| Sunday, August 15th, 2010, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:05] | high-rez: | ARIN could be replaced with a perl script and it'd be more effective. |
| [00:00:16] | Beirdo: | maybe someone is still using the IP space |
| [00:00:22] | Beirdo: | like the former owner |
| [00:00:47] | jduggan: | i have a customer that has a /17 since the 90s, they pay the ripe fees and dont even use it, we're keeping them sweet so we can maybe use it when our last /19 runs out |
| [00:01:28] | high-rez: | jduggan: The sweet place to be is on address space that was assigned by internic. Its grandfathered under ARIN with no maintenance fees. |
| [00:01:56] | jduggan: | high-rez: yep, quite familiar with it |
| [00:02:37] | jduggan: | soon we'll have bounties on address space |
| [00:02:56] | jduggan: | it will be interesting to see how everbody copes |
| [00:03:07] | high-rez: | Bounties? |
| [00:03:20] | Beirdo: | OK, next victim... |
| [00:03:30] | jduggan: | people paying others under the table for address space |
| [00:03:50] | high-rez: | If the system is ever gonna be near fair, the big grandfathered networks (/8's) need to start justifying their uses... |
| [00:04:11] | high-rez: | jduggan: Heh, that already happens all the time. |
| [00:04:24] | jduggan: | high-rez: on a small scale |
| [00:04:26] | wagnerrp: | you start carving up the big /8s, weve got another 5+ years of address space |
| [00:04:37] | jduggan: | again, very familiar with it |
| [00:04:54] | jduggan: | when is a /8 a big /8 |
| [00:05:00] | jduggan: | and not a small one? |
| [00:05:02] | jduggan: | :p |
| [00:05:09] | high-rez: | *cough*17/8*cough* |
| [00:05:48] | Beirdo: | how do I specify to use the QT Painter again? |
| [00:05:53] | Beirdo: | -O.... |
| [00:05:59] | wagnerrp: | ThemePainter= |
| [00:06:20] | Beirdo: | =Qt |
| [00:06:22] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [00:06:25] | wagnerrp: | qt |
| [00:06:28] | Beirdo: | k |
| [00:06:29] | high-rez: | Hey, did I mentioned earlier that the vdpau painter isn't working on my system? :) Since someone said painter. |
| [00:06:37] | wagnerrp: | VDPAU doesnt have a painter |
| [00:06:43] | Beirdo: | it does now |
| [00:06:48] | high-rez: | svn log | more |
| [00:06:48] | high-rez: | ? |
| [00:06:54] | wagnerrp: | oh? |
| [00:07:01] | Beirdo: | markk put one in within the last few days |
| [00:07:16] | high-rez: | And it works, except that it doesn't work when moving from the player back to the menus. |
| [00:07:23] | wagnerrp: | you mean hidden among all the trac spam? |
| [00:07:43] | high-rez: | E.g. click livetv, enjoy livetv, then hit escape to go to the menu and mythfrontend freezes. |
| [00:07:44] | wagnerrp: | why use a vdpau painter? |
| [00:07:54] | high-rez: | According to the svn log its more efficient ;) |
| [00:07:56] | wagnerrp: | i mean anything that does vdpau should do opengl just fine shouldnt it? |
| [00:08:29] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: pretty much.... It think it's a memory management thing |
| [00:08:30] | ** wagnerrp svn ups ** | |
| [00:08:57] | high-rez: | r25645 | markk | 2010-08–14 02:28:02 -0700 (Sat, 14 Aug 2010) | 7 lines |
| [00:08:58] | high-rez: | There. |
| [00:09:59] | wagnerrp: | system memory or graphics memory? |
| [00:10:16] | Beirdo: | graphics, I think |
| [00:10:22] | high-rez: | I'd imagine graphics... |
| [00:10:30] | wagnerrp: | ah, yeah... mentions the 256MB cards |
| [00:10:33] | Beirdo: | markk's changed so much around, I'm having a hard time keeping up :) |
| [00:11:07] | high-rez: | One day, 0.24 stops getting new features, I might start opening up bugs. Development is massively rapid atm. |
| [00:11:29] | Beirdo: | ummm, please put them in before then :) |
| [00:11:49] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [00:12:04] | wagnerrp: | nothing worse than being swamped with a bunch of unexpected bugs as you go into feature freeze |
| [00:12:36] | wagnerrp: | also ties are hands as to what we can do to resolve them, no new features and all |
| [00:13:17] | high-rez: | Alright, post lawn mow I'll start complaining^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hopening bugs |
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| [00:20:48] | wagnerrp: | heh... i just realized trac uses python, python was the /perfect/ place to test a regular expression for the trac filter list |
| [00:20:56] | wagnerrp: | i was worried about it not working |
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| [00:34:36] | ** Beirdo compiles with #7778 patch ** | |
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| [00:48:28] | Beirdo: | another one bites the dust. |
| [00:51:06] | wagnerrp: | lake placid... 3? |
| [00:51:25] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah |
| [00:51:26] | wagnerrp: | the alligators arent endangered anymore! |
| [00:51:45] | Beirdo: | I'd actually like to be IN Lake Placid right now |
| [00:52:09] | kormoc: | Beirdo, jump in #slackware and ask a Ubuntu question |
| [00:52:24] | Beirdo: | hehe, I meant the actual lake in upper NY :) |
| [00:52:44] | Beirdo: | but yeah, taht would be a close way to emulate the movie |
| [00:52:53] | Beirdo: | or go to #ubuntu and ask about ebuilds |
| [00:53:29] | Beirdo: | woohoo, failed hunks. |
| [00:53:41] | Beirdo: | oh joy oh bliss... |
| [00:54:04] | Beirdo: | of course to TEST this mess, I need some RAW photos to test with in mythgallery |
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| [01:06:07] | high-rez: | Shaweet. Got my front room wired to the rest of the network. Should be able to make my two standalone myths into a single system now :) |
| [01:06:42] | wagnerrp: | standalone? but... but why? |
| [01:09:12] | high-rez: | wagnerrp: We remodeled – and repalced the carpet with hardwood. The result was the ethernet cable I had under the carpet had to be taken out. So I had to break the setup into two separate systems until I could run cable in the walls/attic (done). |
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| [01:13:39] | Beirdo: | shoulda routed a groove into the subfloor |
| [01:13:41] | Beirdo: | ;) |
| [01:14:23] | Beirdo: | anyone have any example RAW photos I can test with? |
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| [01:16:30] | PMantis: | Hi, I added a pcHDTV HD-5500 to my master backend, and now have 3 entries in the captureccard table, but only 2 under "Capture Cards" in mythtv-setup. 2 DVB and 1 V4L. The 2 DVBs are identical except for the cardid (of course) and dvb_diseqc_type. One is NULL, other 0. Is this right? |
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| [01:18:00] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [01:18:18] | wagnerrp: | your ATSC tuner is duplicated for the purposes of multirec |
| [01:18:40] | PMantis: | wagnerrp, Ahhhhh, ok |
| [01:19:19] | PMantis: | wagnerrp, I was caught off-guard when mythweb showed an extra tuner. :) |
| [01:23:12] | PMantis: | I'm re-installing my whole set up... backends and frontends. On the frontend in live mode, I can use the menu to switch inputs, but no matter what input I'm using, I only get channel 2 and an option when using channel up/down. That input doesn't even default to channel 2, and on the DVB input that is NO channel 2. I don't get why browsing doesn't appear to work. |
| [01:24:39] | wagnerrp: | mythweb doesnt show tuners |
| [01:25:15] | PMantis: | wagnerrp, Well, under backend status, it's called "Encoders" |
| [01:25:28] | PMantis: | You're suggesting a distinction? |
| [01:25:41] | wagnerrp: | no, im saying thats not mythweb |
| [01:25:52] | Beirdo: | don't be daft :) |
| [01:26:00] | wagnerrp: | http://<yourbackendip>:6544/ |
| [01:26:02] | Beirdo: | you're confusing him :) |
| [01:26:11] | wagnerrp: | thats just a passthrough page from the backend |
| [01:26:16] | wagnerrp: | mythweb does not generate it |
| [01:26:21] | wagnerrp: | merely stylize it a bit |
| [01:26:23] | Beirdo: | there we go :) |
| [01:27:09] | ** PMantis thinks wagnerrp is tiring from answering questions ** | |
| [01:27:49] | wagnerrp: | not at all |
| [01:27:53] | wagnerrp: | merely correcting a misconception |
| [01:28:56] | PMantis: | wagnerrp, Well, technically as the end user, I don't give a damn what creates the data, just where it's displayed. :) |
| [01:29:46] | wagnerrp: | fair enough |
| [01:30:02] | wagnerrp: | but as the end user, you may want to know where that data comes from, in the event you want to use it for your own designs |
| [01:30:04] | PMantis: | However, it is nice to know more under the hood. |
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| [01:30:11] | PMantis: | Yes |
| [01:31:01] | ** Beirdo knew... heh ** | |
| [01:31:09] | PMantis: | Anyway, I figured out that my frontend was set for a channel group other than "All Channels". |
| [01:31:17] | Beirdo: | as I tweaked that output a while back |
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| [01:32:02] | PMantis: | Oh come on! I open live TV to test a tuner.. to find QVC selling a bra |
| [01:32:22] | Beirdo: | if you buy it, does it disappear off the model? |
| [01:32:30] | PMantis: | Myth *must* do something about this. |
| [01:32:34] | PMantis: | Oh, hmmm |
| [01:32:40] | wagnerrp: | you can even tweak that output without touching a bit of code... http://mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Miscellaneous . . . tion_Scripts |
| [01:32:45] | Beirdo: | easy, remove QVC from your channel list :) |
| [01:33:08] | ** PMantis quickly searches for the interactive TV toggle ** | |
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| [01:43:47] | high-rez: | Beirdo: That wouldn't have been a bad idea. But the guys that put my floor in wouldda found a way to put a nail through the cable for sure. I also had to run my speaker cables – but that was all into the same room so it was no big deal. |
| [01:44:02] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:44:06] | high-rez: | Beirdo: have you had luck with your samsung tv and upnp? Mine is just crap. |
| [01:44:27] | wagnerrp: | thats because its not scottish |
| [01:44:31] | Beirdo: | yeah, it works pretty well for me |
| [01:44:43] | high-rez: | It seems mpeg2 hd content is ok, heck even some dvds are ok (which is weird and unexpected) but h264 content is really hit and miss. |
| [01:44:51] | Beirdo: | but 1080i H.264 kinda knocks it down |
| [01:45:10] | Beirdo: | 720p and 480p work just fine |
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| [01:45:27] | high-rez: | I think the vast majority of mine is 1080i |
| [01:45:36] | Beirdo: | yeah well. |
| [01:45:46] | Beirdo: | you'll have a hard time getting your TV to like that |
| [01:45:58] | high-rez: | It also just looks bad. |
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| [01:46:21] | Beirdo: | next time buy a Scottish model |
| [01:46:22] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:46:24] | high-rez: | The content rendered by the samsung internally is nothing like what it looks like coming out of vdpau. |
| [01:46:37] | ** high-rez is confused by all the scottish remarks. ** | |
| [01:46:42] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:46:50] | Beirdo: | SNL (Mike Myers) |
| [01:46:55] | high-rez: | Oh |
| [01:46:55] | wagnerrp: | samsung internally has nothing like the hardware available on an nvidia card |
| [01:47:05] | Beirdo: | "If it's not Scottish, it's crrrraap!" |
| [01:47:34] | high-rez: | Heh, it's as scottish as haggus!!! |
| [01:47:45] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'm surprised it does as well as it does, although there's no reason they couldn't have used a decent GPU |
| [01:48:15] | high-rez: | Yeah, a $20 chip would have made all the difference in the world. |
| [01:48:16] | wagnerrp: | i honestly dont understand why the Cell hasnt taken off as a video processor |
| [01:48:37] | wagnerrp: | is it really that expensive to package a couple SPEs on a chip? |
| [01:48:39] | kormoc: | expense? |
| [01:49:01] | wagnerrp: | surely theyve gotten their yields up to a respectable value these past four years |
| [01:49:02] | Beirdo: | yeah, maybe the TV would be like $15 more :) |
| [01:49:15] | high-rez: | Ehh, the only thing I've seen use the cell as a video renderer was the PS3 – and I wasn't impressed. |
| [01:49:36] | kormoc: | these are the folks that complain about a $0.01 difference in price per thousand for parts |
| [01:49:51] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:49:55] | Beirdo: | true enough |
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| [01:50:43] | high-rez: | Man, i'm so happy to be wired again. 802.11 is just a bad carrier for this stuff. |
| [01:51:11] | kormoc: | I've had good luck with 802.11N |
| [01:52:22] | high-rez: | I'm sure the fact that I'm using $15 802.11n APs plays into it a bit. |
| [01:52:32] | high-rez: | The software is awful. :) |
| [01:52:41] | kormoc: | Yeah, I have a $200 AP and a $100 bridge endpoint on the other end :) |
| [01:52:52] | kormoc: | (Airport Extreme to Airport Express) |
| [01:52:58] | high-rez: | Generally, if it runs dd-wrt it seems to be pretty good for me. |
| [01:53:09] | high-rez: | But this cheapo airlinks have terrible firmware. |
