| Sunday, October 31st, 2010, 00:06 UTC | ||
| [00:06:47] | smooph1: | hi guys |
| [00:07:16] | smooph1: | for some reason my backend doesn't have my media in it |
| [00:07:52] | smooph1: | I have added the location od the directories in the "video" storage group |
| [00:08:13] | smooph1: | do I have to initiate a search in the backend |
| [00:08:23] | smooph1: | or is that just the case with the frontend |
| [00:09:03] | wagnerrp: | you have to do the same 'scan for videos' in the frontend |
| [00:09:28] | wagnerrp: | but since your content is now stored in the backend, the frontend will pull file lists from the backend, rather than the local file system |
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| [00:13:37] | smooph1: | wagnerrp: mhh the second folder in the backend seems to be detected but the thrid isn't |
| [00:13:54] | smooph1: | any idea why this could be the case |
| [00:17:19] | smooph1: | the backend is running as user mythtv ... and the share is mounted to a different user |
| [00:17:20] | wagnerrp: | you have three folders listed under the 'Videos' storage group in the backend? |
| [00:17:29] | smooph1: | yes |
| [00:17:30] | wagnerrp: | mounted how? |
| [00:17:37] | wagnerrp: | local? NFS? samba? |
| [00:17:46] | hednod: | is there a way to tell mythtv's build in player to buffer/cache a certain amount of the video/dvd/etc into ram? |
| [00:18:09] | smooph1: | turecrypt storage mounted as /media/truecrypt1 |
| [00:18:15] | wagnerrp: | hednod: no, mythtv just assumes you have a sufficiently stable connection |
| [00:19:07] | hednod: | wagnerrp: if only i was OCD enough to ensure my DVDs never sustain any surface damage ;) |
| [00:19:08] | wagnerrp: | there may be something going on with truecrypt where it will only allow access to the user who mounted it |
| [00:19:26] | wagnerrp: | is truecrypt a FUSE filesystem? |
| [00:19:44] | wagnerrp: | hednod: buy more hard drives, rip, and never use the DVDs again |
| [00:19:57] | KimK: | This might be related to my problem, how do you "scan for videos"? (Yes, i'm a MythTV noob) I've used the import function to read a DVD and I have it in /var/lib/mythtv/videos both as an .iso and as a .vob (?). But when I try to "play a video" there's nothing there. I'm very confused. Also, I can play a DVD with mplayer, but Myth(buntu) says, "frame buffering failed too many times" and gives up. |
| [00:20:20] | wagnerrp: | in mythvideo, hit 'm' |
| [00:20:22] | smooph1: | i don't know i think it mounts simply as an ntfs volume and the frontend can find the video so i don't think thats the problem |
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| [00:21:38] | wagnerrp: | is this mounted on your frontend or backend? |
| [00:23:07] | smooph1: | like i said in my case front and backend are on the same machine |
| [00:23:33] | wagnerrp: | ah, i didnt see that |
| [00:23:55] | smooph1: | i think there is a problem with my logic because the second folder i was telling u works is also owned by my user |
| [00:24:08] | smooph1: | something is fishy |
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| [00:25:58] | wagnerrp: | the frontend and the backend both just use whatever they can find on the filesystem |
| [00:26:17] | wagnerrp: | if the backend cannot read something, its probably a permissions issue |
| [00:26:46] | wagnerrp: | truecrypt drives work through a FUSE filesystem |
| [00:26:57] | wagnerrp: | typically, FUSE mounts are only available to the user who mounted them |
| [00:27:13] | wagnerrp: | so if you mount them with one user, and run the backend as another, the backend will not have access to that mount |
| [00:27:26] | wagnerrp: | use '-o allow_other' |
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| [00:34:15] | KimK: | wagnerrp: Thanks! That's progress. I must need to Google a reference card. Also, I can only play one of the two files, I'm guessing it's the .iso that Myth doesn't like? (I'm off to Google anyway, what the heck is a .vob?) Thanks again. Any parting advice? |
| [00:34:53] | wagnerrp: | video object, its a special type of MPEG container used by DVDs |
| [00:35:12] | wagnerrp: | KimK: are you using storage groups? |
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| [00:40:21] | dustybin: | my mythtv is borked for the first time in ages |
| [00:40:25] | KimK: | wagnerrp: Sorry, I'm not sure what you're referring to. I combined 97% of two drives into one LVM after my first unsuccessful partitioning attempt. (Well, I thought the videos would end up in /home. I got fooled. I'm paying my MythTV tuition, I guess. ) Is that what you're asking about? Or is it the ../videos ../music ../recordings , etc.? |
| [00:42:24] | wagnerrp: | did you define your video directors on the frontend? or backend? |
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| [00:47:30] | KimK: | This is the first time I've tried building a MythTV, I don't know much about it, it just sounded neat, and I thought I'd try it. (I just discovered F10/F11, that was helpful! ) What are the video directors? And would you know where Myth keeps the database password? I'd like to try installing a remote frontend, and it's asking for it. I wrote down the old one, but I had to reinstall after the /home debacle, lol. . |
| [00:48:27] | wagnerrp: | directories |
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| [00:49:04] | KimK: | I'm using Mythbuntu 10.04. I just left the defaults they had set up, maybe 8 or 10? |
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| [01:53:49] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I have run out of SATA ports on my motherboard and want to add more drive space to my MythTV backend. What would people recommend? |
