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[01:00:39] acidfreeze: could someone please help. I am trying to get mythweb working but keep having issues. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/296485/ <--- my conf
[01:01:12] [R]: good luck with taht
[01:01:13] [R]: lol
[01:01:17] acidfreeze: i went by instructions and still getting file not found on my videos
[01:01:25] acidfreeze: ]i know it is mod rewrite issue
[01:01:36] acidfreeze: what do you say that? lighttpd?>
[01:01:41] [R]: yup
[01:01:56] acidfreeze: i figured i have apache to but the doc i went by was pro lighttpd
[01:02:18] acidfreeze: alright if i switch to apache do you think you could help?
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[01:07:38] [R]: if you use apache
[01:07:41] [R]: theres no problems
[01:12:36] acidfreeze: hah.. funny on mythtv wiki it has howto on lighttpd and jetty
[01:12:53] acidfreeze: why no apache?
[01:13:24] [R]: cuz it jsut works
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[01:15:25] acidfreeze: im sure it requires mod rewrite.. which even in htaccee still requires alittle config
[01:15:37] acidfreeze: alright setting up apache.. we will see
[01:22:32] Beirdo: wagnerrp: this was a fun thing to add. hehe
[01:22:43] Beirdo: gotta test it now. Recompiling on the devel box
[01:23:30] Beirdo: needed a signal from the IO thread (read thread in particular), and then to relay that through the MythSystem instance back to the calling object
[01:25:46] wagnerrp: Beirdo: whats that?
[01:25:57] wagnerrp: oh, the signal;
[01:26:20] Beirdo: yeah the "dataReady" signal
[01:26:47] Beirdo: and I had to add a map for fd -> stdout/stderr so I can inform the caller which has data
[01:26:50] Beirdo: bleh
[01:26:51] Beirdo: heh
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[02:02:58] biffhero: wagnerrp: yt?
[02:03:38] wagnerrp: ?
[02:03:50] biffhero: mythvidexport (Errored: Fri Nov 26, 2010, 05:53 PM)
[02:03:50] biffhero: ERROR: Could not find setting 'mythvideo.TVGrabber' on host 'backendhost' <<< this was for version .6.2 of the mythvidexport.py script.
[02:04:06] wagnerrp: youre running 0.23?
[02:04:19] Beirdo: QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (-1), must be greater than 0
[02:04:22] Beirdo: BOOM
[02:04:23] Beirdo: heh
[02:04:29] biffhero: self.TVgrab = VideoGrabber('TV') <<< line 91. yes, still 0.23
[02:04:34] Beirdo: mythmusic is so borked
[02:04:46] wagnerrp: have you set up mythvideo on your backend?
[02:05:52] biffhero: hrm. that question confuses me. my backend does the grabbing from a comcast cable box...
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[02:06:16] wagnerrp: i dont know whats confusing about that question
[02:06:59] biffhero: Yeah, it's my fault. I do have "watch videos" available on my front ends, and can watch movies and stuff on my front ends.
[02:07:17] biffhero: I am reading http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo now, and yes, I have mythvideo.
[02:07:32] wagnerrp: have you configured it on your backend?
[02:07:43] biffhero: but it might be only set up on my front end. probably not.
[02:07:50] wagnerrp: grabber settings are stored per-host
[02:08:05] wagnerrp: you must run through the grabber setup on your backend once to get it to define grabbers for that host
[02:08:24] wagnerrp: the grabber support in the 0.23 bindings will not work without those settings being defined
[02:08:45] biffhero: ok, will do that. thanks.
[02:09:00] biffhero: being called to supper. later.
[02:11:32] Beirdo: I *still* can't find how to bring up this CreateCDMP3 support
[02:13:23] Beirdo: Hmmmm
[02:21:27] Beirdo: OK, I'm gonna take a break
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[02:38:56] lannet: greetz. is anyone familiar with project-x?
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[02:57:48] [R]: omg
[02:57:54] [R]: mythtv-setup is FREAKING me out
[02:57:57] [R]: its got pictures
[02:58:02] wagnerrp: eh?
[02:59:03] [R]: for the flags
[02:59:15] [R]: for countr yselection
[03:00:16] [R]: is it getting that from qt or somsethign? i assume myth isn't packaging flags...
[03:00:39] wagnerrp: im guessing its qt
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[03:01:34] iamlindoro: no, it's from myth
[03:01:42] [R]: yeah, i jsut found them
[03:01:45] [R]: thats crazy
[03:02:45] biffhero1: wagnerrp: found it. thanks. I ran mythtv-frontend from my backend machine, and worked my way through a lot of the settings screens.
[03:04:03] biffhero1: Now to figure out how to name it with the date in the title. Otherwise I would have over 50 "The Piano Guy.mpg" entries, overwriting one another. heh.
[03:04:38] wagnerrp: its all in the formatting tag you give it
[03:06:13] [R]: huh
[03:06:19] [R]: mythtv can connect to lirc over a tcp socket
[03:06:22] [R]: never knew that...
[03:06:37] biffhero1: thanks.
[03:08:08] [R]: hrm, something is wrong... mythtv-setup is segfaulting
[03:08:12] [R]: i can't select my country/language
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[03:12:24] [R]: iamlindoro: my langauge list is empty... is that supposed to be like that?
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[03:15:56] josh_: I'm having a problem getting a front end to talk to a backend on a different server without error. I start the frontend, and it connects to the backend fine, I can play back recordings, but it keeps saying the connection to the backend times out every few seconds. Any ideas?
[03:16:41] Wicked: [R], i doubt the language list is supposed to be empty
[03:17:17] Wicked: prob something wrong on your end
[03:17:34] Wicked: [R], http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html
[03:17:45] [R]: lol
[03:22:52] [R]: 2010-11–26 20:20:00.022 XMLParseBase, Error: No theme file /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Terra/config-ui.xml
[03:22:55] [R]: well that's not good...
[03:23:02] [R]: it most definitely exists...