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| [01:55:44] | kormoc: | Yeah, I decided I was just gonna buy one that "Just Worked" |
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| [02:01:41] | Chaorain: | Hey all, I have some wmv files that I want to work with Mythtv, Every time I convert them either the sound is off or the video won't play. Can someone recomend a good converter program? |
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| [02:02:13] | wagnerrp: | mencoder, handbrake |
| [02:04:05] | kormoc: | ffmpeg |
| [02:05:42] | wagnerrp: | why cant you play the wmvs directly in mythtv? |
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| [02:07:24] | ** Beirdo is getting to the point of needing a nap ** | |
| [02:07:33] | wagnerrp: | if mythtv cant play it, its probably because its encrypted |
| [02:07:33] | Beirdo: | #8250... seems wrong to me |
| [02:07:40] | wagnerrp: | in which case nothing is going to help you |
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| [02:08:30] | Beirdo: | seems like what his patch will do is make hitting escape when down several levels in mythgallery... take you right out of mythgallery |
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| [02:10:04] | Beirdo: | that makes sense if you hit an actual jumppoint key, but if you just hit escape... it's borked |
| [02:10:52] | wagnerrp: | seems the spamming is on again, with drugs this time |
| [02:10:57] | Chaorain: | wagnerrp: mythtv doesn't even see them |
| [02:11:16] | wagnerrp: | have you scanned for them? |
| [02:11:25] | wagnerrp: | content doesnt just magically show up |
| [02:11:28] | Chaorain: | yeah, repetedly |
| [02:11:39] | Chaorain: | *repeatedly |
| [02:11:50] | wagnerrp: | do you possibly have 'wmv' set to an ignored type in the mythvideo setup? |
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| [02:12:47] | Chaorain: | I'll check that when I get back |
| [02:13:27] | wagnerrp: | wmvs should be included in the list of extensions to scan for in 0.23, and should be set to include them in the scan |
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| [02:13:41] | wagnerrp: | theyre actually a '.wmv' file? |
| [02:13:52] | wagnerrp: | as in, those are the last four characters of the name? |
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| [02:14:14] | Chaorain: | yes, here is where I got them. http://www.accursedfarms.com/Series.php?series=2 |
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| [02:15:30] | wagnerrp: | go into mysql, and run 'select * from videotypes where extension="wmv";' |
| [02:17:25] | Chaorain: | ok, I'll try that but I don't have access to it right now |
| [02:17:52] | wagnerrp: | never set up ssh? |
| [02:19:02] | Chaorain: | not yet, besides its behind a router I don't have access too |
| [02:19:45] | Chaorain: | unless ssh can get through that kind of thing. I don't need to use a proxy though |
| [02:20:16] | hachi: | I am assuming I can 'upgrade' my mythtv database from one version to another... but assuming that is right, do I need to pass through each version ? |
| [02:20:31] | hachi: | I'm running .21, sadly, can I skip right to .23 ? |
| [02:20:47] | kormoc: | you can skip |
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| [02:20:53] | hachi: | yey |
| [02:21:40] | wagnerrp: | you can upgrade straight from any version back to like 0.14 |
| [02:22:27] | hachi: | I think the version I first ran, back when I lived a ways away, was .19, but I can't really remember anymore |
| [02:22:47] | hachi: | so I can't even go that far back :) |
| [02:24:16] | hachi: | do you actually recommend using the debian multimedia packages of mythtv? |
| [02:24:29] | hachi: | or is that 'verbotten' to some degree? |
| [02:24:44] | wagnerrp: | why would it be 'verboten'? |
| [02:25:38] | hachi: | I dunno, the openldap folks recommend not using the debian version of openldap because of gnutls not giving decent error messages for users and things like that |
| [02:25:43] | hachi: | not sure if you guys have anything like that :) |
| [02:26:03] | hachi: | of course, your question leads me right to the answer |
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| [02:28:04] | hachi: | has the world of digital cable channel scanning improved at all? in particular the issue of channel numbers not matching up with the listings automatically? |
| [02:28:26] | kormoc: | in the US you don't scan digital cable, just setup a SD lineup for it |
| [02:28:27] | hachi: | looking through release notes and things, not sure if I'm missing it :) |
| [02:28:46] | hachi: | kormoc: did that work back in .21, cause it doesn't work for me |
| [02:28:55] | hachi: | I set up an SD lineup, but it doesn't include frequency numbers |
| [02:29:04] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [02:29:10] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [02:29:22] | hachi: | so I have to scan, and scanning gives me channels like '138#4' which should actually be '47' |
| [02:29:27] | hachi: | ok, I'll try |
| [02:29:28] | hachi: | no harm |
| [02:30:00] | kormoc: | might want to ask the -users list, folks on there actually run that vs my random attempts over the years to play with it |
| [02:31:52] | hachi: | oh sweet, TCP Keepalives will catch when my network does dumb things like 'go away' :) |
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| [02:57:42] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
| [02:57:56] | mattwj2002: | any danger of having the mythtv directory on ntfs? |
| [02:58:28] | wagnerrp: | not particularly |
| [02:58:58] | mattwj2002: | awesome |
| [02:59:00] | mattwj2002: | :) |
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| [03:01:39] | Beirdo: | natanojl: if you could pop in a ticket, I'd much appreciate it |
| [03:02:29] | Beirdo: | I gotta say, I am NOT happy with the thumbnails made by mythgallery |
| [03:02:50] | Beirdo: | they look out of focus...blurred... like I'm drunk |
| [03:02:57] | Beirdo: | and I'm not |
| [03:05:31] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Beirdo, do you plan to be? |
| [03:05:41] | Beirdo: | not today |
| [03:05:47] | mattwj2002: | the thumbnails for video sucks too |
| [03:05:49] | Beirdo: | too hot for beer |
| [03:06:12] | Beirdo: | I actually want to drink stuff that LOWERS my body temp :) |
| [03:06:19] | Beirdo: | ice water... |
| [03:06:40] | Beirdo: | yeah, but those are a lot better than the ones made by mythgallery |
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| [03:07:05] | Beirdo: | these are hideously blurry in some cases |
| [03:07:40] | Beirdo: | well, I'll give this #8250 a shot |
| [03:07:50] | Beirdo: | but I think it will break stuff |
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| [03:08:58] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:09:07] | Beirdo: | 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED |
| [03:09:13] | Beirdo: | there's a great start |
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| [03:15:14] | Beirdo: | anyone here with a digital camera that can do raw mode? |
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| [03:29:43] | hachi: | can I run the mysql server on something not the master backend? |
| [03:29:51] | hachi: | or is everything keyed on that for it being the master backend? |
| [03:32:34] | wagnerrp: | you can run the mysql server where ever you want |
| [03:32:53] | hachi: | do all of the nodes still need to be able to reach it? |
| [03:32:59] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [03:33:01] | hachi: | k |
| [03:33:53] | hachi: | how about changing the IP address of the master backend? is that purely a config change in the frontends and slave backends, or do I need to worry about data store problems as well? |
| [03:34:12] | hachi: | I can understand having to move the recordings, but I dont' know about anything else |
| [03:34:29] | wagnerrp: | the IP address is in the first page of the first section of mythtv-setup |
| [03:34:41] | wagnerrp: | everything is indexed off the hostname |
| [03:34:53] | wagnerrp: | so if your hostname does not change, you dont have to do anything |
| [03:34:59] | hachi: | k |
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| [03:41:04] | Beirdo: | anyone know how to tell lircrc to bind a remote button to Alt-M? |
| [03:42:03] | hachi: | do any of you folks use a sony PS3 remote for mythtv? |
| [03:42:18] | hachi: | not looking for help, looking for opinion of it |
| [03:46:05] | Maliuta: | Beirdo: no, but I can give you a remote that does it as a keyboard press |
| [03:46:17] | Beirdo: | heh, no thanks |
| [03:46:34] | Maliuta: | digitech xc8449 ... biggest waste of $25AU in the last week |
| [03:46:58] | Maliuta: | _every_ key is atx-? or ctrl-? |
| [03:47:46] | Beirdo: | got it |
| [03:47:50] | Beirdo: | ALT+M |
| [03:47:54] | Beirdo: | too obvious |
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| [03:49:16] | sphery: | Beirdo: and modified keys from LIRC work again, now :) |
| [03:49:30] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:49:32] | Beirdo: | works |
| [03:49:47] | Beirdo: | set Alt+M to jumppoint to main menu |
| [03:50:05] | Beirdo: | and tested that #8250 is indeed useful and correct |
| [03:50:18] | sphery: | cool, I do the same with all my custom bindings--always use modifiers since most all unmodified keys are already mapped somewhere |
| [03:50:37] | Beirdo: | gonna map the livetv, etc buttons on my MCEUSB remote too |
| [03:50:49] | Beirdo: | never got around to it |
| [03:50:53] | sphery: | Beirdo: it's actuall useful and works, but it's not the correct fix that gbee wants in there |
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| [03:51:10] | Beirdo: | I used the Red button for Main Menu |
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| [03:51:12] | sphery: | it's a hack--we currently have one of those in mythvideo, but with this approach, we'll need the same hack over and over |
| [03:51:30] | Beirdo: | oh? does his proposed fix require the mythui stuff? |
| [03:52:05] | sphery: | his fix fixes the mythui stuff |
| [03:52:08] | Beirdo: | I'm fine with doing it differently if there's a better way |
| [03:52:27] | Beirdo: | umm, mythgallery isn't *using* mythui yet :) |
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| [03:52:39] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/416632#416632 refs gbee's message... still looking for his |
| [03:52:42] | Beirdo: | that I know of |
| [03:53:15] | sphery: | well, whatever it is the "just send a ton of escapes" approach is the hack |
| [03:53:26] | sphery: | so don't know details of it |
| [03:53:57] | Beirdo: | OK, that's how this is done... ton of escaped until you are at the Main Menu, etc |
| [03:54:05] | Beirdo: | escapes rather |
| [03:54:17] | Beirdo: | It can sit for the moment :) |
| [03:54:20] | sphery: | gbee and iamlindoro would know more details... I'll see if I can find gbee's post |
| [03:55:03] | Beirdo: | I know we are going to need to overhaul the internals of mythgallery anyways, so it may not be a huge issue to commit this for now in advance of fixing things "right" |
| [03:55:52] | sphery: | Beirdo: I think it's: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7322#comment:7 |
| [03:56:00] | sphery: | he may have given more details elsewhere |
| [03:56:16] | sphery: | don't know if it was #mythtv or on list (but I'm not seeing anything on list from him) |
| [03:56:40] | sphery: | the hack in mythvideo is one iamlindoro is planning on removing as soon as we fix the actual jumppoint code |
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| [03:57:03] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [03:57:21] | Beirdo: | I will commit this parallel hack in mythgallery, and it will get fixed later too |
| [03:58:13] | sphery: | would be nice to fix it right, though, someday |
| [03:58:24] | sphery: | unfortunately, adding hacks tends to make people think it's fixed :) |
| [03:58:50] | sphery: | maybe we can add the hack for 0.24, then pull the mythvideo and mythgallery hacks both out of trunk right after branching :) |
| [03:59:08] | Beirdo: | well, mythgallery needs an overhaul |
| [03:59:14] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [03:59:24] | Beirdo: | and man do I have my work cut out for me on that one |
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| [03:59:45] | sphery: | yeah, but the thing is, if fixed properly, it would be one small piece of code that fixes all the places that we have the jumppoint "escape" issue |
| [03:59:51] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [03:59:56] | Beirdo: | I hear ya |
| [04:00:20] | sphery: | not that I know details of how to fix it, but I'm imagining based on gbee's description and what little bit of the screen stack code I've seen |
| [04:00:21] | Beirdo: | well, if someone is going to fix it for 0.25, I'd be happy to rip this back out for that |
| [04:00:24] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:00:35] | Beirdo: | but for that to work, I need to use mythui |
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| [04:00:38] | sphery: | yeah, but I think we need to rip the hacks out of trunk so people /know/ it's broken :) |
| [04:00:46] | sphery: | out of sight means out of mind |