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| [01:56:27] | wagnerrp: | larger motherboard, controller card |
| [01:56:38] | wagnerrp: | replaced drives |
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| [01:56:58] | Beirdo: | or eSATA external box, etc |
| [01:58:54] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | how many motherboards have more than 6? |
| [01:59:05] | wagnerrp: | there are several good solutions, no single right one |
| [01:59:09] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | The only ones I see are gaming motherboards. |
| [01:59:11] | wagnerrp: | i know of at lest one with 10 |
| [01:59:11] | Beirdo: | |
| [01:59:27] | wagnerrp: | or you could get a controller card |
| [01:59:30] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | As for the controller, I think the one I have in there is a piece of junk. |
| [01:59:36] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Anything attached to it isn't working properly. |
| [01:59:50] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I've been running my SATA DVD drive off of it. |
| [02:00:05] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Anyone know a good SATA controller card brand? |
| [02:00:10] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | At a reasonable price? |
| [02:00:15] | Beirdo: | |
| [02:00:33] | wagnerrp: | port expanders |
| [02:00:47] | Beirdo: | there are resources out there on libsata saying what's good with Linux and with what features |
| [02:00:58] | Beirdo: | err libata |
| [02:01:00] | wagnerrp: | i believe you can run 3 levels of 5 drives each per port (if the controller supports it) |
| [02:01:06] | wagnerrp: | up to 120 drives |
| [02:01:53] | Beirdo: | AHCI is a decent one, IIRC. Si3132 is the other ones I have |
| [02:02:18] | Beirdo: | sorry, SiI 3132 |
| [02:02:22] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | The current controller is at least 5 years old |
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| [02:06:50] | smooph: | wagnerrp: I cannot figure out how to mount a truecrypt disk as user1 and allow access to user2 |
| [02:06:56] | smooph: | any ideas? |
| [02:07:10] | [R]: | [05:27:26] +wagnerrp use '-o allow_other' |
| [02:07:21] | smooph: | not working |
| [02:07:29] | smooph: | tried that |
| [02:08:30] | smooph: | Oct 31 02:42:36 Smooph-Linux ntfs-3g[4689]: Version 2010.8.8 external FUSE 28 |
| [02:08:30] | smooph: | Oct 31 02:42:36 Smooph-Linux ntfs-3g[4689]: Mounted /dev/loop0 (Read-Write, label "", NTFS 3.1) |
| [02:08:30] | smooph: | Oct 31 02:42:36 Smooph-Linux ntfs-3g[4689]: Cmdline options: rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077 |
| [02:08:30] | smooph: | Oct 31 02:42:36 Smooph-Linux ntfs-3g[4689]: Mount options: rw,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,fsname=/dev/loop0,blkdev,blksize=4096,default_p ermissions |
| [02:08:30] | smooph: | Oct 31 02:42:36 Smooph-Linux ntfs-3g[4689]: Global ownership and permissions enforced, configuration type 1 |
| [02:08:59] | Beirdo: | pastebin for > 2 lines, please |
| [02:09:07] | smooph: | yeah sorry |
| [02:09:48] | Beirdo: | why you'd want to encrypt the video on disk, I'll never know |
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| [02:13:41] | [R]: | cuz hes recording porn |
| [02:13:42] | [R]: | DUH |
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| [02:14:04] | smooph: | not recording ... i am making it ;D |
| [02:14:15] | [R]: | what does making porn have to do with myth? |
| [02:14:38] | wagnerrp: | or disk encryption |
| [02:14:40] | smooph: | nothing but watching it |
| [02:16:10] | wagnerrp: | my point is... what purpose is there encrypting it |
| [02:16:14] | Beirdo: | ntfs under Linux still isn't the most heavily supported setup, let alone with encrypyion on top of it |
| [02:16:20] | wagnerrp: | the only reason to encrypt it is to protect it from someone |
| [02:16:22] | Beirdo: | you're better off going with ext4 |
| [02:17:04] | [R]: | wagnerrp: maybe hes trying to protect himself from it |
| [02:17:04] | [R]: | haha |
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| [02:39:21] | Beirdo: | OK, I think it's about time to start makin me a pot o' chili |
| [02:44:29] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like a plan, i even recently got a croc pot |
| [02:52:08] | dustybin: | ive created a local repository for slackware, debian and centos |
| [02:53:09] | dustybin: | if a new box is installed on my LAN or VM, i can point it to the local repository for fast installation :D |
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| [03:12:46] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: turkey chili with lots o beans, jalapenos, mushrooms, onion and a bit of fennel bulb just to try something new |
| [03:12:53] | Beirdo: | should be ready for dinner tomorrow |
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| [03:20:41] | wagnerrp: | you lost me at turkey |
| [03:20:53] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:21:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | me too... "Where's the Beef?!?" hehehehehe |
| [03:21:09] | Beirdo: | coulda used ground beef, but didn't feel like it |
| [03:22:10] | Beirdo: | I'll probably have to re-spice it tomorrow too |
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| [03:22:57] | Beirdo: | I always use the precision measurement technique of pour/pinch |
| [03:22:59] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [03:26:34] | wagnerrp: | ever had deer chili? |
