| Thursday, February 17th, 2011, 00:03 UTC | ||
| [00:03:58] | mianos: | is there some way to shut myth down remotely? |
| [00:04:15] | mianos: | maybe ssh and kill off the frontend and let it drop ti mythwelcome |
| [00:04:29] | wagnerrp: | you could do that, yes |
| [00:04:51] | mianos: | is there a known way to determine the front end is idle? |
| [00:05:24] | mianos: | scrape http://mythtv/mythweb/status |
| [00:05:58] | wagnerrp: | connect to the frontend control interface, query the location |
| [00:06:08] | kormoc: | mythweb's status is the backend |
| [00:06:16] | mianos: | yes I just realised |
| [00:06:22] | Beirdo: | kormoc: I must go to: http://www.shooflypiecompany.com/index.html |
| [00:06:30] | kormoc: | Yes, yes you must! |
| [00:06:36] | Beirdo: | mmmm, pie! |
| [00:06:39] | mianos: | I could see the tuners being used |
| [00:06:50] | mianos: | but it would still kill off a video playing |
| [00:07:07] | Beirdo: | will be a bit of a weekend trek, I guess. West Seattle's not the most non-car-accessible place |
| [00:07:15] | kormoc: | Mmm.. Shoofly... Strawberry Rhubarb... Key Lime... Lemon Meringue... |
| [00:07:48] | Beirdo: | yeah, they seem to have all of the great ones :) |
| [00:07:58] | Beirdo: | pecan pie made with bourbon |
| [00:08:09] | kormoc: | Beirdo, they're right on the 54/55 line, no? |
| [00:08:24] | Beirdo: | might be. I'll be investigating for sure |
| [00:09:07] | Beirdo: | looks like it |
| [00:09:19] | Beirdo: | about 1min off the 55 |
| [00:09:37] | wagnerrp: | woo! |
| [00:09:47] | wagnerrp: | building something on my laptop, just hit 85C |
| [00:09:54] | mianos: | query location is the key, thanks |
| [00:10:43] | Beirdo: | mmm, pie! |
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| [00:30:02] | Unhelpful: | wagnerrp: time for a laptop cooler maybe? i hope, at least, that you don't actually put the laptop *on your lap*. |
| [00:30:56] | mianos: | the remote control interface is pretty good |
| [00:31:15] | mianos: | a bit of python and the idle shutdown problem will be solved easy as |
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| [00:31:29] | mianos: | jump mainmenu |
| [00:31:36] | mianos: | and a few key strokes |
| [00:31:38] | mianos: | rockin |
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| [00:37:56] | wagnerrp: | mianos: if youre doing this in python, ive got access to the control interface set up in the python bindings |
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| [00:40:26] | mianos: | got a pointer? it's pretty simple I was just going to whip something up |
| [00:40:38] | mianos: | but if you want I can use your stuff and give it away |
| [00:41:52] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/0.24_Python_Bindings , perhaps? |
| [00:42:48] | kormoc: | mianos, why wouldn't you just use the bindings that are already installed on your box and make your life easier? |
| [00:43:00] | kormoc: | I mean really... reinventing the wheel has to get old sometime... |
| [00:43:00] | mianos: | because I want to talk to the frontend |
| [00:43:14] | kormoc: | mianos, and the bindings installed on your box right now can talk to the frontend... |
| [00:43:20] | mianos: | the remote control interface |
| [00:43:31] | wagnerrp: | yes, the bindings should be installed with any mythtv install |
| [00:43:34] | kormoc: | mianos, and the bindings installed on your box right now can talk to the remote control interface on the frontend... |
| [00:43:59] | mianos: | ok, as I said |
| [00:44:05] | mianos: | I'l use them if I can see them |
| [00:44:12] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [00:44:13] | sphery: | perhaps mianos doesn't like being bound |
| [00:44:24] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/0.24_Python_Bindings |
| [00:44:27] | mianos: | no problem using something that's there |
| [00:44:32] | wagnerrp: | well whatever you do, dont use any 'telnet' client |
| [00:44:36] | mianos: | sphery, no mention of remote or control there |
| [00:44:39] | kormoc: | they're open source... you can just look at the source... |
| [00:44:43] | mianos: | ok |
| [00:44:58] | mianos: | how abotu it's 5 lines in python to talk to the remote |
| [00:44:59] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/0.24_Python_bindin . . . ers#Frontend |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | mianos, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/0.24_Python_bindin . . . ers#Frontend |
| [00:45:11] | ** sphery wonders if he should keep clicking for mianos ;) ** | |
| [00:45:19] | kormoc: | mianos, and when you crash the frontend by doing it that way, don't complain to us... |
| [00:45:25] | mianos: | ok |
| [00:45:29] | mianos: | I'll use that stuff posted then |
| [00:45:38] | mianos: | gotta go to pilates then back to computa |
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| [02:17:01] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: have you tried compiling mythtv with --disable-symbol-visibilty, then compiling mythplugins |
| [02:17:14] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [02:17:20] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: seems there was a half-complete conversion of mythplugins to use symbol visibilty in Dec |
| [02:17:41] | sphery: | and this just "completed" it (but without actually defining mythplugin_init() as public |
| [02:17:42] | GreyFoxx: | but I did attempt to recompile without --enable-symbol-visibility in my configure line and it failed in programs/mythavtest |
| [02:17:56] | sphery: | yeah, --enable-symbol-visibility has since been made default |
| [02:18:02] | sphery: | so you need an explicit disable |
| [02:18:04] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [02:18:07] | GreyFoxx: | ok |
| [02:18:11] | sphery: | (that was changed shortly after 0.24) |
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| [02:18:36] | sphery: | might be easier than a revert--if nothing else, it's all computer time versus your time figuring out the revert :) |
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| [02:18:56] | GreyFoxx: | I have it compiling now, we shall see. |
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| [02:19:12] | GreyFoxx: | I'm gonna go out with the telescope and let it do it's thing :) |
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| [02:19:30] | sphery: | and I expect it to, but if^H^Hwhen it works, feel free to mention it in #mythtv to "close out" the comment :) |
| [02:20:13] | sphery: | Beirdo and I argued for a while about what was causing the failure to make mythplugin_init() visible, and in our point/counter-point, we figured out exactly what happened |
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| [02:20:43] | sphery: | now it's just a matter of someone doing up a *exp.h for each plugin and enabling it in the *.pro files |
| [02:20:58] | sphery: | (and making mythplugin_init() public) |
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| [02:21:25] | sphery: | I guess--since I'm now done with dinner--I can start. |
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| [02:22:59] | lucidblue: | hi all, I'm hoping you can help... someone from this channel once directed me to this how-to: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_Auto_Login |
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| [02:24:07] | lucidblue: | which worked great since I've put it in place, but I'd never tested that it would 'respawn' if mythfrontend died... I've had it happen twice lately and it's not working... since the machine doesn't have a keyboard or mouse, I have to restart it, doesn't anyone have any ideas? |
| [02:30:22] | wagnerrp: | the terminal manager is supposed to respawn the login |
| [02:30:36] | wagnerrp: | the only reason it would stop doing so is if it detected a loop |
