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| [00:42:46] | wagnerrp: | ekristen: i use my digital tuners for digital cable |
| [00:43:06] | wagnerrp: | but the only channels im able to receive are those that are broadcast OTA anyway |
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| [01:46:56] | sphery: | heh, Col Tigh is on Smallville. Got the eye all fixed up, though. |
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| [01:55:12] | iamlindoro: | Did he bring his dirty, dirty wife? |
| [01:55:54] | ** wagnerrp has no idea who Col Tigh is ** | |
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| [01:55:58] | iamlindoro: | Galactica |
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| [02:11:20] | iamlindoro: | http://tlltsarchive.org/archives/MythTVCast_Episode27.ogg in case anyone is interested |
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| [02:11:38] | iamlindoro: | (talked with them re: .24) |
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| [02:14:07] | wagnerrp: | long one.... |
| [02:14:47] | iamlindoro: | Now where's [R] on that one |
| [02:17:31] | iamlindoro: | Heh, easy for me, I can just listen to the last 11 minutes to hear what I haven't heard ;) |
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| [02:18:23] | wagnerrp: | hey now... porn isnt the only thing to use angles |
| [02:18:28] | wagnerrp: | i think Tombstone did |
| [02:18:28] | iamlindoro: | haha |
| [02:18:38] | iamlindoro: | I found some alternate angles in Top Gun |
| [02:18:43] | iamlindoro: | that's how I tested it on Blu |
| [02:18:55] | wagnerrp: | i remember having some problems with it when i first ripped it a couple years ago |
| [02:19:10] | wagnerrp: | the video would run about 5 seconds, and then repeat |
| [02:19:21] | wagnerrp: | as it would play both angles for that segment of video |
| [02:20:28] | bcgrown: | i updated my mythbuntu 10.04 to the mythtv 0.24 and now i can't connect to my backend :( anyone know what happened? all I did was select 0.24 ppa, and Mythbuntu Updates, using the Mythbuntu Control Center. then I updated via synaptic and it stopped working :( |
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| [02:21:40] | bcgrown: | p.s. hi |
| [02:22:11] | iamlindoro: | bcgrown, Asking in #mythbuntu might be better, nothing has changed in myth code regarding database connections/etc., sounds like maybe the package install didn't go quite right |
| [02:22:35] | bcgrown: | iamlindoro: k i'll try there.. it's always been kind of dead when i've checked in the past, hence coming here first |
| [02:23:34] | bcgrown: | wagnerrp: did you ever make anything with that show recommendation site? |
| [02:23:39] | iamlindoro: | bcgrown, In short, you probably want to start by checking a mysql connection from the command line, then check your config.xml/mysql.txt files, etc. (start from lowest level, then move upwards) |
| [02:24:12] | bcgrown: | iamlindoro: can you refresh my memory on the proper mysql syntax? |
| [02:24:24] | iamlindoro: | mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [02:24:29] | wagnerrp: | bcgrown: i never made it past that test script, i never found the results to be very worthwhile |
| [02:24:32] | iamlindoro: | then enter your mythtv mysql password when prompted |
| [02:24:50] | bcgrown: | wagnerrp: ah, oh well |
| [02:25:08] | bcgrown: | wagnerrp: i'm sure there are more important things to work on! |
| [02:27:12] | bcgrown: | iamlindoro: lets me in fine |
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| [02:28:07] | iamlindoro: | bcgrown, Then the next step will be to check all the mysql.txt and config.xml files on your system to make sure they're correct, and you can pastebin your frontend log if you like just to make sure there's nothing obviously wrong there |
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| [02:31:32] | sphery: | bcgrown: also check log output to see if it tells you what the problem may be |
| [02:31:50] | bcgrown: | sphery: durrr. you know, i know enough to know that... but not today apparently :) |
| [02:32:05] | sphery: | heh |
| [02:32:08] | iamlindoro: | !trout sphery said it first |
| [02:32:08] | ** MythLogBot slaps sphery with a said it first trout on behalf of iamlindoro... ** | |
| [02:32:28] | sphery: | sorry, didn't read all of scrollback |
| [02:32:32] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [02:33:20] | wagnerrp: | elmojo has some competition... http://gizmodo.com/5698052 |
| [02:33:48] | elmojo: | huh? |
| [02:33:50] | iamlindoro: | Wasn't LCARS by gbutters? |
| [02:34:05] | wagnerrp: | i thought gbutters was mythbuntu |
| [02:34:14] | iamlindoro: | he also wrote that |
| [02:34:32] | wagnerrp: | ah, elmojo, you did childish? |
| [02:34:41] | iamlindoro: | he did none :) |
| [02:34:47] | iamlindoro: | mag0o did childish |
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| [02:35:02] | wagnerrp: | hmm... |
| [02:35:16] | wagnerrp: | anyway... gbutters has some competition... http://gizmodo.com/5698052 |
| [02:35:32] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [02:35:34] | bcgrown: | iamlindoro, sphery: logs just have a lot of connection timeout messages |
| [02:35:40] | bcgrown: | frontend log that is |
| [02:35:54] | sphery: | :( |
| [02:36:06] | iamlindoro: | bcgrown, What about at the top of the logs? Is it attempting to connect to the correct IPs? |
| [02:36:18] | bcgrown: | iamlindoro: backend log says no capture cards, cause i just deleted them... do i need a capture card for the backend to start properly? |
| [02:36:25] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [02:36:29] | bcgrown: | aha! |
| [02:36:36] | iamlindoro: | backend will not start without a capture device |
| [02:37:10] | bcgrown: | is there a way to put a dummy device since? i don't want it to try recording (no cable service) |
| [02:37:27] | iamlindoro: | yes, there is a dummy/demo tuner |
| [02:37:34] | bcgrown: | k i'll try that |
| [02:37:48] | bcgrown: | p.s. i usually don't suck at grammar that much |
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| [02:49:17] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: heres a better show logo for you to use... http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/l . . . 0-121945.jpg |
| [02:49:38] | iamlindoro: | heh, that IS better |
| [02:49:45] | iamlindoro: | but similar |
| [02:50:16] | bcgrown: | iamlindoro: that worked, thanks! |
| [02:50:25] | iamlindoro: | bcgrown, np, glad you got it sorted out |
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| [02:55:50] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: just a clarification, its not using both tuners at once... |
| [02:55:55] | wagnerrp: | the second tuner is outright ignored |
| [02:56:18] | wagnerrp: | whether you have mythtv set to use the first or second tuner is irrelevant, it just goes and uses the first tuner anyway |
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| [02:56:27] | iamlindoro: | OK. Well, they can look at the bug if they're that bothered about it :) |
| [02:56:46] | iamlindoro: | Since I don't own one, my own knowledge of it is peripheral |
| [02:56:52] | wagnerrp: | ah |
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| [03:11:50] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: why is wake-on-lan running an external command? |
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| [03:16:30] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: beats me |
| [03:17:04] | Beirdo: | http://www.beirdo.ca/git/mythtv/commit/?h=myt . . . 9379e1bf8615 |
| [03:17:04] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I think it was so that the user could do whatever they want to wake their system rather than rely on only what we support for wol |
| [03:17:11] | Beirdo: | I just report em as I see em :) |
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| [03:17:28] | sphery: | i.e. they can use any complex approach they want--not just wake on lan |
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| [03:18:50] | sphery: | I think I remember Captain_Murdoch talking about exactly that. |
| [03:19:42] | sphery: | and means we don't have to have settings for ip address, port, mac address, ... |
| [03:19:52] | sphery: | magic packet format, ... |
| [03:20:31] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:20:48] | Beirdo: | yeah, just one nasty one for a command line for the luser to figure out |
| [03:21:36] | sphery: | heh, yeah |
| [03:21:50] | wagnerrp: | but even that doesnt make sense, as that setting has to be stored in the database |
| [03:22:05] | wagnerrp: | ... so the database has to be active for wakeup to work |
| [03:22:15] | sphery: | those are the wakeonlan for the remote backends, I think |
| [03:22:52] | wagnerrp: | ah, stuff run by the master |
| [03:23:11] | sphery: | not the initial wakeup of the master... whose name I forget, but that's specified in mysql.txt/config.xml |
| [03:25:14] | sphery: | WOLsqlReconnectWaitTime (default 0), WOLsqlConnectRetry (default 5), WOLsqlCommand (not set by default) |
| [03:26:00] | sphery: | where SQL is because it's assuming it's waking the MySQL server host |
| [03:26:21] | sphery: | though the command could wake as many as desired... |
| [03:26:55] | sphery: | appears those would also use myth_system() |
| [03:27:28] | wagnerrp: | myth_system is not going to be removed |
| [03:27:42] | wagnerrp: | its a simple enough interface for anything which doesnt need more complex support |
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| [03:28:10] | wagnerrp: | its basically just wrapping the new class |
| [03:29:45] | cesman: | iamlindoro: good interview |
| [03:29:53] | iamlindoro: | cesman, thanks :) |
| [03:31:33] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yeah, but in theory, we should test as many of the old uses of myth_system as we can.... to be sure we don't have surprise regressions |
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| [03:32:06] | Beirdo: | oh wow, another firmware upgrade for the WD TV Live Plus |
| [03:32:32] | sphery: | wagnerrp: OK, so I have it completely backwards... The MySQL server wakeonlan (in mythcontext) uses myth_system() and a generic script. The remote backend wakeup in the master backend writes out the magic packet directly if the WakeUpCommand setting is (looks like) a MAC address or executes the program if not. |
| [03:33:10] | sphery: | Seems we need to move the mythcontext one to use WakeUpSlave()'s functionality (and change the function's name) so that users can just put a MAC address into the config.xml/mysql.txt |
| [03:33:13] | Beirdo: | it's all rather confusing, really :) |
| [03:35:22] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: capt'm's multi-file stuff will be doing the transcoding at record time? |
| [03:35:35] | sphery: | ttbomk, at job time |