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[03:28:30] Wicked: might want to read over the install howto again and make sure you did not mess up and do something wrong...kinda looks like ya did
[03:28:39] [R]: lol
[03:28:49] [R]: i doubt that
[03:28:55] [R]: not my first time around the block
[03:28:57] ** Wicked shrugs... **
[03:29:00] Wicked: it worked for me
[03:29:01] ** [R] just runs it through gdb **
[03:29:02] Wicked: and others
[03:29:11] Wicked: seems like your the one having issues ;)
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[03:33:59] dumbledore: hey all.. I am trying to connect my mythbuntu computer to the TV.. I have Svideo out on the computer and composite in on the TV. But I am not able to do so. I have my xorg.conf here http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/YL30rF7K and the Xorg.log here http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/6K4Hx96A. Could someone please tell me what I am doing wrong? I appreciate the help.
[03:35:25] [R]: how are you plugging svideo into composite?
[03:36:50] kormoc: wizard's magic!
[03:37:08] kormoc: too bad wizard's magic fails to modify the signal to be correct
[03:37:21] dumbledore: R.I have Svideo to svideo cable from the computer into a manual HD switcher and the output from the switcher is a composite cable
[03:39:19] [R]: oh
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[03:47:37] marc_us: Anyone have this problem with HDPVRs? I notice the boxes stopping grabbing video during a recording for a couple of seconds. The blue ring light goes out and lights up again showing me that it's recording again. It appears to happen randomly and I've been digging through the logs but can't seem to pin it down. I do get this filling the logs constantly:
[03:47:47] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:38:27.789 AFD Error: Unknown decoding error
[03:47:47] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:38:27.831 [h264 @ 0x7f4929725380]get_buffer() failed (stride changed)
[03:47:50] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:38:27.872 [h264 @ 0x7f4929725380]decode_slice_header error
[03:47:51] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:38:27.922 [h264 @ 0x7f4929725380]no frame!
[03:47:54] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:38:27.963 AFD Error: Unknown decoding error
[03:48:56] [R]: the h264 error errors are harmless
[03:49:01] [R]: the pvr crapping out is normal
[03:49:10] marc_us: ok
[03:49:43] marc_us: I wonder why the boxes are just stopping recording and starting up again within a couple of seconds.
[03:49:48] [R]: it should say something about "giving up"
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[03:50:00] marc_us: hmmm nothing here about that.
[03:50:07] marc_us: in the log that I can see
[03:50:42] [R]: thats what its gonna have when you get the blue light going out
[03:51:03] [R]: 2010-11–23 08:50:48.239 DevRdB(/dev/video0) Error: Poll giving up
[03:51:51] [R]: well i gotta go
[03:52:21] marc_us: there it is
[03:52:28] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:48.565 AFD Error: Unknown decoding error
[03:52:28] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.201 [h264 @ 0x7f4929725380]get_buffer() failed (stride changed)
[03:52:31] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.196 DevRdB(/dev/video0) Error: Poll giving up
[03:52:33] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.263 [h264 @ 0x7f4929725380]decode_slice_header error
[03:52:36] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.196 DevRdB(/dev/video1) Error: Poll giving up
[03:52:38] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.322 [h264 @ 0x7f4929725380]no frame!
[03:52:41] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.323 MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: Device error detected
[03:52:43] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.339 AFD Error: Unknown decoding error
[03:52:46] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.340 MPEGRec(/dev/video1) Error: Device error detected
[03:52:48] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.396 [h264 @ 0x7f4929725380]get_buffer() failed (stride changed)
[03:52:52] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.395 DevRdB(/dev/video0): Stop(): Not running.
[03:52:54] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.444 DevRdB(/dev/video1): Stop(): Not running.
[03:52:57] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.494 [h264 @ 0x7f4929725380]decode_slice_header error
[03:52:59] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.594 [h264 @ 0x7f4929725380]no frame!
[03:53:02] marc_us: 2010-11–26 21:47:51.644 AFD Error: Unknown decoding error
[03:53:04] marc_us: And I see where it stops now
[03:53:05] Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o iamlindoro
[03:53:07] marc_us: but I don't have a clue as to what triggered this.
[03:53:13] iamlindoro: Dont... do that... again
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[03:54:46] iamlindoro: The failure is caused by a momentary failure of your set top box to provide the HD-PVR with consistent audio and video. It lies entirely between the box (which must output a constant stream of both) and the HD-PVR (which fails when it doesn't have both, all the time)
[03:55:04] marc_us: Ah, so not a problem with the myth setup.
[03:55:08] iamlindoro: Not much myth can do about it besides try again and hope that the HD-PVR agrees to capture
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[03:56:33] marc_us: Odd that both cable boxes feeding the HDPVRs both had the same drop out at the same time from two different channels. But it is digital programming. Both may be getting the same hickup from the infrastructure (cable signal)
[03:56:51] iamlindoro: That sounds like it's probably accurate
[03:57:26] marc_us: perhaps I should do a cold boot on these boxes when the machine is not recording. Thanks for the tip iamlindoro
[03:57:33] iamlindoro: np, good luck
[03:57:52] marc_us: Sorry about the pasting... I faild to remember rules against it.
[03:58:00] iamlindoro: s'ok, lesson learned
[03:58:32] marc_us: In the future, what would be a good way to reference a block like that? I've heard of "pastebin"?
[03:58:42] iamlindoro: yes, mythtv.pastebin.ca
[03:58:46] iamlindoro: (in the topic)
[03:58:48] wagnerrp: yes, there is one listed in the topci
[03:58:53] marc_us: AH ha!
[03:58:56] marc_us: thank you.
[03:59:12] marc_us: scrolls by so fast I did not see it in irssi
[04:03:44] marc_us: Ok, I've tried it out but not saved the info since you explained a plausable reason for the madness. I assume I instead post the pastebin topic in the chat room as a link?