| [02:30:49] | wagnerrp: | where it was running far too often |
| [02:31:59] | lucidblue: | wagnerrp: what might a log entry look like for that? |
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| [02:32:25] | wagnerrp: | maybe the user log? |
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| [02:33:44] | lucidblue: | wagnerrp: this is if I run ps aux | grep tty, not sure if it says it's still running then? http://mandriva.pastebin.com/j4CawHZH |
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| [02:42:17] | lucidblue: | wagnerrp: where might I find that? |
| [02:43:28] | wagnerrp: | 'last' |
| [02:44:51] | lucidblue: | thanks |
| [02:45:04] | lucidblue: | I do see an entry lik this for instance: lucidblu tty7 Thu Feb 3 18:54 – crash (2+16:46) |
| [02:47:51] | lucidblue: | nothing recent though... I did see where mythfrontend segfaulted... not sure why, also noticed that the log was going to the wrong spot, so I fixed that for next time... |
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| [02:51:20] | lucidblue: | not sure, I'll have to restart for now I guess... brb |
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| [02:53:41] | bonelifer: | well, figured out why I couldn't get metadata for Conan(TBS). Apparently they are number seasons by year. So currently we're on Season 2011. Wishes the box to enter the season in the metadata box was a text area so I didn't have to sit their while it scrolled. http://forums.thetvdb.com/viewtopic.php?f=12& . . . ;hilit=Conan |
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| [02:55:40] | bonelifer: | Is there some sort of thing I could add to ttvdb.conf to map this weirdness? |
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| [03:00:39] | lucidblue: | wagnerrp: this is the ps output with everything running correctly I guess: http://mandriva.pastebin.com/qHC67YUU |
| [03:00:50] | lucidblue: | anything look odd? |
| [03:01:04] | lucidblue: | Oh... they're both in there by the way, before and after |
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| [03:15:28] | wagnerrp: | lucidblue: that user 10001 is a bit of a problem |
| [03:15:50] | wagnerrp: | you seem to be running on a user that doesnt have an account |
| [03:15:54] | lucidblue: | wagnerrp: why? that's my UID |
| [03:16:06] | wagnerrp: | it should be named |
| [03:16:10] | wagnerrp: | not numbered |
| [03:16:14] | lucidblue: | how so? do you mean since it's showing the UID instead of the name? |
| [03:16:38] | lucidblue: | ps shows all user's that way, maybe it's alias'd? |
| [03:16:53] | wagnerrp: | but its showing root as root, not user 0 |
| [03:19:15] | lucidblue: | odd I guess... |
| [03:19:31] | lucidblue: | I'll ask my distro channel |
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| [03:26:21] | lucidblue: | wagnerrp: huh, I guess that's just the way it is in this distro... do you know where they get renamed? ... I know file permissions show the correct user/group nameing (unless they aren't known to the system) |
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| [03:34:56] | wagnerrp: | sphery: during final jeopardy, jennings welcomed our new computer overlords |
| [03:35:09] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, yeah, I saw that |
| [03:35:24] | sphery: | I was upset--I was planning on saying the same to you in here until he stole my joke |
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| [03:55:32] | sphery: | ThisNewGuy / GreyFoxx: FWIW, plugins should be working with latest. Need a make distclean |
| [03:55:34] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: do we have any exit-code-to-string bit for mythsystem? |
| [03:56:01] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [03:56:10] | wagnerrp: | i want to get rid of all these 'what does it mean when i fail with status xxx' threads |
| [03:56:25] | Beirdo: | it means "read the code, you lazy user" |
| [03:56:26] | wagnerrp: | and i figure something like that would be equally useful when i eventually rewrite it |
| [03:56:27] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:56:43] | Beirdo: | yeah, we should add some exitcode->string stuff |
| [03:57:02] | Beirdo: | not tonight though :) at least not me |
| [03:57:15] | Beirdo: | I also have to check for all uses of exit() |
| [03:57:29] | sphery: | wagnerrp: that would be awesome |
| [03:57:32] | Beirdo: | and take any exit codes used there and put them back below 256 |
| [03:57:36] | Beirdo: | sigh |
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| [03:58:01] | sphery: | wagnerrp: also, we need some way to deal with exit codes > 255 (since many apps have them) |
| [03:58:19] | wagnerrp: | sphery: do they? i thought it was only one byte |
| [03:58:22] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [03:58:31] | Beirdo: | no exit codes > 255 |
| [03:58:48] | Beirdo: | which is why I just said I need to adjust some :) |
| [03:58:53] | wagnerrp: | unix and dos are both 8-bit unsigned |
| [03:59:12] | bonelifer: | tvnamer will make my Conan problem much less at least. |
| [03:59:54] | sphery: | Beirdo: doesn't https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . /exitcodes.h say it does |
| [04:00:05] | sphery: | i.e. #define GENERIC_EXIT_START 276 |
| [04:00:08] | Beirdo: | sphery: yeah, but it will not actually return that |
| [04:00:16] | Beirdo: | it will return the bottom 8 bits |
| [04:00:39] | Beirdo: | which is why they need to be audited |
| [04:00:50] | sphery: | so those are all unique after only bottom 8 bits |
| [04:00:59] | sphery: | or you're saying what I am--that the shell will bork it? |
| [04:01:29] | Beirdo: | if you do exit(276), glibc strips it down to 8 bits AFAIK |
| [04:01:34] | sphery: | right |
| [04:01:43] | Beirdo: | so it's the same as exit(20) |
| [04:01:45] | sphery: | so was that something we planned for when exitcodes.h was made |
| [04:02:00] | Beirdo: | originally, but then I forgot |
| [04:02:03] | sphery: | or are our apps attempting to make use of > 255 exit codes |
| [04:02:15] | Beirdo: | the latter |
| [04:02:33] | sphery: | yeah, so we either need to handle that better (if there's some way?) or fix our exit codes :) |
| [04:02:41] | Beirdo: | agreed |
| [04:02:49] | Beirdo: | and you're gonna bug me until I do it :) |
| [04:02:50] | Beirdo: | heheh |
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| [04:03:08] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:03:12] | Beirdo: | which is a good thing |
| [04:03:18] | sphery: | it's lower priority for me than the new logger you're writing |
| [04:03:28] | sphery: | oh, wait, have I told you you're writing that, yet? |
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| [04:03:46] | wagnerrp: | new logger? |
| [04:04:28] | Beirdo: | yes, new logger :) |
| [04:04:34] | wagnerrp: | what for? |
| [04:04:35] | Beirdo: | and I haven't started yet. |
| [04:04:41] | sphery: | yeah, VERBOSE() sends strings to a stack/list, which is then processed by one or more logging providers |
| [04:04:42] | Beirdo: | better logging |
| [04:04:51] | sphery: | so that VERBOSE will actually work with DB logging |
| [04:04:57] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [04:04:57] | Beirdo: | and syslog |
| [04:04:58] | sphery: | instead of having 2 separate things for them |
| [04:05:01] | sphery: | making db logging useless |
| [04:05:10] | Beirdo: | and colorized (if we want it) on the console, etc |
| [04:05:20] | sphery: | and, yeah, syslog--so you don't have to have a boneheaded setup where a non-privileged user writes to /var/log |
| [04:05:29] | ** sphery writes to /home/mythtv/log/ ** | |
| [04:05:34] | sphery: | yep |
| [04:05:34] | wagnerrp: | well let me know your plans, and ill probably adapt mine to follow suit |
| [04:05:52] | sphery: | wagnerrp: other option is for you to just do this one for me, too :) |