| [04:00:58] | Beirdo: | and that's not seemingly on the hitlist for 0.25, but we will see |
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| [04:03:13] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [04:03:25] | Beirdo: | what an appropriate version number for that commit |
| [04:03:27] | Beirdo: | [25666] |
| [04:03:35] | sphery: | heh |
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| [04:17:51] | Beirdo: | OK. |
| [04:18:05] | Beirdo: | #7745 is working just fine as far as I can tell |
| [04:18:43] | Beirdo: | I'm sure there will be requests for more raw picture extensions to be added into the list, but as long as dcraw can handle em... easy to add support. |
| [04:18:57] | ** wagnerrp thinks we need counters on the BadContent filter ** | |
| [04:19:06] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:20:06] | wagnerrp: | see who can get the best score |
| [04:20:20] | wagnerrp: | my insurance regexp seems to be gang busters |
| [04:24:00] | ** kormoc bans .* ** | |
| [04:24:52] | Beirdo: | ah crap |
| [04:25:07] | Beirdo: | I don't WANT to create a flipping setting for icc profiles |
| [04:25:34] | Beirdo: | it should be a setting rather than a compile-time option though |
| [04:25:56] | Beirdo: | I just don't feel like it. |
| [04:26:29] | Beirdo: | I'm committing it without the new setting. Sound like a plan, sphery? ;) |
| [04:26:32] | Beirdo: | #7745 |
| [04:27:02] | high-rez: | You still looking for raw images beirdo ? |
| [04:27:17] | high-rez: | On my d70 i always take everything in raw+jpeg |
| [04:27:21] | Beirdo: | sure, more examples are always a good thing |
| [04:28:17] | ** high-rez waits for digikam to start ** | |
| [04:28:50] | sphery: | Beirdo: heh, sounds like a plan to me |
| [04:29:34] | Beirdo: | sphery: we can setting-ize it properly when we redo settings, or post 0.24 at least |
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| [04:32:27] | high-rez: | Beirdo: Raw image in PM |
| [04:38:18] | Beirdo: | and another ticket bites the dust |
| [04:38:44] | high-rez: | Hey now if multirec wasn't broken you could call it 0.24 and ship it ;) |
| [04:38:57] | ** high-rez ducks ** | |
| [04:39:03] | Beirdo: | hehe, whatever :)( |
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| [04:39:52] | high-rez: | Seriously, its gotten so stable. Been a massive ammount of changes in 0.24 though |
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| [04:40:57] | high-rez: | You have gallery playing raw images now? |
| [04:41:34] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [04:41:38] | Beirdo: | in trunk |
| [04:42:04] | mattwj2002: | I hear hulu support? |
| [04:42:04] | high-rez: | Thats friggin sweet. |
| [04:42:36] | mattwj2002: | in the next version :) |
| [04:42:50] | Beirdo: | natanojl: hulu? in mythgallery? |
| [04:42:58] | mattwj2002: | no in mythtv |
| [04:42:59] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [04:42:59] | Beirdo: | put down your bong, sir |
| [04:43:08] | high-rez: | he likes his favorite shwos one frame at a time |
| [04:43:11] | wagnerrp: | yes, hulu is now supported |
| [04:43:21] | mattwj2002: | in 23.1? |
| [04:43:26] | mattwj2002: | 0.23.1? |
| [04:43:30] | wagnerrp: | trunk |
| [04:43:30] | Beirdo: | but certainly not in mythgallery :) |
| [04:43:45] | mattwj2002: | oh |
| [04:44:00] | kormoc: | mattwj2002, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNetvision#Curr . . . ion_Grabbers |
| [04:44:10] | kormoc: | if only such things were documented |
| [04:46:11] | sphery: | Beirdo: heh, thought I was in -users when I said that :) |
| [04:46:35] | mattwj2002: | is there an easy way to add the trunk version using ubuntu |
| [04:46:37] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:46:43] | mattwj2002: | without compiling :) |
| [04:46:43] | Beirdo: | it's still development |
| [04:47:13] | high-rez: | Man so many people are afraid of configure and make |
| [04:47:33] | tgm4883: | autobuilds maybe? |
| [04:47:34] | mattwj2002: | I am not afraid of it |
| [04:47:45] | mattwj2002: | I just hate dependency hell |
| [04:47:57] | mattwj2002: | last time I tried that is what happened |
| [04:48:18] | high-rez: | Well, if you got it working last time you probably have all the dependencies sorted out ;) |
| [04:48:47] | mattwj2002: | I suppose I could do sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [04:48:47] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [04:49:01] | Beirdo: | high-rez: if you want raw support in mythgallery, you need to have dcraw installed, BTW :) |
| [04:49:02] | mattwj2002: | what the heck I'll give it a try |
| [04:49:03] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [04:49:17] | high-rez: | About the only thing that requires a new version of anything for trunk is mythweb – which requires php 5.3 |
| [04:49:30] | high-rez: | (which I didn't actually see documented anywhere but figured out the hard way : -) |
| [04:49:52] | Beirdo: | ooh boy, my free ride time is almost over. |
| [04:49:55] | high-rez: | Beirdo: Not a problem :) |
| [04:50:00] | Beirdo: | recordings starting at 10pm :) |
| [04:50:00] | high-rez: | You have a free ride? |
| [04:50:18] | Beirdo: | so until 10, I can bring the backend up and down at will |
| [04:50:21] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:50:26] | high-rez: | Hah |
| [04:50:43] | mattwj2002: | free ride? |
| [04:50:44] | high-rez: | Do you need some extra old hardware for testing?> |
| [04:52:40] | high-rez: | I've almost got everything good to go to get my ion based standalone myth server prepped as a slave backend |
| [04:53:29] | Beirdo: | define "old hardware" :) |
| [04:53:29] | kormoc: | high-rez, it's documented in the INSTALL file, the commit that changed it, talked about on the -dev list... :P |
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| [04:53:50] | mattwj2002: | are all the mythtv extras in one package? |
| [04:53:53] | Beirdo: | if yer gonna recycle it anyways, I'd be happy to take it off yer hands |
| [04:53:57] | high-rez: | kormoc: Clearly in all of the places I never would have looked. |
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| [04:54:18] | high-rez: | (read:documentation : -) |
| [04:54:31] | Beirdo: | documentation??? oh no! |
| [04:54:32] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:54:57] | mattwj2002: | read? |
| [04:55:04] | mattwj2002: | what is that? |
| [04:55:04] | sphery: | So, it may be that we've gotten to the point where Trac is "full" (i.e. add much more and we'll never find anything), but I think as http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7515#comment:10 proves, it's not a problem... No one should ever have to create a new ticket, anymore--they can just open old ones whenever something somewhat close happens. |
| [04:55:04] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [04:55:26] | Beirdo: | grrr |
| [04:55:37] | mattwj2002: | just kidding |
| [04:55:42] | high-rez: | Beirdo: I'll have to go look in the garage. I got a ton. |
| [04:55:43] | mattwj2002: | I'll take a look :) |
| [04:56:12] | Beirdo: | high-rez: hehe, well let me know, I may be interested in some to-be-recycled stuff |
| [04:56:31] | Beirdo: | and I'm a lot closer to the recyclers once I'm done with em too |
| [04:56:32] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:56:45] | kormoc: | Mr. I_Have_Room_For_A_Rack_Or_Two |
| [04:56:54] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:57:01] | Beirdo: | not quite THAT much room |
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| [04:57:23] | kormoc: | heh |
| [04:57:39] | sphery: | well, on the bright side, Beirdo is working through a lot of tickets tonight |
| [04:57:42] | mattwj2002: | anyone have an extra hdhomerun I'll gladly take that off their hands if they have no use for it ;) |
| [04:57:43] | kormoc: | I'm half considering knocking another 80–100 sqft off my next apartment |
| [04:57:55] | sphery: | good to get them closed out (especially those really old ones) |
| [04:58:02] | mattwj2002: | that actually happened to a buddy of mine! :D |
| [04:58:09] | Beirdo: | kormoc: smaller? yeah, I guess you could pull it off, but I like my space :) |
| [04:58:10] | sphery: | wow, 372 open |
| [04:58:12] | sphery: | nice |
| [04:58:30] | Beirdo: | sphery: yeah, the old ones that just need testing... I want em gone :) |
| [04:58:31] | kormoc: | 368 of which are mine |
| [04:58:36] | ** kormoc shifty eyes ** | |
| [04:58:39] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:58:51] | mattwj2002: | 368? |
| [04:59:06] | kormoc: | Beirdo, it forces me to be more zen and I like that |
| [04:59:13] | sphery: | yeah, only 4 bugs in MythTV and 368 in MythWeb ;) |
| [04:59:21] | Beirdo: | ahh, that's a good thing at times, yeah |
| [04:59:24] | mattwj2002: | haha |
| [04:59:24] | sphery: | we're almost done with MythTV, now |
| [04:59:41] | kormoc: | Version 1.0 here we come! |
| [04:59:53] | kormoc: | paired with version 0.0.1 alpha 5 |
| [04:59:57] | kormoc: | *mythweb version |
| [05:00:21] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:00:52] | mattwj2002: | dang it |
| [05:01:01] | Beirdo: | almost got my ticket list down to a screenful again |
| [05:01:13] | mattwj2002: | I hate when I try to stick a usb thumb drive in the NIC port |
| [05:01:15] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [05:01:15] | sphery: | kormoc: which requires PHP 5.5 |
| [05:01:39] | kormoc: | of course! |
| [05:01:56] | sphery: | (best way to reduce the number of bugs submitted is to make the code impossible to run/test) |
| [05:02:01] | Beirdo: | and nuvexport... requiring perl 6 |
| [05:02:03] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:02:06] | sphery: | heh |
| [05:02:14] | sphery: | nuvexparrot |
| [05:02:28] | Beirdo: | oooh, that should be my next victim... nuvexport... |
| [05:02:54] | Beirdo: | or maybe the mythweather setup pages on Metallurgy |
| [05:02:58] | kormoc: | nuvexparrot sound like a monty python sketch |
| [05:03:04] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:03:17] | Beirdo: | it's not dead, it's just sleeping! |
| [05:03:20] | sphery: | !parrot kormoc |
| [05:03:49] | sphery: | I should really go to sleep, but I really want to watch a 2nd episode of FlashForward tonight |
| [05:03:55] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:03:58] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Isn't that show off the air? |
| [05:04:24] | sphery: | yeah, I usually delete a show once it's cancelled, but this was a full season and in a genre I like |
| [05:04:36] | mattwj2002: | !trout sphery |
| [05:04:36] | ** MythLogBot slaps sphery with a trout on behalf of mattwj2002... ** | |
| [05:04:40] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [05:04:49] | sphery: | heh |
| [05:05:27] | Beirdo: | OK, let's compile this mess again so I have a frontend with all those changes. Danke |
| [05:05:56] | sphery: | compile again... sounds so anti-ccache |
| [05:06:15] | Beirdo: | oh, ccache speeds it up significantly :) |
| [05:06:36] | Beirdo: | but I install into different prefixes based on branch, and I do a branch per ticket. |
| [05:07:37] | Beirdo: | and I wanna delete the old install dirs |
| [05:10:51] | Beirdo: | oh, here's a feature request... I want a key to press when in the program listing to show the fan art with nothing on top of it |
| [05:10:54] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [05:11:01] | Beirdo: | "SHOWBACKGROUND" |
| [05:11:18] | wagnerrp: | recordings dont have fanart |
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| [05:11:29] | Beirdo: | reeealllly |
| [05:11:41] | Beirdo: | then what's that behind the program listing? |
| [05:11:52] | wagnerrp: | the UI just makes a guess at where the fanart might be stored |
| [05:11:58] | Beirdo: | right |
| [05:12:00] | Beirdo: | whatever |
| [05:12:02] | wagnerrp: | and if it actually exists there, thumbs up! |
| [05:12:15] | Beirdo: | I want a key to be able to show JUST what the background is |
| [05:12:21] | Beirdo: | I don't care how it found it :) |
| [05:12:23] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:12:33] | Beirdo: | I know, jamu grabs them for me |
| [05:12:42] | wagnerrp: | that it does |
| [05:12:44] | Beirdo: | but whatever, you know what I mean |
| [05:12:56] | Beirdo: | I wanna see the pretty picture :) |
| [05:13:14] | wagnerrp: | i dont think any improvement will be done with recording fanart until recordings actually properly support fanart |
| [05:13:23] | wagnerrp: | planned change with the recording database rework |
| [05:13:28] | wagnerrp: | you can prod sphery on that one |
| [05:13:47] | wagnerrp: | Capt'M had a schema worked up, but i think sphery was going to run with it |
| [05:13:48] | Beirdo: | this isn't a fanart request, really, it's a "hide the program listing" request ;) |
| [05:13:52] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [05:14:10] | sphery: | the initial schema changes are likely to go in shortly unfreezing trunk |
| [05:14:13] | Beirdo: | I look forward to that for simplifying nuvexport too |
| [05:14:30] | sphery: | unless we delay then for other focuses |
| [05:14:52] | Beirdo: | which we may well do |
