| Thursday, August 19th, 2010, 00:03 UTC | ||
| [00:03:53] | kevink: | I guess I could stop ripping to iso-- it was just a habit from when some files still didn't work in Linux, so I could mount them in Win. Just curious if BD iso playback was planned. If not, I'll probably start ripping to directories instead of isos. |
| [00:04:43] | kormoc: | sure it's planned to be added someday when someone finds the time/want to do it |
| [00:05:04] | kormoc: | and that someone could be you :) |
| [00:05:05] | iamlindoro: | not planned at the moment, at least not personally |
| [00:05:15] | iamlindoro: | aspire to have it at some point but it's not really on my horizon just yet |
| [00:05:26] | iamlindoro: | Too many basic functionalities to implement first |
| [00:06:27] | kevink: | i can understand it would be low-priority. you guys are doing great work! Thanks to you I can't remember the last time I ran PowerDVD (shudder). |
| [00:07:17] | iamlindoro: | thanks, it's been a fun project so far, and has come a loooooong way in a short time |
| [00:08:18] | kevink: | kormoc: maybe it could! but I want to look into http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8650 first. It's driving me crazy. |
| [00:11:54] | kevink: | Mythfrontend is always restarting, and "Shutdown locked by user" appears seemingly at random. |
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| [00:13:28] | kevink: | I found that MythshutdownLock has a value >1 when it happens, which shouldn't happen should it? |
| [00:15:26] | kevink: | "when it happens" meaning the "shutdown locked by user" |
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| [00:47:30] | kevink: | I'll look into it some more... |
| [00:57:54] | Beirdo: | OK, have the TV, ethernet switch, antenna and HD Homerun |
| [00:58:04] | Beirdo: | I'll have no lack of things to do tonight |
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| [02:17:02] | bcgrown: | Anyone here use MPD? I have all the permissions set up and still can't get it to find my music |
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| [02:22:08] | [R]: | bcgrown: mpd? |
| [02:22:46] | bcgrown: | [R]: music player daemon |
| [02:23:22] | [R]: | what does that have to do with myth? |
| [02:24:05] | bcgrown: | [R]: there's a good chance that someone uses both |
| [02:24:11] | [R]: | right... but this isn't #randomcrap |
| [02:24:14] | [R]: | this is #mythtv-users |
| [02:24:20] | [R]: | emphasis on mythtv |
| [02:24:35] | bcgrown: | but #randomcrap is empty... |
| [02:24:52] | [R]: | that sucks |
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| [02:30:19] | bcgrown: | [R]: there was at some point an mpd client plugin of sorts for mythtv |
| [02:30:32] | [R]: | some point != current |
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| [02:34:37] | Beirdo: | Time to try netflix streaming |
| [02:35:05] | [R]: | Beirdo: you got it? |
| [02:35:09] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [02:35:25] | [R]: | is it as glorious as you imaginged? |
| [02:35:27] | [R]: | does it do upnp |
| [02:35:27] | Beirdo: | it arrived at 9:45 this morning when they finally decided to put it on a plane |
| [02:35:28] | [R]: | ? |
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| [02:36:27] | Beirdo: | well, it hung around teh LA area for quite some time |
| [02:42:18] | Beirdo: | now if I could figure out how to setup this crappy wireless box |
| [02:42:46] | Beirdo: | and I need yet another stupid power bar :) |
| [02:43:27] | Beirdo: | haven't looked for upnp yet |
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| [02:44:52] | wagnerrp: | heh, ive got four of them velcro'd up around my desk |
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| [02:45:17] | Beirdo: | likewise by my entertainment stuff in the living room |
| [02:45:51] | [R]: | ah, that tucker max |
| [02:45:53] | [R]: | 9:17: I am on my 8th beer of the morning, and am already starting to |
| [02:45:53] | [R]: | look for places I can vomit. |
| [02:47:34] | Beirdo: | hooked up the crappy old antenna for some OTA, put the new antenna on the HD Homerun (also new) |
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| [03:15:03] | wagnerrp: | wouldnt NFS corrupting files be a /very/ bad thing? |
| [03:15:09] | wagnerrp: | i mean doesnt it do checksumming? |
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| [03:27:11] | Beirdo: | I thought so |
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| [03:27:29] | wagnerrp: | either way, no take-backes |
| [03:27:43] | wagnerrp: | he already said he had release groups in the title |
| [03:28:01] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:28:06] | wagnerrp: | cant claim theyre his own personal rips, and he did CRCs for file corruption checks |
| [03:28:26] | Beirdo: | sure he can... but we won't believe his crap :) |
| [03:28:40] | Beirdo: | unless he's running the release group, of course :) |
| [03:28:42] | Beirdo: | Arrrr. |
| [03:28:54] | bcgrown: | would this be a bad time to ask how to remove Apple DRM? ;) |
| [03:29:41] | Beirdo: | you take an apple corer to it, of course |
| [03:30:28] | bcgrown: | eNeRGi: Couldn't find package apple-corer |
| [03:30:37] | bcgrown: | woops, damn autocomplete |
| [03:30:53] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:36:52] | bcgrown: | seriously though, is there a simple way to do it? |
| [03:37:04] | Beirdo: | ask Apple |
| [03:37:18] | bcgrown: | ... |
| [03:37:20] | Beirdo: | we don't condone or promote such goings on |
| [03:37:48] | bcgrown: | Beirdo: you know the US supreme court has ruled such goings on legal, right? |
| [03:38:15] | Beirdo: | if you say so |
| [03:38:17] | bcgrown: | er, appeals court |
| [03:38:18] | Beirdo: | don't care. |
| [03:38:45] | bcgrown: | http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2010/07/ . . . is-legal.ars |
| [03:39:13] | Beirdo: | have fun with your DMCA trial anyways |
| [03:39:23] | bcgrown: | i'm in Canada, i doubt that's going to happen |
| [03:39:44] | Beirdo: | you'll have something similar soon |