| [03:29:56] | Beirdo: | not that I remember, but I've had venison stew often enough |
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| [03:36:06] | wagnerrp: | ive got some cousins who hunt, and they sometimes bring some to christmas, doesnt taste much different from beef |
| [03:37:00] | Beirdo: | a little gamier, but beef-esque |
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| [03:55:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | Humm... Seems like I've switched to HD (using HD-PVRs), mythbackend is not very responsive to the web interface... Are 32 threads normal for mythbackend? (only 1 recording going right now, and two mythcommflags) |
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| [04:04:38] | wagnerrp: | 32 does not seem excessive, no |
| [04:04:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: Ok, thanks. ;-) |
| [04:06:31] | bbolin: | is mythbuntu .23-fixes still receiving updates or do i need to upgrade to .23.1 |
| [04:06:52] | wagnerrp: | 0.23 and 0.23.1 are point releases |
| [04:06:59] | wagnerrp: | 0.23-fixes is the actual maintained branch |
| [04:07:04] | tgm4883: | bbee, 0.23.1 |
| [04:07:14] | tgm4883: | actually, 0.23.1 isn't getting updates anymore either |
| [04:08:52] | wagnerrp: | such infrequent backports, you guys arent even bothering any longer? |
| [04:09:38] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, we've promised to have autobuilds for 2 mythtv releases. current and trunk. |
| [04:09:55] | tgm4883: | we've stopped doing 0.23.1 since 0.24 was branched |
| [04:10:02] | wagnerrp: | well technically, 0.23 is still current |
| [04:10:08] | wagnerrp: | 0.24 is... i dont know what you would call it |
| [04:10:14] | wagnerrp: | but fair enough |
| [04:10:17] | Beirdo: | not current yet |
| [04:11:24] | tgm4883: | yea |
| [04:12:13] | tgm4883: | we're in the middle of transfering the builds to launchpad, so after that happens we might be able to do more |
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| [04:31:33] | Beirdo: | kormoc_afk: #9036. any reason we can't put in that fix to get rid of the ticket? |
| [04:43:44] | wagnerrp: | looks closed to me |
| [04:44:00] | Beirdo: | it is now |
| [04:44:10] | Beirdo: | xris nuked it |
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| [05:49:17] | LabMonkey: | ok so I have this mythbox that used to work quite well. |
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| [05:50:00] | LabMonkey: | At some point I decided that I needed a newer version of mythtv that required I use gentoo's testing packages, which as I recall was a bit of a headache. |
| [05:50:25] | LabMonkey: | I ran into problems with the database upgrade and gave up on it for a while. |
| [05:50:36] | LabMonkey: | That was like... last year or something |
| [05:50:45] | Beirdo: | nothing requires you ever to use gentoo of any strain |
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| [05:51:06] | wagnerrp: | nor does gentoo offer testing packages |
| [05:51:09] | LabMonkey: | I've finally got the box all updated again and back to stable keywords |
| [05:51:17] | LabMonkey: | wagnerrp: ~arch is testing |
| [05:51:35] | wagnerrp: | but theyre not packages |
| [05:51:45] | LabMonkey: | ... |
| [05:51:47] | wagnerrp: | and theyre not in a separate repository like most other managers |
| [05:52:02] | LabMonkey: | That's entirely irrelevant. |
| [05:53:15] | wagnerrp: | anyway... proceed, whats your issue |
| [05:54:22] | wagnerrp: | the database upgrade issues was a result of mythtv not enforcing a specific encoding, and gentoo using a different default decoding than mysql normally does |
| [05:54:23] | LabMonkey: | At this point, the box auto-starts mythtv on boot, which is what I want. The problem is that now LCDd and lirc are being bothersome. |
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| [05:55:38] | LabMonkey: | I don't really remember exactly what was the problem with the database, but it's a moot point now because I dropped it and started with a fresh database. |
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| [05:57:05] | LabMonkey: | I have two issues at the moment. |
| [05:57:31] | LabMonkey: | One is that for some reason the remote doesn't seem to work anymore even though I'm using the same config. |
| [05:57:56] | LabMonkey: | The other is that LCDd is spamming syslog with release/reserve messages. |
| [05:58:12] | LabMonkey: | or at least lirc_imon is anyway |
| [05:58:54] | wagnerrp: | can you pick anything up with irw and lircd running? can you pick anything up with mode2 with the modules loaded but lircd not running? |
| [05:59:21] | LabMonkey: | ahh yes, irw... that's the command I couldn't remember |
| [06:00:48] | LabMonkey: | yeah, nothing in irw |
| [06:01:28] | wagnerrp: | mode2+ |
| [06:01:29] | wagnerrp: | + |
| [06:01:42] | wagnerrp: | stupid laptop numlock |
| [06:01:46] | wagnerrp: | s/+/?/ |
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| [06:09:56] | LabMonkey: | uhm, mode2? |
| [06:10:07] | wagnerrp: | yes, mode2 |
| [06:10:21] | wagnerrp: | mode2 hits the drivers directly, and shows you the raw IR codes |
| [06:10:28] | wagnerrp: | before any processing by lircd |
| [06:10:55] | wagnerrp: | if mode2 works, lircd or your lircd.conf is screwed up |
| [06:11:01] | wagnerrp: | if mode2 does not work, your drivers are screwed up |
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| [06:12:56] | Beirdo: | mmm, starting to smell chili-like in here |
| [06:13:17] | Beirdo: | gonna make sleeping annoying (as it usually is when smelling yummy food) |
