured properly in myth, then it's because the API didn't provide any data

[17:14:25]

iamlindoro:

And having the latest drivers is not necessarily best, that's exactly my point

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arnie-b:

i'm not sure what the deal is with the drivers, tbh

[17:14:47]

iamlindoro:

take all the people who went from Ubuntu 10.04 -> 10.10 and .23-> .24 at the same time and blame Myth because now recording is all jacked up

[17:15:16]

iamlindoro:

Come to find out that capture devices seem to be hopelessly broken on the kernel they are shipping with 10.10

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arnie-b:

i have 1.2.0–1, does that sound out of date? upgrade util says it's already installed

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iamlindoro:

I'm not familiar with anything which would have a version of 1.2.0–1

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arnie-b:

i have my own kernel 2.6.28, same i used with 0.23

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iamlindoro:

ie, I have no idea what you are talking about

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arnie-b:

Version 1.2.0–1 of ivtv-modules-2.6.28 already installed, skipping.

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arnie-b:

that's what it says, but yeah, the ivtv stuff is confusing

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iamlindoro:

ivtv is part of the kernel, has been for ages and ages

[17:16:45]

iamlindoro:

2.6.28 is a pretty old kernel

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arnie-b:

maybe upgrading kernel would fix the problem:

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arnie-b:

?

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iamlindoro:

anyway, the point being, all we do is request that the underlying capture APIs provide us with data

[17:17:24]

iamlindoro:

and that method of capture has not changed in many, many, many releases

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iamlindoro:

years

[17:17:39]

iamlindoro:

and likewise, has not changed between .23 and .24

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arnie-b:

so it should be the same, unless there is a driver or hardware issue?

[17:17:59]

iamlindoro:

so if your permissions are right and you're getting 0 byte files, you have a more fundamental problem

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arnie-b:

or some other package?

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iamlindoro:

it's not should be, it literally is the same

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arnie-b:

permissions are fine, can record sometimes, but it's not reliable

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arnie-b:

i mean performance should be the same

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arnie-b:

if ivtv drivers are newer in later kernels, that seems reasonable to try

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arnie-b:

it's been so long since i installed this server that I could have sworn i installed those myself with m-a a-i

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arnie-b:

are there any kernels with known myth issues, or should i just get the latest?

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wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: the removal of PIP is a feature!

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arnie-b:

oh – do i still need firmware and things like that, or is all i need in the kernel?

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wagnerrp:

often times your distro will provide the firmware

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sphery:

wagnerrp: heh, yeah--definitely a feature... Since with it in (and broken), it would crash the frontend

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arnie-b:

so i do need some?

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wagnerrp:

most tuners need firmware

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iamlindoro:

kormoc: The King's Quest/Quest For Glory remake folks just released a KQ3 remake-- and Mac versions of all the old and current remakes

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iamlindoro:

fun!

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kormoc:

awesome!

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Dracos-Carazza:

hi does someone now, the correct name of the S100 remote?

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iamlindoro:

You might get more traction if you said what an S100 is

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Dracos-Carazza:

wait..

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Dracos-Carazza:

http://www.t-online.de/international/pressebi . . . 0_remote.jpg

[18:20:28]

Dracos-Carazza:

I want to use the IR remote with mythtv on an other device

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iamlindoro:

So it's some random one-off remote from your cable box-- it likely doesn't have a "correct" name, you'll need to generate your own IR codes for it

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Dracos-Carazza:

it issnt a random one

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iamlindoro:

it is random

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Dracos-Carazza:

there are some users who runs linux on the S100

[18:21:35]

iamlindoro:

it's just one of many hundreds of random remotes

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iamlindoro:

That doesn't mean anything

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Dracos-Carazza:

they also use lirc

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iamlindoro:

and that doesn't mean that they don't have to train the IR too

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iamlindoro:

so what?

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iamlindoro:

so set up the reciever in lirc, and generate the codes with irrecord

[18:23:01]

iamlindoro:

Just because someone else has used it in linux doesn't mean it's not just another niche remote-- but that doesn't have to be a problem, it just means that you record your own IR codeset

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Dracos-Carazza:

you dont have explain that

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arnie-b:

i recompiled a newer kernel and added the distro firmware drivers, and it seems to be more stable

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arnie-b:

mythweb is still not acting properly, though – not canceling recordings when you select cancel and things like that

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sphery:

heh, that was wrong channel

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sphery:

(me)

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arnie-b:

it's like a full time job keeping these systems up to date and functioning

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arnie-b:

i guess it's some people's "hobby" <shrug>

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sphery:

kormoc: heh, just got to your comment on the seagate not-supporting smart... glad you found the new home of that comment (at http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfser . . . DocId=203971 ). When they moved it off http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.c . . . p_faqid=5157 , I couldn't find it to quote it to anyone.

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sphery:

arnie-b: heh, yeah, I tell people that MythTV is a great hobby (and GNU/Linux, also)...

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arnie-b:

heh

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sphery:

I've told many friends they didn't want MythTV for exactly that reason

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kormoc:

sphery, yeah, and I like how it's been countered by 'The forum users claim it works!'