| [03:35:40] | wagnerrp: | i thought it was just to allow post-recording jobs to add additional files later |
| [03:37:40] | wagnerrp: | bugger... AMC is completely gone |
| [03:37:51] | wagnerrp: | no more Walking Dead |
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| [04:03:19] | iamlindoro: | Heh, stupid food netowrk |
| [04:03:59] | iamlindoro: | I'm watching the finale of "The Next Iron Chef" and what comes on IMMEDIATELY after the start of the commercials? A commercial advertising the "first battle" of the new iron chef, giving away the finish |
| [04:04:18] | [R]: | why no commflag? |
| [04:04:30] | iamlindoro: | doesn't always succeed, and did not in this case |
| [04:05:34] | [R]: | oh, sucks |
| [04:07:02] | sphery: | iamlindoro: heh, I just started watching BSG S4.5. Throughout all of S4, the shows have started with a countdown of the 12 Cylons ending with "1 will be revealed". The preview for BSG: The Plan movie at the start of the DVD revealed that Cylon. |
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| [04:07:37] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [04:07:46] | iamlindoro: | I always felt the final cylon was an anticlimax |
| [04:08:06] | sphery: | yeah, I'm not at peace with it, yet--but then again, I'm not supposed to know who it is, yet |
| [04:08:20] | sphery: | I'm reserving judgement until I see it presented in context |
| [04:08:47] | iamlindoro: | It's ok, love the show, love the finale, just wasn't sure it was the most impactful thing to play up |
| [04:08:51] | [R]: | bsg is on netflix streaming |
| [04:08:54] | [R]: | i should get netflix and watch it |
| [04:09:01] | iamlindoro: | feel like it would have been better to just surprise people with it |
| [04:09:27] | sphery: | yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking... the whole countdown at the beginning seems to imply it's way more important than it seems to me that it will be |
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| [04:28:38] | firewaterburnz: | anybody in here have any idea how to specify a certain piece of coverart to be displayed in mythbuntu for a directory? |
| [04:28:48] | firewaterburnz: | maybe a naming convention? |
| [04:28:53] | firewaterburnz: | a built in utility? |
| [04:28:59] | firewaterburnz: | edit a database? |
| [04:29:03] | [R]: | folder.jpg i belive |
| [04:29:38] | sphery: | iamlindoro: heh, well on the bright side, they revealed it in the first episode of S4.5, so the preview only made it about 40min premature |
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| [04:29:49] | iamlindoro: | Someone really ought to document MythVideo sometime |
| [04:29:59] | firewaterburnz: | so if I have a folder named drwho, then I name my image drwho.jpg and place it in coverart and it will theoretically work R? |
| [04:30:03] | sphery: | firewaterburnz: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo |
| [04:30:04] | iamlindoro: | I can't believe people are forced to log on to IRC to find this stuff out |
| [04:30:07] | iamlindoro: | oh wait |
| [04:30:08] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo#Folder_Images |
| [04:30:08] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythvideo#Folder_Images |
| [04:30:14] | iamlindoro: | exactly |
| [04:30:17] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:30:48] | iamlindoro: | no, not $folderName, just folder |
| [04:30:55] | iamlindoro: | folder.jpg/png/etc. |
| [04:32:31] | wagnerrp: | deathclaws in F:NV are absurdly hard |
| [04:32:53] | iamlindoro: | Not when you steal every energy weapon in New Vegas |
| [04:32:57] | iamlindoro: | with a bucket |
| [04:33:13] | sphery: | you bucket thief |
| [04:33:17] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [04:33:21] | sphery: | probably didn't even buy the bucket |
| [04:33:22] | iamlindoro: | I only stole from bad guys |
| [04:33:26] | iamlindoro: | I found it |
| [04:33:32] | sphery: | sheesh |
| [04:33:46] | sphery: | and you admit this in a logged, public channel |
| [04:33:50] | iamlindoro: | haha |
| [04:34:07] | sphery: | "Energy weapons want to be free" |
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| [04:34:59] | iamlindoro: | and ammo |
| [04:35:19] | iamlindoro: | sphery, I presume you've seen http://www.joystiq.com/2010/10/27/stealing-in . . . cket-method/ |
| [04:35:37] | iamlindoro: | I just learned after starting that that you can also drag the weapons themselves away to a hidey hole |
| [04:35:37] | sphery: | that's the problem with kids these days... think they can just take what they want |
| [04:35:47] | iamlindoro: | I can take virtually anything |
| [04:35:49] | iamlindoro: | get it? |
| [04:36:37] | sphery: | iamlindoro: yeah, I learned about it from Penny Arcade |
| [04:37:00] | sphery: | I even sent you the link to the comic |
| [04:37:09] | iamlindoro: | oh, ok |
| [04:37:14] | iamlindoro: | well it was a good play tip ;) |
| [04:37:27] | wagnerrp: | so youre still stealing it, youre just making sure its out of the room when you do so? |
| [04:37:37] | iamlindoro: | yep |
| [04:37:40] | sphery: | http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20101029 |
| [04:37:52] | iamlindoro: | you drag it off to a nearby room, drop it, shut the door, and pick it up |
| [04:38:11] | iamlindoro: | (I drag it to the back of the room because occasionally guards seem to see through walls |
| [04:38:13] | iamlindoro: | ) |
| [04:38:29] | wagnerrp: | i didnt realize you only get bad karma if people see you |
| [04:38:42] | iamlindoro: | I think that the modifier of the location comes into play too |
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| [04:38:53] | iamlindoro: | ie, the energy weapon dealers are bad guys |
| [04:42:21] | iamlindoro: | oh, and obviously you will want to ahve put a ton of points towards energy weapons |
| [04:42:36] | sphery: | and save before attempting |
| [04:42:36] | iamlindoro: | Since if your energy weapon score is low, then having them won't help |
| [04:51:51] | iamlindoro: | firewaterburnz, I don't respond to PMs from strangers |
| [04:52:10] | firewaterburnz: | lol stranger danger? |
| [04:52:19] | iamlindoro: | I don't see how the docs could be much more explicit. They don't say "use the name of the folder and an extension." They say folder.jpg |
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| [04:52:33] | iamlindoro: | "You can place a file named folder.(png | gif | jpg) into a folder that is accessible to MythVideo etc etc" |
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| [04:53:15] | firewaterburnz: | I am not stupid iamlindoro, but I have tried it and simply is not working, so I thought I would doublecheck |
| [04:53:16] | iamlindoro: | no, not stranger danger, more a matter of a) nobody else learns if I become your private tutor, and b) I'm not paid enough for one on one troubleshooting |
| [04:53:28] | iamlindoro: | If it's not working, it's likely you are in file browse mode |
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| [04:53:46] | iamlindoro: | or the permissions on the file are wrong |
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| [04:53:49] | firewaterburnz: | No I am in the video gallery, or so it says at the top |
| [04:54:00] | iamlindoro: | That does not preclude you being in file browse mode |
| [04:54:22] | iamlindoro: | which is enabled and disabled from the menu |
| [05:02:13] | firewaterburnz: | ty for the help iamlindoro, and of course for your 'sunny disposition on life' |
| [05:03:05] | iamlindoro: | thank you for your courteous understanding about the fact that I don't want to be your one on one myth coach, but am happy to answer your questions in public |
| [05:03:22] | iamlindoro: | sorry to have answered your questions in a manner that displeased you, I'll ask my manager to issue a full refund immediately |
| [05:03:42] | ** [R] stamps the request ** | |
| [05:03:43] | [R]: | DENIED |
| [05:03:45] | firewaterburnz: | you certainly have a chip on your shoulder sir |
| [05:03:51] | iamlindoro: | oh well, I asked, he said no |
| [05:04:01] | iamlindoro: | but he said that your next month's membership here is free |
| [05:06:47] | [R]: | firewaterburnz: nacho? |
| [05:07:25] | iamlindoro: | I always considered the chip on my shoulder to be more of a pita, or maybe a sun chip |
| [05:07:28] | iamlindoro: | something healthy |
| [05:07:29] | firewaterburnz: | lol, ty :-) |
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| [05:10:08] | firewaterburnz: | All I am saying is there is a courteous way to say things, there is no reason to be abrupt all the time, even if one is under-payed and under-appreciated. Sarcasm, rudeness and insincerity are not good for anything |
| [05:10:39] | iamlindoro: | Nobody was rude or insincere to you. Being to the point is different from either. |
| [05:11:00] | iamlindoro: | If I had a mind to be rude to you, it would be much less subtle |
| [05:11:22] | firewaterburnz: | I can't even imagine:-O |
| [05:11:52] | iamlindoro: | You got non-sugar-coated facts. You also got accurate information. Just because I choose not to perform troubleshooting for free in private messages does *not* mean that I am rude to you, merely that I choose to answer your questions in an appropriate, public forum |
| [05:12:06] | iamlindoro: | If you do not like that way of doing things, you can feel free to find your help elsewhere |
| [05:14:08] | firewaterburnz: | ok, lindoro if thats the way you want to look at it, but re-read the text above, I don't think there are many people who would find your disposition a polite one..*something to think about |
| [05:14:35] | iamlindoro: | firewaterburnz, which part did you find discourteous? |
| [05:14:40] | iamlindoro: | I'd love to know |
| [05:15:00] | firewaterburnz: | I am sure you would |
| [05:15:12] | iamlindoro: | then by all means, tell me which part hurt your feelings |
| [05:15:24] | iamlindoro: | Let's talk it out so that I may more effectively serve you in the future |
| [05:15:50] | iamlindoro: | You may now detect a note of sarcasm. That one is real. |
| [05:15:53] | firewaterburnz: | "hurt my feelings", gee thats not meant to be insulting....implying my feelings are easily bruised |
| [05:16:12] | firewaterburnz: | thats not rude |
| [05:16:15] | firewaterburnz: | really |
| [05:16:26] | iamlindoro: | firewaterburnz, You only ran afoul of me after your backhanded "thanks" and comment on my disposition... so please tell me what I said before that that led you to make such a remark |
| [05:16:46] | firewaterburnz: | do you really get paid for this attitude? |
| [05:17:06] | iamlindoro: | I don't get paid, period. |
| [05:17:13] | iamlindoro: | So come on, do tell |
| [05:17:34] | iamlindoro: | what before your "disposition" remakr led you to say something like that to someone who answered your questions quickly and accurately? |