| [06:19:04] | LabMonkey: | ok |
| [06:19:12] | LabMonkey: | mode2 gets data from /dev/lirc0 |
| [06:19:26] | LabMonkey: | so... now I get to fiddle with lircd.conf I guess |
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| [09:36:34] | k-man: | wagnerrp: mythvidexport reports: status: error: "VideoGrabber" object has no attribute 'searchTitle" (i just upgraded to .24 fixes) |
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| [10:03:48] | k-man: | mythnetvideo takes time to update |
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| [10:18:29] | k-man: | any idea how to pause a video in mythnetvideo? |
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| [10:36:00] | dustybin: | my soundcart stutters on certain high pitch frequencies |
| [10:36:04] | dustybin: | *card |
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| [11:49:12] | oobe: | dustybin, i been trying to get mine to do that for ages how did you do it? |
| [11:51:31] | dustybin: | oobe: you want your soundcard to stutter on high pitch frequencies? |
| [11:52:38] | oobe: | no sorry i was just trying to be funny |
| [11:52:44] | oobe: | but it didnt work |
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| [11:53:15] | dustybin: | im using USB > SPDIF |
| [11:53:40] | dustybin: | it might be my amp |
| [11:53:46] | oobe: | usb devices can be problematic |
| [11:54:15] | oobe: | you could probably get some good help in the alsa channel |
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| [11:55:07] | dustybin: | aye thanks |
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| [14:26:01] | pyther: | Hello |
| [14:26:18] | pyther: | I'm trying to build mythtv and I keep getting the following error "Cannot find file: mythtv.pro. |
| [14:26:59] | pyther: | Does anyone now how i can troubleshoot and figure out why mythtv.pro isn't being created? |
| [14:27:49] | pyther: | it seems to be created on my i686 machine, but not my x86_64 machine |
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| [14:34:03] | pyther: | I'm going try to use make instead of qmake mythtv.pro |
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| [14:41:16] | sphery: | pyther: let me guess... you're upgrading to 0.24rc1 or trunk or something? |
| [14:42:39] | sphery: | you shouldn't be calling qmake mythtv.pro (doing so has been useless for a couple of years and is now explicitly wrong) |
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| [14:43:40] | pyther: | sphery: you guessed right, I'll contact the mantianer of the myth package (for my distro) to let him know |
| [14:43:52] | pyther: | sphery: I take it make is the recommened way to build? |
| [14:44:03] | sphery: | ./configure, make, make install |
| [14:44:52] | pyther: | Alright, perfect |
| [14:46:34] | pyther: | Hmm... how can I overcome this error: |
| [14:46:34] | pyther: | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pyther/builds/mythtv/src/mythtv/themes' |
| [14:46:35] | pyther: | ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied |
| [14:47:01] | pyther: | I'm building as a user + installing to a local dir as a user |
| [14:47:12] | sphery: | was that a make install? |
| [14:47:41] | pyther: | sphery: it looks like it |
| [14:47:44] | pyther: | make INSTALL_ROOT="${pkgdir}" install |
| [14:47:59] | pyther: | where pkgdir=/home/pyther/builds/mythtv/pkg |
| [14:47:59] | clever: | sphery: feels like its running ldconfig after installing, which fails even if you have perms to the --prefix |
| [14:49:00] | sphery: | clever: yes, exactly--the question is who is calling ldconfig for non-root users |
| [14:49:20] | clever: | i'm guessing the install rule in the makefiles assumes you are root |
| [14:49:25] | pyther: | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/283849/ <== partial build log |
| [14:49:34] | sphery: | clever: yes, exactly, the question is where |
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| [14:52:00] | jannau: | sphery: mythtv/programs/mythfrontend/mythfrontend.pro |
| [14:53:23] | pyther: | there is also a -ldconfig in src/mythtv/programs/mythfrontend/Makefile (I dunno what it does though) |
| [14:53:26] | jannau: | but that should it just remove on linux systems so it seems to be a qt/qmake thing |
| [14:53:51] | jannau: | pyther: that Makefile is autogenerated |
| [14:54:07] | pyther: | ahh |
| [14:54:09] | sphery: | so that seems to indicate that this would have done the same even before the hand-generated Makefile, right? |
| [14:54:33] | jannau: | I've never seen ldconfig being and install always as user |
| [14:54:39] | jannau: | +run |
| [14:55:56] | sphery: | pyther: did you do an svn switch or something on an older working copy? Maybe you just need to clean up Makefiles? |
| [14:56:38] | pyther: | sphery: no, I checked out clean sources and installed |
| [14:57:08] | pyther: | sphery: I commmented out that -ldconfig line in the makefile and I no longer get that error, but makeinstall still seems to fail |
| [14:57:32] | pyther: | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/283854/ |
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| [14:59:00] | jannau: | pyther: please run find . -name Makefile -print0 | xargs -0 — grep -n |
| [14:59:34] | pyther: | jannau: in the mythtv src dir? |
| [15:00:05] | jannau: | yes |
| [15:00:24] | pyther: | the command returns no output, I think the xargs part is broken |
| [15:00:43] | sphery: | missing the regex to find? |
| [15:00:48] | sphery: | ldconfig , perhaps? |
| [15:01:11] | sphery: | meaning: find . -name Makefile -print0 | xargs -0 — grep -n ldconfig |
