| Saturday, February 12th, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:25] | sphery: | I can only see a very small network |
| [00:01:27] | GreyFoxx: | iaml: hehe they are horrible to try and read. My eyes still go crossed :) |
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| [00:01:42] | sphery: | I'm thinking the main problem with IPv6 is that we need it /and/ IPv4. Maybe if I just use a time machine to go years into the future when I just need one, then I won't be so annoyed by it. |
| [00:01:44] | GreyFoxx: | cut and paste is used MUCH more often for that now rather than just memory ;) |
| [00:02:02] | iamlindoro: | I'm sure all the people who think they're powerful and accessible are the ones who think I'm a moron for not being comfortable with git |
| [00:02:03] | GreyFoxx: | sphery: I use both here (known as dual stack) |
| [00:02:10] | sphery: | and by then, the devices I want to use (games consoles, etc.) might support ipv6 |
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| [00:02:31] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: yeah, I'll eventually do that... just annoying for an OC guy like me |
| [00:02:53] | GreyFoxx: | iaml: heh |
| [00:03:10] | wagnerrp: | sphery: well since they all upgrade frequently over the network these days... its possible the current bout could become ipv6 capable |
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| [00:03:39] | sphery: | makes debugging network issues that much more challenging having both v4 and v6 |
| [00:04:18] | sphery: | heh, well if it's not a priority for MS and Sony, why should it be a priority for me? :) |
| [00:04:20] | GreyFoxx: | spher: yes, it will be painful |
| [00:04:58] | sphery: | besides, Google has their nice public DNS servers... No public DNS servers on the IPv6 network (i.e. no direct IPv6 connections to Google nameservers for DNS) |
| [00:05:08] | GreyFoxx: | I'm not sure if my xbox or wii have any sort of v6 capablilities |
| [00:05:22] | sphery: | and I have a feeling my ISP doesn't offer them, either |
| [00:05:23] | GreyFoxx: | soher: Wait for IPv6 day |
| [00:05:41] | sphery: | you mean the day when we're forced to use it? |
| [00:05:48] | sphery: | that's my usual MO :) |
| [00:06:02] | GreyFoxx: | world ipv6 day is June 8th |
| [00:06:10] | iamlindoro: | 2036 |
| [00:06:20] | GreyFoxx: | when facebook, cisco, cnn, google, yahoo and so on all enable v6 on their main sites |
| [00:06:24] | sphery: | heh, yeah: http://www.ipv6day.org/ |
| [00:06:24] | GreyFoxx: | to see what breaks |
| [00:06:42] | GreyFoxx: | 2001:470:1c:442::2 . Feel free to use that for DNS if you really need a IPv6 reachable DNS server ;) |
| [00:06:43] | sphery: | google does have search available on their ipv6 network |
| [00:07:32] | GreyFoxx: | yes, but right now you choose ipv6.google.com, OR the regular v4 google.com onv6day they will return both A and AAAA records for google.com and your OS/browser will default to the v6 one if you have v6 connectivity |
| [00:07:35] | sphery: | heh, I don't /need/ it... just the whole, "I upgrade all my stuff to use it, but then I use the IPv4 side since that's what my ISP provides and all the services I need use" is strange |
| [00:07:48] | GreyFoxx: | which about 0.05% of users misconfigured windows PC's think it has |
| [00:07:50] | sphery: | If I wait, then maybe I can do setup stuff once and get closer to correct :) |
| [00:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | so there will be broken stuff that day |
| [00:08:16] | sphery: | heh |
| [00:09:11] | GreyFoxx: | firefox, thunderbird, and basically most stuff defaults to use the AAAA record if one is returned and you have a default v6 route setup |
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| [00:09:48] | skd5aner: | IPv4 is to SVN release numbers as IPv6 is to GIT SHA commit #s |
| [00:10:09] | GreyFoxx: | the git commit #'s give me a headache |
| [00:10:12] | skd5aner: | one, you can look at and understand, and the other is alphabet soup |
| [00:10:16] | kisak: | release numbers? |
| [00:10:26] | GreyFoxx: | I'm not looking forward to setting it up properly for commiting some patches |
| [00:10:28] | wagnerrp: | they can even both be shortened |
| [00:10:29] | skd5aner: | r24000 |
| [00:10:41] | kisak: | revision number? |
| [00:10:48] | skd5aner: | yes |
| [00:11:13] | sphery: | or changeset number |
| [00:11:39] | sphery: | ah, but you got it |
| [00:11:40] | sphery: | nvm |
| [00:11:52] | skd5aner: | what's the beirdobot mechanism for translating svn to git? |
| [00:12:00] | skd5aner: | thought it was r#? |
| [00:12:22] | skd5aner: | r1000 |
| [00:12:32] | skd5aner: | #1400 |
| [00:12:40] | skd5aner: | !help |
| [00:12:44] | skd5aner: | list |
| [00:12:53] | skd5aner: | help list |
| [00:12:55] | wagnerrp: | [1000] |
| [00:12:56] | MythLogBot: | SVN 1000: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/8db786de |
| [00:13:01] | skd5aner: | ah, thanks |
| [00:13:39] | sphery: | wagnerrp: what's up with annoying people using e-mail clients that don't know how to quote for replies? |
| [00:13:52] | wagnerrp: | no clue |
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| [00:22:04] | Beirdo: | [12345] |
| [00:22:04] | MythLogBot: | SVN 12345: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/commit/18d0b946 |
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| [00:22:34] | [R]: | thats the same combination on my luggage! |
| [00:23:07] | GreyFoxx: | and my ssh login! |
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| [00:24:23] | iamlindoro: | I'm a security expert. My password is my username, but then I ROT-26 it |
| [00:24:41] | [R]: | 26? lol |
| [00:25:06] | GreyFoxx: | iaml: I run into a lot of users who use that same technique of encryption ;) |
| [00:25:56] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [00:26:15] | darkdrgn2k: | :-P |
| [00:26:39] | darkdrgn2k: | i hope its not in the latin alphabet.. |
| [00:27:17] | ** iamlindoro watches the joke fly over darkdrgn2k's head ** | |
| [00:27:47] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [00:27:58] | wagnerrp: | darkdrgn2k: you know... the latin alphabet only has 23 characters |
| [00:28:15] | darkdrgn2k: | ... hmm so it does...... |
| [00:28:19] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, we drops xyz since who uses those anyway? |
| [00:28:43] | iamlindoro: | you mean who uses those anwa |
| [00:28:50] | iamlindoro: | or rather ou mean ;) |
| [00:29:26] | darkdrgn2k: | would use Drot13 anyway... |
| [00:29:31] | GreyFoxx: | sorry, I'm still using my old qwertY keyboard. My new one arrives on Monda |
| [00:29:33] | darkdrgn2k: | (souble rot 13) |
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| [00:32:27] | darkdrgn2k: | *sigh* i stuck my happauge NOVA-S in my master backend instead of the PVR150 |
| [00:32:36] | darkdrgn2k: | damit.. |
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| [00:33:05] | darkdrgn2k: | any one know how to assign a video for the cx88 driver? |
| [00:33:39] | [R]: | assign a video? |
| [00:33:57] | darkdrgn2k: | /dev/video |
| [00:34:07] | darkdrgn2k: | i alreayd got my hvr to take over 0 but the cx88 beats it too it |
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| [00:35:20] | wagnerrp: | darkdrgn2k: create a udev rule to force it to some higher value |
| [00:35:30] | wagnerrp: | or symlink it to a completely new naming scheme |
| [00:35:38] | darkdrgn2k: | *sigh* i gatat find that pvr150.... |
| [00:36:22] | wagnerrp: | i believe there is also some flag you can pass to the driver module as you load it |
| [00:36:38] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: yeh doesn seem that the cx88 has that .. |
| [00:36:49] | darkdrgn2k: | worst art is i cant get the svideo to even work |
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| [00:37:47] | _cal_: | getting this on mythweb..? !!NoTrans: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()!! |
| [00:38:08] | _cal_: | !!NoTrans: Cannot modify header information – headers already sent by (output started at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/errors.php:150)!! |
| [00:47:35] | kormoc: | _cal_, what are you doing? |
| [00:47:45] | ** kormoc curses the day he thought translating error messages made sense ** | |
| [00:48:02] | _cal_: | clicking on any program within the mythtv listings page |
| [00:48:10] | _cal_: | also the listings page is very slow to load |
| [00:48:15] | kormoc: | 0.24 or master? |
| [00:48:24] | sphery: | _cal_: and what version of mythtv? and is it -fixes with current fixes? |
| [00:48:27] | _cal_: | .24-fixes |
| [00:48:38] | sphery: | how recent? |
| [00:49:01] | _cal_: | checking |
| [00:49:17] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: yeah, stuartm dissuaded me from doing that in the bindings |
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| [00:49:42] | _cal_: | fixes/0.24 (v0.24-138-g14bfdc3) |
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| [00:50:41] | sphery: | hmm, ok, that should be recent enough |
| [00:51:04] | sphery: | Jan 31, specifically |
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| [00:51:34] | sphery: | FWIW, I /highly/ recommend updating to more recent if you ever use Live TV |
| [00:51:44] | sphery: | you'll want something from yesterday or today |
| [00:51:53] | _cal_: | ran mythdb optimize script which did not help |
| [00:52:18] | sphery: | actually, strike that--I recommend updating to yesterday's or today's 0.24-fixes, even if you don't use Live TV |
| [00:52:26] | sphery: | (I'm actually upating and I don't use Live TV) |
| [00:52:26] | _cal_: | yes i use livetv. |
| [00:52:38] | sphery: | there were some pretty major fixes this week |
| [00:52:43] | sphery: | though unrelated to your current |
| [00:53:02] | _cal_: | i like the sound of that ;) |
| [00:53:04] | sphery: | the problem with your current is that you're seeing an error that basically says, "Error creating error message" |
| [00:53:17] | _cal_: | how do i see the original error message |