[04:06:04] wagnerrp: hehe
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[04:07:00] wagnerrp: microsoft has removed 'drive extender' from developmental versions of WHS, citing that with the size of modern hard drives, there is no longer a need for simple transparent spanning of disks
[04:07:08] wagnerrp: 2TB is enough for anyone
[04:07:28] marc_us: but I already went past 3.5 tb
[04:07:37] marc_us: Dang, I guess I have to stay with linux
[04:08:00] marc_us: curse this raid 5 and lvm
[04:09:53] marc_us: How hard is it to remap qam cable channels to their analog equivalents? Is this easier with 24? Should I wait till updrading to 24 before attempting this?
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[04:12:12] wagnerrp: its no different with 0.24
[04:12:26] wagnerrp: and in either, it just requires you going into the channel editor and changing the channum
[04:12:50] wagnerrp: anyway, i was making a reference to the oft quoted '640kb is enough for anyone' from bill
[04:14:00] acidfreeze: so is it the best idea just to include the mythtv.conf.apache from httpd.conf?
[04:14:03] marc_us: I remember that.
[04:14:08] acidfreeze: mythweb*
[04:14:16] marc_us: good night all. thanks for the help iamlindoro
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[04:31:23] acidfreeze: ok i got it..
[04:31:35] acidfreeze: just wondering if i am scheduling wrong
[04:32:25] acidfreeze: i go to listings and choose something that is already playing
[04:32:28] acidfreeze: and click
[04:32:59] acidfreeze: record only this showing. it just sits in recording schedules
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[04:44:10] Beirdo: where's paul-h when I need him? :)
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[04:47:53] Beirdo: iamlindoro: you in, or in a turkey coma?
[04:47:54] Beirdo: :)
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[05:05:29] acidfreeze: anyone around
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[05:05:59] acidfreeze: i have mythweb working but it wont record anything i select but it never shows in recorded
[05:06:00] kormoc: acidfreeze, nope
[05:06:07] acidfreeze: i can record i mythtv
[05:06:18] acidfreeze: in*
[05:06:37] acidfreeze: so i go to listings and choose something playing currently.
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[05:06:53] acidfreeze: i check record only this showing
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[05:07:18] acidfreeze: i can see them in recording schedule ..
[05:07:23] acidfreeze: but they don
[05:07:30] acidfreeze: 't do anything from that point
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[05:59:52] ** Beirdo yawns **
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[06:00:15] Beirdo: BUT... got cd burning mostly working right under the new myth_system
[06:00:34] Beirdo: the only thing is... seems to not update the progress
[06:03:01] Beirdo: time to feed the beast a new CDR to eat
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[06:06:16] Beirdo: ah look, it's my new code that's borked
[06:06:17] Beirdo: heh
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[06:24:13] chovy: howdy
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[06:49:23] mtrax: hi, I hope there someone here that can help with an ASLA issue
[06:49:49] mtrax: as I think I broke my sound output
[06:49:59] peque: Hello and Godmorning(Denmark :-) ) I have some questions about storagegroups through mythweb – SInce I am only ably to see some of my files – Not all places, I have made my deault videogroup /storage/movies/movies – but cannot see the files inside /storage/movies/corcerts
[06:50:41] Gibby_2: mtrax: elaborate
[06:51:12] mtrax: I m running Fedora 12 but to get HDMI output I needed to upgrade to ASLA 1.0.23
[06:51:41] mtrax: and after some messing around with alsamixer I don't get any sound
[06:51:50] mtrax: spdif or hdmi
[06:54:17] mtrax: aplay -l list = http://mythtv.pastebin.com/860EUZCS
[06:54:44] Gibby_2: peque: did you click update under videos on the mythweb?
[06:54:55] peque: yes -
[06:55:09] Gibby_2: did you see it queu the job?
[06:56:32] Gibby_2: mtrax: I am not familiar with Fedora, however on Ubuntu, I had to run alsamixer and unmute the 3 s/pidif's
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[06:57:32] mtrax: yes all spdif unmuted
[06:58:07] mtrax: I guess it would great to get HDMI working but more concern with getting ANY sound working at this stage
[06:58:59] peque: Gibby_2: BuildMediaMap VIDEO scan starting in :/storage/movies/concerts/: and finds all the iso files I got from my Concerts DVD, But only can see the files from the storagegroup movies – not from the seperat concerts – allthougt its a sperate storagegroups
[06:59:13] Gibby_2: mtrax: what did you choose in your frontend option for audio?
[06:59:50] Gibby_2: peque: can a regular frontend see them?
[07:00:30] peque: yes
[07:00:44] mtrax: well I was testing using the "aplay" command , ie I was trying to get normal sound working in KDE first but in MythTV I would use  : default:CARD=CK804
[07:04:21] Gibby_2: what is the audio device?
[07:04:58] Gibby_2: mtrax: n/m saw you already pasted it
[07:05:06] Gibby_2: what nvidia driver are you using?
[07:05:41] Gibby_2: peque: pastebin the logs
[07:06:19] mtrax: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 260.19.21
[07:07:06] Gibby_2: hmm i had to upgrade to 260 also to make mine work
[07:07:22] Gibby_2: so there is no sound at all coming from HDMI even outside of myth?
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[07:09:05] mtrax: yes sound from O/S , so this is not a MythTV issue its an ALSA problem with my box
[07:09:16] mtrax: sorry no sound from O/S
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[07:10:23] Gibby_2: mtrax, regular sound out works?
[07:10:59] mtrax: nope no sound at all.. arrrg I've rebooted uninstalled alsa 1.0.23 and reinstalled it still nothing
[07:11:35] mtrax: so perhaps I should just say I would like to get my SPDIF working so I can get WAF ++
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[07:12:45] digi_webchat: hello, does anyone know how to add "not rated" videos into parental controls? I basically want any movies that have not been rated or do not have ratings info to be set to the highest access level
[07:13:02] Gibby_2: mtrax: WAF ++?
[07:13:15] mtrax: wife acceptance factor
[07:13:30] Gibby_2: rofl
[07:13:34] digi_webchat: I have tried "NR:R:NC-17", "*:R:NC-17", ":R:NC-17" etc
[07:14:11] digi_webchat: no, we baby sit kids and it's nice to be able to have a selection of movies that filters out stuff that is inappropriate
[07:14:19] Gibby_2: mtrax: check your OS channel
[07:14:29] mtrax: OS channels?
