Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, August 8th, 2010, 00:00 UTC

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high-rez:

That said, how about we just add the mime type application/ogg for .ogx then ?

[00:00:54]

kormoc:

like text/html and application/xhtml+xml and application/xml and text/xml and text/xhtml+xml and text/xhtml and application/xhtml....

[00:00:57]

high-rez:

And I'll just rename my files ?

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kormoc:

i think that's a valid answer

[00:02:03]

high-rez:

(from what I'm reading it appears completely valid to rename my .ogg's to .ogx anyways)

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high-rez:

i'll submit a diff

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Beirdo:

high-rez: put in a ticket for me please.

[01:02:46]

Beirdo:

with those ogg mime types....

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Beirdo:

anyone know how to generate an IFO file?

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Beirdo:

iamlindoro: if you are in... do we have a library sucked into myth already that can CREATE rather than parse IFO files?

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Beirdo:

since you've done a lot of the DVD stuff lately...

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wagnerrp:

check out the mytharchive stuff

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wagnerrp:

it can master DVDs

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Beirdo:

hmmm

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Beirdo:

seems to just call out to other programs (from mythburn.py anyways)

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wagnerrp:

very likely

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patdk-lap:

hmm, finally getting around to getting my frontend setup again :)

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wagnerrp:

does the analog channel lineup grab only work for SD? not XMLTV?

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justinh:

xmltv doesn't have tuning info

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wagnerrp:

they dont even give the channel number? (for analog where a channel number is all the tuning info you need)

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justinh:

I know in the UK they don't. pretty sure they don't elsewhere too

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justinh:

oh man. so much for feeding guidelines anyway

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wagnerrp:

heh... didnt realize you were up at 4AM

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justinh:

up at 2am. last fed at 12am

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justinh:

he had 120ml, supposed to be on 90. we've been putting extra in the bottles so there's less chance of bubbles when he gets near the end

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justinh:

bubbles = air = windy gas

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justinh:

I'm not googling amounts/frequency. I'll just end up terrifying myself

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** Beirdo makes bubbles **

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Beirdo:

ahhhh

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justinh:

heheh

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justinh:

midwife is coming er.. today I guess

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justinh:

I'll ask about this for sure

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justinh:

babies allegedly only take what they want/need.. any extra just gets puked/coughed out

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Beirdo:

just like supermodels

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justinh:

lol

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justinh:

I've not seen much of my son personally today. had so many visitors they've all wanted a hold. and now I've got a crappy shift

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justinh:

he's back to sleep though thank God

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Beirdo:

whew

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justinh:

waiting for the kettle to cool so I can make up some formula. he's been through the real milk reserve we'd set aside

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justinh:

alright for the visitors, they don't have to do this stuff :)

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Beirdo:

hehe

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FredYerkes:

Hello – I'm not seeing any preview images in MythWeb, I don't see errors in the mythweb-error log file or in Firefox, but IE says 'HTMLElement' is undefined.

[02:08:03]

patdk-lap:

hmm, I just can't get my ps3-bd remote working :(

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patdk-lap:

it's working perfectly actually, but it's using the generic mapping, instead of my custom one in /etc/bluetooth/input.conf

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justinh:

well, time to make the feed up then hit the hay again. Zzzzz

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CyberKnet:

newborns are hard, hard work.

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FredYerkes:

CyberKnet: if they're collicky, but try a 3 and 4 year old at each other's throats, that a challenge

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patdk-lap:

ok, got that stuff fixed :)

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patdk-lap:

last issue (that I know of)

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patdk-lap:

I have two sound cards, and alsa keeps randomizing them on boot :(

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patdk-lap:

so I used, ALSA:default:CARD=ICH6 for the audio, to force it

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patdk-lap:

but that same thing, for the mixer doesn't work

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Gibby1313:

What file holds the weather config? I want to sync across all my frontends

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[R]:

none

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[R]:

its in the dbv

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[R]:

db*

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Gibby1313:

so it should be there already on all the frontends?

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patdk-lap:

na, it's per frontend-name :)

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patdk-lap:

but it would be a simple sql command to replicate it :)

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Gibby1313:

I don't like sql lol

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[R]:

well no better time to jump in bed with it

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Gibby1313:

no kidding

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Gibby1313:

someone has had to written a script already to do that I would think

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justinh:

well, I spoke way too soon. darnit

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justinh:

funny but yesterday I was thinking "wth is everyone on about? this isn't so bad". heh

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CyberKnet:

justinh: wake up again?

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mattwj2002:

hi all

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Gibby1313:

I seemed to have lost /usr/share/mythtv/mythweather/scripts/us_nws/animaps.pl where can I get it?

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mattwj2002:

I am doing something kind of crazy but I want to see how well it works

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mattwj2002:

if it doesn't work well I wasted $40 usd

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mattwj2002:

I am going to run my mythtv on server on a cf disk

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mattwj2002:

for the OS part and the recordings on a hard drive

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patdk-lap:

that will kill a cf drive fast

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mattwj2002:

how fast?

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patdk-lap:

depends on the quality of the cf

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patdk-lap:

if it's slc or mlc

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mattwj2002:

not sure how to tell that

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patdk-lap:

if your very careful, it's ok, don't put /tmp on it, don't put /var/log on it, and anything else you can to not write to it

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patdk-lap:

cf's just get such crappy transfer rates though

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mattwj2002:

I hear they have good read rates though

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patdk-lap:

nope

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mattwj2002:

that is what the ide adapter said at least

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patdk-lap:

they have good random read, but still the same normal read speeds

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mattwj2002:

okay

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patdk-lap:

how fast does it write?

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patdk-lap:

or read?

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mattwj2002:

I have no idea it is a 133X CF

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mattwj2002:

if that means anything

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patdk-lap:

yay, 20MB/s :)

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patdk-lap:

read speeds

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mattwj2002:

good bad?

