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| [00:37:11] | [R]: | damnit, i have 3 shows at 8pm on wednesdays |
| [00:37:21] | [R]: | i used to catch one of them on friday... but it looks like this week its not on friday |
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| [01:03:23] | magpie_: | Greetings all |
| [01:03:48] | magpie_: | I am looking for a quick shop on a haugpauge (or best of breed) digital tv tuner card for Linux. |
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| [01:10:01] | JEDIDIAH__: | what exactly do you want to record? |
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| [02:03:37] | k_ross_: | magpie_: you don't say what source you'll be recording from. is it an antenna? digitial cable? also, what slot type in your computer? pci? pci express? |
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| [02:28:52] | [R]: | excellent... |
| [02:29:03] | [R]: | i wrote a script that figures out if cox changed the frequencies of the QAM channels |
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| [02:49:02] | skd5aner: | [R]: oh yea, sounds very useful! |
| [02:49:09] | skd5aner: | [R] how's it work? |
| [02:49:40] | [R]: | skd5aner: it violates some TOS |
| [02:49:45] | [R]: | so i'd rather not say in public channel |
| [02:50:58] | skd5aner: | np, such is the world we live in ;) |
| [02:51:40] | wagnerrp: | scrape the SiliconDust website or something? |
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| [02:53:13] | [R]: | lol |
| [02:53:19] | [R]: | no comment |
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| [02:58:18] | ** [R] ponders automatically fixing the db... ** | |
| [02:58:58] | wagnerrp: | if you have an HDHR, ive got an external scanner in python sitting around here somewhere |
| [02:59:03] | wagnerrp: | written pre-0.22 |
| [02:59:22] | [R]: | i can't scan |
| [02:59:32] | [R]: | because they dont always have the callsign on all the chnanels |
| [02:59:41] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [02:59:57] | [R]: | oh wait... they have the callsign... not the channel number |
| [03:00:07] | [R]: | maybe i could just do that |
| [03:00:19] | [R]: | i have scanning though |
| [03:00:20] | [R]: | its so slow |
| [03:01:26] | skd5aner: | Can the telnet control socket send near-realtime info back, like playback position, what's playing, etc (similiar to what's sent to an LCD)? |
| [03:01:36] | wagnerrp: | what telnet control socket? |
| [03:01:56] | skd5aner: | always "technical" |
| [03:02:02] | skd5aner: | "frontend control socket" |
| [03:02:03] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [03:02:11] | wagnerrp: | you use the telnet application against that |
| [03:02:27] | wagnerrp: | and run 'query playback' when playing something with non-latin1 characters |
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| [03:02:32] | [R]: | skd5aner: look at how the lcd stuff does it |
| [03:02:33] | wagnerrp: | something bad is gonna happen |
| [03:02:58] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: query playback doesn't appear on the list of commandso n the wiki |
| [03:03:14] | wagnerrp: | check out mythremctl.py on the wiki for an example of how to do that kind of access over the control socket |
| [03:03:51] | wagnerrp: | that reminds me, i need to update the wiki copy for 0.24 |
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| [03:03:57] | skd5aner: | [R]: yea – there's also something that foobum has put together called MDD, which is a supliment to mythdroid that sites between the frontend and mythlcdserver and does the same thing to send that data back to an android device in real time |
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| [03:04:18] | [R]: | well if you know how to do it.. |
| [03:04:22] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: no, looks like its just 'quert location' |
| [03:04:33] | wagnerrp: | if youre in playback, it will give you playback status |
| [03:04:42] | skd5aner: | ah, so it's a bit dynamic? |
| [03:04:45] | wagnerrp: | in the NVP anyway |
| [03:04:53] | wagnerrp: | you get nothing from mythbrowser or mythmusic |
| [03:04:57] | skd5aner: | what about something like mythmusic |
| [03:04:57] | skd5aner: | ok |
| [03:05:06] | [R]: | i need an LCD for my backend |
| [03:05:12] | [R]: | so i know what its doing when its turned on |
| [03:05:15] | wagnerrp: | none that i know of |
| [03:05:27] | wagnerrp: | maybe it does, i dont know if ive ever actually tested it |
| [03:05:46] | wagnerrp: | also note that the current implementation in mythremctl.py is /bad/ |
| [03:05:57] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: cool, I was asking around earlier in regards to a project I might take on, but definitely want to leverage as much existing work as I can |
| [03:06:01] | wagnerrp: | updating the status once a second, and querying several statistics each time |
| [03:06:04] | wagnerrp: | its very laggy |
| [03:06:51] | skd5aner: | who wrote mythremctl.py? |
| [03:07:19] | ** wagnerrp looks at the page ** | |
| [03:07:29] | skd5aner: | yea, der – I see it now |
| [03:07:55] | skd5aner: | looks interesting |
| [03:09:05] | skd5aner: | I was mentioning earlier – I've got a remote, that can interface with 2-way RS232... but obviously a direct 2-way interface to MythTV via RS232 doesn't exist, but perhaps some kind of translator to the control socket could work |
| [03:10:09] | skd5aner: | it would be nice if I could have the touch display on the remote know exactly where it is in the menus, ability to display what's playing/length/etc |
| [03:11:06] | wagnerrp: | sounds more like an old PDA |
| [03:11:09] | skd5aner: | since the control socket could query that, I would just have to write the wrapper it... |
| [03:11:19] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: yea, it almost EXACTLY is |
| [03:11:38] | skd5aner: | Unfortunately, it's not IP based (although the manufacture has one that is) |
| [03:11:39] | wagnerrp: | old phillips pronto? |
| [03:12:06] | skd5aner: | Nevo Q50 http://www.mynevo.com/html.php?page_id=345 w/ a NevoConnect – http://www.mynevo.com/html.php?page_id=347 |
| [03:12:18] | skd5aner: | In fact, I believe the OS is Windows CE based |
| [03:12:53] | wagnerrp: | ah, so its designed more for home automation systems |
| [03:13:26] | skd5aner: | Well, it can handle home automation tasks, sure |
| [03:14:14] | skd5aner: | but I wouldn't say that's its primary aim per say |
| [03:14:37] | skd5aner: | I've had it for a couple years, but just pulled it out of the box last week to finally work on |
| [03:14:43] | skd5aner: | (long story) |
| [03:15:35] | skd5aner: | regardless – thought it would be interesting if the remote was "smart" enough to know the context of what it's controlling, rather than what you typically have to do with with universal remotes of these kind, like harmony remotes... |
| [03:16:03] | skd5aner: | which is assume that it knows where it is based on the last button you hit on the remote and that nothing else could possibly control the device |
| [03:16:51] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: here's some examples of some widgets a guy came up with – http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewpost.cgi?991266 |
| [03:18:14] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: but it works GREAT without the "smarts" as an IR remote which has process flow – Program a button to the Live TV jump point, change screens that give buttons useful to that function, go into mythmusic, so a screen of button useful to that, etc |
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| [03:18:49] | wagnerrp: | so its an activity-based remote |
| [03:19:05] | skd5aner: | however, if I don't use the jumppoint buttons to do so, and just navigate the menus with up/down/left/right/select (or use a different device), then of course the remote has no clue that it should offer up those contextual screens |
| [03:19:25] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: yes, in it's current form |
| [03:20:40] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: well, in all forms... |
| [03:21:32] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: but, the additional NevoConnect can allow 2-way communications back to the remote (hence the desire to be able to perhaps leverage the frontend control socket-to-RS232) |
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| [03:22:24] | skd5aner: | the only home automation functionallity built into the remote itself is that it's got a z-wave transceiver built into the remote to send signals to HA devices that leverage that standard |
| [03:22:30] | skd5aner: | which, I have none of |
| [03:22:44] | skd5aner: | It uses RF to talk to the NevoConnect |
| [03:23:54] | skd5aner: | I'm really happy with the remote – burned through 3 harmonys and an RC5 remote over the past 6 years – and have been using keyboard for the past year |
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| [03:26:43] | skd5aner: | A few hours of programming in the NevoStudio app, which is pretty powerful and fun to use, and I've got a remote that far exceeded the harmonys I had |
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| [03:28:35] | skd5aner: | what's the best "pastebin" to share images? |
| [03:29:11] | iamlindoro: | imagebin.ca? |
| [03:29:22] | skd5aner: | thanks |
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| [03:42:20] | lwizardl: | hello |
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| [03:46:32] | lwizardl: | anyone here ever make mkv dual audio dvd rips with selectible subs? I'm trying to make rips to store on my media drive |
| [03:48:33] | k_ross_: | i use handbrake quite often to make dvd rips with multiple audio tracks, but never with subs |
| [03:50:01] | lwizardl: | yeah tried handbrake doesn't work for me |
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| [03:56:15] | Lumiere: | can anyone tell me how much bandwidth an average broadcast (between frontend and backend) in HD would take? |