| [15:01:25] | jannau: | yes, missed the ldconfig |
| [15:01:26] | pyther: | well it returns ./programs/mythfrontend/Makefile:3075:# -ldconfig |
| [15:01:39] | pyther: | I commented out the -ldconfig to try to install it |
| [15:01:49] | pyther: | but make install is still not exiting cleanly |
| [15:02:26] | jannau: | pyther: please run make V=2 install |
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| [15:03:08] | pyther: | as so? make INSTALL_ROOT="${pkgdir}" V=2 install |
| [15:03:38] | jannau: | yes |
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| [15:05:13] | pyther: | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/283856/ |
| [15:05:47] | pyther: | look at lines 14 + 15 |
| [15:06:07] | pyther: | maybe that is why it is failing? |
| [15:06:12] | sphery: | how exactly did you comment the -ldconfig? |
| [15:06:32] | sphery: | I think you may have broken the Makefile |
| [15:07:20] | pyther: | sphery: I simply put a # in fornt of -ldconfig |
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| [15:08:35] | pyther: | sphery: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/283857/ <== I removed the comment, look at lines 4–11 |
| [15:11:29] | pyther: | hmm... I'll recompile I don't see that error about ldconfig anymore |
| [15:15:13] | jannau: | pyther: are you adding a -jX with X > 1 to the make command? |
| [15:15:46] | pyther: | jannau: yes a -j5 |
| [15:16:49] | jannau: | don't do. non paralell make is much easier to debug |
| [15:17:10] | jannau: | and advantage during make install is neglible |
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| [15:17:41] | pyther: | jannau: can I still build the main pkg with make -j5 and run make install with -j1? |
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| [15:19:22] | pyther: | jannau + sphery: make install output with -j1 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/283861/ |
| [15:19:27] | jannau: | pyther: sure |
| [15:19:54] | pyther: | I ran a make clean on the source (and recompiled everything) |
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| [15:23:48] | jannau: | pyther: you're using unsuported configure options |
| [15:23:57] | pyther: | I am, which ones? |
| [15:24:05] | jannau: | I don't know |
| [15:24:22] | jannau: | please paste your configure line |
| [15:24:37] | jannau: | --enable-ffmpeg is one of them |
| [15:24:48] | pyther: | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/283863/ |
| [15:27:17] | jannau: | --enable-ffmpeg is the only one |
| [15:27:53] | pyther: | so does myth use the systems ffmpeg binary? |
| [15:28:33] | jannau: | it doesn't use any ffmpeg binary |
| [15:28:54] | pyther: | oh ok, so what did the --enable-ffmpeg do? |
| [15:29:08] | jannau: | it uses the internal copies of the libav* libraries |
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| [15:29:30] | pyther: | so instead it will use the system copies of libav now? |
| [15:29:41] | jannau: | no |
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| [15:30:13] | pyther: | jannau: well what happens when --enable-ffmpeg insn't included? |
| [15:30:25] | jannau: | nothing |
| [15:30:34] | jannau: | it breaks if you use it |
| [15:30:45] | pyther: | haha |
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| [15:35:23] | jpabq: | 4 |
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| [15:37:24] | pyther: | jannau: that fixed it, thanks. Sorry for wasting your time |
| [15:39:52] | smooph: | hi I have a little problem when I want to watch a .iso file ... the player starts for a second and than i am back in the frontend ... when i check the mythtvfrontend log its says failed to open dvd device at /dev/dvd |
| [15:40:11] | smooph: | which sounds correct because its just a dvd image |
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| [15:41:35] | wagnerrp: | smooph: are you trying to access a local or storage group file? |
| [15:42:24] | smooph: | the file is in the storage group "video" running on the backend |
| [15:42:42] | wagnerrp: | did you decrypt the ISO when you ripped it? |
| [15:42:48] | wagnerrp: | or just use 'dd'? |
| [15:42:57] | smooph: | btw I found the solution to the truecrypt problem from last night |
| [15:43:09] | wagnerrp: | ISOs over storage groups cannot be encrypted |
| [15:43:29] | smooph: | I don't know |
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| [15:44:25] | wagnerrp: | how did you make the iso? |
| [15:45:04] | smooph: | i didn't make it |
| [15:45:17] | smooph: | is there a way to find out now? |
| [15:45:21] | wagnerrp: | well then we cant help you here |
| [15:46:09] | wagnerrp: | sphery: 2TB WD Green, $80 on newegg |
| [15:46:17] | wagnerrp: | but its an EADS drive, not EARS |
| [15:46:24] | sphery: | what's the different? |
| [15:46:33] | JEDIDIAH__: | an EGADS drive? |
| [15:46:41] | wagnerrp: | 512b vs. 4K sectors |
| [15:47:13] | sphery: | I still think 512 is better with 2TB |
| [15:48:17] | dustybin: | i cannot get .23 to output 5.1 surround sound, on .22 i could select a menu what said ACD / DTS and keep the output as stero |
| [15:48:27] | dustybin: | *AC3 |
| [15:48:41] | sphery: | sure, may have a slight performance impact but it's myth data |
| [15:48:46] | sphery: | wagnerrp: is there some code? |
| [15:48:57] | sphery: | I'm seeing it for $99.99 |
| [15:49:03] | wagnerrp: | EMCZYZX48 |
| [15:49:19] | wagnerrp: | instant $20 off |
| [15:49:58] | JEDIDIAH__: | ...actually, I thought the alignment issue with the 4K drives was more like a severe performance impact. |
