| Sunday, January 2nd, 2011, 00:01 UTC | ||
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| [00:01:30] | paSserBy_: | hello |
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| [00:03:43] | clever: | pyther: probly |
| [00:05:31] | pyther: | kinda what I figured but didn't see anything |
| [00:05:40] | paSserBy_: | hi guys, I've been using plex (os x) and want to buy an asus eee 1501P for my living room. Can anyone compare myth tv and plex for me? |
| [00:07:34] | balor: | If I stop the mythtv-setup scan half way through and Finish, will it save the channels it has so-far scanned? |
| [00:15:19] | pyther: | Is it possible for my tuner not to be capable of EIT data? |
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| [00:25:26] | wagnerrp: | paSserBy_: they are not comparable |
| [00:25:41] | pyther: | wagnerrp: it doesn't appear as if mythbackend is looitg at the EIT data |
| [00:26:06] | pyther: | wagnerrp: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/312943/ |
| [00:26:12] | wagnerrp: | pyther: you should see entries in the logs about five minutes after your tuners go active that it is scanning EIT |
| [00:26:25] | pyther: | EITScanner (1): Started passive scan |
| [00:26:32] | wagnerrp: | if not, you have it set up for active (passive?) mode, where it only pulls EIT data when you are already recording that channel |
| [00:26:56] | pyther: | so I want to turn off active EIT scanning? |
| [00:27:11] | wagnerrp: | never actually used it |
| [00:27:58] | paSserBy_: | wagnerrp: Thanks, it looks like MythTV may be a little too deep for what I'm after. |
| [00:28:04] | paSserBy_: | I'm looking at xbmc atm |
| [00:28:28] | wagnerrp: | paSserBy_: mythtv, freevo, vdr... these are DVRs |
| [00:28:35] | wagnerrp: | intended for recording and playing back tv |
| [00:28:48] | wagnerrp: | xbmc, boxee, plex... these are just video players |
| [00:28:54] | paSserBy_: | so there's room for overlap with something like xbmc? |
| [00:29:01] | wagnerrp: | they are intended for different purposes |
| [00:29:05] | wagnerrp: | thus, they are not comparable |
| [00:29:12] | paSserBy_: | i see |
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| [00:29:39] | wagnerrp: | if you intend to use a tuner card, plex wont cut it |
| [00:29:58] | wagnerrp: | if you intend to only watch videos already on your system, mythtv is a bit overly complex |
| [00:30:24] | pyther: | wagnerrp: is it possible that my tuner card just can't do EIT/EPG? |
| [00:30:30] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [00:31:07] | pyther: | Hmm... I turned of active scanning |
| [00:31:23] | pyther: | cat /var/log/mythbackend.log | grep -i EIT is null |
| [00:31:39] | wagnerrp: | it takes several minutes before the backend will start scanning on its own |
| [00:32:02] | pyther: | but shouldn't it scan once I tune into a channel? |
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| [00:34:11] | pyther: | wagnerrp: what is several minutes? 5, 10, 30, 60? |
| [00:34:19] | wagnerrp: | five, i thought |
| [00:36:48] | pyther: | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/312945/ |
| [00:37:43] | pyther: | nothing in the logs |
| [00:37:57] | iamlindoro: | Did you import your channels with a channels.conf? |
| [00:38:05] | pyther: | iamlindoro: no |
| [00:38:15] | pyther: | I even deleted all the transports and rescanned for channels using myth |
| [00:40:03] | dserban: | How do I get the frontend to re-do previewgen on each recording? I've got the b-frame problem that -fixes fixed. |
| [00:46:15] | pyther: | wagnerrp: I'm at a lost |
| [00:46:36] | pyther: | Be nice to get it working, since there is one channel that schedulesdirect doesn't have yet |
| [00:48:45] | wagnerrp: | youre in north america trying to use EIT? |
| [00:48:51] | pyther: | yes |
| [00:48:58] | wagnerrp: | just file a ticket with SD, and let they push it up towards TMS |
| [00:49:14] | pyther: | is EIT unreliable in NA? |
| [00:50:00] | wagnerrp: | more just worthless |
| [00:50:06] | wagnerrp: | youre not going to get more than a couple hours |
| [00:51:04] | pyther: | I figured something was better than nothing |
| [00:51:21] | pyther: | oh well I'll file a ticket with schedule direct but their upstream provider may not have any data yet |
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| [00:53:49] | wagnerrp: | youre paying for that upstream provider to get that data |
| [00:54:18] | pyther: | ahh I guess they do, at least yahoo has it |
| [00:54:20] | iamlindoro: | Wait, and this is cable you're hoping to get EIT from? |
| [00:54:25] | iamlindoro: | ei, not OTA? |
| [00:54:27] | iamlindoro: | er ie |
| [00:54:31] | pyther: | no its OTA |
| [00:54:41] | iamlindoro: | ok |
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| [01:01:48] | pyther: | We got http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_TV |
| [01:01:54] | pyther: | It launched today |
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| [01:03:33] | wagnerrp: | wait wait... |
| [01:03:48] | wagnerrp: | Tribune doesnt provide guide data for their own television station? |
| [01:03:51] | wagnerrp: | the irony... |
| [01:04:18] | dserban: | Is it obvious or impossible? |
| [01:04:27] | mgering: | I'm trying to get my hauppauge 2250 working — it seems I need to dl stuff from kernellabs.com — Is this site online? |
| [01:04:29] | pyther: | wagnerrp: yahoo as guide data, maybe it hasn't updated on schedules direct because of the weekend? |
| [01:05:02] | wagnerrp: | mgering: the needed drivers are available in the linuxtv driver repository |
| [01:05:17] | paSserBy_: | wagnerrp: Thanks for your insight |
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| [01:07:28] | mgering: | wagnerrp: Thanks. I'll look there. The drivers I need are to download the firmware into the 2250 card. |
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| [01:10:09] | mgering: | wagnerrp: THANKS! |
| [01:19:15] | ComradeHaz`: | Hi all. Just installed a new frontend. Had some problems connecting to servers database but have fixed that now I believe. However, when I run mythfrontend it tells me I need to run mythtv-setup or the backend because the database schema is out of date but I do not have the application mythtv-setup at my disposal. What am I supposed to do |
| [01:19:29] | wagnerrp: | run mythtv-setup |
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| [01:21:19] | ComradeHaz`: | Um, did you even read what I said?! |
| [01:21:29] | wagnerrp: | yep, and its flat wrong |
| [01:21:37] | dserban: | re-generate preview snapshots. how? |
| [01:22:02] | wagnerrp: | dserban: just delete all the '.png' files from your recording folders |
| [01:22:04] | iamlindoro: | dserban, Delete the old previews |
| [01:22:06] | wagnerrp: | they will be generated as needed |
| [01:22:24] | ComradeHaz`: | â°â[:)] %mythtv-setup |
| [01:22:24] | ComradeHaz`: | zsh: command not found: mythtv-setup |
| [01:22:46] | dserban: | Hmm, ok I did that already. maybe my 'find -iname '*mpg.png' -exec |
| [01:22:50] | dserban: | grr whatever.. lol |
| [01:22:56] | dserban: | thanks, that's what I thought. |
| [01:23:03] | wagnerrp: | ComradeHaz`: mythtv-setup is the configuration utility for mythbackend |
| [01:23:09] | wagnerrp: | you cannot have set up mythtv without it |
| [01:23:10] | iamlindoro: | ComradeHaz`, Then you have installed some broken packages. MythTV as we provide it is incapable of not installing mythtv-setup |
| [01:23:21] | iamlindoro: | If you don't have it, you need to take it up with your packager |
| [01:23:22] | wagnerrp: | furthermore, you cannot install mythfrontend without getting mythbackend and mythtv-setup |
| [01:23:39] | ComradeHaz`: | Um, why? |
| [01:23:51] | wagnerrp: | because thats how the Makefile is setup up |
| [01:23:51] | iamlindoro: | because mythtv is installed as a suite, not as a pick-and-choose |
| [01:23:56] | ComradeHaz`: | I believe I did under debian. |
| [01:24:04] | wagnerrp: | it does not allow independent installs of the various binaries |
| [01:24:08] | iamlindoro: | Then your debian packages are broken, and you shoudl speak to your packager |
| [01:24:14] | wagnerrp: | for that matter why would you /want/ to install one without the other? |
| [01:24:15] | ComradeHaz`: | Oh? |
| [01:24:17] | iamlindoro: | Who decided they were smarter than the makefile |
| [01:24:21] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup is all of a couple megs |
| [01:24:30] | wagnerrp: | what worth is it in stripping it out of an install |
| [01:24:34] | iamlindoro: | and cut and split myth to suit their desires-- and this kind of thing is precisely why we don't allow that |
| [01:24:43] | wagnerrp: | unless youre trying to do something like stuff mythtv into a 256MB flash card |
| [01:24:45] | iamlindoro: | because it produces a broken install |
| [01:24:55] | wagnerrp: | in which case... just freaking buy a bigger card |
| [01:25:08] | ComradeHaz`: | Um, sure. I was just following some guides online |
| [01:25:18] | iamlindoro: | Nobody is blaming you-- we're blaming you packager |
| [01:25:32] | iamlindoro: | so install the rest of mythtv, or ask you packager how to do so with your packages |
| [01:25:47] | iamlindoro: | but the fact is, we are unable to troubleshoot a half-installed myth, as that's not how we provide it |
| [01:26:25] | wagnerrp: | besides, if you are running mythfrontend, you must have a running mythbackend somewhere |
| [01:26:26] | ComradeHaz`: | Hmm, do you provide a repository? |
| [01:26:39] | ComradeHaz`: | sure, wagnerrp, on another machine |
| [01:26:39] | dserban: | ok does the frontend cache the pngs somewhere? |
| [01:26:43] | wagnerrp: | and no sensible packager would ever create something with mythbackend, but without mythtv-setup |
| [01:26:51] | iamlindoro: | we provide a source code repository, of course |
| [01:26:57] | iamlindoro: | but that's all we provide-- source |
| [01:27:00] | wagnerrp: | so run mythtv-setup on that other machine to update your database |
| [01:27:04] | wagnerrp: | problem solved |
| [01:27:05] | ComradeHaz`: | As I understood myth the idea of it was that the front and backends were discreet so one runs one backend and multiple frontends |
| [01:27:22] | wagnerrp: | one runs multiple backends and multiple frontends, but only one database |
