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| [00:08:11] | Josh`: | AHa, it seems that there is some sanity checking done by mythweb on the database. Supposedly if the path names in the database for the hostname that mythweb is running on are missing, or incorrect, it doesnt bother to even show you the icons as an available plugin. |
| [00:08:35] | Josh`: | I guess the best thing would be to run the mythfrontend gui on my apache box. |
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| [00:55:49] | Beirdo: | surprise, surprise... Ubuntu's makin me mad again |
| [00:58:25] | Beirdo: | stupid directions are wrong |
| [01:05:14] | Beirdo: | doesn't want to seem to want to do bridging to virtualbox |
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| [01:16:48] | iamlindoro: | Someone put the commit juice in kormoc's coffee |
| [01:17:05] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:19:32] | kormoc: | heh |
| [01:19:46] | kormoc: | well, the freeze is here any day now, so I gotta get it done |
| [01:20:43] | iamlindoro: | Well, not that I want to discourage it, but fixes can go in any time :) |
| [01:20:54] | iamlindoro: | Erm... that is... yeah, better get those fixes in quick ;) |
| [01:21:01] | kormoc: | heh |
| [01:21:08] | kormoc: | some of the fixes later are features as well |
| [01:23:56] | kormoc: | pizza in the oven, yum |
| [01:24:06] | Beirdo: | hehe, I did that for lunch |
| [01:24:43] | Beirdo: | OK, I think I finally have Vista under virtualbox liking to bridge |
| [01:25:10] | Beirdo: | now to figure out how to use RDP |
| [01:35:28] | Beirdo: | oh BAH |
| [01:35:39] | Beirdo: | RDP is only available in the closed-source version |
| [01:49:13] | Beirdo: | #8863 looks like a minor change gone wrong |
| [01:49:37] | Beirdo: | sigh. I'll look at it in a moment |
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| [02:18:03] | Beirdo: | this hurts my brain |
| [02:18:05] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:18:27] | Beirdo: | the guy obviously doesn't know how qmake works (although I can't blame him there) |
| [02:19:36] | Beirdo: | one of the hacks he put in is fixable with an INCLUDEPATH += ../libmythui |
| [02:21:01] | clever: | Beirdo: last time i used virtual box, i got weird stuff happening |
| [02:21:20] | clever: | vnc server (running on linux) watching virtualbox and playing pinball in xp, had great performance |
| [02:21:29] | clever: | better then native vnc on windows without an VM! |
| [02:21:52] | clever: | then when i shutdown windows, all hell breaks loose on linux, sleep(anything) exits right away |
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| [02:33:52] | Beirdo: | there. |
| [02:34:11] | Beirdo: | #8863 has been looked at, and if that fixes his issues, I'll commit |
| [02:34:31] | Beirdo: | now... I need food and I don't feel like cooking. I'll be back |
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| [02:56:50] | cromag: | i'm trying to get epg via XML, my program guide does nto show any programs, but i can search program finder and quite alot of show are presented, with time and date. What am i doing wrong ? :) |
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| [03:00:08] | kormoc: | did you test with the test pages? |
| [03:00:36] | cromag: | me + |
| [03:00:38] | cromag: | ?* |
| [03:00:49] | kormoc: | yes |
| [03:00:57] | cromag: | not sure what you refer to i must say |
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| [03:01:20] | kormoc: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . /MythXMLTest |
| [03:01:41] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, Think he means via XMLtv |
| [03:01:44] | iamlindoro: | could be wrong, though |
| [03:01:57] | cromag: | and xml file |
| [03:02:00] | cromag: | an* |
| [03:02:06] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [03:02:18] | kormoc: | yeah, ignore that then |
| [03:02:30] | cromag: | np. |
| [03:06:19] | cromag: | i dont get it |
| [03:06:31] | cromag: | i would believe it should be there.. |
| [03:07:58] | iamlindoro: | more than likely, you imported it for the wrong source |
| [03:08:01] | iamlindoro: | number |
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| [03:23:23] | cromag: | i belive i update for the right source |
| [03:24:13] | cromag: | i asked the mysqldb to be sure. |
| [03:29:12] | cromag: | i just understand why i see program names and timestamps. |
| [03:29:18] | cromag: | just not in the guide. |
| [03:29:26] | iamlindoro: | because it's attached to the wrong source |
| [03:29:51] | iamlindoro: | guide data will show in search but not in the guide when you have imported it into the wrong source |
| [03:30:21] | cromag: | is this correct then: sourceid: 1 |
| [03:30:25] | cromag: | from mysqldb |
| [03:30:34] | cromag: | or am i looking at this wrong ? |
| [03:30:52] | iamlindoro: | doesn't mean anything out of context |
| [03:31:08] | cromag: | that is the result of mysql> select * from cardinput\G |
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| [03:47:24] | Beirdo: | oh odd |
| [03:47:41] | Beirdo: | RDP from virtualbox isn't being too nice to me from Windoes |
| [03:47:57] | Beirdo: | mouse pointer doesn't track |
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| [03:49:19] | Beirdo: | I think I should install the guest utils |
| [03:50:59] | wagnerrp: | should only be needed for hardware access |
| [03:51:06] | wagnerrp: | improved USB and graphics |
| [03:52:13] | Beirdo: | and mouse |
| [03:52:14] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [03:52:41] | wagnerrp: | shouldnt need it for mouse |
| [03:53:04] | Beirdo: | well, it doesn't track the mouse right when using RDP |
| [03:53:09] | Beirdo: | which is frigging odd |
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| [04:01:46] | Beirdo: | let's change it to think it's a USB tablet |
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| [04:06:25] | Beirdo: | muuuuch better |
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| [04:09:36] | dj_segfault: | Hi. I'm having a problem with mythtv-status incorrectly reporting disk space. At the top of the emailed output, it says "Total Disk Space: Total space is 2,055.7 GB, with 406.0 GB used (19.7%)", which is correct. But at the bottom, the group report is very wrong. "Total space for group 1 is 451.2 GB, with 31,657 MB used (7016.2%) ". I'm reasonably certain I'm not using 7016% of my disk. I'm guessing the units |
| [04:10:09] | wagnerrp: | sounds like mythtv-status is broken |
| [04:11:12] | dj_segfault: | This is on ubunut 10.04, but it said that back when I had 9.10 too. I wouldn't mind, but it means every day I get a disk space warning. |
| [04:12:08] | Beirdo: | so go fix it? |
| [04:12:18] | iamlindoro: | dj_segfault, What wagnerrp is getting at is, that's not our code, so we can't do anything about it |
| [04:12:30] | iamlindoro: | you'd need to contact whomever the author of mythtv-status is |
| [04:12:38] | dj_segfault: | I tried looking at the script but it's way past my level of perl code. |
| [04:12:48] | dj_segfault: | OK, I thought it was part of mythtv. |
| [04:12:52] | iamlindoro: | nope |
| [04:13:18] | dj_segfault: | Cool. I'll do that. Thanks. |
