| Saturday, December 25th, 2010, 00:15 UTC | ||
| [00:15:25] | eyeoh: | http://asset.soup.io/asset/1347/9204_61ed.jpeg happy xmas |
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| [00:26:42] | adac: | Hi guys. Can anyone point me to a mythtv box. Should rund backen and frontend on one machine. Should be able to play full hd and should have (full) HD satelite tv card |
| [00:31:48] | Beirdo: | I like watching IRT: Deadliest Roads |
| [00:32:10] | Beirdo: | watching idiots driving in the Himalayan Mountains in India |
| [00:38:18] | kormoc: | adac, I like mac mini's personally |
| [00:38:38] | kormoc: | Beirdo, but but but they're canadian heros! Moose carry them from place to place in honor! |
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| [00:39:06] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:39:25] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's not the truck drivers in particular being idiots |
| [00:39:47] | Beirdo: | it's the people trying to drive around and through them |
| [00:41:14] | adac: | kormoc, I agree it seems to be a really cool box :) Do you have one? |
| [00:41:30] | kormoc: | I do |
| [00:41:55] | adac: | kormoc, do you use it as fronted only? |
| [00:42:14] | kormoc: | Nope. It's my frontend, backend, and mythweb box |
| [00:42:36] | kormoc: | I use external storage via usb to record to, and I use a HVPVR as my capture device, which is usb |
| [00:43:58] | adac: | kormoc, Oh i see! Is usb2.0 fast enough for hd? |
| [00:44:06] | adac: | 1080i |
| [00:44:10] | kormoc: | plenty |
| [00:44:14] | adac: | kk |
| [00:45:03] | kormoc: | digital streams are under 20 megabits per second, usb goes upto 480 megabits per second |
| [00:45:32] | adac: | kormoc, ok that should work then :) |
| [00:46:14] | adac: | kormoc, Whcih box would you consider to have mythtv hd frontend only? |
| [00:47:17] | kormoc: | if I was going to buy another box, it'd be another mini. It's powerful enough to run commflagging on/etc when not in use as a frontend and practically silent even under high load |
| [00:48:27] | adac: | kormoc, I understand. Yes the apple mini looks fantastic indeed. But is not that cheap of course ;) |
| [00:49:33] | kormoc: | true enough, but money well spent imho |
| [00:50:14] | kormoc: | another point is the mini has enough cpu power to play back things VDPAU can't handle, so I don't have to worry about what media I want to play when. it just works |
| [00:50:57] | adac: | kormoc, BUt you run linux on the box, right? |
| [00:51:04] | kormoc: | Yes, I do |
| [00:51:49] | adac: | Ah i understand VDPAU is the hd driver for nividia |
| [00:52:25] | kormoc: | Aye. So when I play h264 content, the cpu basically doesn't do anything |
| [00:53:19] | Beirdo: | just USB interrupts :) |
| [00:53:52] | adac: | kormoc, Ok what alternatives do i hvae on the HD PVR card? Are tehre any other cheaper solutions? |
| [00:54:26] | kormoc: | Not that I know of |
| [00:54:29] | adac: | Mean i just would need external tv card right? I wud not need a whole PVR, odr would I? |
| [00:55:12] | kormoc: | You need a cable box with a HDPVR, yes |
| [00:55:24] | kormoc: | (Cable or satellite box, aye) |
| [00:57:18] | adac: | kormoc,ok I see! |
| [00:57:38] | adac: | whcih configuration does your mac mini have? |
| [00:58:31] | adac: | Just saw that there are lots of configs: http://www.google.de/products?hl=de&q=mac . . . =0CEcQrQQwAg |
| [00:58:52] | kormoc: | Everything at defaults other then ram. I selected the 4 gigs ram upgrade |
| [00:59:26] | kormoc: | just make sure you get one with Nvidia graphics. Older ones had onboard intel graphics and those don't work too well |
| [00:59:51] | adac: | kormoc, kk! |
| [01:00:27] | adac: | kormoc, is Full HD memory expensive? |
| [01:01:35] | kormoc: | Not really. I use around 1.4 gigs of ram but I like having more available incase things change (themes that are more memory hungry, etc) |
| [01:02:37] | adac: | yeah right, having some memory unused is always a good idea |
| [01:02:38] | adac: | ;) |
| [01:04:39] | adac: | kormoc, so you remote control mythtv then via the HDPVR remote control? |
| [01:05:19] | adac: | i mean switching channels |
| [01:05:20] | kormoc: | I have a microsoft MCE USB remote combo that comes with a usb remote receiver |
| [01:05:35] | kormoc: | I use usb to control my satellite box |
| [01:06:29] | adac: | kormoc, ahh is one of those: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MCE_Remote i see |
| [01:06:48] | kormoc: | Aye |
| [01:09:37] | adac: | Cool thing! :) Ok I guess now I have all information I need.... Guess now I need to have a look at my bank account |
| [01:12:25] | kormoc: | G'luck |
| [01:12:42] | adac: | kormoc, thx a lot!! see you! |
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| [01:18:13] | allenmellon: | Apparently my mythweb is not working. The problem appears to lie within index.php on the Init line. Any help? |
| [01:19:39] | kormoc: | logs/messages are required to help |
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| [02:14:18] | eyeoh: | http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/fuzzypercentile percentile dice.. nice |
| [02:14:23] | eyeoh: | oops wrong win |
| [02:23:57] | Beirdo: | I'd rather have a pair of fuzzy d20s |
| [02:24:00] | Beirdo: | but still cool |