[07:14:38] Gibby_2: fedora IRC chat
[07:14:44] mtrax: oh
[07:16:30] peque: Gibby_2: http://pastebin.com/UcNKP525
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[07:33:50] Gibby_2: peque: are both movies and concerts iso files?
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[07:48:54] mtrax: hi back again, I just found out the sound outputs for another userid but not for mythtv
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[07:49:27] Gibby_2: mtrax: what is the out of of the command id userID and id mythtv
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[07:52:47] mtrax: so you think its a permissions issue?
[07:53:15] Gibby_2: yep
[07:53:25] mtrax: note this was working but I didn't change any permissions
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[07:55:17] Gibby_2: mtrax: it is working for mythtv?
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[08:00:48] mtrax: no its working for another userid
[08:01:02] mtrax: the mythtv userid is the one thats broken somehow
[08:01:55] mtrax: must be some file in that userid which is different
[08:03:00] Gibby_2: what is output of the ID command?
[08:10:29] mtrax: the mythtv is attached to two groups my home group and mythtv
[08:10:51] mtrax: I don't see how the id output is the problem
[08:12:44] mtrax: interestingly the second userid can't output any aplay -l
[08:12:55] mtrax: aplay -l aplay: device_list:235: no soundcards found...
[08:14:04] Gibby_2: mtrax: can't help you any further without the output of the above request
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[08:24:32] mtrax: uid=500(mythtv) gid=500(mythtv) groups=500(mythtv),504(group1)
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[08:33:20] Gibby_2: and the one tha tis working?
[08:33:54] Gibby_2: and the one tha tis working?
[08:34:03] Gibby_2: sorry wrong window, didn't mean to double post
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[08:45:08] mtrax: thats mythtv users
[08:45:14] mtrax: the one thats not working
[08:46:29] Gibby_2: yes and i need the one that is working
[08:47:13] mtrax: the other userd has only 1 group
[08:47:44] Gibby_2: post it
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[08:50:45] mtrax: uid=501(user2) gid=501(person1) groups=501(person1)
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[08:53:44] Gibby_2: does alsamixer look the same on both?
[08:58:40] Gibby_2: mtrax: what is the output of lsmod | grep snd and run and pastebin the output of http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.gi . . . alsa-info.sh
[08:58:42] mtrax: I was just trying a few thingsI added mythtv to the audio group and it didn't work
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[09:01:50] Beirdo: mtrax: after adding to the group... you DID log out and log back in, right?
[09:02:02] Beirdo: like log right out
[09:03:01] mtrax: yes
[09:03:18] Beirdo: OK. That's a fairly common mistake to make
[09:03:28] Beirdo: just thought I'd make sure you did :)
[09:03:30] mtrax: on the plus side after that change I see the hdmi PCM
[09:03:49] mtrax: hdmi:CARD=NVidia
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[09:08:18] mtrax: alsa info ==> http://mythtv.pastebin.com/5MjhaH9c
[09:09:13] mtrax: I'm pretty sure all the sound modules are loaded but they in the above output
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[09:12:27] Gibby_2: mtrax: you said your audio output device in the FE is Alsa:Default?
[09:12:44] mtrax: yes
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[09:13:17] Gibby_2: is there an ALSA:hdmi ect.....
[09:13:50] Gibby_2: something like ALSA:hdmi:CARD=Nvidia,DEV=0
[09:13:51] mtrax: yes
[09:13:56] Gibby_2: try that
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[09:17:19] mtrax: just tried ALSA:hdmi:CARD=Nvidia (after switching reciever to HDMI input
[09:17:25] mtrax: nothing
[09:17:36] Gibby_2: are you on 0.24?
[09:19:06] mtrax: yes 0.24 svn 27334
[09:20:10] Gibby_2: did you do a re-scan of the audio devices in the FE?
[09:22:07] mtrax: yes rescanned them
[09:22:56] Gibby_2: ok, the only other thing i know of that I had to do was reinstall the nvidia drivers
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[09:49:38] peque: Gibby_2  – All my Concerts are DVD isoinages – and Movies are mixed both iso og VIDEO Files
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[10:02:32] Beirdo: found it
[10:02:43] Beirdo: OMG, what a pain
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[10:21:15] Beirdo: now I need to tweak this code to work with wodim
[10:21:31] Beirdo: it will burn a CD, but the status bar don't move
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[13:05:40] Strawberrydeligh: hi all
[13:08:32] Strawberrydeligh: hello
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[13:23:50] Strawberrydeligh: would anyone like to chat??
[13:29:05] jarle: Strawberrydeligh: what are you wearing? :)
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[13:31:12] Strawberrydeligh: why????
[13:31:37] xand: :D
[13:33:52] Strawberrydeligh: :|
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[13:36:15] justinh: A/S/L
[13:36:38] Strawberrydeligh: to?
[13:38:46] Strawberrydeligh: justing were u asking me or kimbo?
[13:38:58] Strawberrydeligh: justinh*
[13:39:06] justinh: sigh
[13:39:34] Strawberrydeligh: ...............
[13:39:58] Strawberrydeligh: ok, this isn't working..
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[16:22:21] pheld: do the current nvidia-drivers (260.19.21) have known problems recovering from application errors (vdpau in particular)?
[16:22:52] pheld: need to stop the x-server and reload nvidia module to restore playback after mythfrontend crashes
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[17:11:26] wagnerrp: i dont understand why this outler guy insists on using the mysql.txt, and providing the database credentials on the command line, and writing his own command line parser instead of using one of the several that come with python
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[17:24:01] biffhero1: wagnerrp: If he's anything like the developers that I have seen, he dove in and flew down the "code up some features" as fast as possible, and when he came to the parser problem, he ran straight down that line, rather than raising his head and thinking "someone else has done an OK job, let's see what they did…"
[17:24:48] wagnerrp: no, ive told him on several occasions about them
[17:24:58] wagnerrp: suggested repeatedly that he use them rather than write his own
[17:25:34] wagnerrp: guess thats when you get for coming from bash where you have no choice but to write everything from scratch
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[17:26:01] biffhero1: yeah, I could see that happening.