| [04:14:03] | Beirdo: | so.. have a working Vista under virtualbox |
| [04:17:24] | Beirdo: | and I'm regretting naming it "MS Windows Vista Ultimate" |
| [04:17:42] | Beirdo: | as now I have to type that in every time I wanna start it up headless |
| [04:18:31] | Beirdo: | shoulda just called it "vista" |
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| [04:29:04] | Beirdo: | next... freebsd... I guess :) |
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| [04:33:50] | Beirdo: | ooooh |
| [04:33:53] | Beirdo: | iscsi? |
| [04:33:54] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [04:34:02] | Beirdo: | will be useful for later |
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| [05:23:28] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: should I go with IDE, SATA, SCSI or SAS for my freebsd virtualbox? |
| [05:23:43] | wagnerrp: | yes? |
| [05:23:57] | wagnerrp: | no? |
| [05:24:04] | wagnerrp: | definitely maybe... |
| [05:24:09] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:24:23] | Beirdo: | any definite advantageous choices? |
| [05:24:53] | wagnerrp: | IDE (and SATA in IDE mode) will show up as 'ad* |
| [05:25:00] | wagnerrp: | the rest will be 'da*' |
| [05:25:18] | wagnerrp: | not really sure what the advantages or disadvantages would be |
| [05:25:22] | Beirdo: | K :) |
| [05:25:30] | Beirdo: | I think I'll do SATA |
| [05:25:34] | wagnerrp: | other than 'da' drives (direct access) may be hot-swappable |
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| [05:35:53] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [05:36:14] | Beirdo: | it won't let me attach the ISO as an SATA drive. Hmmm |
| [05:36:26] | Beirdo: | fine, I'll add a lousy IDE controller too |
| [05:37:59] | Beirdo: | OK, I think I got it all |
| [05:39:41] | Beirdo: | Standard install? |
| [05:39:58] | Beirdo: | gave it 512MB RAM, BTW |
| [05:42:09] | Beirdo: | Developer + Ports |
| [05:42:12] | Beirdo: | sound good? |
| [05:42:45] | wagnerrp: | should be |
| [05:45:08] | Beirdo: | it's on its way |
| [05:45:31] | Beirdo: | I really like being able to use RDP to remotely use virtualbox |
| [05:45:38] | Beirdo: | screw VNC |
| [05:46:01] | Beirdo: | RDP is one of the few things that Microsoft really did get right |
| [05:47:37] | Beirdo: | oh, and the LCD seems to workin fine :) |
| [05:47:45] | Beirdo: | haven't got myth using it yet though |
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| [06:01:16] | clever: | Beirdo: what does RDP have that vnc lacks? |
| [06:01:30] | wagnerrp: | sound |
| [06:01:31] | clever: | mostly i find it just seems to repaint alot better/faster |
| [06:01:44] | clever: | ah, ive hacked that in before by routing audio thru ventrilo |
| [06:03:50] | Beirdo: | sound, working flawlessly... encryption from day 1 |
| [06:04:09] | Beirdo: | and as my client is WinXP... |
| [06:08:56] | Beirdo: | extracting ports into /usr..... |
| [06:15:44] | wagnerrp: | and thats it, the last of my changes for 0.24 |
| [06:18:05] | Beirdo: | booting freebsd :) |
| [06:21:10] | Beirdo: | first thing... cd /usr/ports/shells/bash-completion ; make install |
| [06:21:19] | Beirdo: | I hate /bin/sh |
| [06:22:36] | wagnerrp: | bash-completion? not just bash |
| [06:22:39] | wagnerrp: | whats the difference? |
| [06:22:49] | wagnerrp: | and the default shell is tcsh, not sh |
| [06:22:56] | Beirdo: | adds extra filename completions |
| [06:23:05] | Beirdo: | tcsh is tolerable :) |
| [06:23:49] | Beirdo: | but I prefer bash with even more bells & whistles |
| [06:24:27] | Beirdo: | so this is kinda funny |
| [06:24:38] | Beirdo: | the virtualboxes think they have gige |
| [06:24:51] | Beirdo: | but the port they are bridged onto... 100M |
| [06:25:14] | wagnerrp: | does that screw with UDP scaling? |
| [06:25:30] | Beirdo: | shouldn't, I wouldn't expect |
| [06:26:05] | Beirdo: | at worst, I can always change the virtual driver |
| [06:26:24] | Beirdo: | but on Vista, the 100M one didn't wanna work at first |
| [06:26:27] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [06:27:26] | Beirdo: | so VBoxHeadless... 100% CPU |
| [06:27:30] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [06:31:00] | cromag: | now, EPG works. |
| [06:31:16] | cromag: | \o/ |
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| [07:03:40] | Beirdo: | and now to install git |
| [07:03:46] | Beirdo: | which will suck in perl :) |
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| [07:09:07] | Beirdo: | oooh, 5.8.9 |
| [07:09:15] | Beirdo: | oooold perl :) |
| [07:09:20] | Beirdo: | like I care |
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| [07:20:50] | wagnerrp: | is it possible that a SATA drive not support hotswap? |
| [07:22:23] | wagnerrp: | ive got a WD that for some reason will not run |
| [07:22:32] | Beirdo: | It's possible, I guess |
| [07:22:53] | Beirdo: | I'm still not a WD fan :) |
| [07:23:14] | wagnerrp: | its an old one, 250GB |
| [07:25:12] | Beirdo: | hhe |
| [07:25:25] | Beirdo: | I remember my 250MB one... |
| [07:26:06] | wagnerrp: | i had one around that size, no idea what brand |
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| [07:28:30] | Beirdo: | back then, WD was undisputed king :) |
| [07:28:41] | Beirdo: | until they hit 1.6GB and fell to crap |
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| [07:53:40] | joot: | I bought a win tv hvr-4400 hd card but I was told there are no drivers for it as yet does any one know if some work is being on drivers for this cars please? |
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| [07:54:58] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [07:54:58] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [07:55:06] | Beirdo: | beat me to it :) |
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| [07:55:54] | joot: | Thanks to the bot and it masters.. LOL |
| [07:59:04] | clever: | all hail our robot overlords! |
| [08:02:18] | joot: | Looks as though there is no support :( |
| [08:02:36] | wagnerrp: | not ours to fix |
| [08:02:47] | wagnerrp: | see the #linuxtv people |
| [08:03:08] | wagnerrp: | the HVR-4000 drivers may be adaptable to support the 4400 |
| [08:03:13] | wagnerrp: | if theyre sufficiently similar |
| [08:03:32] | joot: | I am not complaining just wondering if I get get help |
| [08:03:56] | wagnerrp: | anyway, linuxtv provides the drivers, we just interface with their API |
| [08:04:01] | joot: | Negative it has a different set up |
| [08:05:12] | joot: | I wanted to buy a 4000 as it was reccomended to me but it is unavailable. |
| [08:06:18] | Beirdo: | I don't wanna get a flu shot, thank you very much, Walgreens |
| [08:06:57] | wagnerrp: | come now, be a good little sheep with viral fear |
| [08:07:14] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:07:39] | joot: | Ok guys thanks any way I will let you get back to you discussion :) |
| [08:07:41] | Beirdo: | I prefer to strengthen my immune system, not weaken it, thanks |
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| [08:07:58] | wagnerrp: | im all for vaccines for relatively static, and dangerous stuff |
| [08:08:11] | Beirdo: | and ones that WORK |
| [08:08:14] | wagnerrp: | but theres just far too many strains of flu for a vaccine to be worthwhile |