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| [04:00:36] | wagnerrp: | i think by the time you got to a d20, it would just be a fuzzy ball |
| [04:06:00] | kormoc: | pretty much http://j.mp/dMJ24l |
| [04:08:54] | Beirdo: | hehe, there we go |
| [04:10:02] | Beirdo: | leave to thinkgeek to actually have them |
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| [04:28:31] | wagnerrp: | WTF is 'Full HD memory'? |
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| [05:21:36] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, "Is decoding/playing full HD video use a lot of memory?" |
| [05:21:59] | kormoc: | %s/Is/Does/ |
| [05:22:34] | ** wagnerrp really hates the term 'Full HD' ** | |
| [05:22:54] | wagnerrp: | by the way, youve got a local boy on the mailing list to convince to stop using EIT |
| [05:23:18] | kormoc: | Sounds like a job for Super Sphery |
| [05:23:37] | wagnerrp: | complaining about bad data from KCTS |
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| [06:18:19] | wagnerrp: | woot is down? bet they had a bag of crap |
| [06:18:28] | wagnerrp: | should have figured they would do such a thing... |
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| [07:26:56] | Beirdo: | yay, no more crypt in havokmud |
| [07:27:54] | Beirdo: | now using the exact same MD5 digest as htdigest |
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| [08:44:19] | ubuntu_: | hello anyone here? |
| [08:45:54] | kormoc: | Wow! A talking distro! |
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| [09:08:21] | Beirdo: | hahah |
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| [09:58:38] | lyricnz: | Gidday all |
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| [10:28:29] | antgel: | hi all, i'm trying to build mythtv 0.24, and i get lots of segfaults and "double free or corruption" |
| [10:28:32] | antgel: | is this looking like a memory problem? should i run memtest86 as a first step? |
| [10:29:41] | antgel: | when the compile crashes, i can sometimes run make again and it stumbles on for a bit then crashes again |
| [10:29:47] | antgel: | or could it be a cpu problem? |
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| [10:49:04] | lyricnz: | crashes building, or running the final product? |
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| [10:49:47] | antgel: | lyricnz: crashes while building |
| [10:49:50] | lyricnz: | compiling. sounds like system instability of some kind. memory or cpu most likely. |
| [10:49:55] | antgel: | 12:29 antgel> when the compile crashes, |
| [10:50:32] | antgel: | lyricnz: well, yes, but where do i go from here? i thought of running memtest86+ first, but i'm not sure if it's reliable. and as for debugging cpu problems, i'm clueless |
| [10:50:42] | antgel: | perhaps it's a case of swapping bits around |
| [10:50:56] | ** antgel has a brainwave ** | |
| [10:50:56] | lyricnz: | I haven't found memtest86 to be super useful. |
| [10:51:06] | lyricnz: | If you have a divisible memory unit, try removing half |
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| [10:51:13] | lyricnz: | then compile. if works, try swapping |
| [10:51:19] | lyricnz: | that will narrow down faulty bank at least |
| [10:51:21] | antgel: | i have an identical box here that i use as a slave, i could swap the ram |
| [10:51:26] | lyricnz: | or that |
| [10:51:31] | antgel: | lyricnz: ISTR that i need two sticks |
| [10:51:39] | antgel: | but that could just be to get it to run faster |
| [10:51:54] | lyricnz: | depends on your mb |
| [10:52:02] | antgel: | okay, so that's my starting point – compile fails regularly, so it should be pretty obvious if it's the RAM |
| [10:52:11] | ** antgel has never had a faulty CPU in his life ** | |
| [10:52:20] | lyricnz: | ram would be my guess, but it could be overheating or something |
| [10:52:27] | antgel: | M3N78-EM FWIW |
| [10:52:54] | antgel: | running nice and cool (tm zalman) |
| [10:53:25] | lyricnz: | try the memory swap then. |
| [10:53:35] | antgel: | lyricnz: will do, thanks for helping me brainstorm :) |
| [10:53:54] | lyricnz: | heh |
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| [11:10:32] | Cervera: | Hello, I'm trying to use the video browser feature... in the settings it's pointed to /var/lib/mythtv/videos, but it doesn't display the videos I copy to that folder... what am I doing wrong? |
| [11:13:14] | Cervera: | Oh, and erry christmas BTW |
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| [12:08:28] | antgel: | lyricnz: so weird *both* machines had segfaults when compiling. pulled a stick out of each, and looks okay on both. what chance there being a faulty stick in each machine? |
| [12:08:34] | antgel: | crucial ballistix FWIW |
| [12:09:06] | antgel: | i wonder if this is some more obscure issue (e.g. motherboard crapping out when using two sticks in dual-channel mode). i'll swap the sticks to see |
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| [13:26:06] | trumee: | my freeview is really blocky :( |
| [13:26:30] | trumee: | i get these in the stream, [mpeg2video @ 0x7fc95c7786c0]00 motion_type at 11 30 |
| [13:26:42] | trumee: | ac-tex damaged |
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| [13:28:04] | lyricnz: | antgel: yeah, wierd |