| [01:27:30] | iamlindoro: | ComradeHaz`, one runs as many backends as one pleases-- but the software is to be installed everywhere |
| [01:27:36] | Crys: | mythvideo is causing segfaults: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/2036242 (mythtv 0.24 on Ubuntu 10.10 X86_64) |
| [01:28:03] | wagnerrp: | meaning you can have any backend on any machine update the database |
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| [01:29:09] | wagnerrp: | ComradeHaz`: that also means that if you have updated one of your frontends, without simultaneously updating all of your other frontends and backends |
| [01:29:14] | wagnerrp: | you /will/ have problems |
| [01:29:36] | ComradeHaz`: | Hmm. that makes me sad. |
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| [01:29:47] | wagnerrp: | that is the same way it has always been |
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| [01:30:17] | ComradeHaz`: | It means I have a_ missunderstood, and b) have a bit of an issue as trying to install the backend packages on Debian unstable is throwing a shit load of dependancy issues |
| [01:30:59] | wagnerrp: | please watch the language |
| [01:31:10] | ComradeHaz`: | Sorry :) |
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| [01:32:23] | ComradeHaz`: | So when I run mythtv-set, how do I make it upgrade the DB? |
| [01:32:58] | wagnerrp: | it will only function with one version of the database |
| [01:33:03] | wagnerrp: | so if it detects an old one |
| [01:33:08] | wagnerrp: | it will automatically update to match |
| [01:33:15] | ComradeHaz`: | Hmm, odd. |
| [01:33:33] | ComradeHaz`: | That means there is a discrepancy between the two machines |
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| [01:34:23] | ComradeHaz`: | Ahh well, a job for another day |
| [01:34:37] | ComradeHaz`: | Perhaps I will pop by and bug you tomorrow if that's OK! :) |
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| [01:35:28] | ComradeHaz`: | For now, it is 1:34 AM so I think I should go get some sleep before I get in trouble with She Who Must Be Obeyed. |
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| [02:34:12] | FinnTux: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/454883 <- looks exactly like the same problem I have with livetv |
| [02:38:04] | FinnTux: | failed ringbuffer file is always 0B. could it be that backend tried to read the file before there is any data, fails and then quits livetv. |
| [02:38:21] | wagnerrp: | what would it be trying to read from? |
| [02:38:44] | wagnerrp: | any tuner card should inform the backend through the proper API call when data is available to start pulling |
| [02:39:01] | wagnerrp: | there actually was such an issue with the HDPVR early on |
| [02:40:58] | FinnTux: | wagnerrp, let me remind you I'm using IPTV recorder. different channels are multicasted to my home network |
| [02:42:11] | FinnTux: | I could exactly figure out how the system works... |
| [02:42:33] | FinnTux: | couldn't* arrgghh |
| [02:45:23] | FinnTux: | activate livetv -> backend selects suitable tuner -> ringbuffer file is opened -> tuner writes data -> data from the file is fed to frontend ? |
| [02:45:37] | wagnerrp: | the poster in that thread wasnt using iptv |
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| [02:45:54] | wagnerrp: | they were using the iptv tuner to access streams they were generating on their own through vlc |
| [02:45:57] | FinnTux: | "I forgot to write one thing. |
| [02:45:57] | FinnTux: | For IPTV, I use UDP unicast created by the VLC program. " |
| [02:46:10] | wagnerrp: | i.e.... not iptv |
| [02:46:39] | wagnerrp: | as i understand it, the iptv tuner cannot use unicast traffic |
| [02:46:42] | wagnerrp: | multicast only |
| [02:46:52] | FinnTux: | whats the difference? isn't it same kind of transport stream over udp multicast? |
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| [02:46:56] | wagnerrp: | as no sensible iptv system will be using anything but multicast |
| [02:47:20] | FinnTux: | ah right. well, mine is multicast |
| [02:47:27] | FinnTux: | poster had unicast |
| [02:47:32] | GreyFoxx: | Can someone please remind me where in the forntend settings the "always stream from backend" setting is ? :) |
| [02:47:36] | wagnerrp: | the way you handle the sockets is different |
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| [02:48:28] | FinnTux: | would be easier to understand if it failed every time but it is pretty random. |
| [02:48:56] | FinnTux: | sometimes I can change channel several times in a row. sometimes even initial tuning fails |
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| [02:50:00] | FinnTux: | and after started succesfully it works ok |
| [02:52:02] | wagnerrp: | why am i picking up new episodes of V? |
| [02:52:22] | wagnerrp: | more specifically, what was going on back in may that they were not recorded in the first place |
| [02:53:55] | blud: | i'm having a problem where no videos show up even though i know i have videos in my folder |
| [02:54:06] | wagnerrp: | have you scanned? |
| [02:54:23] | blud: | where is that located? i couldnt find it |
| [02:54:54] | nodecam: | Menu -> Scan for changes from within MythVideo |
| [02:54:56] | wagnerrp: | in mythvideo, hit 'm' |
| [02:55:27] | blud: | well im using mythbuntu, and it loads up mythtv |
| [02:55:38] | blud: | so i dunno about mythvideo |
| [02:55:47] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo is a plugin in mythtv |
| [02:55:56] | wagnerrp: | 'media library' --> 'watch videos' |
| [02:56:02] | wagnerrp: | the area that you say has no videos |
| [02:56:07] | blud: | ohh ok |
| [02:56:39] | FinnTux: | what does 't/T' mean in those status letters? |
| [02:57:02] | blud: | thanks that worked |
| [02:57:34] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.21 |
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| [02:58:43] | FinnTux: | wagnerrp, I found that but there is no t |
| [02:59:00] | wagnerrp: | is that the same area youre seeing 't'? |
| [02:59:08] | FinnTux: | yes |
| [02:59:47] | FinnTux: | usually there 'tL' when livetv fails |
| [03:02:06] | k-man: | is there anything special i should look for when buying a new LCD/Plasma tv? |
| [03:02:34] | blud: | i have the ati remote wonder, and it works, and the volume buttons do control the volume of videos in mythtv, but out in mythbuntu they don't control the volume, |
| [03:02:47] | k-man: | someone here mentioned once that the built in anti aliasing is often not as good as myth's, so having the option to turn it off on the tv is useful |
| [03:02:51] | Perdignus: | When sitting at the MythTV menu, or blank X desktop, I get feedback from the Alsa SPDIF connection, when I play something the feedback goes away. Anyone know of a trick to prevent the feedback when I should be getting silence? |
| [03:02:54] | blud: | how would i go about getting some kind of master volume control, like would i bind 2 other buttons for that? |
| [03:03:47] | blud: | like if i was watching youtube and wanted to control the master volume |
| [03:05:37] | blud: | or just, more broadly speaking what do you guys do about this |
| [03:06:07] | FinnTux: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/464293 <- another one having similar problem. |
| [03:06:40] | k-man: | blud: i just use the volume on my amp, i never adjust the volume on the pc |
| [03:07:13] | k-man: | blud: i use a universal remote where the volume keys are programmed to the amp's volime |
| [03:07:16] | k-man: | volume |
| [03:07:26] | blud: | ah yeah... logical. My setup is pretty lame though, I just have pc speakers coming out of the computer |
| [03:07:32] | blud: | no amp |
| [03:08:07] | k-man: | blud: i suspect you could bind the volume keys in lirc to a master volume command |
| [03:08:24] | blud: | i had to uninstall lirc to get my ati remote wonder working |
| [03:08:30] | blud: | i use ati_remote |
| [03:08:39] | blud: | and if lirc is installed then mythtv crashes sometimes |
| [03:08:43] | k-man: | blud: like this maybe: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_aumix.htm |
| [03:09:30] | k-man: | i don't know what ati_remote is, sorry |
| [03:09:41] | blud: | its a module |
| [03:10:16] | k-man: | according to this page: http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati_remote.php it is now part of lirc |
| [03:10:56] | blud: | i did this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ATI_Remote_Wonder# . . . without_lirc (the top bit) |
| [03:11:04] | blud: | which it seems i had to do to get it working |
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| [03:11:32] | blud: | so i think theres still a way for me to map some buttons and stuff |
| [03:11:43] | blud: | i just unfortunately its quite over my head |
| [03:12:10] | k-man: | blud: what distro? |
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| [03:12:16] | k-man: | blud: what kernel version? |
| [03:12:18] | blud: | mythbuntu 10.10 |
| [03:13:19] | k-man: | blub, do a "uname -a" and paste the result |
| [03:15:24] | blud: | Linux 2.6.35-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 01:41:57 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| [03:16:25] | blud: | i mean, my remote works fine, i just need to figure out how to somehow control the system volume (or i could do it with my keyboard if i figured that out) |
| [03:16:42] | Perdignus: | OK, I think I got rid of the feedback by muting everything in alsamixer |
| [03:17:12] | blud: | i have an old logitech dinovo keyboard that has volume up volume down and mute keys but they dont do anything |
| [03:17:21] | k-man: | blud: imho, using ati_remote might be fine for the short term but in the long term you need to use LIRC as that is what everyone uses and what is supported |
| [03:17:35] | blud: | yeah but my remote doesnt work with lirc |
| [03:17:40] | blud: | at least i was unable to make it work |
| [03:18:40] | blud: | and the only documentation on how to make this remote work in 10.10 is that documentation that says to use ati_remote |
| [03:19:07] | blud: | i mean, i agree with you though. But its not broke so im not gonna fix that aspect |
| [03:20:37] | blud: | do you think theres anyway for me to get a remote buttons or keyboard keys to control the system volume? |