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patdk-lap:

actually, it is 20MB/s write

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patdk-lap:

and atleast 20MB/s read, though could be more

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patdk-lap:

well, a normal harddrive is going do 80–120MB/s

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mattwj2002:

oh

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patdk-lap:

but for myth, I don't see the point

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patdk-lap:

myth doesn't go crazy with drive access

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patdk-lap:

after you boot, everything is basically in memory, drive access doesn't matter

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patdk-lap:

the only thing you get, is random seek speed increase, and only for reads, it will kill random write speeds really badly

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mattwj2002:

I wanted to see how a CF disk preformed

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mattwj2002:

it was a curiousity thing for me

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mattwj2002:

:)

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patdk-lap:

heh

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patdk-lap:

well, if you don't commflag, it would be ok for the db I guess :)

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patdk-lap:

but I like to keep my db in memory at all times, so it would help me there

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mattwj2002:

you want to know something said?

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mattwj2002:

*sad

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mattwj2002:

my OS disk and memory are now the same size!

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mattwj2002:

8 GB haha

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patdk-lap:

heh

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patdk-lap:

my memory is like 2x my os disk size

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patdk-lap:

actually it's worse

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patdk-lap:

5gig disk, 16gig ram

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patdk-lap:

all postfix :(

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mattwj2002:

16 GB of ram? :O

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mattwj2002:

why so much?

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patdk-lap:

postfix

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mattwj2002:

never played with it

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mattwj2002:

:)

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mattwj2002:

my first boot was really fast!

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mattwj2002:

faster than a hd

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patdk-lap:

ya, random reads performance helps on boot

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mattwj2002:

it came up almost instantly

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mattwj2002:

granted that was a first boot

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mattwj2002:

and we are only talking only 8 GB of data

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mattwj2002:

brb I need to make some soda

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mattwj2002:

back

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mattwj2002:

hi wagnerrp

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wagnerrp:

forgot that when im not using VNC, hitting the X in the top corner actually closes the application

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mattwj2002:

wagnerrp you are having vnc issues too?

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mattwj2002:

are you using tightvncserver?

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wagnerrp:

no

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wagnerrp:

i /used/ to use tightvnc

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wagnerrp:

and would leave xchat open in it for weeks on end

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wagnerrp:

but i swiched to xpra (screen for X) and X forwarding

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wagnerrp:

i shut down my desktop, and without thinking, close xchat

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wagnerrp:

instead of closing the vnc session, i actually closed the program

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Gibby1313:

i did that twice in the past 30minutes also

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: do you do UPnP, BTW?

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Beirdo:

my memory sucks :)

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wagnerrp:

used to

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[R]:

i just tried upnp with a ps3... seemed to work pretty good

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wagnerrp:

dont any longer

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[R]:

only watched 1 recording though

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Beirdo:

I have to go and fix the code I just rewrote... to support !linux

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

the streaming is done differently

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[R]:

!linux as in what?

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wagnerrp:

!linux? or windows?

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Beirdo:

OSX, FreeBSD, Windows, etc

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[R]:

bsd?

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wagnerrp:

osx and bsd are different?

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Beirdo:

nope

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Beirdo:

but Linux uses code only Linux can use

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Beirdo:

anyways, I'm stealing code from dvdauthor to make IFO files

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wagnerrp:

ugh....

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** wagnerrp cant wait for displayport **

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Beirdo:

GPL++

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wagnerrp:

s/displayport/snagless connectors/

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** Beirdo snags wagnerrp **

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[R]:

hdmi snags?

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patdk-lap:

ya, I love displayport

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patdk-lap:

hdmi doesn't stay attached :)

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patdk-lap:

atleast displayport locks

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[R]:

does displayport latch or something?

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[R]:

ah

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wagnerrp:

hdmi isnt going to be common on desktops

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** [R] looks up pictures **

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wagnerrp:

most ive ever seen on a computer is one HDMI port per video card

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patdk-lap:

and displayport can daisychain :) upto 4 monitors, or one very large monitor :)

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wagnerrp:

do i use VGA, or the bulky KVM switch as a coupler while waiting for longer DVI cables?

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[R]:

"The DisplayPort website states that DisplayPort is expected to complement HDMI"

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[R]:

how does a competing technology "complement"?

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wagnerrp:

displayport is for computers and monitors

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wagnerrp:

meaning they dont want computer hardware to be constrained by desires of home theater use

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wagnerrp:

capabilities such as daisy chaining are fantastic for computers

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wagnerrp:

but of little use for home theaters

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Beirdo:

which means it won't work with TVs, making it useless :)

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[R]:

what if you want 2 50" tvs side by side with a picture across both!?

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wagnerrp:

[R]: a measurable percentage of the population is now using multiple monitors

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wagnerrp:

how many people have two TVs side by side?

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[R]:

well people can't

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[R]:

so thats why!

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[R]:

haha

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Beirdo:

hmmmm, where to put dvdifo.c

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wagnerrp:

where did i put my monitor power supply?

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[R]:

your monitorh as a power supply?

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[R]:

how old is it?

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wagnerrp:

10 years?

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Beirdo:

unless it has a builtin nuclear generator, of course it does

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wagnerrp:

(external supply)

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[R]:

wow, thats old

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patdk-lap:

heh, some search are just funny

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patdk-lap:

Pinnochio, results, the punisher

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** Beirdo shakes his fist at the computer **

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wagnerrp:

its a beastly thing

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wagnerrp:

has a nice 1.5" bezel

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wagnerrp:

only operates at 1280x1024 and 640x480

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wagnerrp:

no scaler, so anything else it barfs on

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Beirdo:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

and the power supply overheats

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Beirdo:

sounds like a nice boat anchor

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wagnerrp:

so i ended up having to buy a couple nice slot coolers (the big square p3 xeon ones)

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wagnerrp:

zip-tied one on each side

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wagnerrp:

still gets hot, but now it doesnt randomly shut down

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Beirdo:

hehehe

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Beirdo:

wouldn't it be cheaper/easier/smarter to just buy a new monitor?