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| [13:34:11] | ** lyricnz was just recording 5 channels at once. Hahah, cool. ** | |
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| [13:39:53] | frankjh: | Hi I am trying setting up a new DLNA player. How/where do I specify the value of VideoStartupDir for mythtv UPnP server? Currently the client finds zero files. |
| [13:42:08] | tank-man: | frankjh, did you look through the settings from the frontend? |
| [13:44:31] | frankjh: | Hi tank-man, I tried at least, but did not find this. |
| [13:46:28] | tank-man: | from my frontend, i pick "Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> Media Settings -> Video Settings -> General Settings -> Directories that hold videos" |
| [13:47:13] | frankjh: | tank-man: I think I do not have Video Settings there. Only 'Music' let me check again. |
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| [13:50:35] | frankjh: | tank-man: Yes 'Video Setting' is not there. I have 'Musikeinstellung' which is probably 'music settings' |
| [13:51:07] | frankjh: | tank-man: So I miss some plugin for Upnp? |
| [13:51:15] | tank-man: | i have a older version of mythtv, maybe things have moved around |
| [13:51:24] | tank-man: | i don't think you need a plugin for that |
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| [13:53:17] | frankjh: | tank-man: Do you have mythvideo installed? |
| [13:53:30] | tank-man: | oh yea, that is the plugin |
| [13:53:32] | tank-man: | mythvideo |
| [13:53:37] | tank-man: | yes i have it installed |
| [13:54:41] | tank-man: | frankjh, do you have mythvideo installed? |
| [13:55:18] | frankjh: | tank-man: Soon! :) |
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| [14:11:11] | frankjh: | tank-man: mythvideo provided the missing config dialog. I have now 'files' visible on my upnp client. |
| [14:12:03] | frankjh: | The files have strange names like 29481_20071024230018.mpg |
| [14:13:12] | frankjh: | Is this a player or server issue? Or is it as good as it can get with DLNA? |
| [14:13:58] | tank-man: | that file name looks like a recording |
| [14:14:14] | frankjh: | Yes these are my recordings. |
| [14:14:54] | tank-man: | so without mythvideo, you couldn't even see your recordings? |
| [14:16:09] | tank-man: | my recordings show up on my upnp client as sorted by date or title and have proper names |
| [14:16:15] | frankjh: | Yes mythbackend --upnprebuild said it would skip the scan because VideoStartupDir was not defined |
| [14:17:19] | frankjh: | I set VideoStartupDir to /var/lib/mythtv |
| [14:17:41] | tank-man: | i dont recall using this video start up dir setting |
| [14:18:15] | frankjh: | Maybe I am trying it the wrong way. |
| [14:19:30] | frankjh: | I would like to have titles too! |
| [14:19:56] | tank-man: | from this link http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UPnP it says you need to set videostartupdir if the frontend and backend are on different machines |
| [14:20:07] | tank-man: | i have my backend and frontend on same machine |
| [14:20:58] | tank-man: | and the same link, says upnp server should be work with no configuration |
| [14:21:36] | tank-man: | or maybe taht is no configuration on the client side |
| [14:22:24] | frankjh: | yes, but it did not do it. The server did not offer any recordings. |
| [14:23:09] | frankjh: | And manually doing mythbackend --upnprebuild complained on empty VideoStartupDir |
| [14:23:34] | frankjh: | I have frontend and backend on same machine too. |
| [14:25:16] | frankjh: | I have to run now. Many thanks for your help! Have a nice christmas. |
| [14:26:02] | tank-man: | take care |
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| [16:01:04] | JEDIDIAH__: | the raw filename for the recordings aren't human readable. They're stuff like 29481_20071024230018.mpg |
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| [16:04:37] | wagnerrp: | thats human readable |
| [16:04:55] | wagnerrp: | recorded on digital channel 48_1, on source 29 |
| [16:05:10] | wagnerrp: | at 11pm, october 24, 2007 |
| [16:05:12] | JEDIDIAH__: | no, you're just being contrary like a 4 year old. |
| [16:06:08] | wagnerrp: | it just doesnt have the show name, because show names cannot be used if you want a consistent scheme |
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| [16:08:14] | wagnerrp: | frankjh: you shouldnt be able to see those names over upnp |
| [16:08:25] | wagnerrp: | the upnp server should provide meaningful names built off the metadata |
| [16:08:54] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like you instead pointed the old mythvideo configurations still used by the upnp server at your recordings path |
| [16:09:25] | wagnerrp: | no matter, you left two hours ago... |
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| [16:17:48] | ubuntu_: | anyone want to help someone build a raid5? |
| [16:18:02] | ubuntu_: | I have (3) WD 2TB Greens |
| [16:19:12] | ubuntu_: | I also have another disk WD 1TB which I will be using as the OS/recordings hdd.. I would like to use LVM on this device as to add HDD space later.. considering adding a 500G I already have to it once its formated and the data is copied off |
| [16:20:17] | wagnerrp: | why would you use LVM to add storage? |