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| [05:37:20] | Beirdo: | OK, UPnP patch time |
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| [05:38:35] | hachi: | UPnP patch? |
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| [05:39:26] | hachi: | fish? |
| [05:40:25] | Beirdo: | go fish? |
| [05:41:25] | Beirdo: | workin #8353. Wonder if it will help my TV too. :) |
| [05:42:44] | Beirdo: | of course, it's gonna mess up a branch I'm working on, but that's my problem and won't stop progress |
| [05:43:20] | Beirdo: | and I have to wait another hour before trying it |
| [05:56:09] | mattwj2002: | !trout hachi |
| [05:56:09] | ** MythLogBot slaps hachi with a trout on behalf of mattwj2002... ** | |
| [05:56:14] | mattwj2002: | !trout Beirdo |
| [05:56:14] | ** MythLogBot slaps Beirdo with a trout on behalf of mattwj2002... ** | |
| [05:56:17] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [05:56:32] | Beirdo: | !salmon mattwj2002 |
| [05:56:32] | ** MythLogBot plants a salmon upside the head of mattwj2002 on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [05:56:35] | hachi: | uhm |
| [05:56:45] | hachi: | the reason I said this is because 'ghoti' is pronounced 'fish' |
| [05:56:45] | mattwj2002: | nice |
| [05:57:03] | Beirdo: | yeah well. |
| [05:57:19] | Beirdo: | have a trout anyways |
| [05:57:21] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:57:46] | Beirdo: | they are good for ya |
| [05:58:10] | Beirdo: | the beatings will continue until morale improves. |
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| [05:59:50] | mattwj2002: | !stabs Beirdo |
| [05:59:56] | mattwj2002: | on that doesn't work |
| [05:59:57] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [05:59:59] | Beirdo: | now now |
| [06:00:24] | mattwj2002: | !trouts mattwj2002 |
| [06:00:32] | mattwj2002: | !trout mattwj2002 |
| [06:00:32] | ** MythLogBot slaps mattwj2002 with a trout on behalf of mattwj2002... ** | |
| [06:00:37] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [06:02:02] | ** MythLogBot slaps mattwj2002 with a Don't Abuse Me trout on behalf of The_Trout_God... ** | |
| [06:02:11] | flexy: | I'm setting the acpi wake up for my dedicated mythtv box. I'm following the guide at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ACPI_Wakeup and little unusure about line "Command to set Wakeup Time: sudo sh -c "/usr/bin/setwakeup.sh $time" " because of $time. is that correct? line earlier time format is time_t |
| [06:02:32] | mattwj2002: | O_o |
| [06:02:39] | mattwj2002: | did it do that on its own? |
| [06:02:45] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [06:03:07] | mattwj2002: | oh wait |
| [06:03:14] | mattwj2002: | The Trout God did it |
| [06:03:34] | mattwj2002: | there is no trout god! O_o |
| [06:03:34] | Beirdo: | yay |
| [06:03:42] | Beirdo: | record high today in Seattle |
| [06:03:45] | Beirdo: | 95F |
| [06:03:53] | flexy: | it still sets the wake up time, but cat proc/driver/rtc gives me "alrm_date: ****-08-**" and does not specify the day of month... |
| [06:03:57] | mattwj2002: | sounds like recent weather in Minneapolis |
| [06:04:09] | mattwj2002: | it was cool tonight though |
| [06:04:14] | Beirdo: | flexy: sorry, dunno, man |
| [06:04:33] | kormoc: | it's still 89 at 11 pm in my apartment |
| [06:04:46] | mattwj2002: | 89 inside? |
| [06:04:48] | mattwj2002: | :O |
| [06:04:49] | flexy: | Beirdo: ok. first time though... :) you've been quite helpful so far :) |
| [06:04:57] | ** mattwj2002 recommends AC ** | |
| [06:05:14] | Beirdo: | I don't turn my box off, it's on 24/7, so never figured out the sleep stuff. |
| [06:05:21] | kormoc: | Yeah, nothing like spending a few hundred dollars for a AC unit that's worth using four days a year |
| [06:05:30] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:05:38] | Beirdo: | maybe 5 or 6 max :) |
| [06:05:48] | mattwj2002: | yeah my last electric bill was about $160 because of AC :( |
| [06:05:57] | Beirdo: | we had a few toasty days late june/early july IIRC |
| [06:06:04] | Beirdo: | then today, tomorrow, Monday |
| [06:06:11] | Beirdo: | hardly worth getting AC |
| [06:06:12] | flexy: | I earlier had openwrt box to send wakeonlan packets. converted to the bios wake up system. |
| [06:06:14] | mattwj2002: | I won't even tell you how much juice I sued |
| [06:06:17] | mattwj2002: | *used |
| [06:07:22] | ** MythLogBot connects with the head of mattwj2002 with a Don't Abuse The Planet! salmon on behalf of The_Energy_God... ** | |
| [06:07:30] | hachi: | why does the mythconverg mysql schema specify 'FLUSH PRIVILEGES' after the grant lines? |
| [06:07:46] | kormoc: | hachi, cause if you don't, they don't apply until you restart the mysql server |
| [06:07:46] | mattwj2002: | fine I'll tell you guys |
| [06:07:50] | hachi: | the FLUSH PRIVILEGES is only for if you update the priv tables manually, n |
| [06:07:57] | mattwj2002: | one moment |
| [06:08:04] | kormoc: | hachi, no, it's required after any grant statement |
| [06:08:08] | hachi: | no it's not |
| [06:08:12] | kormoc: | yes, yes it is |
| [06:08:15] | hachi: | go read the docs |
| [06:08:15] | ** Beirdo wonders which staffer is playing with the bot ;) ** | |
| [06:09:07] | kormoc: | hachi, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/adding-users.html |
| [06:09:14] | hachi: | As an alternative to CREATE USER and GRANT, you can create the same accounts directly by issuing INSERT statements and then telling the server to reload the grant tables using FLUSH PRIVILEGES: |
| [06:09:20] | hachi: | right on that page you just plugged |
| [06:09:21] | kormoc: | hachi, "With CREATE USER, FLUSH PRIVILEGES is unnecessary." |
| [06:10:04] | Beirdo: | hachi: arguing mysql with kormoc is fun to watch, but pointless :) |
| [06:10:24] | hachi: | I'm a mysql DBA, I never issue flush privileges |
| [06:10:40] | hachi: | it's a joke at my work because only people who don't use mysql much think it's necessary |
| [06:10:47] | Beirdo: | uh huh |
| [06:11:42] | hachi: | When you create accounts with INSERT, it is necessary to use FLUSH PRIVILEGES to tell the server to reload the grant tables. |
| [06:12:19] | Beirdo: | blah blah blah. just flush it anyways |
| [06:12:24] | Beirdo: | just like the toilet. |
| [06:12:29] | mattwj2002: | well my bank |
| [06:12:49] | mattwj2002: | 's bill pay isn't working right now |
| [06:13:02] | mattwj2002: | I think it was over 1300 KWh |
| [06:13:04] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [06:13:24] | mattwj2002: | one second I'll see if I have a paper copy |
| [06:13:57] | kormoc: | Yeah, I just don't use mysql much... |
| [06:14:00] | kormoc: | whatever |
| [06:14:17] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [06:15:17] | flexy: | pissing contest :) |
| [06:15:48] | mattwj2002: | that is 1.3 MWh |
| [06:15:50] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [06:15:51] | mattwj2002: | :-s |
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| [06:55:00] | Big_D_271: | how does one test if vdpau is enabled? |
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| [06:56:19] | Beirdo: | another one bites the dust |
| [06:59:19] | hachi: | hmm |
| [06:59:21] | hachi: | 2010-08–14 23:58:58.183 MythBackend: Running as a slave backend. |
| [07:00:01] | hachi: | how does mythtv know if it is the master or not? |
| [07:00:14] | hachi: | cause mine appears to be connecting to itself as a slave of itself |
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| [07:03:40] | hachi: | ahh, IP matching, I guess |
| [07:03:48] | clever: | hachi: it will see if its the master or not by doing a dumb string compare of its own ip and the master ip |
| [07:03:57] | hachi: | k, yeah |
| [07:04:02] | hachi: | thanks |
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| [07:15:50] | Beirdo: | Player(0): Timed out waiting for free video buffers. |
| [07:16:07] | Beirdo: | OK, that needs to go away... that's from a commflagging run |
| [07:16:14] | Beirdo: | not from playback |
| [07:17:20] | Beirdo: | yay! |
| [07:17:30] | Beirdo: | my ticket list fits on one page! |
| [07:19:01] | hachi: | as long as you're on a downward trend while saying that, then yay :) |
| [07:19:22] | Beirdo: | most definitely |
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| [07:24:06] | Beirdo: | OK, that's enough for me today |
| [07:24:26] | Beirdo: | night all |
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| [09:57:57] | zplinux: | hi all |
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| [09:58:30] | zplinux: | does anyone uses xvmc on nvidia? all I could find in google is that this didnt work so well |
| [09:58:40] | zplinux: | but these posts where old |
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| [10:04:17] | RogerM: | zplinux: Think the prefered way with nvidia is through VDPAU if your card supports it.. |
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| [10:04:26] | RogerM: | leave even |
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| [11:51:04] | zplinux: | does anyone uses xvmc on nvidia? all I could find in google is that this didnt work so well |
| [11:51:37] | zplinux: | I am using an AGP pc , so I can't use the VDRAU stuff |
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| [11:56:17] | TestGuy: | hi all – can anyone explain what the new reordered_opaque stuff does? |
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| [12:01:46] | wagnerrp: | zplinux: xvmc only accelerates mpeg2 decoding |
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| [12:01:50] | wagnerrp: | and then only partially |
| [12:02:28] | wagnerrp: | and then you can do everything it may help you with in processor on anything built in the last 5–6 years |
| [12:03:34] | wagnerrp: | its only worthwhile if youre trying to do HD, and you have a low-to-mid AthXP or P4 |
| [12:03:44] | wagnerrp: | the higher end stuff can handle it all in software |
| [12:03:52] | wagnerrp: | and the older stuff cant be helped |
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| [12:08:38] | k-man: | how can i schedule to record a season of movies that are on in a particular timeslot each week? |
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| [12:10:16] | zplinux: | oh thank you wagnerrp |
| [12:10:51] | wagnerrp: | zplinux: xvmc puts some heavy restrictions on the OSD when in use |
| [12:11:00] | wagnerrp: | and should not be used if possible |
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| [12:12:34] | phoniclynx: | Hey guys... I've got a question about MythTV FrontEnd.... I have two comptuers.. one acting as a frontend/backend and another just as a frontend... there are also 6 tuners in the backend and each card setup to record 2 each if avaliable. When the Backend records is choses card 0/0. So does the front end when it wants to stream live TV. How do I make the Front end choose a card further up so I don't get the dreaded do you wi |
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| [12:13:39] | zplinux: | I just wished there was a volume setting for each channel |
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| [12:19:20] | phoniclynx: | anyone? |
| [12:20:55] | TestGuy: | phoniclynx: if you hit the menu button on the frontend you can change the card that you're watching |
| [12:21:27] | phoniclynx: | i understand that.. but I don't want to have to do that every time i go into the live TV.. I want to be able to set it up as default to go to another card |
| [12:22:04] | TestGuy: | I think the frontend always chooses the lowest card that isn't recording |
| [12:22:47] | phoniclynx: | well thats stupid.. one of them should chose a card thats not being used.. becuase the backend wants to always override the one thats broadcasting live tv |
| [12:23:07] | phoniclynx: | but not the next avaliable free one |
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| [12:24:06] | TestGuy: | one cool thing about open source software is that you can always submit a patch for a feature that you want |
| [12:24:34] | phoniclynx: | the one down side about that.. is you have to know how to code to be able to do that :P |
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| [12:29:19] | stoffel: | phoniclynx: there's a setting for the frontend to use tuners that are less often used for recordings, i just don't remember the options name |
| [12:29:47] | phoniclynx: | if you think of it stoffel, it would be great to know about :) |
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| [12:35:03] | stoffel: | phoniclynx: try this: "Avoid conflicts between live TV and scheduled shows" checkbox (found in Setup->TV Settings->General on the first page) |
| [12:35:17] | stoffel: | phoniclynx: found it there: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . _for_live_TV |
| [12:35:21] | phoniclynx: | on the front end or backend? |
| [12:35:33] | stoffel: | frontend i'd guess |
| [12:36:51] | phoniclynx: | I think u hit the nail on the head there stoffel.. there are two options there.. "Avoid conflicts between live TV and sceduled shows" and under that "Allow live TV to move scheduled shows" which says if enabled, scheduled recordings will be moved to other cards (where possible), sot hat live TV will not be interrupted. |