| [03:58:35] | [R]: | depends on the encoding, bitrate, etc |
| [04:00:17] | Lumiere: | [R]: Verizon FiOS HD stream? |
| [04:00:26] | Lumiere: | would be the incoming... |
| [04:00:36] | [R]: | [08:58:32] [R] depends on the encoding, bitrate, etc |
| [04:00:41] | [R]: | oh, and the resolutio |
| [04:00:56] | [R]: | Lumiere: but just record something and look at the filesize |
| [04:01:05] | Lumiere: | I don't have a myth setup... |
| [04:01:28] | Lumiere: | I was looking at something like a slingbox |
| [04:01:37] | Lumiere: | and was wondering if I could do it with myth |
| [04:01:56] | Lumiere: | at decent enough quality to be worthwhile |
| [04:02:13] | [R]: | slingbox reencodes |
| [04:02:14] | [R]: | myth doesn't |
| [04:02:41] | Lumiere: | ic |
| [04:02:59] | Lumiere: | thanks for your time |
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| [04:21:37] | jgeboski: | I'm thinking of doing a MythTV setup with my DirecTV (H23–600 Box). I was looking at the wiki page and was just wondering if there is anything else I should be away of. I have yet to purchase and hardware. |
| [04:21:50] | [R]: | "anything else"? |
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| [04:23:02] | jgeboski: | Getting this to operate. I'm a complete novice when it comes to MythTV |
| [04:23:13] | [R]: | you need a capture card and a listings source |
| [04:23:23] | [R]: | the documentation explains everyhting you need to do and have |
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| [04:24:11] | jgeboski: | The only thing that kind of had me a bit concerned was getting it to change the channels on my DirecTV box |
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| [04:24:41] | jgeboski: | but it appears it just USB to USB with PC and Box or IR |
| [04:25:12] | [R]: | yup |
| [04:26:25] | jgeboski: | Essentially then it has to be ported back to my TV. If I have and HD capture card, is there any loss in quality? |
| [04:26:38] | [R]: | there is no "hd capture card" |
| [04:26:45] | jgeboski: | no? |
| [04:26:58] | [R]: | there is an hdpvr... which captures component and is an external box |
| [04:27:22] | jgeboski: | well, will there be quality loss doing this? |
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| [04:27:30] | [R]: | of course |
| [04:27:34] | [R]: | doubt you'll notice it though |
| [04:28:15] | Shadow__X: | hd pvr is under 200 now but i wouldnt mind a newegg sale bringing it down to 150 |
| [04:28:25] | [R]: | i got mine for 175 |
| [04:28:29] | [R]: | it was a steal |
| [04:28:36] | Shadow__X: | [R]: how long ago |
| [04:28:39] | [R]: | um |
| [04:28:41] | jgeboski: | ok, I can deal with some loss and am willing to work with loss, but I'm worried it will be to a large extent |
| [04:28:44] | [R]: | a long time |
| [04:28:48] | [R]: | a year and a half i think |
| [04:28:56] | jgeboski: | [R]: are you using DirecTV? |
| [04:28:58] | Shadow__X: | i have seen it go onsale but i didnt have the money at the time sadly enough |
| [04:29:06] | [R]: | jgeboski: no... but what does that have to do with anyting? |
| [04:29:16] | [R]: | i said it captures component |
| [04:29:30] | jgeboski: | no, was just curious |
| [04:30:18] | [R]: | my butt would hurt too much if i had directv |
| [04:30:44] | jgeboski: | why's that? |
| [04:31:09] | [R]: | cuz its so much money |
| [04:31:12] | [R]: | it'd be like they were raping me |
| [04:31:12] | [R]: | haha |
| [04:31:19] | jgeboski: | oh haha |
| [04:31:26] | jgeboski: | It's that or Dish |
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| [04:34:31] | jgeboski: | [R]: will this kill the 1080i resolution? |
| [04:34:37] | [R]: | kill? |
| [04:34:47] | jgeboski: | mess with it |
| [04:35:01] | [R]: | how would it "mess" with it? |
| [04:35:28] | jgeboski: | put it to MythTV and back |
| [04:35:39] | jgeboski: | s/put/porting |
| [04:35:48] | [R]: | huh? |
| [04:37:12] | jgeboski: | putting it through the capture card assuming I get hdpvr, I'm worried that the resolution will get messed up some how |
| [04:37:25] | k_ross_: | the hd-pvr can capture 1080i and 720p (as well as standard definition sources). there is a very slight loss of quality when capturing via an hd-pvr, but you wouldn't notice it unless you compared side by side. i'm very happy with mine. |
| [04:38:03] | jgeboski: | k_ross: alright, that's what I was wondering |
| [04:38:44] | jgeboski: | I'm going to do a some more research on this. Many thanks [R] and k_ross_ |
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| [04:44:45] | jgeboski: | k_ross_: What hdpvr device are you using? |
| [04:46:04] | k_ross_: | "lsusb" says Bus 001 Device 004: ID 2040:4902 Hauppauge HD PVR |
| [04:46:04] | [R]: | theres only 1 |
| [04:46:40] | jgeboski: | ah ok, It's probably the one I just landed on, on newegg |
| [04:47:05] | k_ross_: | well some of the newer models have a device ID that isn't recognized by the driver in some kernels, i think |
| [04:47:24] | k_ross_: | but now i realize that isn't what you were asking :) |
| [04:47:27] | jpabq: | It is a little cheaper from Amazon. |
| [04:47:44] | jgeboski: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116030 |
| [04:47:51] | jgeboski: | That's the one I was looking at |
| [04:49:06] | k_ross_: | oh i wouldn't count on using the IR receiver or blaster that are built into it, i'd recommend getting a cheap MCE USB receiver |
| [04:49:24] | jpabq: | a little over $13 cheaper from Amazon as long as you don't live in WA. |
| [04:50:58] | jgeboski: | alright |
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| [05:51:06] | mtrax: | how many people have upgraded ? |
| [05:51:18] | [R]: | none |
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| [05:52:34] | wagnerrp: | millions |
| [05:53:26] | [R]: | wagnerrp: do you know anything about lcds with myth? |
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| [05:54:37] | [R]: | the 2 line ones |
| [05:54:47] | wagnerrp: | never used one |
| [05:55:09] | [R]: | if i can find one on the cheap, i think i might get one for my backend |
| [05:56:43] | mtrax: | so I assume no major issues cropped up so far.. |
| [05:57:11] | [R]: | mtrax: read the mailing lists |
| [05:57:26] | mtrax: | yep . read them.. |
| [05:57:40] | [R]: | than you would know all the issues |
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| [05:58:43] | mtrax: | seem to be some audio issues mainly .. right? |
| [05:59:06] | [R]: | whatever the peple are complaining about on the ml |
| [05:59:18] | [R]: | i tend to ignore them cuz 99/100... its pebkac |
| [05:59:54] | mtrax: | thats what I figured. |
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| [06:03:37] | mtrax: | whats the download counts ? or is there another measure of upgraded users |
| [06:07:33] | [R]: | 5 million |
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| [06:11:12] | mtrax: | wow.. thats alot |
| [06:11:44] | [R]: | its up to 8 million now |
| [06:12:15] | wagnerrp: | billions served |
| [06:12:38] | wagnerrp: | mtrax: the hint here is that we have no meaningful statistics for anything |
| [06:13:15] | mtrax: | understood, but just a finger in the air these numbers are really big |
| [06:13:28] | [R]: | ooo... i think i found a project for my TI microcontroller... yippie |
| [06:13:42] | [R]: | mtrax: well, its down to 5 now |
| [06:13:55] | wagnerrp: | any reasonable estimate our our user base puts it somewhere in the tens of thousands |
| [06:13:59] | [R]: | mtrax: ok... its 12 now |
| [06:14:22] | wagnerrp: | figure probably 80% of those will have upgraded to 0.24 by the time 0.25 comes out next year |
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| [06:16:16] | mtrax: | so at what stage will it be named to v1.0 |
| [06:16:41] | mtrax: | not that its important but some people see it that way.. |
| [06:16:56] | wagnerrp: | when the committee determines all of the major goals have been met |
| [06:17:06] | Shadow__X: | 36 years |
| [06:17:21] | wagnerrp: | right now, pretty much all thats left is usability issues |
| [06:17:36] | wagnerrp: | setup is confusing to new users |
| [06:17:53] | wagnerrp: | there are far too many settings than most people need |
| [06:18:00] | mtrax: | yes , the new web-base config should address these |
| [06:18:04] | Shadow__X: | and most people dont rtm? |
| [06:18:15] | wagnerrp: | no one RTMs |
| [06:18:25] | ikke-t: | And audio is perhaps broken with pulse |
| [06:18:36] | wagnerrp: | oh? |
| [06:18:41] | Shadow__X: | i have at least skimmed the manual when i have had problems before |
| [06:19:15] | ikke-t: | At least i need to manually un-mute it at each boot |
| [06:19:59] | [R]: | pulse is sucky |
| [06:20:01] | [R]: | what do you expect |
| [06:20:07] | ikke-t: | Haven't had enough time yet to investigate how to fix it properly |
| [06:20:48] | [R]: | remove it |
| [06:20:50] | [R]: | that fixes it |
| [06:21:05] | ikke-t: | i agree i would not need it, and it came with os upgrade |
| [06:21:50] | ikke-t: | But it's listed as feature, so it is a bug |
| [06:22:22] | ikke-t: | Unless it turns out to be just me ;) |
| [06:23:55] | ikke-t: | Thanks btw to whoever fixed the cutlist yesterday! Now it doesn't hang anymore |
| [06:25:50] | [R]: | saweet |
| [06:25:56] | [R]: | i was gonna upgrade thanksgiving weekend |
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| [06:26:02] | [R]: | looks like i have only 1 nonimportant recording that saturday |
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| [06:59:05] | Shadow__X: | are there plans to include plugins in the os x builds? |
| [07:00:10] | [R]: | you should talk to whomever does the script |
| [07:01:00] | Shadow__X: | who is in charge of that because there is also still an issue with .jpeg files not showing up in mythvideo |
| [07:03:38] | Beirdo: | why would .jpg be in myth*video*? |
| [07:04:47] | Shadow__X: | Beirdo: the metadata .jpegs |
| [07:04:58] | Beirdo: | K |
| [07:05:26] | [R]: | sounds like qt isn't compiled properly |
| [07:05:28] | Shadow__X: | they do not want to stream. I tried before unsuccessfully to figure out the issue |