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| [16:20:54] | ubuntu_: | just to make it appear as one drive |
| [16:21:03] | ubuntu_: | simplicity.. |
| [16:21:03] | wagnerrp: | why does it need to appear as one drive? |
| [16:21:22] | ubuntu_: | doesn't really need to, is there a draw back to doing it via LVM? |
| [16:21:23] | wagnerrp: | simplicity is to have multiple independent drives, and let mythtv and storage groups load balance between them |
| [16:21:48] | wagnerrp: | that way, you dont get the fragmentation issues from recording multiple simultaneous shows to a single partition |
| [16:22:02] | wagnerrp: | and you dont get the reliability issues that losing one drive in an LVM takes out the /whole thing/ |
| [16:22:03] | ubuntu_: | would you expect better performance this way |
| [16:22:04] | ubuntu_: | ok |
| [16:22:20] | ubuntu_: | hmm I like your points.. |
| [16:22:34] | ubuntu_: | but if I lose the 1TB I'll still be losing my OS :-\ |
| [16:23:15] | wagnerrp: | so partition off the first 20GB of both drives |
| [16:23:19] | ubuntu_: | have you ever used an SSD for os? |
| [16:23:20] | wagnerrp: | and set it up as an mdadm mirror |
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| [16:23:43] | wagnerrp: | as long as you have sufficient memory, an SSD for an OS is only going to help on boot |
| [16:23:43] | ubuntu_: | will that mirror remain bootable? |
| [16:23:59] | wagnerrp: | after that, everything you are going to use for normal purposes will remain cached in memory |
| [16:24:12] | wagnerrp: | the only thing an SSD would really help with as far as mythtv is concerned is the database |
| [16:24:23] | wagnerrp: | and theres not enough access to that to warrant the cost of one |
| [16:24:35] | wagnerrp: | especially if you keep your storage and OS disk separate |
| [16:24:35] | ubuntu_: | yeah kind of what i figured |
| [16:24:43] | ubuntu_: | brb c-rolls |
| [16:25:08] | wagnerrp: | MDADM arrays will not be bootable |
| [16:25:16] | wagnerrp: | but for a mirror, either disk in the array will be bootable |
| [16:25:21] | wagnerrp: | and the disk is read only on boot |
| [16:25:49] | wagnerrp: | so you boot off one disk far enough to load the kernel |
| [16:25:59] | wagnerrp: | and the kernel sets up the array and pivots onto it |
| [16:26:44] | wagnerrp: | if you set it up right, your OS partition and MBR will be mirrored, and the system can boot off either disk |
| [16:28:46] | ubuntu_: | i like the sound of that |
| [16:30:06] | ubuntu_: | so another question, going back to the raid5 config.. if i set this raid5 up via liveCD how hard will it be to get it back once I pull all the data off my 1TB, wipe it, and install linux to it? |
| [16:32:05] | ubuntu_: | Also, has anyone in here heard anything about the HDhomerun Prime? |
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| [16:36:48] | ubuntu_: | wagnerrp, is it possible to add a disk to a raid5 array down the road? |
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| [16:56:45] | ubuntu_: | which format would you gents say is the best for network storage space.. it'll be housing my movies, music, pictures, etc |
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| [16:59:17] | tank-man: | i think most people use nfs |
| [16:59:33] | ubuntu_: | any reasoning as to why? |
| [17:00:00] | ubuntu_: | i had considered xfs but my drives are already in ext4 |
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| [17:21:44] | ubuntu_: | dear lord it takes a long time to rebuild a 4tb raid5 lol |
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| [17:25:22] | Cervera: | Hello, I'm trying to use the video browser feature... in the settings it's pointed to /var/lib/mythtv/videos, but it doesn't display the videos I copy to that folder... what am I doing wrong? |
| [17:27:34] | ubuntu_: | Cervera, u still there? |
| [17:27:41] | Cervera: | yup :P |
| [17:27:46] | ubuntu_: | i think you have to press 'w' or something like that |
| [17:27:53] | ubuntu_: | it doesn't automatically scan like it used to |
| [17:28:08] | Cervera: | i'll give it a try... |
| [17:28:10] | ubuntu_: | maybe 'm' and navigate to scan for changes |
| [17:28:52] | Cervera: | great! |
| [17:28:57] | ubuntu_: | i remember spending hours trying to play with permissions to figure out why mine wasn't seeing them either and it was just a scan issue |
| [17:28:58] | Cervera: | thanks! works like a charm |
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| [17:29:05] | ubuntu_: | was it 'w' or 'm'? |
| [17:29:27] | Cervera: | it was m for the menu and then scan for changes! |
| [17:29:43] | ubuntu_: | alright, glad i could help =) |
| [17:29:52] | Cervera: | i knew it was a scan issue, but didn't know the solution was so easy |
| [17:30:00] | ubuntu_: | haha |
| [17:30:14] | ubuntu_: | typically is the easy solution.. just have to know how to get there lol |
| [17:30:25] | Cervera: | now – subtitles, you know if there's support for them? |
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| [17:30:38] | ubuntu_: | i would almost assume so but I'm not sure |
| [17:30:53] | ubuntu_: | i would assume that'd be a setting within the video player itself |
| [17:30:57] | Cervera: | BBL for this question tho... |
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| [17:31:15] | ubuntu_: | not a clue |