| [03:20:42] | blud: | or only with lirc? |
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| [03:24:14] | k-man: | buy an mce remote control and ditch the ati one? |
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| [03:24:32] | blud: | :D |
| [03:24:35] | k-man: | blud: there may be a way with at_remote, but i know nothing about it |
| [03:24:46] | blud: | this looks like it would do it: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12159.html |
| [03:24:53] | blud: | but its talking about gnome and i have xfce |
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| [03:27:13] | k-man: | blud: sorry, i'm a bit of a do it myself guy |
| [03:28:24] | blud: | dont be sorry im just throwing out questions to see if anybody knows |
| [03:28:38] | blud: | looks like i will try this "xev" program thats supposed to see keypress codes or something |
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| [03:35:54] | Beirdo: | I need to buy some winter sandals |
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| [03:40:38] | nodecam: | winter sandals? that'll get you frostbite around these parts |
| [03:41:01] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [03:41:18] | Beirdo: | I wore sandals all winter in Toronto, even on -30C days |
| [03:41:28] | Beirdo: | the trick is nice wool socks |
| [03:42:16] | Beirdo: | and that's not even a fashion faux-pas here in Seattle :) |
| [03:43:23] | Beirdo: | yay, my compile finished |
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| [03:47:05] | nodecam: | my feet are cold just thinking about that |
| [03:47:15] | nodecam: | but then I used to sell Sorels for a living :) |
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| [03:53:25] | wagnerrp: | -30C days? thats about a frigid as ive ever experienced |
| [03:54:13] | wagnerrp: | i think its gotten down to -35C here once in my lifetime |
| [03:54:33] | wagnerrp: | and -40 once that ive ever heard of |
| [03:54:56] | Beirdo: | I've been out in -40C about 10–15 times in my life, I think |
| [03:55:00] | Beirdo: | nasty cold |
| [03:55:15] | Beirdo: | which is also -40F :) |
| [03:55:35] | Led-Hed: | hey Beirdo havent heard from you in quite a while |
| [03:55:43] | Led-Hed: | Happy New Year |
| [03:56:06] | Beirdo: | Happy new year for sure |
| [03:56:49] | blud: | i doubt you walked around downtown toronto in the winter in sandals :p |
| [03:56:49] | Led-Hed: | You still in Puerto Rico? |
| [03:56:54] | blud: | slush puddles etc.. |
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| [03:57:59] | nodecam: | It was -55 or something ridiculous like that last year here... |
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| [03:58:15] | nodecam: | (Saskatoon) |
| [04:00:46] | Beirdo: | Saskatoon is the middle of nowheree |
| [04:00:51] | Beirdo: | Led-Hed: nope. Seattle |
| [04:01:25] | Led-Hed: | Cool. How you like it? |
| [04:02:29] | Beirdo: | I like it here. |
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| [04:08:11] | nodecam: | Yup, definitely the middle of nowhere. |
| [04:08:20] | nodecam: | but I like it here |
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| [04:14:50] | Beirdo: | If I were to live that far north, I think I'd do Edmonton |
| [04:14:54] | Beirdo: | might as well |
| [04:16:53] | nodecam: | Edmonton isn't a very nice city |
| [04:17:05] | nodecam: | I say that having just spend Christmas there |
| [04:17:31] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:17:33] | nodecam: | It feels too "industrial" |
| [04:17:40] | Beirdo: | it's a city :) |
| [04:17:56] | nodecam: | Not really – Calgary is a city, and it doesn't feel like Edmonton |
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| [04:18:19] | nodecam: | there's no trees anywhere in Edmonton, very little green space |
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| [04:19:06] | nodecam: | could be just the areas that I've been in, but I'd way rather be in Calgary than Edmonton |
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| [04:20:39] | Beirdo: | hehe, my friends in Edmonton would beat you up for that |
| [04:25:37] | dserban: | k so just to confirm. On the backend, or where the storage groups are defined. If I run find -iname '*.png' -exec rm {} \; I should be good to go for preview images? My frontend seems to have cached everything... |
| [04:26:07] | nodecam: | I don't doubt it...pretty intense rivalry |
| [04:26:20] | dserban: | Why? They're both holes. |
| [04:26:36] | nodecam: | true enough :) |
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| [04:31:54] | wagnerrp: | dserban: why wouldnt you just run 'rm *.png'? |
| [04:32:30] | dserban: | recursive through 18 different drives ... |
| [04:32:32] | dserban: | and mounts |
| [04:39:22] | nodecam: | anyone here built the frontend for osx before? |
| [04:39:44] | nodecam: | I'm using osx-packager.pl from git, but it tries to pull from svn still?!? |
| [04:40:09] | nodecam: | I'd just use the binaries but I'm still on 10.5, and the 10.6 binaries insta-crash |
| [04:40:26] | wagnerrp: | you have 18 different folders defined for your recording storage? |
| [04:45:37] | nodecam: | Beirdo: Looks like that backport didn't solve the problem with compiling on gentoo :( |
| [04:46:11] | nodecam: | I still get the same QA Notice error |
| [04:57:03] | eyeoh: | Hi, I'm having this issue with audio playback only at the moment; but am having trouble working out whether I've already updated or not: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/465536 |
| [04:57:27] | eyeoh: | MythTV Version : v0.24-90-g3cf32e8 fixes/0.24 |
| [04:58:05] | eyeoh: | I'm new to git and everything, of course. |
| [05:00:16] | eyeoh: | Oh look, library api says 0.24.20101129–1 which would indicate that commit 3cf32e89b6cad9f915bda1820ecc0b94fd6f0cdb isn't in it since that has a date of Mon Dec 20 22:19:59 2010 +1100 yeah? (Fix audio-only playback) |
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| [05:02:49] | eyeoh: | Now trying to find out how to update |
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| [05:15:17] | iamlindoro: | library API is only bumped then the API is bumped, not on every commit |
| [05:16:14] | iamlindoro: | and the release API is almost never bumped-- so basically, use revision are your yardstick |
| [05:16:24] | iamlindoro: | ie, the thing hanging off the end of youre "MythTV Version" |
| [05:16:26] | iamlindoro: | er your |
| [05:16:40] | iamlindoro: | That's the last 8 digits of a commit |
| [05:17:05] | wagnerrp: | (or as much is needed to achieve uniqueness) |
| [05:17:57] | wagnerrp: | which is really going to cause problems for some packagers |
| [05:18:09] | wagnerrp: | because what may be unique now, may not be unique in the future |
| [05:18:30] | wagnerrp: | rendering an existing valid 7–8 digit shortened hash invalid at some point in the future |
| [05:18:55] | wagnerrp: | which is why the tag and version count is necessary |
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| [05:20:00] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
| [05:20:13] | mattwj2002: | what is the bandwidth of clear QAM? |
| [05:20:27] | eyeoh: | hmm |
| [05:20:30] | mattwj2002: | it is 38 or 39 MB/sec or Mbps? |
| [05:20:42] | wagnerrp: | bits |
| [05:20:47] | mattwj2002: | \o/ |
| [05:21:14] | mattwj2002: | so does this mean I can record an HDTV program onto a USB drive |
| [05:21:19] | mattwj2002: | ? |
| [05:21:40] | wagnerrp: | sure |
| [05:21:51] | wagnerrp: | why would you? |
| [05:22:17] | mattwj2002: | it is 2.5 inch drive |
| [05:23:00] | wagnerrp: | not very cost effective |
| [05:23:10] | mattwj2002: | actually it was |
| [05:23:22] | mattwj2002: | $10 |
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| [05:23:41] | wagnerrp: | where did you pull that one off? |
| [05:24:09] | mattwj2002: | it was $10 for the enclosure and the hard drive was free because it was out of an old laptop |
| [05:24:10] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [05:24:41] | wagnerrp: | should have gotten an enclosure that did eSATA |
| [05:24:46] | eyeoh: | so it's not flash storage I take it |
| [05:25:13] | mattwj2002: | actually I think it might be an ide drive |
| [05:25:39] | mattwj2002: | actually come to think of it....I am pretty sure it is |
| [05:26:25] | wagnerrp: | a laptop hard drive old enough to still be PATA isnt going to be capable of storing much |
| [05:26:35] | mattwj2002: | 100 GB |
| [05:26:42] | wagnerrp: | yeah, pretty small |
| [05:26:55] | wagnerrp: | 15 hours? |
| [05:27:08] | mattwj2002: | yeah |
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| [05:27:19] | wagnerrp: | i dont see the point |
| [05:27:19] | mattwj2002: | that is about what I figured |
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| [05:27:44] | wagnerrp: | cost twice as much per GB as a new 3.5" hard drive |
| [05:27:46] | mattwj2002: | it is a temporary solution and far from ideal |
| [05:27:58] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: |
| [05:28:11] | mattwj2002: | I have this hardware right now in my apartment |
| [05:37:02] | eyeoh: | so hmm. |
| [05:38:09] | mattwj2002: | your right |
| [05:38:13] | mattwj2002: | 16 hours isn't much |
| [05:38:25] | mattwj2002: | but right now I have no hd recording ability |
| [05:38:39] | wagnerrp: | with no hd... thats more like 50hrs |
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| [05:41:12] | mattwj2002: | I don't even know if Comcast has an analog broadcast anymore |
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| [06:04:56] | bobgill: | Does 0.24 work with XBMC using myth:// protocol? |
| [06:05:10] | iamlindoro: | You'd need to ask the XBMC people |
| [06:05:26] | wagnerrp: | you should be asking... does XBMC work with 0.24 |
| [06:05:52] | bobgill: | er yes that's the better question |
| [06:05:53] | wagnerrp: | XBMC offers no such protocols for us to access |
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| [06:18:17] | bobgill: | wagnerrp: you mean in mythfrontend or in xbmc? |
| [06:19:41] | wagnerrp: | we have no need to access anything in xbmc, so we do not need to support it for anything |
| [06:20:29] | bobgill: | yup that's fair, was just checking I will ask on their forums |