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[17:28:37] bcgrown: has anyone figured out a decent way to stream mythtv's recordings and/or videos to an Android device?
[17:31:10] biffhero1: bcgrown: can you play .asx streams from mythweb ? I have "stream .asx" and "download .mpg" links in my mythweb "Recorded Programs" page. I suspect that doesn't work to your device?
[17:31:32] russell5: also have you tried flash from mythweb?
[17:31:51] bcgrown: biffhero1: The ASX stream gives me a "Bad Request" error
[17:32:23] bcgrown: russell5: I can see the flash player, but when i click it to play I get "200, stream not found"
[17:32:33] bcgrown: russell5: it works fine in firefox on my pc
[17:33:01] russell5: ok not sure then.
[17:33:02] russell5: sorry
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[17:34:20] bcgrown: russell5: which browser do you use for android?
[17:34:31] russell5: build in one
[17:34:35] russell5: built ^
[17:34:48] russell5: and sometimes fennec but that doesn't have much support for flash and stuff
[17:35:10] biffhero1: aha, mythnetvision. Interesting. apt-get installing mythnetvision right now. woot!
[17:35:23] russell5: yeah mythnetvision is cool
[17:35:32] bcgrown: hmm, the built in browser gives me a "failed to open stream" error
[17:36:07] bcgrown: when i click on "Recorded Programs." dolphin HD is the only one that manages to show the flash playr
[17:36:10] bcgrown: *player
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[18:02:41] Delian: hi all
[18:03:28] Delian: I'm using mythvideo plugin. I've set mythtv language to Italian but all the video metadata are in english :(
[18:04:08] Delian: I've checked tmdb. The italian's metadata exists
[18:04:42] Delian: I've tried tmdb.py script directly but, even passing -l option, the result is the same
[18:04:58] Delian: Any idea?
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[18:15:29] Delian: Sorry..
[18:15:37] Delian: any idea?
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[18:20:19] RDV_Linux: Delian: What is the command line you are using to find the movie metadata?
[18:20:30] Delian: ./tmdb.py -l it -D 11688
[18:20:47] Delian: but the language is en
[18:20:54] Delian: the it version exist
[18:21:04] wagnerrp: i get italian there
[18:21:07] iamlindoro: That command line returns italian just fine
[18:21:17] iamlindoro: <description>L'arrogante e giovane imperatore Kuzko, viene trasformato in un Lama dalla sua potente e cattiva consigliera Yzma. Condotto nelle giungla, l'unica chance di Kuzko per tornare a casa e reclamare la sua nobile vita è confidare in un contadino di buon cuore di nome Pacha.</description>
[18:21:18] iamlindoro: etc etc
[18:21:28] Delian: mhm
[18:21:41] wagnerrp: are you running 0.23 or 0.24?
[18:22:26] Delian: 0.23
[18:23:07] iamlindoro: .23 doesn't support the version of the API that does localization
[18:23:12] Delian: I've tried to update the tmdb.py but.. maybe it's related with the tmdb core
[18:23:20] iamlindoro: You can't just update scripts
[18:23:25] Delian: :D
[18:23:29] iamlindoro: You need to update your Myth to .24
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[18:23:41] eyeoh: taking the plunge! :)
[18:23:48] eyeoh: (reading slowly)
[18:24:22] Delian: iamlindoro: thank you :)
[18:24:25] wagnerrp: puring through the turns
[18:24:28] iamlindoro: np
[18:25:43] RDV_Linux: Delian: What I get back is a title and description that are not in English but the language tag is "en" <title>Le follie dell'imperatore</title>. I suspect that someone has not added this movie to TMDB correctly.
[18:26:06] iamlindoro: RDV_Linux, What you get back is from a totally different API than he
[18:26:17] RDV_Linux: ah
[18:26:19] iamlindoro: He's not getting localized metadata at all, he's on .23
[18:26:28] iamlindoro: (so he doesn't see tags, period)
[18:26:33] iamlindoro: Just the old text style output
[18:30:09] Delian: RDV_Linux: indeed
[18:30:38] russell5: if i cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg and still have sound issues there its not mythtv right?
[18:30:51] iamlindoro: correct
[18:31:00] russell5: thanks just making sure
[18:31:18] RDV_Linux: Delian: Follow iamlindoro's advise. I double checked and that movie is correct in TMDB.
[18:32:11] russell5: i try to fix one problem and another pops up its my life lol
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[18:39:58] Delian: RDV_Linux: ok I'll update mythtv
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[18:40:41] Delian: is mythtv upgrade from 0.23 to 0.24 painless? :)
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[18:44:31] wagnerrp: Delian: unless you have bad dats in the database, it should be
[18:44:52] wagnerrp: just install 0.24 over 0.23, and let mythbackend auto-update the database
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[18:45:56] Delian: good :) thanks for the info
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[18:48:30] high-rez: So does netflix online do ac3 or anything like that ?
[18:49:13] wagnerrp: probably AAC
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[18:49:29] high-rez: I've tried a couple of movies and only gotten two channel audio :/
[18:49:48] russell5_: yeah thats all you get i believe
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[18:50:07] high-rez: well i guess after my free trial is over i'll have to cancel
[18:50:19] russell5_: lol
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[18:50:33] wagnerrp: the fact that you cant use it on your linux mythfrontend probably also has a say there
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[18:50:48] high-rez: wangerrp: That too. I thought it supported flash at one point ?
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[18:50:54] russell5_: yeah
[18:51:15] high-rez: A friend of mine was using it at one point in myth
[18:51:54] high-rez: It /is/ actually running under linux to some extent. My samsung bluray player runs linux – and has some netflix app builtin
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[18:52:44] wagnerrp: yes, it has a custom application, inaccessible and locked custom hardware
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[18:52:53] wagnerrp: nothing available to end users runs on linux
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[18:55:35] russell5_: yay all works again :) lol
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[19:10:58] wagnerrp: is any recorded content ever going to be 24/30/60fps exactly?