| [00:53:17] | sphery: | so we have no clue what's actually happening |
| [00:53:36] | sphery: | maybe check the apache logs? |
| [00:53:41] | _cal_: | ok |
| [00:55:00] | _cal_: | i am now on 0.24-153-g6318d52 |
| [00:56:39] | sphery: | :( |
| [00:56:48] | sphery: | you'll want to update again, maybe tomorrow? |
| [00:57:05] | sphery: | that's literally only minutes before some of the most useful fixes went in |
| [00:57:05] | _cal_: | i take it that version is still too old ;) |
| [00:57:33] | sphery: | it will make live tv more reliable, but changes that come after that make live tv and playback startup fast |
| [00:58:07] | _cal_: | its what i got when i ran mythbuntu update manager |
| [00:58:22] | sphery: | yeah, I thought they'd have a newer version than that |
| [00:58:47] | sphery: | that one was from: 2011/02/08 07:36:25 -0800 |
| [00:58:56] | sphery: | so seems kind of old for a "daily" build |
| [00:59:19] | sphery: | but I don't know *buntu, so there may be more to it than I understnad |
| [01:00:03] | _cal_: | it pulls straight from mythtv-updates repository now, instead of autobuilds |
| [01:00:10] | _cal_: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/node/349 |
| [01:00:38] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [01:01:01] | sphery: | well, when they get a newer version up there, you may want to pull it |
| [01:01:39] | _cal_: | or I could try Git for the first time if I am antsy... |
| [01:02:40] | sphery: | heh, well, I wouldn't say it's worth that much effort |
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| [01:02:44] | waxhead: | how much is the .24 daily builds changing? |
| [01:02:49] | sphery: | you should have working Live TV, now |
| [01:02:50] | _cal_: | will it fix that jump program file buffer error? |
| [01:02:57] | sphery: | other updates only make playback startup faster |
| [01:03:03] | waxhead: | I've got mythbuntu and .24 daily installed... heaps of updates... |
| [01:03:04] | sphery: | (not channel changes--just playback startup) |
| [01:03:33] | waxhead: | speaking of which, I'm now mucking about with xbmc as a frontedn and it seems they aren't supporting 0.24 yet.. :( |
| [01:04:53] | _cal_: | wax darn i was about to try that too |
| [01:05:18] | _cal_: | are you using the plugin or just going to myth:// |
| [01:07:54] | _cal_: | sphery: lol. the update actually fixed the mythweb error. |
| [01:08:36] | sphery: | _cal_: heh, cool |
| [01:09:53] | _cal_: | sphery: so when you say latest daily your talking dev branch or what not? |
| [01:10:06] | sphery: | no, 0.24-fixes |
| [01:10:16] | _cal_: | ahh |
| [01:10:19] | sphery: | just need a version a few hours older than what you got |
| [01:10:24] | sphery: | will probably be up there before long |
| [01:10:31] | sphery: | I say just hold off for a bit |
| [01:10:36] | ** _cal_ looks for a howto for using git for latest daily. ** | |
| [01:10:39] | sphery: | you hve the most important live tv fixes, though |
| [01:10:49] | kisak: | skd5aner: I'm updating mythtv 0.24-fixes now, we'll see if it has improved over here |
| [01:10:49] | _cal_: | ahh. oay. |
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| [01:12:06] | _cal_: | my biggest annoyance right now is the durned 'error loading file buffer' when switching channels to HD channels |
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| [01:13:22] | sphery: | _cal_: that's what should be fixed |
| [01:13:45] | sphery: | unless yours is a slow capture card that takes many seconds to start recording |
| [01:13:50] | _cal_: | haha okay. can't test it right now as my HD tuner is recording smallfille. ;) |
| [01:13:59] | _cal_: | smallville that is |
| [01:14:13] | _cal_: | pcHDTV 5500 |
| [01:15:20] | _cal_: | which I suppose qualifies as slow, being an old card. |
| [01:15:28] | sphery: | no, that's not slow |
| [01:15:31] | sphery: | so you should be good |
| [01:15:41] | sphery: | HD-PVR taking 9s to start is slow |
| [01:15:55] | _cal_: | 9 seconds??!! |
| [01:15:57] | _cal_: | yowsa |
| [01:16:02] | sphery: | yeah :) |
| [01:16:36] | kisak: | it's worth it though (for now) |
| [01:18:01] | sphery: | yeah, if you have premium channels, and it's that or no mythtv, it's worth it |
| [01:18:56] | kisak: | well, 60% of my subscribed channels don't get a lock |
| [01:18:58] | _cal_: | what sucks is the ability to use cablecards on windows media center but not mythtv etc |
| [01:19:40] | _cal_: | would love to get scifi hd on mythtv. can only watch it live though. |
| [01:20:24] | sphery: | the cable company's "our way or no way" is exactly why I'm using OTA only and buying the cable-only shows on DVD, instead |
| [01:21:30] | kisak: | that's because cablecards make security through obscurity, if you release opensource code for cablecard, then it wouldn't be long until the service providers loose their control over what you can and can't watch on your subscription |
| [01:21:42] | _cal_: | why cant a signal be hijacked from the hdmi port of a cablebox? it's a digital signal afterall. |
| [01:22:40] | [R]: | _cal_: because it uses hdcp |
| [01:22:48] | [R]: | _cal_: and its an extremely lot amount of uncompressed data |
| [01:23:03] | sphery: | even if you can decrypt it, it's a gigabytes-per-second signal |
| [01:23:38] | _cal_: | this card has hdmi-in : http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/ |
| [01:24:12] | _cal_: | yeah just compress it before saving it to /myth/tv |
| [01:24:21] | _cal_: | ;) |
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| [01:25:21] | [R]: | _cal_: you mean encode it to mpeg in real time? |
| [01:26:32] | _cal_: | would it still need to be real time if your merely recording the show and not using livetv? |
| [01:26:32] | kisak: | _cal_: funny how they omit any mention to hdcp on that page and say "For legal reasons HDMI input is unable to capture from copy protected HDMI sources." |
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| [01:26:55] | kisak: | it's not compatible with any settop box via hdmi |
| [01:27:24] | _cal_: | kisak: hehe. yeah. actually not sure what hdcp is but must be an encryption standard for hdmi? |
| [01:27:41] | _cal_: | says its compatible with linux |
| [01:27:48] | _cal_: | so there must be linux drivers |
| [01:28:01] | [R]: | _cal_: except it says you can't capture from copy protected sources |
| [01:28:05] | [R]: | so it is pretty much irrelevant |
| [01:28:44] | [R]: | _cal_: and just because they claim there are drivers doesnt mean it works, and it works with myth |
| [01:29:09] | [R]: | _cal_: hdpvr is immensly easier than all of taht |
| [01:29:20] | _cal_: | yeah I would think linux drivers are a huge step forward though |
| [01:29:25] | sphery: | yep, right tool for the job |
| [01:29:37] | sphery: | hd-pvr is the way to go |
| [01:29:56] | _cal_: | you mean just get the cable-companies pvr that does hd/ |
| [01:30:26] | sphery: | and even if you avoid the digital->analog conversion by capturing HDMI signal, you still get the generational loss of lossy compression -> uncompressed -> lossy compression |
| [01:30:33] | [R]: | _cal_: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html |
| [01:30:43] | sphery: | so, really, capturing HDMI isn't useful as long as you can get Component output |
| [01:31:31] | _cal_: | wow |
| [01:32:05] | _cal_: | and this works on mythtv already? |
| [01:32:19] | sphery: | yep, has for a couple years |
| [01:33:28] | _cal_: | very cool! |
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| [01:42:06] | kisak: | hazzah, mythtv 0.24-fixes update complete |
| [01:43:01] | kisak: | the problem with some channels kicking the frontend out of livetv appears to be history |
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| [02:10:59] | kisak: | hmm ... not a good start to the update |
| [02:13:04] | kisak: | http://pastie.org/1554856 this has happened several times before with mythtv 0.24-fixes |
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| [02:14:22] | darkdrgn2k: | hmm any reason why when i goto recordings it gets stuck on loading |
| [02:14:26] | kisak: | straight from tuning to empty file |
| [02:18:26] | [R]: | darkdrgn2k: you broke something? |
| [02:18:55] | kisak: | any ideas about the dropped recording? |
| [02:20:17] | darkdrgn2k: | [r]: i left and came back LOL it was workign bfore |
| [02:20:57] | darkdrgn2k: | 2011-02–11 21:19:33.514 MythSocket(1c04a50:48): readStringList: Error, timed out after 30000 ms. |
| [02:20:57] | darkdrgn2k: | 2011-02–11 21:19:33.514 Connection to backend server lost |
| [02:22:08] | [R]: | try restatting the backend |
| [02:22:35] | darkdrgn2k: | did.. |
| [02:22:44] | [R]: | and the frontend? |
| [02:22:51] | darkdrgn2k: | yep |
| [02:22:55] | darkdrgn2k: | twice |
| [02:23:39] | [R]: | you musta broke something good |
| [02:23:45] | [R]: | whats in the backend log |
| [02:24:13] | darkdrgn2k: | [r]: nothing of interest |
| [02:24:21] | darkdrgn2k: | hmm ok |
| [02:24:31] | darkdrgn2k: | i removed the last recorded show from the database and now it works |
| [02:24:59] | darkdrgn2k: | http://pastebin.com/g129fiwq <- mysql select before i removed it |
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| [02:27:17] | darkdrgn2k: | wierd dont see anything odd about that entry |
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| [02:47:45] | MylesMan: | hey i had an idea about my focus issues i'ma run it buy you guys |
| [02:48:33] | MylesMan: | my comp tells the monitor to go on standby after X time |
| [02:48:41] | MylesMan: | could that be it |
| [02:48:43] | MylesMan: | ? |
| [02:49:08] | MylesMan: | now w/live tv running idk if it still does a standby |
| [02:49:54] | kisak: | MylesMan: what window manager do you use (if any) |
| [02:50:17] | MylesMan: | fluxbox |
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| [02:51:11] | MylesMan: | its random and happened in both 23 and 24 |
| [02:51:21] | MylesMan: | once each so far |