| [17:31:37] | ubuntu_: | g's.. so i just built this new server and have (3) 2tb's for storage.. raid5 |
| [17:31:44] | ubuntu_: | its taking FOREVER to build this raid5 lol |
| [17:32:04] | ubuntu_: | finish=773.5min |
| [17:32:05] | ubuntu_: | :( |
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| [17:32:32] | ubuntu_: | wonder if it wouldn't be faster just to reformat the whole thing |
| [17:32:42] | ubuntu_: | or would it still have to recover on top of that |
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| [17:40:52] | Cervera: | what is the command line to start the front-end? |
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| [17:43:07] | ubuntu_: | mythfrontend.real |
| [17:43:22] | ubuntu_: | Cervera, ^ |
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| [17:56:05] | darkdrgn2k3: | hey guys, |
| [17:56:17] | darkdrgn2k3: | question, the movie info download scripts.. there is no way to get them in include the year of the movie |
| [17:56:36] | darkdrgn2k3: | (somtimes you get like a list of movies (like christmas charol) and dont know which one is the right one) |
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| [18:09:04] | ubuntu_: | so how long do you gents expect it to take for me to fill 2TB of network storage space? |
| [18:09:13] | ubuntu_: | 4TB* |
| [18:10:34] | darkdrgn2k3: | took me under a week for 2.5... |
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| [18:13:57] | ubuntu_: | thats disappointing lol |
| [18:14:12] | ubuntu_: | I just bought (3) WD 2TB greens |
| [18:14:22] | ubuntu_: | in the process of building the raid now.. |
| [18:14:25] | darkdrgn2k3: | raid5? |
| [18:14:29] | ubuntu_: | yup sir |
| [18:14:33] | darkdrgn2k3: | soft? |
| [18:14:42] | ubuntu_: | yup |
| [18:15:00] | ubuntu_: | its been running for probably an hour and its only at 10% |
| [18:15:08] | darkdrgn2k3: | lol |
| [18:15:13] | ubuntu_: | yeah.. lol |
| [18:15:25] | darkdrgn2k3: | yeh i dont thnk i got room for a raid in the htpc box.. |
| [18:15:34] | darkdrgn2k3: | so i think ill build a closte server that rsyncs nightly.. |
| [18:15:42] | ubuntu_: | yeah |
| [18:15:42] | darkdrgn2k3: | htpc has a 1.5 and a 1 in there |
| [18:15:46] | darkdrgn2k3: | (soon 1 will become a 1.5) |
| [18:16:03] | darkdrgn2k3: | dam hd movies tkae up to much room |
| [18:16:27] | ubuntu_: | i have the (3) 2TBs + (1) 1TB for recordings.. thinking about adding another 500G for recordings and mirror'd os partition |
| [18:16:50] | darkdrgn2k3: | yeh.. i cant do recordings anymore... |
| [18:16:53] | ubuntu_: | i'll make both the dmadm mirrors bootable so if one fails i can boot off the other |
| [18:17:07] | darkdrgn2k3: | dam box doenst like the ir blaster to much. never changes right |
| [18:17:18] | darkdrgn2k3: | ubuntu_: why dont you make the boot drive a flashkey :-P |
| [18:17:21] | ubuntu_: | well the recordings aren't backed up.. just music/movies |
| [18:17:36] | ubuntu_: | flashkey? |
| [18:17:37] | ubuntu_: | lol |
| [18:17:45] | darkdrgn2k3: | falsh drive.. thumb drive. flash memory |
| [18:17:46] | darkdrgn2k3: | w/e :-P |
| [18:18:03] | darkdrgn2k3: | one of my boxes i put a COMAQ FLASH to IDE adapter in :-P 2 gig boot flash drive |
| [18:18:04] | ubuntu_: | lol |
| [18:18:20] | ubuntu_: | i'd considered using a CF card .. |
| [18:18:21] | ubuntu_: | lol |
| [18:18:33] | ubuntu_: | i've got 3 of them for my D200 lol |
| [18:18:35] | darkdrgn2k3: | acutlay the settop box in my bedroom has NO harddrive in it :)pxe boots |
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| [18:18:50] | ubuntu_: | yeah |
| [18:19:03] | ubuntu_: | i'll probably do ssd for my bedroom box |
| [18:19:13] | ubuntu_: | in the process of redoing all of my myth setup |
| [18:19:15] | darkdrgn2k3: | but im pissed.. the dam LIRC module keeps crashign in myth |
| [18:19:22] | darkdrgn2k3: | [root@mythSRV ~]# rmmod lirc_mceusb <- that just froze on me |
| [18:19:31] | ubuntu_: | strange |
| [18:19:34] | ubuntu_: | 10.10? |
| [18:19:41] | darkdrgn2k3: | fedora |
| [18:19:44] | ubuntu_: | ohh |
| [18:19:54] | darkdrgn2k3: | used to work no problem |
| [18:20:11] | darkdrgn2k3: | thast why i think its a myth problem but.. |
| [18:20:14] | ubuntu_: | i can finally watch BBC's LIFE in 1080p lol |
| [18:20:15] | darkdrgn2k3: | thast what you get for running trunk |
| [18:20:20] | ubuntu_: | finally have a pc that can handle it |
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| [18:21:15] | ubuntu_: | i'm impressed this mobo has the ATI 4250HD in it and w/ the default linux driver its able to handle 1080p-ish |
| [18:22:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | ubuntu_: it's your cpu doing all the work with that ATI card... |
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| [18:24:00] | ubuntu_: | doesn't appear to be |
| [18:24:10] | ubuntu_: | maybe |
| [18:24:16] | ubuntu_: | cpu usage does seem to have spiked |
| [18:24:47] | ubuntu_: | i'm going to install the ATI driver once I get off this liveCD |
| [18:25:06] | ubuntu_: | just building my raid and pulling data off my 1TB |
| [18:25:10] | darkdrgn2k3: | is it me or is gagabit faster then usb? |
| [18:25:37] | ubuntu_: | thats been my experience |
| [18:25:47] | ubuntu_: | usb 2.0 that is ;) |