| [05:17:40] | firewaterburnz: | lol, good, I would hate to think someone could be this way and get paid |
| [05:18:11] | iamlindoro: | So I assume that's a "You're right iamlindoro, I was a bit hasty with that remark?" |
| [05:18:11] | [R]: | firewaterburnz: oh... i'm an ahole at my job all the time |
| [05:19:02] | firewaterburnz: | lol, at least you are honest about it R |
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| [05:19:47] | iamlindoro: | Guess it is, then |
| [05:19:54] | iamlindoro: | I accept your apology |
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| [05:23:35] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, Hmm, interesting logbot bug |
| [05:23:48] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, part messages from development getting logged in users |
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| [05:33:35] | noaXess: | good morning |
| [05:33:39] | Beirdo: | oh? |
| [05:33:47] | noaXess: | Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2010-11–25 06:21 and ended on 2010-11–25 06:21. FAILED: xmltv returned error code 512. |
| [05:33:47] | noaXess: | There's guide data until 2010-11–27 06:00 (2 days). WARNING: is mythfilldatabase running? |
| [05:33:52] | noaXess: | i get this every night.. |
| [05:33:59] | noaXess: | but if i run mythfilldatabase manually it works.. |
| [05:34:01] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: got an example? |
| [05:34:11] | noaXess: | Beirdo: oh?.. yes it's 06:34 AM |
| [05:34:22] | noaXess: | hey iamlindoro |
| [05:34:36] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, [01:21:36] in log 1 |
| [05:35:04] | iamlindoro: | never actually happened here :) |
| [05:35:20] | iamlindoro: | At least, not per my log |
| [05:36:01] | Beirdo: | how the... |
| [05:36:21] | Beirdo: | !seen markk |
| [05:36:21] | MythLogBot: | markk was last seen 14 minutes 45 seconds ago |
| [05:36:29] | iamlindoro: | Heh, that's not true either |
| [05:36:30] | ** Beirdo scratches his head ** | |
| [05:36:33] | iamlindoro: | hehe |
| [05:36:55] | noaXess: | any idea why my mythtfilldatabase runs only manually? |
| [05:37:19] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, Not that you'd ever notice, I was just thinking, "Wait, he never comes in here..." |
| [05:37:30] | Beirdo: | OK, in the db it is clearly marked as channel 6 |
| [05:38:26] | Beirdo: | Ooooh, good catch |
| [05:39:03] | Beirdo: | I think I have to fix something :) it updates all the lastseens on the server for the nick |
| [05:39:06] | Beirdo: | not good |
| [05:39:35] | iamlindoro: | Heh, so will he show as 'here" now that he's back in dev? |
| [05:39:38] | iamlindoro: | !seen markk |
| [05:39:38] | MythLogBot: | markk was last seen 18 minutes 2 seconds ago |
| [05:39:44] | iamlindoro: | hmm... guess only updates on part |
| [05:39:55] | Beirdo: | or when he speaks |
| [05:39:59] | iamlindoro: | Well that's something at least :) |
| [05:41:09] | Beirdo: | but I don't see how this is possible :) |
| [05:41:52] | Beirdo: | "UPDATE `nicks` SET `lastseen` = ?, `present` = ? WHERE `chanid` = ? " "AND `nick` = ?" |
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| [05:42:05] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [05:42:05] | noaXess: | can any body explain why mythfilldatabase run's in manual mode, but not in scheduled mode? |
| [05:43:02] | wagnerrp: | noaXess: its not that we didnt hear you the first time, just that none of us has any idea |
| [05:43:10] | Beirdo: | not off the top of my head, and asking in another 2 minutes won't help :) |
| [05:43:19] | noaXess: | wagnerrp: but that's an answer... ;).. |
| [05:43:51] | [R]: | wagnerrp: oh... iw as just waiting for him to ask 10 tikmes before answering |
| [05:44:10] | noaXess: | buu |
| [05:44:16] | noaXess: | can it be a permission problem? |
| [05:44:30] | iamlindoro: | As was said yesterday or so when you asked, it is definitely that your backend user and whomever you are running it as have differing environments/setups |
| [05:45:02] | iamlindoro: | It could be anything. More than likely that you've configured xmltv (which sets up a ~/.xmltv) as your user, and your backend isn't running as that user |
| [05:45:04] | noaXess: | iamlindoro: sorry, haven't see your answer |
| [05:45:15] | iamlindoro: | noaXess, It was stuartm who answered you, yesterday |
| [05:45:22] | iamlindoro: | IIRC you responded to that answer |
| [05:45:23] | noaXess: | yeah.. backend run's as mythtv user |
| [05:45:43] | noaXess: | iamlindoro: yesterday i wasn't in this channel.. last week yes |
| [05:46:16] | noaXess: | any the xmltv file is created with another user.. so.. just change permissions or the location of the xmltv file? |
| [05:46:29] | iamlindoro: | You're right, it was someone else with the exact same issue |
| [05:46:39] | noaXess: | hehe |
| [05:46:39] | iamlindoro: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1/2010-11-23 |
| [05:46:45] | iamlindoro: | Search for "xmltv" and comments from stuartm |
| [05:47:32] | noaXess: | iamlindoro: thanks.. thats a great answer.. great help.. |
| [05:47:36] | iamlindoro: | (who would know better than I, since I'm not in an xmltv country) |
| [05:47:43] | noaXess: | i konw that you guys can do it ;) |
| [05:47:51] | [R]: | iamlindoro: but you can use xmltv to grab sd... |
| [05:48:01] | ** wagnerrp prefers bat country ** | |
| [05:48:04] | ** iamlindoro can't even tell if people are thanking him seriously any more ** | |
| [05:48:12] | iamlindoro: | Assuming that was a sincere thanks, you are welcome |
| [05:48:37] | noaXess: | :) |
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| [05:49:04] | noaXess: | for the future.. should i run myth-setup as the mythtv user? |
| [05:49:30] | iamlindoro: | you should run mythtv-setup as the user running the backend, whomever that is on your system |
| [05:49:43] | noaXess: | ok |
| [05:53:33] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: how odd, it did log him leaving in 3 channels |
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| [05:56:03] | noaXess: | i know, following question i have already asked... if i watch livetv and then press I i just see "unknown".. but with S i see the whole tv-guide.. instead of realy recreate all the channels, is there any other way to fix that? |
| [05:57:01] | iamlindoro: | No, the original advice about recreating your capture cards and listings source is the only way to fix broken input connections |
| [05:57:13] | iamlindoro: | sphery, wake up and link him to your favorite thread |
| [05:57:44] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:57:47] | noaXess: | iamlindoro: ok.. wo making a backup first |
| [05:57:54] | noaXess: | so... ^ |
| [05:58:02] | Beirdo: | anyways, I don't see how this could have logged incorrectly |
| [05:58:11] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, I just work here ;) |
| [05:58:24] | iamlindoro: | but according to those I help, I'm a horrible employee, FWIW ;) |
| [05:58:39] | kormoc: | Beirdo, what are you talking bout? |
| [05:58:58] | iamlindoro: | Whatchu talkin' bout, Beirdo |
| [05:59:09] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:59:24] | Beirdo: | well, the IRC side is all event driven |
| [05:59:52] | Beirdo: | to get to where it logs it, it looks like the server sent it, but I didn't see the message in channel either |
| [06:00:10] | kormoc: | which message? |
| [06:00:17] | Beirdo: | OOOoh, wait a minute |
| [06:00:29] | Beirdo: | markk's parting message |
| [06:00:38] | Beirdo: | Oh, this is too obvious |
| [06:00:41] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [06:01:11] | noaXess: | iamlindoro: recreating channels means, deleting videosource and tv-cards, right? |
| [06:01:13] | Beirdo: | I wonder if it isn't because it's #mythtv, and the channel search matched all 3 channels he HAD been in before |
| [06:01:15] | noaXess: | or also channels? |
| [06:08:10] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: found it |
| [06:08:23] | Beirdo: | it only happens on a quit, not a part/leave |
| [06:12:05] | Beirdo: | bot bouncing time |
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| [06:12:42] | Beirdo: | that shouldn't happen again |
| [06:12:54] | noaXess: | forgott that.. what Scan Type i need for scann all? in Full Scan i don't have my country |
| [06:13:05] | Beirdo: | I also need to fix it so the 3 messages join/quit/join don't whine too |
| [06:14:11] | Beirdo: | but that's a schema change |
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| [06:18:00] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: should be fixed :) Thanks for noticing it |
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| [06:25:24] | noaXess: | need i make a channels.conf to scan for channels in my country, switzerland? |
| [06:28:21] | wagnerrp: | a channels.conf is produced by a scan by the dvbtools 'scan' |
| [06:29:00] | noaXess: | need i make a tuned scan? |
| [06:29:06] | noaXess: | in mythtv-setup? |
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| [07:35:56] | justinh1: | hmm. must have a word with our IT guy today. my home IP address is blocked at the gateway |
| [07:36:16] | justinh1: | darn persistent dynamic IP addresses |
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| [07:48:45] | justinh1: | hmm. might have to tweak the mythweb mobile template a bit. first page I encounter on my droid phone is about 20x too tall & wide for the screen |
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| [07:57:20] | justinh1: | whut? the browser is reporting itself as Mobile Safari! |
| [08:02:42] | justinh1: | funny, I'd have thought it would've been a mobile version of chrome, being an android phone & all. hey ho |
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| [08:06:40] | wagnerrp: | chrome IS a webkit based browser |
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| [08:13:50] | justinh1: | yeah but Chrome isn't the same as safari is it |
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| [08:14:35] | justinh1: | just a bit taken aback finding out it's an Apple branded browser on a droid phone. think it's ironic |
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| [08:16:53] | wagnerrp: | is that the name you got from the UA string? |
| [08:17:07] | justinh1: | yup |
| [08:17:26] | wagnerrp: | maybe its something like microsoft calling themselves mozilla |
| [08:17:56] | justinh1: | it's quite a nippy browser whatever it is. not complaining |
| [08:18:36] | ** justinh1 googles ** | |
| [08:20:12] | justinh1: | haven't got round to rooting this thing yet. dunno if it's worth going to the trouble |
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| [08:27:35] | lannet: | quit |
| [08:27:47] | justinh1: | no, you quit |