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| [02:57:57] | MylesMan: | kisak any ideas |
| [02:57:59] | MylesMan: | ? |
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| [03:20:39] | kisak: | MylesMan: I don't have any boxes with fluxbox on it |
| [03:21:17] | skd5aner: | kisak: could this be the cause of your issue from above – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/462382#462382 |
| [03:22:46] | skd5aner: | kisak: or – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . ound;#462506 |
| [03:22:54] | kisak: | skd5aner: context seems slightly off for the first link |
| [03:23:20] | skd5aner: | eh, just googling :) |
| [03:23:44] | kisak: | I do see those occasionally, but it doesn't prevent the backend from doing it's job |
| [03:23:59] | kisak: | there's a missing line in the log which is expected |
| [03:24:33] | skd5aner: | kisak: what are you seeing? |
| [03:24:46] | kisak: | TVRec(4): rec->GetPathname(): '/mnt/recordings#/6624_20110211210000.mpg' should be in the log, but it's not |
| [03:25:45] | kisak: | tuner 4–8 is a hdhr, I'm looking at updating the firmware |
| [03:25:52] | skd5aner: | TVRec(7): rec->GetPathname(): '/mnt/recordings3/6629_20110211210000.mpg' |
| [03:26:13] | kisak: | look carefully at what you just pasted |
| [03:26:24] | skd5aner: | uh huh? |
| [03:26:43] | kisak: | tuner seven, channel id 6629 |
| [03:26:46] | skd5aner: | yup |
| [03:26:59] | skd5aner: | Started recording: "CSI: NY":"Smooth Criminal": channel 6624 on cardid 4, sourceid 5 |
| [03:27:02] | kisak: | versus tuner 4, channel id 6624 |
| [03:27:04] | wagnerrp: | sphery: how is it you dont have a higher mortality rate in your state? |
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| [03:27:23] | wagnerrp: | http://gizmodo.com/#!5758403 |
| [03:28:06] | skd5aner: | kisak: I see, so somehow it's starting to record CSI, but then tuner 4 is no longer mentioned |
| [03:28:37] | kisak: | skd5aner: that's correct, it's like there's a gear with some teeth missing |
| [03:29:13] | skd5aner: | kisak – not sure if the firmware update will fix it, but probably wouldn't hurt... |
| [03:29:24] | skd5aner: | what version of firmware on the HDHR are you running now? |
| [03:29:42] | kisak: | 20100213 |
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| [03:30:32] | kisak: | I believe I've had simular trouble with shows coming from firewire though |
| [03:31:13] | skd5aner: | well, it's definitely beyond any experience I've seen... hrmmm |
| [03:31:39] | skd5aner: | hard to search for too :/ |
| [03:31:54] | kisak: | indeed, thus making it troublesome |
| [03:32:14] | skd5aner: | but it only does this on .24 and you didn't see this on .23? |
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| [03:32:42] | skd5aner: | what does your tuner status show at this time? |
| [03:32:49] | kisak: | skd5aner: this behavior is now to me since updating from 0.23.1 |
| [03:32:51] | skd5aner: | on the mbe http page or in mythweb? |
| [03:33:14] | gizmobay: | I'm having a problem that I can't figure out. If my system goes idle for a few days and then I try to start my TV the last viewed channel is suppose to start but it's giving me issues aas the channel just freezes. If I switch to another channel and then back to the other it works. Can someone help me trouble shoot this? Hre's the error in the BE log http://pastebin.com/k26ctiza. |
| [03:33:25] | skd5aner: | to clarify, does it show that tuner 4 and tuner 7 are both recording? |
| [03:33:57] | gizmobay: | I'm running 0.24 on Mythbuntu |
| [03:34:05] | gizmobay: | and the tuner is a PVR150 |
| [03:34:37] | kisak: | skd5aner: in the backend log snippet you see tuner 4 going dorment |
| [03:34:38] | skd5aner: | how can a PVR150 tune channel 104? unless you are using some kind of external source and channel changing script? |
| [03:34:43] | skd5aner: | gizmobay: ^ |
| [03:34:59] | kisak: | skd5aner: line 31 |
| [03:35:01] | gizmobay: | yes, I'm using a blaster |
| [03:35:08] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: cable goes up to channel 125 |
| [03:35:27] | skd5aner: | gizmobay: what input? svideo? |
| [03:35:44] | skd5aner: | or you using the tuner on the 150? |
| [03:36:15] | gizmobay: | svideo |
| [03:36:33] | gizmobay: | out of the cablebox into the pvr150 |
| [03:37:41] | gizmobay: | Is it a bug? |
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| [03:38:42] | gizmobay: | so if I try to record the last channel I watched. I get one frame for the whole show |
| [03:39:31] | kisak: | skd5aner: I just remembered, I cancelled the dud capture and fired up the channel via livetv, so I'd get to see it. normal behavior is for the tuner to stay reserved until the end of the timeslot and then take the same action as line 31, leaving the show as marked recorded and a missing file |
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| [03:39:39] | skd5aner: | gizmobay: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/337525#337525 ? – not sure if this is your case – honestly I have no idea personally |
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| [03:39:59] | skd5aner: | kisak: that makes more sense I suppose |
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| [03:42:08] | gizmobay: | okay thanks for looking. I don't know what it could be. Works fine right now. Go idle a few days and then it acts up. I don't understand. Guess I'll have to write a script to change the channel every morning |
| [03:42:09] | skd5aner: | gizmobay: did you run mythbackend with -v record |
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| [03:42:33] | gizmobay: | no I don't think so |
| [03:42:39] | skd5aner: | would be interesting to see if that gives more detail |
| [03:42:45] | skd5aner: | when trying to tune/record |
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| [03:44:16] | kisak: | skd5aner: come to think of it, I may have had the same trouble with 0.23.1, but I hadn't identified a trend or specifics back then, I was trying to lock down other issues since it was after a service provider switch and a complete rework of the capture devices |
| [03:44:59] | skd5aner: | are any of the other "issues" you were seeing with 0.23 resolved by the upgrade and are you seeing any other new issues with 0.24 that would force you to revert back? |
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| [03:45:41] | kisak: | hdhr + 2 pvr150's -> 2 firewire capture + a pvr150 kept for auxillary capture + hdhr |
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| [03:48:42] | kisak: | skd5aner: there's no heading back to 0.23.1 for me, since libbluray is too tasty to let go and the only major snag is the mythtranscoder deadlocking issues that occurs semi-regularly |
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| [03:48:57] | skd5aner: | heh |
| [03:49:13] | skd5aner: | what are you using mythtranscode for? |
| [03:49:28] | skd5aner: | saving space? |
| [03:49:36] | kisak: | I am trying |
| [03:49:46] | wagnerrp: | just buy more space |
| [03:49:49] | skd5aner: | if so – buying a bigger/adding a new hard drive will solve that problem :) |
| [03:50:21] | skd5aner: | not that everyone has funds to do that, but... :) |
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| [03:50:57] | skd5aner: | I think it's pretty uncommon these days for mythtv users to transcode recordings for space purposes |
| [03:50:58] | wagnerrp: | MythTV: Promoting the storage industry since 2002 |
| [03:51:08] | skd5aner: | 2TB drives are easily found for ~479 |
| [03:51:17] | skd5aner: | oops, $79 |
| [03:51:20] | kisak: | I don't care if mythtranscode fails on half the shows anyway, but going into an endless loop and spamming the log with Failed to decode frame. Position was: 0 and Couldn't open file abort.dat |
| [03:51:26] | skd5aner: | dang shift key |
| [03:51:29] | kisak: | that's painful |
| [03:51:50] | skd5aner: | kisak: actually – I've never used it for that purpose :) |
| [03:51:54] | skd5aner: | but, that would suck |
| [03:52:05] | MylesMan: | hey skd? |
| [03:52:09] | skd5aner: | I just wouldn't expect for it to get fixed as a priority |
| [03:52:11] | skd5aner: | yes? |
| [03:52:18] | MylesMan: | i was thinking |
| [03:52:41] | MylesMan: | about my usb tuner starting after the backend |
| [03:53:00] | kisak: | skd5aner: the good news is that it mays logrotate a godsend when 35GB of log compresses to 69MB |
| [03:53:29] | MylesMan: | what if i disable the upstart script and lauch the be w/an irexec via my 'mote |
| [03:53:29] | kisak: | s/mays/makes/ |
| [03:53:58] | skd5aner: | MylesMan: what OS/Distro? |
| [03:54:05] | MylesMan: | ubuntu |
| [03:54:40] | skd5aner: | Mythbuntu distro, or vanilla ubuntu with the mythtv packages installed, or vanilla ubuntu installed from source? |
| [03:55:04] | MylesMan: | vanilla w/myth ontop |
| [03:55:46] | skd5aner: | apt-get install mythtv or you downloaded, compiled, and installed (or other?) |
| [03:55:54] | skd5aner: | just curious how the upstart scripts were installed |
| [03:55:59] | skd5aner: | manually – or via package |
| [03:56:01] | MylesMan: | apt-get |
| [03:56:04] | skd5aner: | cool... |
| [03:56:19] | skd5aner: | Well, I would think that irexec would not be the ideal configuration |
| [03:56:25] | skd5aner: | sure, it could work... but |
| [03:56:33] | MylesMan: | but? |
| [03:56:45] | skd5aner: | what is your USB tuner? and how long does it usually take to load? |
| [03:57:13] | skd5aner: | as sphery mentioned earlier – the sleep is probably the easiest and should work 100% of the time (and keep things automated for you) |
| [03:57:21] | MylesMan: | HVR1950 and it loads after the be right after |
| [03:57:57] | MylesMan: | if i pastebin my upstart |
| [03:57:57] | skd5aner: | I mean, if you put a 10 second sleep in, you'd probably almost definitely be safe and 10 seconds isn't going to hurt you on boot |
| [03:58:28] | MylesMan: | if i pastebin my upstart can u show me where to put it |
| [03:58:30] | MylesMan: | ? |
| [03:59:27] | skd5aner: | sure |