| [04:05:56] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:06:17] | Beirdo: | Yeah, sounds good. I have a working system for the bot, but it would need rework for myth, bigtime |
| [04:06:35] | sphery: | and some or all of the logging providers could be asynchronous |
| [04:06:38] | ** wagnerrp wants colorized log files ** | |
| [04:06:54] | sphery: | so, for example, db logging could push them in more than one at a time |
| [04:06:58] | Beirdo: | and a debug log... with thread id, file, line if we want |
| [04:07:02] | sphery: | yeah |
| [04:07:24] | sphery: | hard part is we have a very complex VERBOSE() macro that uses different logging types depending on compile type |
| [04:07:53] | sphery: | with non-locking, mutex-locked, etc. |
| [04:08:08] | sphery: | and I fear that if we add functions into the mix, someone will complain "it's too slow" |
| [04:08:53] | sphery: | Beirdo: so, the VERBOSE macro gets inserted basically as a copy/paste inline to functions for each use, right? |
| [04:09:11] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [04:09:15] | sphery: | if so, I'd think our over-inlining may actually be preventing a lot of compiler optimizations |
| [04:09:27] | sphery: | i.e. we may have optimized it to the point of less-optimization |
| [04:09:34] | Beirdo: | quite possibly |
| [04:09:53] | wagnerrp: | ever take a look at the xbmc wiki? |
| [04:10:08] | Beirdo: | I try to pretend they don't exist |
| [04:10:13] | wagnerrp: | they really need more admins |
| [04:10:13] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:10:24] | sphery: | we have some amazing wiki admins |
| [04:10:30] | wagnerrp: | i swear, like 15% of their pages are spam |
| [04:10:34] | sphery: | even if they can't solve the __NOCACHE__ problems |
| [04:10:35] | sphery: | ;) |
| [04:10:53] | sphery: | but, seriously, you guys who keep watching over our wiki pages are doing great |
| [04:10:53] | Beirdo: | you got a pointer to that extension? |
| [04:11:03] | sphery: | Beirdo: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MagicNoCache |
| [04:11:15] | sphery: | it's a download off the wiki page thing--like our wiki scripts :) |
| [04:11:19] | Beirdo: | gracias |
| [04:11:30] | wagnerrp: | every time i check their recent changes, theres at least once new spam page |
| [04:11:37] | wagnerrp: | and rarely see them getting deleted |
| [04:11:42] | sphery: | nice |
| [04:11:52] | sphery: | yeah, wikis are great--when you have people who do a good job moderating them |
| [04:12:11] | sphery: | but far too many wikis are just free-for-all word fests |
| [04:12:15] | sphery: | with everything from user complaints |
| [04:12:17] | sphery: | to false info |
| [04:12:19] | sphery: | to spamm |
| [04:12:34] | sphery: | glad we have you guys watching ours |
| [04:13:42] | wagnerrp: | based off hitting 'random page'... it has to be somewhere over 10% |
| [04:14:43] | Beirdo: | done |
| [04:15:02] | Beirdo: | you now should have MagicNoCache |
| [04:15:03] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, missed the seconds increment, too |
| [04:15:18] | sphery: | sorry, had I seen that, could have saved the e-mails |
| [04:15:25] | sphery: | Beirdo: thanks |
| [04:15:50] | Beirdo: | no prob |
| [04:16:21] | wagnerrp: | now we just need to manually refresh all those pages |
| [04:16:28] | sphery: | where do we need to put it? |
| [04:16:40] | sphery: | or did you already put it in the codebox or some template? |
| [04:16:41] | wagnerrp: | done |
| [04:16:44] | sphery: | nice |
| [04:16:48] | sphery: | mr efficiency |
| [04:16:59] | sphery: | so purge cache for all script pages? |
| [04:17:13] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [04:17:26] | sphery: | if so, I can take a couple categories and help |
| [04:17:34] | wagnerrp: | if anyone knows how to send POST data in python, i could do it all in one shot |
| [04:17:59] | [R]: | wagnerrp: curl? |
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| [04:19:28] | sphery: | wagnerrp: send a logged-in cookie :) |
| [04:19:32] | sphery: | then no post |
| [04:19:42] | wagnerrp: | if anyone knows how to send cookies in python, i could do it all in one shot |
| [04:19:47] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:20:02] | sphery: | do you know how to send request headers? |
| [04:20:07] | sphery: | if so, I'll give you cookie format |
| [04:20:15] | [R]: | just use curl... |
| [04:22:27] | sphery: | basically: Cookie: mythwikiUserName=wagnerrp ; mythwikiUserID=123 ; mythwikiToken=53dbc39cb84bdd9d111cf133319b2f0b |
| [04:23:13] | sphery: | ooh, might need the mythwiki_session, too: mythwiki_session=4ce34017f8ca6e5ec1268f9252660df1 |
| [04:23:48] | sphery: | (and, no, those aren't my token/session values--those are recent commit has abbrev's :) |
| [04:23:58] | wagnerrp: | whats the refresh tag? |
| [04:24:07] | sphery: | ?action=purge |
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| [04:26:03] | wagnerrp: | you see any pages that need a purge? |
| [04:26:15] | sphery: | don't know how I'd tell |
| [04:26:27] | wagnerrp: | well lets run the script and see what happens... |
| [04:26:32] | sphery: | wait |
| [04:26:40] | sphery: | what about that one the user on list had issues with |
| [04:26:47] | sphery: | did you manually refresh that earlier? |
| [04:26:47] | wagnerrp: | seems its been updated |
| [04:26:51] | sphery: | ahh |
| [04:26:54] | wagnerrp: | dont recall if i did |
| [04:26:58] | sphery: | I may have |
| [04:27:13] | sphery: | wait |
| [04:27:15] | sphery: | think I have one |
| [04:27:43] | sphery: | nope |
| [04:27:49] | sphery: | someone purged it |
| [04:28:00] | sphery: | maybe you--with script? |
| [04:28:15] | sphery: | maybe not |
| [04:28:18] | wagnerrp: | havent run it yet |
| [04:30:08] | sphery: | yeah, not really seeing any that need it' |
| [04:30:23] | sphery: | much harder to check, now, since you can't use different domains for logged in/logged out |
| [04:30:24] | wagnerrp: | hopefully we wont... just ran the script |
| [04:30:30] | sphery: | (it redirects mythtv.org to www.mythtv.org) |
| [04:30:45] | sphery: | well, we'll find out if it's working, eventually :) |
| [04:33:52] | sphery: | heh, starting to think I made a boneheaded mistake |
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| [04:44:23] | sphery: | wagnerrp: did you nocache the category pages, too? |
| [04:44:36] | wagnerrp: | no, forgot to do those |
| [04:44:50] | wagnerrp: | shouldnt matter for the script at least |
| [04:44:54] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt read the category pages |
| [04:45:06] | wagnerrp: | it reads the 'what links here' of the template to find the individual script pages |
| [04:45:20] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: by the way, the new server is /much/ faster |
| [04:45:29] | wagnerrp: | 20 seconds to load, down from 76 |
| [04:45:57] | Beirdo: | niiice |
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| [04:48:47] | sphery: | yeah, category pages would be useful mainly for users who browse the wiki not logged in |
| [04:48:58] | sphery: | the cat pages get way out of sync |
| [04:49:13] | sphery: | release notes category is another possible one |
| [04:49:23] | sphery: | (scripts and release notes would be the ones I recommend) |
| [04:49:26] | wagnerrp: | main page |
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| [04:50:44] | sphery: | does it change often? |
| [04:51:28] | wagnerrp: | the news does |
| [04:51:30] | sphery: | technically release notes doesn't change often, but we seem to forget it (at least we had since 0.22) |
| [04:51:35] | wagnerrp: | but thats a separate template |
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| [06:03:29] | Kernel: | Anyone using mythweb with a android?...it used the mobile view at 1st then I used yhe reset skin thing..now its using the full site...but if I goto upcoming recordings...all I get is a blank white page |