| [12:37:58] | phoniclynx: | i moved it.. and it automatically went to card 5/0.. well done :D |
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| [12:39:16] | the-FoX: | hi |
| [12:40:21] | the-FoX: | i got a problem playing audio cds on mythmusic. the playback stops after ca. 15sec and than reloades. mythfrontend logs WriteAudio: Buffer underrun |
| [12:40:27] | the-FoX: | and dmesg shows me: http://pastebin.com/ThsGrQH4 |
| [12:40:49] | the-FoX: | but playing audio cds with mplayer works fine. any ideas/solutions what's wrong with mythtv? |
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| [14:04:06] | trumee: | guys, i am try to use radio using my Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1110 card |
| [14:04:25] | trumee: | i tried mplayer -ao alsa radio://99.25 but there is no audio coming through the speakers |
| [14:05:03] | trumee: | There is something about it in the linuxtv-wiki, Sound redirect (sox or arecord) is required if you use Tvtime or Xawtv, Mplayer,Mythtv can use the sound directly. |
| [14:05:11] | trumee: | http://cvs.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1110 |
| [14:05:34] | trumee: | anybody aware how to get sound out of the card? |
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| [14:41:55] | vortexx: | Hi, I've got a problem using mythtvfrontend on gentoo with 2.6.35. I can't seem to get the screen surface used by the frontend (and thus tv image ) to go beyond 640x480 when my screensize is 1366x768. I tried changing things under setup/appearance but to no avail. This problem cropped up only since mythtv setup my dvb-t card |
| [14:41:58] | vortexx: | any ideas? |
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| [15:09:29] | SNIFFER_dog: | On this webpage: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-4000 it shows a lidt of items you should find under Identification. What do you type in the BASH to get this list up? |
| [15:09:43] | SNIFFER_dog: | *lidt = list |
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| [16:56:34] | tgm4883: | Are there usually RC's for point releases such as 0.23.1? |
| [16:57:14] | wagnerrp: | we dont normally do point releases, so theres not really much of a plan in place |
| [16:57:49] | wagnerrp: | although generally whatever was added in the point release (to necessitate the release) was implemented and tested somewhat thoroughly in trunk |
| [16:57:59] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [16:58:24] | wagnerrp: | with the last one, there wasnt really time to do a RC anyway |
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| [16:58:38] | wagnerrp: | since the change had already gone in |
| [16:58:52] | tgm4883: | stupid small netbook keys |
| [16:59:15] | tgm4883: | ok, just trying to fix the trunk checking in mythbuntu-repos |
| [16:59:25] | tgm4883: | figured out that 0.23.1 isn't a number |
| [17:00:31] | tgm4883: | so since 0.23.1 even if there was an RC for that wouldn't really be trunk, would it seem fine not to warn the user they have selected 0.23.1 when 0.23 was the official latest release? |
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| [17:00:41] | tgm4883: | this seems to be a small thing that would rarely happen |
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| [17:02:59] | kormoc: | Yeah, the only time we do a point release is when we have to do a protobump/db protobump or it's just collected enough fixes to warrant one, so we're intending them to update to the point release |
| [17:04:00] | tgm4883: | ok then, i'll just drop the .1 then from the warning check and just display if they select current release + 0.01 |
| [17:04:11] | tgm4883: | thanks |
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| [17:16:55] | Gibby1313: | I noticed the accuweather script gone from mythweather now, i downloaded it and put in the place it was, got it working on 2 front ends but the other front end doesn't recognize it, i made sure the permissions are correct, am I missing something? |
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| [17:28:30] | wagnerrp: | the accuweather script violates their site's TOS, and as such was removed |
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| [17:32:23] | wagnerrp: | cant i just... delete all these MythTV VM threads? |
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| [17:33:46] | Pluribus: | I am making a large new filesystem for mixed myth / general storage what is the current reccomendation for Myth Storage? XFS or EXT4? (or something else?) |
| [17:34:18] | wagnerrp: | XFS and ZFS are the 'tried and true' file systems |
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| [17:34:33] | wagnerrp: | EXT3 works, if youve got slow delete enabled |
| [17:34:45] | wagnerrp: | EXT4 has only been available for about a year, dont know much about that one |
| [17:35:05] | wagnerrp: | i think all of the major distros have switched over to that as their default |
| [17:36:03] | kormoc: | I use jfs for recordings only |
| [17:36:36] | kormoc: | xfs has data loss issues with hard power cycles |
| [17:36:47] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, VM threads? Voice Mail? |
| [17:37:59] | Pluribus: | That is primarily my concern. I have also heard that XFS doesnt do so well with lots of small files. (My old array was XFS but was video storage only the new 10TB array is initially going to be general storage and videos...) |
| [17:38:30] | trumee: | anybody ha experience of tuning fm-radio? |
| [17:38:33] | kormoc: | I use ext3 for general storage, but 4 should be stable enough |
| [17:38:53] | trumee: | fm -d /dev/radio0 -T forever on 97.4 doesnt work, but mplayer -ao alsa radio://97.4 -radio device=/dev/radio0 does!! |
| [17:39:07] | Pluribus: | Cool, I will try ext4. and let you all know how it does. |
| [17:39:09] | trumee: | i tried radio -c /dev/radio0 -f 97.4 -q also, but it didnot work |
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| [17:39:18] | trumee: | dont know what magic is mplayer doing |
| [17:39:44] | trumee: | is there any way to query the tuner frequency? |
| [17:40:00] | trumee: | v4l-info /dev/radio0 doesnt give out that info. |
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| [17:57:37] | Gibby1313: | so there is nothing else i can use for maps for the us? |
| [18:06:06] | Beirdo: | Gibby1313: accuweather was never in SVN to my knowledge |
| [18:07:30] | Gibby1313: | hmm, well i got it working on 2 of the frontends even after the update, trying to get the other one working |
| [18:07:39] | Beirdo: | can't help you |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | there are weather maps available from weatherunderground |
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| [18:08:33] | Beirdo: | the ones from the weather channel are gone |
| [18:08:52] | Beirdo: | TOS violation (as best as we could tell). |
| [18:09:11] | Gibby1313: | hmm, i know the admin's at accuweather, i will work on an exception |
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| [18:10:42] | Beirdo: | as I said... accuweather was not in svn, that's some third-party script that I haven't ever seen, and I'd want to be VERY sure that it meets TOS before considering adding it |
| [18:10:59] | Gibby1313: | ok, i willwork on getting it approved |
| [18:12:01] | RogerM: | If I get any errors while running lupdate when creating the ts-files should I report them or will a dev walk through the i18n directories? |
| [18:12:04] | Beirdo: | absent a supplemental agreement in writing with AccuWeather. |
| [18:12:18] | Beirdo: | yeah, we can't use it without prior written agreement |
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| [18:14:26] | Gibby1313: | i guess maps were never from accuweather. i was quite confused.... |
| [18:15:01] | Gibby1313: | it would be nice to incorporate this into the accuweather script: http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/kiosk2/ |
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| [18:16:35] | Beirdo: | just use the other providers, I don't see why people insist on using accuweather, they are no better or worse than the others as far as I've seen |
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| [18:17:15] | Gibby1313: | correct, i guess i wan't using accuweather it was the weather.com maps i was missing |
| [18:17:38] | Gibby1313: | trying to find one that gives the best maps for south carolina... and weather.com got the closest but it was still zoomed out alow |
| [18:17:44] | Gibby1313: | alot |
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| [18:19:25] | Beirdo: | weather.com is a goner. :) |
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| [18:19:35] | Gibby1313: | TOS also? |
| [18:19:40] | Beirdo: | umm, one sec |
| [18:19:44] | Beirdo: | yeah. |
| [18:19:52] | Beirdo: | let me see if I can find you soemthing |
| [18:20:22] | Gibby1313: | that would be nice, trying to set up the maps on a dozen or so frontends so we can watch the storm movement |
| [18:22:01] | Beirdo: | OK, searching for Durham or Raleigh should get you one, but it's marked as being down for maint. |
| [18:22:23] | Gibby1313: | ok, i will try one of those, i was trying columbia/richland and charleston |
| [18:22:29] | Gibby1313: | county would be perfect |
| [18:22:43] | Beirdo: | Morehead City has one |
| [18:23:09] | Gibby1313: | hmm neverheard of that one |
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| [18:23:48] | Beirdo: | http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=MHX |
| [18:23:54] | Beirdo: | that would be the map you'd get |
| [18:24:30] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [18:24:39] | Beirdo: | my bad, I read NORTH Carolina |
| [18:24:40] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:24:46] | Beirdo: | let me look again in south |
| [18:25:22] | Beirdo: | Charleston should work |
| [18:25:41] | Beirdo: | http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=CLX |
| [18:25:44] | Beirdo: | get you that |
| [18:26:42] | Beirdo: | Columbia should get http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=CAE |
| [18:27:07] | Beirdo: | that gets pretty much the whole state |
| [18:27:18] | Gibby1313: | I know, I try searching for columbia and CAE but nothing |
| [18:27:27] | Gibby1313: | most of the other screens for weather grab CAE |
| [18:27:30] | Beirdo: | you are using trunk? |
| [18:27:43] | Gibby1313: | nope, it was autobuilds for mythbuntu |
| [18:27:56] | Beirdo: | that should be trunk... |
| [18:28:13] | Beirdo: | not sure exactly when, but this hasn't changed for a while |
| [18:28:16] | Beirdo: | gimme a sec |
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| [18:28:56] | wagnerrp: | sphery: this might interest you... intels got some low power stuff on their future lineup http://gizmodo.com/5613237 |
| [18:29:46] | Beirdo: | OK, what broke? |
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| [18:30:34] | Beirdo: | Undefined subroutine &main::mkpath called |
| [18:30:36] | Beirdo: | whaaa? |
| [18:30:45] | Beirdo: | who broke my script and how? :) |
| [18:31:35] | Beirdo: | is it logging any errors in the frontend log? |
| [18:31:53] | wagnerrp: | what script? |
| [18:32:09] | Beirdo: | wunderground.pl |
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| [18:32:53] | wagnerrp: | robert goulet |
| [18:33:00] | Gibby1313: | gonna be few before i look again, working a server down issue at work |
| [18:33:01] | wagnerrp: | while you were asleep, he messed with your stuff |
| [18:33:14] | Beirdo: | Gibby1313: no prob |
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| [18:33:38] | Gibby1313: | i did get a static from wunderground for columbia but can't find any animated |
| [18:34:11] | Beirdo: | there's no animated until Captain_Murdoch finishes with the animated GIF support |
| [18:34:33] | Beirdo: | then it should work pretty quickly |
| [18:36:14] | ThisOtherGuy: | Hi all – can anyone exlpain what the new "reordered_opaque" stuff does – I've been seeing it in the commit logs a bunch |
| [18:38:32] | Beirdo: | haha |
| [18:39:04] | Beirdo: | it was due to my many prefixes. dumped the weather db contents, and now I see the script again |
| [18:39:07] | Beirdo: | whew |
| [18:40:27] | Beirdo: | OK, it does work |
| [18:41:19] | trumee is now known as zzztrumee | |
| [18:41:21] | Beirdo: | I think I'm gonna tweak Arclight again |
| [18:41:31] | Gibby1313: | so wunderground has no animated maps yet? |
| [18:41:42] | Beirdo: | put the weather maps on the right side main part instead of the left bar |
| [18:41:56] | Beirdo: | Gibby1313: it has them, but myth can't display them yet |
| [18:42:01] | Beirdo: | really really soon :)( |
| [18:42:35] | Gibby1313: | ahh ok makes sense, i just copied the weather channel scripts over until then |
| [18:42:38] | Beirdo: | hopefully before 0.24. Captain_Murdoch has the code nearly there, and my script for it will take maybe 20 min to fix up once it is |
| [18:43:23] | Beirdo: | hopefully the old weather channel script (unsupported) still works for ya until then |
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| [18:43:51] | Gibby1313: | i think it will, if not, i will work on the accuweather giving us "permissoin" to use the stuff they put on kiosk's |