| [07:06:27] | Shadow__X: | [R]: yeah i know its a qt issue and the plugin for .jpeg but, i installed qt from nokia and i still had the issue. I of course could be doing something wrong but, i am sure i am not the only one having this issue |
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| [08:11:07] | dserban: | oh hello |
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| [08:12:20] | dserban: | So, in my fun experiments with .24 it seems that somehow it got some 0 byte recordings that are missing, but in the db, and it seems that when I watch livetv, when paused it shows me at 0:01 second of 0:01 ... the second number never increases. Is this a known issue? Or am I special? |
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| [08:20:04] | dserban: | I'm special then :P |
| [08:20:45] | Shadow__X: | dserban: you should normally wait at the very minimum around 30 minutes |
| [08:20:55] | Shadow__X: | but at times longer |
| [08:21:19] | Shadow__X: | i personally am unsure what the issue is but if you look at the logs that might point you in the right direction |
| [08:21:27] | dserban: | no worries :P I'm trying to figure it out on my own. Again, my google-fu is weak. |
| [08:22:13] | dserban: | Yeah, I have looked at the logs, on both ends. They don't make sense, but there's nothing there except for the backend stating that it will not remove the recorded entry as it doesn't exist on the filesystem. |
| [08:22:39] | dserban: | I vaguely remember a few of the devs talking about 0byte entries, I just don't remember the cause/solution. |
| [08:23:32] | Shadow__X: | i know on my system i get zero byte recordings when i have to prime my firewire connection |
| [08:24:05] | Shadow__X: | but i am sure there are other reasons to. i rather not speculate as to what is wrong with your system. often times this is worse than just waiting patiently |
| [08:24:23] | dserban: | Well, I think in my case it got an actual file, and somehow (without my useless intervention) the file disappeared. Now it's in the db, but not on the filesystem. |
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| [08:24:40] | dserban: | Aye, no worries, just bantering. |
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| [08:26:36] | drindt: | i have a sporadic problem with my mythfrontend, when i choose from the mediathek a record and want playback them it appears on the screen "please wait..." and nothing more happens, in the logs i found: http://fpaste.org/UB6e/ what can i do now? |
| [08:27:58] | dserban: | drindt, I'm no expert, but do you have VDPAU setup and installed? |
| [08:28:15] | dserban: | You can change your playback settings to not use VDPAU in the frontend setup. |
| [08:29:06] | Shadow__X: | drindt: you might want to also make sure you update your driver |
| [08:30:17] | drindt: | dserban, Shadow__X: the problem is when i restart mythfrontend it works as expected again, it works multiple hours/days and then it appears again. i cant reproduce it whats happen. |
| [08:30:33] | drindt: | nor what leads to that error... |
| [08:30:51] | dserban: | Hmm, odd. I'm out on suggestions, sorry. |
| [08:31:11] | drindt: | dserban: no problem, the will is counting. thank you |
| [08:32:32] | Shadow__X: | drindt: i am unsure what the problem is but i have read about people having issues with vdpau and not updating their driver |
| [08:32:41] | Shadow__X: | also you can try using vdpau-slim |
| [08:32:48] | Shadow__X: | if thats a proper option |
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| [08:33:33] | drindt: | Shadow__X: you mean the vdpau version is not matching the version what myth is expecting? |
| [08:33:54] | drindt: | Shadow__X: i dont understand which driver is here meant |
| [08:34:00] | drindt: | driver from kernel? |
| [08:35:30] | Shadow__X: | drindt: your video card driver |
| [08:35:50] | drindt: | Shadow__X: i dont know that i have explicit installed one |
| [08:36:20] | Shadow__X: | thats something you should look into as vdpau is provided by the nvidia drivers |
| [08:36:27] | drindt: | Shadow__X: oh oops i am confused, the nvidia stuff is installed there |
| [08:36:44] | Shadow__X: | right of course its installed. you are already using vdpau |
| [08:37:03] | Shadow__X: | what i am saying is that some people have had issues while trying to use vdpau on older drivers |
| [08:37:10] | Shadow__X: | so make sure they are up to date |
| [08:37:51] | drindt: | afaik iam up to date with the driver, but let me repeat myself, it works and some day it stop working just a myhtfrontend restart helps then. |
| [08:38:15] | Shadow__X: | i am unsure then |
| [08:38:49] | drindt: | Shadow__X: no problem, thanks for helping me |
| [08:38:56] | Shadow__X: | yup |
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| [09:07:04] | dserban: | I can handle the 0 byte recordings... anyone know why, when I pause during livetv, the total time recorded doesn't increase? |
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| [12:43:39] | Blues-: | Hey all .. just bought HVR-1700 (CX23885 chip), which works great on my desktop machine (ubuntu 10.10 332bit) but when i moved the card to my server (ubuntu 9.10 64bit) the channel scan fails .. any one have a clue what might be the difference between the 2 systems ? |
| [12:43:48] | Blues-: | The error message from dvbscan is "WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!" ... uname -r => 2.6.31-22-server |
| [12:43:54] | Blues-: | any help is appreciated .. :) |
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| [12:47:18] | cromag: | does it show up in lspci to ? |
| [12:49:58] | cromag: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308180 this is a post regarding that chip |
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| [12:56:58] | Blues-: | 23.752015] cx23885 driver version 0.0.2 loaded |
| [12:56:58] | Blues-: | [ 23.752337] cx23885 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 |
| [12:56:58] | Blues-: | [ 23.752423] CORE cx23885[0]: subsystem: 0070:8101, board: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR1700 [card=8,autodetected] |
| [12:56:58] | Blues-: | [ 23.821171] EXT4-fs (dm-0): internal journal on dm-0:8 |
| [12:56:58] | Blues-: | [ 23.919931] tveeprom 0–0050: Hauppauge model 81519, rev B4F5, serial# 7285008 |
| [12:56:59] | Blues-: | [ 23.919934] tveeprom 0–0050: MAC address is 00–0D-FE-6F-29–10 |
| [12:57:01] | Blues-: | [ 23.919937] tveeprom 0–0050: tuner model is NXP 18271C2 (idx 155, type 54) |
| [12:57:03] | Blues-: | [ 23.919939] tveeprom 0–0050: TV standards PAL(B/G) PAL(I) SECAM(L/L') PAL(D/D1/K) ATSC/DVB Digital (eeprom 0xf4) |
| [12:57:06] | Blues-: | [ 23.919942] tveeprom 0–0050: audio processor is CX23885 (idx 39) |
| [12:57:08] | Blues-: | [ 23.919944] tveeprom 0–0050: decoder processor is CX23885 (idx 33) |
| [12:57:10] | Blues-: | [ 23.919946] tveeprom 0–0050: has no radio |
| [12:57:12] | Blues-: | [ 23.919947] cx23885[0]: hauppauge eeprom: model=81519 |
| [12:57:13] | skd5aner: | ok stop |
| [12:57:14] | Blues-: | [ 23.931481] cx25840 2–0044: cx25 0–21 found @ 0x88 (cx23885[0]) |
| [12:57:16] | Blues-: | [ 23.941509] cx25840 2–0044: firmware: requesting v4l-cx23885-avcore-01.fw |
| [12:57:20] | Blues-: | 63.300855] tda10048_firmware_upload: firmware read 24878 bytes. |
| [12:57:22] | Blues-: | [ 63.300858] tda10048_firmware_upload: firmware uploading |
| [12:57:24] | Blues-: | [ 65.924263] tda10048_firmware_upload: firmware uploaded |
| [12:57:26] | Blues-: | so yes .. the card i fully loaded .. |
| [12:57:34] | skd5aner: | Don't paste in here |
| [12:57:40] | Blues-: | ups sorry |
| [12:57:55] | skd5aner: | use http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/ |
| [12:58:30] | Blues-: | I have a /dev/dvb/adapter0/ entries .. with demux0 dvr0 frontend0 net0 .. |
| [12:58:51] | Blues-: | everything seems to work as i should .. except for the tuning .. |
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| [13:47:21] | merfy_: | hello.Can somebody suggest a good combatible with mythtv , tv tunner? thanks in advance. |
| [13:48:02] | skd5aner: | !url tuners |
| [13:48:02] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [13:49:26] | merfy_: | thanks skd5aner , i am totaly new to that.What are the diffs between analog and digital devices?which should i prefer? |
| [13:50:24] | skd5aner: | Where do you live? |
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| [13:51:37] | merfy_: | greece |
| [13:52:10] | skd5aner: | what's your source (cable, over the air, satelite)? |
| [13:52:38] | merfy_: | via antenna , probably over the air? |
| [13:53:03] | merfy_: | nor cable or satelite.Even if i might use sat in future. |
| [13:53:46] | skd5aner: | Do you know if Greece has gone completely digital broadcast (DVB) or do they still use analog (PAL)? |
| [13:53:53] | merfy_: | I think nowdays , the signal is changing from analog to digital. |
| [13:54:07] | skd5aner: | Yea, from wikipedia it looks like it started in 2008 and goes through 2015 |
| [13:54:31] | skd5aner: | For analog, you'd want a card capable of tuning PAL signals |
| [13:54:40] | skd5aner: | for digital, you'd want a card capable of tuning DVB-T signals |
| [13:55:07] | merfy_: | so i will go for the dvb-t |
| [13:55:38] | skd5aner: | So long as the stations in your area are broadcasting digital, that's what I'd recommend |
| [13:55:53] | merfy_: | in the list , there are dvb-s,dvb-c etc what the diff? |
| [13:56:08] | skd5aner: | S = Satellite, C=Cable |
| [13:56:18] | skd5aner: | T = Terrestrial (aka, over the air) |
| [13:57:08] | merfy_: | aha , is there any hybrid such as S+T ? |
| [13:57:54] | skd5aner: | likely not |
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| [13:58:40] | merfy_: | So , for future sat use , i must have a second device , right? |
| [13:58:47] | skd5aner: | There are hybrid analog and digtal ones thouh |