| [06:04:08] | [R]: | theres like 2 android apps for mythtv... |
| [06:04:54] | Kernel: | Id like to use this remotely and do not want to open myth to the world...I run apache already so.... |
| [06:06:28] | kormoc: | Check your apache logs for error messages |
| [06:07:03] | Kernel: | Hmm. Ok. |
| [06:07:24] | Kernel: | Will try to check them..but am on my phone now |
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| [06:10:49] | Kernel: | Might be a memory limit |
| [06:11:02] | Kernel: | Though it worked on my desktop.... |
| [06:11:12] | Kernel: | *php memory limit |
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| [06:20:22] | Kernel: | Yup. The default myth apache config set mem to 64...bumped it up and all is well now |
| [06:20:28] | Kernel: | Cya! |
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| [07:48:10] | justinh: | heheh "Look in mythtv/libs/libmythdb/exitcodes.h". I wish I had time to humanise that type of thing |
| [07:48:54] | sphery: | heh, he says as Beirdo is completing the job :) |
| [07:49:34] | justinh: | well, about time somebody did ;-) |
| [07:49:51] | wagnerrp: | was he fixing that? or just removing the >255 codes? |
| [07:49:51] | sphery: | yeah, will be very nice to have it all cleaned up |
| [07:50:01] | sphery: | he's cleaning it all up |
| [07:50:21] | justinh: | I could never figure out why anybody went to all the trouble of converting what are almost plain errors into numbers |
| [07:50:25] | sphery: | oh, but I see I misinterpreted justinh's comment |
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| [07:50:40] | sphery: | I don't think he's making it give human-readable output |
| [07:50:49] | sphery: | though typically there should be a nice verbose before any exit |
| [07:50:58] | sphery: | other than crashes |
| [07:51:12] | justinh: | yeah but the UI would only show the number |
| [07:51:18] | sphery: | so log files probably say exactly why these transcodes, etc, are exiting |
| [07:51:23] | wagnerrp: | yeah, is there some 'proper' way to do that? or just a big switch function? |
| [07:51:30] | justinh: | & that's generally the first place people see an error |
| [07:51:42] | sphery: | no, I mean a verbose before the exit() line |
| [07:51:55] | sphery: | that basically says, "This error occured. Exiting." |
| [07:52:00] | sphery: | or whatever |
| [07:52:01] | wagnerrp: | you cant very well log before a segfault |
| [07:52:05] | sphery: | true |
| [07:52:06] | justinh: | I think it mostly does that |
| [07:52:19] | sphery: | so the non-crash ones are likely handled OK |
| [07:52:20] | justinh: | but seeing a job status in the UI as some obscure number doesn't really help much |
| [07:53:00] | justinh: | it's on my list somewhere.. not a hard job – as likely as not – but not a high priority for me |
| [07:53:58] | Beirdo: | crash exits have nothing to do with the exitcodes |
| [07:54:19] | Beirdo: | and anything that's run from myth_system will track what signal killed it if it crashed |
| [07:54:51] | Beirdo: | the exit codes are in the process of being consolidated. |
| [07:54:59] | justinh: | then again if everything 'just worked' everytime there'd be no need to decode error codes :P |
| [07:54:59] | Beirdo: | and then remapped to < 255 |
| [07:55:46] | sphery: | does myth_system() say what signal killed it? |
| [07:56:10] | Beirdo: | in the logs, yes |
| [07:56:11] | sphery: | maybe the main problem on users is that people are still using 0.24, which has old "all over the place" system stuff |
| [07:56:18] | Beirdo: | if you have that logging turned on |
| [07:56:47] | wagnerrp: | sphery: the users were complaining about the jobqueue |
| [07:56:48] | sphery: | and, IIRC, older system calls sometimes printed out exit valuess without shifting and such |
| [07:56:55] | wagnerrp: | which used the old myth_system |
| [07:57:01] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [07:57:13] | wagnerrp: | in addition to the logs |
| [07:57:18] | wagnerrp: | it prints the error code to the database |
| [07:57:38] | wagnerrp: | which they probably saw either in the system information screen, or backend web status page |
| [07:58:05] | sphery: | ah, so they got good error code |
| [07:58:12] | justinh: | yeah but it'd be altogether nicer if a plain english string was shown rather than just a number |
| [07:58:19] | sphery: | but with new mythsystem would get better info in logs |
| [07:58:38] | Beirdo: | justinh: yeah, that's what logs are for :) |
| [07:58:40] | sphery: | and when Beirdo writes the new logger, that log info will even be available in the db, if they enable the db log provider |
| [07:58:44] | wagnerrp: | now i know ive seen something in the code like that |
| [07:58:59] | Beirdo: | but yeah, it should be nicer |
| [07:59:00] | justinh: | Beirdo: FWIW though mythfrontend may as well just say ERROR than the number |
| [07:59:01] | wagnerrp: | some form of enum that will translate between numbers and strings |
| [07:59:16] | justinh: | or 'FAILED! look in the backend log" |
| [07:59:31] | sphery: | justinh: but usually, we verbose some plain english error message before the exit() call |
| [08:00:00] | sphery: | where we don't we should probably put in such log messages |
| [08:00:09] | justinh: | hmm. wonder if it'd be possible to ferret through the log for the related output & display that in a popup |
| [08:00:11] | sphery: | (or where we have them hidden at wrong verbose levels) |
| [08:00:40] | justinh: | bah. planning for failures.. |
| [08:00:45] | justinh: | ;) |
| [08:01:13] | sphery: | maybe Beirdo's new log provider will allow per-child-process log "containment"/output |
| [08:01:30] | wagnerrp: | was it ABC that ran the previous wonderwoman? |
| [08:01:40] | sphery: | I should quit joking or soon he'll start to think I really expect him to write it |
| [08:01:41] | justinh: | they rebooted that? Oh boy |
| [08:01:52] | wagnerrp: | justinh: they rebooted it a couple years ago |
| [08:01:55] | Beirdo: | heheheh |
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| [08:01:57] | wagnerrp: | cancelled after half a season |
| [08:02:04] | wagnerrp: | NBC is trying to reboot it again |
| [08:02:14] | Beirdo: | sphery: that can be discussed |
| [08:02:22] | wagnerrp: | and ABC is trying charlies angels |
| [08:02:37] | sphery: | wagnerrp: wonder woman? I remember a bionic woman... |
| [08:02:50] | wagnerrp: | oh, bionic woman, right |
| [08:02:54] | sphery: | that was nbc |
| [08:03:05] | ** sphery misses Michelle Ryan ** | |
| [08:03:20] | justinh: | sheesh. Yogi Bear in 3D, Wonder Woman.. the madness will never end |
| [08:03:40] | sphery: | hmmm, seems she's on Doctor Who |
| [08:04:57] | wagnerrp: | i never really liked wonder woman |
| [08:05:13] | justinh: | sphery: for one episode |
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| [08:05:34] | justinh: | you should've seen her in Eastenders. Then you wouldn't be so keen |
| [08:06:19] | wagnerrp: | holy crap... 503 episode? in only 5 years? |
| [08:06:28] | wagnerrp: | 6 years |
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| [08:18:56] | bonelifer: | wishes for a day where the smell in the air was napalm and the burning flesh of spammers. |
| [08:18:57] | bonelifer: | :( |
| [08:19:27] | wagnerrp: | something particularly malicious spur on your ire? |
| [08:20:04] | bonelifer: | the shit load of spam that we've been getting at a forum I'm a moderator on. |
| [08:20:15] | wagnerrp: | watch the language |
| [08:20:20] | bonelifer: | sorry |
| [08:21:06] | wagnerrp: | i like the ones where they sign up, make some inane comments completely unrelated to the topic but otherwise benign |