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sphery:

kormoc: well, when you think about it, who would know better? forum users or seagate engineers?

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arnie-b:

the average user would have some degree of difficulty, i think

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sphery:

kormoc: I mean, really, the engineers may know more about driving trains than the forum users, but when it comes to HDDs...

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kormoc:

indeed

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Twiggy|worx:

I know this has been beaten to death, but if you were building a small computer probably atom based. What is the minimum for 1080i video? It would have nvidia ION. Is that enough?

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kormoc:

IMHO... Don't

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kormoc:

just pay the extra for a real cpu and call it good

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kisak:

while it can be done, VDPAU is not a perfect science yet, and if anything goes wrong you don't have enough power to work around it

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Twiggy|worx:

I want something small for a frontend.

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Twiggy|worx:

So what is the minimum for a real cpu system?

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kormoc:

I think a mobile core2duo is pretty acceptable

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Twiggy|worx:

a mobile? Arent those typically soldered into a laptop board or am I talking nonsense?

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kisak:

no, but the atom is

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Twiggy|worx:

kormoc, woul dthe mobile core2duo be a atom replacement? As in that processor would be used in the mini pc computers like what I was looking at?

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Twiggy|worx:

Or do you reccomend to stay away from the mini pcs and just go with a micro atx or something

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kormoc:

Twiggy|worx, the mobile core2duo can fit in any deign that supports it, aye. It's used in the mac minis for example (and they're smaller the most/all? atom boxes).

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Wicked:

someone posted this the other day and it looks promising: http://xtreamer.net/ultra/

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wagnerrp:

(and use less power)

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sphery:

kormoc: does the mac mini have PSU built in or does it have an external brick?

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Wicked:

looks like anice little system

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kormoc:

sphery, external brick

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wagnerrp:

aww

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kormoc:

Wicked, and only $550!

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sphery:

ah, cool... just wondered. Think tha's how the atom PCs are, too

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Wicked:

kormoc, is it?

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Wicked:

hmm. i thought i saw it cheaper

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sphery:

kormoc: but, "Xtreamer, Why pay more?"

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kormoc:

Wicked, there's a limited special of a few units at half price

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Wicked:

yea

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Wicked:

i saw the deal

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Wicked:

something with facebook sign ups

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Wicked:

http://deals.xtreamer.net/

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Wicked:

err

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Wicked:

guess its a new deal now

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kormoc:

Wicked, okay, it's only $300. I had my euro to USD rate really wrong

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Wicked:

is like 200eu? or w/e

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Wicked:

and a eu is like ....1.5usd?

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Wicked:

200 euros = 275.8600 US dollars

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FabriceMG:

wagnerrp, it's python bindings change in 0.25? (big change)

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Wicked:

which isnt too bad of a price.

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kormoc:

Wicked, meh. I rather be able to compute with my computer (shamelessly ripped from sphery)

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wagnerrp:

FabriceMG: there will be a big change in the python bindings whenever the database schemea rewrites go in

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wagnerrp:

if thats for 0.25, so be it

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Twiggy|worx:

what socket is a core2duo mobile? Same as the core 2 series?

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wagnerrp:

probably socket P

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Twiggy|worx:

I swear, I think some of you must not work lol wagnerrp I always see you in here

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Wicked:

kormoc, yea. but chances are people buying that will be buying it solely for a small compact HTPC

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Wicked:

which that should do great

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Wicked:

i dont think many people will buy that and expect to do tons of stuff on it at once.

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kormoc:

Wicked, only if your content works perfectly with VDPAU and you don't want the advanced 2x interlacers

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Twiggy|worx:

That is the only reason I am looking at another computer, 100% htpc

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kormoc:

Wicked, and no online video streaming support...

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FabriceMG:

the database is embedded in 0.25? no direct access?

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kormoc:

FabriceMG, not currently

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Wicked:

why no online streaming support?

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Wicked:

things like xbmc have plugins that support a vast majority of online content.

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Wicked:

hulu, revision3, adult swim....

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kormoc:

Wicked, sure, but it's not hardware accelerated. I have a similar atom to that box, it can't do anything above 320x240 video without getting choppy

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Wicked:

ah. well the latest flash on linux does have hardware support in it now

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kormoc:

Wicked, only for certain codecs that hulu, et-al don't use

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kormoc:

(yet)

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Wicked:

ah.

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Wicked:

well i personally dont really watch much content off online sites

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Wicked:

but then again im not buying one of those

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wagnerrp:

Twiggy|worx: thats why we get IRC proxies, never log off

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Twiggy|worx:

I meant the fact that you answer a lot of my questions, mostly at night but you are also on here other times(like now)

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wagnerrp:

im at work currently

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Twiggy|worx:

must not be flat-rate/commission like me then :)

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Twiggy|worx:

so then is there any criteria I should take into account for on a htpc other than a real cpu/mobile c2d?

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Wicked:

noise

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Wicked:

try to get as much "passive cooling" things as you can

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Twiggy|worx:

Noise doesnt really matter to me. Moreso technical specs.