| [03:39:54] | bcgrown: | *shrug* don't have it now |
| [03:40:09] | Beirdo: | give Harper a few more months |
| [03:40:22] | bcgrown: | well then i really won't be able to ask, will i? |
| [03:41:20] | bcgrown: | (i really hope it doesn't happen though. can't stand Harper) |
| [03:41:33] | Beirdo: | could be worse |
| [03:41:38] | Beirdo: | could be Chretien |
| [03:41:51] | Beirdo: | or Dim Campbell |
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| [03:42:55] | Beirdo: | or... Stockwell Day. He woulda been a winner of a PM |
| [03:42:56] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [04:16:21] | Beirdo: | bleh |
| [04:16:41] | Beirdo: | well, netflix streaming workis nicely on the tv :) |
| [04:16:42] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [04:37:26] | jpabq: | Decided to do a fresh install of Fedora13 for my master backend. Now I cannot get mythweb to work. Don't seem to be getting any errors, but when I try to bring up the page in the browser, it just says "MythTV" twice in the upper lefthand corner, and the rest of the page is blank. If I look at the page source, it looks like it is truncated. |
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| [04:38:20] | Beirdo: | ummm, I remember seeing that before, but I forget how I fixed it |
| [04:38:39] | Beirdo: | maybe PHP max memory or timeouts? |
| [04:39:04] | jpabq: | I can try that. I would hope that it would generate some errors, but if it is, I am not looking in the right place. |
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| [04:40:08] | Beirdo: | I'm sure kormoc_afk would know the answer faster, my memory for such details is ratther bad |
| [04:41:11] | ** Beirdo grumbles ** | |
| [04:41:38] | Beirdo: | can't setup the fit-pc and try vaapi tonight... not enough plugins left :( |
| [04:41:47] | Beirdo: | need stupid power bars. |
| [04:42:36] | Beirdo: | and I should buy a disk for it sometime soon too |
| [04:45:22] | sphery: | So, it's official. I have an elite MythTV system (1337 recordings :) |
| [04:46:15] | sphery: | jpabq: that's due to incorrect DB setup/access/permissions – http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8158 (fixed in trunk [24922] and [24912] ) |
| [04:46:35] | sphery: | where "fixed" means you get the error page you're not seeing that says you need to fix your DB settings :) |
| [04:48:08] | jpabq: | sphery, hmmm. If I run mysql from the command line with the same credentials, it works. Or is there another setting I am missing? Also, I am running r25745 |
| [04:48:20] | sphery: | trunk that revision? |
| [04:48:27] | jpabq: | yes |
| [04:48:37] | sphery: | hmmm... should get a real error page, then |
| [04:48:41] | sphery: | did you check apache logs? |
| [04:49:00] | jpabq: | Yeah, I have checked every log I can find. None of them show any errors. |
| [04:49:41] | jpabq: | Myth is working. I can record and watch tv just fine. |
| [04:49:51] | sphery: | very strange |
| [04:50:18] | jpabq: | Just fighting with mythweb. I tried copying my mythweb.conf and /var/www/html/mythweb dirs from my Fedora11 install, and that did not help either. |
| [04:50:29] | sphery: | and you're sure the MythWeb apache config file is correct and you don't have something else messing it up (like a .htaccess)/ |
| [04:51:16] | jpabq: | I *think* so. I am not using any .htaccess files. mythweb.conf points to a htdigest password file. |
| [04:51:41] | jpabq: | and that is working --- it does prompt me to login, before I get the (mostly) blank page. |
| [04:51:43] | sphery: | and has proper db config? |
| [04:52:09] | jpabq: | looks okay to me |
| [04:52:57] | Beirdo: | I wish I could do mythtv-setup in parallel with recording :) |
| [04:52:59] | jpabq: | If I go in and add garbage to the end of mythweb.php, THEN I get a php syntax error. Otherwise I am not getting any errors. |
| [04:53:14] | sphery: | jpabq: and you have PHP 5.3? |
| [04:53:18] | sphery: | (or higher)? |
| [04:53:38] | jpabq: | php-5.3.2–2 |
| [04:53:48] | sphery: | hmmm... I'm completely out of ideas, then. |
| [04:54:01] | jpabq: | Me too. Thanks for trying! |
| [04:54:04] | Beirdo: | have to pull kormoc_afk away from doing real work :) |
| [04:54:21] | Beirdo: | I'm sure that's where he's afk to |
| [04:56:17] | jpabq: | ARRRGGGG!!! I did not have php-mysql installed! |
| [04:56:26] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [04:56:36] | jpabq: | Would have been nice if it had told me that. |
| [04:56:36] | Beirdo: | that one didn't even cross my mind |
| [04:57:05] | Beirdo: | something should whine bitterly about that when you try to install IMHO |
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| [05:01:45] | sphery: | jpabq: heh, that would make DB access not work |
| [05:01:59] | jpabq: | Yup. |
| [05:02:05] | sphery: | though unfortunately, that means that the "no error page" issue isn't fixed... :( |
| [05:02:43] | jpabq: | So, it should have complained that php could not talk to the DB? |
| [05:04:09] | sphery: | jpabq: oh, and FWIW, MythWeb actually supports mysqli, and only has a fallback to the "not supported, but better than nothing" mysql |
| [05:04:31] | sphery: | so if there's a choice between php-mysql and php-mysqli, choose the latter |
| [05:04:43] | jpabq: | Good to know. Thanks, |
| [05:04:44] | sphery: | and, yeah, should have gotten an error saying that |
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| [05:05:20] | sphery: | I haven't tested since kormoc_afk's fixes, but it's likely he fixed the 2 situations I described but didn't test the "no mysql support in php" situation |
| [05:05:40] | sphery: | sometimes figuring out how users can break things is the hardest part :) |
| [05:05:40] | wagnerrp: | wootoff is... still going |
| [05:05:53] | sphery: | you mean amazonoff? |
| [05:06:10] | wagnerrp: | paintshoppro is being sold for all of sphery's recordings |
| [05:06:27] | sphery: | heh |
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| [05:06:41] | sphery: | I could get back to watching the next episode, then I can get it down to 1336 |