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| [04:00:23] | MylesMan: | !pastebin |
| [04:00:40] | MylesMan: | whats the pastebin |
| [04:00:47] | MylesMan: | on the chnl |
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| [04:01:08] | skd5aner: | http://pastebin.com/ |
| [04:01:18] | MylesMan: | fnd it |
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| [04:03:16] | skd5aner: | MylesMan: I need to leave shortly, you going to post? |
| [04:03:34] | MylesMan: | yah |
| [04:05:12] | MylesMan: | http://mythtv.pastebin.com/nHvQ66E8 |
| [04:05:18] | MylesMan: | there u go |
| [04:05:33] | skd5aner: | line 11 |
| [04:05:35] | skd5aner: | sleep 10 |
| [04:05:42] | MylesMan: | stupid ctr+c wouldnt work |
| [04:06:00] | MylesMan: | thx |
| [04:06:51] | skd5aner: | MylesMan: actually, just a sec |
| [04:07:07] | MylesMan: | OK |
| [04:08:28] | skd5aner: | MylesMan: try this – http://mythtv.pastebin.com/cNWy1hr6 |
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| [04:10:19] | MylesMan: | whats the worst possible outcome here |
| [04:10:28] | skd5aner: | MBE doesn't start |
| [04:10:35] | skd5aner: | upstart script breaks |
| [04:10:37] | MylesMan: | ok |
| [04:10:45] | skd5aner: | you remove the 3 lines I added and you're back to where you started |
| [04:11:02] | skd5aner: | just noted, that mythbackend will take an extra 10 seconds before it starts |
| [04:11:14] | skd5aner: | change that 10 to another integer (seconds) if you want to raise or lower the sleep |
| [04:11:14] | MylesMan: | ok |
| [04:11:20] | MylesMan: | thx |
| [04:11:20] | skd5aner: | alright, I've got to go... |
| [04:11:30] | ** MylesMan waves ** | |
| [04:11:34] | skd5aner: | post here if it worked (or not) |
| [04:11:39] | skd5aner: | I'll look later |
| [04:11:39] | MylesMan: | ok |
| [04:11:44] | MylesMan: | will do |
| [04:11:49] | skd5aner: | include my name so it'll flag me |
| [04:12:20] | MylesMan: | how |
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| [04:12:38] | MylesMan: | just skd5aner then blah blah? |
| [04:13:01] | skd5aner: | yea |
| [04:13:30] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: blah blah |
| [04:13:32] | skd5aner: | that way I can easily find it in the hundreds of other lines that will show up |
| [04:13:45] | MylesMan: | ok |
| [04:13:48] | MylesMan: | thx |
| [04:13:50] | MylesMan: | bye |
| [04:13:56] | MylesMan: | rebooting |
| [04:13:58] | skd5aner: | unless wagnerrp or beirdobot play games with me and say my name on a 5 second interval until I return |
| [04:14:05] | MylesMan: | will post |
| [04:14:07] | MylesMan: | lol |
| [04:14:09] | skd5aner: | good luck |
| [04:14:12] | MylesMan: | thx |
| [04:14:14] | wagnerrp: | !trout skd5aner |
| [04:14:14] | ** MythLogBot slaps skd5aner with a trout on behalf of wagnerrp... ** | |
| [04:14:39] | skd5aner: | double whammy |
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| [04:22:37] | justdave: | hmm, so apparently ubuntu pushed a new version of lirc recently, which removed the keycode for the ENTER key from the hdpvr.conf file. gee, thanks |
| [04:23:34] | justdave: | (that's spoken rhetorically – I'm sure nobody on this channel is deserving of said sarcastic thanks ;) |
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| [04:24:40] | MylesMan: | skd5aner: didn't work trying 30 seconds |
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| [04:27:09] | justdave: | the one linked to off the mythtv wiki looks just like the one ubuntu's lirc package is including |
| [04:27:16] | justdave: | (on blushingpenguin) |
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| [04:28:56] | MylesMan: | skd5aner: 30s worked might cut it down to 27 |
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| [04:36:06] | justdave: | guess it works if I just comment out the enter key from the channel change script. :) |
| [04:36:21] | justdave: | just means it waits a couple seconds after the last digit before the channel changes |
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| [04:42:36] | Beirdo^2: | Good for drowning out crazies on the bus |
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| [05:22:44] | wagnerrp: | upnp video scanner removed? |
| [05:24:27] | sphery: | yay, UPnP scanner-ectomy is complete |
| [05:24:41] | sphery: | the patient looks to have pulled through the procedure |
| [05:25:01] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, yeah, that's just crazy (the ghost-riding guy--had to look up ghost-riding) |
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| [05:25:30] | sphery: | and, on the bright side, I accidentally found something extremely useful--seems if you middle-click a tab in Firefox's tab bar, it closes the tab |
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| [05:25:47] | wagnerrp: | yeah, reverse of middle clicking a link to create a tab |
| [05:26:28] | sphery: | wagnerrp: without the upnp scanner, it means upnp is using the same list of videos/metadata as MythVideo |
| [05:26:42] | sphery: | so, to update, just scan in mythvideo |
| [05:26:56] | sphery: | and once mythvideo puts auto-scanning in backend, ... |
| [05:27:30] | sphery: | so, knowing that the middle click tab works, I'm no longer so upset by their bone-headed decision to make the X to close tabs a moving targe |
| [05:27:45] | sphery: | target (i.e. each one you close moves the tabs, and the location of the X's) |
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| [05:35:03] | justdave: | looks like the new lirc has the between-keypress delay built into the keycode definitions now, so I can get rid of the sleep 0.3 between keypresses and it still works (and faster) |
| [05:35:44] | justdave: | (for hdpvr at least) |
| [05:37:20] | justdave: | nice to have channel-changing working again at least. wasn't fun to have my wife yelling and screaming because the movie she tried to record ended up recording the wrong channel. |
| [05:37:44] | justdave: | "when are you going to give up on this and just get a freaking Tivo?" :| |
| [05:38:48] | justdave: | that'll teach me not to test it after seeing an update to lirc come in |
| [05:42:25] | wagnerrp: | sphery: just a thought, silverlight works on OSX with full DRM support |
| [05:42:32] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend runs on OSX |
| [05:42:48] | wagnerrp: | and windows |
| [05:43:17] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if theres any way to set up silverlight in qtwebkit |
| [05:43:19] | sphery: | heh, cool |
| [05:43:31] | sphery: | but, to me, Windows and OSX are the same |
| [05:43:35] | sphery: | :) |
| [05:44:27] | sphery: | so guess it's not windows-only |
| [05:44:44] | sphery: | but still not GNU/Linux |
| [05:46:39] | sphery: | time for me to find out about the roaches |
| [05:47:13] | wagnerrp: | roaches? |
| [05:47:26] | wagnerrp: | you infested? or growing 'herbs' in your basement? |
| [05:47:27] | sphery: | Fringe |
| [05:47:31] | sphery: | heh |
| [05:48:17] | sphery: | ok, their blimps are annoyingly loud |
| [05:48:37] | wagnerrp: | ours are that loud |
| [05:49:18] | sphery: | they should all be quieter |
| [05:49:37] | wagnerrp: | quieter means bigger fans |
| [05:49:41] | wagnerrp: | bigger fans means heavier |
| [05:49:45] | wagnerrp: | which means less payload |
| [05:50:12] | wagnerrp: | gotham air three, back from saint louis? |
| [05:50:46] | sphery: | heh, missed that the first time |
| [05:50:59] | sphery: | but it's Gotham Air 3 /bound/ for St Louis |
| [05:51:05] | ** sphery has captions ** | |
| [05:51:06] | wagnerrp: | its still gotham air |
| [05:51:31] | ** wagnerrp wonders if the alternate universe has a batman ** | |
| [05:51:53] | sphery: | heh |
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| [05:52:13] | sphery: | and if DC comics sued the airline |
| [05:54:07] | wagnerrp: | you know, i wonder what would happen if you made a tube-shaped blimp |
| [05:54:13] | wagnerrp: | put a giant impeller in the center |
| [05:54:32] | sphery: | heh, cool |
| [05:54:35] | wagnerrp: | use the balloon as the fan duct |
| [05:54:56] | sphery: | would look good--even if only on TV/movies |
| [05:56:52] | sphery: | not the hollow tube, but... http://www.csiro.au/news/Mini-doughnut-blimp- . . . at-QCAT.html |
| [05:57:36] | sphery: | also not using a fan duct, but... |
| [05:58:29] | sphery: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TepADUdDEVg |
| [05:59:24] | sphery: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oZUEzRFlT0&NR=1 for the blimp in action |
| [05:59:28] | sphery: | that's very loud, too |
| [05:59:36] | wagnerrp: | not going to be good at anything over ~20–30mph |
| [05:59:59] | wagnerrp: | cylinders are terribly draggy |
| [06:00:01] | sphery: | definitely a large wind area |
| [06:00:29] | wagnerrp: | ooh, that even more because of the lip it has |
| [06:00:50] | wagnerrp: | but it does mean its flat packable |
| [06:02:09] | wagnerrp: | those are absolutely tiny motors |
| [06:02:26] | sphery: | heh, funny shaped one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lxSuuE9QDs&am . . . feature=fvwp |
| [06:02:45] | sphery: | like a lifting body |
| [06:04:09] | wagnerrp: | i dont know why they dont use hydrogen |
| [06:04:44] | sphery: | who they? Lockheed Martin? |
| [06:04:49] | sphery: | probably the stigma |
| [06:05:11] | wagnerrp: | anyone developing new airships |
| [06:06:08] | wagnerrp: | its like half the density of helium |
| [06:06:12] | wagnerrp: | and far more abundant |
| [06:06:38] | sphery: | yeah, and as long as you don't coat your blimp in rocket fuel, not much of a burning hazard |
| [06:06:38] | wagnerrp: | cheap stocks of helium are going to be depleted, in the not too distant future |
| [06:06:48] | wagnerrp: | hydrogen isnt a burning hazard |
| [06:07:04] | wagnerrp: | hydrogen with a significant supply of oxygen is a burning hazard |
| [06:07:12] | wagnerrp: | and only so long as your supply is sustained |
| [06:07:17] | sphery: | yeah, most of the cheap stocks of He are the US reserves--which they've decided to sell off/quit storage/collecting |