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wagnerrp:

sure

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Beirdo:

but that's not the way of the stubborn geek :)

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wagnerrp:

but when i buy another monitor, i think to myself... gee, i could always used that as a second/third/fourth monitor...

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

go to an overpass on the freeway

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Beirdo:

and put it into a truck bed

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Beirdo:

remember to run like hell after

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wagnerrp:

it doesnt seem to be coming back on

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wagnerrp:

i /should/ use this as an opportunity to get rid of it

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Beirdo:

yes you should

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Beirdo:

drag it by the VGA cable all the way to the curb

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Beirdo:

:)

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wagnerrp:

considering with the fourth monitor, i seem to have run out of deskspace for the speakers

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Gibby1313:

ok, spent the last hour trying to figure out how to copy the weather settings database from 1 host to another, but kind find it, any guidance would be great! :)

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wagnerrp:

arent weather locations global?

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Gibby1313:

that is what I thought, but the weather plugin is actually installed on each frontend... if ther eis a place to set them globally I haven't found it

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Beirdo:

huh?

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Beirdo:

even multiple frontends still use the same database

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Beirdo:

you will need to setup weather on all frontends for now

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Gibby1313:

ugh.....

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Beirdo:

it will maybe be moved to be in the backend later

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Gibby1313:

quite a pain with a dozen frontends....

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Beirdo:

yeah well.

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Beirdo:

it's old code, it hasn't gotten there yet

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Beirdo:

feel free to make a ticket for me

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Gibby1313:

someone earlier said i should be able to copy the DB for it on the backend

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wagnerrp:

anyone who said 'copy the db' has no idea what theyre talking about

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Beirdo:

I'm not going to suggest you mess with the database

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Beirdo:

it's a lot more likely to work if you set it up via the frontend

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Beirdo:

I know, it's a pain right now

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Gibby1313:

so there isn't any of the weather files I can just rsync across all the frontends?

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Beirdo:

no

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Beirdo:

all the files you need are installed when you install the plugin

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Beirdo:

the rest is database details, and it is currently messy

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Gibby1313:

mmmmk, atleast once loaded I can configure from the web, I did have to roll back to the older weather plugin, lost all the US stuff

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Beirdo:

I haven't tried configuring from the web

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Beirdo:

and I don't know if that will do what you think it will, but you are welcome to try

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Gibby1313:

that is how I set the first up, once it recongized the frontend had the weather plugin

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Beirdo:

k

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gabo2013:

CAN ANYONE HELP ME???

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wagnerrp:

nope

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wagnerrp:

we dont speak caps lock in here

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gabo2013:

sorry

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wagnerrp:

youll have to find a translator

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Beirdo:

ah man....

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Beirdo:

that's it

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gabo2013:

Can anyone help me?

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Beirdo:

libmythdvdauthor will exist.

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wagnerrp:

not unless you actually ask a question

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Beirdo:

I've had enough of cutting more and more and more of the code

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wagnerrp:

ask your question, if no one currently around has an answer, idle for several hours

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wagnerrp:

someone may come in later who has an answer

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gabo2013:

Can anyone here help me? I'm having trouble upgrading.

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wagnerrp:

... still havent asked a question

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gabo2013:

What do you mean?

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wagnerrp:

youre just stating you need help

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wagnerrp:

you havent described what you need help /with/

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wagnerrp:

details

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wagnerrp:

we cannot help without details

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gabo2013:

ok. can anyone help me upgrade my ubuntu? i'm having troubles upgrading, when i click "upgrade" it says its downloading and just stops.

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justinh:

that'd be a question for #ubuntu maybe

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wagnerrp:

so, youre having trouble with your package manager? not mythtv?

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wagnerrp:

the only 'update' tool mythtv has is 'svn up'

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gabo2013:

oh ok. sorry.

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wagnerrp:

no need to apologize

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gabo2013:

ok, one last thing. is "#ubuntu" the chat room name or just an account i talk to?

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wagnerrp:

'/join #ubuntu', or '/join #mythbuntu'

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gabo2013:

what's the difference?

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wagnerrp:

one is the general channel, the other is the specific project that maintains the mythtv packages on ubuntu

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gabo2013:

ok. so what is "mythtv"?

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wagnerrp:

you dont use mythtv?

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gabo2013:

I don't think I do. To be honest, i'm really not sure.

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wagnerrp:

they why did you come in here in the first place?

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Beirdo:

then what ever inspired you to come HERE?

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gabo2013:

i just say that it had a lot of people and it said "welcome to the official user-to-user support channel"

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gabo2013:

**saw

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Beirdo:

heheheh

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wagnerrp:

usually the web page, and the link to the channel rules, and the name give it away

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wagnerrp:

you have to copy/paste that in sections?

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Beirdo:

I did just to be sure

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mattwj2002:

hi guys

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mattwj2002:

can anyone help me with scte65scan?

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mattwj2002:

how do you find the VCT_ID?

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Beirdo:

OK, I have a library now.

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mattwj2002:

anyone know?

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Beirdo:

next task is to abstract an interface on there for myth to use

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mattwj2002:

running ./scte65scan -H FFFFFFFF,0 us-Cable-Standard-center-frequencies-QAM256 was no help

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mattwj2002:

there are 8 to choice from!

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mattwj2002:

*choose

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Beirdo:

process of elimination?

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Beirdo:

not like 8 is a huge number

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mattwj2002:

how do I eliminate though?

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Beirdo:

I don't know, I don't use scte65scan

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mattwj2002:

yeah I have to

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mattwj2002:

clear qam

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mattwj2002:

oops

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mattwj2002:

yeah I have to the clear qam is totally screwed up

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Beirdo:

why do I have the bloody Spongebob Squarepants song stuck in my head?!

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mattwj2002:

hi guys

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mattwj2002:

is the clear qam stuff going to get cleaned up soon?

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mattwj2002:

it never use to be some complex

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mattwj2002:

*so complex

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mattwj2002:

anyone here?