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Wicked:

having a noisy htpc can really damper the mood

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Twiggy|worx:

Passive cooling would be the way I woudl go unless I needed to add active.

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Wicked:

nvidia card

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Twiggy|worx:

so then c2d mobile, nvidia card(pci-e), memory(1gb, 2gb?) and a psu to supply it all.

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Wicked:

id personally go with 2+ gigs ram

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Twiggy|worx:

for just a htpc? Nothing more.

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Wicked:

yea. but ram is so cheap

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Wicked:

but yea 2 gigs is fine

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wagnerrp:

you can make a device pretty quiet even with active cooling

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wagnerrp:

the problem is reliability

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wagnerrp:

ive never had much luck with the crappy fans that come on video cards

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Twiggy|worx:

My g 210 is passive cooled with no problems

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Twiggy|worx:

Its got a monster heatsync

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Twiggy|worx:

heatsink*

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kisak:

a G 210 doesn't have a notable heat signature anyway

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lukeer:

Hi there. I'm encountering a problem trying to use my Pinnacle PCTV Sat's composite input. Whenever I try to switch to it during live tv, the screen goes black stays that way. The only "solution" I know of is to <ctrl alt F1> to the console and reboot.

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lukeer:

Is that likely to be a misconfiguration or incompatible hardware or other opinions?

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sphery:

lukeer: no idea, but I will recommend that you make sure you're running the /very/ newest of 0.24-fixes

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lukeer:

Thanks for the hint. At the moment, it's still 0.23-fixes-something. Will be back in about four weeks ;-)

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sphery:

lukeer: 0.23-fixes stuff should be fine (as long as it's current 0.23-fixes)--it's just 0.24-fixes older than just a couple weeks has a lot of issues with Live TV

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M0nk3Ee:

Hi all, is anyone having problems with BBC One HD recently?

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M0nk3Ee:

all of a sudden i am getting "ERROR: Audio buffer overflow"

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M0nk3Ee:

BBC HD and ITV HD work fine

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M0nk3Ee:

if i set my audio settings to be just stereo it works find seems to be just when i select 5.1

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blizzard_:

2011-02–24 21:55:42.689 ERROR when trying to delete file: GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/snowball/7030_20100927082500.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed.

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blizzard_:

is there any script to clean up such invalid metadata?

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Beirdo:

Hey, Beavis... remember that time we partied with Anthrax?

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** kormoc hopes sphery is out watching the shuttle launch **

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** Beirdo thinks sphery's a bit too far north for that today. **

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** wagnerrp thinks you can watch the launches from hundreds of miles away, the night ones at least **

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Beirdo:

from NYC?

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Beirdo:

heh

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wagnerrp:

he on vacation?

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Beirdo:

I think our sphery's off on a business-type trip

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wagnerrp:

NYC, no... but polar night launches could be seen as far north as DC

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Beirdo:

nice

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veehexx:

evening all – i'm having yet more config issues with my setup... this time it's resume from suspend...

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veehexx:

i've done the stuff at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MCE_Remote, around /proc/acpi/wakeup, but the pc refuses to come out of suspend – anyone help me out.?

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justinh:

is it an MCE remote?

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justinh:

with an MCE receiver?

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justinh:

not all remotes can do the magical voodoo to power a machine on from standby

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veehexx:

it's a mce reciever, Logitech harmony remote

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wagnerrp:

veehexx: does your motherboard support wake on usb?

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veehexx:

and it works fine under windows. im just struggling to get it to wake up under mythbuntu.

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wagnerrp:

did you enable it in the bios?

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wagnerrp:

did you flip the jumper to provide 5vsb power?

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wagnerrp:

did you trigger the necessary stuff in procfs or sysfs to enable S3 wakeup in linux?

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veehexx:

let me check all that; i#'ve not changed anything since it last worked...

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veehexx:

no, i've not touched any of that, wagner...

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wagnerrp:

look in /proc/acpi/wakeup

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veehexx:

... usb channels are all ENABLED

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wagnerrp:

for S3?

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veehexx:

yes

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veehexx:

s3 should be the same between windows and linux, shouldnt it?

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veehexx:

...it's like the reciever isnt getting any power...

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wagnerrp:

does it light up when you press buttons on the remote?

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veehexx:

no

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Beirdo:

OK, who gave me hiccups?!

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Wicked:

im running two monitors with a nvidia card using seperate x sessions. If i have mythfrontend open and watching some tv on one monitor and im doing stuff on the other monitor....the one im doing stuff on is very laggy

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Wicked:

any ideas what i can do to help get rid of this lag?

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Wicked:

im not seeing big spikes in cpu or anything like that

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Beirdo:

use two computers?

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Wicked:

lol

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Wicked:

besides that? hehe

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Beirdo:

I hate hate hate VMWare Player

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wagnerrp:

whats so bad about it?

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wagnerrp:

(other than it being dirty virtualization)

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Beirdo:

q

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kormoc:

r

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wagnerrp:

ssssssssssssss

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