| [08:21:20] | wagnerrp: | so when they start posting links, they have several posts next to their name |
| [08:21:42] | justinh: | I'd sooner have spammers on a forum than trolls |
| [08:21:48] | bonelifer: | the ones with the small non-offensive avatars and every field filled out |
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| [08:22:29] | wagnerrp: | most forums ive been on dont let you have an avatar until you reach a certain post count |
| [08:22:35] | bonelifer: | we've started dropping all registrations that are in the UTC-12 tz since it's uninhabited. |
| [08:23:07] | bonelifer: | the point is that they do everything to make you think their normal accounts, but in their quest the make so obvious |
| [08:24:00] | bonelifer: | but still, had one today from a sleeper account. The good thing is they first post must be approved, the bad news manual profile cleanup |
| [08:24:08] | wagnerrp: | check our our user creation log... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Special:Log/newusers |
| [08:24:19] | wagnerrp: | if the 'contribs' text is blue, the user has made an edit |
| [08:24:23] | wagnerrp: | if its red, they have not |
| [08:24:45] | wagnerrp: | if you go back through the history, better than half our registered users have never made a single edit |
| [08:24:51] | wagnerrp: | it confuses me to no end |
| [08:24:54] | justinh: | Linuxmaster... now there's a name made of FAIL |
| [08:25:44] | bonelifer: | sadly they are now at or above 20% cracking rate on reCatpcha |
| [08:26:21] | justinh: | ouch |
| [08:26:34] | justinh: | just make everybody pay to register |
| [08:26:37] | bonelifer: | it was 20% about a month ago. |
| [08:26:45] | bonelifer: | not sure what it is now |
| [08:26:57] | wagnerrp: | weve got some pretty impressive layer of filtering going on trac |
| [08:27:11] | justinh: | just $0.01 or something – but it'll put the naughties off :D |
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| [08:27:18] | wagnerrp: | if you look at the spam monitoring |
| [08:27:40] | wagnerrp: | about 95% of the tickets or comments posted to trac are spam |
| [08:27:45] | justinh: | I'm starting to see genuine comments being spotted as spam by Akismet. That's gonna get annoying |
| [08:27:49] | bonelifer: | yeah, I don't think people downloading a free software forum package would pay even .01 |
| [08:28:38] | wagnerrp: | justinh: oh? do they get outright blocked? or overruled by the other filters? |
| [08:29:26] | justinh: | wagnerrp: just stopped. I moderate everything from addresses who've never posted before |
| [08:29:58] | wagnerrp: | oh, are you talking about your own pages, not myth's trac? |
| [08:30:17] | justinh: | arghh. I've got a caps lock unsync between freenx & my desktop machine |
| [08:30:43] | justinh: | there should be an OS setting to disable that key |
| [08:30:48] | justinh: | wagnerrp: yeah, my own site |
| [08:31:10] | bonelifer: | on one forum I'm an admin/moderator on, we use a mod that checks against SFS and posts a report. so many spammers. |
| [08:31:42] | wagnerrp: | we do akismet on trac, but we also have typepad, a bayesian filter, and a regex filter |
| [08:32:05] | wagnerrp: | they all carry weight, positive or negative |
| [08:32:12] | justinh: | I find the most depressing thing about spam is that if it didn't get them results they wouldn't bother |
| [08:32:22] | wagnerrp: | so if one gets a false positive, the others might push it through |
| [08:33:05] | justinh: | as for recaptcha etc.. don't discount the fact a lot of outfits are now using real people |
| [08:33:08] | wagnerrp: | and then theres a basic email address filter on top of that |
| [08:33:23] | wagnerrp: | that will only allow stuff through if using a properly formatted address |
| [08:33:39] | wagnerrp: | justinh: theyve been doing that for years now |
| [08:33:47] | bonelifer: | justinh, the reCaptcha problem is that you don't have to get the answer exact. this is the loophole they are starting to exploit |
| [08:33:52] | wagnerrp: | set up another site, porn or something, and run the captchas through it |
| [08:34:27] | justinh: | heh |
| [08:34:40] | justinh: | grrr... how am I gonna fix this caps lock issue I wonder.. |
| [08:34:55] | bonelifer: | look at the keyboard sternly? |
| [08:35:45] | justinh: | gonna try setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps |
| [08:36:08] | wagnerrp: | looks like we would have had one go through on trac today if not for the email filter |
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| [08:37:58] | wagnerrp: | justinh: more often than not, they are not expecting users on that website to actually click on the links |
| [08:38:12] | wagnerrp: | theyre using it to boost rankings on search engines |
| [08:38:29] | ** Beirdo compiles after changing the exit codes around ** | |
| [08:38:29] | justinh: | ah so it's Google's fault |
| [08:38:41] | wagnerrp: | the higher profile the site, and the longer the link remains, the more effective it is |
| [08:38:49] | wagnerrp: | justinh: yeah, pretty much |
| [08:39:01] | bonelifer: | nothing like going to the moderation queue to be slapped in the face with a huge porn image. |
| [08:39:14] | ** wagnerrp heads to bed ** | |
| [08:39:44] | Beirdo: | free porn delivery service |
| [08:41:04] | bonelifer: | when you aren't expecting it, it just in your face. o.O |
| [08:42:19] | Beirdo: | wow, I'm surprised not to hear "that's what she said" on that one |
| [08:43:34] | bonelifer: | well if my other fellow staff member were here he would of said that and where's his beer to go with his porn? |
| [08:43:46] | justinh: | haha fixed it |
| [08:43:49] | justinh: | phew. |
| [08:44:06] | justinh: | must set up a profile to disable it permanently in future |
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| [08:50:02] | Beirdo: | come on, frontend box, finish compiling so I can go to bed |
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| [09:08:51] | Beirdo: | OK, time to sleep |
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| [09:13:01] | justinh: | hahahaha http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news . . . percent.html |
| [09:13:16] | justinh: | they want an average of 7 minutes of adverts per TV hour |
| [09:13:41] | justinh: | sometimes I question the sanity of the house of lords but in this case, not :) |
| [09:17:00] | justinh: | oh wait.. ITV & C5 are already capped to 7 mins per hour on average. They get around it by having v. short breaks at off-peak times. Grr |
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| [12:49:26] | adub_: | when i run mythfrontend i have the taskbars at the top and bottom of the screen in ubuntu |
| [12:49:40] | adub_: | it use to run in full screen |
| [12:50:00] | adub_: | is there a command line option for mythfrontend |
| [12:50:09] | justinh: | mythfrontend.real |
| [12:50:29] | adub_: | justinh thanks that will full screen it |
| [12:50:47] | adub_: | also i noticed im only getting channels 2–13 on my cable analog signal |
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| [12:52:11] | justinh: | adub_: no it won't full screen it but it'll at least allow you to run it with --help |
| [12:55:57] | adub_: | mine use to full screen but i think the nonfree drivers i installed for my nvidia card either that or im using hdmi something is not letting it full screen |
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| [13:04:55] | FabriceMG: | adub_: wait a minute, disable 1 option in appearance, i look in VM |
| [13:05:48] | adub_: | ok fabricemg and thanks for looking into this |
| [13:06:04] | FabriceMG: | system -> appeanance ->visual effect-> check normal |
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| [13:06:35] | adub_: | is this in frontend options |
| [13:06:41] | FabriceMG: | no |
| [13:06:48] | FabriceMG: | desktop |