| [08:28:08] | wagnerrp: | !trout lannet quit |
| [08:28:08] | ** MythLogBot slaps lannet with a quit trout on behalf of wagnerrp... ** | |
| [08:28:43] | lannet: | what is the quit command? |
| [08:28:49] | wagnerrp: | /quit |
| [08:29:03] | justinh1: | man $yourIRCclient |
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| [08:29:13] | Gibby: | rofl |
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| [08:29:22] | lannet: | comes back with unknown command |
| [08:29:44] | ** Gibby cries ** | |
| [08:30:15] | justinh1: | or, man – your IRC client sucks :) |
| [08:31:11] | lannet: | empathy for gnome – yep even the help sucks |
| [08:31:31] | justinh1: | won't closing the window just quit for you? |
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| [08:32:23] | justinh1: | I really detest some of the choices ubuntu is making on behalf of its users these days. I really preferred pidgin – so what did they do – went with empathy |
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| [08:36:54] | justinh1: | hmm. this whole deal about rooting my phone seems to revolve around downloading from a forum, an image that some guy made. might have to take a stab at building my own |
| [08:37:06] | justinh1: | at least then I'll know what's in it |
| [08:37:40] | wagnerrp: | well thats odd... |
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| [08:38:04] | wagnerrp: | having a failed recording in my list was causing problems with mythfs |
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| [08:42:31] | justinh1: | hope better handling of failed recordings is something that gets addressed before 0.25 |
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| [08:59:40] | justinh1: | heh was that BBC iplayer jpeg the best anyone could find for MNV? |
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| [09:24:43] | ServerSage: | Somebody had mentioned there was a new way to run mythfilldatabase a while back, I don't remember the details. I'm trying to find mention of it online, but coming up empty. Does this ring any bells? |
| [09:26:00] | [R]: | ServerSage: --dd-grab-all |
| [09:26:21] | ServerSage: | [R]: Bingo. That was it. |
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| [11:07:33] | psycodad: | hello, I have installed the mythvideo plugin on some frontends and now they all want to upgrade the DB-schema on the backend upon starting. I have seen this yet only if i try to connect with a newer client (i.e. 0.22) to an older backend (i.e. 0.21). I am bit scared from saying yes. Is this normal when installing new plugins in 0.23 |
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| [11:08:48] | stuarta: | you should run all machines at the same version |
| [11:08:58] | stuarta: | s/run/upgrade |
| [11:09:10] | stuarta: | then perform the schema update |
| [11:10:13] | psycodad: | stuarta: all backends and frontends are debian squeeze and up2date, thats why this message scares me a bit, as it only appeared after I installed mythvideo on the frontends |
| [11:10:33] | stuarta: | ah, so you've never run mythvideo before? |
| [11:11:43] | psycodad: | stuarta: nope, I started with a absolutely barebone mythtv-backend, got epg, ivtv and my special root-over-nfs-over-aufs boot going and am now extending the install with one plugin after the other |
| [11:12:20] | stuarta: | in that case, provided all the mythtv and mythplugin versions are the same across the boxes then you can let it perform the schema update. |
| [11:12:34] | stuarta: | mythvideo has it's own schema, independent of the main DB schema |
| [11:12:55] | stuarta: | this is what it's wanting to update |
| [11:13:06] | stuarta: | or in your case, install |
| [11:13:13] | psycodad: | ty stuarta: This was the answer I was after before pressing the fatal upgrade button ;-) |
| [11:13:22] | stuarta: | we probably should fix that. |
| [11:13:43] | stuarta: | unconfigured = don't prompt for upgrade |
| [11:15:09] | psycodad: | I suspected that already, because all versions match – but as said, I use myth for roughly 4 years, this new install is going to replace a 0.20 setup. And from there I only learnt fearing this update, had to restore the backends db more than once due to an ubuntu with more recent frontend trying to connect. |
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| [11:16:39] | stuarta: | if you are worried about it then take a backup yourself |
| [11:16:53] | stuarta: | myth will try to backup your database for you these days anyway |
| [11:16:59] | stuarta: | but to be safe.... |
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| [11:19:12] | justinh1: | folks should still be backing up the db on a regular basis anyway |
| [11:19:29] | ** stuarta checks DB replication ** | |
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| [11:19:50] | psycodad: | stuarta: Ohh, learnt my lesson years ago after entering all channels manually and then running mythfilldatabase-setup :) – I am dumping the db daily and filesystem backups twice ... still, i am VERY careful before changing something on a running myth-setup ;) |
| [11:20:14] | psycodad: | s/twice/twice per week/ |
| [11:20:16] | stuarta: | doh, replication broken |
| [11:22:56] | psycodad: | however, being happy with 0.20 for years and now exploring 0.23 is an exciting experience and really makes some quality time for me. There's so many little things I noticed that have improved over that time which make the whole job of setting it up quite fun. |
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| [11:34:09] | psycodad: | btw: where should I look for a solution if playback is looking fine, but the OSD is flickering and more or less unreadable ? I have different resolutions for GUI and playback which improved the playback quality but OSD is still flickering. |
| [11:34:43] | stuarta: | there's a couple of different osd dipslay methods you can try |
| [11:43:15] | psycodad: | ok, ty, its minor, but the OSD is really useful now and I would like it |
| [11:43:52] | justinh1: | huh? I thought the OSD has always been pretty useful |
| [11:44:01] | justinh1: | or did it just get even more usefulier? |
| [11:44:19] | stuarta: | go faster stripes maybe? |
| [11:44:31] | stuarta: | new paint job? |
| [11:45:59] | justinh1: | dunno, not tried 0.24 yet |
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| [11:48:03] | justinh1: | dunno if I've ever been this far behind a release |
| [11:53:16] | stuarta: | ooo almost lunchtime |
| [12:11:16] | noaXess: | have comlete recreated channels... first videosource xmltvch and then the channel list... now. how to combine xmltvid with scanned channels? |
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| [12:29:33] | justinh1: | manually editing channels is about the only way now, save for a custom-honed mysql bashing script |
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| [12:51:22] | jamiem: | kormoc: the listing seem a LOT faster in whatever version of mythweb I'm using from trunk |
| [12:51:26] | jamiem: | listings* |
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| [12:58:46] | justinh1: | what every region of the world needs is a wizard-driven config tool for mythtv-setup kept up to date with the most current information :) |
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| [13:13:03] | noaXess: | justinh1: so you mean manuall add the xmltvid into the channel? where do i get that id's? |
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| [13:22:58] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, the "wakeup slave backend" command uses myth-system so users can use other means to wakeup a slave. for instance, I have a Baytech power strip which I can send commands to to turn any of it's power ports on or off individually. Or send an X10 command to turn on an X10 device, etc.. |
| [13:22:59] | psycodad: | justinh1: compared to 0.20 it has some nice improvements yes. Maybe you guys can't remember 0.20 ;) |
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| [13:25:44] | justinh1: | I still remember 0.15 |
| [13:25:55] | justinh1: | manually entering every DVB-T channel |
| [13:26:10] | justinh1: | those were the days! |
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| [13:30:36] | noaXess: | bad... |
| [13:31:06] | noaXess: | have now recreaded channels.... now testing one channel.. but in livetv if i press i i see "unknown"... |
| [13:31:28] | noaXess: | what i'm doing wrong? |
| [13:36:44] | sphery: | noaXess: little late, but in case it helps: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [13:36:53] | sphery: | that's what iamlindoro was mentioning last night |
| [13:37:43] | sphery: | may need to do it again--sounds like you may have duplicate channels (or you just haven't given EIT enough time to get data?) |
| [13:38:20] | jamiem: | gossamer-threads is back! |
| [13:38:54] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: I may move the mythcontext wakeup for the DB host to use the wakeup slave functions you wrote--they're better than the hack in the TestDBconnection() function |
| [13:39:05] | noaXess: | sphery: if i delete all video sources.. are all program listing also removed? |
| [13:39:21] | sphery: | then users could actually specify a mac address or command for DB wakeup--just like for the slave wakeup |
| [13:39:32] | sphery: | noaXess: delete all video sources removes all channels and listings info |
| [13:39:49] | sphery: | delete all capture cards deletes capture cards and card inputs (input connections) |
| [13:41:07] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: oh, and thanks for confirming the reasoning... I think he was actually more concerned about how would it get the settings info if the db isn't running (which is the other wakeup we have) |
| [13:44:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, yeah, I've never used that other wakeup stuff, but thought it woudl be a good idea to merge it in at some point to share code. |
| [13:45:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | and I also read scrollback and saw the DB concern, but wanted to verify the reasoning behind the system call vs just using the built-in WOL code. |
| [13:48:59] | noaXess: | sphery: already done that... now i have two channels for each channel.. one with Channel Number.. and the other with the xmltvid.. |
| [13:49:52] | justinh1: | yes that's cos you ran mythfilldatabase |
| [13:50:22] | justinh1: | if a valid (scanned) channel doesn't have an xmltvid allocated when you run mythfilldatabase it'll be inserted |
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| [13:53:47] | _abbenormal: | Happy ThanksGiving Everyone |
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| [13:57:25] | noaXess: | justinh1: and now? edit each channel?.. |
| [13:57:59] | noaXess: | i have one chanel wiht only channel number.. and the other with only xmltvid and without channel number.. |