| [08:09:43] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [08:10:14] | Beirdo: | and I do think that many people depend on it so much that it's actually making them far worse for the wear |
| [08:10:47] | Beirdo: | and their immune system can't handle the norm anymore because they never let it grow and flex its "muscles" |
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| [08:11:39] | wagnerrp: | adults, im not so sure |
| [08:11:44] | wagnerrp: | but thats absolutely the case for kids |
| [08:12:05] | Beirdo: | it's hard to say, ywah |
| [08:13:04] | Beirdo: | and with the stupidity we got into with overusing antibiotics, you'd think as a society we'd be a lot more careful |
| [08:13:44] | wagnerrp: | have the DVB hauppauge cards gone all PCIe? |
| [08:13:59] | wagnerrp: | i only see a single PCI card on their site anymore |
| [08:14:00] | Beirdo: | dunno. :) |
| [08:14:21] | Beirdo: | probably. Everyone seems to be jumping the PCI ship like rats |
| [08:14:37] | wagnerrp: | about time |
| [08:14:46] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [08:15:19] | Beirdo: | PCI is still a good bus, and actually is probably better for low-bandwidth uses, costs less to develop |
| [08:15:54] | Beirdo: | flippin dev box... just did an md-check |
| [08:16:10] | Beirdo: | and caused timeouts in the freebsd virtualbox |
| [08:16:11] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [08:16:19] | Beirdo: | soft resets... |
| [08:16:20] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:16:35] | wagnerrp: | i have to believe that a PCIe serial interface is cheaper to implement than a PCI one |
| [08:16:49] | Beirdo: | doubtful |
| [08:16:52] | wagnerrp: | thats half the reason everything is going serial isnt it? |
| [08:17:17] | Beirdo: | nah, it's the higher bandwidth/ease of layout |
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| [08:17:33] | Beirdo: | but serial interfaces are more complex internally, I'd think |
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| [08:17:49] | Beirdo: | and PCI chips have been around like... forever |
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| [08:18:04] | Beirdo: | PCIe is good though, of course |
| [08:18:22] | Beirdo: | but 1X cards are kinda a waste anyways |
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| [08:18:44] | Beirdo: | now for video where it's 16X... a total different story :) |
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| [08:19:06] | wagnerrp: | for video where its 16x, its hugely overkill |
| [08:19:24] | Beirdo: | not for long |
| [08:19:35] | wagnerrp: | oh? |
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| [08:19:50] | Beirdo: | they'll come up with something that needs it |
| [08:20:02] | Beirdo: | have bandwidth, will use it |
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| [08:21:25] | Beirdo: | anyways, who knows |
| [08:21:46] | Beirdo: | but dang, for a modem... PCI is massive overkill |
| [08:21:53] | Beirdo: | ISA nearly is |
| [08:21:56] | wagnerrp: | anyway, PCIe3.0 should be out next year |
| [08:22:06] | wagnerrp: | thats 1GBps per channel |
| [08:22:06] | Beirdo: | so let's put out PCIe modems... |
| [08:22:44] | wagnerrp: | the only reason you could use that sort of thing for graphics is if youre going to start getting rid of onboard memory |
| [08:23:07] | wagnerrp: | keep some local cache on the card, maybe 256MB |
| [08:23:14] | wagnerrp: | and then run everything else through system memory |
| [08:23:18] | Beirdo: | or 2GB |
| [08:23:19] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:24:26] | Beirdo: | why are you still up? |
| [08:24:27] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [08:24:35] | wagnerrp: | reinstalling |
| [08:24:40] | Beirdo: | you going insomniac on us? |
| [08:27:30] | wagnerrp: | crap... cut my wrist open scraping it against a sharp edge on a computer case |
| [08:27:39] | Beirdo: | oooh, I hate that |
| [08:28:50] | wagnerrp: | seems i need to turn the PSU on before the machine will boot |
| [08:29:01] | Beirdo: | imagine that |
| [08:30:02] | wagnerrp: | any idea what the key combo for my kvm switch might be? havent used it in years |
| [08:30:12] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [08:30:19] | wagnerrp: | its the numlock one |
| [08:30:28] | Beirdo: | the only KVM switches I've used are physical switch ones |
| [08:31:07] | clever: | the ones ive used sometimes go by alt or ctrl, and one also had mouse switching |
| [08:31:19] | clever: | left+right goes up one pc, right+left down a pc |
| [08:31:36] | wagnerrp: | ah, <numlock><minus>, <number>, <enter> |
| [08:31:48] | clever: | but it also cut the mouse's serial stream mid-sentence, often confusing the hell out of both computers |
| [08:32:03] | clever: | if i moved it even a single pixel when switching, it would screw up |
| [08:32:45] | Beirdo: | sounds pretty crappy to me |
| [08:33:08] | clever: | it wasnt fully parsing the ps2 stream, just cutting it off right at the switch |
| [08:33:15] | clever: | the one with usb mouse support worked better i beleive |
| [08:33:44] | clever: | it connected to the pc with 1 usb plug which acts like keyboard&mouse |
| [08:34:08] | clever: | the usb protocol sends the mouse events as a single well defined packet, so it cant get cut up as easily |
| [08:40:01] | wagnerrp: | eew... ps2? |
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| [08:44:12] | Beirdo: | PS/2 switches easier than USB :) |
| [08:44:26] | Beirdo: | but that's about all it's got going for it |
| [08:45:50] | wagnerrp: | sure, but those switches dont get HID support |
| [08:46:32] | Beirdo: | hehe, of course not |
| [08:46:41] | Beirdo: | oooh... 4% CPU when idle |
| [08:46:56] | Beirdo: | virtualbox and FreeBSD are good friends |
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| [09:04:39] | Beirdo: | OK, bedtime |
| [09:20:42] | cromag: | is it possible to stop a recording ? |
| [09:24:49] | cromag: | i cant go to and watch the file, it's dleted. |
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| [09:29:09] | cromag: | nvm :D |
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| [11:21:31] | beatbreaker: | HI I'm trying to run mythbackend and keep getting this error 2010-09–05 21:18:14.389 MediaServer::HttpServer Create Error |
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| [11:23:30] | beatbreaker: | hello? |
| [11:23:41] | beatbreaker: | I've got this error message: http://pastebin.ca/1933247 |
| [11:30:27] | beatbreaker: | any help? |
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| [11:35:51] | tank-man: | does that error prevent you from doing anything? |
| [11:36:07] | beatbreaker: | i can't start mythbackend |
| [11:36:58] | tank-man: | was this backend working before? |
| [11:37:03] | beatbreaker: | yes |
| [11:37:59] | beatbreaker: | 100% with mythweb, and 3 myth frontends connected |
| [11:41:26] | tank-man: | i don't know what could be wrong. |
| [11:43:09] | beatbreaker: | I can see this in the log files now http://pastebin.ca/1933249 |
| [11:43:18] | beatbreaker: | why has this crap come up? |
| [11:44:05] | tank-man: | is the database on the same pc as the backend? |
| [11:46:09] | beatbreaker: | yes |
| [11:46:16] | beatbreaker: | ok i thikn the solution is to run Myth.find orphans.pl |