| [05:07:50] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [05:08:00] | Beirdo: | you are such a pack-rat.... love it |
| [05:08:13] | sphery: | no, not a pack rat if you watch and delete |
| [05:08:18] | Beirdo: | sure you are |
| [05:08:29] | Beirdo: | you just clean the den out periodically |
| [05:08:29] | sphery: | I'm just a "records faster than he watches" rat |
| [05:08:40] | sphery: | heh, yeah |
| [05:09:13] | Beirdo: | come on, stop recording already! |
| [05:09:16] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:09:37] | Beirdo: | Castle is recording right now (I missed it the first time around, I know they are repeats) |
| [05:09:53] | Beirdo: | it's been recording solid for 5h now |
| [05:10:15] | sphery: | wow |
| [05:10:31] | Beirdo: | my shows are rather bunched :) |
| [05:10:35] | sphery: | I recorded "The Martian Chronicles" thinking it was the 2hr movie I saw as a kid. It's a 6hr movie. |
| [05:11:18] | sphery: | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080242/ -> Runtime: 360 min |
| [05:12:35] | sphery: | seems it was a miniseries |
| [05:13:09] | Beirdo: | oh wow |
| [05:14:20] | Beirdo: | ah MAN |
| [05:14:41] | ** Beirdo wishes he weren't stupid sometimes ** | |
| [05:15:12] | Beirdo: | trying to keep the new ffmpeg resync in my tree while markk and others are busy tweaking things... not fun |
| [05:15:18] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:15:31] | sphery: | heh |
| [05:15:59] | Beirdo: | janneg is wisely not rebasing his branch |
| [05:16:05] | Beirdo: | I wasn't so smart :) |
| [05:16:45] | Beirdo: | Failed to merge in the changes. |
| [05:16:47] | Beirdo: | yay |
| [05:16:48] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:17:20] | wagnerrp: | who was broadcasting a 6-hr 80s miniseries? |
| [05:17:22] | wagnerrp: | ThisTV? |
| [05:17:51] | Beirdo: | seems someone tweaked myth_utils.c |
| [05:17:55] | Beirdo: | which got deleted |
| [05:18:41] | sphery: | wagnerrp: ion |
| [05:18:49] | wagnerrp: | dont get ion... |
| [05:19:01] | sphery: | they have a lot of good movies |
| [05:19:19] | Beirdo: | but ION is Atom-related... I'm surprised you'll stoop to that level |
| [05:19:23] | sphery: | heh |
| [05:19:24] | wagnerrp: | This is the only new network i picked up with the digital switch |
| [05:19:39] | sphery: | yeah, I should call it "eye on" (like "eye on TV") |
| [05:20:11] | wagnerrp: | sleepaway camp 3: teenage wasteland |
| [05:20:18] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like a real winner |
| [05:20:19] | sphery: | which is the only new network you picked up? |
| [05:20:24] | wagnerrp: | THIS |
| [05:20:25] | Beirdo: | I don't know if I've recorded from ion yet |
| [05:20:25] | sphery: | (Who's on first?) |
| [05:20:37] | wagnerrp: | THIS is on 19th |
| [05:20:40] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: hehe, sounds... naughty |
| [05:20:43] | sphery: | heh |
| [05:21:45] | Beirdo: | Quiznos ads need to die a horrible death |
| [05:22:19] | wagnerrp: | indeed |
| [05:22:45] | Beirdo: | not many ads enrage me... those singing kitten ads do |
| [05:23:16] | sphery: | they must be new--I haven't seen signs of them in the old shows I'm watching :) |
| [05:23:27] | Beirdo: | enjoy :) |
| [05:23:31] | wagnerrp: | is lloyd bridges the Airplane guy? |
| [05:24:08] | Beirdo: | umm, I associate Leslie Nielsen with those, but... |
| [05:24:23] | sphery: | was he the ATC guy? |
| [05:24:51] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the guy who (didnt) quit every form of drug known to man that week |
| [05:24:56] | nutron: | rrough... I've been at work for 112 hours over my regular 40 hour weeks over the last 3 weeks... |
| [05:24:58] | sphery: | heh |
| [05:24:59] | Beirdo: | ooooh |
| [05:25:21] | nutron: | at least I get paid for 'em... but ... crap I need to see the sun... or moon at some point I believe. |
| [05:25:39] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:27:21] | Beirdo: | there, that gets rid of one branch |
| [05:27:29] | Beirdo: | 249 commits to go, sphery |
| [05:27:39] | Beirdo: | told ya we'd probably hit 26000 by release :) |
| [05:28:09] | sphery: | heh, I need to get busy to get my share of that done |
| [05:28:26] | Beirdo: | dooo eeet |
| [05:29:10] | wagnerrp: | ive got my share, maybe 70 or so this cycle |
| [05:29:26] | wagnerrp: | of course thats a few big feature changes |
| [05:29:40] | wagnerrp: | and a bunch of tiny little screw up fixes for those big changes |
| [05:29:44] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:29:51] | Beirdo: | job security commits |
| [05:30:09] | wagnerrp: | and of course fixes for the fixes |
| [05:30:36] | Beirdo: | half an hour to hdhomerun setup time :) |
| [05:32:25] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Beirdo, make sure to put it far from any wireless routers. |
| [05:32:33] | wagnerrp: | 'a test pilot and hist wife are trapped in limbo after his plane exceeds previously known speeds.' |
| [05:32:44] | wagnerrp: | was all old sci-fi that contrived? |
| [05:33:12] | Beirdo: | GadgetWisdomGuru: whatever for? |
| [05:33:16] | sphery: | I have the entire run of the original "The Outer Limits" that says, "Yes!" |
| [05:33:21] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Beirdo, it interferes. |
| [05:33:30] | wagnerrp: | heheh... thats an outer limits episode |
| [05:33:31] | Beirdo: | and it's a good 4 ft from the nearest wireless device |
| [05:33:48] | sphery: | wagnerrp: which episode? |
| [05:33:55] | wagnerrp: | the premonition |
| [05:34:20] | sphery: | ah, yeah... there it is |
| [05:34:30] | sphery: | I recorded the series, but haven't watched them, yet |
| [05:34:30] | wagnerrp: | why is a test pilot taking his wife on a test flight? |
| [05:34:40] | wagnerrp: | how can you exceed 'previously known speeds'? |
| [05:34:44] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Wagnerrp, my favorite sci-fi description is Attack of the Crab Monsters. |
| [05:34:49] | wagnerrp: | what does that even mean? |
| [05:35:23] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | "A scientific expedition is trapped on an island inhabited by atomically mutated giant crabs." |