| [13:59:38] | skd5aner: | Well, truthfully, most providers in the world won't allow you to directly use an "S" card, unless they provide you with a CAM... I'm completely unfamiliar with satellite offerings in greece |
| [14:00:18] | Digdilem: | in the uk, there is freesat, which provides a large amount of un-encrypted channels over dvb-s so no cam is needed |
| [14:00:31] | skd5aner: | so, most people who have satellite will get a standard "box" from their sat. provider and have to record out of the analog outputs on that – either HD via component (with an HD-PVR) or SD via some other output |
| [14:00:40] | Digdilem: | i have 2xdvb-s pci tuners and 2xdvb-t usb tuners (because I ran out of pci slots) |
| [14:00:59] | skd5aner: | Digdilem: thanks, I'm completely in the dark about that kind of stuff – us folks in the US aren't quite a lucky to have that option |
| [14:01:08] | Digdilem: | :( |
| [14:01:37] | Digdilem: | i know germany and holland have similar setups which i can pickup from here, but not much use to me as I only speak english. |
| [14:01:37] | skd5aner: | Not saying wthere might not be a FTA channel here or there, but from the very limited info I've heard, it's basically not worth it to try |
| [14:04:47] | JEDIDIAH__: | freesat in the US is pretty much like the lamer broadcast channels, mostly spanish channels and religious channels. |
| [14:05:18] | JEDIDIAH__: | plus anyone you mention this stuff to is bound to just mistake you for a satellite cable pirate. |
| [14:06:09] | JEDIDIAH__: | awareness of (legal) free satellite TV is very low in the US. |
| [14:07:37] | Digdilem: | that's a shame. |
| [14:07:59] | merfy_: | as matter the dvb-t devices , what should i check? |
| [14:08:10] | Digdilem: | where I am, the dvb-t signal is incredibly weak due to lots of hills, and there's no cable out here, so freesat is the only option I have. I'm lucky. |
| [14:08:34] | Digdilem: | merfy_, that they work under linux. a lot of the cheap usb sticks from china are very hit and miss |
| [14:08:49] | merfy_: | i am planning for a pci |
| [14:08:59] | merfy_: | but as i see , there are too many |
| [14:09:17] | Digdilem: | hauppuage are generally well regarded, and ebay's a good source. again, check model for linux support before buying. |
| [14:09:40] | Digdilem: | that said, linux has pretty good support for most branded stuff now |
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| [14:12:56] | skd5aner: | Yea +1 on the hauppauge options, there are other decent options out there |
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| [14:13:36] | skd5aner: | find a unit on that website, see how much it costs, then google the unit name and mythtv or linux to see if there's any buzz about it |
| [14:19:07] | merfy_: | skd5aner: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-4000 this looks pretty good |
| [14:20:28] | merfy_: | pretty old too if that matters |
| [14:21:26] | drindt: | i have a sporadic problem with my mythfrontend, when i choose from the mediathek a record and want playback them it appears on the screen "please wait..." and nothing more happens, in the logs i found: http://fpaste.org/UB6e/ what can i do now? |
| [14:23:45] | ** JEDIDIAH__ has been using hauppauge capture devices for over 10 years. ** | |
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| [14:35:18] | skd5aner: | merfy_: old doesn't matter, but that card looks like it's got everything – but I'm betting it's a bit overkill and expensive |
| [14:35:24] | skd5aner: | but it would probably work for you |
| [14:35:39] | merfy_: | i found it for 92 euros |
| [14:35:57] | merfy_: | about 120$ |
| [14:36:21] | skd5aner: | merfy_: well, it's your money :) |
| [14:36:39] | merfy_: | :) |
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| [16:12:14] | nidhoegger: | hi |
| [16:12:56] | nidhoegger: | ive got a little question: we get DVB-S in our home with a unicable solution. ive read its possible with the SkyStar S2 from technisat. But the hotline told me its only supported by software for windows. is there a known way to get it working with linux and mythtv? |
| [16:13:05] | nidhoegger: | or can you tell me somewhere i could ask that kind of questions? |
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| [16:15:08] | skd5aner: | !url tuners |
| [16:15:08] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [16:15:14] | skd5aner: | nidhoegger: ^^^ |
| [16:16:01] | skd5aner: | nidhoegger: and, from there – http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Azurewa . . . CI_(VP-1041) |
| [16:16:30] | nidhoegger: | i think the S2 isnt a Azurewave card |
| [16:16:38] | nidhoegger: | the SkyStar 2 has an azurwave chip |
| [16:16:41] | skd5aner: | Click the link... read the first line |
| [16:17:02] | skd5aner: | "The Technisat SkyStar HD2 and TerraTec Cinergy S2 PCI HD CI are rebadges of this product, with different PCI subsystem IDs." |
| [16:17:36] | skd5aner: | I wouldn't have known that at all, I just followed the first link I provided you, which led me to that... |
| [16:17:42] | skd5aner: | go through that site and it should help you out |
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| [16:19:14] | nidhoegger: | hmm okay, then the informations i got were wrong |
| [16:19:20] | skd5aner: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S2_PCI_Cards |
| [16:19:22] | nidhoegger: | but the question still is if it has unicable support |
| [16:19:57] | skd5aner: | nidhoegger: mythtv only supports whatever linuxtv provides, I think they ahve a channel at #linuxtv – you could try there |
| [16:20:02] | nidhoegger: | wow...mine is completely unsupported |
| [16:20:19] | skd5aner: | good luck |
| [16:20:56] | nidhoegger: | thank you! |
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| [16:41:20] | ** iamlindoro likes the new, ruthless ticket triage kenni ** | |
| [16:41:25] | iamlindoro: | man ater my own heart |
| [16:41:27] | iamlindoro: | er after |
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| [16:41:57] | stuarta: | triage via shotgun |
| [16:42:20] | stuarta: | in 2683 messages i might get to see his handywork :( |
| [16:42:27] | iamlindoro: | Exactly. As sphery says, prove it's a bug. |
| [16:42:27] | iamlindoro: | ha |
| [16:42:55] | stuarta: | that is heading towards the djb school of dealing with users |
| [16:43:06] | Beirdo: | gah! |
| [16:43:25] | Beirdo: | djb is not ever to be a goal in my mind. |
| [16:43:52] | iamlindoro: | Heh |
| [16:43:55] | stuarta: | he set the benchmark on how not to deal with users |
| [16:43:56] | Beirdo: | I have nothing good to say about that guy |
| [16:44:04] | Beirdo: | heh, didn't he though :) |
| [16:44:07] | iamlindoro: | we *can* insist that people file worthwhile tickets, however-- we've had a lot of chaff this week |
| [16:44:17] | Beirdo: | yah, well put :) |
| [16:44:24] | Beirdo: | I just invalided one myself |
| [16:44:32] | stuarta: | ah, that'll be in 2000 or so emails |
| [16:44:33] | iamlindoro: | And that's all kenni has insisted on this morning. Maybe it's just that I like not having to be the only bad guy sometimes ;) |
| [16:44:36] | Beirdo: | "the wiki needs updating" |
| [16:44:41] | Beirdo: | so do it, tard |
| [16:45:12] | Beirdo: | you don't need a ticket to update the wiki :) |
| [16:48:41] | iamlindoro: | It seems like every time we tell someone that they should update the wiki (likely taking less time than the ticket/thread they start to tell us the wiki is out of date) they don't do so |
| [16:49:02] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [16:49:19] | kenni: | heh, iamlindoro, as you pointed out yesterday, some cleanup was needed :) I'm unsure about what to do with the rest, though |
| [16:49:21] | Beirdo: | I'll likely go and update the mythweather stuff at some point anyways |
| [16:49:58] | iamlindoro: | kenni: It's a good start. Thank you for doing that. Even the few you closed make me feel better since it's not fun/easy to be the target of user irritation when making tough ticket decisions |
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| [16:50:30] | kenni: | iamlindoro: np, I don't mind taking some hits |
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| [16:57:51] | ** JEDIDIAH__ always thought ial liked the "limelight" ** | |
| [16:57:55] | ** JEDIDIAH__ ducks ** | |
| [16:58:02] | JEDIDIAH__: | '-) |
| [16:59:18] | JEDIDIAH__: | there is a sith on my freezer |
| [17:00:35] | stuarta: | and there's beer in my fridge. |
| [17:02:50] | JEDIDIAH__: | gave the kid some stickers... I guess I should have known better. |
| [17:03:19] | stuarta: | fridge magnets |
| [17:03:49] | JEDIDIAH__: | these things are all over the house |
| [17:03:58] | JEDIDIAH__: | his mother is an accomplice (encourager) |
| [17:04:06] | JEDIDIAH__: | one of the risks of marrying another geek I suppose... |
| [17:07:19] | jarle: | I'm having problems with 7-day EIT data not filling completely up for some of my channels, leaving me with only data for some hours each day. Anybody seen similar behaviour? (DVB-S) |
| [17:07:45] | drindt: | i have a sporadic problem with my mythfrontend, when i choose from the mediathek a record and want playback them it appears on the screen "please wait..." and nothing more happens, in the logs i found: http://fpaste.org/UB6e/ what can i do now? |
| [17:08:44] | JEDIDIAH__: | any thoughts on drobo for backend storage? |
| [17:08:44] | jarle: | or actually leaving gaps without any EIT data for some of the days.. |
| [17:10:27] | stuarta: | jarle: where are you? |
| [17:10:59] | stuarta: | i've seen some oddness if the eitscanner doesn't stay on channel for long enough |
| [17:11:10] | stuarta: | the default is 5m iirc, i personally use 10m |
| [17:11:11] | jarle: | stuarta: Norway |
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| [17:11:28] | jarle: | stuarta: I'll try increasing it... |
| [17:11:36] | stuarta: | it's an easy thing to do |
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| [17:19:05] | jarle: | stuarta: however I would imagine that the 7-day data would come sieving in for a specific channel if I left it on live tv on the specific channel (which doesn't seem to happen), maybe 7-day EIT data is sent on a different channel? |