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[19:20:02] iamlindoro: wagnerrp, not that I'm aware (assuming I read you right meaning integers rather than floats)
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[19:21:10] wagnerrp: yeah, 24fps as opposed to 24000/1001
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[21:05:23] digi_N810: hello, does anyone know how to set parental control level 4 to all movies not rated (NR) in mythvideo?
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[21:08:15] [R]: omg
[21:08:23] [R]: ubuntu has a package to automatically start X
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[21:11:58] Gibby_2: [R],?
[21:12:11] [R]: when the comptuer boots
[21:12:15] [R]: it starts as a given user
[21:12:28] [R]: instead of having to do crappy getty autologins that start x
[21:14:48] wagnerrp: the point is, autologin takes a bit of inittab setup (which is already installed and ready to use) or a bit of GDM setup (which is already installed and ready to use)
[21:14:58] wagnerrp: but instead of using either of those pre-existing systems
[21:15:05] wagnerrp: they have a new package and a new program to do it
[21:15:13] [R]: its pretty sweet
[21:15:18] [R]: lol
[21:15:32] [R]: 1 binary, 1 init script, and 1 config file
[21:15:35] [R]: and its all magic
[21:15:46] wagnerrp: sounds like init
[21:15:54] [R]: lol
[21:15:55] wagnerrp: mingetty or agetty is the binary
[21:15:58] [R]: haha
[21:16:00] wagnerrp: and /etc/inittab is the config file
[21:18:38] Gibby_2: [R], which package?
[21:18:47] [R]: its called nodm
[21:18:53] [R]: its basically a replacemnt for gdm
[21:19:52] wagnerrp: gdm is a replacement for xdm, both of which are full login managers
[21:19:57] wagnerrp: this is just autologin
[21:20:23] [R]: and you dont need a full maanger if you're never going to use its features
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[21:20:49] wagnerrp: but you cant call it a replacement if it doesnt offer almost any of the same capability
[21:21:02] [R]: yeah
[21:21:06] [R]: its a...
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[21:21:13] [R]: i dunno, but its awesome
[21:21:14] [R]: haha
[21:21:15] Gibby_2: [R], looks interesting, will have to try on a dev box... however I have never had an issue with autologining prior too
[21:21:35] [R]: Gibby_2: i never had issues either... but i think this way is a little cleaner for my setup
[21:22:40] Gibby_2: [R], i would like to see a package that lets me put my diskless frontend into the S3 state and actually wake up correctly
[21:22:51] [R]: haha
[21:23:04] [R]: i was going to work out an s3 scheme for my diskless
[21:23:09] wagnerrp: Gibby_2: ive never had problems with that
[21:23:20] wagnerrp: well... i wont say that...
[21:23:20] [R]: but my hardware is picky and plus my server goes to sleep
[21:23:30] wagnerrp: seems if i currently enable S3 wakeup on my MCEUSB
[21:23:34] wagnerrp: it wont let the system go to sleep
[21:23:43] wagnerrp: but i can otherwise let it sleep for days without issue
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[21:24:04] Gibby_2: wagnerrp; mine goes to sleep and wakes up(not by usb yet, still working on that) but when it wakes up nothing working and it is missing the mount points it seems...
[21:24:19] Gibby_2: how do you put it to sleep?
[21:24:28] [R]: Gibby_2: it might be taking down the network?
[21:25:00] wagnerrp: s2ram
[21:25:05] wagnerrp: some SuSe package
[21:25:22] Gibby_2: [R], ahhh, i see, never thought of that, so i need it to suspend and keep network and USB on basically.. had an issue with video too, only tested twice last night, at 7am before i went to bed finally
[21:25:54] [R]: if i could actually get s3 to work
[21:26:15] [R]: my plan would be to chroot to a ramdisk, unmount everyhting, tahn remount and reinit when woken up
[21:26:26] [R]: thats the only way it would work for me, because i neeed to wake up my backend
[21:26:46] Gibby_2: [R], my backend does some other stuff so it is always on
[21:27:01] [R]: but every time i try, i can never get it wake up propperly
[21:27:35] Gibby_2: [R], are you using the ltsp mythbuntu diskless build option?
[21:27:45] [R]: yes
[21:28:03] [R]: bugt just to get the initial chroot built
[21:28:07] [R]: i customize the hell out of it
[21:28:54] Gibby_2: [R], ditto, i add alot to mine, however to put mine to sleep i use pm-suspend
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[21:29:07] [R]: i strip everytihng out of mine
[21:29:08] [R]: haha
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[21:29:45] [R]: on the up side
[21:29:53] [R]: i learned a ton about debian packages and the debian installer this weekend
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[21:31:43] [R]: and i love the equivs command
[21:39:21] Gibby_2: Oracle is pissing me off
[21:40:28] [R]: why
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[21:42:31] Gibby_2: [R], We are rebuilding our Oracle Manager Ops Center environment with the new release..... so many issues, only able to get 80 out of 300 agents to connect
[21:43:52] [R]: oh
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[21:45:43] Gibby_2: [R] and backline support doesn't exist on holidays/nights/weekends...
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[21:46:16] [R]: who works on the sat after thanksgiving
[21:46:16] [R]: ":)
[21:46:49] Gibby_2: [R] i have been.. :)
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[21:51:01] Gibby_2: iamlindoro: IRT MythVideo and the folder images... anyway to put a wildcard in when it looks for meta data 2 levels deep? like with some series where it puts the year in
[21:51:22] iamlindoro: No
[21:51:36] iamlindoro: If the metadata includes year, so too should the folder name
[21:51:53] Gibby_2: iamlindoro: ok yw
[21:52:00] Gibby_2: i meant jw
[21:53:32] acidfreeze1: could someone tell me what i am doing wrong. If i record in mythtv it works fine, but if in mythweb i go to listings and choose record only this showing it does not work
[21:53:52] acidfreeze1: i never see anything populate in recorded programs
[21:54:26] acidfreeze1: even if i do manual it doesn't do anything
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[22:10:26] KungFuJesus: is it normal for my mythtv database to grow to 22GB
[22:10:57] KungFuJesus: I'm assuming the devs normalized teh schema so it seems unusually large to me
[22:11:31] KungFuJesus: I mean yes this db is old, very old, but is there a way to clean it out maybe?