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| [06:26:57] | eyeoh: | Does autobuild apply just to mythbuntu? |
| [06:27:37] | eyeoh: | Cause mine is compiled from the 0.24 stable branch |
| [06:28:19] | eyeoh: | Still trying to wrap my head around getting DVB-T radio to work without booting me out ( http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/465536 ) |
| [06:29:03] | eyeoh: | It plays for a little bit but then I get the error messages as per first post. So I'm not sure whether it's me, or the latest stable which I hope I have installed already. |
| [06:29:27] | eyeoh: | The end of that thread seems to say that it's all good now, so I don't know if that applies for me as well. |
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| [06:42:54] | ** Beirdo runs around the channel screaming. ** | |
| [06:43:20] | eyeoh: | Alright, just changed it back from alsa:pulse to alsa:default and the messages are a little different when I try to open a radio channel |
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| [06:56:53] | clgshaft: | hey guys |
| [06:57:06] | clgshaft: | when i start watch tv it tries to open, and then closes |
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| [08:39:45] | eyeoh: | Hmm, appear to have got dvb-t radio channels working in kaffeine.. oops |
| [08:39:49] | eyeoh: | (Australia) |
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| [09:07:08] | Beirdo: | dangit |
| [09:07:29] | Beirdo: | the cigar box I wanted to put my dice in... just slightly too small :) |
| [09:07:39] | Beirdo: | I guess I'll have to use a bigger one |
| [09:07:50] | [R]: | "dice" |
| [09:07:54] | [R]: | is that some kind of slang? |
| [09:07:55] | Beirdo: | dice |
| [09:08:05] | Beirdo: | as in for D&D |
| [09:08:40] | [R]: | oh, i thought that was some kind of slang for a that's what she said joke |
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| [09:09:04] | Beirdo: | actually, the dice will fit, but the 100 colored glass markers make it a wee bit cramped and it won't close |
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| [09:36:51] | lyricnz: | eyeoh: are dvb-t radio any different to those radio stations that the tv finds automagically? |
| [09:44:33] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna have to dropkick my OTA antenna |
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| [10:37:56] | eyeoh: | lyricnz: nah they're exactly the same as the digital TV stations picked up by digital tuners. |
| [10:38:09] | eyeoh: | Only they have no video, just audio in the stream. |
| [10:38:26] | lyricnz: | in myth, at least, it just shows black/blank screen. |
| [10:39:17] | eyeoh: | yeah it does for a little while but then it drops out when it thinks there is no video |
| [10:39:36] | lyricnz: | I guess I never looked for more than 2 seconds ;) |
| [10:40:16] | eyeoh: | I realised that this being my main computer, with no 2nd display; I never really planned to have it as a full media centre thing |
| [10:40:29] | eyeoh: | There's no windowed mode for mythtv is there? |
| [10:44:08] | lyricnz: | sure there is |
| [10:44:26] | eyeoh: | o rly |
| [10:44:56] | eyeoh: | mythfrontend -geometry 1280x720 I see |
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| [10:49:05] | lyricnz: | There's configuration within myth to do that. display or screen etc |
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| [10:51:24] | Beirdo: | Ahhh, Jonny Lang |
| [10:51:45] | Beirdo: | man, that guy's voice does NOT match his body |
| [10:51:59] | Beirdo: | I remember seeing him in concert at 15. |
| [10:52:29] | Beirdo: | 15 year old scrawny white boy... with the voice of a 50-year old blues singer from the south. |
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| [10:53:21] | Beirdo: | hearing the voice, I visualized something more like B.B. King. not some teen punk |
| [10:54:22] | Beirdo: | from frickin North Dakota?! |
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| [11:03:06] | eyeoh: | yeah found it lyricnz thanks. |
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| [11:23:57] | Beirdo: | anyways, time to sleep. |
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| [11:37:54] | eyeoh: | lol tzap.. this is hilarious |
| [11:38:03] | ** eyeoh is loving it! ** | |
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| [12:23:06] | jjwin2k: | i still have problems with my eit source. one channel doesn't get more information than now and upcoming. i checked with a standalone receiver , the guide data there contains more information.. |
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| [14:02:23] | jjwin2k1: | wth? the eit stream does contain information for past shows...but not for more than one upcoming... |
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| [15:58:01] | wagnerrp: | HAHAHAHAHA |
| [15:58:09] | wagnerrp: | 'sent from my ipod shuffle' |
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| [16:14:57] | okolsi: | so.. I'm pulling latest stuff from git, but local changes stop the process.. should I just do 'merge' or maybe stash and later stash apply? |
| [16:16:22] | okolsi: | if I do 'merge', does it do some kind of commit? which I don't want.. just to merge stuff locally |
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| [16:21:46] | iamlindoro: | okolsi, git stash, git pull, git pop |
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| [16:22:01] | iamlindoro: | (has worked for me in the past, no warranty expressed or implied ;) ) |
| [16:22:22] | okolsi: | iamlindoro: thanks, I'll start my journey into the thin ice.. :) |
| [16:22:30] | iamlindoro: | heh, good luck :) |
| [16:22:42] | iamlindoro: | no arguments on any of the three, just as they occur above |
| [16:22:48] | okolsi: | okay |
| [16:23:47] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, you forgot step 1, "cross your fingers" :) |
| [16:24:05] | iamlindoro: | Step 1 is always implied ;) |
| [16:24:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | oh, one other. "make a backup of your directory" |
| [16:24:22] | okolsi: | is the last one 'stash apply'? since pop is not recognized here as a git command? |
| [16:24:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | and make a "git diff" so you have your changes in a file. :) |
| [16:24:41] | iamlindoro: | okolsi, I'm not familiar with stash apply, it's git pop on my version |
| [16:24:49] | okolsi: | Captain_Murdoch: did the diff just in case.. :) |
| [16:24:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | okolsi, if you're not running git 1.7.x, you should make every attempt to upgrade. git describe --dirty doesn't work with older versions either which messes up version.cpp. |
| [16:25:10] | iamlindoro: | okolsi, sorry |
| [16:25:12] | ** Captain_Murdoch compiled git 1.7.x on his fedora 8 dev box earlier today. ** | |
| [16:25:14] | iamlindoro: | okolsi, git stash pop |
| [16:26:18] | okolsi: | huh.. think I managed to do it.. :) |
| [16:27:36] | iamlindoro: | cool |
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| [16:37:26] | troldrik: | Is there a way to get mythvideo back into the 2 pane mode from 0.22ish? Annoying not to be able to read the titles of files. |
| [16:37:39] | wagnerrp: | edit the theme |
| [16:37:49] | GreyFoxx: | 2 pane mode ? |
| [16:37:54] | wagnerrp: | or use a different view |
| [16:37:58] | GreyFoxx: | As in the Video List/Videotree ? |
| [16:38:12] | wagnerrp: | GreyFoxx: hes in 'tree' view, or which ever one that is |
| [16:38:22] | wagnerrp: | where it gives you three levels of folders |
| [16:38:30] | GreyFoxx: | ahh right |
| [16:38:34] | troldrik: | yeah. |
| [16:38:36] | wagnerrp: | except hes on a 4:3 screen, so with those three levels, you cant read much |
| [16:38:40] | troldrik: | 16:9 |
| [16:38:57] | troldrik: | but it still cuts the titles of mah dvd boxes |
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| [16:39:15] | wagnerrp: | i would switch to gallery, to be honest |
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| [16:49:01] | troldrik: | well.. every theme I got installed is bloody awful in tree view. |
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| [16:54:44] | troldrik: | so if I were to hack a theme to go back to the old 2 level tree mode, where would I begin? |
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| [16:57:33] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development |
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| [17:22:57] | Nede: | happy new year!!!!!!!!!! |
| [17:23:08] | Nede: | one question: |
| [17:23:10] | Nede: | It 's normal that when I get out of internet video to take control of the menu I have to press the left mouse button? |
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| [17:23:45] | balor: | So my scan for channells is now working. What do I have to do to save all those channels? |
| [17:24:12] | wagnerrp: | Nede: the flash player grabs the mouse |
| [17:24:39] | wagnerrp: | you must click somewhere on mythtv itself for it to regain focus |
| [17:24:59] | wagnerrp: | balor: when you complete a scan from within mythtv, all channels get stored to the database automatically |
| [17:25:24] | wagnerrp: | Nede: 0.25 should have a mechanism for better handling that |
| [17:27:07] | balor: | wagnerrp: In the channel editor they all show up as unnamed. Is this right, even though they've scanned in as "BBC One" etc... |
| [17:27:18] | Nede: | Hi wagnerrp, happy new year! So most likely from 0.25 resolves? |
| [17:27:45] | wagnerrp: | Nede: 0.25 is in development, not yet released |
| [17:28:21] | wagnerrp: | balor: mythtv can only use whatever data was provided to it, if your broadcaster does not provide channel names within the stream, you will have to manually set them yourself from within the channel editor |
| [17:28:51] | wagnerrp: | if w_scan came up with names, the it seems theres still a problem in the configuration somewhere, or else mythtv-setup is just deficient in that manner |
| [17:28:55] | Nede: | yes-yes wagnerrp, that's ok! |
| [17:29:31] | Nede: | wagnerrp: We look forward to March |
| [17:29:36] | wagnerrp: | Nede: currently, in mythnetvision, you will need a mouse for most operations |
| [17:29:43] | wagnerrp: | march? |
| [17:31:51] | Nede: | wagnerrp: stable relase 0.25 in http://code.mythtv.org/trac/roadmap date is march |