| [06:07:20] | wagnerrp: | once its consumed, the fire goes out |
| [06:08:03] | sphery: | right, but everyone thinks that the Hindenburg disaster was due to the hydrogen |
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| [06:08:14] | wagnerrp: | the hinderburg was only a problem because the skin was flammable too |
| [06:08:18] | sphery: | when it was most likely due to the construction material |
| [06:08:25] | sphery: | yeah, they coated the skin with rocket fuel |
| [06:09:03] | sphery: | Proponents of this theory point out that the coatings on the fabric contained both iron oxide and aluminum-impregnated cellulose acetate butyrate (CAB). These components remain potentially reactive even after fully setting. In fact, iron oxide and aluminum can be used as components of solid rocket fuel or thermite. |
| [06:09:03] | wagnerrp: | the skin caught fire, vented the hydrogen to the atmosphere, and the hydrogen caught fire and took the rest of it down |
| [06:09:08] | sphery: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster |
| [06:09:34] | sphery: | all it was lacking was oxidizer |
| [06:09:53] | wagnerrp: | so you have a non-combustive skin, capable of handling temperature |
| [06:10:05] | sphery: | yep |
| [06:10:45] | wagnerrp: | its at pressure, so youre not going to have oxidizers leaking in |
| [06:10:53] | wagnerrp: | youre only going to have hydrogen leaking out |
| [06:11:05] | wagnerrp: | so as long as your skin doesnt catch fire, youre golden |
| [06:11:31] | wagnerrp: | thats why the zeppelins could have such high load capacity compared to our current blimps |
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| [06:18:45] | ** wagnerrp thinks someone needs to make an airship with a pair of gas bags on either side of a center hanger ** | |
| [06:18:59] | wagnerrp: | and it should have a beak on the front that opens to let planes in and out |
| [06:20:34] | wagnerrp: | walternate is getting some lovin' |
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| [06:34:21] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so, what's up with other Astrid? |
| [06:34:47] | sphery: | why is she a human computer? any clues relating it to the other side? |
| [06:34:52] | sphery: | our side |
| [06:35:21] | wagnerrp: | is she? i thought it was the machine she works at |
| [06:35:22] | sphery: | or is that for some upcoming episode to answer |
| [06:35:40] | sphery: | seems to be her--she quotes statistics with and without the computer |
| [06:35:50] | sphery: | I think the computer is more for collecting/displaying the info |
| [06:35:57] | wagnerrp: | maybe shes a savant |
| [06:36:20] | sphery: | yeah, that would explain her personality |
| [06:36:28] | sphery: | just wondered if there's a tie/explanation |
| [06:38:50] | sphery: | gotta say, I think their bluetooth headsets (or tiny phones?) look very uncomfortable |
| [06:40:30] | xris: | NOTICE: MAILING LISTS ARE TEMPORARILY DOWN FOR A SERVER MOVE |
| [06:41:02] | ** sphery rations the 35 unread e-mails in his mythtv-users folder ** | |
| [06:41:20] | ** kormoc kicks xris for yelling ** | |
| [06:41:57] | xris: | kormoc: imho yelling appropriate in this case... so people don't yell at me for the mailing list being down. |
| [06:47:07] | wagnerrp: | down for file transfer? or just waiting for DNS to refresh? |
| [06:47:27] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh: "How could you NOT build support for Netflix (only the biggest player in streaming movies) into Myth?" |
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| [06:49:33] | wagnerrp: | mailing list back up? |
| [06:50:19] | wagnerrp: | (i just got a ticket email) |
| [06:51:10] | wagnerrp: | so i guess this is the move from the SD temp space back to our server? |
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| [07:30:13] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, Have you used Pylons or Pyramid? |
| [07:30:57] | ** wagnerrp knows not what either of those are ** | |
| [07:31:07] | kormoc: | Web frameworks for python |
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| [07:33:25] | xris: | wagnerrp: correct |
| [07:33:42] | xris: | mailing lists are coming back up slowly due to DNS TTLs, greylisting, and a few other things. |
| [07:33:49] | xris: | I think we're technically up now. |
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| [07:37:30] | wagnerrp: | so Mr. Sunshine looks promising |
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| [07:53:03] | wagnerrp: | wiki is down, cant hit the mysql server |
| [07:54:40] | kormoc: | xris is on that server |
| [07:55:14] | xris: | wagnerrp: checking |
| [07:55:31] | xris: | wagnerrp: works for me |
| [07:55:36] | xris: | check your dns. |
| [07:55:46] | wagnerrp: | works now, didnt two minutes ago |
| [07:55:55] | wagnerrp: | ooh |
| [07:56:00] | wagnerrp: | main page works |
| [07:56:05] | wagnerrp: | 'Special:RecentChanges' does not |
| [07:57:12] | wagnerrp: | none of the special page sdo |
| [07:57:17] | xris: | ah |
| [07:57:20] | wagnerrp: | are we using some sort of caching proxy?> |
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| [07:59:19] | xris: | mediawiki has filesystem caching |
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| [08:00:10] | xris: | updated mysql and it's having issues |
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| [08:01:25] | xris: | ah, hostname fix on the box caused mysql to get confused and fail to shut down. |
| [08:01:27] | xris: | fixed. |
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| [08:02:35] | wagnerrp: | why did this magically stop compiling |
| [08:03:05] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I really hope that MythMiner is using the Python bindings to do things like schedule new recordings |
| [08:03:54] | wagnerrp: | i couldnt tell you what this thing is using |
| [08:04:01] | wagnerrp: | .rmp and .par files? |
| [08:04:08] | sphery: | kormoc: thanks to your introducing me to it, I was able to quote a SMBC comic on list :) |
| [08:04:24] | sphery: | weird |
| [08:05:38] | sphery: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive ... http://www.quickpar.org.uk/ ? |
| [08:06:03] | wagnerrp: | parameter |
| [08:06:03] | kormoc: | sphery, nice |
| [08:06:10] | wagnerrp: | some XML file |
| [08:06:14] | sphery: | doubt it's http://www.remote-dba.net/teas_rem_util9.htm |
| [08:06:24] | wagnerrp: | theyre both XML files |
| [08:06:30] | wagnerrp: | and a script |
| [08:06:30] | sphery: | hmmm |
| [08:07:16] | sphery: | maybe something from that RapidAnalytics site thing? |
| [08:07:39] | wagnerrp: | it looks like this MythMiner.rmp is some XML configuration file that tells rapidminer how to pull information from mythweb |
| [08:07:53] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [08:08:07] | sphery: | so it's using MythWeb as the API to the backend/data? |
| [08:08:29] | wagnerrp: | apparently |
| [08:08:45] | wagnerrp: | well it is grabbing something out of SQL too |
| [08:08:50] | sphery: | though it seems ... yeah |
| [08:09:08] | wagnerrp: | maybe it uses mythweb for the scheduling list |
| [08:11:12] | sphery: | well, my main concern is that it doesn't just stick some data into the DB and call a mythbackend --resched |
| [08:11:44] | sphery: | I'll hold out hope that it's not doing that--and using something else (bindings or mythweb or ...) to interface |
| [08:12:01] | sphery: | I'm probably better off not knowing if it's doing it the ugly way |
| [08:12:01] | wagnerrp: | 'Add the recordings to the MythTV record table with a low priority' |
| [08:12:12] | sphery: | no... now I know |
| [08:12:57] | sphery: | after all, direct DB editing is likely to be the most stable API for a program, ever |
| [08:13:05] | sphery: | I mean, what is the most current? SQL 2003? |
| [08:13:12] | sphery: | that's like 7 years that nothing has changed |
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| [08:13:38] | sphery: | oh, no... there's a sql 2008, now |
| [08:14:07] | sphery: | so it seems SQL is only constant for about 5 years now |
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| [08:25:40] | Beirdo: | ugh |
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| [08:26:09] | wagnerrp: | hehe... http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2150#comic |
| [08:38:32] | wagnerrp: | any suggestions on why this wont compile? |
| [08:38:38] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.pastebin.com/cu8QSXbL |
| [08:39:12] | wagnerrp: | ah.. nevermind, was looking at the wrong folder |
| [08:39:23] | wagnerrp: | why is this building out of order... |
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| [09:13:29] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: using -j on the make line? |
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| [09:54:20] | ikevin: | hi |
| [09:55:53] | ikevin: | i've an apliance where i want to run myth frontend on, so i don't have a sound card on, actualy i use pulse to send the sound over the network with vlc |
| [09:56:07] | ikevin: | can i setup my pulse server into myth? |
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| [10:05:09] | ikevin: | ok, found, setting "PulseAudio:<ip>" on sound settings has worked, so now the sound is really slow |
| [10:05:30] | ikevin: | any idea on how can i get normal sound? |
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| [11:08:18] | justinh: | heh that doesn't sound like the best advised strategy |
| [11:09:30] | justinh: | btw what do you mean 'slow' ? Like er.. it lags behind the video by several seconds? That's a big feature of PA |
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| [14:22:43] | andreax: | Hmm. An idea, how i can force mythtv to rebuild the preview thumbnails in mythweb for my old recordings? I reinstalled my mythtv box and get only thumbnails of new recordings, not for the old ones i already got before reinstall... |