[22:14:44] KungFuJesus: eh, mythconverg actually isn't that big, however I have many mysqld-bin-00### files in my /var/lib/mysql directory
[22:16:00] KungFuJesus: nevermind, googled out of this one
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[22:18:10] stuartm: I'm having serious problems with my Nova-T 500, it's not honouring the force_lna_activation=1 flag in options, if I remove the module and reload it with that flag then it refuses to load the firmware
[22:18:43] Beirdo: show it who's boss :)
[22:19:16] stuartm: it's driving me crazy
[22:19:25] Beirdo: I'd imagine so
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[22:22:10] digi_N810: anyone know how to include NR rated movies in parental level 4? they default to 1 (everyone)
[22:22:31] digi_N810: in mythvideo
[22:22:46] iamlindoro: There is no way to do so presently
[22:23:21] KungFuJesus: heh, that's funny
[22:23:36] KungFuJesus: most movies in the tmdb database are considered "NR"
[22:23:42] iamlindoro: NR is just a default string applied to any video
[22:24:12] iamlindoro: And it sounds like you're on .23
[22:24:19] KungFuJesus: I actually utilize parental levels to hide files that aren't video, as unchecking "include while browsing" has never worked in the history of mythtv
[22:24:42] iamlindoro: wrong
[22:24:49] KungFuJesus: what am I doing wrong?
[22:24:55] digi_N810: i know, i looked in the database and the rating is actually 'NR' for those movies
[22:25:09] iamlindoro: digi_N810, because that's the *default string*
[22:25:23] iamlindoro: when a movie is scanned into the database, that's what it's given as it has no rating
[22:25:36] iamlindoro: it only changes from NR if the metadata source provides something else
[22:26:04] digi_N810: right, the mythvideo setting for parental levels seems to ignore setting NR string
[22:26:10] iamlindoro: KungFuJesus, You either have "Browse unknown file types" set to on in metadata settings, or file browse mode on
[22:26:27] iamlindoro: digi_N810, Because the auto-set of parental levels occurs on a *metadata grab*
[22:26:36] iamlindoro: digi_N810, And the metadata grab will never return NR
[22:26:38] KungFuJesus: I think I have file browse mode, not sure
[22:26:56] digi_N810: iamlindoro, ah, that makes much more sense now ;)
[22:27:10] KungFuJesus: documentation never made any huge distiction between the two with mythvideo
[22:27:11] iamlindoro: KungFuJesus, Then you are browsing the filesystem, and your settings for file types are ignored
[22:28:02] digi_N810: about 1/6 of the movies are NR, I can manually edit those ratings I suppose
[22:28:18] KungFuJesus: well no I think I did the latter then, because I can tell it to hide specific files with certain endings
[22:28:25] KungFuJesus: and it works, I did it with nfos
[22:29:23] KungFuJesus: I'm doing it with split 700MB videos, hiding the second part and specifying "play after"
[22:29:27] iamlindoro: digi_N810, Bear in mind that manually editing the rating will not automatically change the parental level-- as mentioned before, automatic adjustment occurs when the metadata source assigns a rating, not when yuo assign one
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[22:30:03] wagnerrp: KungFuJesus: just join the files
[22:30:04] iamlindoro: digi_N810, If you want them at a higher parental level, you should set it yourself in edit metadata
[22:30:06] stuartm: a lot of films are still unrated on tmdb, since it's a community edited site if you find an example then take a couple of minutes to add the official rating
[22:30:07] wagnerrp: far better solution
[22:30:18] iamlindoro: +1 to what stuartm said
[22:30:20] KungFuJesus: probably could, too lazy to do it, though
[22:30:32] wagnerrp: or even better, stop splitting them when you rip them in the first place
[22:30:47] wagnerrp: the entire concept of splitting things to one CD or one DVD is baffling
[22:30:52] ** stuartm has rated 100+ films on TMDB but I still find examples all the time where no rating has been entered **
[22:31:08] KungFuJesus: I'm not allowed to talk about why they're split :-p
[22:31:26] iamlindoro: then don't be "sly" either
[22:31:34] KungFuJesus: let's just say that was really big at the earlier half the decade
[22:31:36] ** iamlindoro hates the "wink wink nudge nudge I'm following the rules" BS **
[22:31:42] iamlindoro: And you know what
[22:31:47] iamlindoro: I'm just going to kick people for that from now on
[22:31:54] KungFuJesus: :(
[22:32:09] iamlindoro: theft has been really big since the discovery of fire
[22:32:16] iamlindoro: it's just as unacceptable now
[22:32:17] KungFuJesus: well last time I openly talked about it I was massively chastized in here
[22:32:27] iamlindoro: I'll do you one better
[22:32:34] iamlindoro: even allude to it again and you get a permanent ban
[22:33:16] KungFuJesus: permission to pm?
[22:33:21] [R]: lol
[22:33:23] iamlindoro: no
[22:33:25] KungFuJesus: :(
[22:33:59] stuartm: it's not clever, it's not right, stop pretending that it's "ok" because it's something that "everyone does"
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[22:35:43] stuartm: I don't suppose that many of the people who download pirated stuff would go shoplifting, but that's probably only out of fear of being caught rather than a sense of right and wrong
[22:35:53] KungFuJesus: I'm not here to justify or to discuss semantics about it, I have literally nothing to say about it. I love this project, please don't shun me :(
[22:37:47] stuartm: grr, I really don't know why the v4l devs won't enable the LNA on the Nova-T 500 by default, it's completely useless without it
[22:38:59] stuartm: maybe if I continually pester mkrufky or devinheitmuller they'll relent
[22:39:40] stuartm: or go above their heads to Hauppauge, have stoth or someone intervene
[22:40:03] iamlindoro: both mkrufky and devinheitmuller work for Hauppauge
[22:40:06] ** stuartm is having a really bad night with this stupid driver **
[22:40:06] KungFuJesus: this may be unrelated to the mythtv project specifically, but I'm having an issue with a G98 based nvidia PCI card when trying to startx, I'm getting the "WAIT" error, despite not having any iommu settings enabled in my kernel config
[22:40:17] stuartm: iamlindoro: they do??