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foobarz:

Has anyone had problems using the ALSA pcm route and pcm multi plugins? They are used in the ~/.asoundrc file to direct audio channels to your speakers the way you want. When I use the route and multi pcm plugins, they appear to cause high cpu usage.

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mattwj2002:

hi foobarz

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mattwj2002:

I have no idea

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foobarz:

hi! how are you today?

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mattwj2002:

I am doing well

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mattwj2002:

I am having issues with clear qam

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mattwj2002:

:-s

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mattwj2002:

I can't get all the channels to line up to the guide

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foobarz:

I have no idea. I don't do any tv recording... I don't even have TV. But I know people in here are pros on HTPC stuff on linux... so I asked my q here

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mattwj2002:

it is all good

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mattwj2002:

I think I figured out how to get all the locals to work

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mattwj2002:

that'll be good enough

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foobarz:

from the wiki: QAM channels may move without notification and some channels may have strange numbering schemes.

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mattwj2002:

yeah qam is a pain

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foobarz:

maybe they move on you, so you can't keep your thing lined up... I'm kind of clueless, but it could be a trick the cable company is playing to make it hard for you to automatically schedule recordings

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mattwj2002:

I got it

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mattwj2002:

I got all of the ota just not all of the basic channels

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mattwj2002:

or I will

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grumpydevil:

dearas

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grumpydevil:

dears, even

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grumpydevil:

i've noticed that in .23 jumping will cause loss of audio sync in many recordings

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grumpydevil:

i that a known problem?

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grumpydevil:

is that a known problem?

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foobarz:

what channel is the videodrome channel? hehe

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mattwj2002:

videodrome?

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mattwj2002:

:P

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mattwj2002:

hey guys I have a question

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mattwj2002:

back in November I wrote this and got this response

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mattwj2002:

It would be great if mythtv could produce a text file transcript of a tv show using the close capitioning information. I am not sure if the close capitioning will have to be OCR'd or not but if that needs to be OCR'd it could be done with GOCR or tesseract. Text format would be awesome. We might also might want PDF, word docs, html, etc. --Mattwj2002 03:58, 7 November 2009 (UTC) If you are in the US, you might want to look at put

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mattwj2002:

anyone know what ccextract is?

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mattwj2002:

I am assuming they mean ccextractor

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blizzard_:

ok

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blizzard_:

question where I only have my self to blame

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blizzard_:

I know that I shouldnt be fiddeling with the database directly

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blizzard_:

but in my inital mythtv usage I removed some filesystem recorded files to "clean up"

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blizzard_:

now I tend to get these error messages where the files are missing in the log files

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blizzard_:

and if I try to "delete" them in the UI, or in Mythweb, it looks ok till it's reloaded and the "recordings" are still there

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blizzard_:

So, question: Which table contains the information about the actual recorded filenames?

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blizzard_:

recorded, doh! =)

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blizzard_:

Where do I set the recording profile?

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blizzard_:

I have a headless backend server which does all the recording

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blizzard_:

it's for transcoding

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grumpydevil:

start myth-setup on that backend, after setting DISPLAY=$host:0.0

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grumpydevil:

you will get the display on $host, provided it allows remote X

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grumpydevil:

most recording profiles can be set from mythfrontend though

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blizzard_:

okee

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blizzard_:

thought that the recording profiles where set by the frontends

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blizzard_:

thats why I got confused since my recording is done on the backend

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blizzard_:

another question

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blizzard_:

My recording works just fine

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blizzard_:

why does my transcoding complain over the recording profile?

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blizzard_:

does it use an additional recording profile?

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Lantizia:

Hey does anyone recognize this media centres case/lcd and can tell me if they think it'll work fine with mythtv? http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Mediacenter+Ran . . . ductId=39968

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Lantizia:

apparently an antec veris is it?#

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Merlina:

yes it's antec veris

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Merlina:

there is no capture card included?

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Lantizia:

nah but I have one already, a hauppauge card

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Lantizia:

hvr1110

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Lantizia:

I guess I'm just interested to know if the LCD will work ok with mythtv out of the box

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Lantizia:

the mobo looks like it's a gigabyte – I'm sure there will be zero to little issues running linux on it

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Lantizia:

or perhaps not a gigabyte :S

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Lantizia:

Merlina, and the dials... it'd be good to know the dials and buttons worked out the box too

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Lantizia:

I think I'll get the case on it's own and build it myself however :S

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Merlina:

hehe

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Merlina:

ok

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Lantizia:

Merlina, you've no idea if it works or not right? :P

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Merlina:

no sry

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Merlina:

google can tell you prolly :)

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iron:

hi there

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iron:

I have a question about volume changing the main menu. Can anyone help me?

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wagnerrp:

you cannot change volume in the main menu

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wagnerrp:

the volume only exists during playback

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iron:

Is it possible to make it possible :) ? (plugin, confing, ...)

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wagnerrp:

someone has a ticket open as such currently

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wagnerrp:

but if theres no audio output, theres no much reason to change the volume

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wagnerrp:

and to be perfectly honest, i doubt most people use the volume in mythtv anyway

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iron:

ah sorry. I confed mythtv to continue the audio playback after returnung to the main menu

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iron:

So I've audio output in the main menu. But i want to change the volume

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wagnerrp:

you mean you have mythmusic continue playback in the main menu?

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iron:

yes

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wagnerrp:

in that case, volume /should/ be available

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wagnerrp:

although ive never done that, i dont really know what happens in that event

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iron:

The key events arrive, but they are not interpreted as volume commands

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iron:

Now, i've added a system event, that will be thrown, if the voulme button is pressed. So its possible to execute a command, when I press the voulme buttons in the main menu. But I'am not sure about which command i should send. Is there a mythtv command, that controlls the volume.

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iron:

?

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iron:

I don't want to modify the alsa mixer settings directly.

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wagnerrp:

system event means you run an external command

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wagnerrp:

such as one to change the volume in the alsa mixer directly

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wagnerrp:

it cannot do anything inside mythtv

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iron:

There is no external command, that controls the internals of mythtv?