| [05:35:27] | Beirdo: | bah HUMBUG |
| [05:35:40] | Beirdo: | I guess I need make distclean :) |
| [05:35:46] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | The crabs gain intelligence by absorbing the minds of their victims. |
| [05:35:52] | wagnerrp: | yes, because everyone knows nukular power causes bouts of giganticism |
| [05:36:39] | wagnerrp: | Mick Jagger stared in a movie? |
| [05:36:59] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [05:37:02] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Wagnerrp, it is a 1957 black and white classic I caught a few minutes of one night |
| [05:37:14] | Beirdo: | forget the name of it, but he's been in at least one |
| [05:37:21] | Beirdo: | and it was newer than 1957 |
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| [05:37:57] | wagnerrp: | different movie |
| [05:38:11] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I'm told Jack Nicholson's performance in Little Shop of Horrors is pretty frightening. |
| [05:38:30] | wagnerrp: | i assume youre not talking about the musical? |
| [05:38:32] | Beirdo: | Freejack |
| [05:38:36] | Beirdo: | duh. :) |
| [05:39:16] | Beirdo: | pretty sure that was what I watched. 1992 |
| [05:40:24] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Wagnerrp, no. But I saw that on Broadway. Someone I went to school with ran the puppet. I was referring to the original B&W non-musical version |
| [05:40:30] | Beirdo: | David Bowie was in one I watched at one point too. |
| [05:41:50] | wagnerrp: | 'a college professor implants a device in his brain that lets him fire an electromagnetic beam.' |
| [05:41:52] | wagnerrp: | awesome |
| [05:42:06] | wagnerrp: | shar^H^H^H^Hteachers with fricken laser beams |
| [05:43:08] | sphery: | Beirdo: Labyrinth was a great movie |
| [05:43:26] | Beirdo: | Labyrinth sounds right |
| [05:43:26] | ** wagnerrp bets sphery is looking up that outer limits episode to watch right now ** | |
| [05:43:45] | Beirdo: | it was great, but it's been > 10 years since I saw it |
| [05:44:09] | sphery: | heh, yeah, gotta find out what mischief this laser-toting teacher gets into |
| [05:44:45] | sphery: | yeah, been a while for me, too |
| [05:45:16] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | i prefer the Twilight Zone episodes with Burgess Meredith. |
| [05:45:56] | sphery: | I liked the new ones with Forest Whitaker, but they killed that off quickly |
| [05:47:08] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I recall one where this woman's family keeps changing...and at the end you discover she's living in the Sims. |
| [05:48:18] | sphery: | GadgetWisdomGuru: heh: http://www.tv.com/the-twilight-zone-2002/upgr . . . summary.html |
| [05:48:26] | wagnerrp: | i enjoyed the 90's outer limits remake, what little i saw of it anyway |
| [05:48:31] | wagnerrp: | in the 90s, when i was 10 |
| [05:48:32] | Beirdo: | she keep running into walls? |
| [05:50:20] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | The 90s remake was very well done. |
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| [05:52:52] | wagnerrp: | and yet another lost soul running their backend in a VM |
| [05:53:32] | sphery: | but it's so much bette... it's /virtual/ |
| [05:53:38] | Beirdo: | there may be valid reasons for doing that |
| [05:53:46] | Beirdo: | danged if I know what off hand |
| [05:53:47] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [05:53:55] | wagnerrp: | no, there are very few reason to run a VM |
| [05:54:03] | sphery: | I run all my systems in virtual machines, using virtual electricity |
| [05:54:05] | Beirdo: | very untrue |
| [05:54:12] | wagnerrp: | basically limited to needing to run multiple different kernels |
| [05:54:15] | Beirdo: | there are a lot of good reason |
| [05:54:20] | Beirdo: | s |
| [05:54:23] | wagnerrp: | if you dont need different kernels, there are better solutions |
| [05:54:32] | Beirdo: | just not ones you agree with, probably :) |
| [05:54:49] | Beirdo: | now, for HOME... you have a good point |
| [05:54:51] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:55:15] | Beirdo: | and for mythtv specifically, I'm at a loss as to why you'd want to |
| [05:55:15] | wagnerrp: | even commercial, if youre not running different kernels, there are better solutions |
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| [05:55:30] | Beirdo: | what, more computers? |
| [05:55:40] | Beirdo: | sharing a server for many different services? |
| [05:55:43] | wagnerrp: | some form of security container |
| [05:55:45] | Beirdo: | ick and ICK |
| [05:55:57] | Beirdo: | that's pretty much the same as a VM, really |
| [05:56:04] | wagnerrp: | anything between basic chroot, and a full vserver |
| [05:56:11] | wagnerrp: | but you dont have a virtualized system |
| [05:56:12] | Beirdo: | conceptually very similar |
| [05:56:19] | wagnerrp: | its all running on bare metal |
| [05:56:33] | Beirdo: | so is Xen in HVM mode |
| [05:56:38] | mzb is now known as mzb_zz | |
| [05:56:49] | Beirdo: | and faster than vservers, I might add :) |
| [05:56:56] | Beirdo: | too bad Xen is a goner |
| [05:57:33] | Beirdo: | anyways... for myth, it's silly |
| [05:57:39] | wagnerrp: | i just think all that stuff can be better chopped up and isolated in the kernel |
| [05:57:41] | Beirdo: | as you want all the resources you can get |
| [05:58:16] | wagnerrp: | and that full VMs are the 20lb sledge that you throw at something because you dont want to spend the effort on a more elegant solution |
| [05:58:25] | Beirdo: | sharing the CPU and memory is not high on my list of prorities for my backend |
| [05:59:20] | wagnerrp: | it used to be that instead of properly sizing things and sharing resources, you just threw more hardware at the problem |
| [05:59:37] | wagnerrp: | now theyre throwing virtualization at the problem, and its still an ugly, brute force approach |
| [05:59:54] | Beirdo: | better than throwing HW at it |
| [06:00:01] | Beirdo: | but only slightly |