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| [17:22:52] | Chiwauwa: | I've pasted a snippet of my mythfrontend.log here: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/Qc8FXqm7 covering the frontend freeze issue on 0.24. I is just a test system, so I haven't bother with getting the audio up and running. Do you see any hints to why the playback stops. It is the same situation on two frontends – one is a remote one and the other one on the same computer as the backend. |
| [17:23:17] | Chiwauwa: | the issue that I talked about yesterday ... |
| [17:24:06] | Chiwauwa: | I complains about deinterlacing not being loaded. Could that be the reason. |
| [17:24:29] | iamlindoro: | No |
| [17:24:57] | iamlindoro: | But you aren't getting any data whatsoever from the backend |
| [17:25:04] | iamlindoro: | so you should look at your backend logs |
| [17:25:20] | iamlindoro: | postinit failure means "there is no data to play back" |
| [17:25:42] | iamlindoro: | So obviously it can't deinterlace nothing |
| [17:25:46] | iamlindoro: | nor can it play nothing |
| [17:27:28] | Chiwauwa: | I plays ~20 sec every time ... and then it dies. The backend log seems normal (i think) ... two sec and I'll post it as well |
| [17:27:44] | iamlindoro: | Could be a driver issue, then |
| [17:27:53] | iamlindoro: | because That log is definitely consistent with getting no data |
| [17:28:03] | iamlindoro: | Could also be a hard drive issue |
| [17:28:07] | Chiwauwa: | Doubt it as I can replicate it on two different machines |
| [17:28:20] | iamlindoro: | All I'm telling you is what your logs say |
| [17:28:34] | iamlindoro: | good luck, hope you get it sorted out |
| [17:29:03] | Chiwauwa: | I know ... I've tried mounting manually, copied it manually, played it via vlc from local storage and via NFS ... all works perfectly ... but not in MythTV |
| [17:29:11] | iamlindoro: | sorry, good luck |
| [17:29:51] | Chiwauwa: | ok |
| [17:32:34] | Chiwauwa: | Backend log: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/64wn6P34 |
| [17:33:23] | iamlindoro: | That is 2/10ths of a second of backend log |
| [17:33:34] | iamlindoro: | I'm smart, but I'm not psychic |
| [17:33:52] | Chiwauwa: | :-) But it covers the playback ... let me add something more |
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| [17:35:58] | iamlindoro: | Also, that's consistent with the driver saying it's providing data, but not |
| [17:36:01] | iamlindoro: | ie, driver issue |
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| [17:37:30] | Chiwauwa: | Updated log ... http://mythtv.pastebin.com/WKv0BhDf |
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| [17:38:18] | Chiwauwa: | I can see that it tries to connect to my 'production' db at 192.168.0.7. This is a test system. The db in the test system is located at the same machine as the backend. |
| [17:38:32] | Chiwauwa: | But it is also connected to the local db. |
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| [17:40:28] | Chiwauwa: | The 'production' system is running on 0.23. |
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| [17:52:26] | Chiwauwa: | iamlindoro, do you see something that could hint what is wrong in the backend log at http://mythtv.pastebin.com/WKv0BhDf ? Or did you conclude that this is a driver issue? |
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| [18:17:18] | Nede: | hi!!! |
| [18:17:27] | Nede: | one question! |
| [18:17:47] | Nede: | will be replaced mtd in the next mythtv 0.24.1? |
| [18:17:53] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [18:18:06] | iamlindoro: | There are no current plans to replace mtd/DVD ripping |
| [18:18:06] | Nede: | noooo???? |
| [18:18:09] | iamlindoro: | noooo |
| [18:18:18] | Nede: | AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! |
| [18:18:22] | Nede: | :-( |
| [18:18:36] | iamlindoro: | Just rip your DVDs using handbrake/any other dedicated program for doing so |
| [18:18:43] | iamlindoro: | which do a much better job anyway |
| [18:19:04] | russell5: | i use h264enc |
| [18:19:13] | russell5: | works well for me and pretty straight forward |
| [18:19:47] | Nede: | russell5 h264enc is a line terminal? |
| [18:20:04] | dserban: | hmm something's not right with my system. First off, any reason why when recording livetv (to test), when paused, the time recorded doesn't advance? or my position in the stream for that matter? |
| [18:20:05] | russell5: | yup no gui |
| [18:20:16] | dserban: | it stays at 1 sec position of 1 sec |
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| [18:20:59] | Nede: | russell5 sob! Alternatively try something from the command line |
| [18:21:38] | iamlindoro: | dserban: broken seektables/db issues or http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9023 |
| [18:21:40] | Nede: | dvd::rip? |
| [18:21:55] | dserban: | iamlindoro, danke vm |
| [18:21:58] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [18:23:10] | elkin: | hi ! I am having trouble with the cutlist editor. The frontend gets stuck when I forward and the DVB-S recording changes aspect ratio. Only way to get out of the frontend it to kill it. I am running 27220. Anyone with similar problems? |
| [18:23:14] | dserban: | hrrm, wonder if I can add further debug. |
| [18:23:34] | iamlindoro: | elkin: It's a known issue |
| [18:23:45] | iamlindoro: | elkin: Once there is a fix it will be committed |
| [18:23:54] | elkin: | ok, thanks! |
| [18:23:55] | iamlindoro: | dserban: Not unless solicited on the bug, if you please |
| [18:24:28] | iamlindoro: | dserban: The current limiting factor isn't the amount of information we have, but rather the time |
| [18:24:56] | Nede: | thank iamlindoro and russell5! I go! |
| [18:24:56] | dserban: | iamlindoro, aye, ok. Ahh, well scanning through it, I didn't see any note on what's actually wrong. |
| [18:25:01] | ** dserban goes to re-read the bug ** | |
| [18:25:18] | iamlindoro: | dserban: We don't tend to waste time explaining bugs to their reporters until we have a fix ;) |
| [18:25:40] | dserban: | iamlindoro, understood. |
| [18:25:49] | iamlindoro: | Since it's easily reproduceable, getting more debug isn't an issue, but if you could pay someone's mortgage for a month, that might help ;) |
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| [18:26:20] | dserban: | hah! Nah, I'm currently paying 6 mortgages, with no tenants. Maybe I can offer it next month :P |
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| [18:29:19] | iamlindoro: | Oh well, was worth a try ;) |
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| [18:30:50] | dserban: | k, one more, I have a feeling it's got something to do with the package, but are there known issues with mythweb in .24? like headers erroring out because an empty parameter was passed to a foreach? |
| [18:30:59] | KaZeR: | hi there. is anyone using mythtv with multiple audio streams for dvb-s ? |
| [18:31:26] | iamlindoro: | dserban: No known issues of that type, what you describe tends to be an issue with mythweb setup/the .conf file |
| [18:32:12] | dserban: | iamlindoro, ok I'll go confirm and beat marillat over the head with it |
| [18:32:24] | iamlindoro: | Oh that should be fun |
| [18:32:32] | iamlindoro: | Debian packages have a history of violence, usually mine |
| [18:32:40] | dserban: | he's pretty quick with the fixes though |
| [18:33:25] | dserban: | hah, yeah well I wish myth was in deb proper, I know it'll never be etc etc. |
| [18:35:26] | dserban: | oh! another thing, my channel icons are missing after say channel 9. I run mythtv-setup, they're all there, in the log for the frontend, it complains that it can't stat /root/.mythtv/channels/whatever.jpg... it's not running as root, then the next line states that it can't find /var/lib/mythtv/.mythtv/channels/whatever.jpg which is fine, but the icon's not there. Can i force it somehow? or do I need to manually copy them over |
| [18:35:26] | dserban: | again? |
| [18:36:32] | iamlindoro: | I'm not sure what the issue is exactly there, but it does sound like maybe you have some channels that are the same across two sources? |
| [18:36:42] | iamlindoro: | There is an open channel icon bug that is probably this |
| [18:36:49] | iamlindoro: | 91somethingsomething |
| [18:37:04] | iamlindoro: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9136 |
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| [18:42:05] | tyce: | anyone know if there's a way to change the "default" recording group to one you've created? |
| [18:42:12] | dserban: | ahh yes, that's probably it, then I need to add the same source for each tuner, even if SD provides the exact same lineup aye? I don't know why I did that on this install... I added the same source to all the other tuners on the old backend. |
| [18:42:22] | dserban: | Ok, I'll go try that to see if it fixes it |
| [18:42:40] | dserban: | tyce, when creating a recording rule, ... that's where |
| [18:42:52] | iamlindoro: | It's okay to have some identical channels across sources |
| [18:43:17] | iamlindoro: | And if all your tuners are connected to the same source (ie, 3x QAM tuners all plugged into a splitter) then using a single source on each card is okay |
| [18:43:48] | tyce: | dserban: That's what I referring to... I want that drop down to "default" to one I've created (ie: PrimeTime) instead of it starting at "default" |
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| [18:49:12] | dserban: | iamlindoro, I assumed so, though I'm trying to find what's screwing with the channel icons. |
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| [19:12:30] | Gibby: | Anyway to automate or schedule the video scan for MythVideo? |
| [19:13:52] | wagnerrp: | JAMU can do it, as can the myth_video_scan.py script on the wiki |
| [19:13:58] | wagnerrp: | but theres not really any purpose to it |
| [19:14:15] | wagnerrp: | the upnp scanner does not use that database |