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sphery:

iron: You must display the Music Miniplayer and give it focus to change volume

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iron:

@sphery thx

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iron:

sphery: How can display the music mini player while im (for example) show pictures in the gallery?

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artus37:

Hi all

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trumee:

is there any way to record fm radio and stream over the internet?

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trumee:

are there any usb fm tuners or something cheap

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AndyCap:

trumee: there are fmtuners on some framegrabber tv cards, dunno about usb.

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trumee:

AndyCap, i dont have any free pci slots so was looking for usb solution

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paul-h:

iron: set a jump point for "Show Music Miniplayer" so when you press that key combination the mini player will be shown allowing you to control the music player including changing the volume

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trumee:

http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx? . . . 00&af=50

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trumee:

not sure about linux support

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skd5aner:

trumee: several Hauppauge cards have FM tuners (PVR-250s for example). There is not support within mythtv for them, but you could look elsewhere for how to use them.

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skd5aner:

as far as USB radio tuners, this is the most popular one I know of – but again, no support within mythtv: http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/radioshark2

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trumee:

skd5aner, i will probably use vlc to stream

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skd5aner:

not sure about linux support for it

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trumee:

skd5aner, definitely need something with linux support

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justinh:

USB tuner with AM reception? ROFL

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wagnerrp:

skd5aner: i thought the vanilla PVRs didnt have radio tuners, only the MCE variants

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trumee:

i have a vanilla 250 and it doesnt have radio

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itscrimetime:

hey all

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itscrimetime:

no matter what i try i can't get firewire to work in 23.1

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henkpoley:

Where can I find this "security key" that can be found in mythtv-setup according to mythbuntu setup ?

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henkpoley:

Google knows nothing about the phrase "security key" on the mythtv website

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wagnerrp:

that is the PIN that you defined in mythtv-setup

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wagnerrp:

first section, first page

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wagnerrp:

basically, it allows you to tell the backend to listen for UPnP searches, and respond with identification information

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henkpoley:

Well, I have a very much grandfathered system, so I did not setup such a thing, but I'll check on that page again

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wagnerrp:

if a slave backend, or frontend, or perl script, or python script does not have access to the proper database credential file

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henkpoley:

I have already connected mac frontends though

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wagnerrp:

it will try to find the backend over upnp

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wagnerrp:

if one is found, it will connect to the xml server hosted on the backend

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wagnerrp:

and using that pin, will request a copy of the database login credentials

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wagnerrp:

its an autoconfiguration mechanism for additional machines on your network

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wagnerrp:

in ubuntu, i believe it defaults to 0000

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wagnerrp:

so if your backend is running, you can go to http://<backend>:6544/Myth/GetConnectionInfo?Pin=0000

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henkpoley:

Ah doh it's for backend config, lets check with mythbuntu docs if I can skip that safely

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itscrimetime:

anyone know what card this is Hauppauge 61371 ntsc rev B2? is it a pvr 150?

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henkpoley:

My database was started in 2004, so it has a lot of old crufty and unset stuff

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henkpoley:

anyways, yes the settings was there and it works :-)

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itscrimetime:

can anyone tell me what board this is?Hauppauge 61371 ntsc rev B2? is it a pvr 150?

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bcgrown:

hello all

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henkpoley:

itscrimetime: do you have the board with you ?

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itscrimetime:

yes

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henkpoley:

itscrimetime: how about visually comparing layout, or checking PCI parameters, (EEPROM?) etc.

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itscrimetime:

it looks like a pvr 150

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itscrimetime:

but don't show in linux at all

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henkpoley:

Same chips as http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/press/presspic . . . 50_board.jpg ?

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itscrimetime:

no

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henkpoley:

Otherwise same chips as other revisions of the pvr-150 (do they exist?) ?

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wagnerrp:

itscrimetime: no, thats a basic wintv tuner, a framegrabber

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wagnerrp:

not an mpeg encoder

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wagnerrp:

bt878 based

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bcgrown:

i hate to flog a dead horse, but i've got a backend on 0.23-fixes, and an os X frontend on the 0.23-fixes-r25260 build from psychosis.net, but i'm still getting the "version 56" error. do i need a different version of the osx frontend?

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bcgrown:

my 0.23-fixes frontend on xubuntu works fine

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wagnerrp:

0.23-fixes was re-released as 0.23.1, which accompanied a protocol revision bump

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wagnerrp:

you must make sure you have the same version on all systems

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henkpoley:

bcgrown: Let me check my notes

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wagnerrp:

or they will not work together

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henkpoley:

bcgrown: Rev 25356 is the last revision using protocol version 56

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henkpoley:

So you backend and your frontend need to be either higher or lower than that

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bcgrown:

that's what I thought, but the psychosis page says to use the stable version if i get that error, so i was a little confused

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henkpoley:

Cute, after setup of Mythbuntu/Wubi Grub boots back to Windows bootloader

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bcgrown:

so the beta build of the 25374 OS X frontend should work, right?

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wagnerrp:

your backend is running 23056?

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bcgrown:

it's up to date on 0.23-fixes

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wagnerrp:

then yes, any build past that revision should work

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bcgrown:

ok

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henkpoley:

So ubuntu 10.04 now updates to MythTV 0.23.1 ?

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bcgrown:

as a side note, this issue started a nice flame war on the ubuntu forums. haha

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henkpoley:

Good to know

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gizmobay:

I compile and I download using svn. I do an update by just doing a "svn update". How can I tell which url my update is coming from?

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FredYerkes:

Hello – I seem to have lost my MythWeb recordings preview images. The mythweb-error.log doesn't show any issues, they just don't appear in Firefox, but IE has an error --> http://pastebin.com/vEGmkV1F

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bcgrown:

thanks devs for your help:) ciao

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kormoc:

FredYerkes, that's normal (the ie error) and unrelated to the problem

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kormoc:

FredYerkes, check the backend log

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FredYerkes:

kormoc: thanks, bit of a false alarm I guess, my init.d script wasn't stopping the backend when I wanted to add the "-v most" flag to it, so I killed mythbackend and restarted it and low and behold the images returned. It's odd though, since I had tried a reboot earlier which didn't fix it.