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| [18:44:06] | sphery: | wagnerrp: cool--and real chips, too |
| [18:45:32] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I'm also wondering how Ontario will turn out--supposedly Athlon II X2 250 perforamnce with an ATI GPU (DirectX 11) for 18W total. |
| [18:46:03] | Beirdo: | well, for the scripts to get into mainstream (not someone's personal home scripts), we need to have clear indication that our use is within TOS. |
| [18:46:09] | wagnerrp: | impressive, would be especially nice if ATI finially has their act together with video drivers |
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| [18:46:20] | Beirdo: | they called the chip Ontario?! |
| [18:46:27] | Beirdo: | what's next, Manitoba? |
| [18:46:58] | Beirdo: | granted, it was probably *designed* in Ontario (which is where ATI was HQd) |
| [18:47:10] | sphery: | Beirdo: um, Llano, of course :) |
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| [18:47:45] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:47:52] | sphery: | technically, though, Llano will be the first fusion chip (but it's a quad core) |
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| [18:48:50] | Gibby1313: | does mythvideo do encoding? I know it doesn't for UPNP but what about to a regular front end? |
| [18:49:03] | sphery: | Ontario will be more of a system-on-a-chip than Llano, but Llano will also have integrated CPU and GPU in one chip package |
| [18:49:05] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo only exists on the frontend |
| [18:49:15] | wagnerrp: | you want it to encode to itself? |
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| [18:49:44] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo does encompass mythdvd, which will encode dvd rips |
| [18:49:54] | wagnerrp: | but it does not have access to the jobqueue for using user jobs on videos |
| [18:50:35] | sphery: | Beirdo: Do you want to delete this recording, eh? |
| [18:51:02] | Beirdo: | heheeh |
| [18:51:08] | sphery: | perhaps I shouldn't be the one to do the en_CA translation... |
| [18:51:17] | Beirdo: | gotta work "Hoser" in there somewhere too |
| [18:51:26] | sphery: | heh |
| [18:51:30] | sphery: | and aboot |
| [18:51:48] | Beirdo: | nah, that's only if a silly Yank does it |
| [18:51:53] | Beirdo: | we don't say aboot |
| [18:51:57] | Beirdo: | you only think we do |
| [18:52:02] | sphery: | oh, I see |
| [18:52:05] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:52:10] | sphery: | I thought those northwesterners did |
| [18:52:37] | Beirdo: | funny enough, Toronto and Hollywood have nearly identical accent |
| [18:52:49] | Gibby1313: | well i have a bunch of mkv videos and some won't play through myth |
| [18:52:50] | Beirdo: | and Seattle's not far off either, eh? :) |
| [18:53:29] | wagnerrp: | Gibby1313: got a better description than simply 'wont play'? |
| [18:53:57] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo either accesses the files directly, or accesses them through the backend file access |
| [18:53:58] | Gibby1313: | ahh not really, i am not worried about those yet, getting weather and zoneminder working are first |
| [18:54:01] | Gibby1313: | and then music |
| [18:54:03] | sphery: | but hollywood's accent is generally a learned-for-hollywood midwestern "neutral" accent |
| [18:54:16] | wagnerrp: | either way, the frontend player is the only process that does any handling of the video |
| [18:54:34] | Gibby1313: | ok, so maybe i don't ffmpeg on those then |
| [18:54:38] | Beirdo: | sphery: I credit the huge number of Canadians in Hollywood, and the amount of Hollywood CRAP we watch in Canada |
| [18:54:47] | wagnerrp: | the backend has no streaming transcoding support |
| [18:54:50] | Beirdo: | but anyways :) |
| [18:54:53] | sphery: | heh |
| [18:55:31] | sphery: | funny thing is that I come from just around the area with the neutral accent, and several people have asked me if I'm from Canada |
| [18:55:33] | Gibby1313: | ahhh ok makes sense now, i thought the backend "streamed" it to the frontend, but it just provides the file and the frontend plays it...... |
| [18:55:54] | wagnerrp: | it can stream the files |
| [18:55:54] | Beirdo: | sphery: you are... Florida's part of Canada in the winter |
| [18:56:01] | sphery: | heh, true |
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| [18:56:11] | wagnerrp: | but its basically a duplication of the normal file access calls but through myth protocol |
| [18:56:24] | sphery: | wikipedia actually has an article on the neutral accent, complete with a map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_American . . . ral_American |
| [18:56:26] | wagnerrp: | just read/write/seek |
| [18:56:55] | Gibby1313: | i already disbled the upnp in myth and i am using ps3mediaserver on the backend to stream to my upnp clients |
| [18:56:56] | Beirdo: | Iowa? |
| [18:56:57] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:57:02] | sphery: | yeah |
| [18:57:15] | wagnerrp: | Gibby1313: this is completely independent of anything UPNP |
| [18:57:27] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has its own socket protocol for talking to backends |
| [18:57:30] | Beirdo: | definitely NOT Chicago though, at least they got that right |
| [18:57:36] | sphery: | the central part of the country, where the accents all mixed in and so no one really hears an accent in the speech--regardless of which accent the listener has |
| [18:57:41] | Gibby1313: | yes that i figured out :) |
| [18:58:12] | Beirdo: | sphery: I'm sure someone from the deep south would hear an accent of some sort |
| [18:59:13] | sphery: | Beirdo: heh, they do show GA as being very similar to Canadian |
| [18:59:21] | sphery: | (see Characteristics) |
| [18:59:36] | Gibby1313: | anyone have mythzoneminder working? i got it working but it turned everything greenish |
| [18:59:40] | Beirdo: | depends on the part of Georgia and the part of Canada |
| [18:59:49] | sphery: | GA meaning General American |
| [18:59:55] | sphery: | (the neutral accent) |
| [18:59:57] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [18:59:58] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:00:06] | sphery: | which confirms your "same accent as hollywood" |
| [19:00:12] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [19:00:14] | sphery: | very similar\ |
| [19:00:24] | Beirdo: | of course, you get Newfie accent |
| [19:00:27] | sphery: | except for sorry and a couple others :) |
| [19:00:35] | Beirdo: | and other Maritime... like GreyFoxx :) |
| [19:01:23] | sphery: | heh, I haven't noticed his accent in here or on list :) |
| [19:02:22] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah well |
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| [19:03:35] | awalls: | Sometimes vocabulary gives away region: |
| [19:03:43] | awalls: | Soda vs. Pop |
| [19:04:15] | Beirdo: | more often than not |
| [19:04:21] | Beirdo: | or "eh?" :) |
| [19:04:43] | Beirdo: | or idioms that you don't even think of but use all the time |
| [19:04:47] | ** awalls never uses eh ** | |
| [19:05:37] | Beirdo: | sure, hoser :) |
| [19:05:40] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [19:05:58] | Beirdo: | of course, I lived in the Ottawa Valley for a while... it's even more odd there |
| [19:06:34] | awalls: | Southern Maryland has a unique oath: |
| [19:06:56] | awalls: | Dee By God Captain! |
| [19:08:21] | Beirdo: | ugh... a Nickelodeon Cruise? complete with a man-sized Sponge.... |
| [19:08:41] | ** Beirdo needs to get drunk to even consider the concept ** | |
| [19:10:00] | awalls: | Um no, more like "God's Wounds!" |
| [19:10:29] | awalls: | Mostly used by the watermen. |
| [19:10:59] | Beirdo: | that's another breed to themselves |
| [19:11:15] | ** awalls nods ** | |
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| [19:20:10] | two_dimensions: | hey all. |
| [19:20:48] | two_dimensions: | so, i'm hoping that someone will be able to help me. have set up a myth-tv box, and got *almost* everything working. |
| [19:21:45] | sphery: | Wow, 0.20 user on the list |
| [19:22:03] | Beirdo: | sphery: they still exist? woulda thought they'd be extinct by now :) |
| [19:22:08] | two_dimensions: | recording, everything all good. only prob i'm having is with live tv. when i change channels, the display will often be completely garbled, and won't go back to normal until i change to another channel |
| [19:22:11] | sphery: | heh, they should be |
| [19:22:20] | two_dimensions: | looks like this – http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=a9sjli&s=4 |
| [19:22:25] | sphery: | we need to step up our extermination efforts |
| [19:22:46] | sphery: | two_dimensions: what Playback Profile group? |
| [19:23:09] | ** sphery guesses you're using OpenGL renderer and shouldn't be ** | |
| [19:23:23] | two_dimensions: | sphery: tried them all, but best looking/performing is High Quality |
| [19:23:49] | two_dimensions: | not using opengl (at least don't think so) |
| [19:24:03] | sphery: | I highly recommend you start with Slim and then only add additional stuff once you figure out that what you have is working |
| [19:24:08] | two_dimensions: | tried turning on the opengl frame sync thing iirc, and that didn't help. |
| [19:24:13] | ** Beirdo flings things at the TV. I don't wanna hear about Dora the stupid Explorer ** | |
| [19:24:32] | ** two_dimensions checks settings for $opengl_stuff... ** | |
| [19:24:46] | sphery: | and verify that your video renderer (in all the Playback Profiles in the Playback Profile group) is set to something "simple/sane"--like Xv (not XvMC)) |
| [19:25:07] | sphery: | the OpenGL vsync is probably ok |
| [19:25:15] | RogerM: | two_dimensions: Look in the recording profiles for LiveTV and see if it's correct.. |
| [19:25:17] | wagnerrp: | when was 0.20? |
| [19:25:31] | wagnerrp: | 0.20.2 was the SD switchover, which was mid-2007? |
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| [19:25:55] | two_dimensions: | it's using qt for the paint engine, not opengl. is that the right place to look? |
| [19:25:57] | sphery: | two_dimensions: and, yeah, RogerM's advice is good, too, if you're using an analog encoder or frame grabber |
| [19:26:16] | two_dimensions: | (thanks for the help, btw!) :) |
| [19:26:18] | sphery: | two_dimensions: that's the UI painter (not the video renderer) |
| [19:26:35] | two_dimensions: | ah :) |
| [19:26:44] | wagnerrp: | sept11, 2006 |
| [19:26:48] | sphery: | Look at the individual playback profiles within the playback profile groups |
| [19:26:53] | wagnerrp: | so going on 47 months now |
| [19:27:07] | sphery: | wagnerrp: wow, almost 4 years |
| [19:27:09] | wagnerrp: | after 4 years, i would just start fresh with new hardware |
| [19:27:17] | sphery: | yeah |
| [19:27:36] | wagnerrp: | clean install, move the drives, duplicate the database |
| [19:27:59] | sphery: | I have to wonder if he'll blame me when things go wrong after my "challenge"--"Should be able to get an upgrade to 0.23 finished in under a day..." |
| [19:28:18] | sphery: | I did recommend using another computer to set up |
| [19:28:27] | two_dimensions: | ah right. ok, found the vid renderer bit under the playback profiles bit like u suggested, sphery. |
| [19:28:37] | two_dimensions: | so u reckon go for xv-blit? |
| [19:28:41] | sphery: | yeah |
| [19:28:48] | sphery: | though I wouldn't recommend editing the example profiles |
| [19:28:53] | sphery: | I'd make a custom one if you're editing |
| [19:29:00] | sphery: | or just use Slim (which is xv-blit) |
| [19:29:06] | two_dimensions: | ah right... |
| [19:29:14] | Beirdo: | I'll blit you... |
| [19:29:18] | sphery: | two_dimensions: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles has more info |
| [19:29:45] | sphery: | yeah, we /really/ need to more understandable names for those |
| [19:29:53] | two_dimensions: | yeah, looked at that page, but got a little lost :) |
| [19:30:02] | sphery: | (in the UI, that is--don't care what dat we store) |
| [19:30:02] | two_dimensions: | heh, agreed |
| [19:30:04] | sphery: | data even |
| [19:30:09] | two_dimensions: | r |
| [19:30:17] | ** two_dimensions tries with Slim ** | |
| [19:30:44] | RogerM: | two_dimensions: Is it digital or analogue recordings? |
| [19:30:57] | two_dimensions: | hmmm. first channel tried – success. second – crappy diagonal lines :( |
| [19:31:17] | two_dimensions: | RogerM, it's a dvb-t card. nova 500 |
| [19:31:34] | sphery: | two_dimensions: ok, what video card? |
| [19:31:50] | two_dimensions: | but the card's fine – if u hit record while the screen is garbled then watch back the recording, it's fine... |
| [19:31:51] | sphery: | I'm starting to think it's the video card/drivers |
| [19:32:14] | sphery: | is it an ATI or nvidia or ... |
| [19:32:20] | two_dimensions: | vid card is ati radeon 2100, with latest drivers. |
| [19:32:25] | sphery: | :) |
| [19:32:28] | sphery: | had a feeling |
| [19:32:35] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:32:38] | two_dimensions: | has worked a treat with xbmc for best part of a year. |
| [19:32:55] | sphery: | two_dimensions: OK, now I suggest you try OpenGL video renderer |