| [18:25:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | darkdrgn2k3: Umm... Gee... 1,000,000,000 bps vs 480,000,000bps.... Yeah, Gbe would be faster... like 2x faster |
| [18:25:53] | ubuntu_: | 3.0 should have it barried |
| [18:26:20] | ubuntu_: | Gbe is not 1,000,000,000 stable tho .. maybe peak but def not av |
| [18:26:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | yeah, 3.0 is 5Gbps, but maybe the devices aren't able to handle that speed yet... |
| [18:26:34] | darkdrgn2k3: | J-e-f-f-A: LOL i know.. but with overhead and stuff... |
| [18:26:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | well, the same could be said for USB... |
| [18:26:45] | ubuntu_: | yeah tru |
| [18:28:05] | darkdrgn2k3: | hey, does myth support mkv chapters yet? |
| [18:30:07] | ubuntu_: | believe so |
| [18:30:21] | darkdrgn2k3: | cause skip never seems to work for me :-S |
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| [18:34:51] | ubuntu_: | just want you to know.. BBC Life in 1080p is amazing |
| [18:34:52] | ubuntu_: | lol |
| [18:35:44] | eyeoh: | :) |
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| [18:38:26] | yates: | can mythtv utilize a bluray dvdplayer to play bluray dvds? |
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| [18:39:18] | ubuntu_: | that I do not know.. i know you could rip it then play it |
| [18:39:31] | yates: | ubuntu_: how would you rip it? |
| [18:39:57] | sphery: | yates: you mean a bluray drive in a computer? |
| [18:39:59] | ubuntu_: | i don't remember what software my roommate uses |
| [18:40:03] | ubuntu_: | yes |
| [18:40:22] | ubuntu_: | he has an optical bluray drive in his laptop.. then he throws the rip up onto the network |
| [18:40:35] | yates: | i thought they are encoded |
| [18:40:38] | sphery: | yates: if yes, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Bluray |
| [18:40:49] | yates: | sphery: yes. :) |
| [18:41:08] | sphery: | and note that all legal issues are your own responsibility |
| [18:41:45] | ubuntu_: | haha |
| [18:42:19] | ubuntu_: | you just want to have a copy of your dvd in case of a burglary right? ;) |
| [18:43:23] | yates: | sphery, ubuntu_: actually i'd just as soon keep it on the disc and be able to play it back directly from the drive |
| [18:43:54] | yates: | is that possible? |
| [18:43:56] | ubuntu_: | yeah i know, i'm in about the same boat |
| [18:43:57] | sphery: | that will work only with some discs, using a library that may be a federal felony offense to use, depending on your local laws |
| [18:43:58] | yates: | under mythtv? |
| [18:44:10] | yates: | oh |
| [18:44:10] | sphery: | read the page I linked |
| [18:44:13] | sphery: | it has all the info |
| [18:44:25] | sphery: | except info on local laws, such as the DMCA :) |
| [18:44:40] | ubuntu_: | anyone have any intel on the HDhomerun Prime? |
| [18:44:41] | yates: | sphery: well you answered yes, which is a contradiction to the first paragraph of the Overview of that link |
| [18:45:08] | yates: | "While it is currently impossible to place a HD-DVD disk in the drive and play it with MythTV"... |
| [18:45:15] | sphery: | HD-DVD != BluRay |
| [18:45:28] | sphery: | HD-DVD = dead format that some people buy because they can get them cheap |
| [18:45:35] | ubuntu_: | ohh... he's good yates, he's good lol |
| [18:45:36] | sphery: | keep reading |
| [18:46:30] | sphery: | all the info is there, but it's not necessarily user-friendly/presented in the most comprehensible manner :) |
| [18:46:31] | ubuntu_: | i cannot believe how well this thing is playing 1080p |
| [18:46:48] | ubuntu_: | i'm running the default linux driver so the CPU is doing most of the work yes? |
| [18:47:05] | yates: | sphery: are you referring to "watching with the internal player" section? |
| [18:47:13] | yates: | "With TrueHD/MLP and E-AC-3 support in ffmpeg, Myth has gained full out-of-the-box support of playback for these files as of version 0.22. As of MythTV .24, the internal player is capable of playing Blu-ray disc structures both directly from the disc and from the folder structure on a hard drive." |
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| [18:47:21] | sphery: | yates: that's part of it |
| [18:47:32] | sphery: | just read the page |
| [18:47:52] | yates: | i'm not going to read a whole damned dissertaion to get the answer to a single question |
| [18:48:08] | sphery: | well, I'm not going to read it to you ;) |
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| [18:48:25] | sphery: | the page is short, even |
| [18:48:34] | ubuntu_: | yates, dont be lazy lol |
| [18:48:36] | sphery: | especially if you skip all the "how to install every ripping progam known to man" |
| [18:49:19] | yates: | what a pita |
| [18:50:07] | ubuntu_: | my raid has been going for hours now and is only 12% complete :( |
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| [18:51:46] | yates: | can a Windows 7 user play blurays directly ? |
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| [18:52:06] | yates: | including menus, etc., i.e., full support? |
| [18:52:14] | ubuntu_: | i believe so |
| [18:53:04] | yates: | so if i loaded myth under win7 i'd be good? |
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| [18:54:12] | yates: | also, is there any ability to do the netflix streaming stuff from mythtv/linux? |