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| [16:52:09] | jarle: | andreax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8954677&postcount=5 |
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| [16:52:52] | jarle: | andreax: and more mythweb related: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/330483 |
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| [16:57:50] | andreax: | Thankyou, will try that out... I ran into that thing already a while before, but i forgot how to fix that... |
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| [17:49:37] | trumee: | How good is vaapi support in mythtv. I wanted to use it on joggler. |
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| [17:51:47] | wagnerrp: | its not |
| [17:52:15] | wagnerrp: | there is a ticket and patches available on trac |
| [17:52:25] | wagnerrp: | but they probably dont apply any more |
| [17:52:59] | trumee: | wagnerrp: right |
| [17:53:06] | wagnerrp: | the dev who was working on them was only ever able to get VAAPI working on nvidia hardware reliably |
| [17:53:18] | wagnerrp: | and nvidia hardware already has the more capable VDPAU... so why bother |
| [17:53:27] | trumee: | wagnerrp: *nod* |
| [17:53:40] | wagnerrp: | intel hardware wasnt quite there, and amd hardware wasnt even at the starting line |
| [17:54:08] | wagnerrp: | make that drivers, the hardware itself is probably just fine, but the drivers were unreliable |
| [17:54:14] | trumee: | wagnerrp: mythfrontend doesnt start fullscreen on my joggler. is there any flag i could pass to mythfrontend for it to go fullscreen? |
| [17:55:10] | wagnerrp: | the only reason mythfrontend might not start fullscreen is because you have some window manager artificially restricting the usable screen space |
| [17:56:15] | trumee: | wagnerrp: guess it something in gnome then. |
| [17:56:45] | wagnerrp: | i would say compiz... but i didnt think the GMA500 had enough power for that kind of stuff |
| [17:59:02] | trumee: | wagnerrp: i will get rid of compiz if it exists. thanks |
| [18:00:31] | trumee: | wagnerrp: yup that was it. |
| [18:03:54] | trumee: | wagnerrp: ok, another question. I guess i can use mplayer-vaapi for the videos. Only issue is that all my videos are in Groups now |
| [18:04:23] | trumee: | wagnerrp: can i setup nfs and use mplayer for the videos, although they are in Groups? |
| [18:04:56] | wagnerrp: | no, because mplayer does not understand myth:// URIs |
| [18:06:03] | trumee: | wagnerrp: alright. no go then. |
| [18:10:48] | laga: | i take it the mythweb video stuff does not work with SGs? i mean the mythvideo interface |
| [18:11:05] | wagnerrp: | the mythweb video interface is largely broken at the moment |
| [18:11:23] | laga: | ah, okay |
| [18:11:24] | laga: | thanks |
| [18:11:52] | laga: | same applies to the music interface? |
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| [18:12:09] | wagnerrp: | music interface should work fine, with or without file access |
| [18:12:15] | laga: | nice, thanks |
| [18:13:09] | wagnerrp: | the music interface passes data through the backend web server, intended for UPnP |
| [18:13:28] | wagnerrp: | although as of last night, the video interface should be capable of doing the same thing, maybe |
| [18:13:31] | laga: | wagnerrp: are you still maintaining the python bindings? they support read() over mythproto, right? |
| [18:14:00] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the python FileTransfer class is compatible with normal python file objects |
| [18:14:18] | henkpoley: | I wonder why AMD doesn't sponsor some of the VA-API support in open source projects. If I were to build a HTPC with myth now I'd usually end up with an ATI GPU on-board + some nvidia card for the actual output. |
| [18:14:43] | wagnerrp: | henkpoley: as mentioned, VAAPI support in mythtv is written |
| [18:14:52] | wagnerrp: | but was never cleaned up and committed |
| [18:15:02] | wagnerrp: | because the ATI drivers just arent reliable |
| [18:15:16] | wagnerrp: | no point sponsoring open source projects until they clean up their own mess |
| [18:16:00] | laga: | wagnerrp: so it should be reasonable easy to write a video player in python to act as a frontend, i guess. would be nice to have a frontend on android :) |
| [18:16:57] | wagnerrp: | well, you would first have to write a Python interpreter in Java |
| [18:17:16] | laga: | jython or google script support |
| [18:17:30] | wagnerrp: | you may want to check out mythdroid, it has some form of playback support |
| [18:17:39] | laga: | oh, nice. i got that |
| [18:17:52] | henkpoley: | And XBMC / MythBox already has some of the myth protocol in Python |
| [18:18:20] | wagnerrp: | mythbox has halfway decent support of mythprotocol, but it is only used for information retrieval |
| [18:18:30] | wagnerrp: | xbmc is used for playback, and it does bad things |
| [18:18:57] | laga: | "MythBox". let me google that. |
| [18:19:08] | wagnerrp: | mythbox is largely defunct |
| [18:19:30] | wagnerrp: | theyre replacing it with some other native C implementation |
| [18:19:35] | laga: | ah, okay |
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| [18:25:52] | trumee: | wagnerrp: how about Nokia N900. it there any way to get mythtv going on that? |
| [18:26:17] | trumee: | wagnerrp: it has python. |
| [18:26:30] | wagnerrp: | you can stream through mythweb |
| [18:26:52] | laga: | wait for nokia to release windows phone 7 for the n900 ;) |
| [18:27:22] | ** trumee thows an elephant to laga ** | |
| [18:27:36] | laga: | (muffled trumpet sound) |
| [18:28:26] | trumee: | Atleast there will be a meego device from Nokia as a saving grace. |
| [18:29:17] | trumee: | Sad state of affairs though. |
| [18:29:27] | laga: | yeah |
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| [18:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hey guys |
| [18:53:11] | darkdrgn2k: | im trying to get the second blaster of my mceusb working |
| [18:53:22] | darkdrgn2k: | when i send a signal it sends to the first one by default |
| [18:53:27] | darkdrgn2k: | if i do SET_TRANSMITTERS 2 it will send to 2 |
| [18:53:31] | darkdrgn2k: | but i cant get it back to 1 |
| [18:53:35] | darkdrgn2k: | SET_TRANSMITTERS 1 still sends to 2 |
| [18:53:43] | wagnerrp: | try '0' |
| [18:54:10] | darkdrgn2k: | i did it doesnt like 0 |
| [18:54:21] | darkdrgn2k: | irsend: command failed: SET_TRANSMITTERS 0 |
| [18:54:21] | darkdrgn2k: | irsend: invalid argument |
| [18:54:55] | darkdrgn2k: | i had to remove the module and re add it |
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| [19:31:20] | trumee: | is it possible to set a keystroke for "Scan for changes" in mythvideo? |
| [19:32:35] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [19:32:58] | wagnerrp: | although i didnt know that was something that had to occur so often as to need an easier way to do it |
| [19:33:31] | wagnerrp: | with upnp being better integrated with mythvideo in 0.25 |
| [19:33:43] | wagnerrp: | 0.25 will be required to have a background video scanner |
| [19:33:54] | wagnerrp: | so this wont be a problem at all in future version |
| [19:34:35] | trumee: | wagnerrp: can this be programmed in an manner. Myth_video_scan.py is too slow. |
| [19:35:35] | trumee: | wagnerrp: it is painful on joggler since it doesnt have any keyboard |
| [19:36:17] | trumee: | wagnerrp: i was hoping for some script which i can stick in crond |
| [19:36:46] | trumee: | wagnerrp: atm, i have to use do a telnet interface into joggler to do a scan |
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| [19:37:32] | trumee: | wagnerrp: if the 'telnet' commands could be setup in a script, that would be useful too |
| [19:38:24] | trumee: | wagnerrp: not sure if i could use netcat/ncat to do this. |
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| [19:43:35] | trumee: | Guess, i can live with netcat for now. |
| [19:44:23] | wagnerrp: | sorry, called away |
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| [19:44:37] | wagnerrp: | the myth_video_scan.py runs about 1/4 the speed of the internal scanner |
| [19:44:42] | wagnerrp: | last i tested |
| [19:45:01] | wagnerrp: | but i dont really see what the matter is, considering thats something you would stuff in cron and forget about |
| [19:45:05] | wagnerrp: | who cares how long it takes |
| [19:45:41] | trumee: | wagnerrp: hmm. with a big library probably it matters |
| [19:45:59] | wagnerrp: | for things like the joggler, some form of gesture support would be great |
| [19:46:11] | trumee: | wagnerrp: only issue with netcat in cron is that it would disrupt livetv/movie |
| [19:46:12] | wagnerrp: | mythtv 'has' gesture support |
| [19:46:27] | wagnerrp: | if you make gestures on the screen, they will register in the logs |
| [19:46:36] | wagnerrp: | but they are bugged, and arent connected to anything anyway |
| [19:46:57] | trumee: | wagnerrp: that is another possibility. i do have easystroke setuo for touchscreen |
| [19:47:21] | wagnerrp: | one of the users (Azel phur) rigged up mythtv on a joggler using some external utility that comes with ubuntu tablet edition |
| [19:47:37] | trumee: | wagnerrp: yes, he used easystroke for that. |
| [19:47:46] | wagnerrp: | what are you talking about with netcat? |
| [19:48:09] | trumee: | wagnerrp: netcat localhost 6546 <videocommands.txt |
| [19:48:28] | trumee: | wagnerrp: cat videocommands.txt |
| [19:48:29] | wagnerrp: | what for? |
| [19:48:31] | trumee: | jump mythvideo |
| [19:48:33] | trumee: | key m |
| [19:48:35] | trumee: | key enter |
| [19:48:36] | trumee: | quit |
| [19:49:04] | wagnerrp: | why wouldnt you be using myth_video_scan.py on the backend in a cron? |
| [19:49:05] | trumee: | wagnerrp: i could stick that netcat command in cron |
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| [19:49:42] | trumee: | wagnerrp: last time i tried it took a very long time. my patience ran out |
| [19:50:09] | wagnerrp: | the only reason it would take a very long time is if you have a bunch of new of moved files |