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| [13:58:34] | justinh1: | you want only one channel! |
| [13:58:48] | justinh1: | each channel must have its xmltvid set |
| [13:59:24] | ** justinh1 gives thanks that Rama still has not arrived yet ** | |
| [13:59:50] | sphery: | noaXess: that means you need to do the delete all capture cards again (to get rid of the dups), then reconfigure properly this time |
| [14:00:12] | noaXess: | sphery: done thqt now four times... no change... |
| [14:00:36] | sphery: | noaXess: i.e. do not scan for analog channels, or if you're in an area with bad listings data that can't provide suffiicent info for tuning analog channels, then scan first and set the xmltvid on the detected channels /before/ running mythfilldatabase |
| [14:00:46] | justinh1: | no change because you – or *something* is running mythfilldatabse |
| [14:00:56] | sphery: | noaXess: no change because you're not yet using the proper procedure :) |
| [14:01:01] | ** stuarta harumphs ** | |
| [14:01:48] | noaXess: | sphery: so.. delete all capture cards, source, connections.. and recreate them and do a channel scann and then manually insert xmltvid before any tv_grab/mythfilldatabase is running, right? |
| [14:02:08] | sphery: | noaXess: if you're in the US, no channel scan |
| [14:02:19] | sphery: | if you're in other areas, maybe |
| [14:02:20] | noaXess: | switzerland.. |
| [14:02:28] | noaXess: | maybe is what?.. an answer? |
| [14:02:30] | sphery: | OK, I don't know if it's required there. |
| [14:02:39] | justinh1: | it is |
| [14:02:45] | sphery: | but if you use the process above, it should work either way |
| [14:02:51] | sphery: | just a lot of extra work if it's not required |
| [14:02:53] | justinh1: | anything using XMLTV outside US/Canada requires scanning to take place |
| [14:03:12] | noaXess: | so first scanning then manually insert xmltvid's? |
| [14:03:18] | justinh1: | xmltv does not – and never has (outside USA/Canada) provided tuning info |
| [14:04:02] | sphery: | justinh1: but it provides channel numbers which map to frequency IDs in many parts of the world (exactly what Schedules Direct provides) |
| [14:04:15] | justinh1: | doesn't work for DTV though |
| [14:04:18] | sphery: | there's no tuning info in SD data... It's just a number from a table of frequencies |
| [14:04:23] | justinh1: | and doesn't always provide channel numbers either |
| [14:04:36] | noaXess: | so what should i do knwo first.. have deleted capture and sources.. |
| [14:04:49] | noaXess: | i spend hours in that.. |
| [14:04:53] | noaXess: | please... assist |
| [14:04:55] | justinh1: | sphery: frequency info/ tuning data.. same diff to me |
| [14:05:10] | sphery: | right... I was assuming it might be analog TV since mfdb never adds channels to digitally-captured sources |
| [14:05:29] | justinh1: | might as well be for all it'll work ;-) |
| [14:05:31] | sphery: | justinh1: right... but mythtv has the frequency info/tuning data. SD just provides the channel number. |
| [14:05:58] | sphery: | noaXess: best I can do is in that post I linked |
| [14:06:00] | justinh1: | well whatever. xmltv in the rest of the world generally (or maybe never) doesn't give you even that |
| [14:06:23] | justinh1: | hence the need of a great big wizard |
| [14:06:27] | sphery: | right... I don't know non-US stuff, so I defer to your knowledge |
| [14:07:23] | justinh1: | see, we don't have any central repository of that info – so to bring it to mythtv it'll have to be *us* who do it |
| [14:07:26] | noaXess: | ok created cards.. now source.. i use tv_grab_ch_search.. need i grab the channels from there? so i have a xmltv channel list? |
| [14:07:32] | justinh1: | no |
| [14:07:35] | justinh1: | SCAN |
| [14:07:49] | justinh1: | scan first, then edit every channel & add its xmltvid |
| [14:07:51] | noaXess: | without a source? |
| [14:08:05] | noaXess: | or create a video source without grabing? |
| [14:08:10] | justinh1: | the latter |
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| [14:09:19] | noaXess: | justinh1: make connections between cards and source? |
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| [14:10:46] | stuarta: | you have to |
| [14:10:56] | stuarta: | a card must have a source |
| [14:11:13] | noaXess: | ok.. |
| [14:11:24] | noaXess: | scanning now.. |
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| [14:12:37] | noaXess: | ok now i have channels from scan.. will no enter xmltvid on each channel i need.. |
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| [14:15:01] | noaXess: | should i disable on air guid in the channel options? |
| [14:15:22] | stuarta: | if you are using xmltv for your guide data yes |
| [14:15:33] | stuarta: | do it in the data source |
| [14:15:40] | stuarta: | not each channel |
| [14:15:59] | noaXess: | stuarta: what should i do there? |
| [14:16:19] | noaXess: | insert the xltvid? |
| [14:16:35] | stuarta: | yes |
| [14:16:54] | noaXess: | stuarta: what you mean in the data source? sorry.. |
| [14:18:07] | noaXess: | my mythtv-setup is in german.. and you mean video source? |
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| [14:20:28] | stuarta: | yes |
| [14:21:17] | noaXess: | stuarta: others told me to not run the grabber until i inserted manually the xmltvid into each channel.. |
| [14:22:03] | stuarta: | correct |
| [14:22:21] | noaXess: | so i need to insert the xmltvid in the channel editor, right? |
| [14:22:28] | stuarta: | correct |
| [14:22:50] | noaXess: | then why you wrote: do it in the data source...?? |
| [14:23:11] | stuarta: | you asked about disabling "on air guide" aka EIT data |
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| [14:23:37] | stuarta: | you don't need to change that setting in the channel itself |
| [14:23:40] | stuarta: | generally |
| [14:23:53] | stuarta: | since it can be disabled in the data source |
| [14:24:13] | noaXess: | aha.. ok.. sorry... i'm hours on that... |
| [14:25:08] | noaXess: | in the video source is just Perform EIT SCan, and that is disabled.. so i don't need to disable it in each channel? |
| [14:25:32] | stuarta: | correct |
| [14:25:52] | noaXess: | why are this two options with other names?.. :=) |
| [14:26:23] | stuarta: | it is possible to turn on EIT data for only certain channels but don't worry about that for now |
| [14:26:47] | noaXess: | ok.. still on inserting xmltvid... |
| [14:37:36] | noaXess: | so.. no inserted all xmltvid in each channel.. now next tep? |
| [14:40:05] | noaXess: | step ^ |
| [14:42:00] | noaXess: | grabber? or mythfilldatabase.. but there is no xmltv file for mythfilldatabase.. |
| [14:49:29] | noaXess: | hint? |
| [14:53:33] | noaXess: | what must be the same between xmltv file and chenncl list? |
| [14:53:55] | noaXess: | eg.: i have this in the xmltv file: channel 3plus #3+ |
| [14:54:11] | noaXess: | so the chanel name in mythtv-setup shoud be 3plus or 3+? |
| [14:54:24] | noaXess: | or the callsign? |
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| [15:04:05] | stuarta: | the xmltvid |
| [15:04:12] | noaXess: | ha i see... in xmltv file: channel 3plus #3+ ... 3plus is the xmltv id.. 3plus.search.ch :) right? |
| [15:04:31] | stuarta: | 3plus.search.ch |
| [15:04:42] | stuarta: | that is the xmltvid |
| [15:07:42] | noaXess: | so and in the xmltv file the part after channel and before # is the must be the same as the first part of the xmltvid.. right? |
| [15:08:18] | stuarta: | the whole xmltvid must match |
| [15:08:45] | noaXess: | i think the new tv_grab_ch_search will automaticyll add .search.ch cause all xmltvid's end with search.ch |
| [15:09:26] | stuarta: | not necessarily true, but the important bit is that you get the whole id into the configuration of the channel |
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| [15:21:11] | noaXess: | have whole ymltvid in channels... now it seems to work... mythfilldatabase si running... i tested with one channel and get the right program and also information in livetv when press I.. |
| [15:21:39] | noaXess: | so first scan for channels within mythtv-setup then grab with the grabber then fill.. |
| [15:26:19] | noaXess: | have HDSUISSE:. a hd channel.. i can watch it, but no tv-guide... cause tv.search.ch doesn't support hdsuiss tv-guide |
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| [15:26:54] | noaXess: | now, can i enable EIT scan in video source?.. but the i need to disable EIT sca an each channel that needs xmltvid, right? |
| [15:27:08] | noaXess: | and just enable EIT scan for that HD channel |
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| [15:32:28] | stuarta: | that is what you would have todo, yes |
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| [15:42:29] | noaXess: | stuarta: just run als mythfilldatabase for EIT scan? |
| [15:43:21] | stuarta: | no |
| [15:43:33] | stuarta: | EIT scan happens in the background when the backend is running |
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| [15:51:49] | anykey__: | noaXess: why wouldn't you use EIT for all channels? |
| [15:57:28] | jayman8547: | HDPVR setup question – Just got one and want to get it going with my directv stb using the built in IR blaster. I have seen the wiki and tried to get it going that way but to no avail. ANyone here using one that can get me going in the right direction? Channel change script, drivers, etc? Not real clear on the web which means it's probably pretty straight forward |
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| [16:07:45] | jayman8547: | more specifically the ir blaster part. HDPVR works well |
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| [16:39:50] | stuarta: | it's thanksgiving? |
| [16:40:33] | cesman: | stuarta: in the US, yes |
| [16:40:52] | stuarta: | quiet night then :) |
| [16:41:03] | cesman: | should be |
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| [17:04:31] | jpabq: | jayman8547, I don't know anything about using the HD-PVR's IR blaster. I have always done it this way: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Controlling_DirecT . . . SB_or_Serial . Alternately, you may be able to do it this way: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Controlling_DirecT . . . _via_Network |
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| [17:05:56] | jpabq: | jayman8547, if you have trouble with those links, just go to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki and search for directv |
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| [17:13:18] | GlemSom: | I would like to always start LiveTV at a specific channel... Before upgrading to 0.24, I could edit mythconverg.cardinput , and set startchan to the channel.... After 0.24, this seems to be overwritten somewhere, but I cannot figure out where ? |