| [17:38:41] | Nede: | wagnerrp: By the way, what do you think of how to score the changeset ex: 3cf32e8. I personally liked it better as before |
| [17:40:32] | Nede: | wagnerrp: Greetings and thanks! Available as always !!!!! I go out to dinner, good evening! |
| [17:40:43] | Nede: | Good evening chat! |
| [17:40:59] | wagnerrp: | how to score what? |
| [17:41:30] | Nede: | hem, google translate.......one moment... |
| [17:42:11] | wagnerrp: | that commit looks liek some change to fix playing audio-only channels in the internal player |
| [17:42:26] | wagnerrp: | something ive never tried to do |
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| [17:43:19] | wagnerrp: | or are you talking about the hash in general, as opposed to the linear numerical revisions of svn? |
| [17:44:42] | Nede: | 2° |
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| [17:46:08] | wagnerrp: | changeset doesnt really matter, since we dont use that for versioning |
| [17:46:17] | wagnerrp: | we use the git description |
| [17:46:21] | iamlindoro: | he's gone |
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| [17:49:07] | balor: | So in my Channel Editor I choose "Channel Scan" which now works. Clicking "Finish" brings me back to the Channel Editor, but no channels are listed. Do I need to do something else? (I have read the fine manual) |
| [17:53:30] | balor: | Also, "select * from mythconverg.channel;" returns the empty set |
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| [17:57:27] | Yae: | does anyone know where I could find the IR patch for the ATSC 110/115? The wiki's discussion pages and the user page that formerly hosted the patch/instructions have been wiped and google is giving me nothing |
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| [18:07:59] | balor: | Is there a way to get more debug output from mythtv-setup? Specifically the SQL queries that are executed? |
| [18:13:59] | antgel: | i have a question. i have 2 x dvb-t and 2 x dvb-s tuners in backends that i haven't updated for a year. they are now running 0.24 successfully, but they are missing some newer channels. what's the procedure for adding new channels without messing up my existing channels? |
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| [18:17:30] | Yae: | channel scan will prompt you for new non-conflicting and new conflicting channels separately |
| [18:17:47] | antgel: | let me ask more accurately. if i do a channel scan, will it mess up my existing settings? |
| [18:17:52] | antgel: | Yae: ah, good timing :) |
| [18:18:16] | antgel: | our messages overlapped. right, i'll do a scan and see what happens *crosses fingers* |
| [18:18:42] | Yae: | so you could add all for non-conflicting channels and then go through any conflicting channels individually to be safe |
| [18:18:44] | Yae: | good luck |
| [18:19:01] | antgel: | Yae: thanks. er, what's a "conflicting channel"? |
| [18:19:52] | Yae: | channel with a different ATSC/QAM channel but broadcasting an identifier already present on your table |
| [18:20:08] | Yae: | for instance, in chicago we get a weird channel from Indiana on ATSC 32, I think |
| [18:20:10] | antgel: | Yae: hmm. i don't know what ATSC/QAM are – do they apply to DVB? |
| [18:20:32] | Yae: | chicago ATSC 15 is CBS. Both identify as 2.1 |
| [18:20:38] | Yae: | so I set the other one to 70.1 |
| [18:20:51] | Yae: | don't worry about it, the channel scan will make it easy for you |
| [18:20:54] | Yae: | :) |
| [18:22:54] | wagnerrp: | balor: turn up ther verbosity... '-v help' |
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| [18:36:57] | antgel: | just tried full scan (tuned) on my dvb-t card. got "error parsing parameters". any clues? |
| [18:37:11] | Yae: | huh |
| [18:37:29] | antgel: | is "scan of all existing transports" more appropriate? maybe with "search new transports" ticked"? |
| [18:37:38] | highzeth: | yep |
| [18:37:48] | antgel: | highzeth: yep to the latter? :) |
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| [18:38:13] | highzeth: | indeed |
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| [18:38:39] | antgel: | highzeth: and "search new transports" needs to be ticked? sorry, but i'm perhaps not that well informed on dvb innards |
| [18:39:26] | antgel: | here goes nothing |
| [18:39:27] | highzeth: | if you don't know the new channels info, then yes would be preferred(bare in mind channel "spam" will/might occur) |
| [18:40:09] | antgel: | and we're scanning! i backed up my database so it can't go that wrong :) |
| [18:40:29] | antgel: | i suppose i need to update xmltv info for new channels as well, but all in good time |
| [18:41:02] | highzeth: | I usually check any new channels and only scan the given transport(s), save you a bit of clean-up after |
| [18:41:38] | highzeth: | yeah, that won't come by itself, easy enough tho =) |
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| [18:46:20] | clgshaft: | how do i check to see if my tuner card is loading properly? |
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| [18:47:44] | wagnerrp: | dmesg logs |
| [18:48:48] | clgshaft: | thanks |
| [18:49:06] | clgshaft: | where can i get the 2250 drivers with kernel labs site down? |
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| [18:59:02] | wagnerrp: | the 2250 analog drivers have been merged into the linuxtv repository |
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| [18:59:38] | Yae: | does anyone know where I could find the IR patch for the ATSC 110/115? The wiki's discussion pages and the user page that formerly hosted the patch/instructions have been wiped and google is giving me nothing |
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| [19:02:42] | bbeattie: | I've been running an older .20 myth release and now when upgrading to .24 I'm not able to get atsc channels to appear using the same steps as before. Basically I go to scan, it finds the channels, I run schedules direct but the end result is the program data from schedules direct doesn't match up to the scanned channels. |
| [19:03:08] | bbeattie: | In .20 there was only the channels db table, but in .24 there's channels (which contains major/ntsc values) and channelscan which contains the scanned channels |
| [19:03:42] | bbeattie: | if everything 'worked' should I be seeing something like 2–1, 4–1, 4–2, 4–3, and so on in the channels table? |
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| [19:06:30] | bbeattie: | I did also notice that you can't set the tv format to "ATSC" as you did in .20, but rather in .24 you have to select NTSC or cable, but I'm using ATSC OTA |
| [19:09:04] | wagnerrp: | Yae: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/KWorld_ATSC . . . trol_support |
| [19:10:43] | Yae: | I looked over the page. The link to the patch is at the top of the page, but it links to a now-defunct wiki user page |
| [19:10:56] | wagnerrp: | Yae: seems the patch can be found here... http://mythtv.org/wiki/User:Vprada#Kernel_Modification |
| [19:11:05] | Yae: | what |
| [19:11:06] | Yae: | it loaded |
| [19:11:07] | Yae: | thanks |
| [19:11:24] | Yae: | I swear it wasn't loading for me a minute ago |
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| [19:14:50] | bbeattie: | Could someone comment on my question? |
| [19:15:08] | Yae: | OTA broadcast in NA is NTSC |
| [19:15:24] | bbeattie: | yae: even for atsc? |
| [19:15:25] | wagnerrp: | bbeattie: that is the same behavior as in 0.20 |
| [19:15:34] | Yae: | you're using an ATSC (digital) tuner to grab NTSC (format) broadcast |
| [19:15:41] | wagnerrp: | you have never been able to pull a digital lineup from a schedule provider |
| [19:15:51] | wagnerrp: | and while mythtv will attempt to match up what names it can |
| [19:16:04] | wagnerrp: | you often have a number of channels for which you must manually set the xmltvid |
| [19:17:53] | bbeattie: | ... when I wrote the atsc support for myth back in 2000 it worked then... I just moved back after 4 years of living without tv reception... What I see happening is the channelscan table appears fine, but the scan doesn't add channels to the channel table. When schedules direct runs it adds non-hd channels, even though schedules direct has only digital channels marked. |
| [19:18:40] | wagnerrp: | you should not have mixed digital and analog channels in your SD lineup |
| [19:18:45] | bbeattie: | I'm way out of date with myth, so just trying to figure out if it's myside that's broken or if myth's fallen out of date for atsc |
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| [19:18:55] | bbeattie: | there have never been analog channels, |
| [19:19:07] | bbeattie: | in schedules direct, but it's adding them, maybe a bug in their system? |
| [19:19:08] | Yae: | I'm watching football via OTA ATSC as we speak |
| [19:19:18] | Yae: | sadly have no experience with SD, so I can't help you |
| [19:19:29] | wagnerrp: | and digital channels will never be added to your database by mythfilldatabase, or by pulling the lineup in mythtv-setup |
| [19:19:45] | wagnerrp: | Yae: but youre using ATSC? |
| [19:19:51] | bbeattie: | wagnerrp: that's what I'm seeing, which is fine |
| [19:19:58] | bbeattie: | yes |
| [19:20:14] | GreyFoxx: | Yay, my new ubuntu based FE likes to lockup right after the gdm login screen when using multiple nvidia video cards + xinerama |
| [19:20:34] | bbeattie: | schedules direct immediately upon running adds ntsc channels, and program info based on those but never digital channels... |
| [19:20:41] | GreyFoxx: | It's right with the login screen up, but right after login and ubuntu does it's startup audio sound the entire system locks solid :/ |
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| [19:20:57] | wagnerrp: | Yae: your broadcasters actually broadcast enough EIT data to be worthwhile? |
| [19:21:19] | Yae: | it's a bit shaky |
| [19:21:28] | Yae: | the titles are always correct |
| [19:21:37] | Yae: | and always in the right spot. The descriptions often get jumbled |
| [19:21:53] | wagnerrp: | but for most of the US, those titles are only for a few hours out |
| [19:22:04] | wagnerrp: | the scheduler doesnt much like to run with that little future data |
| [19:22:06] | Yae: | we get about a day and a half |