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wagnerrp:

lying on your back, screwing something into the desk above you, holding spare screws in your mouth is an /awful/ time to have the urge to sneeze

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sphery:

heh

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

What was it?

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wagnerrp:

on the other hand, keeping your mouth closed as your lungs deflate in a quarter second is a /great/ way to clear your sinuses

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wagnerrp:

s/great/painful/

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sphery:

he's installing a keylogger and an audio transmitter

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wagnerrp:

yes, im hiding them under this keyboard try im screwing in

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sphery:

heh

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

now for my next piece of magic... actually CREATING the IFO file

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sphery:

BUP, BUP, BUP

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Beirdo:

no BUP needed :)

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Beirdo:

just IFO

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Beirdo:

hehe

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sphery:

yeah, was just joking

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Beirdo:

hehe :)

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sphery:

(as the BUP is just the backup of the IFO)

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wagnerrp:

and its a transmitter, not just an offline logger

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Beirdo:

yup

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wagnerrp:

kent, this is jesus, i told you to stop going to those websites

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wagnerrp:

stop playing yourself

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sphery:

wagnerrp: nice... that way you can pick up the info without going back in. Just make sure you remember to change your MAC address, too. Don't want those feds catching on.

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sphery:

wagnerrp: heh, awesome movie

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** sphery is hungry for some popcorn **

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** wagnerrp gets the laser **

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sphery:

need my coords?

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wagnerrp:

no, i can see the retroreflector just fine

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sphery:

:)

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sphery:

should have known a Real Genius wouldn't need help

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wagnerrp:

i never thought about it, but was that used for tracking, or to burn up the laser?

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sphery:

don't know--been too long

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wagnerrp:

because the thing was supposed to burn itself up once it ran out of coolant

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sphery:

In 2007, Val Kilmer expressed an interest in making a sequel to Real Genius, but no shooting dates have been set. A remake of the film is rumored to be in consideration for a 2013 release.[13]

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sphery:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Genius

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sphery:

doesn't mention the reflector, though

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sphery:

wagnerrp: "At the same time, a corner reflector that Chris and Mitch placed outside the window returns part of the beam to the aircraft-mounted laser, destroying it." http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Real_Genius

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wagnerrp:

lasers are so 1980s, the remake uses railguns

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wagnerrp:

the utility of a gigawatt class railgun is endless

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sphery:

lol

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sphery:

but it sure is a lot harder to pop a house full of popcorn with it

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wagnerrp:

erm, gigajoule

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wagnerrp:

yeah... i cant come up with a fun alternative use for that

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AndyCap:

Oh, I like that movie.

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AndyCap:

remake? ohnoes

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Beirdo:

OMG, can they make this any MORE difficult

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Beirdo:

of course, I don't think they ever expected this to be used as a library :)

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__benny__:

Helo! anyone remember yesterday talk about #8742 and r25588. I've been testing today, well let's call it interesting

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__benny__:

on the positive side: LiveTV starts faster, and changing channels goes a lot smother and faster that part is great

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__benny__:

however I still get this msg from mythbackend: "TVRec(1) Error: Channel: '31' was not found in the database." sometimes

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__benny__:

and when switching channels, giving a number, then it shows the previous channel while tuning the one ...

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wagnerrp:

sphery: i wonder if you actually could destroy a laser by returning its own beam

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wagnerrp:

i mean a good laser is going to push maybe 30% of its energy output at the target

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jpabq:

__benny__, Do you want to test a new patch? Give me your email address. You can do it via a private chat, if you want.

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sphery:

wagnerrp: Maybe they just designed it to be able to dissipate just enough of the heat it's generating and the extra from the return beam pushes it over the edge? Next thing you know, RRoD. :)

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__benny__:

I also got new mythfrontend crash, it happen several times today, ends with "pure virtual method called": http://pastebin.com/tEaKDW4H

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__benny__:

I'm working on to catch it with gdb and get some stacktrace

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Beirdo:

I HATE .IFO files

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Beirdo:

I think I'm gonna take a break and go get burgers

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Beirdo:

screw this for the moment :)

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Beirdo:

I have to define a VOB struct

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Beirdo:

and inside that, VOBU struct

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__benny__:

compiling :)

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Beirdo:

Red Robin... yum!

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Beirdo:

be back in a while

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quink:

hello

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quink:

I'm having trouble upgrading mythtv on gentoo, facing dependency problems with Qt and was wondering if anyone can help.

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wagnerrp:

recording groups have passwords?

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wagnerrp:

mythtv wont build? or you cant get a dependency to build?

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quink:

the deps.

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quink:

It wants to install qt 4.6.2 but also 4.5.3

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wagnerrp:

likely you are pulling in an older version of a plugin

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quink:

What is the necessary version? 4.6.2?

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wagnerrp:

i believe 4.4 is the minimum for 0.23

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wagnerrp:

make sure all the plugins you are trying to install are the same revision as the main mythtv ebuild

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quink:

Giving it another go to see what happens.

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wagnerrp:

dont just blindly run 'emerge' again

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wagnerrp:

check the versions it wants to install

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quink:

i didn't the first time.

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wagnerrp:

make sure they match

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quink:

The major version is all matching.

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wagnerrp:

and minor?

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quink:

Not matching.

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wagnerrp:

how close are they?

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sid3windr:

major is "4", heh

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quink:

mythtv-0.23.1_p25496, mythvideo-0.23.1_p25496, mythweather-0.23.1_p25396, mythmusic-0.23.1_p25396

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sid3windr:

oh from myth ;)

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wagnerrp:

should be close enough

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quink:

Hm. For some reason its not bitching about Qt this time.