| [19:14:16] | Gibby: | I am not talking about the meta data update |
| [19:14:26] | wagnerrp: | so the only way to access that content is through the frontend |
| [19:14:37] | wagnerrp: | and it takes all of 10 seconds to run a scan when you add/remove content |
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| [19:14:46] | Gibby: | yes i know |
| [19:15:39] | Gibby: | The wiki only talks about doing..... MENU->Scan For Changes. |
| [19:16:00] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [19:16:39] | npm_ is now known as npm | |
| [19:16:52] | Gibby: | so no way to automate then |
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| [19:17:08] | wagnerrp: | JAMU can do it, as can the myth_video_scan.py script on the wiki |
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| [19:17:10] | wagnerrp: | but theres not really any purpose to it |
| [19:17:33] | dustybin: | If i use good quality Seagate 5900.12 drives, i wonder if i could get away with: 1.5TB x6 – RAID-5 – EXT4 – LVM – 7.3TB FREE SPACE, that is about £150 cheaper than using 2TB drives configured in RAID-6 what would give nearly the same amount of space! |
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| [19:18:36] | Gibby: | i will check jamu, but i just disabled it when i upgraded to 0.24... shouldn't myth_video_scan.py be referenced at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo |
| [19:19:23] | skd5aner: | is JAMU still the only way to automate fanart for recordings or does the built in one handle that now too? |
| [19:19:44] | wagnerrp: | Gibby: no, it should not, as the only officially supported scanner is that in the mythvideo plugin |
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| [19:19:59] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Jamu is still the only option for recordings |
| [19:20:01] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: 0.24 will now do batch downloading of content for newly scanned videos |
| [19:20:07] | wagnerrp: | oh, recordings |
| [19:20:13] | skd5aner: | yea, recordings :) |
| [19:20:29] | skd5aner: | thanks RDV |
| [19:20:36] | RDV_Linux: | np |
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| [19:20:59] | skd5aner: | I am experiencing some isssues with the artwork selector for videos, but it's very possible it's a configuration issue on my side |
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| [19:21:33] | skd5aner: | When I go into the artwork selector, it does a wonderful job of going out, seeing what's available, and grabbing it – but it never updates th image |
| [19:21:44] | skd5aner: | the old artwork still shows |
| [19:22:05] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: The area where that seems to be an issue is when people mix storage groups and duplicate local paths fopr images. |
| [19:22:21] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: that was my theory... |
| [19:22:42] | skd5aner: | was just typing up that I have just started using SGs for videos, but continue to use he default local paths for artwork |
| [19:22:58] | skd5aner: | but I have not tried to setup storage groups for the artwork at all yet |
| [19:23:12] | skd5aner: | Not sure if they are set to a default path or something |
| [19:23:43] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: On an offending video use Mythvideo to reset the metadata then press "w" to refresh it. If it works then the path in the Mythvideo record for the non-working image was not set correctly for some reason. |
| [19:23:58] | skd5aner: | I assumed, that if I do setup some SGs for artwork, that it might resolve the issue, just haven't considered doing it yet |
| [19:24:35] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: thanks, I'll give that a test a little later today |
| [19:25:07] | skd5aner: | I was just fiddling right after the upgrade because I was excited for the feature, but after trying on 3 vidoes, I realized it was't working "as-is" |
| [19:25:08] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: You would still need to refresh the video's metadata as MythVideo would still have records with incorrect (non-storage) group paths. |
| [19:25:27] | wagnerrp: | christ... someone wants to run a backend on their new Apple TV |
| [19:25:46] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: ahhh... so, perhaps all I need to do is press W and it should update it? |
| [19:26:06] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: The issue I am referring to is not a functional issue with Mythvideo it is that the records have some bad image paths. |
| [19:26:27] | skd5aner: | How would they have gotten "bad"? |
| [19:27:04] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Try the metadata reset first to make sure you have at least one way to fixc the issue. Then try just a "w" to see if that is even faster. |
| [19:27:21] | skd5aner: | will do, can't test quite yet but I'll give both a shot |
| [19:27:46] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: May have gone bad when you had a mix of storage groups and local settings perhaps. |
| [19:28:19] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: perhaps, but I've never even attempted to setup storage groups for artwork, so I'm not sure why it just doesn't try the local setting |
| [19:28:23] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: My comments are more focused on correctly the issue then figuring out how it got there in the first place. |
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| [19:29:06] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: if I recall correctly, when I try and select the image path, it tries to access the backend (I hope I'm explaining that properly) |
| [19:30:01] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: BE and storage groups. FE and local paths. |
| [19:30:08] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: yea, gotcha... I'm wondering if it's a bug or not, I may have to ping iamlindoro later (unless he's around now) |
| [19:30:23] | skd5aner: | Yea, but it doesn't show the local paths... |
| [19:30:59] | skd5aner: | the local paths are entered, but when I go to edit the field, it's like it defaults to trying to look at storage group locations |
| [19:30:59] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: No bugs that I am aware in Mythvideo. It may be faster to just try the tests described ^^^ |
| [19:31:12] | skd5aner: | NP... I will test, thanks |
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| [19:31:22] | jkp: | question: if i add a capture card in a "slave" backend, should it show up in the capture cards list on the master? |
| [19:31:26] | jkp: | im tryin to configure my system to all clients to stream TV from a capture card in a slave system |
| [19:31:32] | skd5aner: | actually – curiousity is bugging me, I'm going to try and test now :) |
| [19:31:43] | jkp: | i can see the card from the slave system, and its in the database, but its not showing up in the list on the master system (not sure if this is scoped to that box or not) and its not usage from the client |
| [19:31:46] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Did you check the BE storage group settings just to make sure nothing is entered for the images? |
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| [19:36:16] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: Hey, just tested... so, here's why I found... |
| [19:37:06] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: If I go into the edit details page for a video, I can see the local path /home/mythtv/.mythtv/Videos/.../.jgg, etc for coverart and fan art |
| [19:37:53] | skd5aner: | if scroll to the field where it has the path and hit enter, it takes me to the Video storage groups, which ONLY contain the movies mythtv://192.168.1.200/Videos |
| [19:37:58] | skd5aner: | it does not show the local storage |
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| [19:38:18] | skd5aner: | I cleared all data... and hit W, and it reloaded the images |
| [19:38:35] | wagnerrp: | jkp: have you restarted the master backend since adding the card? |
| [19:38:44] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: I tried to select new images, and it grabbed them, but never updated |
| [19:39:17] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: let me check mythtv-setup now and verify nothing is set for the artwork storage groups |
| [19:39:24] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Please double check thr BE settings for storage groups. |
| [19:39:36] | skd5aner: | I should only have 2 storage groups defined: Default and Videos, double checking now |
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| [19:41:05] | CyberKnet: | I had been using the DVR menu layout... and noticed I couldn't find MythNetVision. Switched over to Default and Media Center layouts and it's there. Is that an indication of: a) DVR layout shouldn't have everything, b) DVR layout wasn't as well maintained in the last release, or c) There are no consipracy theories... submit a patch fool! |
| [19:41:16] | jkp: | wagnerrp: y, several times |
| [19:41:25] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: Looking at Storage Groups in mythtv-setup now, I have Default and Videos... all the other ones still say "Create _______ group" |
| [19:41:28] | jkp: | it doesnt seem to pick up the information that the slave added |
| [19:42:01] | jkp: | i take it my understanding of things was correct then: the slave would add information to the database and the master would pick that up and use it during operation? |
| [19:43:07] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: The two absolute paths for images seem correct for local paths. Are those images not showing up in Mythvideo? |
| [19:43:32] | skd5aner: | The original images that I downloaded prior to upgrading to 0.24, all show... |
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| [19:44:21] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: I just can't update any existing video's images using the image selector |