| [19:50:24] | wagnerrp: | it has to hash each new file, and match it against the existing files |
| [19:51:01] | trumee: | wagnerrp: is it python which is dragging it down? |
| [19:51:45] | wagnerrp: | there are several reasons why its costly |
| [19:52:13] | wagnerrp: | to perform a scan, you have to pull the existing list (takes a couple seconds), branch through the file system for all existing files (takes a couple seconds) |
| [19:52:25] | wagnerrp: | match up the two tables to find and remove exiting entries |
| [19:52:34] | wagnerrp: | hash all the new files to check for moved files |
| [19:52:43] | wagnerrp: | delete the old, create the new |
| [19:53:01] | wagnerrp: | the part thats hard on python is the matching |
| [19:53:09] | [R]: | that's what she said |
| [19:53:10] | wagnerrp: | its simply not going to be nearly as fast as C++ |
| [19:53:53] | wagnerrp: | it results in the 'scanStorageGroup' command taking about 4x longer in python, than the internal scanner |
| [19:54:07] | wagnerrp: | myth_video_scan also performs a metadata search |
| [19:54:16] | wagnerrp: | which will take an additional few seconds for each new file |
| [19:54:35] | wagnerrp: | the internal scanner returns immediately and does the metadata grab in the background, and only in 0.24 |
| [19:54:41] | wagnerrp: | 0.23 did no bulk grab at all |
| [19:56:00] | trumee: | wagnerrp: Netcat is looking a quick way to do it. Is there any way to find out if Livetv or a Video is being watched? |
| [19:56:28] | wagnerrp: | who cares about quick |
| [19:56:36] | wagnerrp: | you run it in the background |
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| [19:56:54] | wagnerrp: | the only time you would care about quick is if you add files and immediately want access to it on your frontend |
| [19:57:06] | trumee: | wagnerrp: yes, that is my usecase |
| [19:57:16] | wagnerrp: | in which case, just use some gesture program to hit 'm' |
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| [19:57:42] | wagnerrp: | the backend video scanner will function in exactly the same manner |
| [19:57:54] | wagnerrp: | being called automatically at some interval |
| [19:58:15] | wagnerrp: | you will still have to do 'm'->'scan new videos' if you ever want an instant response |
| [19:58:35] | wagnerrp: | if you are already watching livetv or a video, you dont care how long it takes for a scan to run |
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| [19:58:51] | wagnerrp: | as long as its done before the current video finishes |
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| [19:58:56] | trumee: | wagnerrp: ok, i will setup a gesture. |
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| [20:13:37] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Do you know if someone set Robert K up with special privs on the wiki? Seems he should have some for his HOWTO project. |
| [20:14:39] | wagnerrp: | yes, hes an admin |
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| [20:24:32] | sphery: | cool, thanks |
| [20:28:42] | wagnerrp: | (hes been an admin much longer than i have) |
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| [20:34:00] | sphery: | wagnerrp: any chance your translation/interpretation skills can make sense out of http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/471696#471696 |
| [20:34:09] | sphery: | is he saying that using EIT on only one card fixes the problem? |
| [20:34:27] | sphery: | at the top it sounds like he says it's not, but at the bottom it sounds like he says it is |
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| [20:36:31] | wagnerrp: | looks like hes saying theres a problem with the scheduler where it doesnt seize the tuner away from EIT grabbing |
| [20:36:57] | sphery: | dup of http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8251 ? |
| [20:36:58] | wagnerrp: | but the problem only presents itself when all tuners are in use doing EIT scanning |
| [20:37:21] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt appear hes using analog at all |
| [20:37:35] | sphery: | right, but multirec uses inputgroups |
| [20:37:47] | wagnerrp: | could be |
| [20:38:05] | sphery: | OK, I'll just comment on the ticket and ref the other |
| [20:38:54] | wagnerrp: | i guess it just doesnt present itself when hes got two other free tuners |
| [20:39:05] | sphery: | makes sense |
| [20:39:19] | sphery: | I'll let some EIT guy, like stuarta, make the final decision |
| [20:43:25] | wagnerrp: | sphery: seems at some point, my scanner broke |
| [20:43:35] | sphery: | scanner? |
| [20:43:39] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo scanner |
| [20:43:45] | sphery: | hmmm |
| [20:43:49] | sphery: | how so? |
| [20:44:00] | wagnerrp: | normally, i would just junk it all together, considering its now replaced by a single backend call |
| [20:44:11] | wagnerrp: | but apparently its exposing some strange problem in the database code |
| [20:44:51] | sphery: | oh, you mean the python bindings/script scanner, not the one in mythvideo? |
| [20:45:14] | sphery: | got any failure info? |
| [20:45:14] | wagnerrp: | right |
| [20:45:35] | wagnerrp: | best i can tell, im dropping the database connection somehow |
| [20:46:14] | sphery: | ah, so not directly related to the mythvideo db schema or anything? |
| [20:46:21] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [20:46:51] | wagnerrp: | plus it exposes some other issue with my ORM code |
| [20:47:10] | wagnerrp: | where if it doesnt get sane data from the database, it should be raising a fault |
| [20:48:20] | sphery: | cool--problems that help improve code are always good :) |
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| [20:50:59] | wagnerrp: | been too long since i stared at this stuff, i dont remember how any of it works |
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| [20:51:24] | sphery: | heh, so I'm not the only one who does that |
| [20:56:19] | wagnerrp: | whats that database call to query current connections? |
| [20:56:42] | wagnerrp: | processlist |
| [20:56:45] | sphery: | yeah |
| [20:56:48] | sphery: | show processlist |
| [20:57:11] | sphery: | can do it in a mysql client, even--doesn't have to be the same process or connection |
| [20:57:18] | sphery: | as long as it's the same user or root |
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| [21:02:07] | Beirdo: | oy |
| [21:02:20] | Beirdo: | there is NO way I'm buying a bike today |
| [21:02:30] | Beirdo: | those winds feel like about 40mph |
| [21:02:36] | wagnerrp: | seems a problem with my reference counting somehow |
| [21:02:52] | laga: | Beirdo: commuter bike? |
| [21:02:53] | wagnerrp: | database connections are not thread safe in python |
| [21:03:05] | wagnerrp: | so i spawn a new connection any time a new thread wants to access the database |
| [21:03:25] | wagnerrp: | i default to two connections, but it looks like one is caught doing something |
| [21:03:44] | wagnerrp: | and i guess the rapid-fire connect/disconnect caused by this call is causing problems |
| [21:03:49] | wagnerrp: | ... but it shouldnt be |
| [21:03:56] | wagnerrp: | there should be no database access |
| [21:04:02] | wagnerrp: | just one big pull and done |
| [21:04:23] | Beirdo: | laga: mountain bike, but for commuting in city, yes ;) |
| [21:04:33] | Beirdo: | but just too windy to be biking today |
| [21:06:38] | laga: | Beirdo: nice. have fun :) |
| [21:06:43] | laga: | Beirdo: and don't neglect the trails |
| [21:06:53] | Beirdo: | meh. screw the trails :) |
| [21:06:55] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:07:22] | sphery: | ooh, you got one! |
| [21:07:22] | Beirdo: | I'll probably hit them eventually, but my main use will be work->home->work |
| [21:07:25] | sphery: | congrats |
| [21:07:27] | Beirdo: | not yet |
| [21:07:29] | Beirdo: | tomorrow |
| [21:07:37] | Beirdo: | it's like 40mph winds out today |
| [21:07:51] | sphery: | ooh, sorry for my premature congratulations |
| [21:07:55] | Beirdo: | not gonna be biking home in that, thanks. I'll wuss out :) |
| [21:08:02] | Beirdo: | no prob :) |
| [21:08:16] | sphery: | heh, 40mph winds could be fun--if you're going with the wind |
| [21:08:22] | kormoc: | meh, it's only 30 mph with gusts to 40 |
| [21:08:27] | Beirdo: | cross-wind... |
| [21:08:33] | laga: | Beirdo: http://imgur.com/zunmC – here's what we got for my dad :) |
| [21:08:33] | sphery: | that would be tough |
| [21:08:43] | Beirdo: | hehe, see, my estimate wasn't far off :) |
| [21:08:51] | laga: | hum, that picture is crappy, actually ;) |
| [21:08:57] | kormoc: | sphery, and it goes from none to full blast as you go from behind a building to not |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | nice though |
| [21:09:22] | kormoc: | what is this? Some FLOSS Developer get healthy month? ;) |
| [21:09:57] | Beirdo: | kinda considering: http://www.rei.com/product/810436 |
| [21:10:03] | sphery: | yeah, winds and big city buildings aren't good |
| [21:10:18] | sphery: | I'm sure some of the gusts around the building corners are even higher than 40mph |
| [21:10:19] | Beirdo: | well, I do need some exercise in my sedentary life :) |
| [21:10:20] | wagnerrp: | that time it works... verbose logging must have slowed it down enough it didnt cause problems |
| [21:10:22] | laga: | twenty-niner.. nice |
| [21:10:34] | Beirdo: | yeah, the shear winds will knock ya over |
| [21:11:05] | Beirdo: | we shall see, but something along those lines :) |
| [21:11:32] | laga: | Beirdo: nice bike. not too keen on cheap forks, though, but i'm a bit of a snob probably ;) |
| [21:11:35] | laga: | Beirdo: get a good lock |
| [21:11:44] | Beirdo: | the problem is... $1k bike... and you know it will be $400+ in accessories |
| [21:11:52] | Beirdo: | yeah, no kidding :) |
| [21:11:59] | kormoc: | might as well get a full carbon fiber frame for that price |
| [21:12:15] | laga: | kormoc: yeah. just the frame, though. |