[22:40:19] KungFuJesus: trying to use this card in a secondary FE
[22:40:24] iamlindoro: stuartm, Yes, all threee of those guys work there
[22:41:24] iamlindoro: stuartm, mkrufky and stoth for a few years, devinheitmuller started there earlier this year
[22:41:30] stuartm: Devin doesn't, he works for GridApp according to his webpage
[22:41:35] iamlindoro: not any more
[22:41:40] stuartm: although maybe he just hasn't updated it recently
[22:41:51] iamlindoro: He started at Haupp in June
[22:41:54] stuartm: iamlindoro: huh, didn't know that
[22:42:10] stuartm: guess it never came up in all our recent conversation
[22:42:24] iamlindoro: stuartm, He talks about his job move a bit on his Livejournal page
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[22:42:52] stuartm: huh
[22:43:02] iamlindoro: He and his wife recently moved to Michigan for his wife's work, but is still working remotely for H
[22:43:29] KungFuJesus: anybody else run into this issue?
[22:43:49] stuartm: ok, that might make things easier, I've at least dealt with him on a project before
[22:44:08] wagnerrp: foolish grounded mike
[22:44:34] iamlindoro: wagnerrp, Heh, I set up an auto-delete rule for him a long time ago-- is he still at it?
[22:44:51] wagnerrp: his "kick a**" dual xeon is about 50% less powerful than the microatx frontend i built for $160 over a year and a half ago
[22:45:09] wagnerrp: hes complaining about video playback being sluggish
[22:45:27] wagnerrp: and he posts a top with mysqld running at 90% CPU usage
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[22:45:42] [R]: wagnerrp: hes still going on about stuff?
[22:47:21] wagnerrp: but but... hes running it on 15K hard drives
[22:47:30] wagnerrp: that should mean its blazing fast
[22:47:51] digi_N810: any way to edit mythvideo movie ratings besides updating the database manually?
[22:48:09] KungFuJesus: who would use a dual xeon server for a frontend?
[22:48:15] stuartm: digi_N810: edit themoviedb.org
[22:48:15] KungFuJesus: that'd be so sound
[22:48:17] iamlindoro: digi_N810, Use the edit metadata screen
[22:48:23] KungFuJesus: loud*
[22:48:40] wagnerrp: KungFuJesus: clearly you dont understand the madness that is mike@grounded
[22:49:01] wagnerrp: hes running a server farm on an old P3 blade center
[22:49:02] KungFuJesus: lol, apparently. Maybe for a backend, but that's a terrible idea for a frontend and backend
[22:49:05] iamlindoro: digi_N810, Note that not all themers decide to put all the edit widgets in the edit metadata screen-- if yours doesn't have it, use Arclight
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[22:49:17] KungFuJesus: ewww blades
[22:49:34] wagnerrp: because its cool to run all those machines, rather than just buy a new i7 which will have more power then all the blade cumulatively
[22:49:56] digi_N810: iamlindoro, good to know
[22:50:15] KungFuJesus: digi_N810: or press e on the movie you want to edit info for
[22:50:56] KungFuJesus: that's the default edit key, anyway
[22:52:44] iamlindoro: wagnerrp, your best friend adam is back with a new script
[22:52:57] wagnerrp: yeah, i noticed
[22:52:58] KungFuJesus: one of these days I'll actually take the time to manually fix some of the commercial flagged episodes that need adjusting and actually cut the video. My disk space would probably go up 25%
[22:53:44] wagnerrp: iamlindoro: i was complaining a bit about that earlier today
[22:54:39] wagnerrp: i dont understand why a script to delete recordings prints out a massive block of metadata like that
[22:54:53] wagnerrp: i dont understand why one must print out a block like that at all
[22:55:09] wagnerrp: IMHO, he should scrap his whole script, and rewrite the thing in perl/python
[22:55:23] KungFuJesus: isn't there a python API to mythtv for that?
[22:55:27] wagnerrp: and have separate loadable modules that he uses as the backend to connect to mythtv/freevo/vdr/whatever
[22:55:27] [R]: so i must be missing something on my backend... when i run setup, i get no langauges... but on my frontend i do
[22:56:02] wagnerrp: he continues to accept database credentials on the command line for all of his scripts... not sure why that is needed
[22:56:15] wagnerrp: he continues to fall back to a mysql.txt... absolutely not needed
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[22:56:34] wagnerrp: the only scenario where you will have a mysql.txt and not a config.xml is if youre running mythtv 0.20 or previous
[22:57:21] wagnerrp: he continues to write his own command line parser for each script, when it would be much easier to use one of the several existing python modules to do so... ive told him this on several occasions
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[23:01:40] digi_N810: i decided to just sign up for tmdb and contribute ratings :)
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[23:07:20] stuartm: digi_N810: fyi, since TMDB employs some caching to save processing power it can take a day or three before submitted changes are available to MythTV
[23:09:00] Beirdo: ugh
[23:09:12] Beirdo: having to test code changes in borked code is just so fun
[23:10:42] Beirdo: QImage::scaled: Image is a null image
[23:10:49] Beirdo: woohoo. another Qt abort
[23:14:22] digi_N810: stuartm, that is fine by me, at least these movies' ratings get updated for everyone :)
[23:14:44] digi_N810: about 150 NR
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[23:43:59] nutron: wagnerrp: which script were you talking about?
[23:45:39] wagnerrp: nutron: check the recent changes on the wiki
[23:45:49] nutron: wagnerrp: mmkay
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[23:46:59] nutron: and just to keep up with the times, have the preview grabber and seektable bugs been fixed in -fixes?
[23:47:12] nutron: or rather, does anyone know the bug numbers?  :)
[23:57:08] _Techie_: is there pre compiled win32 binary, or an installer?

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