| [19:33:13] | ** two_dimensions begins to worry that there's a bad feeling 'bout ATI here.. ;) ** | |
| [19:33:21] | two_dimensions: | ok, will try that now... |
| [19:33:43] | sphery: | I love ATI--use it on all my computers, /except/ my mythfrontend system :) |
| [19:33:48] | awalls: | Herring-bone lines on analog video indicates an FM interferer |
| [19:33:53] | Beirdo: | OK, recompiling after dist-clean |
| [19:33:54] | RogerM: | two_dimensions: Open Source of propietary drivers? |
| [19:34:13] | Beirdo: | awalls: *can* indicate |
| [19:34:33] | sphery: | Could also be a guy in an old suit? |
| [19:34:33] | awalls: | Ok |
| [19:34:42] | two_dimensions: | RogerM: proprietary, iirc. |
| [19:34:46] | Beirdo: | I'm sure there are other possible causes :) |
| [19:34:48] | awalls: | Lol |
| [19:35:14] | two_dimensions: | sphery, heh, so i'll make a note to uas nvida next time |
| [19:35:18] | Beirdo: | I <3 my mythtv setup |
| [19:35:19] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:35:42] | two_dimensions: | shall i just leave no deinterlacers on my custom profile, then? |
| [19:36:00] | SNIFFER_dog: | On this webpage: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-4000 it shows a list of items you should find under the heading: Identification. What do you type in the BASH to get this list up? Please. |
| [19:36:14] | sphery: | two_dimensions: no, set up some deint--like kernel or linear blend |
| [19:36:21] | two_dimensions: | k |
| [19:36:25] | sphery: | basically something like Slim but with opengl painter should be good |
| [19:36:43] | sphery: | Good luck with it. My stomach says it's time to go to the grocery store, so I'll leave you in others' capable hands. |
| [19:36:57] | Beirdo: | my stomach agrees |
| [19:37:15] | Beirdo: | was just considering going to the restaurant next door, in fact |
| [19:38:02] | awalls: | /sbin/lspci -nv |
| [19:38:23] | two_dimensions: | sphery: fuckin a. \o/ |
| [19:38:29] | two_dimensions: | works a treat. |
| [19:38:43] | two_dimensions: | wil play around for best settings etc, but looks good |
| [19:39:02] | wagnerrp: | watch the language in this channel |
| [19:39:19] | ** two_dimensions apologises. :) ** | |
| [19:39:31] | Beirdo: | will be back in a bit |
| [19:39:40] | two_dimensions: | just happy to get this working – been bugging me for over a week now. |
| [19:39:43] | ** Beirdo leaves the ceremonial trout with wagnerrp ** | |
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| [19:41:47] | ThisOtherGuy: | Hi all – has anyone seen this when using the new vdpau ui renderer: http://pastebin.com/7X7a3dDf |
| [19:42:03] | ThisOtherGuy: | after exiting playback, the screen just stays black |
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| [19:50:25] | wagnerrp: | man, someone /really/ wants to sell auto insurance on trac |
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| [19:54:10] | ** RogerM wonders if there actually is one that follows those links.. ** | |
| [19:55:51] | tank-man: | all it takes is one fool to follow the link, then they can look at the logs and know they are successful in reaching out to potential customers |
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| [19:57:13] | wagnerrp: | no, (nearly) all spam gets picked up by trac's auto-filter |
| [19:57:26] | wagnerrp: | might see some spam slip through once a month or two |
| [19:57:55] | RogerM: | it sure would be a lot nicer if the compile didn't spew out so much text. More like the kernel kompile. Just one line. Any errors would stand out a bit more I think. |
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| [19:59:00] | wagnerrp: | that 'spewing' is just every command it runs |
| [19:59:01] | RogerM: | compile.. |
| [19:59:21] | wagnerrp: | thats normal behavior for most Makefiles |
| [19:59:34] | wagnerrp: | its the rare software package that doesnt do that |
| [20:01:00] | RogerM: | wagnerrp: I know... but it still is a bit annoying.. but not enough annoying for me to come up with a patch for it.. Maybe sometime.. |
| [20:01:25] | wagnerrp: | whats annoying about it? |
| [20:01:41] | wagnerrp: | if it errors, you want to know exactly where the error was |
| [20:01:51] | wagnerrp: | if it doesnt, just ignore that mess entirely |
| [20:02:00] | RogerM: | wagnerrp: maybe not annoying.. call it estetics.. It looks much nicer without it.. :) |
| [20:02:25] | wagnerrp: | check out gentoo, or other source-based installers |
| [20:02:43] | wagnerrp: | they wrap the compilation of each individual program |
| [20:02:48] | wagnerrp: | and only print out errors |
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| [20:08:16] | tank-man: | im interested in that info as well :) it could help me, I want to run "nice someScript.sh" |
| [20:08:41] | wagnerrp: | its python, not bash, its its anything but trivial |
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| [20:16:24] | RogerM: | time to go.. workday tomorrow.. |
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| [20:33:24] | neal_: | hey guys...I in the process of starting to build a htpc and was wondering how well boxee integrates with myth these days? I need the OTA/Cable tuner and PVR functions of myth and like the online content boxee provides...do they work well together? |
| [20:33:55] | neal_: | Also, is there anyway to record content you'r watching from boxee like you would record from myth |
| [20:34:16] | wagnerrp: | why do you need the online content boxee has access to? |
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| [20:36:02] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend has internal access to much of the same online content |
| [20:36:21] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/MythNetvision#Current_ . . . ion_Grabbers |
| [20:36:24] | neal_: | sorry ..stepped away for a sed |
| [20:36:26] | neal_: | sec |
| [20:36:33] | neal_: | anyways ..i did not know that |
| [20:36:44] | neal_: | i just liked the content boxee provided |
| [20:37:03] | neal_: | i have not used myth yet but being a linux person kinda wanted to go that route |
| [20:37:06] | neal_: | free and all :) |
| [20:37:38] | neal_: | wagnerrp ...thanks buddy |
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| [20:38:06] | wagnerrp: | one of the mythtv users has been fairly prolific in writing grabbers scripts for MNV |
| [20:38:17] | wagnerrp: | i think hes done all but one or two of those listed there |
| [20:38:52] | wagnerrp: | if you see something available in boxee but not mythtv, consider writing a grabber, or put up a request on the feature request wiki page |
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| [20:39:17] | blizzard_: | Question regarding nuvexport |
| [20:39:21] | blizzard_: | trying to use it for the first time |
| [20:39:31] | blizzard_: | it always gives me the following error message |
| [20:39:35] | wagnerrp: | boxee /can/ be called through the mythfrontend menu, if you add some simple edits to the menu XML file |
| [20:39:42] | blizzard_: | Loading MythTV recording info. |
| [20:39:42] | blizzard_: | This host not configured for myth. |
| [20:39:42] | blizzard_: | (No RecordFilePrefix defined for snowball in the settings table.) |
| [20:39:43] | wagnerrp: | but it is not integrated with mythtv |
| [20:39:51] | blizzard_: | and that's it. Cant understand what Im doing wrong |
| [20:39:59] | neal_: | hmmm, is there a way to watch netflix |
| [20:40:04] | wagnerrp: | a few weeks ago, someone put together a script that runs in boxee and lets it access mythtv content |
| [20:40:11] | wagnerrp: | no netflix access in mythtv or boxee |
| [20:40:11] | neal_: | did not see that..perhaps i missed it |
| [20:40:22] | neal_: | i thought boxee had it |
| [20:40:26] | wagnerrp: | not under linux |
| [20:40:36] | wagnerrp: | netflix streaming requires silverlight, which is not available on linux |
| [20:40:42] | neal_: | just winbows hugh :) |
| [20:41:21] | neal_: | again thanks for all your help |
| [20:41:21] | wagnerrp: | you can use it through a rather circuitous route, accessing it through a upnp player and PlayOn running on windows |
| [20:41:26] | wagnerrp: | but thats hardly ideal |
| [20:41:44] | neal_: | i agree |
| [20:43:48] | blizzard_: | help?= |
| [20:43:59] | wagnerrp: | never used nuvexport |
| [20:44:06] | wagnerrp: | nuvexport is designed to be run as a user job |
| [20:44:19] | wagnerrp: | meaning some aspects of it expect that you are running it on a machine configured to run mythtv |
| [20:44:33] | wagnerrp: | you should at minimum open mythtv-setup, and go through the first section |
| [20:44:45] | wagnerrp: | you dont have to set anything, just keep hitting next to populate the default values |
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| [20:47:32] | Beirdo: | yeah, it needs to exist as a "backend" in the db to run nuvexport |
| [20:47:41] | Beirdo: | as opposed to a "frontend" |
| [20:48:04] | ** Beirdo wonders which ticket to attack first ** | |
| [20:50:19] | PMantis: | I just installed a new frontend. the playback on HD broke up every 2–3 seconds, so I turned off the internal NIC, installed an Intel. Networking is OK, since I edited the udev rules for eth0 and ping, etc is OK. However, now, mythfrontend won't open. The log shows lots of "mount: can't find /dev/sde in /etc/fstab...", the same for sdd, sdc, etc. There is NO such device and never was. What;s going on? |
| [20:51:01] | Beirdo: | obviously there is |
| [20:51:23] | Beirdo: | that's more a distro question |
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| [20:52:14] | Beirdo: | OK, 4h before the backend wants to record |
| [20:52:28] | PMantis: | It's a distro question, when mythfrontend is spitting this out in a console? |
| [20:53:03] | Beirdo: | ahh, the frontend is whining, missed that part |
| [20:53:23] | Beirdo: | when your text takes up almost the whole screen, parts get missed |
| [20:53:50] | blizzard_: | trying |
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| [20:53:58] | blizzard_: | its on my headless backend server |
| [20:54:01] | PMantis: | LOL, Isn't netiquette to keep the info together, rather than using <enter> as punctiation? |
| [20:54:07] | blizzard_: | recordings etc works fine |
| [20:54:20] | blizzard_: | My guess is that it needs to be "added" as a frontend as well |
| [20:54:21] | wagnerrp: | PMantis: mythtv does not try to mount hard drive |
| [20:54:26] | wagnerrp: | nor does it read /etc/fstab |
| [20:54:30] | Beirdo: | hmm, you don't say which version of mythtv you are using, it may have been something old |
| [20:54:35] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is not spitting that out into the logs |
| [20:54:42] | blizzard_: | im using .23–1 |
| [20:54:47] | blizzard_: | nuvexport 5.something |
| [20:54:56] | blizzard_: | grabbed the latest nuvexport to be on the safe side |
| [20:55:25] | blizzard_: | scripts like mythlink works without a prob |
| [20:55:31] | Beirdo: | good for them |
| [20:55:32] | PMantis: | wagnerrp, I open a console, type "mythfrontend" and this is what I see. It sure seems that myth is spitting this out to me. |
| [20:55:35] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:55:47] | wagnerrp: | what distro are you running |
| [20:55:51] | Beirdo: | blizzard_: what is the exact error message? |
| [20:56:19] | wagnerrp: | PMantis: ^^^ |
| [20:56:24] | PMantis: | wagnerrp, mythbuntu |
| [20:56:37] | wagnerrp: | 'mythfrontend' in mythbuntu is not something we ship or support |
| [20:57:02] | blizzard_: | Loading MythTV recording info. |
| [20:57:02] | blizzard_: | This host not configured for myth. |
| [20:57:02] | blizzard_: | (No RecordFilePrefix defined for snowball in the settings table.) |
| [20:57:07] | wagnerrp: | mythbuntu wraps mythfrontend and mythtv-setup with some script that does other stuff |
| [20:57:14] | blizzard_: | nuvexport version: 0.5 0.20100812.svn |
| [20:57:21] | Beirdo: | umm |
| [20:57:34] | blizzard_: | mythtv 23–1 |
| [20:57:36] | Beirdo: | one sec |
| [20:57:55] | PMantis: | wagnerrp, When I run mythfrontend.real, it stops at loading a theme. (XMLParseBase) |
| [20:58:09] | PMantis: | only a green background |
| [20:58:29] | wagnerrp: | PMantis: because the wrapper script sets various environment settings that affect how mythfrontend runs |
| [20:58:47] | wagnerrp: | its set up to run in that environment, and you have not otherwise set it up to run outside it |
| [20:59:22] | PMantis: | Hmm |
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| [20:59:27] | Beirdo: | blizzard_: did you to an upgrade on this machine? |
| [20:59:41] | Beirdo: | do even, not to |
| [20:59:52] | Beirdo: | my fingers are getting illiterate |
| [21:01:35] | PMantis: | wagnerrp, Hmmm, I fixed it with: delete from settings where hostname='mythfront-fam'; |
| [21:02:05] | blizzard_: | beirdo: not really |
| [21:02:19] | blizzard_: | I've never got nuvexport working in the first place |
| [21:02:52] | blizzard_: | I had an old version of nuvexport installed, which had the same error |
| [21:03:11] | blizzard_: | so I upgraded that one to the latest snv version to see if that solved the problem |
| [21:03:12] | PMantis: | Ahhhhhhhh, I think I figured it out... |
| [21:03:14] | blizzard_: | which it didnt |