| [11:48:03] | tank-man: | from your log "2010-09–05 21:21:49.975 Failed to bind port 6543. Exiting." |
| [11:48:16] | tank-man: | maybe reboot or just wait a few min and try |
| [11:50:51] | beatbreaker: | nah that's not the problem |
| [11:51:03] | beatbreaker: | I can telnet to that port on localhost |
| [11:51:13] | beatbreaker: | and i've waited many minutes |
| [11:52:19] | tank-man: | if you can telnet to that port, then something besides mythbackend is listening on that port? |
| [11:52:35] | beatbreaker: | no |
| [11:53:25] | beatbreaker: | I did a google search for "/GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE" and I think i can see the issue, looks like thigs are fucked |
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| [12:14:36] | justinh: | language! |
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| [12:31:00] | justinh: | anyhow, pasting your own selections from a log is rarely the route to finding a solution properly. Let's see the whole log from when you try to start mythbackend |
| [12:31:33] | justinh: | let people here be the judge of what the problem is :-) |
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| [12:57:49] | stoth: | folks: I figured I'd take a fresh look at mythtv and the hvr2200/50 support today. Anyone willing to test? |
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| [14:07:07] | cleith: | hello |
| [14:07:33] | cleith: | anybody around today? |
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| [14:08:24] | ThisOneGuyToo: | Hi all can anyone help me with a udev/hdpvr question? |
| [14:24:31] | cleith: | later |
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| [14:33:03] | mrec: | is there any known problem with dvb-c and mythubuntu 10.04? |
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| [14:38:48] | joel_: | could anyone here help me with a mythweb related thing? |
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| [15:06:42] | wagnerrp: | WTF is wrong with people... wanting to use VDPAU to salvage a VIA system... |
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| [15:22:28] | Greek-Boy: | Hi. I'd like to clarify something with regard to MKV HD and MythTV internal player which seems to be working fine for me. Except that it doesn't support embedded subtitles. I extracted the subtitle into a .srt but I found that if the filename contains spaces it doesn't work. What is the best solution for me? To use mplayer? |
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| [15:25:17] | stoth: | wagnerrp: So I'm looking at mythtv and the hvr2200/50 analog support.... got time for a mythtv-setup question? |
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| [15:56:22] | ThisOneGuyToo: | hey all – does anyone know how to configure the hdpvr driver for two hdpvrs in one system? |
| [16:00:34] | stoth: | presumably /dev/vide0 and /dev/video1 |
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| [16:03:25] | ThisOneGuyToo: | stoth do you know if you have to do anything special? config options? multiple drivers? etc? |
| [16:04:00] | stoth: | don't you have to enter either /dev/video0 or /dev/video1 in the hdpvr setup screen? |
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| [16:04:54] | jpabq: | ThisOneGuyToo, you will probably have to use udev rules to ensure that they come up on at the same dev location reliably on boot-up. |
| [16:07:19] | ThisOneGuyToo: | jpabq: thanks! any other gotchas? |
| [16:07:46] | ThisOneGuyToo: | stoth: You do on the myth setup screens, I meant so that the os recognizes both of them |
| [16:08:11] | stoth: | ThisOneGuyToo: The os should show them both regardless |
| [16:08:11] | Greek-Boy: | Hi. I'd like to clarify something with regard to MKV HD and MythTV internal player which seems to be working fine for me. Except that it doesn't support embedded subtitles. I extracted the subtitle into a .srt but I found that if the filename contains spaces it doesn't work. What is the best solution for me? To use mplayer? |
| [16:08:15] | jpabq: | Nope. Works great. I have two, and I have seen others with as many as four in one system. |
| [16:08:54] | ThisOneGuyToo: | great – thanks all! |
| [16:09:35] | jpabq: | Greek-Boy, or git rid of the spaces? I do believe that work is being done to support embedded subtitles, but I don't know if it will make it into 0.24 or not. |
| [16:10:47] | jpabq: | stoth, sorry I don't have a hvr2200, so I can't help you. |
| [16:11:22] | stoth: | hi jpabq |
| [16:11:52] | jpabq: | Hi stoth! |
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| [16:57:21] | wagnerrp: | stoth: just got back from breakfast, still have questions? |
| [16:57:48] | stoth: | hi wagnerrp. thx |
| [16:58:15] | stoth: | wagnerrp: when mythtvsetup detects ivtv devices, what's the filter on that? I doesn't detect the hvr2250, but I can manually enter /dev/videoN |
| [16:58:23] | wagnerrp: | Greek-Boy: the ideal solution is to just to not use srt files at all |
| [16:58:28] | stoth: | I this a video control I'm just not responding to? |
| [16:58:39] | wagnerrp: | when you rip the movie, use the bitmapped subs |
| [16:58:54] | wagnerrp: | which are supported just fine embedded in mkvs |
| [16:59:19] | wagnerrp: | embedded text subs are supported in the upcoming 0.24 |
| [16:59:42] | wagnerrp: | im not entirely certain |
| [16:59:48] | wagnerrp: | i know there is /some/ filter on that |
| [16:59:58] | wagnerrp: | because it will only detect my two PVR-150 cards |
| [17:00:15] | wagnerrp: | but not my MT-1311 webcam on /dev/video0 |
| [17:01:35] | stoth: | hmm |
| [17:02:42] | wagnerrp: | !seen kth |
| [17:02:42] | MythLogBot: | kth was last seen 20 hours 34 minutes 58 seconds ago |
| [17:05:43] | stoth: | wagnerrp: K. 2250 working for analog and digital. Mode switching between the two might be tricky. Not sure how myth will handle that. |
| [17:06:31] | wagnerrp: | stoth: input groups |
| [17:06:40] | wagnerrp: | informs mythtv that the two inputs cannot be used at the same time |
| [17:06:46] | stoth: | ahh, great |
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| [17:08:51] | wagnerrp: | stoth: while youre around, something i was wondering about the 2250 |
| [17:09:03] | wagnerrp: | can you use the encoders at the same time as the digital tuners? |
| [17:09:27] | stoth: | no |
| [17:09:51] | wagnerrp: | thats a bummer... but not unexpected |
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| [17:11:24] | stoth: | I think I see why ivtv doesn't get detected. |
| [17:12:11] | stoth: | that also explains why the 1800 never got detected either |
| [17:12:41] | wagnerrp: | i think there were other issues beyond that with the 1800/1850 |
| [17:13:12] | stoth: | encoder cards just don't get probed. |
| [17:13:27] | stoth: | only raw analog cards |
| [17:14:00] | stoth: | ok, lemme try input groups |
| [17:14:36] | kormoc: | stoth, it's not that simple, as pvr 150/250/350/500 cards are encoder cards and do get probed |
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| [17:15:03] | stoth: | odd that the GetV4LUtil func only problems the _V4L cards, not the _MPEG cards |
| [17:15:16] | stoth: | problems/probes |
| [17:16:56] | stoth: | perhaps the 150 also offer raw video? (I don't recall) |