| [18:55:03] | yates: | oh, yeah, Merry Creesmos |
| [18:55:24] | yates: | "Silence, I Kill You!" |
| [18:55:41] | high-rez: | no, netflix is all silverlight. They sold out to being Microsoft specific. |
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| [18:56:23] | yates: | high-rez: that's enough to make me cancel my netflix! |
| [18:56:34] | yates: | $%%holes |
| [18:56:47] | yates: | @$$holes |
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| [18:57:20] | high-rez: | I believe they used to be flash and would thus were very portable. |
| [18:58:36] | yates: | has the fedora myth stayed up-to-date with the latest myth? |
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| [18:59:24] | yates: | prolly not |
| [18:59:49] | yates: | fedora 13 has 0.24 of frontend |
| [19:00:36] | yates: | high-rez: bloodpressure raiser, for sure |
| [19:00:52] | yates: | is there a list of recommended tv cards to use with myth? |
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| [19:03:50] | russell5: | does anyone use a dinovo mini? |
| [19:03:59] | kormoc: | yates, linuxtv.org |
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| [19:07:51] | trumee: | I dont understand why i am getting this error, tda1004x: found firmware revision 0 — invalid, tda1004x: waiting for firmware upload..., tda1004x: timeout waiting for DSP ready, tda1004x: firmware upload failed |
| [19:08:10] | trumee: | i do have firmware ls /lib/firmware/dvb-fe-tda1004* -la |
| [19:08:22] | trumee: | /lib/firmware/dvb-fe-tda10045.fw |
| [19:08:29] | trumee: | /lib/firmware/dvb-fe-tda10046.fw |
| [19:08:49] | trumee: | DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (Philips TDA10046H DVB-T) |
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| [19:16:24] | ubuntu_: | i am running out of things to do to kill time while my raid builds |
| [19:16:27] | ubuntu_: | any ideas? |
| [19:16:45] | yates: | ubuntu_: pick nose hairs? |
| [19:16:53] | yates: | s/pick/pluck/ |
| [19:16:58] | ubuntu_: | done it.. |
| [19:16:59] | ubuntu_: | lol |
| [19:17:06] | yates: | clean lint out of navel? |
| [19:17:34] | yates: | study the fundamental theorem of algebra and galois field theories 5 axioms? |
| [19:17:44] | kormoc: | I would imagine a talking distro could go join the circus |
| [19:18:06] | ubuntu_: | haha |
| [19:18:16] | yates: | contemplate eschewing obfuscation |
| [19:18:25] | ubuntu_: | think its a bad idea for me to be building my raid off of a livecd? |
| [19:18:27] | ubuntu_: | :-\ |
| [19:19:04] | ubuntu_: | I should be able to carry the dmadm.conf file w/ me to the new os once I have my 1TB drive cleared and os installed tho correct? |
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| [19:21:29] | yates: | where is audio output (e.g., to a receiver) typically taken in a mythtv 5.1 system – from the tv card, from the sound card, from a SPDIF output, or what? |
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| [19:25:25] | yates: | hokay, thanks people |
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| [19:36:10] | trumee: | mythtv 0.24 is really unstable! |
| [19:36:26] | trumee: | crashes on me all the time when changing channels. |
| [19:36:56] | trumee: | why?? http://www.pastie.org/1405262 |
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| [20:21:04] | Cervera: | ubuntu_: thanks for the second help a couple of hours ago |
| [20:22:24] | Cervera: | does anyone know if there's support for subtitle files for mythtv (divx / xvid videos) srt / sub ...? |
| [20:23:42] | russell5: | yeah if its named the same name |
| [20:23:46] | russell5: | i use .srt all the time |
| [20:23:53] | russell5: | same folder with same name |
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| [20:24:23] | Cervera: | yeah, tried that.... we're talking about video browser right? |
| [20:24:35] | russell5: | yeah using mythvideo |
| [20:24:52] | Cervera: | hmm... i'll double check |
| [20:26:25] | Cervera: | well, i've got them both in the same folder one .avi and the other .srt |
| [20:26:34] | Cervera: | but doesn't work... |
| [20:27:01] | Cervera: | any ideas? maybe some setting somewhere? |
| [20:27:35] | russell5: | did you go into menu and turn subtitle on when playing the file |
| [20:27:50] | Cervera: | no :( |
| [20:27:56] | Cervera: | heh, just one sec |
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| [20:29:13] | russell5: | theres a way to have it auto do subs but i forget where the setting is |
| [20:29:58] | Cervera: | the menu that pops up while playing the movie doesn't have a subtitle option |
| [20:31:08] | russell5: | third option down on mine. |
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| [20:41:13] | Cervera: | hmm, well, filenames are exact, .avi .srt no subtitle recognition. |
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| [20:45:04] | russell5: | sorry i am not sure what else it could be |
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| [22:43:12] | antgel: | hi all. am in process of 0.22>0.24. using git. er, where has mythweb gone? |
| [22:43:40] | antgel: | find -name '*mythweb*' reports nothing |
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| [22:51:16] | JEDIDIAH__: | it's right there in the plugins package like it's always been. |