| [13:07:59] | adub_: | i have normal selected |
| [13:08:18] | adub_: | fabriceMG do you have full screen and no taskbars |
| [13:08:35] | FabriceMG: | yes |
| [13:09:00] | FabriceMG: | check none, and test |
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| [13:13:56] | adub_: | joy how do i restore my mythfrontend default settings |
| [13:14:08] | adub_: | i cant see jack the screen is giant sized big |
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| [13:16:45] | adub_: | mythfrontend -reset only does some things |
| [13:16:54] | adub_: | its not fixing my giant sized crap' |
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| [13:20:55] | FabriceMG: | adub_: the good way is none checked in visual effect |
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| [13:31:32] | adub_: | ok i got it fixed i had to reboot machine after reset which i found odd but that did it |
| [13:31:38] | justinh: | gah the one time I want to use thetvdb & it's down |
| [13:31:44] | adub_: | and mythfrontend -reset |
| [13:31:47] | adub_: | fixed it |
| [13:32:06] | adub_: | sorry justinh |
| [13:32:54] | adub_: | anyone have any idea on getting hd sound working my computer sound through my hdmi is not working at all nor is my analog but i would rather get sound working through my hdmi |
| [13:33:25] | adub_: | the hdmi is my preferred video delivery method |
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| [13:37:55] | FabriceMG: | adub_: What is your graphic card? |
| [13:38:10] | adub_: | gt 240 geforce |
| [13:38:40] | FabriceMG: | http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDM . . . 20,_or_GT240 |
| [13:38:44] | adub_: | i have mythtv setup and working |
| [13:39:40] | adub_: | cool i can only hope this works thanks ill try that |
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| [13:47:20] | JEDIDIAH___: | you have to upgrade ALSA |
| [13:47:32] | JEDIDIAH___: | (most likely) |
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| [14:04:36] | justinh: | woohoo animated icons again |
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| [14:13:57] | justinh: | oh. the PBBC doesn't update commflagged status in 0.23.. not without going out & coming back into it again |
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| [14:49:33] | _Nuetron_: | hey everyone... I bought a hauppauge 850 and did a fresh install of mythubuntu 10.10 and have been having a heck of a time getting it to work.. I finally found I have the newest version of the 850 (USB ID 2040:b140) and need kernel 2.6.37, i'm going to try that but if it fails I'm just going to take back the card and find one that works. Does anyone know if the ATI wonder 650 is supported? found it on craigslist for $25.00 |
| [14:50:11] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [14:50:11] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
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| [14:57:33] | JEDIDIAH___: | how well maintained is that though? v4L is probably a better place to look. |
| [14:57:41] | wagnerrp: | he left |
| [14:57:48] | wagnerrp: | and that is the v4l wiki |
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| [14:58:04] | JEDIDIAH___: | yes. I guess it is. |
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| [15:08:38] | adub_: | jedidiah___ i did upgrade alsa i now have the drivers i unmuted in alsa mixer as well as disabled onboard sound in bios but now no sound still also created group audio and added my standard user NO SOUND still |
| [15:08:40] | adub_: | :) |
| [15:10:17] | JEDIDIAH___: | as root you should be able to run aplay -l and see the NVIDIA sound devices. |
| [15:10:28] | adub_: | i see the devices |
| [15:10:54] | JEDIDIAH___: | you should be able to use aplay and send directly to one of those outputs and hear the noise. |
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| [15:11:14] | JEDIDIAH___: | might take awhile to work out which is the right device. |
| [15:12:02] | JEDIDIAH___: | I use an .asoundrc file for my ION boxes that I use HDMI sound on. |
| [15:12:16] | adub_: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/568252/ |
| [15:12:45] | adub_: | i dont care to have analog sound so i just disabled it onboard |
| [15:12:48] | JEDIDIAH___: | ...that looks familiar. |
| [15:13:09] | JEDIDIAH___: | something like pcm "hw:1,7" should work as your output device. |
| [15:13:10] | adub_: | i have been fighting with this for several days and many hours |
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| [15:13:33] | JEDIDIAH___: | If you search the mailing list you should find a few examples of .asoundrc |
| [15:13:37] | adub_: | i have been trying to do test play through aplay of wavs |
| [15:14:49] | adub_: | http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc |
| [15:14:53] | adub_: | from the example |
| [15:14:56] | JEDIDIAH___: | you just have play around with the hw parameter in aplay until you get something that works. |
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| [15:22:11] | adub_: | not really sure where to begin on this |
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| [15:44:54] | FabriceMG: | adub_: It's good for your HDMI? |
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| [15:56:45] | adub__: | still having trouble getting sound working when i play something with the hdmi sound then it shows in the preference editor that something is playing it acts as if sound is there but there is no sound coming out |
| [15:57:02] | adub__: | do all hdmi cables allow for sound to be played through them |
| [15:58:03] | wagnerrp: | yes |
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| [16:03:12] | adub__: | wagnerrp i dont get it my hd sound is acting like its workingn but im not hearing anything i have the settings on the monitor im using set to use internal speakers |
| [16:03:31] | adub__: | it seems i have been working on this for countless hours i have the latest alsa drivers installed still no sound |
| [16:04:13] | adub__: | alsamixer has s/pdif all set to zero so theey are turned on |
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| [17:51:27] | adub: | still no hdmi audio the audio is playing but no sound |
| [17:51:36] | adub: | and the sound is also detected |
| [17:51:51] | adub: | gt 240 geforce any recommendations on this?? |
| [17:59:23] | Shadow__X: | so the audio is playing but there is no sound |
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| [18:06:03] | stuartm: | adub: are you certain that you've configured it to use the correct audio device? |
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| [18:14:02] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: you don't have to worry about the -fixes release notes (unless I dissapear or something), because I add every single change, in order, that gets committed to fixes |
| [18:14:12] | skd5aner: | that way, people know what has changed since they last upgraded |
| [18:14:30] | wagnerrp: | ok |
| [18:14:33] | skd5aner: | and if it's worth updating to current fixes from whatever revision they may be currently running |
| [18:14:36] | skd5aner: | thank you though :) |
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| [19:27:59] | iamlindoro: | FabriceMG: Do you intend to attach logs and a backtrace to your ticket? |
| [19:28:24] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
| [19:28:35] | iamlindoro: | We cannot solve a crash without a correct backtrace |
| [19:28:47] | iamlindoro: | ah, there it is |
| [19:29:09] | FabriceMG: | wait :) |
| [19:29:28] | FabriceMG: | my ubuntu freeze, reboot ....... |
| [19:29:38] | FabriceMG: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9596 |
| [19:30:51] | iamlindoro: | Crash is in ffmpeg, though |
| [19:34:35] | FabriceMG: | iamlindoro, is the ticket correct? |