| [06:00:02] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:00:10] | wagnerrp: | i wonder just how much extra silicon goes into chips to provide HVM support |
| [06:00:22] | Beirdo: | Oooooooooh, hdhomerun time. |
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| [06:01:38] | Beirdo: | 2010-08–18 23:00:59.429 Desktop video mode: 160x90 16666 Hz |
| [06:01:41] | Beirdo: | snicker |
| [06:05:19] | Beirdo: | guess I have to setup another SD lineup shortly |
| [06:12:45] | Beirdo: | let me guess... channel scanner still wonky? |
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| [06:16:00] | Beirdo: | Timed out, 6 possible channels |
| [06:16:08] | Beirdo: | oddness |
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| [06:18:46] | Beirdo: | interesting... it thinks it found MPEG channels too |
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| [07:08:36] | Beirdo: | OK. Working HD Homerun :) |
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| [07:20:44] | Beirdo: | Nice |
| [07:21:06] | Beirdo: | and I just told every recording that I know is on the locals to prefer the HD Homerun over the HDPVR |
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| [07:37:33] | Beirdo: | bedtime, I think |
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| [09:36:19] | rileyp: | my real name symlinks open and play perfect on the be but on the FE they folder is empty If i put a std file in the symlionk folder it appears on the fe though |
| [09:36:28] | rileyp: | thses are for my myth recordings |
| [09:36:36] | rileyp: | both symlink folder and recording folder is mounted with samba |
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| [10:33:10] | mattwj2002: | hi all |
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| [11:30:02] | rileyp: | anyone |
| [11:30:37] | mattwj2002: | hi rileyp |
| [11:30:49] | rileyp: | Hi mattwj2002 |
| [11:30:54] | mattwj2002: | I have to go in 15 minutes |
| [11:31:04] | rileyp: | my real name symlinks open and play perfect on the be but on the FE they folder is empty If i put a std file in the symlionk folder it appears on the fe though |
| [11:31:06] | mattwj2002: | hello |
| [11:31:12] | rileyp: | thses are for my myth recordings |
| [11:31:18] | rileyp: | both symlink folder and recording folder is mounted with samba |
| [11:31:52] | rileyp: | I cant work out whats happening |
| [11:32:06] | mattwj2002: | hmmm |
| [11:32:11] | rileyp: | the mount is fine permissions seem fine |
| [11:32:21] | mattwj2002: | I am not sure maybe samba doesn't like the symlinks? |
| [11:32:34] | rileyp: | yet the symlinks dont even appear |
| [11:33:01] | rileyp: | but they appear and work when opened on the back end |
| [11:33:20] | rileyp: | well I had them working months ago |
| [11:33:33] | mattwj2002: | hmmm |
| [11:33:40] | mattwj2002: | let me check something |
| [11:33:54] | rileyp: | and now I dunno what Ive done but its a no worky |
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| [11:35:30] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [11:35:42] | mattwj2002: | rileyp: I have no idea |
| [11:35:43] | mattwj2002: | :( |
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| [13:27:58] | Twiggy2cents: | I have an issue with mythpywii and fedora. It doesnt work. I have tried downloading it from the repos, but dont know how to run it. I downloaded the file off of the web and can run it manually but it says that it takes exactly two arguements or something over and over. I know this is on the verge of off topic but I figured I would have more chance of finding an answer here than in #fedora |
| [13:28:15] | rileyp: | symbolic link on front end not showing up in mounted dir |
| [13:29:37] | rileyp: | I cant work wtf is going on link folder and origibal recodings are both mounted in exact same dirs on FE and BE |
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| [13:32:57] | xand: | permissions? |
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| [13:34:23] | jams: | iamlindoro- next time your mucking around with video, add the feature to keep track of how many times a video has been played |
| [13:37:07] | rileyp: | xand I think it is a premissions problem but I cant seem to resolve it |
| [13:37:36] | xand: | su to the user which mythtv runs as and try to access the files |
| [13:37:51] | rileyp: | chmod: cannot access `V For Vendetta (2005).mpg': Permission denied |
| [13:38:45] | xand: | right |
| [13:38:55] | xand: | you need to specify the uid/gid for the smb mount |
| [13:39:18] | rileyp: | chown: changing ownership of `/home/dad/Documents/video/recordings/Mythbusters.2.mpg': Permission denied |
| [13:39:24] | xand: | not like that |
| [13:39:41] | rileyp: | hang on |
| [13:39:43] | xand: | read man smbmount or man mount.cifs depending on which you are using |
| [13:39:50] | xand: | there are uid and gid options I think |
| [13:40:44] | rileyp: | all my samba mounts seem to work fine excpt the symlink folder |
| [13:40:55] | rileyp: | all use exact same settings |
| [13:42:18] | rileyp: | /192.168.1.10/recordings /home/dad/Documents/video/recordings cifs auto,iocharset=utf8,uid=dad,gid=users,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mo de=0775,dir_mode=0775 0 0 |
| [13:43:18] | rileyp: | thats the symlink folder in fstab and if i dump a std file in there it opens fine on the front end |
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| [14:19:14] | xand: | rileyp: maybe it's to do with where the symlinks point to? |
| [14:19:27] | xand: | not sure how symlinks work over cifs |
| [14:20:03] | xand: | I think it's cleverer than smbfs and knows they are symlinks and tries to resolve them, rather than serving up the file they point to |
| [14:23:08] | wagnerrp: | is the CIFS server on a linux machine? |
| [14:23:36] | wagnerrp: | if youre using samba as the server, you should be using NFS instead |
| [14:23:56] | wagnerrp: | that aside, samba supports the use of client-side symlinks on filesystems that supports symlinks |
| [14:24:12] | wagnerrp: | if you have 'unix extensions' enabled, resolving will be done client side |