| [19:44:23] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Theme cache! |
| [19:44:38] | skd5aner: | K, I can try deleting that... |
| [19:45:28] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: before doing that add a completely new video even if it is a fake empty file to see of those images are ok. |
| [19:45:29] | jkp: | so i guess im trying a fairly complex setup...i really want everthing running in a VM on my server but the problem is tyat the VM software (KVM) doesnt support USB 2 |
| [19:45:39] | jkp: | so im having to run the capture card in the host |
| [19:45:39] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: ok |
| [19:46:04] | jkp: | id rather keep the host as clean as possible so i thought if i ran a slave backend i could run the master inside my main VM |
| [19:46:30] | jkp: | im unsure why nothing added on the slave machine is showing up on the master though |
| [19:46:49] | wagnerrp: | jkp: you want to run a tunerless master in a VM on the same machine you are running a slave on? |
| [19:46:52] | wagnerrp: | .... why??? |
| [19:47:00] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: If a new video has the correct images then it is likely a theme cache issue assuming the new images are exactly the same names as the old images. |
| [19:47:12] | jkp: | ....becase I *really* dont want the host full of sw |
| [19:47:23] | jkp: | its only because im backed into a corner im putting anything on it |
| [19:47:33] | jkp: | its basically just a hypervisor as it stands |
| [19:47:39] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: brb, I actually tried both |
| [19:47:57] | jkp: | if i start insalling stuff on it everything is going to get mixed up and i loose the seperation i have now between domains |
| [19:48:07] | jkp: | wagnerrp: anyway, what i want should be possible shouldnt it? |
| [19:48:15] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: I suspect that the field isn't being updated at all, but the fake video should be able to help test that theory |
| [19:48:24] | skd5aner: | brb |
| [19:48:41] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: That is what I was think also. |
| [19:50:37] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: You could always check the "videometadata" recortd directly if you have some MySql foo or use software like phpMyAdmin. |
| [19:50:59] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: yup, that was it... entered a fake video, was able to download all the metadata except any artwork... |
| [19:51:29] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: Also tried the artwork selector, which displayed the choices, selected one, and it still didn't populate the artwork path field |
| [19:52:08] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: That seems odd and something other would have reported. |
| [19:52:46] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: I have run out of things to try. Sorry |
| [19:53:04] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: no worries, appreciate the help troubleshooting – I'll file a bug |
| [19:53:25] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Tap into iamlindoro first please |
| [19:53:52] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: ^^^ whenever you return, ping me – thanks |
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| [20:08:36] | Twiggy2cents: | how has the 0.23.1 to 0.24 been going? I will backup my database, but I just wanna make sure there wasnt a common issue. My fedora has them automatically marked for update, but my backend mythbuntu will be updated with the autobuilds stuff |
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| [20:15:45] | Twiggy2cents: | so I take it that there havent been many issues upgrading then? |
| [20:18:40] | Twiggy2cents: | does the script for the database backup back up the whole thing? Like if I had an issue with the db after update would I have to downgrade back to use my backed up db? |
| [20:21:20] | Twiggy2cents: | ohh I am guessing you can use a full backup then use mythtv-setup to update the schema? |
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| [20:22:39] | k_ross: | jkp: i think that's really the wrong way to go about it. either run the mythbackend in the master host, or switch to something that will pass through USB 2.0 (xen, vmware, virtualbox, etc) |
| [20:23:04] | jkp: | k_ross: y – i looked at VMWare |
| [20:23:15] | jkp: | it cant use block devices for its disks though : |
| [20:23:22] | jkp: | i might look at xen |
| [20:23:34] | jkp: | or buy a PCI capture card |
| [20:23:45] | wagnerrp: | the former is MUCH preferred |
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| [20:23:54] | wagnerrp: | (running mythbackend directly) |
| [20:28:09] | k_ross: | does PCI passthrough work with KVM? does it need special CPU or other support for that? |
| [20:28:36] | k_ross: | i don't know much about kvm |
| [20:28:56] | jkp: | k_ross: no, it should work |
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| [20:29:15] | jkp: | it has USB passthrough, just not USB 2.0 |
| [20:35:33] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: Am I reading correctly that you have a video SG set up, but are trying to use local paths for images? |
| [20:35:43] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: that's correct |
| [20:35:52] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: That is not a supported configuration |
| [20:36:02] | iamlindoro: | You need to be using storage groups, or local paths, not a mishmash |
| [20:36:22] | skd5aner: | ah... I wasn't aware that video SGs depended on image SGs... |
| [20:36:38] | wagnerrp: | yes, like storage for each |
| [20:37:10] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: It works like this-- is there is a host defined for a video item, then it expects to find images on that host as well-- Trying to use both will definitely cause $SomethingCrazy |
| [20:37:11] | skd5aner: | in 0.23, I was using local for both, so I just migrated to video storage groups not knowing that images couldn't be local if that's the case |
| [20:37:57] | iamlindoro: | You technically *can* probably force it to work with some DB poking, but obviously that's not something I condone |
| [20:38:04] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: gotcha, well – I can create image storage groups, it's not a problem really, just will have to migrate everything over (fairly easy)... just didn't see in the wiki that was required, either I could have missed it (probably) or it wasn't there |
| [20:38:21] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: It's possible that it's not explicitly spelled out-- though I had on the mythvideo page, though |
| [20:38:45] | iamlindoro: | It's definitely in the step-by-step for setting up Video SGs |
| [20:38:46] | skd5aner: | I figured if I moved to image storage groups, it'd probably resolve the "problem" – but i didn't know if it was a bug or not, so wanted to troubleshoot first – thank you |
| [20:39:06] | iamlindoro: | np, thank you for taking the time to investigate before filing a bug |
| [20:39:29] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [20:39:34] | iamlindoro: | AFAICT what you're seeing is more or less what I'd expect when you have both local and SG half-configured |
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| [20:40:32] | skd5aner: | It's interesting, because it still has all the previous (non-new) videos metadata as the local path, so it works – but everything new is obviously not working in this configuration, so I didn't realize any issues until I wanted to go play with the nifty new artwork selector |
| [20:40:49] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, that's what I'd expect |
| [20:41:23] | skd5aner: | One last quick question... should I go into the media settings – video settings and delete all the paths for artwork AND video directories since SGs will be used for both? |
| [20:41:26] | iamlindoro: | Just set up image SGs, move your images over, and do a DB replace to remove the path in the image fields |
| [20:41:46] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: Personally I prefer to have a local path that is empty set up there, but either should work |
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| [20:41:51] | iamlindoro: | (sometimes I like to drop in a quick sample) |
| [20:43:01] | skd5aner: | k, right now I tjhink it leverages the default(?) of ~/.mythtv/MythVideo/{banners/fanart/etc} |
| [20:43:48] | skd5aner: | I've very greatful for the artwork selector... sometimes the default art that gets selected is... not good :) |
| [20:43:58] | skd5aner: | I've? er, I'm |
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| [20:44:37] | iamlindoro: | The default was to take the first, then we reworked it to take the highest rated, now it takes the highest rated and you can swap if you like |
| [20:44:51] | iamlindoro: | it's something I had been intended to get around to forever, but I needed to write the generic metadata stuff before I could complete it |
| [20:44:57] | skd5aner: | both are much better – thanks |
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| [20:46:04] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [20:46:07] | iamlindoro: | I like it, anyway :) |
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| [20:55:01] | drindt: | i have a sporadic problem with my mythfrontend, when i choose from the mediathek a record and want playback them it appears on the screen "please wait..." and nothing more happens, in the logs i found: http://fpaste.org/UB6e/ what can i do now? |
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| [21:06:06] | stevieman: | Does anyone know if I need xmacro-wrap for SDLmame to accept commands from my remote? |
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| [21:08:18] | Twiggy2cents: | is the packages 0.24–0.2.rc2.fc14.i686. The same as the latest? The fedora repo with the mythtv updates is down. That is in a testing repo on a different one |