| [17:17:14] | kormoc: | that could be |
| [17:17:37] | kormoc: | afaik, they did not, but I never really looked into it |
| [17:17:59] | wagnerrp: | yes, the IVTV cards offer raw framegrabber access |
| [17:18:09] | wagnerrp: | video24+n i believe |
| [17:19:12] | stoth: | ahh. |
| [17:19:34] | stoth: | So for basic encoders your hosed in terms of auto detection. |
| [17:21:28] | stoth: | Hm.m. If I create a group called CardA and put video0 and frontend0 into group CardA, should mythtv close frontend0 before using video0? |
| [17:21:35] | stoth: | doesn't appear to. |
| [17:21:53] | wagnerrp: | you may need to check the setting to release the card when not in use |
| [17:22:02] | wagnerrp: | by default, it leaves it open to lock the card |
| [17:22:09] | stoth: | k |
| [17:25:43] | BLZbubba: | ok i set up a new front end; and i can play recordings just fine. however, if i try to pause or skip it dies with: RemoteEncoder::SendReceiveStringList(): Response too short |
| [17:26:24] | BLZbubba: | is there an obvious cause of this kind of problem? maybe a client/server protocol mismatch even? |
| [17:29:43] | BLZbubba: | google suggests that i may need to do some manual sql |
| [17:29:49] | BLZbubba: | to change some settings |
| [17:29:55] | wagnerrp: | you dont want to be doing manual sql |
| [17:30:08] | wagnerrp: | anything that tells you that you need to do that is almost certainly wrong |
| [17:30:45] | BLZbubba: | well it suggested that i should change this value: BackendServerIP | 127.0.0.1 |
| [17:31:03] | BLZbubba: | to the public ip |
| [17:31:08] | wagnerrp: | only if you cannot connect at all |
| [17:31:16] | wagnerrp: | and even then, you should not be setting that value manually |
| [17:31:18] | BLZbubba: | hmm ok |
| [17:31:39] | BLZbubba: | so this is bad advice: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2010-May/288624.html ? |
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| [17:32:24] | wagnerrp: | if it tells you to go into mysql and set that value manually, yes |
| [17:33:16] | Schabo: | Maybe someone here can help me, I can't get DTS or DD to passthrough to my amp, I only get Stereo sound as it seems... Running Ubuntu 10.04 + MythTV |
| [17:33:25] | BLZbubba: | it says that he was able to play but couldn't skip until he changed the backend server IP to the public ip |
| [17:33:33] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [17:35:25] | BLZbubba: | is there an easy way to change that without interrupting the backend process? |
| [17:36:00] | wagnerrp: | theres no point, as it does not take effect until you restart the backend process |
| [17:36:11] | wagnerrp: | and there is nothing preventing you from running mythtv-setup without leaving the backend running |
| [17:37:17] | BLZbubba: | if i want my frontend to just play back what is on the main server; do i have to run a local backend process? it is a little weird that i had to load mythbackend just to get mythtv-setup |
| [17:37:55] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv-setupis for configuring backend processes like tuners/listings sources and such... of course they are related :) |
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| [17:38:40] | BLZbubba: | right but i just wanted to point my frontend to the existing backend. |
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| [17:39:19] | GreyFoxx: | if you want your FE to playback content from the backend then either the content on the backend must be NFS mounted to the FE or you can access it over storage groups assuming it's setup that way on your backend |
| [17:39:52] | GreyFoxx: | BLZ: I don't see why you would need to do that unless the master backend IP wasn't set to one that was reachable vy the frontend |
| [17:39:52] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup is intended to run on the machine running your frontend |
| [17:40:23] | BLZbubba: | GreyFoxx: it plays back just fine. but if i try to pause or skip it bombs out |
| [17:40:43] | GreyFoxx: | thn you sir need to consult your frontend logs |
| [17:40:59] | GreyFoxx: | how are you getting the content to the FE? nfs/samba/storage groups ? |
| [17:41:19] | BLZbubba: | RemoteEncoder::SendReceiveStringList(): Response too short / Error: GetFramesWritten() — network error |
| [17:42:03] | BLZbubba: | whatever the default is; must be a storage group since this partition isn't sharable |
| [17:42:21] | wagnerrp: | recordings are always using storage groups |
| [17:42:27] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, so you are talking about livetv/recordings? sorry I was thinking of mythvideo, so yes storage groups |
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| [17:43:28] | dustybin: | GreyFoxx: did you edit your rc.d backend script to make mythtv run as mythtv user on slackware? |
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| [17:43:56] | GreyFoxx: | dusty: no, I run it as root. But it would be trivial to change the script to run as another user |
| [17:44:04] | dustybin: | eeek why root? |
| [17:44:24] | GreyFoxx: | because I didn't care to change permissions on the devices for non root users |
| [17:44:25] | dustybin: | i changed mine, it wasnt too difficult. just added --user mythtv to the rc.d script and added mythtv to video group |
| [17:45:23] | BLZbubba: | server is i386, new frontend is x86_64. maybe they used an int in the protocol somewhere |
| [17:45:38] | dustybin: | /usr/bin/mythbackend --user mythtv -l /var/log/mythbackend.log -v important,general -p /var/run/mythbackend.pid -d fi |
| [17:46:06] | kormoc: | BLZbubba, protocol isn't typed at all |
| [17:46:18] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think there was a --user when I wrote my init scripts :) |
| [17:46:56] | dustybin: | GreyFoxx: mine is this modified: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Slackware_init_mythbackend |
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| [17:47:31] | GreyFoxx: | Mine is similar to that |
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| [17:51:47] | ThisOtherGuy: | hey all – I just svn up'd and now I get this on the upcomming page of mythweb – any ideas? http://pastebin.com/bjTWeLVb |
| [17:52:59] | kormoc: | My idea is I broke it last night |
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| [17:54:59] | kormoc: | ThisOtherGuy, svn up |
| [17:55:08] | ThisOtherGuy: | k – thanks! |
| [17:56:02] | ThisOtherGuy: | looks good – thanks for the quick turnaround :-) |
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| [17:57:01] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i should probably update mythweb too |
| [17:57:05] | wagnerrp: | i noticed you had been busy |
| [18:01:03] | dustybin: | is the upgrade from 23 to 23.1 smooth? or are there big database schema changes etc? |
| [18:01:16] | wagnerrp: | no schema changes, only protocol |
| [18:01:29] | dustybin: | what will that mean? |
| [18:01:44] | wagnerrp: | means you can only run all 0.23.0 or all 0.23.1 |
| [18:01:58] | dustybin: | thats ok, i will upgrade all boxes on the network at the same time |
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| [18:05:52] | dustybin: | /exec heyu on A2 <-- i just did that directly from irssi and my light came on :D |