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| [22:53:11] | antgel: | ah, i see i need to git clone -b fixes/0.24 git://github.com/MythTV/mythweb.git (after browsing to https://github.com/MythTV) |
| [22:53:19] | antgel: | (for inspiration) |
| [22:53:30] | antgel: | JEDIDIAH__: i don't think so, are you working with git? |
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| [22:56:47] | wagnerrp: | no, git has been moved to its own repository |
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| [22:59:04] | antgel: | wagnerrp: can i suggest a change to the text on http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ to let users know that mythweb and myththemes are in separate repos? |
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| [23:00:21] | wagnerrp: | technically, myththemes is due for removal |
| [23:00:32] | wagnerrp: | or at least that will only be used for development, not for production |
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| [23:04:44] | antgel: | wagnerrp: ah, do i not need myththemes in 0.24? |
| [23:06:12] | wagnerrp: | i believe you should be able to download them through the theme browser |
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| [23:14:28] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: theme nbrowser diesnt download any new ones on my install |
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| [23:29:33] | wagnerrp: | there should be a menu option to 'grab list of downloadable themes' or something like that |
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| [23:34:17] | Shadow__X: | maybe its just that the list is small |
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| [23:40:31] | iamlindoro: | Have you looked in the context menu? |
| [23:40:46] | iamlindoro: | ie, the option that reads "View downloadable themes?" |
| [23:44:22] | Shadow__X: | iamlindoro: yup but it would appear i wrongfully thought the assorted themes on the wiki would be available |
| [23:44:42] | iamlindoro: | only the themes which are compatible with your version will be available |
| [23:44:53] | iamlindoro: | which ones are you seeing on the wiki which are not available in the downloader? |
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| [23:49:04] | antgel: | oh crap. lots of "Video is 4.48257 frames behind audio (too slow), dropping frame to catch up.", both on HD and SD (DVB-T UK). worked on 0.22 fine with VDPAU – now 0.24 giving me a problem |
| [23:49:17] | antgel: | where to start debugging? NB also gone from debian lenny to squeeze |
| [23:49:21] | antgel: | (if that matters) |
| [23:49:24] | antgel: | any tips? |
| [23:50:14] | sphery: | I think that only the themes in the MythTV myththemes package were made available to 0.24-fixes, so far: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 65470#465470 |
| [23:50:28] | antgel: | (VDPAU slim by the way) |
| [23:50:33] | Shadow__X: | iamlindoro: the blue abstract theme |
| [23:50:39] | iamlindoro: | Shadow__X, Is available in the downloads |
| [23:50:42] | sphery: | I don't know his plan, but Captain_Murdoch is planning to verify compatibility before putting others in 0.24-fixes |
| [23:50:50] | iamlindoro: | Shadow__X, in both the .24 and trunk downloader |
| [23:50:53] | ** antgel reads http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU#Troubleshooting ** | |
| [23:51:15] | iamlindoro: | (At least, it was in the downloads before .24 even came out) |
| [23:51:24] | iamlindoro: | but maybe it got pulled for some reason |
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| [23:52:15] | wagnerrp: | i wonder how difficult it would be to split out MainServer into a library, and create a new mythfileserver for just storage group access for tunerless slaves |
| [23:52:32] | Shadow__X: | iam right but, is it supposed to be available in the theme chooser? because for mine it isnt |
| [23:52:39] | sphery: | wagnerrp: that's part of the backend split plan |
| [23:52:46] | iamlindoro: | Shadow__X, The theme chooser *is* the downloader |
| [23:53:06] | wagnerrp: | i mean right now, since im already trying to allow modular handlers |
| [23:53:14] | iamlindoro: | Even before .24 blue-abstract was present in the downloader/chooser |
| [23:53:21] | sphery: | I think we should just do the splitting :) |
| [23:53:24] | iamlindoro: | it's possible it hasn't been approved to .24, but it's certainly in the downloader |
| [23:53:56] | Shadow__X: | yeah when do menu show downloadable themes i dont see blue abstract |
| [23:55:17] | Shadow__X: | am i doint something wrong then? |
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| [23:55:44] | iamlindoro: | There's not much for you to do, sounds like it's not approved for .24 |
| [23:56:24] | Shadow__X: | oh ok thanks. i wanted to make sure it wasn't me doing something wrong |
| [23:57:05] | sphery: | should be added/approved "soon" |
| [23:57:21] | sphery: | the process is still being defined, though |
| [23:57:23] | sphery: | so taking a bit |
| [23:57:36] | Shadow__X: | btw thanks for your awesome themes. The other day i was showing someone mythtv and when they saw the graphite theme. They where pretty impressed |
| [23:57:53] | Shadow__X: | oh ok thanks for the heads up |
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