| [19:23:17] | Yae: | I have toyed with schedules direct from time to time, although your experience will probably help me fend off the urge ;) |
| [19:24:17] | wagnerrp: | channelscan is only a temporary table |
| [19:24:43] | wagnerrp: | channels and dtv_multiplex is still where all the data is permanently stored |
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| [19:40:16] | clgshaft: | wagnerrp, i added the linuxtv repo, when i make i get errors |
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| [19:58:46] | Razal: | lol @ github.com 404 page |
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| [20:12:38] | balor: | Hmm...so I should do *both* (a) "Scan for channels" and (b) "Fetch channels from listings source"? |
| [20:12:45] | balor: | I've just been doing (a) to date |
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| [20:14:15] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [20:14:23] | wagnerrp: | for digital, you scan for channels only |
| [20:14:38] | wagnerrp: | then you go into the channel editor and match the xmltvids from your listings provider to those channels |
| [20:17:34] | Razal: | in a version of fixes/0.24 [v0.24-83-gc81a3d7], what is the 83 part? |
| [20:17:38] | balor: | But it generates no channels in the channel editor |
| [20:17:54] | wagnerrp: | 83 commits in that branch since 0.24 was tagged |
| [20:17:59] | balor: | I think I'll just have to start again....It shouldn't take 2 days to configure :( |
| [20:18:20] | Razal: | aha, thanks wagnerrp |
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| [20:21:32] | balor: | right...dropped mythconverg |
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| [20:28:17] | clgshaft: | if i am unable to get any tuners working, am i better off doing a clean install? |
| [20:28:34] | [R]: | what's the point of a standard if everyone does it differently? ala upnp |
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| [20:33:15] | wagnerrp: | thats a good question |
| [20:35:31] | clgshaft: | can anyone help me and tell me if my tuner cards are loading properly? http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/2037135 thanks |
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| [20:36:24] | kth: | wagnerrp: some little question – do i have to use 2 video sources to concurrently use 2 different transponders with 2 dvb devices? or can i use the same video source with both dvb devices ? |
| [20:37:55] | [R]: | kth: if the physical source is the same... than you only need 1 source |
| [20:38:23] | wagnerrp: | can each tuner access all channels? |
| [20:38:39] | wagnerrp: | if not, then you need multiple sources |
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| [20:43:38] | kth: | wagnerrp: yes – but how do i configure it to choose every time the correct tuner? both tuners are connected to a multiswitch which is connected to one universal lnb – currently i see enough tuners at status page but i'm not able to use both tuners – log says "your frequency setting is out of range" |
| [20:44:12] | kth: | wagnerrp: do i have to use switch instead of lnb at diseqc parameters of tuners? |
| [20:44:40] | wagnerrp: | honestly, i know nothing of satellite or diseqc or any of that crap |
| [20:44:44] | wagnerrp: | the source is the shared list of channels |
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| [20:44:58] | wagnerrp: | any tuner using that source must be able to record any channel on that source |
| [20:45:28] | kth: | wagnerrp: hm okay i'll try some more |
| [20:45:53] | wagnerrp: | if you have two tuners with nearly the same channel access, even if they only differ by one channel, they must have different sources |
| [20:48:22] | kth: | wagnerrp: i've got two tuners which have the same hardware and only another port on the same multiswitch ;) so they should be able to do exactly the same ;) |
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| [20:49:45] | wagnerrp: | but if theyre both tied off the same LNB, wouldnt they be mutually exclusive? |
| [20:50:13] | wagnerrp: | i.e. only one of them can be operating at a time |
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| [20:51:28] | kth: | wagnerrp: no because of the multiswitch – maybe i have to change the diseqc settings at both tuners to switch but i dont know wether thats the problem – using some of the tuners with kaffeine or whatever is working correctly while using the other one in mythtv |
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| [20:55:58] | kth: | wagnerrp: well okay it seems that recording 2 different transponders work right now ... but when i try to switch to a channel which is at the transponder of the 2nd tuner i can't switch at live tv – watching a channel from the first tuner while both tuners record two different transponders/channels is possible |
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| [20:57:09] | wagnerrp: | because your first two tuners are virtual tuners off the same physical tuner |
| [20:57:25] | wagnerrp: | you have to switch tuners if you want to access a new multiplex after youre already recording using the first tuner |
| [20:57:26] | high-rez: | So you have one universal LNB, pointed at one bird, a multiswitch which is pushin 13 volt to one of the connectors on the LNB and 18 volt to the other connector on the LNB ? |
| [20:57:31] | btwe: | Hi, how can I setup a storage group for the music plugin – to stream music to fronends? |
| [20:57:44] | wagnerrp: | btwe: you cant, not yet |
| [20:57:54] | btwe: | wagnerrp: thx .. |
| [20:58:03] | wagnerrp: | only videos have been migrated over to the new system |
| [20:58:13] | btwe: | wagnerrp: thats a really nice feature! |
| [20:58:16] | wagnerrp: | music and photos will likely be migrated by the next version |
| [20:58:23] | high-rez: | kth: But how many actual tuners do you have? Because if you're attempting multirec with ONE tuner – you'll be able to tune into as many channels are on that transponder, but not to channels on another transponder. |
| [20:58:43] | wagnerrp: | high-rez: sounds like two physical, tied off the same LNB |
| [20:59:05] | wagnerrp: | kth: what happens when youre already recording on one tuner, and you try to access something on a different polarity? |
| [20:59:06] | kth: | high-rez: i've got 2 physical tuners located on 2 different ports of an 5/8 multiswitch which have one lnb through 19.2 |
| [20:59:19] | btwe: | What are SCTE channels? Scanning alway finds one SCTE channel, which should be an ordinary dvb channel. |
| [21:00:24] | kth: | high-rez: i've also at both physical tuners 2 virtual tuners ... and currently i'm able to record 2 different multiplex/transponder ... but i cannot use the already captured transponder of the second physical tuner at live tv – only the one of the first physical tuner |
| [21:00:28] | high-rez: | kth: And you configured both tuners the same and pointed them to the same video source? That should work. E.g. Tuner 1 -> Video Source 1 && Tuner 2 -> Video Source 1 |
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| [21:01:25] | high-rez: | kth: Ahh. That's a myth thing. :) You have to manually switch input. By default it'll put you on tuner 1. While in live tv, go setup – input source – switch input source |
| [21:01:40] | high-rez: | kth: And then you can switch to the other tuner. Don't ask me why that is, it just is. |
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| [21:02:01] | wagnerrp: | its because of how mythtv handles multiplexes |
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| [21:02:20] | wagnerrp: | you can record multiple 'channels' on a single multiplex because you have multiple virtual tuners tied to one physical tuner |
| [21:02:33] | wagnerrp: | when you go into livetv, you will pick up the first available tuner, be it physical or virtual |
| [21:02:43] | wagnerrp: | if another virtual tuner on that same physical tuner is already in use |
| [21:02:44] | balor: | hmmm....nothing works. Not mplayer, not tvtime, not mythtv, not totem...However all scan the channels correctly. |
| [21:03:00] | kth: | wagnerrp: okay but why does mythtv not check the other tuners when it fails? |
| [21:03:02] | wagnerrp: | that virtual tuner will only be able to access those channels on the same multiplex |
| [21:03:04] | high-rez: | kth: That is, if tuner1 is busy recording on transponder 1, and you go to watch live tv – and you have multirec – you'll watch live tv on tuner 1 tranpsonder 1. If you try to switch channels to a different transponder, myth won't go "oh i can't do that on tuner 1 but tuner 2 is avaialble" instead it'll go "nope that won't work) and switch you back to a program on tuner 1. So instead you have to tell it "i want to start using tuner 2 now" by selectin |
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| [21:03:12] | wagnerrp: | if you want to access another multiplex, you must switch to a completely free tuner |
| [21:03:20] | balor: | And the IR receiver doesn't seem to fit into the IR port snugly....could my card be broken? |
| [21:04:21] | high-rez: | kth: The behavior is just waht it is. Until someone volunteers code to make it check if another tuner is available because the one you're on now is locked to a specific trans[pmder/// |
| [21:06:06] | kth: | high-rez: where do i have to change the input at mythtv-frontend? or at backend ? |
| [21:06:31] | high-rez: | kth: ON the frontened. I have it mapped to a key – but basically bring up the OSD menu (it's either m or s keys) |
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| [21:06:39] | high-rez: | That is, while you're watching live tv |
| [21:07:01] | high-rez: | Bring up the OSD menu... Then click input source or something liek that, and switch input source, and it'll let you grab the second, free, tuner. |
| [21:08:09] | high-rez: | Looks like it's the M key. Then select Source and then select change input source or something like that. |
| [21:08:17] | kth: | high-rez: very good thx ... i don't know about this feature ;) – is it possible to bind direct change to a specific input to a key? ;) |
| [21:08:46] | Yae: | I need to figure out virtual tuners, since I only have one physical tuner |