| [19:35:32] | iamlindoro: | Ticket looks fine, thanks-- just not sure it can be fixed in MythTV code, as the crash occurs in ffmpeg code |
| [19:38:00] | FabriceMG: | It is not blocking |
| [19:38:13] | FabriceMG: | I would not have seen if I did not watch the log file |
| [19:47:18] | ** wagnerrp wonders if people read the version output ** | |
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| [19:49:04] | pjcrux: | hello all I'm experiencing a sound issue on recordings that I can't nail down. I'm using Fedora 14 with the latest mythtv rpm from rpmfusion. |
| [19:49:07] | pjcrux: | if I record a movie using "record this show in this time slot every week" I get a sound problem. If I just do record this show then the sound is fine. |
| [19:50:34] | wagnerrp: | the same show on the same station? |
| [19:50:56] | pjcrux: | I've looked at the wiki for troubleshooting sound and while a positive learning experience was not able to resolve the issue. Thoughts? |
| [19:51:28] | pjcrux: | any show any station as long as "record this show in this time slot every week" is the recording choice. |
| [19:54:16] | pjcrux: | any show any station as long as "record this show in this time slot every week" is the recording choice I receive the staticy sound that is also tinny. |
| [19:54:42] | ** pjcrux ask forgiveness for spelling even though english is his native language ** | |
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| [20:01:44] | pjcrux: | some more info that may help I'm using a PVR-500 on NTSC cable in the United States. |
| [20:02:02] | FabriceMG: | 0.24 or 0.23? |
| [20:02:10] | pjcrux: | 0.24 |
| [20:02:25] | pjcrux: | I think it's the .024–5 rpm from rpmfusion |
| [20:02:41] | pjcrux: | was having the same issue on 0.24–2 rpm |
| [20:02:57] | pjcrux: | was not having the issue on 0.23 |
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| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | FabriceMG: what was the H.264 recorded from? |
| [20:04:10] | Beirdo: | is that HDPVR or some other source? |
| [20:04:18] | wagnerrp: | DVB most likely |
| [20:04:21] | FabriceMG: | DVB-T |
| [20:04:29] | kz_: | Does MythTV support multiple clients watching the same live-tv stream from a single tuner? |
| [20:04:40] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [20:04:45] | Beirdo: | good to know |
| [20:04:46] | wagnerrp: | kz_: livetv? no |
| [20:04:55] | wagnerrp: | but you can remove the filter in the watch recordings screen |
| [20:05:01] | Beirdo: | don't know if it will make any difference to the results. |
| [20:05:07] | wagnerrp: | and play back the recording the livetv session is producing |
| [20:05:32] | kz_: | wagnerrp: so can i watch livetv that's about 10s delayed on mulitple clients? |
| [20:05:49] | wagnerrp: | you could, but dont expect to get it synchronized |
| [20:05:57] | kz_: | wagnerrp: sure |
| [20:05:59] | wagnerrp: | and the viewing clients wont follow channel changes |
| [20:06:03] | wagnerrp: | or show changes |
| [20:06:16] | FabriceMG: | Beirdo, I look if on my dvb-s2 is the same wait |
| [20:06:19] | wagnerrp: | so you really may as well just schedule what youre intending to watch at that point |
| [20:06:23] | kz_: | wagnerrp: right, do you know if there's any other software that can do this? i have a hd homerun |
| [20:06:49] | kz_: | wagnerrp: yeah, we are trying to follow an event "almost" live |
| [20:07:54] | Beirdo: | FabriceMG: it could well just be a bad recording. If the data's corrupted enough, then ffmpeg won't be able to parse it properly to be able to playback or make previews, etc. |
| [20:08:39] | Beirdo: | by ffmpeg, I mean the ffmpeg libraries that we are using in mythtv. |
| [20:08:48] | Beirdo: | anyways, lunch time. Be back later. |
| [20:09:09] | FabriceMG: | Beirdo, I don't have this on my dvb-s2 |
| [20:09:28] | uW: | kz_: in my opinion if you are trying something like that..you might want to use a different solution that you can multicast one stream |
| [20:09:43] | kz_: | uw: do you have any suggestions? |
| [20:10:30] | FabriceMG: | Beirdo, I going to look for it with the DVB-T |
| [20:10:37] | pjcrux: | wagnerrp: would my issue be better suited to the mythtv-users list? |
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| [20:11:03] | Beirdo: | is it always the same recording that causes a crash? If so, does it playback correctly? |
| [20:11:23] | uW: | kz_: do u wanna record or just broadcast |
| [20:12:47] | kz_: | uW: broadcast |
| [20:13:42] | FabriceMG: | Beirdo, no , the livetv is good, signal 95%, and if I zap , the backend log this crash |
| [20:14:15] | uW: | kz_: i think vlc could do something like that |
| [20:14:52] | kz_: | uW: hmm, we tried that first. but didn't get too far. it's not very reliable |
| [20:19:44] | kz_: | uW and wagnerrp: thanks! |
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| [20:22:46] | FabriceMG: | Beirdo, very low priority, the backend and frontend don't crash, just some line in log file |
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| [20:44:09] | Wicked: | anyone know if its normal for a show that i thought was supposed to be in hd(720) but really is 480 with side black bars? |
| [20:44:23] | Wicked: | i recorded a show off of fox tv via my firewire setup |
| [20:44:37] | Wicked: | and the file is 720...but the picture has black bars on each side |
| [20:45:18] | Wicked: | but i had heard that the show switched to hd this last season. |
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| [20:50:30] | justinh: | Wicked: upscaling is the scourge of HD channels |
| [20:50:39] | Wicked: | indeed. |
| [20:50:43] | justinh: | so is letterboxing. and pillarboxing |
| [20:50:53] | Wicked: | from the reading i did....it seems fox is notorious for upscaling |
| [20:50:58] | Wicked: | or pillerboxing |
| [20:51:17] | Wicked: | ie claiming hd..when its really 480 pillboxed |
| [20:51:37] | justinh: | so go slay some execs. that'll show em |
| [20:51:54] | Wicked: | lol |
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| [20:57:27] | stuartm: | Wicked: how new/old is the show and series in question? |
| [20:57:40] | Wicked: | new. tmz is the show |
| [20:57:43] | stuartm: | just out of curiosity ... |
| [20:57:44] | Wicked: | on fox |
| [20:58:05] | Wicked: | i had heard it switched to hd this year...but it was pillarboxed for the recording i recorded lastnight |
| [20:58:20] | Wicked: | but i also did just read that some air'ings of the show are and some are not |
| [20:58:25] | stuartm: | ah, tmz sounds like something they'd call a crappy music video channel over here |
| [20:58:25] | adub: | anyone really good troubleshooting audio problems |
| [20:58:33] | Wicked: | one forum post claimed that its later airing is not in hd |
| [20:59:01] | Wicked: | stuartm, lol its a silly celebrity type show. they show clips and stuff of celebs |
| [20:59:57] | stuartm: | nothing in the UK is pillar-boxed, hasn't been for years, but then we've had widescreen for a lot longer, long before HD |
| [21:00:19] | trumee: | anybody tried this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hi-Power-Serial-IR-Tran . . . em2e9d30c0cc ? |
| [21:00:31] | stuartm: | well 'nothing' isn't quite right, old content and a few US imports are still 4:3 |
| [21:00:44] | Wicked: | ah. its not a big deal as i only record the show to watch when there is nothing else to watch. |
| [21:00:55] | trumee: | i have mceusb transreceiver and was wondering if the one above is better |
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| [21:01:15] | Wicked: | but just kinda feel jipped that its 480 pillarboxes when i recorded it off the fox hd station |
| [21:01:18] | trumee: | i would like to control the settop box using transmitter |
| [21:02:40] | Wicked: | trumee, what kinda stb? ive had horrible issues with using a ir reciever as of late. |