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| [18:13:59] | ThisOtherGuy: | kormoc: I also see this on the recorded screen: http://pastebin.com/Y4siuQgt |
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| [18:21:49] | kormoc: | ThisOtherGuy, svn up |
| [18:21:54] | ThisOtherGuy: | k |
| [18:22:29] | ThisOtherGuy: | 2 for 2 – thanks! |
| [18:23:02] | Beirdo: | hehe, beautiful |
| [18:23:32] | Beirdo: | so LIRC and Joystick Menu locking have been apparently borked for a while in myth_system |
| [18:23:49] | Beirdo: | and now I get the fun of thinking how to fix it nicely :) |
| [18:25:35] | Beirdo: | before I restructured the code, the locks weren't ever compiled in... now that they are, they don't work due to scoping |
| [18:25:38] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [18:40:00] | Azelphur: | curiosity question, has anyone ever tried a "no frontend" setup? One big back end in the basement with a few nvidia cards in it, and long cables/wireless transmitters to the TV's? so multiple X screens and multiple mythfrontends? :) |
| [18:40:49] | kormoc: | some certainly have |
| [18:40:52] | wagnerrp: | many people have tried, many people have given up, few have succeeded |
| [18:40:59] | kormoc: | sphery keeps a wall between his box and the tv |
| [18:41:07] | Azelphur: | sounds like a challenge |
| [18:41:21] | wagnerrp: | running multiple x servers isnt difficult |
| [18:41:29] | wagnerrp: | it just requires multiple video cards |
| [18:41:34] | Azelphur: | yea, I know everything about multiple X servers |
| [18:41:44] | wagnerrp: | and if you get the proper video cards with HDMI audio, you dont need multiple sound cards |
| [18:41:44] | iamlindoro: | That's some claim |
| [18:41:49] | Azelphur: | I am the go to guy for multi monitor questions, I run a quad screen set up on my desk :) |
| [18:42:07] | sphery: | wall ftw! |
| [18:42:07] | Azelphur: | the only thing I'm worried about would be lirc really |
| [18:42:10] | wagnerrp: | but getting multiple LIRC receivers to work independently is a PITA |
| [18:42:17] | Azelphur: | yea. |
| [18:43:22] | kormoc: | Azelphur, so you can explain to me why opengl buffers are only partial transferred between screens when sharing the same main memory segment with multiple gpus? |
| [18:44:01] | wagnerrp: | setting up multiple screens is not difficult |
| [18:44:03] | Azelphur: | nope, the everything wasn't intended to be taken literally :p |
| [18:44:08] | wagnerrp: | but you dont want multiple screens |
| [18:44:15] | wagnerrp: | you need independent x servers on independent cards |
| [18:44:42] | wagnerrp: | with the time youre going to spend getting all of this working |
| [18:44:49] | wagnerrp: | youre better off just buying multiple frontends |
| [18:45:02] | Azelphur: | why not separate? |
| [18:45:13] | Azelphur: | or multiple. |
| [18:45:18] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [18:45:50] | Azelphur: | why run independent x servers instead of multiple screens? |
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| [18:46:00] | wagnerrp: | video acceleration |
| [18:46:12] | kormoc: | Azelphur, shared inputs? |
| [18:46:19] | wagnerrp: | VDPAU and Xv both limit you to a single output |
| [18:46:20] | Azelphur: | doesn't that work if you keep separate X screens, even with no xinerama? |
| [18:46:22] | kormoc: | you don't want the inputs to be shared among all of them |
| [18:46:23] | wagnerrp: | opengl can be used for more |
| [18:46:29] | Azelphur: | I see |
| [18:46:31] | wagnerrp: | but you still have to deal with shared mouse/keyboard |
| [18:46:58] | Azelphur: | indeed |
| [18:47:29] | wagnerrp: | i almost wonder if it would be easier to go with a cheap PDA and network control |
| [18:47:33] | wagnerrp: | than to struggle with LIRC |
| [18:47:54] | Azelphur: | wagnerrp: I'm also interested in that as an idea, I spent a while researching into it too |
| [18:48:03] | Azelphur: | but I never found a PDA I liked to do the job |
| [18:48:03] | tank-man: | pdas have IR too, do both :) |
| [18:48:09] | Azelphur: | there are some cheap android tablets on ebay. |
| [18:48:13] | Azelphur: | tank-man: lol |
| [18:49:34] | tank-man: | Azelphur, i am curious what video cards you are using |
| [18:49:52] | Azelphur: | in my quad screen PC? 8800GT x2 |
| [18:51:34] | tank-man: | i have tried 4 screens with a onboard video card and a pcix (?) one, but it seems i need two similar cards to get opengl to work when using 4 screens |
| [18:52:06] | Azelphur: | yea, opengl/composite is a bit of a nightmare unless your on a dual head card. |
| [18:55:08] | Twiggy2cents: | Hey I have an error if I start mythbackend in the terminal. I made a paste bin of it, Can you make sense of it? |
| [18:55:23] | wagnerrp: | wont know until you do so |
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| [19:05:20] | kormoc: | Twiggy2cents, I went to a random pastebin post figuring that would be yours and the answer to 2+2= is indeed 4 |
| [19:05:49] | Beirdo: | hhhehe |
| [19:10:50] | Twiggy2cents: | oops |
| [19:10:50] | Twiggy2cents: | ! |
| [19:10:56] | Twiggy2cents: | http://pastebin.com/aQgDghvv |
| [19:11:20] | tank-man: | one line pastebin :) |
| [19:11:25] | tank-man: | 2 lines |
| [19:12:05] | Twiggy2cents: | I didnt want to post it in the chan though |
| [19:12:19] | tank-man: | but what are the lines above those lines |
| [19:12:24] | Twiggy2cents: | That shows up multiple times, but the system works fine. What frontend is it looking for |
| [19:12:26] | Twiggy2cents: | Hold on |
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| [19:13:01] | tank-man: | by 'system works' you mean watching livetv and recordings? |
| [19:13:24] | Twiggy2cents: | yes |
| [19:13:39] | Twiggy2cents: | http://pastebin.com/uTNgj0Mt |
| [19:13:56] | Twiggy2cents: | there is the output of mythbackend through the terminal |
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| [19:14:50] | tank-man: | what brought your attention to this error line in your log if everything works fine? |
| [19:15:08] | Twiggy2cents: | 2nd question. When I add a new drive and define it in the storage directories in the mythbackend setup, do I need to add it to the db? |
| [19:15:20] | Twiggy2cents: | I just notice it when I start the backend through the term |
| [19:15:21] | wagnerrp: | add it to the db? |
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| [19:15:37] | Twiggy2cents: | do I need to add it to the database? |
| [19:15:42] | Beirdo: | ummm, what do you think mythtv-setup is doing with it? |
| [19:16:07] | Twiggy2cents: | I know I changed the livetv to a diff location, and I lost the ability to watch tv. I changed it back and it worked |
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| [19:16:21] | Twiggy2cents: | It doesnt recognize the second directory on the mythtv status page |
| [19:16:31] | wagnerrp: | have you restarted the backend? |
| [19:16:34] | Beirdo: | did you restart the backend? |
| [19:16:37] | Twiggy2cents: | yes |
| [19:16:44] | Beirdo: | dangit, wagnerrp you are too fast for me |
| [19:17:27] | wagnerrp: | is the disk actually mounted? |
| [19:17:41] | Twiggy2cents: | yes |
| [19:17:48] | ** Beirdo mounts the disk ** | |