| [15:50:10] | dustybin: | should my speaker configuration be: stereo or 5.1 surround, in .22 i has to keep it stero |
| [15:50:46] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I ordered that 2TB drive last night. |
| [15:51:00] | wagnerrp: | JEDIDIAH__: if you have an alignment issue, you have a configuration issue |
| [15:51:10] | wagnerrp: | make sure the first partition starts at block 64 instead of 63 |
| [15:51:20] | wagnerrp: | and then format with 4k blocks (or a multiple there of) |
| [15:52:41] | JEDIDIAH__: | you can usually distill any "performance issue" into a "configuration issue". |
| [15:52:45] | sphery: | or, better, cfdisk -s 56 or fdisk -S 56 or tell parted to use 56 sectors per track, and it all works with everything |
| [15:53:28] | sphery: | JEDIDIAH__: the performance impact I was talking about was the performance required to CRC in 512B hunks versus 4kB hunks |
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| [15:55:29] | dustybin: | .23 is missing Enable DTS to SPDIF passthrough check |
| [15:55:30] | dustybin: | :( |
| [15:55:40] | ** dustybin feels sad and lost ** | |
| [15:55:43] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | You can put a PCI-E SATA controller card into a PCI-E slot usually used for graphics, right? |
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| [15:58:32] | dlublink: | I want to have a game in my MythTV, but it only seems to like emulators. All I want is that when you select "name of my game" it runs /usr/local/sbin/launchMyGame |
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| [15:59:28] | sphery: | dlublink: it should work just fine. I don't know if this is still up-to-date, but see http://wiki.mythtv.com/wiki/MythGame#PC-Game_Setup |
| [15:59:48] | dlublink: | thx |
| [16:00:10] | dlublink: | hehe, I was off a bit |
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| [16:01:13] | kisak: | GadgetWisdomGuru: that doesn't sound like a good idea |
| [16:02:38] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Kisak, why? |
| [16:02:43] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | It's a headless server |
| [16:02:54] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I'm told it works, but I've never tried it |
| [16:05:57] | kisak: | GadgetWisdomGuru: I stand corrected |
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| [16:06:17] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Kisak, tentatively corrected. Who knows if my motherboard will like it? |
| [16:06:25] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I'll tell you midweek |
| [16:06:29] | dustybin: | its a bug!!! im using mythtv .23 i need to upgrade :D |
| [16:06:36] | dustybin: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/441805 |
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| [16:07:16] | kisak: | GadgetWisdomGuru: yeah, let me know how it turns out |
| [16:07:52] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | It was much cheaper than finding a 4 port card. |
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| [16:08:15] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | For that matter, someone tell me why external ESATA enclosures cost more than USB enclosures? |
| [16:08:25] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | USB ones need controller boards. ESATA ones don't |
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| [16:10:47] | dlublink: | I want mythfrontend to shutdown the computer when it exists. |
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| [16:14:31] | dlublink: | n/m, I found it in the setup menu |
| [16:14:31] | dlublink: | :D |
| [16:14:36] | dlublink: | My mythtv is ready to go |
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| [16:26:58] | pyther: | Is there still an option to change the osd theme? |
| [16:28:28] | wagnerrp: | no, the OSD and UI are now one theme |
| [16:28:45] | wagnerrp: | if you want to mix-and-match, youll need to edit the theme |
| [16:29:31] | pyther: | Hmm... ok, I wonder if it is a theme bug, it only shows one line of the show description |
| [16:30:34] | pyther: | wagnerrp: the time to takes to lock onto a channel, is that a myth thing or a hardware thing? |
| [16:30:51] | wagnerrp: | a bit of both |
| [16:31:16] | wagnerrp: | its a hardware limit |
| [16:31:31] | wagnerrp: | but the handling of that information in mythtv was recently revised in 0.24/trunk |
| [16:31:45] | pyther: | ok, well it didn't improve so it must mostly be hardware |
| [16:31:52] | pyther: | takes probably 3–5 seconds for a lock |
| [16:33:59] | pyther: | still no way to increase the audio volume is there? |
| [16:34:17] | wagnerrp: | in what scenario? |
| [16:34:32] | wagnerrp: | if you are recording digitally, the volume is set during time of encoding, by the broadcaster |
| [16:34:43] | pyther: | that is what I mean |
| [16:34:56] | pyther: | I have to crank the volume up on my speakers :-/ |
| [16:35:00] | wagnerrp: | if outputting digitally, there is no volume until it gets decoded by the device at the other end of the link |
| [16:35:07] | pyther: | so all my other audio is loud as hell |
| [16:35:10] | wagnerrp: | you can use softvol in between |
| [16:35:22] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if that was added in 0.23 or 0.24 |
| [16:35:36] | pyther: | what is softvol? |
| [16:36:01] | wagnerrp: | where you use digital audio, but you decode it, preamp it, re-encode it, and send it on to the remote device |
| [16:36:20] | pyther: | is that cpu intensive? |
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| [16:37:12] | wagnerrp: | not terribly |