| [21:02:48] | Wicked: | i ended up switching it over to firewire |
| [21:02:52] | Wicked: | which works so much better |
| [21:03:47] | trumee: | Wicked: some chinese shit, http://www.dennetworks.com/digital-cable/digi . . . ardware.aspx |
| [21:03:47] | stuartm: | it's not all perfect over here, for some reason a couple of the crappier channels can't seem to play out their stuff with the right flags, I've a recording here which is both pillar-boxed and letter-boxed despite being 16:9! |
| [21:04:34] | trumee: | Wicked: The device is bare bones, with no interface except a ir receiver |
| [21:05:31] | ** trumee doesnt even own that the set-top box. Still on order. The cable provider forces to use that box. ** | |
| [21:05:57] | Wicked: | hmm |
| [21:06:05] | trumee: | Wicked: Page 7/8 has the front and rear controls, http://www.dennetworks.com/digital-cable/pdf/ . . . -english.pdf |
| [21:06:13] | Wicked: | id check to see if it has a firewire and if its supposed by a channel changer |
| [21:06:37] | trumee: | Wicked: no firewire interface |
| [21:06:53] | Wicked: | ah. |
| [21:07:06] | Wicked: | yea. im not very sure. #lirc might be a good place to ask as well |
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| [21:07:36] | trumee: | Are all Ir receivers in set top boxes the same? I have a mceusb2 transreciever, and i am hoping the stb will work with that. |
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| [21:08:13] | Wicked: | i dont know. but i dont think they are. i know there are different kinds or ir recievers |
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| [21:09:55] | trumee: | The stb costs only £10. So it wouldnt have expensive components. |
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| [21:11:29] | trumee: | Azelphur: how is the joggler running? |
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| [22:25:28] | Azelphur: | trumee: the microsd card failed :( |
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| [22:25:39] | trumee: | Azelphur: uh oh |
| [22:25:54] | Azelphur: | indeed, planning on attempting it again sometime but with a read only filesystem |
| [22:25:59] | Azelphur: | or at the very least not a journaling fs |
| [22:26:05] | Azelphur: | kinda eats the microSD's |
| [22:26:07] | trumee: | Azelphur: you should try that btrfs fs image |
| [22:26:11] | Azelphur: | yea |
| [22:26:34] | trumee: | Azelphur: i have a usb drive which has been running fine for a few months nows |
| [22:26:40] | Azelphur: | nice |
| [22:26:50] | trumee: | Azelphur: last week i moved over to btrfs image |
| [22:26:59] | Azelphur: | I have no luck with MicroSD, I've fried a 16GB Class 6, and 2 4GB MicroSDs over the past few months :( |
| [22:27:18] | Azelphur: | class 6 has warranty though \o/ |
| [22:27:37] | trumee: | Azelphur: Usb pen drives are dirt cheap. |
| [22:27:43] | Azelphur: | indeed |
| [22:27:52] | Azelphur: | I like my microsd card reader though, it looks so pretty |
| [22:28:22] | trumee: | Azelphur: ah!, my kitchen is usually messy, so i dont care the pen drive sticking out |
| [22:28:30] | Azelphur: | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/2010-06-11%2022.35.06.jpg |
| [22:28:33] | Azelphur: | you can barely even see it :D |
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| [22:29:40] | trumee: | Azelphur: You picked up two! |
| [22:29:44] | Azelphur: | yup |
| [22:30:15] | Azelphur: | I got another 4GB MicroSD card on the way so I'll use that to have another crack at it |
| [22:30:30] | Azelphur: | trumee: did you see my joggler alarm clock? that was my favourite |
| [22:30:58] | trumee: | Azelphur: the btrfs image has a boot parameter to use 80 degrees C before throttling starts. it helps a lot |
| [22:31:11] | Azelphur: | yea, I already tweaked that manually |
| [22:31:26] | trumee: | Azelphur: alarm clock? |
| [22:31:26] | Azelphur: | but I'll probably use btrfs with the hope of not frying another microsd :D |
| [22:31:35] | Azelphur: | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/N . . . 80_scrot.png |
| [22:31:54] | trumee: | Azelphur: ah, nice |
| [22:32:11] | Azelphur: | powered by conky \o/ |
| [22:32:23] | Azelphur: | I had a mythtv button in the top left too I could press to launch mythtv |
| [22:32:29] | trumee: | Azelphur: i use joggler exclusively for MythTv. When it is idle i prefer a black screen just to save the lcd and some power |
| [22:32:39] | Azelphur: | :) |
| [22:33:14] | bobgill: | I just deleted a boatload of recordings via frontend and something is up, I can tell the files have not deleted from the BE, wondering how to scour the recordings dir and find these files so I can remove them, other than viewing one by one? (I use mythrename to a recording-links dir just fine but many of these are .avi and don't symlink with that) |
| [22:33:27] | trumee: | Azelphur: i dont really want any fancy window manager, just a barebones X would do me. |
| [22:33:37] | Azelphur: | trumee: same |
| [22:34:00] | trumee: | Azelphur: but that easystroke gesture software is awesome. without it, i dont think i stand a chance |
| [22:34:16] | Azelphur: | yea, easystroke is awesome I use it on my PC a lot |
| [22:34:29] | trumee: | Azelphur: your PC has a touch monitor? |
| [22:34:37] | Azelphur: | trumee: no, I use the mouse for gestures :) |
| [22:34:47] | trumee: | Azelphur: ah i see. nice :) |
| [22:35:23] | trumee: | Azelphur: i dont know how to use the diskspace on the usb drive. It is 20GB and i use only 4 GB for the image |
| [22:35:37] | Azelphur: | I think you have to create more partitions |
| [22:35:53] | trumee: | Azelphur: yes but how do i fill it up ? :) |
| [22:36:04] | trumee: | Azelphur: it is going waste atm. |
| [22:36:15] | Azelphur: | *shrug* nothing to fill it with if all you want is a mythfrontend? |
| [22:36:31] | trumee: | Azelphur: yes, that is the problem :) |
| [22:36:39] | Azelphur: | hehe |
| [22:36:48] | trumee: | Azelphur: i like your idea of a readonly fs. how would you do that? |
| [22:36:59] | Azelphur: | nfi I'd ask exobuzz |
| [22:37:11] | Azelphur: | he lurks in ubuntu-uk seen him about. |
| [22:37:27] | Azelphur: | but I'll probably do btrfs since it's there and should be cool |
| [22:37:57] | trumee: | Azelphur: so it want be a tftp or anything, rather than use ram for writing. like knoppix |
| [22:38:09] | Azelphur: | yea |
| [22:38:47] | trumee: | Azelphur: Advantage of a readonly fs is that one could keep a back-up of the image and reflash it when the microsd fails |
| [22:39:40] | Azelphur: | indeed |
| [22:40:40] | trumee: | Azelphur: so what temperature have you set for throttling? |
| [22:40:56] | Azelphur: | 80 |
| [22:41:29] | trumee: | Azelphur: right. that seems to work ok. i see max temp going upto 75 |
| [22:41:39] | Azelphur: | :) |
| [22:42:52] | trumee: | Azelphur: off to bed now. see you later |
| [22:42:58] | Azelphur: | cya |
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| [23:20:33] | momelod: | greetings channel |
| [23:20:42] | momelod: | any sound experts in here? |
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| [23:37:07] | skd5aner: | any good info out there on recommended HD-PVR bitrates (besides max 'em out)? |
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| [23:43:17] | skd5aner: | oh yea, maxed out turns on "VBR" right? |
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| [23:45:15] | Guest25981: | 1. I tried to rip a dvd, everything went ok until I tried to access it from the video menu, to see that it wasn't there, But I did find the video on the UpnP server with VLC, it was in the video file but in a sub-file called videoroot. All of the storage groups seem to be ok. I cant figure out why it keeps putting my video in videoroot. What should I do to access my videos? |
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