| [21:09:14] | high-rez: | kth: I wouldn't be surprised if it is possible to bind a switch source key to a specific key, but I wouldn't know how. If you figure it out let me know ;) |
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| [21:10:47] | kth: | high-rez: maybe it is possible to make different registered input sources choosable at s program overview? ;) would be nice too |
| [21:14:26] | kth: | high-rez: it is also possible to use p-i-p with the second tuner/input src – nice |
| [21:15:10] | high-rez: | kth: What I wqould like to see if when you go to the program guide, if say you have two tuners – both recording on different transponders, it would black out the programs that are not available and only show the programs that are available on the transponders currently recordong on. |
| [21:15:29] | high-rez: | kth: The whole source change input source thing is not very intuitive – but it works :) |
| [21:16:14] | wagnerrp: | livetv is not very intuitive |
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| [21:16:25] | wagnerrp: | just set anything you might want to watch to record, and watch it later |
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| [21:17:15] | kth: | high-rez: at my mythtv it blacks out the channels which are not possible because of a recording – at your mythtv not ? |
| [21:17:17] | tolj: | anyone use mythdora? what version of fedora is mythdora 12.23 built |
| [21:17:17] | Yae: | that actually bothers me |
| [21:17:24] | Yae: | I use livetv almost exclusively |
| [21:17:39] | Yae: | I think myth as a project has bought too much into the "everyone just DVRs everything" theory |
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| [21:18:17] | [R]: | if you want livetv, theres plenty of other programs for that |
| [21:18:17] | wagnerrp: | yae: if you just want to watch livetv, get a commercial dvr, or just use your tv |
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| [21:18:22] | tolj: | Yae: what are you trying to do? |
| [21:18:49] | jams: | tolj- the mythdora website says 12+updates |
| [21:18:53] | wagnerrp: | the purpose of mythtv is to allow you to have multiple tuners, a bunch of hard drives, and have them serving to several frontends throughout your house |
| [21:19:37] | kth: | high-rez: i actually use mythbuntu 10.04 x64 on a 4gb cf-card with additional hdds to record to – but i wan't to update to mythtv 0.24 now ;) |
| [21:20:39] | wagnerrp: | hopefully thats a frontend only? |
| [21:21:44] | kth: | wagnerrp: no the 4gb cf is the underlying os only ;) every recording /db ... is located on hdds ;) |
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| [21:22:28] | kth: | wagnerrp: but booting is as fast as is should be because of the speed of cf ;) – at the future it will be replaced by ssd |
| [21:22:44] | wagnerrp: | yes, SSDs, not CF cards |
| [21:23:09] | wagnerrp: | your average 5400rpm laptop drive will outperform a CF card for most tasks |
| [21:23:53] | kth: | wagnerrp: yes okay ... but cf card wasn't so much expensive at this time and backup my mythtv box with some little 1:1 image on a dvd is really nice ;) |
| [21:24:30] | kth: | wagnerrp: not for reading ;) writing yes – reading cf beats me 7200 rpm laptop drive down ;) |
| [21:24:39] | kth: | my |
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| [21:25:39] | kth: | but the ordered intel x25 should be even faster than the cf ;) |
| [21:27:10] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Anyone have any experience with Mythbrowser and LIRC? |
| [21:27:31] | [R]: | GadgetWisdomGuru: do you have an actual question? |
| [21:31:08] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Well, I'm starting to play with using Mythbrowser inside MythNetvision and by itself to bring in some content. And I was reading the mapping in the wiki, but all I really want is for, when I'm in the browser, the Up-Down-Right-Left-Select to act like the arrow keys would in a browser. But I've never played much with key mapping on the MythTV as opposed to LIRC side, and I was concerned that adjusting the mapping for Mythbrowser would interfere wit |
| [21:33:07] | [R]: | interfere wit... |
| [21:33:56] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | If I map the keypad of the remote to act like Up and Down keys in MythBrowser, wouldn't that interfere with the same in the menus? |
| [21:34:33] | [R]: | GadgetWisdomGuru: mythbrowser has a context that you can map keys in |
| [21:34:36] | [R]: | check edit keys |
| [21:34:39] | [R]: | theres a mythbrowser part |
| [21:34:54] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I thought it might. |
| [21:35:02] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I've just never fiddled with that section. |
| [21:35:15] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | No time like the present, I suppose. |
| [21:35:16] | [R]: | well backu pyour db |
| [21:35:18] | [R]: | and try |
| [21:37:18] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I'm just looking at those leanback interfaces companies are writing in HTML5 that would integrate nicely into MythBrowser if I could launch them. |
| [21:37:57] | balor: | If a dvb card works, should «mplayer – < /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0» produce some visible output? |
| [21:38:24] | balor: | I'm now trying to verify if my card actually works or not |
| [21:41:27] | [R]: | GadgetWisdomGuru: huh? |
| [21:42:04] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | [R]: Ever looked at, for example, the New York Times site in the Chrome Web Store? |
| [21:42:18] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Designed to be navigated by a keypad |
| [21:42:20] | tolj: | is there a stand alone version of mythcommflag, I would like to use it with ivtv tools |
| [21:42:32] | [R]: | GadgetWisdomGuru: i'm illeteriate... i don't read |
| [21:42:43] | [R]: | tolj: standalone? |
| [21:43:19] | tolj: | [R]: yes, as in mythtv independent |
| [21:43:33] | grumpydevil: | hi |
| [21:43:51] | [R]: | tolj: no |
| [21:44:05] | grumpydevil: | can somebody tell me the difference between db version 1265 and 1264? |
| [21:44:23] | tolj: | [R]: do you know of a similar tool ? |
| [21:44:30] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | [R]: Funny. |
| [21:44:31] | grumpydevil: | is it difficult/possible to downgrade that DB from 1265 to 1264? |
| [21:44:40] | [R]: | tolj: n |
| [21:44:45] | [R]: | no |
| [21:44:55] | [R]: | grumpydevil: its in the source |
| [21:45:15] | grumpydevil: | where? |
| [21:45:45] | [R]: | grumpydevil: dbschema.cpp i think its called |
| [21:46:03] | grumpydevil: | i had a friends production system accidentally on master, caused by git 1.6 not working as git 1.7 |
| [21:46:14] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:46:21] | grumpydevil: | i've since upgraded git, but now looking at some unpleasent results... |
| [21:46:53] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | [R]: My goal is to do everything without ever exiting the Myth interface |
| [21:47:04] | [R]: | GadgetWisdomGuru: that's what everyone says |
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| [21:48:11] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | [R]: I know that. |
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| [22:03:53] | balor: | This – http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_freesat.php – is an *awesome* guide. |
| [22:04:31] | wagnerrp: | no, terrible guide |
| [22:04:34] | balor: | I now have a channels.conf from dvbscan...I presume I can import this into mythtv |
| [22:04:40] | wagnerrp: | especially the bits about how to backup and recover your database |
| [22:04:46] | wagnerrp: | or any other tinkering with your database |
| [22:05:04] | balor: | wagnerrp: It's the first guide which has allowed me to get any channels from my DVB card |
| [22:05:04] | wagnerrp: | and as mentioned, there are lots of things that dont work when you import from a channels.conf, rather than scanning internally |
| [22:05:20] | balor: | but scanning interally doesn't work at all. |
| [22:05:23] | balor: | It scans |
| [22:05:28] | balor: | but no channels are created |
| [22:05:51] | balor: | There's no UPDATE or INSERT sql statement after a scan is done |
| [22:09:56] | balor: | Looks like importing doesn't work either...it just scans again |
| [22:10:18] | balor: | I *really* just don't get this. |
| [22:10:25] | balor: | Maybe mythtv is not for me |
| [22:10:56] | [R]: | may be... |
| [22:11:38] | clgshaft: | Balor I am thinking the same thing. Been at this for two months now and I cannot get it working. However I can get everything to work outside of mythtv |
| [22:11:48] | sid3windr: | E or INSERT sql statement after a scan is done |
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| [22:11:54] | sid3windr: | woops |
| [22:12:14] | balor: | clgshaft: that beats my two days |
| [22:12:44] | clgshaft: | Yup. Tried all the distros. I have learned quite a bit. |
| [22:14:16] | balor: | clgshaft: What's your issue? |
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| [22:15:17] | clgshaft: | Nvidia audio, 950q always crashing, 2250 drivers. Yours? I am now using ubuntu. You? |
| [22:15:57] | balor: | clgshaft: I can get myth-setup to scan my stuff, but it won't create channels. |
| [22:17:00] | clgshaft: | balor: What are you using for a tuner card? Distro? |
| [22:17:41] | balor: | clgshaft: I'm using a Hauppage Nova-DVB-S2, Fedora 14 on a low-power Celeron with a SiS "graphics" (you can't call it graphics) |
| [22:18:00] | balor: | I only want the live tv functionality |
| [22:18:14] | clgshaft: | I have no experience with any of that. |
| [22:18:30] | antgel: | balor: are you sure at the end of the scan you're clicking on the right icon to save the channels? ISTR it's not obvious |
| [22:18:45] | antgel: | -s/right icon/correct button/ |
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| [22:19:31] | clgshaft: | I had my 950 working with 0.23 no audio though, and upgraded to 0.24 and it stopped working. Tried a clean install with 0.23 and no go. |
| [22:19:36] | antgel: | 23:18 [R]> if you want livetv, theres plenty of other programs for that |
| [22:19:52] | antgel: | [R]: if myth supports it, it should endeavour to do it well |
| [22:20:02] | clgshaft: | I have now installed ubuntu again to try again. |