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| [18:09:48] | Beirdo: | OMG, I have 58 episodes of Bones sitting waiting |
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| [18:11:13] | stuartm: | obviously not a very good show if you've let that many collect without watching them :) |
| [18:12:10] | Beirdo: | heeh, well, I just have so many other shows to watch, I've neglected it |
| [18:13:19] | high-rez: | Is it possible to use HDMI-CEC for your remote ? |
| [18:13:54] | high-rez: | I see that there's a device I can buy that'll act as a bridge (hdmi-cec to USB). |
| [18:15:10] | Beirdo: | doubt anyone's tried it, but cool |
| [18:16:10] | high-rez: | This is the device I'm consisdering: http://rainshadowtech.com/default_files/HDMICECUSB.htm |
| [18:16:22] | high-rez: | Then write a small bridge application that'll control myth via 6546 |
| [18:18:08] | Beirdo: | why don't you call them and ask :) |
| [18:18:11] | Beirdo: | they are local |
| [18:18:40] | high-rez: | Hmm, interesting. I like the SPD Ruler they're using :) |
| [18:19:27] | high-rez: | I wonder if I can get rid of the $8 shipping if I go pick it up |
| [18:19:37] | Beirdo: | hehe, worth asking |
| [18:20:06] | Beirdo: | lead time 1–2 weeks? Wow, they are small-time |
| [18:20:07] | high-rez: | I enabled CEC between my receiver and TV – and it receiver is now detecting when my TV is on and turning it off etc. |
| [18:20:29] | high-rez: | Beirdo: I bet they'd get good business if there was software that could actually use it. |
| [18:21:24] | Beirdo: | do even better if they can get it mass-produced and sell it via monoprice :) |
| [18:21:27] | high-rez: | I'd *love* something like this. I find my Widows MCE remote setup to be awful. It works, but it seems like, it goes 'cold' and has to warm up. Its weird – if I haven't sent any IR to it for a while, I have to walk right up to the receiver and push some buttons – and it'll wake up. Then I'm good to go |
| [18:21:54] | Beirdo: | try new batteries? |
| [18:22:38] | high-rez: | Yeah, new batteries different remote all that. |
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| [18:23:08] | high-rez: | I have 3 MCE remotes (two MCE types, a XBox 360 remote) plus my Onkyo remote – same behavior. |
| [18:23:36] | high-rez: | With two different MCE receivers, even, and on two different linux distributions (ubuntu and gentoo) and two different lirc versions :) |
| [18:24:20] | high-rez: | All that said, the IR part on my onkyo is great – so if I can have it just control everything I'd be totally happy. |
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| [18:33:52] | high-rez: | Beirdo: Emailed. |
| [18:35:31] | high-rez: | I asked him if they have any source for an API for the CEC Portion – I'm guessing not, but it would speed things up if they do ;) |
| [18:38:44] | high-rez: | Weird, his webserver is hosted at ms |
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| [18:41:22] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [18:41:31] | Beirdo: | IIS FTL |
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| [18:42:19] | Beirdo: | curse my coworkers for sucking me into Lacuna Expanse |
| [18:42:20] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:43:19] | high-rez: | into what? |
| [18:43:43] | Beirdo: | online game (brower-based) |
| [18:43:54] | high-rez: | ahh |
| [18:44:50] | Beirdo: | thankfully, one that is fairly automatable (JSON::RPC API) |
| [18:45:00] | high-rez: | This device needs to be about $50 |
| [18:45:08] | high-rez: | $100 seems overboard. $50 seems reasonable |
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| [18:45:42] | high-rez: | Really, video card manufactureres should integrate this. I'm surprised me GT240 doesn't do it native :/ |
| [18:48:48] | high-rez: | Btw... An FFMpeg developerhave been asking for people to test HD passthrough... http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=157347 |
| [18:49:07] | high-rez: | Sure hope one of you gets really bored over turkey day weekend and decides to integrate this :D |
| [18:50:10] | Beirdo: | mass-produce it, and it should be $15 |
| [18:51:37] | iamlindoro: | high-rez, just like the last two times I talked to you about this, the patches need to be committed to ffmpeg, then we need an ffmpeg sync, THEN someone can work on it |
| [18:53:06] | Beirdo: | no reason someone couldn't do it locally, but it won't likely be committed to mythtv until ffmpeg proper supports it |
| [18:53:34] | Beirdo: | it makes the ffmpeg syncs just too painful |
| [18:54:22] | Beirdo: | and not like our todo lists are exactly empty :) |
| [18:57:56] | ** high-rez cries ** | |
| [18:58:08] | high-rez: | Neato burrito though. Both of those test files play for me ;) |
| [19:00:48] | trumee: | is linuxtv.org down? |
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| [19:09:31] | wagnerrp: | way to go iamlindoro, now how am i going to learn how to play bingo |
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| [19:13:04] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, heh, huh? |
| [19:13:55] | wagnerrp: | some page you deleted off the wiki |
| [19:14:12] | wagnerrp: | 'tips-for-bingo-beginners' |
| [19:14:13] | iamlindoro: | oh, haha |
| [19:14:15] | iamlindoro: | yeah |
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| [19:20:33] | Beirdo: | OK, I think today bodes well for some testing |
| [19:24:10] | trumee: | is linuxtv.org down? |
| [19:25:21] | Beirdo: | could be |
| [19:25:32] | high-rez: | appears so |
| [19:26:00] | high-rez: | They had a spat over s2api and are reverting back to that other thing that never got finished. |
| [19:26:23] | trumee: | crap. i needed some dvb drivers for the dinosaur age centos kernel |
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| [19:27:34] | wagnerrp: | !url downforeveryoneelseorjustme linuxtv.org |
| [19:27:34] | MythLogBot: | No match for keyword downforeveryoneelseorjustme |
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| [19:27:47] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: i thought you were going to add that in |
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| [19:28:26] | wagnerrp: | !downforeveryoneelseorjustme linuxtv.org |
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| [19:28:48] | high-rez: | isit |
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| [19:34:57] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [19:35:04] | Beirdo: | that's a BIT long |
| [19:35:18] | Beirdo: | !url down linuxtv.org |
| [19:35:18] | MythLogBot: | down: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/linuxtv%2Eorg |
| [19:36:16] | Beirdo: | trumee: you could spend the time upgrading to something newer :) |
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| [19:40:40] | Beirdo: | OK, where to start testing... |
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| [19:43:15] | Beirdo: | Hmmm. LCD is on the dev box... I could set it up to do some xmltv and pretend I'm in the UK or something, and check that too |
| [19:43:33] | wagnerrp: | has this JCD ever committed any patches? |
| [19:44:04] | wagnerrp: | hes been talking big about implementing this or that for almost a year now |
| [19:44:21] | Beirdo: | JCD? |
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| [19:45:28] | wagnerrp: | james courtier dutton |
| [19:45:33] | Beirdo: | ooooh |
| [19:45:56] | wagnerrp: | some programmer who has been making the rounds, saying what the code is doing wrong and how he would make it better |
| [19:46:01] | trumee: | Beirdo: After trying ubuntu yesterday, i have come back to centos |
| [19:46:06] | wagnerrp: | s/rounds/rounds on the mailing list/ |
| [19:46:19] | Beirdo: | isn't he one of the ALSA devs? |
| [19:46:20] | trumee: | Beirdo: My asterisk server is very chopping in Ubuntu LTS |
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| [19:46:36] | Beirdo: | trumee: Ubuntu Server? |
| [19:46:44] | trumee: | in Centos it is quite stable (good call quality) |
| [19:46:46] | trumee: | Beirdo: yes |
| [19:46:51] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: very possibly, i know he is a legitimate developer somewhere |
| [19:47:03] | wagnerrp: | just never dug far enough to know where |
| [19:47:06] | Beirdo: | trumee: interesting. Well enjoy |
| [19:47:20] | trumee: | in Ubuntu the call is quite choppy.. So ubuntu/gentoo are no go right now. |
| [19:47:39] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: I think that's where he's from. So if he's saying the ALSA code is incorrect, we might wanna listen :) |
| [19:47:52] | trumee: | Only worrying thing is how to get saa7134_dvb driver in 2.6.18 kernel of centos. |
| [19:48:07] | Beirdo: | trumee: I'm sure there are MANY people using ubuntu for asterisk |
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| [19:48:23] | Beirdo: | instead of playing distro-bingo, maybe try some troubleshooting? |
| [19:48:24] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: no, hes been going on about the tuner code and DVB stream handling |
| [19:48:35] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [19:49:03] | wagnerrp: | he started a big thread complaining about the livetv latency and channel change delays a while back |
| [19:49:33] | Beirdo: | yeah well.. channel change delays aren't really under our control |
| [19:49:46] | Beirdo: | livetv latency... is inevitable |
| [19:50:01] | Beirdo: | not sure what his issue would be |
| [19:50:03] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:57:22] | wagnerrp: | didnt centos just get a new release? meaning they have a brand new modern kernel? |
| [19:58:15] | Beirdo: | or is it about to? |
| [19:58:39] | Beirdo: | I dunno. But simply jumping distros likely doesn't fix the underlying issue, whatever that may be |
| [19:59:03] | wagnerrp: | ah, RHEL was released two weeks ago |
| [19:59:08] | trumee: | uname -a |
| [19:59:09] | wagnerrp: | nothing from CentOS yet |
| [19:59:10] | trumee: | Linux pbx 2.6.18–194.26.1.el5.centos.plus #1 SMP Wed Nov 10 12:04:55 EST 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| [19:59:21] | Beirdo: | and going with Centos is just asking for a series of upgrade issues |
| [19:59:31] | wagnerrp: | man... 2.6.18... |
| [19:59:39] | wagnerrp: | that was even before the ivtv stuff got easy to deal with |
| [20:01:03] | trumee: | wagnerrp: i hope i can build things manually |
| [20:01:43] | trumee: | i have qt-4.7 on centos now, only thing missing is the saa7134 driver for my HVR-1110 dvb card |
| [20:02:09] | trumee: | and mythtv-0.23–1 is already in place. |
| [20:02:25] | Beirdo: | oO |
| [20:03:45] | wagnerrp: | oh wow, i didnt realize those backscatter machines you had to go through were a big chamber |
| [20:04:44] | Beirdo: | latest waste of taxpayer money |