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| [21:12:30] | Beirdo: | between lights and helmet and paniers and bike computer... |
| [21:12:35] | laga: | i doubt you can get a carbon MTB with quality components for 1000USD. |
| [21:12:45] | Beirdo: | and locks and tire pump... |
| [21:12:50] | laga: | Beirdo: perhaps you can get a deal on that stuff. my bike dealers usually do that |
| [21:13:17] | Beirdo: | yeah, we'll see :) |
| [21:13:24] | Beirdo: | but it's worth it, really |
| [21:13:30] | Beirdo: | and oh yeah.. new pedals |
| [21:13:32] | laga: | no doubt |
| [21:13:53] | Beirdo: | I want SPD/rat-trap combo pedals... and biking shoes |
| [21:13:55] | laga: | algeria has just shut down net access. yay. |
| [21:14:18] | laga: | Beirdo: i bought biking shoes last fall. working great for me :) |
| [21:14:52] | Beirdo: | we do have some nice hills here, being clipped in will be a big advantage |
| [21:18:42] | Beirdo: | will take some getting used to (again)... I had that on my bike in Ottawa... a few years back now. |
| [21:27:06] | Beirdo: | I was actually looking forward to going to buy today, but just too windy for it. |
| [21:28:48] | laga: | monday. |
| [21:29:05] | kormoc: | take a cab back and toss it in the trunk |
| [21:29:14] | kormoc: | gives you time to assemble, etc |
| [21:29:25] | Beirdo: | heh. REI assembles |
| [21:30:04] | Beirdo: | I don't want to be assembling, to be honest. Not on a bike of that cost... if it were a $200 bike... sure |
| [21:30:15] | Beirdo: | but tomorrow/Monday will do |
| [21:32:29] | Beirdo: | I used to bike 10km to work each day.. .then 10km home |
| [21:32:52] | Beirdo: | I'm a fair amount closer to work now, but still, I think it will do me good |
| [21:32:58] | Beirdo: | and make more space for beer :) |
| [21:33:48] | kormoc: | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localne . . . suit08m.html |
| [21:34:53] | Beirdo: | yeah. carbon fiber fail. |
| [21:34:56] | Beirdo: | yuck |
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| [21:41:13] | stevieman: | I just added a Huludesktop menu item to my mythtv and moved watch TV and Watch Hulu up the menu tree and now when I try to access 'Media Library', 'Information Center' and 'Utilities / Setup' I get messages about not being able to find the corresponding xml file |
| [21:41:41] | stevieman: | Also I copied the mainmenu.xml file from /usr/share to .mythtv |
| [21:41:54] | stevieman: | as per the wiki |
| [21:42:46] | [R]: | you need all the xml files |
| [21:42:49] | [R]: | hence the error |
| [21:43:08] | stevieman: | I tried to change the 'Media Library' file location to /usr/share/library.xml but that didn't work |
| [21:43:37] | stevieman: | but I guess it wouldn't work if thats the wrong directory |
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| [21:44:49] | stevieman: | oh great, I don't remember which theme I'm using now |
| [21:45:06] | stevieman: | and I can't find out because setup menu isnt working :) |
| [21:46:28] | StevenR: | hmm. Is there a way I can set a default clock skew? My NTP-set clock doesn't seem to match the listings times exactly |
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| [22:00:46] | cleith: | Hello |
| [22:00:58] | cleith: | Anyone here good with Image Gallery? |
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| [22:12:49] | kisak: | StevenR: it may be your clocksource |
| [22:13:50] | kisak: | for example, I know that 0.gentoo.pool.ntp.org isn't accurate enough for my setup |
| [22:14:37] | [R]: | that isn't a server |
| [22:14:42] | [R]: | thats 3 ips |
| [22:15:55] | qwerty_: | Does anyone know what I need to configure the ir port on a hauppauge 2250 as for lirc? |
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| [22:25:11] | StevenR: | kisak: well, I use multiple clock sources |
| [22:25:27] | StevenR: | kisak: so NTPD can pick the "best" based on its picking algo. |
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| [23:01:50] | MylesMan: | hi all |
| [23:02:12] | MylesMan: | has anyone ever used used CC? |
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| [23:02:18] | [R]: | cc? |
| [23:02:32] | MylesMan: | closed captioning |
| [23:03:00] | MylesMan: | and if so how the hell did u get it working |
| [23:03:25] | MylesMan: | lol |
| [23:03:56] | [R]: | just turned it on from the menu |
| [23:04:01] | [R]: | but you have to be capturing somethign that has them |
| [23:04:07] | [R]: | and you have to be cpaturing with something that can capture them |
| [23:04:45] | MylesMan: | i have turned on |
| [23:05:04] | GreyFoxx: | holy crap..... my cellphone supports ipv6 . I wasn't expecting that |
| [23:05:09] | [R]: | how did you turn it on? |
| [23:05:12] | MylesMan: | i'm using an hvr-1950 |
| [23:05:14] | GreyFoxx: | I didn't |
| [23:05:18] | [R]: | not you |
| [23:05:21] | MylesMan: | via the menu |
| [23:05:23] | GreyFoxx: | oh, heheh |
| [23:05:30] | MylesMan: | in frontend |
| [23:05:30] | [R]: | MylesMan: oh so descriptive... |
| [23:05:54] | MylesMan: | and i also setup the vbi on the be |
| [23:06:10] | MylesMan: | to ntsc |
| [23:06:11] | [R]: | your using the digital or analog? |
| [23:06:20] | [R]: | the drier might not work with the analog |
| [23:06:39] | MylesMan: | digital or analogue what |
| [23:06:46] | [R]: | channel |
| [23:06:56] | MylesMan: | its all digi |
| [23:07:03] | MylesMan: | satellite |
| [23:07:06] | MylesMan: | TV |
| [23:07:14] | [R]: | 1950 doesnt capture satellite... |
| [23:07:26] | MylesMan: | via RCA it does |
| [23:07:35] | [R]: | i ont think captions pass over that |
| [23:07:42] | [R]: | thats not digital |
| [23:07:43] | [R]: | its analog |
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| [23:08:00] | MylesMan: | explain this then |
| [23:08:17] | MylesMan: | if i turn on the CC on my STB |
| [23:08:42] | MylesMan: | the card picks it up in the stream |
| [23:08:48] | [R]: | its putting the cc on the video |
| [23:08:52] | [R]: | not in the video |
| [23:08:57] | MylesMan: | ah |
| [23:09:03] | MylesMan: | fair enough |
| [23:09:44] | MylesMan: | but when the stb was direct to my tv the tvs captioning worked |
| [23:09:57] | MylesMan: | the built in stb was too small |
| [23:10:07] | MylesMan: | so i used the tv one |
| [23:10:26] | [R]: | "direct" to the tv? |
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| [23:11:01] | MylesMan: | meaning RCA cables in the back of tv from stb? yes |
| [23:11:28] | [R]: | the driver might not be getting the vbi data |
| [23:11:49] | MylesMan: | i used the firmware extractor |
| [23:11:59] | MylesMan: | for ubuntu |
| [23:12:17] | [R]: | and? |
| [23:12:31] | MylesMan: | and have the card listed as an IVTV in my backend |
| [23:13:01] | MylesMan: | im just ensuring proper settings |
| [23:13:19] | MylesMan: | should i mayhaps update the driver? |
| [23:13:52] | MylesMan: | b/c it was the driver of the disc |
| [23:14:00] | MylesMan: | maybe its old? |
| [23:17:45] | MylesMan: | and i also did the ivtv.conf thing listed on the wiki |
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| [23:21:18] | MylesMan: | oh i'm using pvrusb2 driver |
| [23:22:20] | MylesMan: | not ivtv (or maybe they share something idk) and pvrusb2 doesnt support vbi w/my card |
| [23:23:48] | MylesMan: | ttyal |
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| [23:46:49] | sphery: | hmmm... compiling and installing unstable/development on my production system by accident (but, fortunately, noticing /before/ I started it and upgraded the database), then compiling and installing 0.24-fixes took longer than my simple upgrade was supposed to take. Guess I'll mow the lawn tomorrow. |
| [23:47:09] | sphery: | Don't have batteries for my flashlight, so tonight won't work well. |
| [23:47:24] | sphery: | lesson learned... Don't forget: git checkout fixes/0.24 |
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| [23:52:14] | skd5aner: | I'm doing my occasional scan of the users ML archive, and am astonished at how a conversation from 3 days ago about Windows MCE has 151 replies |
| [23:53:09] | sphery: | skd5aner: heh, yeah, if you read much of it, you'll get an idea of why |
| [23:53:14] | sphery: | or, should I say, "who" |
| [23:53:17] | skd5aner: | on page 2 |
| [23:53:35] | sphery: | the OP replies to every single reply in the thread |
| [23:53:37] | skd5aner: | I usually wouldn't even read it, but for some reason I want to see where this thread goes |
| [23:53:41] | skd5aner: | lol |
| [23:53:43] | sphery: | which is nice--proves he's reading them |
| [23:54:03] | sphery: | but it makes for a long thread--especially when his replies spawn other replies |
| [23:54:20] | skd5aner: | and, honestly, I wanted to see what people's current opinions of MCE were – I've not used it since the original XP edition |
| [23:54:57] | sphery: | I really think he'd be best off just using Win MCE--he's happy with Windows in general, he claims a lot of experience with it, and he wants to do things that are impossible in GNU/Linux (CableCard for premium channels, NetFlix streaming, ...) |
| [23:55:01] | skd5aner: | and I'm envious they can use cablecard tuners :/ |
| [23:55:32] | skd5aner: | yes... I know "we" can too... but I mean, really get the full benefit of them |
| [23:56:08] | skd5aner: | I have an extra HDPVR sitting in the box because I don't want to pay $10/mo more for another STB to record off of :P |
| [23:58:02] | sphery: | right, cablecard for premium channels, not just copy-freely |
| [23:58:15] | skd5aner: | I do find it interesting the kkhupal is weighing in for a potential switch to MCE |
| [23:58:51] | skd5aner: | I'm on TWC – nothing is marked copy-freely for me – so they're next to worthless in my situation |
| [23:59:23] | sphery: | skd5aner: yeah, that caught a lot of us by surprise--especially since he's a potential committer (though he hasn't been doing so lately) |
| [23:59:30] | sphery: | guess life got in the way of his hobby |
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