| [16:37:23] | pyther: | wagnerrp: you have a guide or link to some documentation? |
| [16:37:26] | wagnerrp: | better to just use LPCM if your link supports it though |
| [16:37:59] | wagnerrp: | spdif or hdmi? |
| [16:38:19] | pyther: | neither, an analog 3.5mm connection to some crappy computer speakers |
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| [16:39:36] | wagnerrp: | then you are not using digital output, and the volume shoudl work fine |
| [16:40:15] | pyther: | wagnerrp: I know I'm not using digital output, the broadcaster just broadcast the volume much lower than the rest of my other audio stuff |
| [16:40:36] | pyther: | so is the softvol only for digital audio connections? |
| [16:40:59] | wagnerrp: | apparently there is some flag in AC3 were not reading |
| [16:41:09] | wagnerrp: | that is supposed to set a 'decode volume' |
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| [16:56:22] | fugdnscerd: | is anyone familiar with using xbmc as a frontend? I know mythfrontend and mythbackend must be of, at least very nearly, the same build in order to interoperate. I am curious about whether this holds true for native mythtv support in xbmc |
| [16:56:55] | wagnerrp: | xbmc will connect to any backend, whether it knows how to talk to it or not |
| [16:57:32] | fugdnscerd: | is that with the native mythtv support or just the upnp protocol? I wish to be able to watch live tv if at all possible |
| [16:58:11] | wagnerrp: | if by 'native', you mean the 3rd party library that ignores the protocol version check to force a connection |
| [16:59:01] | fugdnscerd: | ok i understand.. just repeating the terminology used in the xbmc documentation.. thanks |
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| [17:35:27] | jannau: | !seen mkrufky |
| [17:35:27] | MythLogBot: | mkrufky was last seen 25 days 18 hours 11 minutes 6 seconds ago |
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| [17:41:07] | wagnerrp: | he doesnt come around much these days |
| [17:43:06] | jannau: | yes |
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| [18:54:24] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [18:54:59] | dustybin: | Beirdo: is your chilli hot? |
| [18:55:06] | Beirdo: | fairly |
| [18:55:24] | dustybin: | yum |
| [18:55:30] | Beirdo: | #9109... why do people think that a "me too" lends any help? |
| [18:56:38] | dustybin: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9109 |
| [18:56:57] | dustybin: | wow i didnt even realise all those details existed |
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| [19:06:05] | Widget: | are there any ebuilds for gentoo linux for 0.24rc1 that need testing? just seem to have borked my install, and as i'm starting again i could skip the upgrade too... |
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| [19:12:24] | Widget: | ah, there are on github |
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| [19:33:48] | Widget: | hmm, can't get the marcT overlay working at all |
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| [19:37:48] | wagnerrp: | you have used overlays in the past? |
| [19:38:28] | Widget: | yeah |
| [19:38:49] | Widget: | but the mt-mythtv overlay just isn't being recognised, even if I specify the overlay list with -o on the cmdline |
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| [19:40:21] | Widget: | wagnerrp: perhaps it doesn't work for layman 1.4? |
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| [19:40:49] | wagnerrp: | layman just gives you automated download of several overlays |
| [19:40:56] | wagnerrp: | you still have to define them in your make.conf |
| [19:41:10] | Widget: | yeah, but it's not doing the downloading part |
| [19:41:21] | Widget: | my other overlays work |
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| [19:41:48] | Widget: | i might just try to repair the TV channels table and put off upgrading for a month |
| [19:42:23] | Widget: | i did a rescan of existing transports this morning and it's replicated 200 of the channels in the DB |
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| [20:10:46] | Widget: | where does mythtv store which channel it's going to try when selecting "watch tv"? think i just deleted it, and now watch TV doesn't work |
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| [20:11:03] | Widget: | "EntryToProgram(0@Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970) failed to get pginfo" |
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| [20:37:03] | Widget: | bah, and bbc four still doesn't work! :( |
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| [21:03:15] | justTom: | hello all. I recently did a fresh install of Mythubuntu 10.10 and am having problems with getting sound off of my analog capture cards. |
| [21:03:35] | [R]: | bttv cards suck hard |
| [21:04:13] | justTom: | in older versions of mythbuntu I would set my analog audio devices to /dev/dsp1 & /dev/dsp2 (I have two PCTC 800i cards) |
| [21:04:28] | justTom: | not there is no /dev/dsp* devices in /dev |
| [21:04:48] | dustybin: | [R]: language |
| [21:04:50] | justTom: | anyone know what to set the catpure cards audio devices to? |
| [21:05:18] | justTom: | apparently Ubuntu ships with a kernel w/o oss support |
| [21:05:27] | Beirdo: | justTom: use ALSA |
| [21:05:43] | [R]: | dustybin: suck? lol |
| [21:05:58] | Beirdo: | OSS is ancient, not too surprising it's not working with current kernels |
| [21:06:17] | justTom: | Beirdo – yep, that is my thought, but I don't know how to figure out what to type into the myth config to do that |