| [19:18:48] | Twiggy2cents: | I orginally change the livetv location to my disk that the recordings save on(which is established.) That didnt work. Then I also added a second drive and added it to the storage group default for the recordings and it doenst recognize it |
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| [20:13:02] | andreax1: | Anyone got an idea, why mythfrontend isnt disabling dpms and xscreensaver anymore when i watch a show ? |
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| [20:51:01] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, has anyone reported any DVD iso (from local storage) problems in trunk recently? |
| [20:52:27] | wagnerrp: | gbee was complaining about something he was noticing |
| [20:52:29] | wagnerrp: | what in particular? |
| [20:53:15] | GreyFoxx: | I've got one Disc that wouldn't play. New one I've just opened. at first I tried ripping it to an ISO which still failed ... yet I can play the ISO without any problem using VLC on my desktop |
| [20:54:18] | GreyFoxx: | and of course I just happened to update my svn checkout just before this so I wasn't sure if it was related :) |
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| [20:59:19] | GreyFoxx: | Weird, mythtv and mplayer on my FE both fail to read it as if it's corrupt. BUT handbrake+vlc on my desktop can play it just fine via an nfs share from the FE |
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| [21:01:18] | wagnerrp: | handbrake+vlc? |
| [21:01:35] | GreyFoxx: | I tried both apps seperately on my desktop and they can read the ISO |
| [21:01:44] | GreyFoxx: | but mythtv as well as mplayer on my FE fail miserably :) |
| [21:01:45] | wagnerrp: | vlc wont play it directly, you have to somehow route it through handbrake? |
| [21:02:06] | GreyFoxx: | No, I just meant I tried both individually and they both work |
| [21:04:03] | iamlindoro: | Ugh, this seeking regression is brutal |
| [21:04:16] | iamlindoro: | 5 minutes to do two ten minute skips |
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| [21:11:09] | Beirdo: | yummy food |
| [21:11:29] | kormoc: | Beirdo, have another MFDB patch for ya |
| [21:11:35] | kormoc: | once my test run finishes |
| [21:12:03] | Beirdo: | K |
| [21:12:29] | Beirdo: | I'll get that mythweather patch into my builds, then I should be ready for it |
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| [21:16:17] | justinh: | 5 mins to seek 2x 10 minutes? That'll lern ya for using a Via backend |
| [21:16:40] | iamlindoro: | heh... about 100X that power |
| [21:16:41] | kormoc: | Beirdo, http://www.kormoc.com/websvn/wsvn/Portage%20E . . . urce-2.patch |
| [21:16:44] | iamlindoro: | Quads on both sides |
| [21:16:59] | justinh: | seriously though.. that *does* seem very nasty indeedy |
| [21:17:14] | kormoc: | shoves me down from ~40 seconds to 26 seconds to clear source data |
| [21:17:25] | kormoc: | (and unpatched 1:20) |
| [21:17:37] | kormoc: | so I'm hoping sub-minute times for you |
| [21:17:50] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | that's a replacement, or an add-on patch? |
| [21:18:15] | kormoc: | replacement |
| [21:18:26] | Beirdo: | K. I'll test it shortly |
| [21:25:39] | Beirdo: | once this other compile finishes, etc. |
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| [21:29:40] | Beirdo: | OK. ready to go |
| [21:30:39] | Beirdo: | started. |
| [21:36:44] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:32:35.715 sourceid 3 has lineup type: LocalBroadcast |
| [21:36:44] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:36:27.712 Grab complete. Actual data from Sat Sep 4 00:00:00 2010 to Mon Sep 20 23:59:59 2010 (UTC) |
| [21:36:56] | Beirdo: | there's a nice delay (unrelated to what yer tweaking |
| [21:37:16] | Beirdo: | clearing source 1 |
| [21:37:52] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:36:37.552 Clearing from Fri Sep 3 17:00:00 2010 to Mon Sep 20 16:59:59 2010 (localtime) |
| [21:37:56] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:37:43.785 Data for source cleared. |
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| [21:38:13] | kormoc: | 1:10 hrm |
| [21:38:22] | Beirdo: | just over 1:00, but much better than the original 2:30 :) |
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| [21:39:27] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:37:43.785 Updating programs. |
| [21:39:27] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:39:17.412 Program table update complete. |
| [21:40:06] | Beirdo: | now for source 2 |
| [21:40:29] | Baylink: | QUERY: I'm in mid-0.23.1 setup, having imported my database from 0.21 and let it upgrade the schema... but I'm now trying to put my 4 media directories in my Default storage group, and it doesn't seem to want to let me have more than one: when I say "Add another", I get a dialog with the first one's dirname, and when I change it, that's then all that's there. What am I doing wrong? |
| [21:40:32] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:39:29.898 Clearing from Fri Sep 3 17:00:00 2010 to Mon Sep 20 16:59:59 2010 (localtime) |
| [21:40:35] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:40:23.596 Data for source cleared. |
| [21:41:24] | Beirdo: | Baylink: long time no see |
| [21:41:31] | kormoc: | :54ish |
| [21:41:40] | kormoc: | so you're pretty much at 2 minutes from 4 |
| [21:41:51] | Beirdo: | yeah, seems that way |
| [21:41:59] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:40:23.596 Updating programs. |
| [21:41:59] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:41:50.273 Program table update complete. |
| [21:42:09] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:41:56.455 Clearing from Fri Sep 3 17:00:00 2010 to Mon Sep 20 16:59:59 2010 (localtime) |
| [21:42:12] | Beirdo: | 2010-09–05 14:42:02.830 Data for source cleared. |
| [21:42:16] | Baylink: | Hey, Beirdo |
| [21:42:17] | Beirdo: | source 3 is fast as always |
| [21:42:22] | Beirdo: | and 11s to update it |
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| [21:43:18] | Beirdo: | Baylink: not sure what could be the issue there |
| [21:44:29] | Beirdo: | real 13m18.608s |
| [21:44:29] | Beirdo: | user 1m41.734s |
| [21:44:29] | Beirdo: | sys 0m39.852s |
| [21:45:05] | Baylink: | Weird |
| [21:45:24] | Beirdo: | you try exiting out of setup and entering again? |
| [21:45:32] | Beirdo: | not sure if that would even do anything. |
| [21:46:45] | Baylink: | I did, yes. |
| [21:47:05] | Baylink: | I should expect the entry field to be empty when I try to add an additional directory, right? |
| [21:47:18] | kormoc: | yes |
| [21:47:30] | Baylink: | How odd that it's not. |
| [21:47:59] | Beirdo: | unless it's as silly as maybe you had the wrong item highlighted and in fact edited? |
| [21:48:04] | Baylink: | One folo question: the manual seems to say that Myth will search all configured storage directories for a track if it's not where it expects. |
| [21:48:12] | Beirdo: | I know I can get cofused at times :) |
| [21:48:17] | Baylink: | That's possible, Beirdo; I'll try again. |
| [21:48:20] | Beirdo: | confused |
| [21:48:29] | ** Beirdo glares at the keyboard ** | |