| [20:05:03] | wagnerrp: | where do you get 480x480 mpeg2? |
| [20:05:14] | Beirdo: | SVCD |
| [20:05:28] | wagnerrp: | why would you commflag SVCD? |
| [20:05:40] | Beirdo: | or maybe on ivtv |
| [20:05:54] | Beirdo: | you can configure the horizontal resolution IIRC |
| [20:05:57] | wagnerrp: | ivtv should always be 720x480 or 720x576 |
| [20:06:15] | Beirdo: | I used to run mine at 640x480 |
| [20:06:16] | wagnerrp: | as explained in the detail box when you go to edit those options |
| [20:06:38] | wagnerrp: | it tells you 'bad things will happen if you dont use a horizontal resolution of 720' |
| [20:06:40] | Beirdo: | mind you, that was... 5 years back |
| [20:06:44] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [20:06:50] | Beirdo: | s/will/could/ |
| [20:06:56] | Beirdo: | heh, and we won't support it |
| [20:07:35] | Beirdo: | but very good questions |
| [20:08:03] | wagnerrp: | considering theyre recording at 5200kbps, they had to go into that screen and see those comments |
| [20:08:15] | ** Beirdo patiently waits for the uber-slow devel box to finish compiling ** | |
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| [20:08:30] | wagnerrp: | using your old P4 for that? |
| [20:08:47] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:08:56] | Beirdo: | it's the one with the LCD on it |
| [20:09:10] | Beirdo: | most testing I do live on the frontend or backend box |
| [20:09:20] | wagnerrp: | hey now, that uberslow box is as fast as my primary backend, fileserver, general purpose server, terminal server, .... |
| [20:09:24] | Beirdo: | but to test LCD stuff, kinda need the hardware |
| [20:09:27] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:09:57] | Beirdo: | but once you get used to an i7... dang is this slow |
| [20:10:35] | wagnerrp: | s/an i7/a real i7/ |
| [20:10:51] | wagnerrp: | yours is a fake... :P |
| [20:10:52] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [20:10:56] | Beirdo: | no it's not |
| [20:11:04] | wagnerrp: | sure it is |
| [20:11:05] | Beirdo: | i7–860 is not fake |
| [20:11:17] | wagnerrp: | wheres your quickpath interface? wheres your third DDR channel? |
| [20:11:38] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:11:41] | Beirdo: | bite me |
| [20:12:03] | Beirdo: | they muddle the definitions nicely, don't they? |
| [20:12:20] | Beirdo: | Intel's worse than NVidia for that |
| [20:13:54] | wagnerrp: | actually, ive been looking at the AMD server hardware recently |
| [20:14:13] | wagnerrp: | and their ridiculously cheap prices for a 6-core processor |
| [20:14:37] | wagnerrp: | the only reservation i have for those is the fact that they too only have two DDR channels |
| [20:15:16] | Beirdo: | and each core is significantly less powerful than each of mine |
| [20:15:35] | wagnerrp: | there is that too... yours are... 3GHz? |
| [20:15:37] | Beirdo: | the total CPU power of the 6-way AMD is about the same as my Quad + HT |
| [20:15:50] | Beirdo: | 2.8GHz |
| [20:16:11] | Beirdo: | the AMD has slightly more overall than mine |
| [20:16:29] | Beirdo: | but each core... not so much |
| [20:16:31] | wagnerrp: | yeah, a 2.8 quad would probably be equivalent to a 2.1 hex when you factor in architecture differences |
| [20:16:43] | Beirdo: | so for use with things that are not parallelizable... |
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| [20:16:57] | Beirdo: | like commflagging :) |
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| [20:18:43] | Beirdo: | but yeah, the hex AMD was tempting, and for parallelizable stuff, general server processing, teh AMD would be nice |
| [20:18:47] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:20:13] | wagnerrp: | oddly, their cheap stuff is their lowest power stuff |
| [20:20:23] | wagnerrp: | 50W for the 2.1GHz hex-core |
| [20:20:32] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [20:20:50] | wagnerrp: | intel is the opposite, their cheap stuff is all 130W |
| [20:20:51] | Beirdo: | doing make -j7 would be nice on that.. |
| [20:21:02] | Beirdo: | yeah. |
| [20:21:13] | wagnerrp: | no, no, no... like -j16 |
| [20:21:16] | Beirdo: | mine was... I forget how many watts. |
| [20:21:36] | Beirdo: | but certainly mid-price range |
| [20:21:44] | Beirdo: | -j16?! |
| [20:21:55] | Beirdo: | normally you do #cores + 1, no? |
| [20:22:17] | Beirdo: | well, as a starting plavce |
| [20:22:29] | wagnerrp: | that really only held true for one and two core processors |
| [20:22:47] | wagnerrp: | when you get up to 12... its really more of a scaling factor |
| [20:23:03] | Beirdo: | 12? |
| [20:23:07] | Beirdo: | the hex core is 6 |
| [20:23:18] | Beirdo: | or am I missing something here? ;) |
| [20:23:23] | wagnerrp: | and you get two of them |
| [20:23:43] | Beirdo: | you are getting dual hex-core? |
| [20:23:56] | Beirdo: | now that sounds like fun |
| [20:24:03] | wagnerrp: | no, just planning for the future |
| [20:24:11] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:24:16] | wagnerrp: | looks like those i7s are all 95W |
| [20:24:24] | Beirdo: | I want dual octal-core |
| [20:24:26] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:24:34] | Beirdo: | ah, that sounds familiar |
| [20:25:28] | wagnerrp: | yeah, those only start at $3K |
| [20:25:36] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah well |
| [20:25:58] | wagnerrp: | im being realistic here |
| [20:25:58] | Beirdo: | by the time they are affordable, the "killer" box will be quad 20-core or something |
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| [20:27:43] | Beirdo: | mmm, dodeca-core |
| [20:27:44] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [20:29:08] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [20:29:29] | Beirdo: | HughesNet is using "downloading albums of music in the time of downloading a song" as a sales pitch |
| [20:29:52] | ** Beirdo points the MPAA at them for not making it obvious they are talking about legit purchases ** | |
| [20:30:22] | wagnerrp: | yeah, you see the thing where they went after one of the PC mags for doing an article, alternatives for limewire |
| [20:31:11] | cesman: | it is all a game |
| [20:32:31] | cesman: | big business gets to play and most often consumers and most "artist" get crapped on |
| [20:32:42] | Beirdo: | welcome to AMerica |
| [20:33:17] | Beirdo: | yay, my compile finally finished |
| [20:45:01] | Beirdo: | ummm |
| [20:45:23] | Beirdo: | a perfect example of backend discovery being crap |
| [20:45:25] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:45:48] | Beirdo: | my devel box is supposed to run totally locally, but thinks it wants to be a slave |
| [20:45:52] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [20:48:09] | Beirdo: | hmmm, seems I never set it UP as its own master |
| [20:48:12] | Beirdo: | I forgive it |
| [20:50:48] | stuartm: | Beirdo: that second 'downloading' should be 'playing'? Otherwise I don't get what they are trying to say |
| [20:51:39] | Beirdo: | they are saying that their service (satellite internet) is way faster at downloading than dialup, etc |
| [20:51:50] | Beirdo: | Hughes is the company that owns DirecTV |
| [20:52:11] | stuartm: | ah, ok |
| [20:52:12] | Beirdo: | or was, who knows if they have done corp restructuring since |
| [20:52:18] | stuartm: | they just don't mention the major lag |
| [20:52:53] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:53:06] | Beirdo: | any chance we can change the db upgrade stuff |
| [20:53:22] | Beirdo: | it would be nice that for a NEW install, it just installs the current schema |
| [20:53:24] | stuartm: | every chance, do what with it exactly? |
| [20:53:34] | Beirdo: | not try to do like 50 upgrades |
| [20:54:11] | Beirdo: | unfortunately that would mean maintaining the "current schema" alongside the running upgrades |
| [20:54:13] | stuartm: | Beirdo: ah right, yeah, well that's not a terrible idea at all, but that whole slew of code needs some TLC |
| [20:54:30] | Beirdo: | but would make a new install a heck of a lot more idiot-proof |
| [20:55:20] | stuartm: | I started to make some improvements just a couple of weeks ago, but ended up abandoning it since it was going into 0.24 and I didn't want to take the risk |
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| [20:55:46] | Beirdo: | right, makes sense |
| [20:56:43] | Beirdo: | setting up the devel box... over xrdp :) |
| [20:58:39] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [20:58:48] | Beirdo: | forgot to add me to video and audio groups |
| [20:58:58] | [R]: | so i think i'm going to attempt an ubuntu install over serial console tomorrow |
| [21:00:59] | stuartm: | aww, think I might have cracked this problem but a whole series of recordings have just started and so it will have to wait until tomorrow :( |
| [21:12:08] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [21:12:12] | Beirdo: | whaaa? |
| [21:12:27] | Beirdo: | I guess I need to tell this stupid dev box it's not in the USA |
| [21:12:49] | Beirdo: | I have no choice of XMLTV, makes it hard to test that the calls to XMLTV are working :) |
| [21:15:52] | Beirdo: | stuartm: how can I force it to ask for country again? |
| [21:18:49] | stuartm: | -p works, that forces the database/backend selection but as a side-effect you get the language/country prompt as well |
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| [21:19:32] | Beirdo: | to mythtv-setup? |
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| [21:21:41] | stuartm: | Beirdo: looking at the code it doesn't actually check your country yet, you're probably not seeing the xmltv options because you don't have any xmltv scripts installed? |
| [21:21:45] | Beakster: | can anyone suggest how much this is worth? http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-elect . . . IdZ243377513 |
| [21:21:54] | Beirdo: | stuartm: ooooh. that could be :) |
| [21:21:55] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [21:22:50] | Beirdo: | that's undoubtedly the issue :) |
| [21:22:59] | [R]: | Beakster: $10 |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | thanks for the reminder |
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| [21:23:29] | Beakster: | why $10? not a fan of rear projection? |
| [21:23:34] | stuartm: | we stopped hardcoding them a long time ago, instead we check what is installed and whether they support the minimum capabilities we require |
| [21:23:36] | Beakster: | thinking of getting it for my media centre |
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| [21:24:04] | Beirdo: | makes perfect sense |
| [21:25:36] | stuartm: | Beirdo: might be easier if I test the xmltv stuff? |
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| [21:25:59] | Beirdo: | sure, probably would be, but you'd need the entire branch :) |
| [21:26:25] | Beirdo: | you're welcome to pull from me if you want |