| [21:06:37] | justTom: | I tried aplay -L and it only shows stuff for my sound card |
| [21:06:53] | [R]: | sounds like you dindt load the bttv alsa driver |
| [21:07:08] | justTom: | these areds are not BTTV |
| [21:07:23] | justTom: | c2388x or somethi8ng like that |
| [21:07:38] | justTom: | PCTV 800i |
| [21:07:55] | [R]: | but its not an mpeg card? |
| [21:08:07] | justTom: | nope – not mpeg |
| [21:08:28] | [R]: | sounds like a super crap card if it doesnt have an alsa driver |
| [21:08:45] | Beirdo: | or maybe it does and its not installed |
| [21:09:09] | [R]: | s/alsa driver/alsa driver that is in the kernel/ |
| [21:10:29] | justTom: | this is the card: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacl . . . _Card_(800i) |
| [21:11:57] | justTom: | the DVB part works just fine and the analog part used to work jsut fine. I guess I need to figure out what the also driver is for it |
| [21:12:58] | Beirdo: | couldn't say |
| [21:13:12] | [R]: | well what driver did it used to |
| [21:13:14] | [R]: | used to use |
| [21:13:34] | justTom: | oss |
| [21:13:37] | Beirdo: | you'll need to look at the dmesg output |
| [21:13:43] | [R]: | oss isn't a driver |
| [21:13:45] | [R]: | its a framework |
| [21:13:47] | [R]: | which oss driver |
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| [21:14:15] | justTom: | I didn't have to play around with alsa, I jsut got /dev/dsp1,/dev/dsp2 devices that I could type into Myth |
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| [21:14:53] | justTom: | I guess I don't know what OSS driver I used, it just worked out of the box |
| [21:15:29] | Beirdo: | lspci -vvnn look anything like what it says on the linuxtv page? |
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| [21:17:17] | justTom: | yeah lspci -vvnn looks pretty much the same |
| [21:17:31] | Beirdo: | OK, that's good |
| [21:17:53] | Beirdo: | does it have "Kernel driver in use:" lines? |
| [21:18:09] | justTom: | aha yeah I just spotted: Kernel driver in use: cx88_audio |
| [21:18:17] | justTom: | and Kernel modules: cx88-alsa |
| [21:18:23] | Beirdo: | OK, so it's loading drivers. good |
| [21:19:06] | Beirdo: | arecord -l list them? |
| [21:19:36] | Beirdo: | aplay -l is pointless as you are trying to capture, not playback (BTW) |
| [21:19:44] | justTom: | yes it does |
| [21:19:59] | Beirdo: | gooood :) |
| [21:20:26] | Beirdo: | how about arecord -L |
| [21:20:38] | Beirdo: | that should list it with the ALSA device name |
| [21:21:31] | justTom: | no, all the entries show "card=nVidia" for my mobo |
| [21:21:45] | Beirdo: | in arecord -L? |
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| [21:21:49] | justTom: | yeah |
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| [21:22:25] | Beirdo: | can you pastebin the output of arecord -l and arecord -L? |
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| [21:23:59] | justTom: | here you are: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/rynBGZ0N |
| [21:24:26] | Beirdo: | and arecord -l? |
| [21:25:08] | justTom: | http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tr33hKB6 |
| [21:25:37] | Beirdo: | OK, it looks promising |
| [21:26:53] | Beirdo: | not sure if there's scanning on the ALSA input devices or not |
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| [21:27:45] | Beirdo: | but ALSA:CARD=CXX801,DEV=0 or something like that should do it |
| [21:28:10] | justTom: | sweet, I was thinking something like that too... |
| [21:28:28] | Beirdo: | and then CARD=CXX801_1,DEV=0 for the second card |
| [21:28:35] | justTom: | right |
| [21:28:39] | Beirdo: | with ALSA: in front of course |
| [21:29:01] | justTom: | now, any idea if these assignments will switch on reboot? |
| [21:29:16] | Beirdo: | doubtfukl |
| [21:29:27] | justTom: | with oss I had to write udev rules to assign symlinks |
| [21:29:50] | justTom: | ok |
| [21:29:53] | Beirdo: | unless you move them around on the PCI bus, I wouldn't expect them to change |
| [21:30:11] | justTom: | cool, I'm gonna go give it a try! |
| [21:30:18] | justTom: | thanks for the help! |
| [21:30:19] | Beirdo: | worth a try :) |
| [21:30:21] | Beirdo: | no problem |
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| [22:52:18] | k-man: | finaly upgraded to .24-fixes last night |
| [22:52:27] | k-man: | upgrade went very smoothly |
| [22:52:35] | k-man: | and everything seems to be working |
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| [23:10:33] | [R]: | they want to put kde libs in qt |
| [23:10:35] | [R]: | that sounds bloaty |
| [23:13:06] | Beirdo: | qt is already bloaty |
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| [23:19:55] | Beirdo: | ahh, spicy chili :) |
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| [23:20:09] | Beirdo: | I put too much tomato in, it's a bit too liquid |
| [23:20:16] | Beirdo: | I'll deal |
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| [23:31:58] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: I just ... disposed ... of what looked like liquidy chili. |
| [23:32:23] | Beirdo: | uh huh |
| [23:32:27] | CyberKnet: | uh huh |
| [23:32:39] | CyberKnet: | The sense of urgency was fierce. |
| [23:33:07] | CyberKnet: | Looking forward to the butternut squash soup for dinner though. |
| [23:33:17] | CyberKnet: | Loooove butternut squash soup. |
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| [23:38:23] | ** wagnerrp needs a new monitor ** | |
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| [23:39:42] | wagnerrp: | its like the power supply in it needs to warm up |
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