| [14:24:19] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, resolving will be done server side |
| [14:24:48] | wagnerrp: | so if its down client side, and the client doesnt have access to the file linked to, it will not work |
| [14:24:59] | rileyp: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 dad mythtv 58 2010-08–16 23:52 UNDERBELLY- THE GOLDEN MILE.3.mpg -> /home/dad/Documents/video/recorded/1009_20100530202500.mpg |
| [14:25:29] | rileyp: | that is a symlink on the backend i can ponit and click and it plays in vlc |
| [14:25:58] | rileyp: | on the FE I can ponit and click at original recording and it plays in vlc |
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| [14:27:01] | rileyp: | but the symlinks on the frot end show up like this |
| [14:27:32] | rileyp: | l????????? ? ? ? ? ? Potatoes And Dragons.5.mpg |
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| [14:34:02] | rileyp: | the symlinks that mythexports creates should they be owned by mythtv:mythtv? |
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| [14:34:23] | rileyp: | Ive fiddled and i dont know to be honest |
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| [14:41:16] | marc-us: | I came in halfway through your messages rileyp. With what are you creating the symlinks? |
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| [14:44:41] | rileyp: | I gtg to bed sorry marc-us else I wont get up for work. tnansk for the offer It was mythexport ........ |
| [14:45:15] | marc-us: | OK see you later |
| [14:45:17] | marc-us: | bye |
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| [16:28:48] | wagnerrp: | why does polish need special consideration for the OSD? |
| [16:30:07] | Beirdo: | hehe, I was thinking that too... |
| [16:30:20] | Beirdo: | Hebrew would likely need more consideration |
| [16:30:27] | Beirdo: | being an RTL language |
| [16:30:32] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i could understand backwards text |
| [16:30:33] | Beirdo: | anyways.... off I o |
| [16:30:41] | wagnerrp: | but i didnt think polish did anything special |
| [16:30:51] | Beirdo: | polishing I think is what he meant |
| [16:31:09] | wagnerrp: | OH |
| [16:31:11] | wagnerrp: | ... right |
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| [17:30:51] | Beirdo: | woohoo... 7 encoders listed now :) |
| [17:31:21] | Beirdo: | 1 HDPVR, 2 PVR-250, dual channel HD Homerun with max 2 recordings per tuner |
| [17:32:05] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I have 1HDPVR, one DVB card, 1 PVR-250, and one dual HDHomerun myself |
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| [17:34:38] | itscrimetime: | are hdpvr's only true hd recorders |
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| [18:57:04] | sphery: | itscrimetime: they're the only compatible analog HDTV encoders |
| [18:57:29] | sphery: | of course all the digital tuners can record "true HD" |
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| [19:18:36] | rwlove: | Hello... my mythbackend process keeps segfaulting |
| [19:18:49] | rwlove: | can anyone give me any pointers on how to debug the issue? |
| [19:19:19] | rwlove: | mythbackend[2016]: segfault at 7f227b5ffff8 ip 00007f22903f8ee2 sp 00007f227b5fffb0 error 6 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f229037e000+17a000] |
| [19:19:25] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
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| [19:19:34] | iamlindoro: | Get a backtrace per those instructions and we can look at it |
| [19:19:50] | rwlove: | ok will do |
| [19:20:09] | rwlove: | I won't be by the computer for a few hours |
| [19:20:21] | rwlove: | are there common problems that I can start thinking about? |
| [19:20:33] | rwlove: | or it's too broad without the backtrace I suppose... |
| [19:21:44] | iamlindoro: | Difficult to say anything without a backtrace, but common issues are not being on up to date code, or having multiple installed copies of the myth libs |
| [19:21:50] | iamlindoro: | ie, installing .23 directly over .22, etc. |
| [19:22:07] | rwlove: | gotcha... odd thing is that it was working fine |
| [19:22:13] | rwlove: | for months... |
| [19:22:25] | sphery: | heh... Sounds just like the US TV networks: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1728 . . . doomed-start |
| [19:22:28] | rwlove: | then I went on vacation and when I came home it segfaults every minute |
| [19:22:50] | rwlove: | for a 30 minute show I'll get 30, 1 minute segments |
| [19:23:01] | rwlove: | because it will segfault and then restart the recording |
| [19:23:23] | iamlindoro: | possible you are having a hardware issue |
| [19:23:27] | iamlindoro: | PSU going bad, etc. |
| [19:23:33] | sphery: | sounds like it's jealous that it didn't get to go on vacation? |
| [19:23:35] | iamlindoro: | because it's extremely uncommon for the BE to crash like that |
| [19:23:56] | rwlove: | I'm running memtest while I'm at work |
| [19:24:02] | sphery: | or possible that some update was applied to the system/mythtv and it didn't work right? |
| [19:24:12] | sphery: | do you have auto-updates enabled? |
| [19:24:15] | rwlove: | no |
| [19:24:23] | rwlove: | it requires me to confirm the update |
| [19:24:31] | ** iamlindoro puts money on hardware going bad ** | |
| [19:24:51] | rwlove: | ugh... that would suck |
| [19:25:05] | rwlove: | the rest of the system seems stable though |
| [19:25:11] | sphery: | backtrace would be the best bet |
| [19:25:15] | sphery: | could be memory, too |
| [19:25:24] | sphery: | i.e. "don't forget memory" :) |
| [19:27:12] | rwlove: | I did a dist-upgrade after I saw the problem to see if I could get luck |
| [19:27:17] | rwlove: | but I didn't get lucky |
| [19:27:45] | rwlove: | and the problems happens on recordings from two different sources |
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| [19:33:18] | marc-us: | sphery: Hello there. |
| [19:33:33] | marc-us: | it's been a while. |
| [19:34:07] | iamlindoro: | Is this where he clears out of town because you've arrived to expose his awful, awful secret? |