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kormoc:

emerge -puv world should tell you why nexttime

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quink:

I guess I should give this an hour and see what happens.

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iron:

thx a lot

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I've been thinking about power-savings. Can a frontend wake up a backend on another system, or do I have to do that some other way?

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kormoc:

Yes it can

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I just need to figure out how best to do it.

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

My backend does other things.

[20:41:18]

GadgetWisdomGuru:

For example, I run Mirobridge on it...until Mythnetvision can download stuff in the background.

[20:42:38]

GadgetWisdomGuru:

I experimented with ACPI wakeup a few times, but never coupling in other functions I might want the server to wake up for

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kormoc:

WOL (Wake on Lan) is the stuff you need to setup/lookup

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I know it. It is more figuring out when to prevent the system from shutting down that I need to figure out.

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bjd:

good timing!

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bjd:

i'm buying a new tv and kinda thinking about my backend & new frontend system

[20:51:52]

bjd:

guess if you're waking the backend up remotely you want it to boot pretty quickly

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__benny__:

jpabq: are you there?

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I keep tweaking that too.

[20:53:06]

GadgetWisdomGuru:

But the thing runs 24/7 normally, with drive spindown, and I'm trying to see if I can reduce it.

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Tomas-:

is the DVB-S full-tune and or import of channels.conf broken in 0.23.1=

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Tomas-:

?

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I also shut down the frontends.

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

So, the question is what you mentioned, how to efficiently bring things up and down

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Tomas-:

nevermind

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Bjd, what do you have for backends and frontends?

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wagnerrp:

unicorns

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bjd:

GadgetWisdomGuru: just got a combo front/backend atm – it's an ASUS P5E-VM HDMI board with a Nova-T 500 card

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bjd:

it's dedicated to mythtv so it just shuts down and wakes up as needed

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kormoc:

GadgetWisdomGuru, have the backend auto-shutdown, all those scripts should register themselves with the BE to prevent it from shutting down

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Bjd, my secondary system does that. But here, at my residence, I have always kept the backend on 24/7. I'm looking to change that.

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bjd:

But like I said, I'm getting a new TV so would quite like to make that combo machine the frontend and get a new front/backend that can do VPDAU

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I've upgraded to VDPAU, but I'm still using older hardware otherwise

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I work incrementally

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Kormoc, I have to figure out what to register. Also, Fedora, my distro, uses Anacron over Cron, so it should do any daily tasks, such as backups while the system is up, but I need to read up on whether I want to change the settings.

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I've never felt the need to tweak the default since they switched from cron

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kormoc:

GadgetWisdomGuru, the scripts should register themselves, you shouldn't have to do anything

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Kormoc, I'm thinking of non-myth related things I want to stop a myth shutdown, as the server also does backups and such.

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bjd:

GadgetWisdomGuru: i'm kinda pondering if i can get a backend to run so efficiently it makes sense to leave it on 24/7 :p

[21:14:38]

GadgetWisdomGuru:

Bjd, I've gotten better at that

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Turn on CPU frequency scaling, for one.

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bjd:

Yeah

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Spin down drives when not in use

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

My distro has a great program to do that

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itscrimetime:

anyone ever got firewire to work with mythtv

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I did

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Worked for every channel until TWC upgraded the box software

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Now it works for bubkas.

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itscrimetime:

twc?

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Time Warner Cable

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

AKA The Enemy

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itscrimetime:

i get a error on firewire every time

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bobgill:

I upgraded myth (Arch linux) and I keep getting this: http://pastebin.ca/1913480

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bjd:

you have version mismatches

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bjd:

is it the backend on archlinux?

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bobgill:

I am running two arch boxes, one acts as BE and other is my FE

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bobgill:

first time I ever get this msg

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wagnerrp:

you need to upgrade your backend to match

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bjd:

Yeah, they both need to run the same version

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bobgill:

but I did

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wagnerrp:

your backend is running 0.23, your frontend is running 0.23.1

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kormoc:

restart the backend?

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bjd:

what do we think of a geforce 8200 for vdpau?

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wagnerrp:

can you even buy one in card form?

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bjd:

this is onboard

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wagnerrp:

kormoc: we had a pretty choice user in here last night

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wagnerrp:

bjd: works fine

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wagnerrp:

~11:20pm your time

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kormoc:

wagnerrp, ooh?

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wagnerrp:

comes in here looking for help with ubuntu

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bjd:

cool, ta

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wagnerrp:

apparently he had read the channel list, and come across this channel listed as the 'official user-to-user support channel'

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wagnerrp:

figured this would be the best place to ask

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Isn't this a user-to-user support channel?

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sid3windr:

lol

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wagnerrp:

yes, for mythtv

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itscrimetime:

this is all i get says in system info tuner 1 (firwire) has a error

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wagnerrp:

he hadnt even heard of mythtv, much less know what it was or need user-to-user support for it

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I'm confused. What did they ask for support on then?

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Oh

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wagnerrp:

ubuntu

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bjd:

:D

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GrahamIRC:

quick question if anyone knows: are embedded idx/sub subtitles within an MKV supported by the internal Myth Player?

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wagnerrp:

GrahamIRC: only bitmapped subs

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wagnerrp:

just dont OCR them next time you do a DVD rip

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GrahamIRC:

how would I know the difference?

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kormoc:

that's awesome

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GrahamIRC:

I just pulled the streams out and got IDX/SUB – work ok in VLC

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wagnerrp:

i believe idx/sub subtitles ARE the bitmapped versions

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itscrimetime:

i tested my firewire port with firewire_tester it looks fine but myth says there a error

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AndyCap:

I guess it was dvb that had text subtitling, dvd only supports bitmaps?

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wagnerrp:

correct, dvd is bitmapped only

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GrahamIRC:

yes I figured they might me too, as the sub file is garbage

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GrahamIRC:

ok, so they are showing up as listed in the OSD menu but when I select one....nothing

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GrahamIRC:

any ideas?