| [21:26:53] | Beirdo: | it will take a while though for the initial pull (can't wait until I can push the branch to github) |
| [21:26:55] | stuartm: | err, hmm |
| [21:28:59] | stuartm: | I'll offer support from afar then ;) |
| [21:29:06] | Beirdo: | hehe, sounds good :) |
| [21:29:39] | Beirdo: | and once it's available easier, feel free to double-check it ;) |
| [21:30:50] | Beirdo: | I should be able to test with xmltv pulling my datadirect data |
| [21:30:56] | stuartm: | yup |
| [21:32:22] | Beirdo: | hmmm, that didn't go well |
| [21:32:25] | Beirdo: | let me try again |
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| [21:32:40] | Beirdo: | clicked on configure, and it went wonky on me |
| [21:34:14] | Beirdo: | tv_find_grabbers definitely worked |
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| [21:37:14] | Beirdo: | oooh, that's one messy configure |
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| [21:41:28] | stuartm: | oh yeah, that's what I'm replacing in 0.25 |
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| [21:41:45] | stuartm: | terminal based configuration initiated from a gui app, ick |
| [21:41:51] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:42:02] | Beirdo: | and no cursor, no autoscroll :) |
| [21:42:15] | stuartm: | they implemented an api for configuration instead, so we'll be using that in future |
| [21:42:16] | Beirdo: | but at least I've seen mythterminal in action |
| [21:42:18] | Beirdo: | bleh |
| [21:44:38] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:44:40] | Beirdo: | and a failure |
| [21:44:49] | Beirdo: | no such file or directory |
| [21:45:01] | Beirdo: | I think I missed a "run this in a shell" flag |
| [21:45:54] | Beirdo: | myth_system('tv_grab_na_dd'): Error: execv() failed: No such file or directory |
| [21:45:57] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [21:51:12] | Beirdo: | what capabilities are we looking for? |
| [21:51:43] | stuartm: | 'baseline' atm |
| [21:51:58] | Beirdo: | OK. so more bugs. :) |
| [21:52:11] | Beirdo: | Grabber has capabilities: |
| [21:52:22] | Beirdo: | and none listed, but running by hand shows em |
| [21:52:22] | stuartm: | we used to require manualconfig but that was dropped, in future we'll require or at least strongly recommend 'apiconfig' |
| [21:56:12] | stuartm: | last time I checked, not enough grabbers were supporting 'preferredmethod' when they really should be, but that's not really relevant atm ;) |
| [21:57:04] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | this is being odd... but this is why I'm testing :) |
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| [22:18:52] | Saviq: | hi all, switched to 0.24 today and I'm experiencing some video jitter / judder from time to time |
| [22:19:44] | Saviq: | all frames seem to be there, the video sort of speeds up and slows back down several times during like 5s |
| [22:19:56] | Saviq: | then, everythings back to normal for some minutes |
| [22:20:04] | [R]: | what do the logs say |
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| [22:24:41] | Beirdo: | got it :) |
| [22:24:49] | Beirdo: | a good test case. |
| [22:25:17] | Beirdo: | it opened, ran, closed so fast... and we never flushed the remainders from stdout into a buffer |
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| [22:31:50] | Saviq: | [R]: -v playback,audio shows "Video is xxxxx frames behind audio (too slow), dropping frame to catch up." |
| [22:32:23] | Saviq: | that's DVB, SD on VDPAU |
| [22:32:42] | Saviq: | what's interesting, I didn't experience it on HD content... |
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| [22:35:27] | Beirdo: | oh wow. |
| [22:35:42] | Beirdo: | Use of initialized value spew from tv_grab_na_dd |
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| [22:52:17] | stuartm: | I don't know that tv_grab_na_dd gets a whole lot of testing, certainly most mythtv users don't use it |
| [22:52:31] | stuartm: | seems to pass the nightly status checks though – http://www.crustynet.org.uk/~xmltv-tester/squeeze/nightly/ |
| [22:53:05] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's at least testing what I need to see mythtv-wise |
| [22:53:12] | Beirdo: | but the script itself seems to be borked |
| [22:53:43] | Beirdo: | it finds 952 programs... for each day it pulls |
| [22:53:49] | Beirdo: | and they are the same every day |
| [22:54:04] | Beirdo: | BUT it is showing me that the launching of the processes is correct |
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| [22:54:53] | Beirdo: | and found a bug in our IO code in the process. Fixed ;) |
| [22:55:19] | Beirdo: | haven't tested the --preferredmethod yet as that script doesn't support it |
| [22:56:22] | Beirdo: | only way to be sure this stuff works is to make it run :) |
| [23:00:58] | stuartm: | Beirdo: is that the nightly build or current release? I guess Robert Eden would appreciate the bug report |
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| [23:01:07] | stuartm: | !seen rmeden |
| [23:01:07] | MythLogBot: | rmeden was last seen 106 days 22 hours 17 minutes 4 seconds ago |
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| [23:01:42] | Beirdo: | it's whatever apt-get got me :) |
| [23:01:46] | Beirdo: | so likely old crap |
| [23:02:19] | Beirdo: | I could get more up-to-date ones, but I'm sure he's fixed it by now |
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| [23:08:08] | Beirdo: | OK, need to find me an xmltv grabber that does the preferredmethod so I can exercise that chunk of code |
| [23:08:57] | Beirdo: | tv_grab_uk_rt it is |
| [23:13:43] | iamlindoro: | rmeden was in #mythtv a day or so ago, I thought |
| [23:13:54] | iamlindoro: | win! |
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| [23:17:04] | stuartm: | Beirdo: might be cool to link channels so that !seen produces results like "Beirdo was last seen here 106 days 22 hours 17 minutes 4 seconds ago. But was seen in #mythtv 1 day ago" |
| [23:17:33] | stuartm: | or "But is still in #mythtv" |
| [23:18:31] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [23:18:55] | Beirdo: | well, the problem is configuring which channels are visible to each other |
| [23:19:07] | Beirdo: | as the bot can be in many many channels :) |
| [23:19:35] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [23:19:56] | Beirdo: | "XMLTV requires a Date::Manip timezone of +0000 to work properly" |
| [23:20:15] | Beirdo: | Current Date::Maip timezone is 1. |
| [23:20:16] | stuartm: | yeah, I'm just thinking out loud, I don't expect you to start working on the feature as a result :) |
| [23:20:21] | Beirdo: | pretttty |
| [23:20:26] | Beirdo: | hehe, yeah, I like the idea |
| [23:21:20] | stuartm: | Beirdo: eww, those Date::Manip bugs were fixed a while back |
| [23:21:47] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [23:21:50] | stuartm: | the Date::Manip author completely changed the behaviour and it broke a few scripts as a result |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | ubuntu has ... old... stuff :) |
| [23:22:10] | Beirdo: | at least the version I have installed |
| [23:22:26] | Beirdo: | meh, I can see it running the sub-processes correctly |
| [23:22:52] | Beirdo: | and then reading the file and populating (from na_dd) even if it was only one day's worth of data |
| [23:23:04] | Beirdo: | that's not myth_system's fault, that's my crappy script set |
| [23:23:38] | Beirdo: | and uk_rt does run the --preferredmethod, and I saw it working (dumped the returned value to the console) |
| [23:24:19] | Beirdo: | so I'll move on to the next set. This looks to be working as best as I can test at the moment, and even uncovered a bug :) |
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| [23:36:02] | acidfreeze: | could someone help me ... i have mythweb installed but when i try to record programs i am not able to access them |
| [23:36:34] | acidfreeze: | i get a File not found when i try to download them. It appears it is looking for them in domain.com/pl which doesnt exist |
| [23:39:19] | russell5: | i hate that micro atx is popular now |
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| [23:43:48] | acidfreeze: | where is it getting /pl? |
| [23:43:54] | acidfreeze: | http://codecloud.info//pl/stream/1004/1290362633.asx |
| [23:44:44] | acidfreeze: | doesnt exist.. is that because the recording failed? |
| [23:46:03] | Beirdo: | probably a config issue. Check the mythweb.conf stuff |
| [23:46:51] | acidfreeze: | k |
| [23:49:22] | acidfreeze: | can you recommend a good doc for config? |
| [23:49:37] | acidfreeze: | the one i used didn't have anything about it |
| [23:50:16] | Beirdo: | ummm, the conf file is pretty good docs, lasta I looked |
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| [23:50:32] | Beirdo: | Woohoo. lcdserver make frontend go BOOM |
| [23:50:35] | Beirdo: | sidh |
| [23:50:38] | Beirdo: | sigh even |
| [23:50:48] | acidfreeze: | so i should mythweb.conf.lighttpd to mythweb.conf? |
| [23:51:04] | Beirdo: | Syntax Error |
| [23:52:10] | acidfreeze: | im saying i don't see much to configure excep auth |
| [23:52:20] | acidfreeze: | i do see mod rewrite.. |
| [23:52:23] | Beirdo: | and rewrite |
| [23:52:26] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [23:52:32] | acidfreeze: | it seems right |
| [23:52:59] | acidfreeze: | 1 sec pasting |
| [23:53:04] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [23:53:21] | acidfreeze: | so im wondering if it is because of my tuner |
| [23:53:35] | acidfreeze: | it doesnt work in the frontend under live tv |
| [23:53:45] | Beirdo: | how would your tuner possibly give you a bad path from mythweb? |
| [23:53:59] | acidfreeze: | im saying the file doesnt exist because it doesnt record |
| [23:54:15] | acidfreeze: | http://pastebin.com/Z3bSXwJK |
| [23:55:01] | acidfreeze: | ivtv-tune works great.. what card do you use? |
| [23:55:30] | Beirdo: | I don't do lighttpd |
| [23:55:51] | Beirdo: | I use HDPVR, HVR-2250, PVR-250, HD Homerun |
| [23:55:52] | acidfreeze: | i have apache also so i might switch over |
| [23:56:00] | acidfreeze: | oh im using pvr-150 |
| [23:56:04] | acidfreeze: | hoping it will even work |
| [23:56:55] | Beirdo: | should work fine |
| [23:57:46] | acidfreeze: | hmmm |
| [23:58:01] | acidfreeze: | man not a lot of support for this ... |
| [23:58:18] | Beirdo: | for what? |
| [23:58:28] | acidfreeze: | configuring this.. |
| [23:58:36] | acidfreeze: | mythtv... not mythweb |
| [23:59:23] | acidfreeze: | im just saying i don't see it is record period |
| [23:59:47] | acidfreeze: | im looking in the storage dirs i setup in the mythsetup and nothing.. |
| [23:59:58] | acidfreeze: | so perhaps not a rewrite issue |
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