| [19:34:17] | iamlindoro: | That once, during nam, he torched an entire village of innocents? |
| [19:35:15] | Beirdo: | blargh |
| [19:35:28] | Beirdo: | STILL a compile error in mythplayer.cpp? |
| [19:35:45] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: patches applied? Compiling okay here |
| [19:35:45] | Beirdo: | at least when used with the ffmpeg resync. |
| [19:36:13] | Beirdo: | line 3869 – codec_id_string => ff_codec_id_string and it compiles |
| [19:36:23] | Beirdo: | but I think that's related to the resync |
| [19:37:17] | sphery: | marc-us: hello |
| [19:38:40] | Beirdo: | easy enough to fix locally, of course |
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| [19:45:50] | Beirdo: | and compiled :) |
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| [20:00:06] | Beirdo: | w00t. |
| [20:00:36] | Beirdo: | today I'm recording on HDPVR + 2 channels of HD Homerun simultaneously :) |
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| [20:00:42] | janneg: | Beirdo: already fixed in ffmpeg_sync_25764 |
| [20:01:17] | Beirdo: | oh? I'm based off that, and it still seemed to do it, but I'll check again tonight or soemthing |
| [20:01:21] | Beirdo: | simple fix anyways |
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| [20:02:43] | janneg: | well, already in the sense independently but after you noticed |
| [20:03:12] | Beirdo: | what happens if the HD Homerun can't lock on a channel for some reason? will the recording get emergency rescheduled onto another source? |
| [20:03:18] | Beirdo: | janneg: ahhh :) |
| [20:04:46] | Beirdo: | sphery: I gotta watch out or I'll catch up to you! |
| [20:04:56] | Beirdo: | although I need more disk for that :) |
| [20:05:36] | sphery: | heh, yeah, get enough recorders and you'll definitely record more than you watch :) |
| [20:06:27] | Beirdo: | well, 9:30–10pm tonight, my drive is gonna get a significant amount of data ;) |
| [20:06:42] | Beirdo: | 3 HD shows simultaneously |
| [20:07:05] | sphery: | yeah, I often have 3 or 4 recordings throughout all of prime time during the season |
| [20:07:08] | Beirdo: | and that's without it exercising multirec |
| [20:07:16] | sphery: | cool |
| [20:07:26] | Beirdo: | I'm just concerned if KOMO won't come in (4_1) |
| [20:07:40] | Beirdo: | it didn't for part of last night, but did for another part |
| [20:07:51] | Beirdo: | I hope the backend deals with it well |
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| [20:08:18] | Beirdo: | like "oh crap, the hd homerun's not getting data, record it on ... the PVR250 instead, stat!" |
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| [20:08:37] | Beirdo: | local ABC, BTW |
| [20:08:38] | sphery: | yeah, backend won't do that for you |
| [20:08:44] | sphery: | so it would have to be you saying that :) |
| [20:08:56] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [20:09:07] | Beirdo: | I know something I'll wanna patch in later somehow |
| [20:09:08] | sphery: | or work a better antenna solution |
| [20:09:09] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:09:24] | Beirdo: | anyways, gonna go grab lunc |
| [20:09:25] | sphery: | or delete that channel from that video source |
| [20:09:35] | sphery: | or set a negative priority on that channel |
| [20:09:39] | Beirdo: | no, I want it to use it when it can |
| [20:09:44] | sphery: | (which, btw, is about the /only/ valid use for channel priorities :) |
| [20:09:52] | Beirdo: | if recording fails, switch to another source |
| [20:10:05] | Beirdo: | but if we don't do that now... maybe sometime later we will :) |
| [20:10:19] | Beirdo: | but yeah, antenna tweaking will likely help |
| [20:10:21] | Beirdo: | lunch... |
| [20:10:37] | sphery: | if you do get interested in it, there's a ticket for detecting failed recordings |
| [20:10:49] | sphery: | think it was recently closed since it had been open for years with no actual progress |
| [20:11:06] | sphery: | and the originally reported issue (firewire fails to tune) was fixed |
| [20:11:31] | sphery: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3872 |
| [20:12:31] | sphery: | it's currently in the "Please reopen when you have a patch" state |
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| [20:28:14] | marc-us: | speaking of hdpvr's I finally updated the firmware on my hdpvr boxes and I'm going to try to run them together and see if that solves my earlier mystery problem |
| [20:28:47] | marc-us: | Problem is that we can't take the server down until a narrow window of 3 hours on saturday |
| [20:28:54] | marc-us: | We record that much |
| [20:29:33] | marc-us: | especialy during the evening hours where I can actually pay attention to it. |
| [20:30:32] | marc-us: | Since we last spoke sphery, I picked up another HDHR for 80 bucks. A refurb but it works perfectly |
| [20:31:04] | marc-us: | It sure will come in handy during the new prime time season |
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| [20:34:21] | sphery: | cool |
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| [20:38:51] | marc-us: | The only remaining vexes are the HDPVRs playing nice together and the occasional dumping to the desktop when the guide is used. The WAF is very high now |
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| [20:59:33] | Beirdo: | sphery: yeah, hopefully 0-byte recordings stop forever, but I won't hold my breath quite yet ;) |
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| [21:52:34] | Beirdo: | so wish netflix would stream to Linux :) |
| [21:52:41] | Beirdo: | it looked nice on the TV last night |
| [21:53:59] | sphery: | Beirdo: did you see the article I linked about Google TV? |
| [21:54:10] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [21:54:16] | Beirdo: | didn't notice it |
| [21:54:32] | sphery: | looks like networks are looking to destroy it for the same ideas of control/DRM that Netflix wants over its stuff: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1728 . . . doomed-start |
| [21:54:57] | Beirdo: | source... The Inquirer?! |