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justinh:

missing font

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GrahamIRC:

I thought they were bitmapped subs?

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justinh:

well if they are maybe it's a placement issue

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justinh:

tried looking in mythfrontend log output perchance?

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GrahamIRC:

thanks for the suggestion, I'll have a further dig there. The subtitles are ok in VLC so not sure what I can change if it is a placement issue?

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wagnerrp:

justinh: you were there for the general user-to-user support... any comments? mocking remarks?

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AndyCap:

Ooh, I like. :P "Last but not least, there was a major improvement over x86 Intel DRM drivers that now supports H.264 hardware video decoding for newest G45 GPUs."

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plotino:

hello guys

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plotino:

im italian

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bjd:

unlucky

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plotino:

im trying to use mythtv to watch analog/digital tv

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plotino:

but i dont get the audio yet

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wagnerrp:

are you trying to get the audio with analog or digital?

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wagnerrp:

they are two completely different mechanisms for access

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plotino:

my card is identified in ubuntu as DVB-T 210 (SAA7134)

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wagnerrp:

lack of digital audio means your output is messed up, or there is some decoding issue

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plotino:

TV audio also in analog

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wagnerrp:

lack of analog audio probably means youre using a framegrabber and havent set it up for capture properly

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plotino:

is not outputtting to my speakers

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plotino:

i have configured the audio as ALSA:default in the capture card settings

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plotino:

DVB-T works fine with kaffeine

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wagnerrp:

are other programs on your computer able to output audio?

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plotino:

what i would like is to watch analog tv with the same card with MythTV

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plotino:

yes with kaffeine i get the audio

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wagnerrp:

if audio in kaffeine works, try playing one of myth's recordings in kaffeine

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plotino:

but kaffeine is only for DVB-T and not for analog

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wagnerrp:

kaffeine will do both

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plotino:

u say to try to record TV with MYthTV and playback with kaffeine

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plotino:

both???

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wagnerrp:

you have already recorded something in mythtv

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plotino:

how to watch analog TV with kaffeine

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wagnerrp:

you said you played something and didnt get audio

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plotino:

i thought it is only for digital

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plotino:

i said the i watch analog TV with mythtv but i dont hear audio

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wagnerrp:

but digital recordings work?

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wagnerrp:

youre right, seems kaffeine only dies digital tuners

[22:19:11]

wagnerrp:

i thought it could do analog as well

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wagnerrp:

*does

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plotino:

i can try to record with mythtv and try playback with kaffeine

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wagnerrp:

you already have recorded

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wagnerrp:

you said there was no audio

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plotino:

it was realtime TV

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wagnerrp:

it was a recording

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wagnerrp:

mythtv does not do 'realtime tv'

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wagnerrp:

it does a recording played back at a few seconds lag

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wagnerrp:

however i doubt kaffeine will be able to play the nupplevideo files you get from a framegrabber

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wagnerrp:

so, were still back at the same point

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wagnerrp:

do you want to record TV? or just watch it?

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wagnerrp:

if you just want to watch it, you probably shouldnt use mythtv

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wagnerrp:

mythtv is intended for recording of tv for later viewing

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wagnerrp:

otherwise, you probably have audio capture for your analog framegrabber set up wrong

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wagnerrp:

perhaps your card doesnt actually do audio capture

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wagnerrp:

instead making you pass a patch cable into your sound card for capture

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plotino:

i want only to watch TV (with audio)

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SNIFFER_dog:

anyone having problems with the RadioTimes channel info?

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

RadioTimes?

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bjd:

SNIFFER_dog: nope?

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

What is RadioTimes?

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bjd:

www.radiotimes.co.uk

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GrahamIRC:

not that I've noticed Sniffer_Dog – what's your problem?

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GrahamIRC:

it's used for the UK EPG GWG

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Oh

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

Good to know

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GrahamIRC:

good to know if you're in the UK

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

I'm not

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

But I like to know what other people are up to

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GrahamIRC:

I am

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SNIFFER_dog:

when I use the grabber i get no info at all

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SNIFFER_dog:

unless ive set it up incorrectly

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SNIFFER_dog:

im sure it has been working

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bjd:

ubuntu?

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SNIFFER_dog:

yes

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SNIFFER_dog:

EIT seems to work ok

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bjd:

you don't get any errors?

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bjd:

i had issues with it about 4 months back but that was some perl dep issue

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bjd:

i take it you've just upgraded?

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SNIFFER_dog:

well im new to this had 10.04 a few weeks back and recently the kernel updated

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SNIFFER_dog:

not sure if that is when it broke

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bjd:

i wish people would just wait

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

For?

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bjd:

i went into the other room to turn my mythbox on to see what the issue i had was

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GadgetWisdomGuru:

oh

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bjd:

and it was related to Date:Manip which caused it to break

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justinh:

yeah I ended up using a nightly build of xmltv again because of that issue

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justinh:

sometimes I just don't think I'm cut out for packages of everything

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justinh:

that doesn't mean I'm about to go building everything from scratch though ;)

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bjd:

i think i just installed the debian backport

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bjd:

can't remember

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bjd:

doesn't matter since said user didn't stick around to find out :P

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GrahamIRC:

I've just noticed there's a new selection of Movie Metadata Grabbers – is any particular one recommended?

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justinh:

mixing package sources can result in 'fun', I found a while back

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GrahamIRC:

I've been having that sort of fun lately JustinH

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justinh:

oh crap. I think I'm starting to get a stye

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bjd:

poke your eye out

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GrahamIRC:

great for hopping over low fences

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justinh:

heh

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justinh:

right. it's officially bedtime

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GrahamIRC:

g'night

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e-squizo:

is there any info on how MythTV's video plugin finds and select .srt subtitles for videos? The functionality to handle multiple languages seems to be there, but I can't figure out how to get it to recognize them

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wagnerrp:

they must be the same exact name as the video, with the proper subtitle extension

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e-squizo:

wagnerrp: yes, I got subtitles to work like that so far.

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