| [22:20:24] | antgel: | my parents use the myth system i set up for them, and watching live tv is probably what they do most of the time. it would be counter-intuitive to switch programs |
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| [22:23:06] | balor: | antgel: What's the correct button? |
| [22:23:45] | balor: | antgel: I assumed it was the "Finish" button |
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| [22:26:29] | clgshaft: | Should I upgrade my distro to 0.24 before I install mythtv? |
| [22:26:57] | balor: | clgshaft: If you're using Ubuntu, the latest is 10.10 AFAIK. |
| [22:27:14] | balor: | clgshaft: They have decent support for the proprietary NVidia drivers |
| [22:28:36] | clgshaft: | Yeah it comes with 0.23. I have installed the nvidia drivers, video is fine, no audio. I cannot get my onboard audio to work either. |
| [22:29:53] | clgshaft: | I could try fedora. |
| [22:31:00] | balor: | Fedora 13 and 14 both come with 0.24 |
| [22:31:38] | balor: | So is your issue just that the audio doesn't work? |
| [22:31:47] | [R]: | antgel: except thats not the goal of mythtv |
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| [22:32:04] | [R]: | antgel: it "endevours" to acheive the goal of the developpers |
| [22:32:29] | balor: | clgshaft: If your audio works in, say Gnome, try the MythTV ALSA:pulse audio device |
| [22:32:56] | clgshaft: | Audio doesn't work on anything. 950q crashes and waiting for kernel labs site to come online to install my 2250 |
| [22:33:13] | [R]: | antgel: if you dont like it... you are more than welcome to submit patches to fix what you don't like |
| [22:33:50] | balor: | So, at the end of a scan, do I click the "Finish" button. Or do I click something else as antgel implies? |
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| [22:35:12] | knightr: | clgshaft, the link I provided you with should work for that, it's a pretty recent copy of what was on the kernellabs site... |
| [22:35:12] | balor: | clgshaft: It sounds like a NVidia kernel drivers issue then. Probably not solvable by switching distros. Maybe ask in #ubuntu, or #ubuntu-uk if the uk is your country code. |
| [22:35:18] | clgshaft: | I always click finish. Never had a problem adding channels |
| [22:35:32] | balor: | So it must be Finish then |
| [22:36:08] | clgshaft: | Already asked in ubuntu |
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| [22:55:57] | tolj: | How to scan for channels in mythtv? the option "Channel Scan" is disabled |
| [22:56:48] | [R]: | tolj: what kind of tuner do you have? |
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| [22:57:50] | balor: | tolj: I used the scandvb app in dvb-apps package |
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| [22:59:33] | tolj: | [R]: hauppauge wintv 1600 |
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| [22:59:46] | [R]: | tolj: is that analog |
| [22:59:47] | [R]: | ? |
| [23:00:10] | tolj: | both |
| [23:00:14] | [R]: | you can't scan on analog |
| [23:00:25] | tolj: | balor: how to use that command |
| [23:00:30] | antgel: | [R]: i personally have no problem with live tv functionality |
| [23:00:39] | [R]: | antgel: great... than no problem |
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| [23:01:12] | antgel: | [R]: it's worth pointing out the first bullet point on http://www.mythtv.org/detail/mythtv : "Watch and record analog and/or digital TV, including HDTV." |
| [23:01:21] | antgel: | oh, and the second |
| [23:01:26] | [R]: | antgel: and? |
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| [23:01:55] | antgel: | so if that's not the "goal of mythtv" it would be a good idea to update the website so people don't get disappointed |
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| [23:02:04] | [R]: | antgel: whats wrong? |
| [23:02:11] | [R]: | you just said you have no problem |
| [23:02:17] | [R]: | sounds like you've got issues |
| [23:02:23] | [R]: | first you say no problem, than yo usay problem |
| [23:02:25] | ** [R] thinks someone needs help ** | |
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| [23:02:36] | [R]: | something i am unable to provide... /me points to the head |
| [23:02:39] | antgel: | [R]: you suggested ^^^ that live TV isn't a mythtv goal. i'm saying that the website suggests it *is* a goal. |
| [23:02:49] | [R]: | antgel: it works... |
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| [23:03:01] | [R]: | you CAN watch tv |
| [23:03:04] | antgel: | [R]: indeed |
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| [23:04:08] | antgel: | anyway, moving on... i'd like some help with my channel scan – not sure what's going on. this is rescanning a dvb-t card that has worked for the last year, but i want the new channels |
| [23:05:13] | tolj: | balor: I dont see an initial-tuining-data-file for my region |
| [23:08:04] | antgel: | i'll do another scan now then i can post the questions here – not sure what the "correct" options are |
| [23:08:57] | antgel: | right |
| [23:09:14] | antgel: | found 62 off-air channels – what's an off-air channel, and should i just "delete all"? |
| [23:09:16] | tolj: | antgel: there is a scantv program in xawtv package |
| [23:09:27] | tolj: | which one do you use to scan? |
| [23:09:41] | antgel: | tolj: i'm scanning from within mythtv, of course :) |
| [23:10:05] | tolj: | that dosn't seem to work for me |
| [23:10:38] | antgel: | tolj: it works fine here – just trying to work out how to answer the questions posed after the scan is complete |
| [23:11:49] | antgel: | i did "delete all" :-O |
| [23:11:50] | antgel: | next |
| [23:11:50] | tolj: | [R]: how to change my tuner card from analog to digital then? |
| [23:12:03] | [R]: | tolj: you need to set it up properly... did you check the wiki? |
| [23:12:04] | tolj: | [R]: so that I can scan for channels |
| [23:12:09] | antgel: | "found 45 old dvb channels" – update all, update manually, or ignore all? |
| [23:13:12] | tolj: | [R]: i am in backend setup now but dont see any options related to digital undeer captuer card setup |
| [23:13:40] | [R]: | [04:12:03] [R] tolj: you need to set it up properly... did you check the wiki? |
| [23:14:07] | tolj: | looking at it now |
| [23:14:57] | antgel: | right, let's try "update all". in the absence of any info as to the contrary, it sounds reasonable enough |
| [23:15:10] | antgel: | okay, we move on |
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| [23:35:19] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
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| [23:42:14] | FinnTux: | I think I have found a workaround for my livetv problem... |
| [23:42:25] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: are you here? |
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| [23:44:42] | FinnTux: | I added 10 msec sleep in mythtv/libs/libmythtv/signalmonitor.cpp inside if (waitfor_tune). Function SignalMonitor::Start |
| [23:45:20] | FinnTux: | haven't had a single failed channel change after that. No idea what else it breaks though... |
| [23:46:21] | FinnTux: | I also started 5 conecurrent recordings (as fast as I could ckick them in mythweb) and every one of them started recording ok |
| [23:46:27] | FinnTux: | click* |
| [23:46:48] | iamlindoro: | jpabq, ^^ |
| [23:49:28] | abqjp: | FinnTux: what tuner are you using? Feel free to create a ticket with your patch. |
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| [23:50:14] | FinnTux: | abqjp, IPTV recorder |
| [23:50:43] | mattwj2002: | what is an IPTV recorder? |
| [23:51:00] | FinnTux: | I hope someone who actually knows the inside of mythtv would take a look at it |
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| [23:52:05] | FinnTux: | mattwj2002, record from UDP multicast stream |
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| [23:52:34] | mattwj2002: | hmmm |
| [23:52:38] | abqjp: | FinnTux: I need to see the patch, but I would be willing to bring it up with the right people.... |
| [23:52:40] | iamlindoro: | FinnTux, abqjp is the most familiar of all of us with the code you are referring to-- if he's asking for a tiecket, that's about as knowledgeable about it as it gets ;) |
| [23:52:56] | mattwj2002: | what is the model number of such a device? |
| [23:53:17] | iamlindoro: | mattwj2002, the recording occurs through the network card, not a device |
| [23:53:52] | mattwj2002: | okay but the IP recorder connects to a physical device does it not? |
| [23:53:57] | FinnTux: | abqjp, it is just a simple usleep(10*1000); in /mythtv/libs/libmythtv/signalmonitor.cpp |
| [23:54:03] | mattwj2002: | or does it connect to a service provider? |
| [23:54:13] | FinnTux: | Function void SignalMonitor::Start(bool waitfor_tune) |
| [23:54:17] | iamlindoro: | It records multicast streams from an IPTV provider |
| [23:54:25] | abqjp: | iamlindoro: Heh, just because I am the *latest* person to touch that code ;-) |
| [23:54:41] | iamlindoro: | ie, from a cable company whose transmission method is IP rather than coax |
| [23:54:48] | iamlindoro: | abqjp, Still trust you with it more than anyone else ;) |
| [23:54:53] | mattwj2002: | okay |
| [23:55:22] | mattwj2002: | I am just so happy that I have a hdhomerun encoder |
| [23:55:23] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [23:55:35] | iamlindoro: | s/encoder/tuner/ |
| [23:55:46] | mattwj2002: | oh yeah |
| [23:55:50] | mattwj2002: | and a mythtv box |
| [23:55:51] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [23:55:58] | mattwj2002: | I finally set that up |
| [23:56:04] | mattwj2002: | only 100 GB of storage |
| [23:56:41] | mattwj2002: | but it is better than nothing |
| [23:56:42] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [23:57:17] | FinnTux: | abqjp, http://pastebin.com/iEpDVZGU |
| [23:57:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | mattwj2002: hehehe... I started out with 100GB (2x 50GB SCSI) ;-) like 6 years ago... doh! |
| [23:58:49] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [23:58:54] | wagnerrp: | 6 years ago? i was buying 200 and 250GB drives at that time |
| [23:59:04] | abqjp: | FinnTux: so, it is not even inside a loop? I would have no problem adding that — It should not harm any other tuner type. |
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