| [21:49:00] | Baylink: | Given the searchy behavior, and that I have "fake" storage directories with symlinks right now, am I correct in thinking I can just hide those symlinks off in some other directory and it will Do The Right Thing? |
| [21:49:17] | Baylink: | (assuming I can get it to accept multiple directories in the first place) |
| [21:49:53] | Baylink: | Aha! |
| [21:50:29] | Baylink: | In Mythsetup, in top level picklists, *nothing* is initially selected; there's a UI design problem there; I was *not* picking Add. |
| [21:50:45] | Beirdo: | ahhh. that would do it |
| [21:51:20] | Baylink: | Yep; that fixed it. Any opinions on the symlink thing? |
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| [21:51:56] | kormoc: | I'd say ditch them, as it should just work (tm)(r) |
| [21:51:57] | Beirdo: | not sure to be honest, but I'd expect it should find the programs, etc fine once you have the directories in |
| [21:52:18] | Beirdo: | I didn't transition, I reinstalled from scratch, so I'm not sure |
| [21:52:41] | Baylink: | Well, I *used* to have only the main directory, and we move-symlinked stuff off to other directories to make room. now, those other directories will be "live". |
| [21:53:02] | Baylink: | I gotta keep them for backout, kormoc; I'll move them out to a tempdir. |
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| [21:57:45] | Baylink: | The rpm install over SuSE 11.3 and the config were easy as *pie*. Very happy so far. |
| [21:58:32] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [22:00:01] | Baylink: | And now, off to move my symlinks and see if it finds my shows. |
| [22:00:12] | Beirdo: | good luck |
| [22:00:43] | ** Beirdo compiles again, and goes off to apply all of kormoc's fun mythweb changes to his setup ** | |
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| [22:01:34] | Baylink: | tnx. |
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| [22:17:53] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [22:17:56] | Beirdo: | ARGH |
| [22:18:10] | Beirdo: | how did this just now break? |
| [22:20:14] | Beirdo: | OK then |
| [22:20:22] | ** Beirdo goes off to fix mythweather bugs ** | |
| [22:24:56] | wagnerrp: | so is baylink back long term? or is he just in here during an upgrade? |
| [22:25:07] | Beirdo: | dunno :) |
| [22:29:36] | Beirdo: | blargh! |
| [22:34:24] | Beirdo: | really shows how many people are using mythweather |
| [22:34:59] | wagnerrp: | sphery: flash player now requires that you install the adobe download manager plugin |
| [22:35:12] | wagnerrp: | there is no direct-download offered |
| [22:35:30] | wagnerrp: | you have to be authorized as a redistributer to get one |
| [22:36:12] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
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| [22:47:08] | mofu: | having issues with "NO DATA" in the listings for a couple channels that moved |
| [22:47:31] | mofu: | have xmltv id's that have been checked against Schedules Direct |
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| [23:10:34] | mofu: | anyone online using WOW-Detroit?? |
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| [23:21:55] | wasadigi: | how do you restore myth to default settings? I jacked up some settings in setup and can't get it back to install condition again. |
| [23:22:26] | [R]: | wipe out the db |
| [23:22:30] | [R]: | and reinstall the deafult schema |
| [23:23:09] | wasadigi: | ok, do i just wipe the db through the command line? |
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| [23:33:03] | Baylink: | Heelllpp! :-) I have an obi-two error in the chanids between my channel table and my program table; WTVT -13 is chanid 1013, but the program table has its programs listed with chanid 1011. Huh? Don't both tables populate from SchedulesDirect? |
| [23:33:31] | Beirdo: | chanid is irrelevant |
| [23:33:36] | Baylink: | Um, huh? |
| [23:33:44] | Baylink: | It's a primary key, is it not? |
| [23:33:45] | Beirdo: | it's only internal to myth |
| [23:34:07] | Beirdo: | if you want to check something, make sure that it will be tuning the right channel |
| [23:34:50] | Baylink: | If I tune channel with browse, I *get* channel 13, but it tells me it's channel 15, and that's what the program guide shows data for on that row. |
| [23:35:01] | Baylink: | "If i tune channel 13 with browse" |
| [23:35:11] | [R]: | sounds like you did screwy stuff with your channel scans and alreayd had guide data |
| [23:35:15] | [R]: | try running mythfilldatabase |
| [23:35:20] | Baylink: | I have; twice. |
| [23:35:23] | Baylink: | Is there a flush? |
| [23:35:28] | Beirdo: | that is odd for sure |
| [23:35:31] | [R]: | you can truncate the program table |
| [23:35:44] | Baylink: | This is likely secondary to my having picked up the old database and upgraded it. |
| [23:35:59] | Baylink: | And then re-run fill? |
| [23:36:10] | [R]: | well you could just not have guide data... |
| [23:37:01] | Baylink: | I have guide data, and it's valid, it just shows up on the wrong channel lines. |
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| [23:37:28] | [R]: | sounds like its not valid then |
| [23:37:35] | Baylink: | I'm just trying to figure out which column in the database to restripe, plus or minus 2, and whether it will break again. |
| [23:38:01] | [R]: | just truncate it |
| [23:38:03] | [R]: | and refill |
| [23:38:06] | Baylink: | program, then? |
| [23:38:15] | [R]: | [04:35:31] [R] you can truncate the program table |
| [23:38:36] | Baylink: | Right. I know how to drop it, do I just do 'delete from program' to truncate it? |
| [23:38:51] | wagnerrp: | truncate table program; |
| [23:38:55] | Baylink: | Ah. |
| [23:38:56] | Baylink: | Thanks. |
| [23:38:57] | wagnerrp: | much more efficient |
| [23:39:05] | wagnerrp: | truncate just dumps it |
| [23:39:12] | wagnerrp: | delete fron deletes each line individually |
| [23:39:27] | Baylink: | Right. |
| [23:39:42] | Baylink: | Truncate does the right thing about the indexes, too, right? |
| [23:40:10] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [23:40:29] | Baylink: | It will not drop any necessary indexes that exist against the table? |
| [23:40:41] | wagnerrp: | it will dump all data, structure remains |
| [23:40:45] | Baylink: | Right; thanks. |
| [23:41:13] | Baylink: | Though the "0 rows affected" prompt is a bit confusing. Yeah, that's fast. Thanks. |
| [23:43:50] | Baylink: | Yeah; it looks like it's pulling it in properly now; chanid 1011 is in fact channel 11, WFTS-28 (it's a cable thing :-) |
| [23:43:51] | Baylink: | Thanks. |
| [23:55:27] | nightwalk (nightwalk!~nightwalk@daimon.vixel.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:57:13] | nightwalk: | Anyone have any thoughts about (or better, experience with) this board? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It . . . rollFullInfo |
| [23:57:41] | nightwalk: | ZOTAC GF8200-C-E AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 8200 Mini ITX AMD Motherboard |
| [23:58:03] | wagnerrp: | decent enough, no HDMI though |
| [23:59:17] | nightwalk: | There were some bad reviews about USB support, so I guess I was mainly curious whether that's a common issue or not |
| [23:59:37] | nightwalk: | Being as I'm probably going to be using a usb ir dongle, and all |
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