| [21:09:41] | iamlindoro: | Twiggy2cents: Since there is no Myth revision number in there, it's impossible to know what that package contains-- you should ask the packager |
| [21:10:01] | Twiggy2cents: | okay |
| [21:10:41] | iamlindoro: | drindt: It means you are trying to use VDPAU video output with hardware which does not support it, or for which there is a driver issue |
| [21:10:43] | stuartm: | iamlindoro, Twiggy2cents: it says RC2, so that's a pre-release |
| [21:10:52] | stuartm: | i.e. it's not 0.24 |
| [21:10:52] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: Ah, good point, I didn't catch that |
| [21:11:07] | iamlindoro: | Twiggy2cents: As stuartm Says, that predates teh release by a week, and predates today by several weeks |
| [21:11:16] | drindt: | iamlindoro: but let me explain its sporadic nature, when i kill the mythfrontend and rerun it it works for a while... |
| [21:11:31] | Twiggy2cents: | okay, I guess I will look for another repo or wait till the down one comes back up |
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| [21:11:39] | iamlindoro: | drindt: Then the best assumption I can make is a driver issue wherein it is running out of resources |
| [21:12:12] | iamlindoro: | To eliminate more possibilities, you should be running the newest nVidia driver and MythTV .24-fixes |
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| [21:12:51] | drindt: | iamlindoro: maybe the dynamic memory allocation for the video memory is not working properly? |
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| [21:13:24] | iamlindoro: | drindt: Anything would be a guess-- are you running nVidia driver 260.19.21 and MythTV .24-fixes? |
| [21:13:47] | drindt: | iamlindoro: the nividia has the version you mentioned, but running still 23 here |
| [21:14:17] | iamlindoro: | drindt: Current release in .24-fixes, which handles resource allocation, specifically related to VDPAU, more efficiently... please upgrade and see where you are at |
| [21:15:23] | drindt: | iamlindoro: ok its a bigger task than a fingersnip for me right now. but thanks for your suggestions i will keep that in mind. |
| [21:15:59] | iamlindoro: | drindt: OK. I understand it may not seem trivial, but unfortunately the first step any of us is likely to ask you to make is to upgrade to our current release |
| [21:16:09] | iamlindoro: | Keep it in mind all you wish, you'll need to do it for us to help you :) |
| [21:16:49] | drindt: | iamlindoro: i develop software myself so i know about your meanings ;) |
| [21:17:16] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: what kind of storage / RAID setup do you use? |
| [21:17:17] | drindt: | but its a bad time for me to rebuild the rpms now between after work and go to bed phase :D |
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| [21:39:36] | justinh: | heh the odd time I look back in here & there he is. still breathing our air |
| [21:43:39] | iamlindoro: | alas |
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| [21:45:50] | skd5aner: | When you setup storage groups, do you have to reset the mbe or do they take effect immediately? |
| [21:46:20] | iamlindoro: | theoretically they would take effect immediately, but for my money you should restart all processes |
| [21:46:24] | iamlindoro: | front and back |
| [21:46:28] | justinh: | I generally consider it good practise to stop mythbackend first |
| [21:46:35] | justinh: | old habit :) |
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| [21:46:53] | skd5aner: | I USUALLY do, but the wife is home sick and is watching recordings... kind of didn't want to interupt |
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| [21:47:31] | justinh: | so just wait then :) |
| [21:47:34] | skd5aner: | no big deal, I'll wait :) |
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| [21:49:19] | justinh: | still haven't had time to upgrade yet.. wayyyyy too busy busy |
| [21:50:28] | skd5aner: | was a fairy painless and non-invasive upgrade for me |
| [21:50:45] | skd5aner: | including downloading/compiling/installing, it took less than 30 mins |
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| [21:54:11] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: I want to make sure I actually read you right... you want me to go and do a replace on the metadata table and take out the full path and just leave the file name (directly in the DB)? |
| [21:54:36] | iamlindoro: | Presuming the images are all in the root of their respect storage group paths, yes |
| [21:54:56] | skd5aner: | they are – just I know that direct DB manip isn't usually the advice given ;) |
| [21:55:04] | iamlindoro: | ie if your storage group path is /path/to/my/fanart, and you move the image there, then it's just "bah_fanart.png" |
| [21:55:28] | skd5aner: | Yup – I'm comfortable doing it, just a little surprised, heh ;) |
| [21:55:28] | iamlindoro: | Well yeah. there are still destructive ways to fix it without doing so, but I figured you'd prefer this one |
| [21:56:22] | Twiggy2cents: | man... I decide to update mythtv. I started with the backend first. It is now updated, but my frontend repo is down. Lovely luck |
| [21:57:03] | kormoc: | frontend repo? it's the same package that provides both |
| [21:57:10] | Twiggy2cents: | different distros |
| [21:57:22] | kormoc: | ahh |
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| [22:00:44] | Ryushin: | I currently have the PVR-350 and I only use it now for my IR interface to the hauppage remote. What USB IR receiver is the best one to use now? |
| [22:01:12] | justinh: | same as ever. whatever works in linux |
| [22:01:26] | justinh: | or whatever doesn't suck the beauty out of your livingroom :D |
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| [22:02:00] | iamlindoro: | C'mon, this is linux, nobody here cares about beauty |
| [22:02:20] | iamlindoro: | Just solder some IR LEDs into a glue ball and tack it on your wall above the picture of the dogs playing cards |
| [22:02:31] | Ryushin: | Problem is always finding what usb ir receivers work under linux. There are a couple small time version like iguana and such. |
| [22:02:47] | kormoc: | mceusb receivers work fine |
| [22:02:56] | Twiggy2cents: | I am having an issue with mythweb. I updated the backend to 0.24 and then dropped the mythweb files into the var/www/mythweb folder. I can see the recorded programs but I have two errors when trying to view recording schedules |
| [22:03:01] | kormoc: | have for years, very common to find, and painless to use |
| [22:03:16] | Ryushin: | kormac: Peftect. I'll use one of those. |
| [22:03:37] | Twiggy2cents: | in the upcoming.php it errors this !NoTrans: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()!! |
| [22:04:03] | Twiggy2cents: | I didnt restart the computer, is that necessary? |
| [22:04:23] | kormoc: | you likely don't have any upcoming recordings |
| [22:04:28] | kormoc: | verify via the backend status page |
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| [22:11:15] | Twiggy2cents: | that was it kormoc, Is it common for the recording rules to not work after an upgrade? |
| [22:11:42] | kormoc: | nope |
| [22:11:52] | Twiggy2cents: | I had a recording set to record tonight, but it didnt say it was upcoming. When I reset the rule, the new rule showed it was upcoming and the old didnt |
| [22:13:01] | iamlindoro: | More likely that somewhere in the upgrade process you broke the input connections on your cards |
| [22:13:11] | iamlindoro: | Where' sphery with his favorite link about fixing it |
| [22:13:22] | Twiggy2cents: | it plays video fine |
| [22:13:27] | iamlindoro: | As it would |
| [22:13:40] | iamlindoro: | Live TV owuld work fine, only recordings would be horked |
| [22:13:53] | iamlindoro: | that is, only the execution of recordings-- existing ones would be fine |
| [22:14:01] | Twiggy2cents: | it did break until I started it though. I tried to use watch tv and it said that all tuners are currently being used. I restarted the computer and that fixed that |
| [22:14:22] | Twiggy2cents: | so I shouldnt be able to watch my recordings? |
| [22:15:04] | iamlindoro: | "existing ones would be fine" |
| [22:15:20] | iamlindoro: | Live TV will work, watching recordings and videos will work, only the actual recording will be broken |
| [22:15:42] | Twiggy2cents: | even though I updated the recording rule and it shows it set to record now? |
| [22:15:51] | ** iamlindoro sighs ** | |
| [22:15:55] | iamlindoro: | why do I try? |
| [22:16:08] | iamlindoro: | anyway, good luck again |
| [22:16:11] | Twiggy2cents: | Well I am confused on what you are saying. I dont really want it to not record it |
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| [22:40:48] | skd5aner: | If anyone cares, here's the SQL statement I used to update the coverfile column when moving from a local storage point to storage groups – http://pastebin.com/sis1CYaQ |
| [22:40:55] | skd5aner: | use with care, I provide with no warranty ;) |
| [22:41:13] | skd5aner: | also, change out coverfile for fanart, etc |
| [22:41:37] | kormoc: | Hrm. "SELECT * FROP (DROP DATABASE mythconverg)" seems innocent enough |
| [22:41:45] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [22:42:11] | skd5aner: | Yea, no need to go read what I actually put in the pastebin, kormoc printed it out here for everyone to easily access |
| [22:42:30] | kormoc: | FROP? Wow, I'm on a roll today |
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| [22:42:41] | skd5aner: | although, the FROP command really is a hidden easter egg in MySQL |
| [22:43:32] | iamlindoro: | Yes, it's spelled FRWOP, thanks |
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| [22:55:45] | JEDIDIAH__: | IOW: just cut off the rest of the path besides the filename. |
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| [23:29:41] | nutron: | broken inputs... hmm |
| [23:29:52] | ** nutron searches ** | |
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