| [21:54:58] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:55:24] | sphery: | well, even taking that into account, I can see that being the way the networks will approach it |
| [21:55:29] | Beirdo: | me too |
| [21:55:34] | iamlindoro: | distinct from the *Enquirer* |
| [21:55:38] | sphery: | true |
| [21:55:48] | Beirdo: | hah, yeah |
| [21:56:05] | sphery: | they wrote a story about how Google TV was alien technology finally reverse engineered at Area 51 |
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| [22:08:25] | Beirdo: | so my new TV uses yahoo widgets. |
| [22:08:33] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:08:38] | Beirdo: | sellouts |
| [22:09:05] | Beirdo: | I wonder if an iPad would make a good frontend... :) |
| [22:09:11] | ** Beirdo is insane, yes ** | |
| [22:09:30] | sphery: | wonder if they'll upgrade it to use Bing widgets in the future... :) |
| [22:09:37] | Beirdo: | that's about the size I'd want for my kitchen |
| [22:10:02] | Beirdo: | Bong widgets. |
| [22:10:39] | Beirdo: | Family Guy is on far too many times and on too many channels |
| [22:11:24] | sphery: | not a problem if you've already recorded (or Never Recorded) all the episodes |
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| [22:11:33] | Beirdo: | well... that's the problem |
| [22:11:53] | Beirdo: | new db... I need to import my OLD "already recorded" info |
| [22:12:00] | sphery: | ahh |
| [22:12:13] | Beirdo: | but it's a great way to stresstest your box |
| [22:12:13] | sphery: | if it's not a blank db, that will get very difficult fast |
| [22:12:18] | Beirdo: | that and Law & Order |
| [22:12:44] | sphery: | maybe will get easier after 10 days, though |
| [22:12:48] | Beirdo: | in my next 10 shows to record.... 5 are family guy. 3 different channels |
| [22:13:05] | sphery: | i.e. so there are no overlapping oldrecorded entries |
| [22:13:12] | Beirdo: | ah |
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| [22:13:29] | Beirdo: | was wondering what was special about the 29th in particular |
| [22:13:49] | sphery: | heh |
| [22:14:33] | Beirdo: | coffee table arrived today. and the *censored* leasing office is closed early today for "corporate training" |
| [22:14:44] | sphery: | so I have a video from an iphone 4 that plays sideways in xine and mplayer... wonder what it does on MythTV. |
| [22:14:51] | Beirdo: | so I wait for tomorrow to pick it up |
| [22:15:03] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:15:05] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [22:15:15] | sphery: | at least they didn't close on a day that means waiting 'til Monday |
| [22:15:26] | Beirdo: | they are open 7 days a week |
| [22:15:34] | Beirdo: | but the weekend hours are bleh :) |
| [22:16:13] | sphery: | ah, that's cool |
| [22:16:27] | Beirdo: | and they DO accept packages :) |
| [22:16:31] | Beirdo: | so that's pretty cool |
| [22:16:53] | sphery: | It's annoying enough when a delivery (especially a 2-day or whatever) spans the weekend. Would be worse to have it get delivered to some office and still have to wait over a weekend. |
| [22:16:56] | Beirdo: | I can send UPS/Fedex/whatever to my home address and someone's always there to sign for it and keep it in the back room |
| [22:17:14] | Beirdo: | they normally close at 6. today. at 3. |
| [22:17:14] | sphery: | they all just leave the packages on my doorstep |
| [22:17:19] | Beirdo: | as in 17 min ago |
| [22:17:23] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [22:17:24] | sphery: | which--once you've told them to do it once, you can't untell them |
| [22:17:45] | Beirdo: | I picked up 4 boxes yesterday. TV, gig switch, hd homerun, antenna |
| [22:17:46] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:17:59] | sphery: | never had a problem, though--even when they left >$3000 worth of electronics on my doorstep while I was away on business for a week |
| [22:18:14] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [22:19:00] | sphery: | I called to have them hold delivery, but they said they couldn't without permission from the sender (i.e. a bunch of computer companies)--I suppose because of the contracts they had with them and the "3-day delivery" stuff... |
| [22:19:35] | Beirdo: | that's a load of PPBBBBBT! |
| [22:20:32] | sphery: | FedEx said they could put a note on the package and then it would be up to the driver's discretion. The problem was the "note" isn't made available until the driver submits the "delivered" notice. (He actually came back and got his stuff--and saw the pile of UPS stuff and wished he could take it for me, too). |
| [22:20:53] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:21:05] | Beirdo: | what has brown done for you lately? |
| [22:21:17] | sphery: | guess, though, that it's probably a lot cheaper to use insurance than the additional manual effort for stuff like that |
| [22:21:28] | Beirdo: | probably so |
| [22:25:12] | sphery: | kormoc: you'd like today's http://www.reallifecomics.com/ |
| [22:25:57] | kormoc: | Hrm.... |
| [22:26:00] | ** kormoc ponders ** | |
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| [22:52:58] | bjd_: | 3 day delivery? is that meant to be fast? |
| [22:53:17] | Beirdo: | depends on how far the stuff is coming |
| [22:53:30] | bjd_: | i guess |
| [22:53:52] | Beirdo: | if it's going across the US, that's not bad at all |
| [22:54:21] | Beirdo: | if it's across town, it's sucky |
| [22:54:25] | bjd_: | Yeah |
| [22:54:33] | bjd_: | just used to have stuff next day |
| [22:54:37] | bjd_: | having* |
| [22:54:56] | Beirdo: | I usually do 2-day with Amazon Prime... free shipping FTW |
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| [22:56:15] | bjd_: | i shipped 30 servers from LHR to VAN in less than three days then customs held it all up |
| [22:56:19] | bjd_: | heh |
| [22:57:50] | bjd_: | sleepy time |
| [22:57:52] | bjd_: | nn! |
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| [23:54:44] | Beirdo: | hmmm, |
| [23:54:57] | Beirdo: | want better box for commflag/transcode. |
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