| [21:03:51] | PMantis: | I turned on "Monitor CD/DVD (and other...)" I have a x in one cardreader in the frontend. |
| [21:04:18] | Beirdo: | well, the error messages you are giving do not exist in trunk. |
| [21:04:19] | PMantis: | So, Beirdo was correct. These are seen as sdc, sdd, sde, etc |
| [21:04:46] | Beirdo: | blizzard_: I'm currently searching in 0.23-fixes |
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| [21:04:53] | sphery: | heh, guess RogerM wanted make -s |
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| [21:05:06] | wagnerrp: | silent? |
| [21:05:23] | wagnerrp: | never looked far enough into the make options to know taht was available |
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| [21:05:42] | sphery: | exactly |
| [21:06:03] | Beirdo: | blizzard_: don't see it in 0.23-fixes either |
| [21:06:26] | Beirdo: | wherever nuvexport is being installed to: remove all of it, and reinstall? |
| [21:06:34] | Beirdo: | I think you may be running half-old code |
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| [21:06:52] | Beirdo: | remove or just rename the dir so it needs to create a new install |
| [21:07:08] | blizzard_: | mythtv@snowball:~$ nuvexport --version |grep version && nuvexport |grep Record |
| [21:07:11] | blizzard_: | nuvexport version: 0.5 0.20100812.svn |
| [21:07:14] | blizzard_: | This host not configured for myth. |
| [21:07:15] | blizzard_: | mmm, must be so |
| [21:07:18] | blizzard_: | (No RecordFilePrefix defined for snowball in the settings table.) |
| [21:07:22] | blizzard_: | a mission for tomorrow, thanks for the help |
| [21:07:36] | Beirdo: | good luck |
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| [21:08:07] | Beirdo: | seems it may be trying to use a MythTV.pm locally rather than the bindings installed with mythtv |
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| [21:13:14] | blizzard_: | uhm? |
| [21:13:36] | Beirdo: | uhm what? |
| [21:13:47] | Beirdo: | the old nuvexport included MythTV.pm |
| [21:13:59] | Beirdo: | the new one doesn't, as it's part of MythTV |
| [21:14:09] | blizzard_: | aaah |
| [21:14:20] | Beirdo: | I'm thinking your new nuvexport was installed on top of the old one and the old file's getting loaded |
| [21:14:39] | Beirdo: | so, just clean the old one right out, reinstall |
| [21:14:44] | Beirdo: | nuvexport that is :) |
| [21:15:04] | Beirdo: | whether you delete it or just rename the directory to disable, whatever |
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| [21:16:23] | blizzard_: | could be so |
| [21:16:55] | blizzard_: | gonna play with strace now :) |
| [21:17:06] | Beirdo: | if you must :) |
| [21:17:06] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:18:33] | blizzard_: | somewhat phun :) |
| [21:20:20] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [21:20:32] | Beirdo: | git decided it was time to run git gc for me |
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| [21:20:50] | Beirdo: | I have been making a spectacular mess of the local repro |
| [21:23:32] | blizzard_: | git gc? |
| [21:23:52] | blizzard_: | what does gc? |
| [21:23:58] | Beirdo: | garbage collection |
| [21:24:17] | blizzard_: | s/?/ do?/ |
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| [21:24:52] | Beirdo: | man git-gc on a box with git installed :) |
| [21:25:27] | blizzard_: | im on my iphone :) |
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| [21:29:02] | Beirdo: | ugh, this code is nasty |
| [21:29:23] | blizzard_: | ah well, sleepy time. gnite |
| [21:29:25] | Beirdo: | I think I'll be reimplementing this |
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| [22:16:44] | Beirdo: | I should do a twupdate |
| [22:16:51] | Beirdo: | nah |
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| [22:24:21] | wagnerrp: | wow, one of these got a -18, must be some kind of record |
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| [22:26:42] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Have you guys seen this? |
| [22:26:43] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | http://thedigitalmediazone.com/2010/08/15/cab . . . ree-content/ |
| [22:27:26] | wagnerrp: | posted a couple minutes ago in the other channel |
| [22:28:07] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | What do you guys think? |
| [22:28:10] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I'm skeptical |
| [22:28:23] | wagnerrp: | same thing weve expected (and supported) for months now |
| [22:28:29] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Good move by Cable Labs, but without carriers agreeing to some standard of what Copy-Freely means, it means nothing |
| [22:28:44] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I had heard my provider codes everything Copy-Never |
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| [22:28:56] | wagnerrp: | 'copy freely' are the same shows that you can record over firewire from your cable box |
| [22:29:07] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Wagnerrp, I can get those with an antenna |
| [22:29:20] | wagnerrp: | if you get a lot over firewire, you can replace three expensive cable box rentals with a $250 box and a cheap cablecard rental |
| [22:29:34] | wagnerrp: | if you get nothing over firewire, then this will do you no good |
| [22:29:48] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Well, that's why I said without some standard, it is useless. |
| [22:30:17] | wagnerrp: | its more likely youll get exactly nothing over firewire, than anything substantial |
| [22:30:17] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | We're counting on lax engineers, rather than better policy. |
| [22:31:04] | wagnerrp: | but yes, apparently 0.24 will support the HDHR prime when it releases |
| [22:31:36] | wagnerrp: | a couple months ago, one of the silicondust engineers saw to that |
| [22:32:20] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | It is days like this I think of dumping cable and going exclusively with broadcast. One step forward, two steps back. |
| [22:32:26] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Maybe I'm a cynic |
| [22:34:04] | wagnerrp: | beirdo: youre from ontario arent you? |
| [22:34:09] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [22:34:16] | wagnerrp: | you should be ashamed |
| [22:34:21] | Beirdo: | why? |
| [22:34:24] | wagnerrp: | bunch of crackpots up there |
| [22:34:25] | ** GadgetWisdomGuru is confused ** | |
| [22:34:35] | Beirdo: | and there aren't down here? |
| [22:34:38] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | I'm lost here |
| [22:34:42] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | What's wrong with Canadians? |
| [22:34:48] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Other than they walk among us? |
| [22:34:52] | wagnerrp: | http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/201008 . . . io-wifi.html |
| [22:34:54] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Sorry, Canadian Bacon reference. |
| [22:34:56] | Beirdo: | !trout GadgetWisdomGuru |
| [22:34:56] | ** MythLogBot slaps GadgetWisdomGuru with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
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| [22:35:22] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Is that for defending Canadians and then subsequently picking on them? |
| [22:35:55] | Beirdo: | URL no workee |
| [22:36:08] | wagnerrp: | http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/0 . . . io-wifi.html |
| [22:36:18] | wagnerrp: | bah, numberpad forward slash wasnt working |
| [22:36:22] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:36:49] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [22:36:57] | Beirdo: | buncha retards |
| [22:37:00] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | The other day, sphery convinced me I need to be more proactive about deleting stuff. I've decided if I haven't bothered to watch it in the two years since I recorded it, I'm getting rid of it. |
| [22:37:25] | Beirdo: | how about the drugs they feed their kids because they are "hyperactive", aka "kids" |
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| [22:38:22] | wagnerrp: | they should simply turn off the system for a week, and not tell anyone |
| [22:38:23] | Beirdo: | my ex-father-in-law would LOVE that article |
| [22:38:34] | wagnerrp: | as they say, the old hardwired connections are still in place to use |
| [22:38:40] | Beirdo: | he likes all sorts of unproven crack-pot crap |
| [22:38:49] | wagnerrp: | what? your child still had a rash this week? |
| [22:38:58] | wagnerrp: | thats funny because our wireless was turned off |
| [22:39:04] | wagnerrp: | boot to the head! |
| [22:39:22] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:39:24] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [22:40:17] | wagnerrp: | make sure to have one running and pointing at the parking lot in the morning for troublesome parents to see |
| [22:40:30] | wagnerrp: | turn it off after school starts |
| [22:40:38] | Beirdo: | nah, just leave the APs there and unplug em |
| [22:40:45] | Beirdo: | the parents can't tell the difference |
| [22:40:58] | Beirdo: | there's a box there, it MUST be nuking their kids' brains |
| [22:40:58] | wagnerrp: | you dont think one of them would bring a laptop to watch it? |
| [22:41:09] | Beirdo: | you think they have the brainpower for that? |
| [22:41:17] | Beirdo: | OK, leave ONE in the parking lot :) |
| [22:41:48] | wagnerrp: | you would be surprised the people i know who dont understand the concepts of radiative power and intensity |
| [22:41:58] | Beirdo: | then blame the parents for nuking their kids in the car on the way to school |
| [22:42:25] | wagnerrp: | wireless devices are rated for what, like 250mW ERP at 1 meter before they need to be licensed? |
| [22:42:35] | Beirdo: | I think so |
| [22:42:38] | Beirdo: | or 100mW |
| [22:42:45] | Beirdo: | I forget which |
| [22:42:47] | Beirdo: | pretty low |
| [22:43:04] | wagnerrp: | your brain does like 40x that when youre zoning out |
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| [22:43:11] | wagnerrp: | more when youre actively trying to solve something |
| [22:43:27] | Beirdo: | not these parents' brains. |
| [22:43:32] | mtrelins: | hi guys, anyone got time to answer a question about Import DVD? |
| [22:43:35] | wagnerrp: | and thats the absorbed power if youre sitting right on it |
| [22:44:14] | wagnerrp: | nevermind the fact that its NON IONIZING... it cant ionize molecules, hence it cant destroy them or damage them in any manner |
| [22:44:40] | Beirdo: | you hush with your real science :) |
| [22:45:44] | Beirdo: | mtrelins: I don't import, can't help ya |
| [22:46:24] | mtrelins: | my optical device is showing up as /dev/sr0... so i can't use hdparm to enable dma... i did an import on 0.23-fixes that i did on 0.21 (the stock ubuntu 9.01 one) |
| [22:46:31] | mtrelins: | this time the import on the same dvd and same hardware |
| [22:46:35] | mtrelins: | slows down and speeds up |
| [22:46:47] | mtrelins: | it'll be like faster in some parts and slow and glitchy in others |
| [22:47:01] | Beirdo: | ubuntu 9.01?! does not compute |
| [22:47:10] | mtrelins: | (i'm not running that anymore) |
| [22:47:19] | mtrelins: | now i'm mythbuntu 10.something |
| [22:47:23] | wagnerrp: | no one is running that, or has that... ever |
| [22:47:24] | Beirdo: | it never existed :) |
| [22:47:27] | mtrelins: | lol |
| [22:47:36] | mtrelins: | yeah well, i upgraded for a reason |
| [22:47:37] | mtrelins: | lol |
| [22:47:48] | Beirdo: | anyways, nit-picking aside... no idea |
| [22:48:39] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: didnt you yell at me last night for confusing the users? |
| [22:48:48] | Beirdo: | heh, yes |
| [22:48:53] | Beirdo: | I guess it's my turn :) |
| [22:52:15] | mtrelins: | i think i figured it out, "sdparm --set=PER /dev/sr0" |
| [22:52:23] | mtrelins: | turns performance mode on |
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| [22:56:59] | wagnerrp: | heh... a couple alternatives out of the slashdot article |
| [22:57:17] | wagnerrp: | sensitivity to poor color output from CCFLs |
| [22:57:40] | wagnerrp: | or mild oxygen starvation from a poorly ventilated lecture room |
| [22:57:42] | AndyCap: | "the size of their brains more closely approximates the size of the wavelength being deployed," |
| [22:57:46] | AndyCap: | umm |
| [22:58:01] | AndyCap: | ah, yes, timmy's got a quarterwave skull |
| [22:59:32] | AndyCap: | "Palmer plans to find alternate schools or even home school his two children this fall if the board doesn't agree to turn off the Wi-Fi" I guess the physics lessons will be interesting. |
| [23:04:16] | wagnerrp: | seems ontario is known for people concerned about the health effects of low frequency sound coming from wind turbines |
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| [23:22:39] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: no, the stupid media in Ontario is known for making a few whackos speak for the millions of non-whackos |
| [23:23:29] | Beirdo: | is mattpyne from #8763 around on IRC? |
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